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Daily Palace: Glasner's Goal Machines, Unc's Dodgy Knee and Boyfriends on Loan (With an Option to Buy)
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As they do everyday Wale, Joe, Alex and Dan are discussing the latest goings on at the mighty Palace
In this Episode: Joe and Dan discuss the Eagles attacking improvement, hypothesise about how they'd cope with a Marc Guehi injury lay-off, and try to guess the name of Wilfried Zaha's girlfriend.
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Transcript
Introduction and Match Excitement
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to Daily Palace podcast brought you by the Global Sports Podcast Network. I'm Joe Lodge. Based on a scroll through a group chat I was added to abruptly a few years ago, I'd say I'm the fourth most interesting person to have both A, that name, and B, Facebook.
00:00:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
With me today is the most interesting Dan Tanner. How are doing, Dan?
00:00:31
Dan Tanner
I'm doing all right. I've been grinning ear to ear since yesterday's results. So it's been a yeah just been in a really good mood, so which is not always a ah easy to do as a Palace fan. But when you get a result like that, definitely.
Crystal Palace vs Aston Villa: Post-Match Analysis
00:00:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, well, as you say, we're both still revelling in the the glory of Palaces 4-1 home victory over Aslan Villa. If you want to hear a ah full discussion of that, listen to the reaction pod that me and Wiley put out straight after the game where we were quite excitable.
00:01:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
um Today, we're going to analyse two talking points which sort of come out of that game. Firstly, how did Glatina build the best attack in English and world football?
00:01:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
And secondly, will Palace still have the best defence in English and world football if Uncle Mark has crocked his knee as looks possible towards the end of that game?
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
But starting with the first question, the positive question. ah The four goals Palace score against Villa mean they've now rustled the onion bag for nine Premier matches in a
Palace's Tactical Evolution
00:01:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
row. It's their second best scoring ah run in and in the Premier ever.
00:01:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Palace now have 35 for the season, putting them a comfortable 10 ahead of Mo Salah. For the first stretch of the campaign... goal scoring was Palace's big problem.
00:02:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
So basically, what I know, Dan, is what's changed?
00:02:06
Dan Tanner
Well, I think if you go and watch the highlights from like the beginning of the season, the first five or six games, whatever, that every almost every time we had the ball, we charged forward and then tried to take on ah two or three defenders, try and be a bit clever, or every now and again, Eze would just decide, I've gotten to the 30-yard area, I'm going to take a screamer and whiffs it completely or just gives it straight back.
00:02:35
Dan Tanner
Now it's sort of seized us the counter-attacking football that we've been doing fairly well throughout the season. We're even doing it well at the beginning of the season, just not really having a sort of end product to it all.
00:02:49
Dan Tanner
It's just now starting to come together. So the defensive midfielders are now doing their job. They're actually able to close down. They're able to defend in midfield and get the ball ah get the ball back into our possession. And then we've also been able to recycle it a lot better.
00:03:08
Dan Tanner
So instead of sort of like just huffing it down the pitch and hope somebody gets on the end of it, we're actually looking to play it out wide to Mitchell or Moniez or there's a little bit of interplay and things like that.
00:03:19
Dan Tanner
So it's, we're starting to work as a unit instead of just sort of individuals just running around like we've got sort of headless chickens essentially.
00:03:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:03:29
Dan Tanner
So yeah, it's kind of a bit of the To improve the attacking, we've improved the defending. So it's kind of gone part and parcel with each other.
00:03:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
that
00:03:40
Dan Tanner
So um we've also done a lot more shots, like high percentage shots so inside the box a lot more. It's not trying to do these worldies or anything. It's they're all well, a lot of them are head down, counterattacking football, where Mateta just came basically runs in a straight line and moves defenders out of the way, essentially.
00:04:03
Dan Tanner
and so I think they're kind of surprised how strong he actually is. ah sorry he's So he's just sort of barging through to a point, and then there's parts where Eze is actually holding the ball up and waiting for reinforcements instead of just trying to take them all on.
Team Cohesion and Strategy
00:04:20
Dan Tanner
So I think it's it's very much, I think, The turning point has been we're starting to act and play like a unit instead of just individuals.
00:04:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think ah think you are right there, Dan. It's a good point you raise about the start of the season. Because I suppose you were to break Palace's season down into three passes, maybe actually...
