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E23: Hot for teacher
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In this week's episode, we lament about how hot it is and how we can't bare to forge anything. We also talk about our July 4th celebrations and what's been going on in our shops. Come join!
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Your hosts:
Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
IG: @tyrellknifeworks
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Jerid Sandoval of Echo Blades:
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Backgrounds
00:00:16
Speaker
Hello everybody out there in internet land. How are you doing? This is Dennis Terrell, Terrell Nifeworks, here for the Triple T for Knifemakers podcast with my co-host, Jared Sandoval of EchoBlades. Jared, how's it going? I am doing well. How about yourself, sir?
Challenges of Working in Extreme Heat
00:00:36
Speaker
I'm doing pretty good despite despite this crazy heat that we're going through. But yeah, I'm making the best of it. Yeah, this this is not fun. It has not been fun. It is hot. And I can just, let me just quell all of the comments coming right now. 111 is 111. Humidity, no humidity. Get the out here with all that. At least it's not, it was hotter than shit. And it sucked every every single minute. It was 111 in Brentwood.
00:01:15
Speaker
It was 111, 110, and then two days of 107, 106. Yeah, it's it's ridiculous. It's now 86, and it has been well into the high 90s, the past five days at this time in the evening. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, I'm over the mountain range, well, hills, small hills, whatever, depending where you're from, from Jared, and it's about five degrees cooler here. Yeah. And yeah, I think we hit 107 yesterday. Yeah. And that was our 111. Yeah. It is bullshit. It actually, I figured out that 107
00:02:05
Speaker
Mr. Cool can't keep up.
00:02:09
Speaker
um It was pretty cool. Actually, my mind is keeping up because it was 107. I was in the shop all day yesterday. Yeah, it was. It was the coolest room in the house. No, not even close on my side. Like it was old it was cooler. But yeah, but I mean, I wasn't I had a rough not a rough weekend, but I had a ah less than enthused week in the shop. So, um, I would turn it on mid day. It just, I couldn't catch up, you know, I'm, I'm pretty sure if you start in the morning and keep it cool and let it run, it would do okay. But yeah, somewhere around that a hundred over 105, 106, it just, it wasn't keeping up dude. It was not, it wasn't comfortable. I should say it was cooler, but yeah.
00:02:59
Speaker
Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, actually it's made me cancel a class coming up
Class Cancellations and Future Plans
00:03:05
Speaker
this week. Cause it's going to be, I'm supposed to have two classes this week. Um, well we're recording this Sunday. So Monday, Tuesday is one guy, uh, for a copper Damascus class. And then Wednesday, Thursday for a mosaic Damascus class. And that's like seven or eight for 12. So it's flake. forging all day, two days. And it's going to be 104 on Thursday. Is it really back there? I haven't, I haven't even checked again. I've been beat up by it. Yeah. I mean, it's so I had to, I had to postpone that class. I'm still going to do the copper Damascus class, but. Oh my God. You just made me. Boo. Yeah. I'll be back to 109.
00:04:00
Speaker
Fuck. It's only it's weird. It's only one day. But anyway, let's stop talking about the weather. It's making me depressed. It is making me depressed. It did depress me. And I just want to say that that I had, like I said, a ah less than productive time in the shop. I think it was, you know, excuses aside, right? I mean, no matter what you have going on, um some of us have a little extra challenges here and there. And I got stuck in it this week. It was a it wasn't a great one. But I only say that to share that with somebody else that may have similar type of feelings and just, you know, saying that it's all right. You get to sit in them. You get to be uncomfortable for a while and, you know, do some small um cognitive behavioral therapy and and move through. And like today, I. yeah I forced myself to get out there. And I was talking to to Brent
00:04:58
Speaker
about a build I have and I was talking about like etching um stainless because I believe you had maybe this is probably a good topic here. um So I believe a while ago you were trying to etch ABL and I think you reached out to him and kind of got his process and then you had some like mixed results, right? Like some of some knives had some weird takes to it and some came through and Yeah, I think that was mostly D carb.
00:05:30
Speaker
um
00:05:33
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, a BL is kind of finicky on the on the acid edge, like, you don't want it to to shiny because then it doesn't take. Yeah. So bead blasting seems to work well. Okay. That's actually when I got the sandblaster is when I did that. Hmm. Why did you try it and have next? I thought about it. Like I said, I did a bunch of nothing. And hold on one second. So I bought my son yeah a an electric guitar this weekend for his birthday.
Family and Personal Reflections
00:06:17
Speaker
Nice. And player he's starting to so I gave him one of my old older
00:06:24
Speaker
acoustic guitars, which is a nice Ibanez is, you know, like middle range, nothing crazy. But I told him, I was like, you play this first and then, you know, if you want to continue, we'll we'll talk about the other one. um And so he's been doing that for about four months off and on, but he's been really consistent. So I've been super proud of him playing. um So I surprised him this weekend. He turned 16 on Sunday. um And yeah, it blows my mind. i'll I'll go into that here in a second. But I don't see him that often. and i still like When I first met him, he was 12. I still think he's 12. But he was a small 12, dude. like he's He's finally doing the growing thing right now. like In the past, I would say, eight months or so, he's grown a lot. And he's turned into like a young man now. His voice is doing his thing. and
00:07:21
Speaker
Uh, but anyways, I bought him that damn, uh, went there surprised him. I was going back and forth on whether I want to go to like, to the guitar center or, you know, kind of support one of the smaller local business shops here. So I ended up getting them a, uh, a squire telecaster, uh, used one, but it had been upgraded with some new pickups and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it was about like 70 bucks more than like the entry level cheap ones. Um, but. I gave him my old amp. I gave him like all of my my guitar stuff because it's just been sitting there for years, right? So. um But right now, as we start to record, my whole ceiling above me is buzzing from the amp going. Which is why I'm kind of fading off and texting him to shut the. Right now, because I'm like, all I can hear is this the guitars. I don't think it's getting picked up on the mic. No, it's not, but it's driving me nuts. That's all I can hear.
00:08:21
Speaker
on pretty, pretty one track when it comes to stuff like that. Parker's like, I wasn't so sure my boys were gonna get into guitars. And they got guitars, it's probably five or six years ago. And now both of them like my older son plays bass, my younger son plays whatever regular guitar. yeah And each of them has like four or five guitars and they play all the time. Parker's got like six guitars. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, our whole family is super musical. We sang. My dad was a semi-professional musician. um like so I can't even sing in the shower. like I have zero musical sense. I still support it. I still support you trying.
00:09:17
Speaker
It's one of my favorite things is to watch people just get after it. No matter how shitty it sounds. I'm not the guy that if somebody sings, like I think it's really lame when somebody starts to sing and then somebody will hit him with a, Oh, you want to do a solo its solo. We can't hear you or not quit your day job or bah blah, blah, blah. That stuff drives me nuts. man Just get after it. Get after it. Pretend you're in the shower. Roll them windows down when you're in the car. Sing it full blast. Go.
