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E25: Throwing down
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It's back to hot and this week we're throwing down! That's right, the big throwing knife competition at Rick Hall's shop. Come listen in to all the shop talk, laughs and general good time!
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Your hosts:
Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts Welcome
00:00:07
tyrellknifeworks
Thank
00:00:15
echo_blades
What's up, everybody? Welcome to another Triple T podcast for knife makers. If you hang around long enough, you'll hear stories, lies and tales of victories that never happened. And all of this stuff is
00:00:30
tyrellknifeworks
you.
Fantasy Accusations and Casual Banter
00:00:31
echo_blades
fantasy inside of the head of my co-host, Dennis Terrell from Terrell knife works.
00:00:38
echo_blades
I'm Jared from Echo blades and dig in folks. Here we go.
00:00:44
tyrellknifeworks
but Nice lead in.
00:00:48
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, man. So it was great.
00:00:51
echo_blades
Look, I just want to write off the bat. I want to just deflate this guy's big ass head and say that it was all rigged. Every bit of it was rigged. It was a setup from Rick and Dennis to take Jared down.
00:01:10
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, you're right. It was a set up.
00:01:12
echo_blades
And it was this operation success.
00:01:16
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:01:17
echo_blades
We'll get into that later though, yeah.
00:01:18
tyrellknifeworks
We'll get that soon enough.
00:01:23
echo_blades
What's up, man? I haven't seen you in a while. How are you?
00:01:24
tyrellknifeworks
oh Yeah, it's been a long time. I had to spend the whole weekend with you.
00:01:30
echo_blades
I know.
00:01:30
tyrellknifeworks
oh It's good. Back to work today.
Knife-Making Activities and Weather Challenges
00:01:33
tyrellknifeworks
ah you know
00:01:35
echo_blades
Get the fuck out of here with that. There's five people listening this week. Are you going to lie to them right off the bat?
00:01:43
tyrellknifeworks
ah Well, I had work to do. I got got really far into profiling, heat treating two knives today. I was very excited. So yeah, it's back to work, but I had already forged the Damascus last week.
00:01:56
echo_blades
Did you beat the heat?
00:02:00
tyrellknifeworks
So this was all inside with the air conditioning on.
00:02:04
echo_blades
Nice, nice. I know maybe people are tired of hearing about it, but it's back up to the surface of the sun again.
00:02:11
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. I had to cut it because I had to actually get to my surface grinder. So I had to like cut down all those boxes and just standing outside for 10 minutes, cutting up boxes was bullshit.
00:02:23
echo_blades
Yeah, it was a hot weekend, dude. I, I'm just, apparently I live in a hundred degree weather, no matter where I go.
00:02:32
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it was, uh, it was a hot, sweaty weekend. Last week was so nice. It was, it was so nice and temperate last week. I got some forging done. I was very happy about it, but then it all went to shit on Friday, but I guess we can't complain.
00:02:46
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:02:49
tyrellknifeworks
It could be worse. I suppose.
00:02:51
echo_blades
Somewhere.
00:02:53
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, somewhere.
00:02:54
echo_blades
Maybe somewhere, maybe.
00:02:56
tyrellknifeworks
So besides the part that I know, how was your week last week and what happened?
Reno Golf Tournament and Casino Adventures
00:03:03
echo_blades
Dude, I had a great weekend. It was a short work week. Um, that's always fun, but I, uh, was talking last week that I had a ah golf tournament to go to in Reno and Um, I ended up taking off Thursday because normally for years and years, it's been a couple of years since I've been to this event, but normally, um, another, uh, company and ours would get together and we'd do like a little friendly, uh, warmup round before the tournament on Friday. And, um,
00:03:45
echo_blades
That didn't happen. So I yeah called up our buddy, Rick, who I intended and I intended I was going to hang out with this weekend. um He likes to golf. So I hit him up and I was like, OK, but you want to go out and hit some balls? And he yeah agreed. So we went out and had a had a blast.
00:04:07
tyrellknifeworks
so he He made it sound like it was his idea.
00:04:11
echo_blades
ah He actually Had mentioned it before, but I wasn't quite sure I could work it out because like I said, normally I already have plans, but yeah, we got together.
00:04:15
tyrellknifeworks
Alright.