00:04:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
kind of attacking me quite good. I'd kind of forgotten that bit. i started off creating quite lot chances of scoring an okay number of goals, but being slightly kind of ropey defensively to really focusing on shoring out for defence and countering but the defence really being the priority and not many risks being taken to now...
00:05:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
feeling like maybe they've got a solid enough platform that they can take more risks the confidence to reincorporate some kind of pressing into the game which i think really came to for against villa and all of that stuff i think that's a quite good way of looking at it because my answer was going to be i don't really know it's just all kind of clicked and they've got more used to i guess the system and And all those things are true, but think you're right.
00:05:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
In terms of prioritization, it was, yeah, kind of started to see them thinking of themselves the attacking team. I had to readjust to be solid and pick up enough points to be kind of out of danger. And now you're reincorporating some of those, some more flair, some more risks, some more pressing and being both attackingly and defensively pretty competent.
00:06:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
How big a role do you think just individual form has in this? Mateta, you mentioned there, he has found the net nine times in that nine-game scoring run.
00:06:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
sort of Consider of doing that nine times, but don't think it can deal with that many booms in a row, all listeners is. But
00:06:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it him improving, Eze improving, and that's what's improved the whole attack? Or have Leigh improved because the whole unit's improved?
Set Piece Strategy and Player Roles
00:06:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Which kind of way around do think that is?
00:06:55
Dan Tanner
I'm probably leaning slightly more towards the unit um getting better and sort of galvanizing together just because as football is a team sport, I know how a lot of people don't quite realize that, that it is still a team sport. You are reliant on 11 other people on the team. so um So because as the beginning of season, i'll say like Eze would very quite happily or quite sort of try to take on the entire team himself.
00:07:25
Dan Tanner
And then he'd lose the possession or something like that. Um, and then they're back to square one. Now, as a sort of waiting for his teammates to catch up, you've got Hughes has suddenly become a real force of nature.
00:07:41
Dan Tanner
Got Will Hewton, uh, was, uh, what Wharton was doing it against, uh, Villa yesterday was sensational as well. So they're all starting to click.
00:07:54
Dan Tanner
So I think it's more the team has started to sort of gel together. And there is a bit more of a... They're kind of starting to trust each other now, I think, because most of the players were in the team last year. There's only a one or two that have been brought in.
00:08:11
Dan Tanner
But I just sort of think it's the system is now starting to work. um So and we've also suddenly become a lot harder team to play against. um definitely away from home, but home home for home form until it starts getting a little bit more like the 4-1 every week, which I don't see, because Palace getting 4-1 is very, very unusual in any any season, let alone this one.
00:08:39
Dan Tanner
But it's, yeah, it's just, I think it's just a team, that's they've actually come together as a unit. I think it's more the thing, if not not necessarily individuals, sort of,
00:08:50
Dan Tanner
form game because as one sort of helps the other kind of thing.
00:08:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I think you're right. I think is you really saw with the Villa game, that they all know kind of who's going to run where and when. They've developed that sort of telepathy.
00:09:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
They spring really quickly. There's no self-doubt or hesitation. That's often how well they're able to hit teams and in transition. and That's how you're going to get goals if you're a fairly low-possession team.
00:09:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
like Palace. And I also think, as you write your attention to, defence plays a role because they've reached a level now, what was it, four consecutive away clean sheets, just a general ah understanding a level of performance where you think the attackers are not worried about what's going on behind them.
00:09:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
They were at the start of the season, there is no need to so feel concerned about if you're one of the wingbacks, for instance, do I make this run? Do I try that pass?
00:10:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
What chaos will I unleash it doesn't come off? You feel like someone's covering The system makes sense and think that is probably what's allowed players like Mateta and Eze to play at their best more so than just them getting back to a sharper vein of form.
Mark Gahie's Injury Concerns and Adjustments
00:10:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Lastly, on the Palace's great arsenal of attacking weapons. How do you feel about them is as a set-piece team?
00:10:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, 15 goals that have come directly or indirectly from set-pieces puts them joint-top in the league and only behind Everton in terms of proportion of of their total goals. it that Palace were quite bad at set pieces last season, at scoring them.