00:09:44
Speaker
ah Yeah, I just let me hear something.
Cultural Celebrations in July
00:09:46
Speaker
Let's go. Canada. Oh, Canada. Yeah, yeah come on. Oh, Canada. not your Close. I don't even know this song. I can't even believe they have an anthem. I know the good what we don't deserve an anthem. No, I'm just you you do deserve an anthem. I just don't deserve to know it. It was Canada Day on Monday last week after we recorded. So very important day. Oh, wow. You didn't know July 1st was Canada Day. No, I mean,
00:10:21
Speaker
I did not. Thank you for letting me know though. And happy Canada Day to all of our Canadian listeners. All our Canadian listeners. Happy Canada Day. Yes. And then over here in the great US of A, we had our grand 4th of July here on Thursday. And it's now become preparation for for my son's birthday because he was he's on the 5th, right? 16 years ago, I guess. Yeah, we spent 4th of July in the hospital hoping He was just right on the cusp. He's like a couple hours past being a firecracker baby, but firecracker baby. Yeah, that's what we called him. Yeah, so. But would you do that for this year? I did absolutely zero. I ah stood at home. We did a did some barbecue and and some in in hell. um Made some hamburgers. I got a ah ah barbecue for Father's Day. Yeah, so
00:11:20
Speaker
um Cracked in, broke in the Weber, some hamburgers and hot dogs and stuff. And I had a low key. It was chill. It was good. And then on Friday, we, I took my son out golfing. And, uh, so we got out at like seven o'clock. Yeah. No, I told him, I was like, cause I looked all over the, like, like a week and a half before I was trying to find like a coastal course. Um, that shit was all booked. Everything was booked. Um, of course that's ah you got a, holiday day yeah you gotta be a little more ahead of that, but, um, out here, it was wide open. So I got an early tee time, went out there with him and his buddy. It was pretty cool. Cause his buddy, my son used to golf USGA kids golf. And we did like two seasons. I got to caddie him's like one of the coolest things I've ever, I got to do for him as, as his father was to carry his bag, um, and golf with them in that manner.
00:12:17
Speaker
And then ah he did it for about a couple of years and then decided he wanted to stick with his baseball. And then a buddy of his, when they were like eight or nine, wanted to start playing golf because Jared was. And then Jared quit. And now we play golf with this kid. And this dude's 16. He's a big kid. And he was driving it just as far as me. Every bit of 280, 300, like consistently a kid whooped my ass. 16. It was humbling.
00:12:48
Speaker
But we got out of there. It was a great time and I had a good time. Happy birthday, son. I love you. he had ah What a blast. He's a great kid, man. He deserves everything that he got. Oh, I did. like We got the wiener warrior, the Kalishnikov, glizzy autos. Yeah, boy.
00:13:13
Speaker
you want we got hot hog autos ah no Everybody knows that. Yeah, except you, because you're a nerd. At least you didn't say I'm old. Because I knew you, that's what you were thinking. No. I think you're a spry. really You're a good dude. But yeah. How come I keep getting older in Bobby's pictures every single day? Because ah Bobby is the man. And i you know what? I'm glad you said it. So he had to and I think it was a good idea. He switched over to a new account. Yeah. And um he's going to stop clapping with our personals and keep it on the podcast because they were looking like just a bunch of meme things. But I could imagine and I totally get it. And I think it's a great idea. But he had to he was reposting all of the old memes. man That is that is so fun. Like
00:14:06
Speaker
It is so fun to watch you age, you know, faster than any big thing on earth. and Oh, man. I love it. I love it. Yeah. It's the Benjamin butthole. Yeah. Don't worry. There's, there's plenty more coming. I got i had a whole thing cooked up here, buddy. This is going to be great. Ladies and gentlemen, please wait for the rapid aging of Dennis Terrell. All right. Well, yours is coming. Don't worry. Yeah, it's all good. I got it. I deserve it too. But you know what I found out was that ah Bobby is going to be at Makers Camp this year.
00:14:51
Speaker
Okay. I got to pause you here and just talk about, so if you guys don't know, we have show notes and Jared spells like a fourth grader. I do. And every time I read the notes, I have to decipher what the fuck he's trying to write. And you, you wrote what, where was it? Uh, makers count makers count and it's going to be hotter than Hattie's next week. Uh, what else did you write? Finished up the honestly cutter. Yeah, that's literally what it is. Oh, okay. Yeah. Uh, you make me laugh because you can't spell. It's funny to me. I can't spell.
00:15:38
Speaker
And I have a very, very, very bad learning, learning disability. And I really appreciate you putting me on the public blast right now and making yourself feel better for your good quality Canadian education and my dirty California public school stuff that didn't teach me, you know, I before he except after Z and all that good stuff. I hope you feel good about yourself. You're like, I hope you feel good about yourself. You're like Adam Sandler in 51st dates. Pain cakes. Yeah, that's exactly it. If it wasn't for auto correct and auto correct actually fucks me worse most of the time. So, uh, yeah, but yes, I get it. And I'm glad you get a nice, uh, I do. So he's going to be at maker's camp.
00:16:23
Speaker
But Bobby's going to be a makers count and I am so happy that we're finally going to get to meet the dude. Like I was bummed he didn't make it to a blade show. Um, but we're going to see him here in a couple of months. So I'm looking forward to that. If I don't get off my ass and book the hotel, uh, we will be sleeping in a tent at maker camp and I'm not doing that. So, uh, we got to figure that out. Yeah. Once you do that, where you're canceling all your classes next week. Just one. Hey, ooh.
00:16:59
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Well, back to July 4th, Kim's out of town. She went to visit her son in Virginia. OK. And won't be back till tomorrow night. so And she left Wednesday. Oh, wow. So yeah, I was. without plans. So I called up some friends who were going to be on the water. Um, uh, California Delta. one Oh, that's why you tell. Okay. I get it now. Yeah. No, I was driving to the Delta. Um, so, uh, went to Bethel Island. Um, methyl. It's methyl.
00:17:42
Speaker
Um, and uh, just went out boating and hung out and it was awesome. Uh, it was hot, but we were sitting in the water the whole whole time. Just, uh, you know what I found out, dude, you, you have a pool, right? Okay. So I don't have a pool. And, uh, we, when I bought the house, I made a conscious decision to not put one in because I don't plan on staying here that long. Right. And for the money would it cost to, to put one in, um, at the time, I didn't think I would ever see the value in, in it. I was completely wrong because like I would really have liked it, but in all seriousness, like I don't, I don't plan on being here for that long. So I didn't want to spend that money to, you know, put the pool in. Right. And my wife is bitched at me every single day for, you know, mixing that idea. And.