00:04:20
echo_blades
We went out and golfed in Carson city, I believe. a really fair, flat, open course. And, uh, you know, when you golf with new people, you're, you're always, I am anyways, I'm always nervous. You're going to shit the bed, but I, uh, started off, I just blasted one right down the center of the fairway, probably two 8,300 and proceeded to golf a fairly decent round that day. Um, it was about like 95. It wasn't too bad. It was hot. Um,
00:04:55
echo_blades
There's no no wind this weekend at all. Like just still still dry and hot.
00:04:59
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:05:00
echo_blades
And there's no shade in this on this course. um But we did the nine holes and then went back to his shop and finally got the tour of ah Rick's place. Just an awesome, awesome shop. It's like a knife maker's paradise in there. He's got everything.
00:05:21
tyrellknifeworks
he's got everything He's got multiples of everything, not just everything.
00:05:23
echo_blades
Yeah, multiple. Seriously, he's got the the knife makers shop paradise. I mean, it it just every time I turned around, I was like, oh, oh, oh, oh. But I had to go check in um to the hotel because the the event started in the evening, like five or six or something like that. So I didn't we didn't get to do anything, but got to hang out for a little while and play some golf. See a shot, meet his buddy, ah Mitch, cool dude. Um, and then went and started the, uh, the work golf event thing.
00:05:59
echo_blades
Um, like I said, man, that place, they put on a great, great event for everybody. Uh, great food and hotels. Awesome. And then I was all fired up for golf the next day. Cause I played pretty damn good.
00:06:13
tyrellknifeworks
where Where was the tournament?
00:06:13
echo_blades
Uh, it was that Red Hawk.
00:06:14
tyrellknifeworks
What golf course was the tournament?
00:06:18
tyrellknifeworks
Redhawk.
00:06:19
echo_blades
Yeah. So it was a beautiful, beautiful course, uh, two courses on it, uh, the Hills and the lakes. And we ended up playing on the, uh, on the lakes, but I was, I knew I was in trouble cause I have a, um, excuse me. I have a love hate relationship with like going to the driving range and warming up cause I'm not very good. So I feel like sometimes I waste all the good shots.
00:06:45
tyrellknifeworks
You're not very good. Bullshit, I'm not very good. you're wait you You're way better than not very good.
00:06:51
echo_blades
Uh, but, uh, I started hitting some balls and I started getting the yips and I was like, Oh fuck. And then I got in my head, but thankfully it's like a, you know, it's a, it's a best ball tournament. So it was cool, but, um, I really shit the bed on Friday and it was hot. It was hotter than it was Thursday. And I think I was, uh, tired from just being out in the sun all day, the day before I didn't, you know, yeah, seriously.
00:07:15
tyrellknifeworks
So you had a hot sweaty shit in the bed.
00:07:20
echo_blades
Uh, it was fun though. Great people. Um, yeah. And that event's really cool. Will Clark was there from the giants and, uh, you guys all probably know by now, my general disdain for the San Francisco giants so much that I hate the color orange with a passion. But ah Will Clark gets a pass from me. That dude's a freaking beast. Super cool, dude. Always telling great stories. ah He was there. Festus Azeali? Shastic Azeali from...
00:07:51
echo_blades
I am fucking that name up. I can't believe that. ah From the Warriors. um Was there... Basketball players are tall, bro. Like, I'm telling you, like, I know that sounds stupid, but if you stand next to somebody that's 6'10", holy shit.
00:08:01
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:08:07
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:08:07
echo_blades
I don't feel small around a lot of people, but this dude, man, that was cool. Cause they have these celebrity holes. Uh, this one was over as like 170 over a water onto a, not an Island green, but you had to clear a bunch of water. And I, uh, hell of people around just like probably 20 people, maybe 10, sorry. Now they're really thinking about it, maybe 10 people, but Lamont and Tom Nelly from the the radio. Uh, the bone down here, they, uh, they MC the event.
00:08:41
echo_blades
So one of those guys, the littler dude was there. But anyways, I stuck that green and, uh, dude comes up to me and like, he's like, Oh man, nice shine. Gives me a fist bump and like a fist bump Dennis. it And it was like this to my, my fist is like, yeah, the basketball guy.
00:09:00
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, the the basketball guy you mean. oh Okay.
00:09:04
echo_blades
And I was just like, whoa. And he's just a just a fucking big dude, man. So that was cool. um Then proceeded to go back and sleep for like three hours after that. And then they have the big dinner um where those two guys get up and talk. They do a raffle. Great prizes. I actually got skunked this year. I didn't I didn't get picked.