00:10:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
so is it Is that a hot streak or a Palace now actually a properly well-drilled good set piece team?
00:11:01
Dan Tanner
I'm not sure I don't think it's a hot streak because they've got like teams now employ set piece coaches and ever since like the World Cup a couple of years ago where Southgate really sort of implemented set pieces and set piece design is now become a thing in the sort of the coaching and things like that. So I don't think it's a fluke, but us being one of the best ones um that I'm kind of surprised by because most most premiership teams can't take a corner to save their lives.
00:11:34
Dan Tanner
You see the the sheer amount of sort of missed corners or just awful sort like why just either way.
00:11:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
you
00:11:43
Dan Tanner
Um, but palace, palace doing it, i think is a real sort of caveat, really not. If you, if you've got something in the premiership that a lot of other teams kind of struggle with, and you can be used that as a weapon.
00:11:57
Dan Tanner
Yeah, let's take every advantage we can get. And if we're one of the best teams in the league so for set piece goals or something like that. Oh, I'm all for it. ah Just because for many, many years we have been, well, dreadful.
00:12:11
Dan Tanner
And I'm not just sort of, not just in the premise, just in general, we really haven't had many sort like great set piece takers. They will have like moments of brilliance, but then there was a sort of other Stop.
00:12:26
Dan Tanner
It's just sort of that vein of form disappears or they're sold off somewhere else. But yeah, if we're one of the best ones. Awesome. Absolutely brilliant.
00:12:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I think it's is's not a hot streak. It really speaks to Glasner's kind of ability but as a, if not a coach, because as you say, there are set piece specialists these days who deal with these kind of things.
00:12:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
His ability as kind of manager of the club and the system, that everything that he's sort of said is a priority for you usually see the season goes on.
00:13:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Palace really notably improving on it and the methods working. so I remember when Palace were struggling early doors, his big priority was...
00:13:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
about moving the ball quicker, getting it between the lines quicker and into final third faster. And ah that's exactly what Palace's attack is now defined by and worked really effectively. And likewise, he set stall out really early in the season and said, this is an area of growth, potentially improvement Palace. We can get a lot better at set pieces.
00:13:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
And i have done. And there are some obvious kind of tactical things you can point to to do with that. Not least, Mateta as one of the strongest people in the league, just pinning goalkeepers every time, sacrificing his own possibility. probably could notch kind of three or four more a season.
00:13:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
with his aerial prowess if he was getting on the end of corners but I think on balance you have to say it's paid off to just put the strongest man in the team on the keeper every game and I think alongside a load of players like Mark Gahie who've really honed their ability to get on the end of these corner routines players like shoes and as a commander when he's on, he's shown some inventiveness for set pieces and a good eye for ah smart delivery. and I think Palace can continue to to to bang them in from the set pieces and if you can do that, it's a real weapon when times get to happen and you're not playing well.
00:14:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah We'll have a quick pause now for a word from the sponsor before getting into that promised discussion about Uncle Mark Gahey.
00:15:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you.
00:15:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
So one slight concern amidst the celebrations of last night's result was Mark Gahey's fitness. He looked a bit uncomfortable with his knee at a couple of points in the match and appeared to be signalling that he'd actually like to be subbed off in stoppage time.
00:15:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
He wasn't subbed off. Glastner thinks he's probably OK on first assessment, he basically expects him to rest for a few days and then be back and available for selection for the Millwall game.
00:16:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
But playing Seagulls advocate ah seems a good time to have a think about How good has he been? How big an issue would it be for Palace if he was to be injured for a significant period of time?
00:16:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
So Dan, how good is Uncle Mark? How big an issue would it be if he was injured for a significant period of time?
00:16:33
Dan Tanner
Well, with our long list of injuries at the moment, I think it would be quite an issue, especially with essentially a defender, which we are running desperately low on defenders at the moment.
00:16:47
Dan Tanner
I think there's, what, two that are a long-term injury?
00:16:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank
00:16:51
Dan Tanner
ah So, yeah, unless we're going to sort of dive into the ah reserve team or the youth team. But there are, would say, a couple of options you could do in the theoretical that he's out for, say, a while.
00:17:06
Dan Tanner
um You could probably move Tyreek Mitchell into sort of that outside left, the left side of that three.