00:18:43
Speaker
But she tells me there is a website now where you can rent people, your neighbors pools by the hour, like an Airbnb. Who would want to do that? Apparently everyone because, or a lot of people, I should say, not everyone, but I mean, think about it. It's not a bad idea. You get, I mean, if you have a pool and then you're not getting any use out of it, right? you rent it by the hour for a certain amount of time. Do you have a barbecue? Like they they can get upwards of, you know, 50 bucks an hour to, you know, 150 depending on the place. But, um, and if you don't have a pool, you know, you go and check that out. But we were, I, I'm the same way as you. I was like, that is the most creepiest thing that I could think of. Like me getting my big ass out there and then somebody just walks out in their backyard and starts picking up dog shit or like where,
00:19:39
Speaker
It doesn't seem too private, right? But, um, we were looking at it and I was like, okay, fine. Let's all consider it. Right. And apparently I waited too long because all the spots in this one house got booked up. That's how in a matter of a couple hours, yeah I've never heard of this. You, you know, a guy that's 20 minutes away that has a pool that you can stream in anytime you want. I know, but it was, you know, 20 minutes away versus five minutes away. But gez yeah, it's, it's crazy. I was like, I, I don't know. I'm just curious. Has anybody ever heard of that? I think it's crazy that we're everybody's making. I love it. I love, I believe it. I love the passive income. That's like, you know, that's the key to to wealth is, you know, trying to, you know, making your money, make money. Right. And I think it's cool idea, but it's fucking creepy.
00:20:29
Speaker
It's interesting either my issue would be I'd want to go socialize with these people and they probably don't want that. Correct. Like I'd want to go swimming because I only get in the pool when there's people here. Like I never get like I'm almost never in the pool. I'll go in the hot tub and not the pool. I got you. Well, I actually went in this morning because it was hot as blazes after I got the grass.
00:20:54
Speaker
But yeah, that's I don't think I would do that. Either way, renting the pool or going to someone else's going to someone else's pool is even weirder. I think it's super weird. But anyways, back to the before my son started playing the guitar that I got him, and we got super sidetracked there. um I was talking about trying to etch EBO in my mind. Yeah, in my mind's eye. And um
00:21:23
Speaker
Yeah. So Brent was saying he was having some different or some troubles or struggling with a magnet cut and ended up going a different route. And, you know, so I couldn't remember what you did to make it successful. So anyways, it just thinking about it made me move on. So I just grabbed an old fucking cutout, a cut off of a sand my billet that I had shaped into a I'll butcher it here for you. A nest muck. Is that? the name of the style. Just the way the the cut off was kind of lended it to that shape. um It's got a really pokey like pickaxe will like pickaxe handle. It's gross. um But I found some ah old cut off from some scales that I had made that fit it perfect. Like I mean, they're fucking thin, dude. theyre It's like a half inch. The the handle is like a half inch tall. It's crazy. This was he did this was stockable brand.
00:22:23
Speaker
What? You stock removal that you didn't like. You know, yeah, it was an old samurai bill. Yeah. So I just I cut the whatever knife that I don't even remember now, but that whatever was left kind of lended it to that. I was going to try to do it like a cured ashy or something like that, but I decided we'll try something different. So I did grind that, though. That was the only thing I did this weekend, um which is a bummer because that was four days, but it was it was super hot. Um, and coming off of, uh, in the beginning of the week, uh, cause last week was the first week that I got finally time to get back into the shop and it didn't finish up this, um, the honestly cutter. So it's called the honestly cutter because I, my buddy that, um, bought the knife. He says, honestly, honestly, like every second, every time he's telling the story, he he wants to tell you like, honestly, I think, you you know, about when I'm like,
00:23:22
Speaker
Dude. So I called it the honestly cutter because everything is something and then cutter kiss. So that, that was legit. Other than that, I'm your pinpoint on the can't spell. But, um, so what happened was that I had, um, I had, uh, some knives from a blade show and I sold, uh, the intrepid, the, the stone washed, um, my Carta. O.D. Green. I took those to work and somebody bought that, um which I was pretty stoked about. And then I finished up that knife and then I had one of the the pear cutters left over with the ah ah copper, poxy copper handles, copper pins and stuff. It was really nice. I was my favorite one at all of them that went. So he bought that and he and and and his chef knife and
00:24:20
Speaker
we arranged for me to go ahead and meet up with him. And ah so the first time I ever did a, it's not the first time, but it was a the coolest time. Uh, we met up at the Wendy's down the street from your house at the parking lot there. Um, and it was kind of, I always laugh when I'm, you know, holding knives and showing knives on the back of the back of his tailgate in the middle of a parking lot in California. Right. We get a lot of weird books. but I was super nervous. Right. So Dennis, like, I don't have that much experience with actually, you know, with that process. Right. So you mean the sales process? the Well, like the, the, the, yeah. So I've sold, I've sold a few
Selling High-End Knives: A Personal Story
00:25:02
Speaker
knives. Right. And, but this,
00:25:05
Speaker
like hand delivering and like, you know, seeing somebody, but I think what happened was that I was this really, really new. I know him. Yeah. Yeah. I know him, but still it's, it was probably his most, most expensive knife I've ever sold. Um, and I had been working on it for, I've had all this stuff for a long time. Like there's a lot of people that are like, Jared, make me a knife, Jared, make, I'm like, guys, just hold on, hold on, hold on. Right. Like, so this knife a year ago would have been an entirely different knife. Right. So, uh, and, And I was just like, tell him, just like, hold on there. Things are getting better. I'm learning a lot more. You know, it's going it's all going to pay off in the end. And so I'm driving there and like I started getting anxiety and like, you know, like my stomach started getting, you know, I i was tense enough. I was like, dude, he's going to hate it. Like I know he's going to fucking hate it. And I'm like about to, you know, ask for a certain amount of money. And I'm like, Oh my God. So, but that's my,
00:26:00
Speaker
That's me. You know, that's I've participated definitely overthinking it. I've seen knives knives. Yeah. So I guess thank you. But so ah meet up with him. And I we go. Like I said, he pulls him out on the on the tailgate and he looks at it and I lived is so cool. Dennis, it was probably one of the coolest things that has happened from making was like I could see his kind of like ah trepidation or like, you know, like, am I really going to get a pile of shit here and have to pay my buddy because you know, we we did this, he put all his work in. But I watched his face go from like, like, you know, kind of serious as he took it out and they look at it and he's just lit up. He was just like, I could tell he was happy with it. Like he was very pleased. And, uh, you know, then the the compliments start coming, you know, like, Oh my God, the pictures don't do it justice and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you know, like, I was such a good feeling, man. And I want more of that. Like he just,
00:26:58
Speaker
It really sparked like some, some things, which is like emotions and drive, right. To, to continue to, to be better. Right. Cause every knife that I make, I personally pick apart. Right. I think a lot of us do that. Right. I know a lot of us do that. Right. But like, and I'm serious when I say like, I really, really struggle with, um, you know, finishing things because I always wanted them to be better, but, um,
00:27:25
Speaker
That was really validating and it was super cool. Um, congrats. Thanks. But, so I sold three knives last week. That's awesome. Hey, I sold three knives over the weekend. That's cool. They come in threes. They come in threes. And I got a bunch of new, I got some more orders and stuff too. Now, if I can just not be depressed and living. And this is supposed to be the slow month. This is so far July has been a really good month for me. It's been my best month ever.
00:27:59
Speaker
Easy to do, but yeah, there's lots more to more time here, so. Yeah, that was cool, though, but that that I was super pleased with that that low layer um Damascus 11 layers, 15 and 20, 10, 80, 10, 84. The Koa handle came out fucking beautiful from from Hi Koa Jared over at Hi Koa. Um, I was, I was super pleased. So that's awesome. It was good. I was getting after it over the last four days. Uh, I took July 4th off, but Friday, Saturday, Sunday, man, I've been just a working machine. Um, like just knives, getting this knife done, uh, not done, but furthering.
00:28:52
Speaker
getting the video in the can because I thought I was going to have classes all week getting the video in the can for this coming triple T on Thursday we'll talk about last week's triple T which I really loved so did a lot of work on that knife I just Parker just left and we just finished a batch of of sharpening attachments, so those are back in stock. um Clean the shop, the shop is finally back to normal, like not boxes of crap and parts everywhere. So yeah, that was, I even made progress. Remember that basket weave we were gonna do, the basket split. I got that to a point where I cut up, i
00:29:46
Speaker
ground that thing clean stacked it up. Tig did yours your side and mine. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be one we'll split it nice and then we'll make two slices after we cool. But if weather would have cooperated, I think I would afford welded that thing together and then split it but it's too hot for that kind of thing right now. So yeah. So yeah, I mean, it was, I felt like I was super productive over the last three days. And then of course, since I get Damascus classes coming up.
00:30:20
Speaker
I like to grind all the steel clean, so it's already, I don't want to spend the first hour when someone's here yeah grinding mill scales. So I got all that done, cut up. um So yeah, it's been and awesome. Sold two of the um sand tigers from the ones I had a blade. Sold the ABL chef knife.
00:30:49
Speaker
two mag chucks this weekend i had to make yeah it's been crazy but productive so been happy about it oh tale of two tales there buddy tale of two tales yeah so um yeah it's been good trying to you know like when when my wife's around you know like you feel guilty about being in the shop all the time but since she's not here I'm just using this time to work my ass off. It's well spent. Yeah, it's well spent. Yeah, and I had the opposite. I suppose wouldn't we we had a lot of ah a family time. Well, that's good. Chill time. So it was cool. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't bad, but I just couldn't couldn get out there, so didn't want to, apparently. Yeah. But, you know, I would do um ah kind of...
00:31:40
Speaker
do something that I really hate to do. It's probably my least favorite thing on the, it's, it's ranking up there, you know, it's really, really high up there with like my least favorite things to do. But, you know, um, I say, you know, a lot too. I figured that out, but, uh, You did a fucking bang up job. Fantastic. Last week with our newest sponsor to the show, Koi at Baker Forged and Tool. If you're looking for some, yeah, some premium steel pattern welded. um I think they just dropped some Riptide in ladder last couple of days ago.
00:32:28
Speaker
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00:33:14
Speaker
Um, and eventually we'll get there, but you know, our, our, our lane is not really a guest, um, orientated. So, uh, yeah, we'll work them in when, when we can. And, um, and there'll there'll be plenty of them, but, you know, it's not, uh, not the main focus, but when I was talking with koi, cause he was like, you know, hey I'm just waiting for, you know, And I was like, you know, yeah, because listening to you to Damascus nerve, it's going to be interesting to a lot of people. Right. And, uh, you did a great job though. Like I was, that was good to see you two guys, uh, or hear you guys go back and forth. And I think it was a great episode. I cannot believe it was that long.
00:33:56
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Yeah, that was, that was, it flew by and I had, I had questions I didn't even ask, so we'll have to save that for next time. But for sure it it's fascinating, like the whole, like as, you know, Brent and Ryan, you know, and, you know, those guys talk about like production knives. Production Damascus and interests me as much as like doing the batch work that interest Brent. Like that's, to me, that's... That's crazy interesting. And like, yeah, that's your jam lines and multiple lines set up in the shop and what machines do what and how we optimizes all amazing stuff. So yeah, if you haven't watched last week's episode and and you're interested in Damascus, go listen to about coin here, hear what koi does at Baker Forge.
00:34:50
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to optimize and how you know just the decisions they make about what machines to put out and and how to use them is it's fascinating to me. Yeah. And he yeah, on the production scale, like it's right for for a for a guy like me that you know I've had the opportunity to forge quite a bit of quite a few billets with you and learn and and and ah but you know a one-on-one type of ah environment, but it's still it's one billet, you know, these guys are cranking out, you know, hundreds and hundreds. And I saw a really cool reel of him forging on the power hand or with the sun. dude That was super cool. I don't know if you caught that one. I did. I did. That was. all Yeah. But, you know, in addition to all of that, they also have the. ah
00:35:45
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um The Gator piss etchant, which came out with probably my favorite, my favorite meme of all time. It is a little weird though with all the, with the udders that you, you kind of fucking made it weird with this uttered Gator, but yeah. Uh, that's when I was down there had to be a, i had to be a Gator with an otter. Yeah. And AI freaked out about it a little bit, but it came out cool, man. I think it was, it was super cool, but you know, also Baker forges and tool gets you Gator piss their discount code TTT 10.
00:36:23
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Lots of TTS. yeah Get it? you're good Yeah, that's good. All right. That's good.
00:36:35
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So yeah, good stuff. and And fuck off. Yeah, you did a great job. That's the as the whole point of it. You did a fantastic job. Which is ironic that, you know, it's not ironic, but I think it's weird because I think I've made a conscious choice here um for the next couple months to strictly stay with mono steel. probably stainless, maybe CR, ADCR V2. I have some, some steel with that that I want to get through, but definitely I think that's kind of the avenue that I'm going to go here to kind of hone in. um And plus two, you know, like,
00:37:15
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trying to make things that I think are movable for myself. um But ah in a blade show in Florida, talking with a bunch of people, and I'm not saying anybody does this, but I know that it's a possibility for me is my drive to learn more about, you know, making a quality tool for the kitchen um has led me to um know that there's there's lots more to do need a lot more reps, right? And um but I'm also thinking about a price point to put them, you know, these into people's kitchens and hands, you know, um kind of lends more to a mono steel stainless type of thing for myself for echo blades. And that's kind of what I like leaned on because, you know,
00:38:03
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Like I said, people can hide behind Damascus pattern. I think, you know, you can make cover a lot of things up, right? I'm not that I'm saying anybody does, but for me, I don't want to do that. I want to. I just wanna keep it low um you know and I don't wanna fuck up a nice expensive you know piece of my own or Baker, Forge and Tool or you know any kind of Damascus. um So that's kind of the the route that I'm consciously making as my my next goal is to just kind of stick in this realm um for reps and for chops and to you know see if I can get and would get more pieces out there for feedback.