00:17:17
Dan Tanner
And I've moved LaCroix up sort of more into the middle of Richards on the right. I make Tyreek Mitchell this kind of wide centre-back. Sort of this position that's been developing over the last few years.
00:17:28
Dan Tanner
and put Chilwell out as a left wing back. I think we discussed this, I think when Chilwell sort first came on that this could be a theoretical sort of move.
00:17:40
Dan Tanner
You could probably also do bre do the same thing with um Munez because he can kind of play centre back, but I would really be reluctant to do that because he would take away that kind of attacking option that Munez can give you just because Nathaniel Klein isn't going to do the same thing.
00:17:59
Dan Tanner
He hasn't got the legs to do that anymore. But also saying that you can move him into the centre back as a sort of covering here and there. But when it comes to sort of the leadership, essentially the captain's armband, which he technically isn't the captain because it's Joe Ward who hasn't played a minute of football, who is strictly the captain, which I had to look up for that.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Prince of our hearts.
00:18:23
Dan Tanner
He's strictly the vice captain.
00:18:26
Dan Tanner
So for sort of leadership, um that's a little bit harder to do because at the moment you could probably make a case for Will Hughes taking the armband for a while, sort of with his form and and experience at the moment.
00:18:43
Dan Tanner
You could probably also give it to the likes of Mateta or Lacroix, who are these sort of great motivators in the team. They could probably take us sort of the armband for, a ah say, a few games at the very least.
00:18:56
Dan Tanner
um But that's why I was sort going on for like the day position wise and sort of leadership. It's going to be a bit of a balancing act, but with my football manager brain going, that is probably how I work it. If it's only for a short term, if it's longer, that can probably start to become an issue. Because as I've said at the beginning of this little ah bit, we are already fairly low when it comes to center backs in general.
00:19:24
Dan Tanner
So we really don't need any more injuries or, say, any long-term injuries. If they want to rest him for Millwall, I think we can do without him for Millwall, hopefully. He says confidently.
00:19:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
is ah Yeah, well, I think I've heard a lot through the crowd was on the telly that South London is indeed Crystal Palace's and I don't mean to worry too much, ah particularly with Roman Islay not occupying the right wing berth if Gahie's not there.
00:20:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think if it was me and I was manager Glaston, if I was Glaston and Gahie, so it was... injured i would run straight to physios check that chelsea riad was still injured then when they confirmed their plan i knew to be injured was injured i just sort of paced around furiously for an hour and then my option might be i think the same put mitchell back into
00:20:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
left centre back and put cheer while in the left wing back role because possibly if he can get to full fitness which i guess is also the caveat problem with that plan got potential to be in some ways better left wing back than Mitchell anyway.
00:20:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mitchell was really well suited to that outside back three role, I reckon. One-on-one defending, great. Tidy. The things that he is good at technically, short passing game, tidy on the ball, I think he'd do absolutely fine there.
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
I guess Lerm is an option as well. He's played there to reasonable effect a few times. ah What absolutely will not do is consonant a back four. I'm a complete Oli Glasner disciple now. I think back fours are a misguided 20th century indulgence, like plastic straws, and we need to do away with them.
00:21:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
We're now going to quick pause for a word from other
Quiz on Palace's Premier League Goal Scorers
00:21:39
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00:21:48
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So...
00:21:49
Dan Tanner
No, you haven't told me. So it's a surprise. This is going to interesting.
00:21:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:21:53
Dan Tanner
Whoa.
00:21:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:22:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, thanks to our wonderful left-footed finish against Aston Villa, Jean-Philippe Mateta has now been up second on Palace's all-time top Premier League goal scorers.
00:22:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
To celebrate that, I have concocted a quiz about some of Palace's other Premier League bagsmen. Dan, I'm just going to ask you three questions.
00:22:50
Dan Tanner
Thank you.
00:22:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's two and multiple choice. One of them isn't. If you get all three, you get to sign Andy Johnson's head.
00:23:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sharpie, Andy Johnson's head is going to come round, sign it. frame it possibly tattoo it we haven't cleared that with him but we'll see maybe the last one if you get a bang on he'll let you tattoo his head so are you ready to jump into
00:23:22
Dan Tanner
Let's rock and roll. I was expecting it to be a quiz if it was a keeping it secret. So one of Joe's famous quizzes. Here we go.
00:23:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
it okay so The man Mateta has just moved ahead of on the list is Christian Benteke, who did what's known in Palace circles as a reverse Mateta, scoring tons of goals in his first year at the club before failing to do almost anything for several years after that.
00:23:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Benteke is actually still playing in the MLS. What i want you to tell me, Dan, is for who? Is it Le Galaxy, B, Le FC,
00:24:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
C, the Sea United, D, the Buffalo Wings, or E, the New England Patriots?
00:24:10
Dan Tanner
Well, the last two aren't football teams. Well, one is i football team um um a
00:24:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Shall the Buffalo Wings aren't aside?
00:24:19
Dan Tanner
team. i'm pretty well um I think it's DC. I don't think he's playing for one of the LA teams. I think it's DC United.
00:24:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Final answer, DC United,
00:24:35
Dan Tanner
That's what I'm going to go for. Yeah, I'm going for DC. I don't think it's one of the l LA teams.
00:24:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
that is absolutely spot on. DC United is who Christian Benteke is playing for.
00:24:46
Dan Tanner
is
00:24:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
As another man on Palace's list who is playing on the MLS, Wilf Zaha recently declared that he doesn't care what people think after signing for a different MLS club.
00:25:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's good because when I heard he was joining an entity called Charlotte on Loan, I thought Love Island should reincorporate loans and options to buy midway through the season. um But what I want you to tell me, Dan, is simply what is his wife called?
00:25:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is it A, page banister, B, page stairs, C, page table, D, page skirting boards, that's double barrels, or E, page drafts, exclude those, so double barrels.
00:25:39
Dan Tanner
uh um i think it's probably b i think we go with b page yeah i think i'll go with that one
00:25:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Page stairs,
00:25:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm afraid it's actually Paige Bannister.
00:25:57
Dan Tanner
really fair enough i guess
00:25:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm sorry to say. i'm sorry to say. I don't mean to any relation to a four-minute mile, man.
00:26:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, Paige Bannister. Sad, sad. It's a shame. a shame. Andy Johnson was really looking forward to having his head scrolled on. ah But playing for Pride now, Dan. One last question.
00:26:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Simply fifth on the list. I've skipped Eze. I thought he's too current to actually kind of a question on. Fifth on the list is Luka Milivojevic. All I want to know about him, Dan, is what proportion ah his Prem goals were penalties?
00:26:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll give you 5% leeway either way on this one.
Closing Remarks
00:26:42
Dan Tanner
Oh, I would probably think it's fairly high because it's always seemed to be as either set pieces or penalties. I'm going to go fairly high on this, probably about 80%. Oh, how close
00:26:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'll tell you what, that spot on, Dan.
00:26:57
Dan Tanner
Oh, ah.
00:27:00
Dan Tanner
oh
00:27:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
79%.
00:27:02
Dan Tanner
ah
00:27:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
About as spot on as could have been, potentially, with his number of goals. ah Yeah, he scored 22 penalties, 28 goals in total.
00:27:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
for For a bonus, Mark, can you tell me how many penalties he scored in the 2018-19 season?
00:27:20
Dan Tanner
I have absolutely no idea. I don't know that one. I've got to be honest.
00:27:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nice round number.
00:27:27
Dan Tanner
ah What? No, I have no idea.
00:27:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's a nice round number.
00:27:34
Dan Tanner
ah go oh I'll go with 10 then.
00:27:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ten.
00:27:37
Dan Tanner
We'll go with 10.
00:27:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, sorry. but Ten is right. It's a bit a lag of that coming through, so I've dropped the ten in there.
00:27:43
Dan Tanner
have to say. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know which one will show up first on the actual recording, but ten is small. Ten. 10 penalty goals.
00:27:54
Dan Tanner
Ten pence.
00:27:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
That is really, yeah, really, really impressive stuff. um With that, I think it's time for us to end the episode with thoughts of having your wrists broken by a Luka Milivovic-Rasper as a late 2010 Premier League goalkeeper.
00:28:06
Dan Tanner
always a pleasure.
00:28:15
Dan Tanner
um
00:28:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much for joining me today, Dan.
00:28:19
Dan Tanner
but no worries it's always a pleasure
00:28:23
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