00:38:41
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And when you're talking kitchen cutlery, yeah, there's a lot more to it than I'm going to put a swedge on and I'm going to make a nice profile. I mean, yes, you know, the whole edge geometry and cutting. Yes. And all that stuff's way more important than it is way more important than is it fancy Damascus or not? Yeah. um And honestly, I don't I'll I'll do once in a while. I'll do Damascus kitchen cutlery, but um it's I've said this many times to you. I mean, I've probably said it on this show. It's high priced, and unless you really have a market of professional chefs or just people with a lot of money, those are hard to move. Yeah. like
00:39:26
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Um, whereas like I much prefer making a BL kitchen, cutlery or stainless, whatever stainless you want to use stainless kitchen, cutlery. I think, you know, the average chef, the the average home cook, I should say, um, we'll take care of that better. Yeah. There's less maintenance involved. Right. And I. That's just what I'm pushing right now. That's that's my pitch. That's my cell. That's what I want to do. yeah um And I think it's like I said, it's a conscious choice and I think it's.
00:39:58
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It's ah it suits me right now with where I'm at and my making journey is to you know, I love Damascus. I love making it. I love using it. I love etching it. I love ah there's nothing wrong, right? It's it's a beautiful ah but I'm gonna I'm gonna stay in this lane for a while and let all these other cats get after it with their their cool stuff. Yeah, I mean, speaking of kitchen cutlery, I'm probably I was thinking of I was thinking the other day that so the one pattern that I do the k-tip gilt. Oh, it's it's a pretty big knife. Like I think it's all I think it's about a nine inch blade, which is really big for most people. I like really, I like big knives. But I know many people don't. So I'm probably gonna
00:40:49
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get some water jet blanks cut of that pattern, but in seven inch or maybe even a sand toku. Yeah. So I have a Santuco style myself, but, uh, and I don't know what this other one is. I've heard on sake of her Kyoto. It's kind of like a hybrid thing. Um, but nevertheless, I'm about, you're not going to pronounce it or spell it right anyway. So it's, yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. I'll have to really, really, really. Another language. Get out of here, man. That's too much. But all of them have been around a little over seven, seven and a quarter, seven and a half, I think is the longest. That's kind of been the wheelhouse. But I used the the knife that I made Lynn a year and a half ago, a year or something like that, which is ah just maybe six. And um I ah
00:41:42
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It performed well. I was very happy with it. i it It was a small. It was definitely not as tall as I wanted. That's one thing that I learned from my first couple knives was that heel height is and is important um and can really affect the performance. And that's been the the feedback that I've got from a handful of the the knives that I put out. so But ah overall, the thing kicked ass. So I think a petty style, you know, six inch or whatever that is is, is a good option. Right. Yeah, that's that's where I was going. So I haven't made the the full. Full size chef yet myself, but.
00:42:25
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Yeah, I'm toying in with, I gotta put an order in to get some blanks cut, so I might add that to them. And putting in orders just reminded me of the massive order I just put in at my favorite knife making shop, Maritime Knife Supply.
Knife Supply Orders and Material Insights
00:42:45
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Yes. Yeah, so for all of your, I'll tell you what I just ordered. I get everything at maritime. I ordered 40 feet of steel. No, forty no, sorry, 44 feet of steel. I ordered some G10 liners. I ordered some pins. I ordered some G10 Damascus, which I had seen other people make. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to get me some of those.
00:43:16
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Awesome deal on those. um So I got some of those. What else did I get? Geez, I got so much. Oh, I got some some belts. The old buy 10 get one free. So I got myself some belts, some VSM ceramics. Nice. Geez, I got like three or four other things like I spent $700. Nice. Um, see, I haven't put an order in in a while, so I figured I better get after it. I am. I am due myself. I am due myself. Yeah. I'm just realizing it. Everyone out there, when you need stuff for knife making, go check out maritime knife supply. They have it all. They have stuff you haven't even thought of yet. That's true. And Lawrence is a pretty cool dude.
00:44:07
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And not to mention, stuff that you don't know is there is that our awesome sponsor Two Bastards Hammers um now has an exclusive Two Bastards hammer Only available at Maritime Knife Supply called the Vaquero. Go check it out. It's got a new finish. It's a definitely probably a little fatter peen than, you know, the average fat peen. So, you know, if you want to get your hand on that to fat peen, go check out Maritime for a two bastards exclusive.
00:44:49
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That's what I care about. That's what I care about. Cowboy dude, come on. Is that what it is? Sure. Are you just, I do know, are you just, I'm, I'm testing your, uh, your background here. Come on, dude. I'm the worst Mexican in the history of the world. Trust me. Trust you on which part that you're the worst. Trust me. Yeah. Go ahead. Do your Google translation, bro. All right, so it's the cowboy hammer. Sure, maybe. Do you believe you or not? I'm curious. No, i no i now i'm it's it's subtly coming back to me that that's what it means. so Okay, all right.
00:45:37
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and its oh yeah What I could use this this after this weekend, I'm looking at my hands and they're all cut up, they're all mangled. I need me some of this. Pelican paste hand salve. I've got to get some of that and you guys should too for Making those work hands soft. Of course, they all they have ah Hard wax soft wax pelican oil get it all at pelican paste dot com discount code triple t 10 that's lots of teas tts and 10 triple t 10 pelican paste get some and
00:46:17
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for all your premium knife wax needs pelican paste.com and they discount code will smell like an orange. You will smell like an orange, a really good Florida to orange. What's wrong with that? Nothing. I used the shit out of it on my, uh, on the honestly cutter. and I need to do an order myself. I think I'm gonna do the, oh, I am gonna do the ah the little tins to include with all the knives. That's gonna happen, so. You gotta tell that story about the tin from ah Blade Show. Okay, Travis, mystery solved, and him and I both figured it out, I think, because there was only one option it could be. so
00:47:05
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While we were at Blade Show, our our beautiful sponsor Travis Haynes comes up, hands Dennis and I to samples of the ah hard wax and the soft wax, one of each. Put it on the table in the bag. This is now what, three weeks later, I finish up a knife and I go grab the old soft wax because I wanted to try that out. And I open it up and there's a giant finger dip in there, like someone bullet, hold my soft wax. And I said, tend to send Travis a, a text message. And I was like, are you fucking with me, dude? Am I mad? Am I not doing my job or like, what what's going on? and And he's like, what the hell? You know, like he's like, how, that's not possible. Like, how could that happen? And then, uh, I was like, I don't know, dude. Like, and then I thought about it and I was like,
00:48:01
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Dennis, did you, did you use some of this wax while we were out there and I got your tin? And yeah, he put his grubby ass Canadian hand all in my orange soft wax. So you owe me- I like it every other time I do it. Yeah, but now my- fucking I need the hard wax. And I didn't even remember that I had used it. And then you asked me and I said no. And then I sat there and I thought, wait a second, I did use I did coat some blade, because you know, everyone has their grubby hands and blade show. And, and I, oh, that's remember, I had
00:48:37
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I usually carry a little bottle. You broke that. yeah And it broke and smashed all over the floor behind our table. We were slip sliding away for a couple hours. um And yeah, so that's what I use some of that wax instead, the soft wax too. Yeah, well, I got I got your 10. Thanks. You're welcome. Thank you. Hey, and then on top of all of that, I had, um you know, the folks over at ah brunt Boots were gracious enough to ah send me another pair of ah Boots that um so I bought the the Marins um both the ah the stock one and then I liked those so much and I thought the the black
00:49:29
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um Color that they had was pretty cool. So I have about both of those and then they sold didn't sell me they um reached out to me we talked and um They sent me over a pair of the Bulldogs The slip-on type ones because I love the Marins, but um I've been really wanting a slip-on boot because it's just easier, you know ah But I do like to like the Chelsea style um the lower top ones And um when i we talked in Maker's Camp, that's what I had recommended. And so they came out with one, and it's called the Omen. And um they sent me one and I tried them out today, man. Oh my God, they are the business.
00:50:13
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So i that's what I wear when I'm in the shop as a but is a Brunt boot. And if you're interested in in giving them a try, you can try the the discount code ECHOBLADE10 for $10 off your first purchase of $60 or more. And these boots are already at a steal. So if you're looking to try them, go try that out and use the the discount code ECHOBLADE10. Yeah, and I'm going to I'm going to back this one up and we we should have talked about them a long time ago. I agree. I have I also wear Brunt boots in the shop. I have a pair of the steel toad. And at first one, I don't know why I got steel toad. It's not like I really needed them, but now I love them. And I I think the best
00:51:04
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um success story whatever you want to call it on Brunt Boots is a Maker Camp last year. I agree. We are sitting with water and I'm not exaggerating four or five inches deep. My feet did not get wet the entire weekend and my over at the top of my boots over the laces and not a stitch of water inside of the boots. And I still wear them every day. So love those boots. So get yourself some front boots. I really like them. Yeah. And, uh, I kind of have mine loosely lace. So I know they're kind of slip ons, but they drive me nuts the way you have those on, but you get them, you know, in and out quick. So i I try not to bust your balls about it, but it is an interesting setup. I just want you guys to know I'm all about the lazy when it comes yeah like in and out of the boots.
00:51:57
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Oh man, those omens, they're, they're fuck it, man. I'm, I'm a big fan. And I, like I said, I love my Marins and they kept me nice and dry at maker's camp. And we were Flint napping in a foot of water. It felt like, it well, that's what we noticed it and we're looking down and we can't see our feet because the water was up to our ankles. Yeah. I got some video footage to to back that up too. So, but yeah. Um, if you are interested in looking for some, go give them a try and use that code echo blades 10.
00:52:34
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Well, I'm going to talk about the Triple T video from last week because I was thrilled to have a guest on the video. Who do you have? So the the Triple T before that, I had done I'm doing this, I'm doing redoing the intermediate series and I decided to do a differential heat treat on this ooey knife. Obviously, it's hidden tang. Well, I figured, oh. Because last time I did the intermediate series, I did it with Damascus. This time, I figured I would do a differential heat treatment. So the first time, of course, I put clay on, heat treated it, and it cracked. That's not you know not necessarily a problem. you know Blades just crack in differential heat treats, like you are trying to stress the blade. It's just not good for the blade.
00:53:26
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um So I needed to redo the blade, get it to the point where you know to make up the video to make up for where I was in the video. so And then I thought, well, instead of just doing that same thing again, let's call an expert. So I gave Trey Hill a call from Third Hill Customs, who happens to be my Maker Spotlight this week. ah So if you don't know Trey, you should. And I want to tell this story, and I said it in the video, where I met Trey last year at Maker Camp.
00:54:06
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and I'm doing, you know, strolling, not, I'm not looking at every table, I'm just kind of strolling down one of the aisles, one of the rows, and out of the corner where I see this rack of knives, and they're all differential heat treated, they have these incredible, some of the best hormones I've ever seen. And I did the wah wah back up two steps. I'm looking at him. I'm looking at him. and I'm looking at the blades. I'm like, holy crap. And so it was just funny. And that's and then I got to talking to him and he had watched my videos and we were and I was like, damn, like these are some of the best.
00:54:50
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of hormones I've ever seen, like really, really awesome. So I reached out to Trey to, hey, and I talked to him at this maker camp, just passed, quizzed him a bit about his, sorry, blade show, thank you. um We were talking about maker camp, it was confusing me. About his process and he's like, yeah, man, anytime you wanna go through it. And I said, hey, maybe I'll get you on on a um triple T and we'll talk about it. so most of the video was Trey just doing a brain dump of how he does his differential heat treats from the the um hormone clay that he uses which is a game changer first of all um i switched to that clay and
00:55:41
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So that is the immediate improvement.
Differential Heat Treating Techniques
00:55:45
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I'll talk about that in a second. And just like his prepping of the steel, how he eat actually does the quench, like physically does the quench, um like an interrupted quench. So good goes in the oil for like three or four seconds and then comes out of the oil, almost to the point where it flashes, but then back in the oil. So just some interesting process. So I followed that to a T, And I definitely got the best hormone that I've ever done on this blade. To a triple T. That would have been good. um And so I'm excited to finish this thing this thing out and see. I think I'm even going to get like the wispy, ashy
00:56:30
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kind of parts of the hormone that I've never really gotten on a hormone before. Maybe a tiny bit in a couple of places, but so far it looks really, really good. And just, I mean, and fact in fact, Trey and I did this twice because we recorded And then, because we're doing this on Google Meet, and then I'm trying to record it with QuickTime. And so the first time we did this whole hour and a half, and it was only getting my audio and not his, so that I had to call my birthday. Oh, ah bought a bummer. Hey, could can we do this again? And so he was kind enough to like the next day completely redo it again for me.
00:57:14
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Oh, yeah, he's a good dude. That's that's a solid right there. That sucks. But it was on the process is amazing that he goes through and just the fact that he polishes the blade up to 30,000 grit. Before he etches. Well, what? Yeah. 30,000. Wow. And just the way he's got a really unique process of doing this, and he can get it, he can get a blade up to 30k in about an hour. Wow. It's incredible. And the way he does it is is awesome. He uses like one of those reciprocating tools. Yeah.
00:58:04
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It's like a finishing tool. like yeah You know what I mean? It uses one of those with a sanding stone, stone yeah CA glued to it. Nice. Yeah. So what really cool. I don't think I'm going to be going to 30K because I don't want that shiny look on mine because it's a buoy, but I'll see what I do. But um the clay, um the guys from NewClair, NewClair Systems, gave me um some of the, just coincidentally, stop by and give me some of their hormone clay and some anti-scale, which I haven't used yet. And then I'm talking to Trey and he goes, oh yeah, and I use this. And he picks up the, the hormone 1800. I'm like, oh, I have some of that. um So I was excited because I already had it. And that stuff goes on, like you can,
00:59:02
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Basically, I put it in per tray, I put it in like a squirt bottle, like one of those star bond squirt bottles. And you can draw with it. It's like so much easier. Oh, that's cool. No more templates. I just draw layout lines and just do what it works perfect. awesome And that clay is like you have to scrape it off with a scraper. Like it does not come off. Like you have to like, it's like you're taking, so it's like you're grinding away soapstone almost. Like it's really, really hard and it sticks to the blade.
00:59:37
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which I think is it's insulating process properties. So yeah, anyway, I'm thrilled with how that knife is is turning out. I'm excited to get it finished. So if you haven't yeah haven't watched um now last week's Triple T with with Trey Hill, definitely go check it out. um He's got some wisdom to bestow when it comes to hormones. So go check it out. Yeah, that's awesome, dude. Oh, good. I was going to say in this coming week, I get up to we do the guard and like fit the guard and then fit the handle block and square up the handle block, which is quite a bit of work to to do that step. It's usually the the parts that people have the most issues with. So we'll talk more about that next week. Nice. Yeah, I just wanted to say that I remember
01:00:36
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The couple years ago, when you came back to the table, and you were like, Jared, I just saw the most badass hormones on a that I've seen in a long time, you got to go check out. um
01:00:55
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And so I went over there and I checked to Trey stuff out and I was just like, and to be honest with you, I hadn't really seen that much and wasn't, I didn't know enough to be overly well, um you know, like over wowed, but I was like, Oh, well, if Dennis said, this is a business. This is the business. And then after seeing that you go back and start looking at other stuff and you're like, yeah, that's not the same. That stuff special. So yeah, Trey's the man. And, uh, that's some amazing, amazing stuff. And, and one of the things that I really took away from that video and talking to him is. and First of all, his success rate, or let's talk failure rate, failure rate's about 20 to 30%. So in 10 knives, two or two or three are gonna fail. Just crack. just you know you're you're if you're not If you're not failing a little bit when you're doing differential heat treats, you're not gonna get a lot of action. like You wanna dance on that edge. right But he said the other part is, out of the seven knives that are left,
01:01:54
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he might be happy with three of them. Like, you know, a couple like might be okay. But the ones that he's really gonna polish out to 30K, you know, so he's he really like what he considers top quality knives is like 30 or 40% of the knives that he actually heat treat, which is like wow crazy. That's a lot. but I think it's a good point to, you know, to, to make sure that you highlight the fact that, you know, there is a and not a hundred percent success rate with, with that style of, you know, heat treating and, you know, some, uh, failures to be expected and okay. Yeah. I mean, and obviously you you get that caliber of work.
01:02:41
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You're you know, you're a perfectionist and you want the best and he he he definitely strives for that. So yeah, go check them out. Maybe I will too. I did not watch the video. I feel like that folks. Jared did not watch the video. I did not do my job. But now I have something to look forward to. So fuck off.
01:03:07
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not Not me in the regular videos, but when I skip right over those, dude, who you got this week. I have a maker by the name of rust and timber. That's rust dot and dot timber. Um, and she's from Alberta, Canada. And I don't know. I think she followed me or so I don't know, but I came across it and, uh, I think her her name is Tara, I believe. Um, and I saw a video of her just kind of like talking about her,
01:03:41
Speaker
what she does and she uses a lot of reclaim um repurpose steels and you know old tools and crap like that but makes some new stuff and I started checking her stuff out and I just think it's super interesting um and I'm I like what she does and I thought it would be cool to um give her a shout out and she's got Um, 1,102 followers. Um, and I just thought it would be cool to, uh, get her, um, you know, our other four listeners out there to make sure they go check her out. Um, and you know, a female maker is, uh, is cool cause there, um, there's more and more, um, you know, I'm becoming aware of too, but.
01:04:26
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um I just think it's really cool and i'm I'm digging what she's doing. So make sure you go Check it out at what did I say? Rust dot and dot timber on Instagram and threads apparently nice ah to Check it out rain. It's not loading for me right now for some reason. Oh I don't know Instagram is having an issue I see it now Yeah, some nice work. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, and another Canadian. I don't get it. It's not on purpose. I tell you that the Canadian invasion in use. Yeah. So anyways, yeah, that's, ah that's mine. Make sure you go check those out. And obviously go check trail. What is his?
01:05:18
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third healthther Third hill. So three the the number three, third hill customs. no No dots, nothing. Third hill customs. Nice. Go check out trade. Cool.
01:05:35
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So a couple of things I want to mention. um First off, I'm really sad that, number one, I ended up selling the foosball table before I got to kick Jared's ass at foosball. So we will have to put that on hold until we happen to find a table somewhere and I can take his ass and video it because he thinks it's a dumb game that anybody can play. um Any retort you want but before I go to my next one?
01:06:11
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i d g f d g f ay yeah
01:06:21
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That's what the kids say when they don't give a **** I'm I'm old dead don't don't use acronyms. I know I know I just thought about that when you're like I mean, you play foosball. You don't got to say you're old the hell your Santa Claus are freaking trying to whip me up in some wooden man ball game. It's I can't, you know, what's hilarious is I had so many people like. You know, if you, if you don't know how to play foosball, you're going to get your ass whooped and I'm like, I don't care. I'm going to tell play this no matter what, even if I, if I lose, win, whatever it's, good that's my stance on this. Hey, it wouldn't have been a big deal. You said the game was easy.
01:07:08
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I still think it is. And then it it will, it'll happen. Dennis. I'm, I'm very, very, very. One day we're going to walk into some place that has a foosball table. Some Canadian pizzeria. And yeah, we're going to get, yeah. yeah ah you Yep. But it was funny. He did. He just so you guys know how serious he is about this. I get a text message on there's Friday and he's like, dude, are you working? And I'm like, no, it's my son's birthday. And he's like, um Oh shit. I got a big problem. I'm like, all right. What is it? What what is it? i'm I'm generally concerned, right? My buddy calls and says, you got a problem. I'm like, what is it? He goes, someone's coming to pick up the foosball table. And I was hoping you could stop by and like whoop your ass. i did didn't say i know that not today I would have if I was working, but so tough shit.
01:08:03
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Uh, so it sounds like the weekend of the 20th and 21st, we're going to be at Rick's place did, uh,
01:08:14
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right. You, you're looking at like, you're confused. No, no, I was looking and in, uh, before we go there, I was just looking at, uh, when we pulled up the, uh, the maker spotlight. I just noticed that Travis over at Pelican Pace is working up a new batch of of shop hands that you were just talking about. So we got some new hand juju up in the in the works here. All right. and a need So yeah, you do. So yeah, so I found out that or yeah, so I have a golf tournament in Reno in a couple of weeks. And so I hit up my buddy Rick Hall and was like, Hey, I'm going to be up there.
01:08:53
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And he's like, come on down. You know, and I'm like, cool. Finally, I'm going to get some fucking one-on-one time with fucking Rick and Dennis won't be around. And like, we're just going to hang out. We're going to fucking just, just totally, you know, I'm going to get the the one-on-one the lesson from, you know, a maker that I admire and you know, blah, bla blah, blah, blah, blah. I let Dennis know and all of a sudden he's free and he's coming. So. You invited me in, Rick. No way. Rick and I both don't want you there. No, I'm kidding. Did did he tell you what my idea was and what we're gonna do?
01:09:29
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Yeah, he did. And I said, I said, I'm not participating in it because you and I are going to ignore him the whole time. Oh no, we're doing it. i yeah That sounds fun. I've been wanting to do this on the channel for a while. Uh, this is going to be a little fun build off. So myself, Jared and, and Rick are all gonna have, we gotta put some kind of time limit on this. I think we should do it in like. an hour, maybe two hours, we'll give ourselves two hours. And we're gonna make throwing knives. And then after the two hours, we're going to test them. So there'll be two, there'll be two components, the the making and then the throwing. And then, and I suggest all this and like, and then Rick's like, Oh, yeah, I used to throw knives and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, Oh, Jesus.
01:10:23
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ah so you Yeah, I think he's gonna have an ah an in here but it should be fun. It'll be some some good content if nothing else Yeah, that's cool. Uh, that sounds that sounds like fun for real and I was just joking I I was I did invite you I was because Rick and I were talking and every time him and I get together we have these grand plans and I'll be it the grand plans usually turn out really well. like The first time we we spent a weekend together, we made the ocean sunset pattern, and which I made that dagger out of, which is still my favorite build. Hands down. Hands down. yeah so For me too, I should just say. Yeah. yeah i I love that pattern. and I love that knife, the way it turned out. But that was like
01:11:10
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two really long days of forging and we didn't really get a chance to relax. yeah It was like go, go, go the whole time. And then the last time he came here to my shop, we decided we were gonna make Damascus hammers. And the same thing, forge, forge, forge. And it was like, so this time we're gonna do something a little more chill where we have time to relax. Plus I think it's gonna be, hotter than Hattie's there. and
01:11:42
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um yeah You just clued in, right? I was just thinking, yeah, that was great. That's good. So yeah, we might we might need the time and the air conditioning.
01:11:58
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So yeah, so that'll be fun on the 20th, 21st. And then I've finally booked my slot with Mike Bang Nino to take my folder class, which is going to be beginning of August. So it's weird how that works out. I invite you along and you leave me out. Hey, that's not my doing mics. I talked to my kid. I talked to my kid and played and I got a different story, dude. Sorry. I got a completely different story, but it's all good. Whatever. Whenever you make fun of my spelling and leave me out of cool things, whatever. But yeah, so yeah, that's that's my life right now.
01:12:42
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Yeah, oh and sand sharks update on sand sharks pre-orders are almost all out. I got three more to ship out b Because apparently I can't count and I miscounted the linear rails So they're coming in tomorrow, I think so there'll be out in a couple of days there was a snag so I have my son Parker helping me and There's this you haven't seen the sandshark there's a plate that the motor mount attaches to and it's got holes in it and they're tapped and they're offset a little which I kind of forgot and they're offset so that the motor lines up with the slide plate and then the arm you know there's there's no
01:13:32
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collision with the arm and the the motor mount and any of that. Well, when he was putting them together, he flipped some of those plates. And then I noticed And then I thought, oh, because I was thinking those holes were centered and it didn't matter. But I forgot that they were offset. And I even put in the instructions, hey, if you want the motor on the left, you can, or the right, you can change it. You can't change it. The motor must be on the left. So I had to email a whole bunch of people and say, hey, yeah, when you get it, flip there flip the motor plate over so that the motor is coming from the left.
01:14:09
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um So I have fixed the instructions and now it. It'll be resolved. Has anybody got one yet? I haven't seen. Oh yeah, yeah, a bunch of people. A couple of people have posted already. I've been tagged in a few posts, so. Yeah, they started arriving at people's probably Wednesday last week. Probably a couple of people got them Friday and then others will get them probably tomorrow, Monday. um And then drop two also got shipped Friday. So that will start to arrive this coming week. So ah depending on where you live. So yeah, the the first.
01:14:55
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47 ish um should be delivered pretty much by end of the week. The next week, ah there's some going to Canada. So those will probably take a little longer. But yeah. So nice. That's there. um And congratulations, man. Yeah, I'm on I'm on to the regular orders and trying to get the parts ordered for the next batch um that is the actual production line of them. um And there's already a couple of orders, even though they're back ordered, there's a couple of orders on those already. So that's cool. But I hope they'll be actually in stock in maybe a couple of weeks. All right.
01:15:45
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So I got to know, I think the rest of the world wants to know before we head out of here was how was your first week of being a loser? I mean, retired. No, it was, it was kind of weird. Um, mind you, it was a short week in July 4th and all of that, but, right um, it was, it was different like Monday morning. Um, not not going to work and just walking downstairs and having coffee. Oh, and I should say um the reason and I think I mentioned this, the reason we sold the foosball table is so that, you know, we have a loft at the top of the stairs there when it's got a couple exercise things in there. We wanted to make that a bigger exercise room. So I've been working out every morning, then going down to the shop.
01:16:32
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And, uh, so that's been really cool. And just, you know, I'm, I still have like a regimen, like I want to get up, work out, be downstairs in the shop by eight o'clock. Sure. Um, and then, you know, put in a full day and yeah, but it's, it's been really good. Yeah. No. Yeah. It was weird Monday, not kind of getting on a meeting. Like I have used to have a Monday morning call, not getting on that. Um, but, uh, it was a little different cause I was still working on all these sand sharks. So that was kind of odd, but I think this coming week, well, except I have classes, but when those classes are done and then it's like, okay, I'm making knives every day, then we'll see how it goes. So talk to me next week. Oh, well, I think I'll be here. All right. Yeah. That's cool, man. That's cool. I thought I, yeah, that's cool.
01:17:32
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Pretty jealous here because I got to get up and go to work tomorrow. So fuck off.
01:17:39
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No, I'm teaching a class tomorrow. All right. I'm excited about it. So. All right. and Anything else? yeah Do we miss anything? I don't think I think we paid all our bills. We got our spotlights and we talked enough shit to each other. So I think that's a wrap. It's been a fun one. I will yeah talk to you folks next week. Alright.
01:18:19
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And that's a wrap.