00:09:29
tyrellknifeworks
So you got skunked all weekend.
00:09:30
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah, literally all weekend fucking ass. But um so then it is out of casino, right? So I'm not a gambler. You a gambler?
00:09:43
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, yeah, I would say I'm a gambler. I like gambling.
00:09:47
echo_blades
OK, I know it's never never been my thing. Like to me, I always think about like, even if I spend twenty dollars, I always think that's a lot of tacos. Like I could have a lot of tacos with that money and
00:10:01
tyrellknifeworks
I mean, I'm not a crazy guy, but I'm not going in spending thousands, but I've, you know, I've sat down at a table with a thousand before.
00:10:01
echo_blades
good
00:10:11
echo_blades
Oh no, never, never, not even close. Like I think a couple of years back I did a, we had ah another work event in Vegas and I had my wife with me and I think we pulled out like 200 bucks. that was the for That was the first time I've ever used an ATM at the, ah at a casino.
00:10:31
tyrellknifeworks
But you weren't ready for the fee.
00:10:33
echo_blades
No, fuck the fee. If he was easy, dude, it's the, the, the, the amounts that they default to.
00:10:34
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, okay.
00:10:40
tyrellknifeworks
Oh yeah.
00:10:40
echo_blades
like I want quick cash, 40 bucks. They're like, at first one was like 200 bucks, you know, that up to like 10,000.
00:10:47
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:10:48
echo_blades
Like it was crazy. Uh, that was a trip to me. Uh, cause you know, ATMs, you know, like 20, 60, 80, a hundred, 300, and you got to get special.
00:10:54
tyrellknifeworks
Oh.
00:10:56
echo_blades
You got to go inside to the bank, you know, not these, they were just like,
00:10:59
tyrellknifeworks
Well, you usually you go and it's like, yeah, it starts at 200 or 400, but it's, it's fucking 20 bucks to get. It's the tough fees are but ridiculous.
00:11:10
echo_blades
I don't remember the fees, but I do remember just being like, no, no, no, and a custom, custom, custom. just let me
00:11:20
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:11:20
echo_blades
So, uh, well, I didn't do that this time, but, uh, so they, uh, part of the, the deal with the event is that you get a hundred dollar chip back from, uh, when you check in. So I was like, well, you know, shit, you know, a hundred bucks. This is great. I'll, I'll go try that. So, um,
00:11:38
tyrellknifeworks
And this isn't one of those, you got to play it in order to make it like, this is a hundred, but you can put it in your pocket.
00:11:42
echo_blades
No, no, you could cash the chip in. It's a hundred dollar chip. You could cash it in and walk away with a hundred bucks or you can go um lose it. And that's what I did. So, but I normally, I played ah ah before anyways, I played craps for the first time ever.
00:11:54
tyrellknifeworks
You played, would you play? Love that game.
00:12:04
echo_blades
And never like I think you and I were talking about it and it never like never dawned on me to like YouTube the rules. or like to try to figure out how to play it. I just, I just walked up to the thing with a couple of buddies from the tournament and the dealers really just, we got the first night I went in there 20 minutes, lost 60 bucks. It was like this, boom, gone. It was a shit show.
00:12:30
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:12:31
echo_blades
And I, and I, I didn't get it. I still was just like, okay, whatever. So I was like, all right, I'm going to bed. That was an early night. And then the Friday night I was like, well, I got 30 bucks. I'm going to see what happens. And, um,
00:12:42
tyrellknifeworks
That's not enough to play, perhaps.
00:12:42
echo_blades
So I played for like two and a half hours on off that 30.
00:12:46
tyrellknifeworks
You got really, you had a good run, but craps goes in, in, in runs kind of thing.
00:12:48
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:12:51
tyrellknifeworks
And, and, um, the best part about craps is that it's the most social game at a casino.
00:12:51
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:12:58
echo_blades
Yes.
00:12:58
tyrellknifeworks
Cause everybody is going for the shooter. It's not like at blackjack, you don't give a shit if the guy, you know, you don't want the guy behind you or the the anchor chair, the last guy to be an idiot and take a car to, he shouldn't have taken that would have busted the dealer.
00:13:14
echo_blades
Okay. That's a, that's a great point. Cause that's why I don't play with blackjack, right? Because I'll, I'll be down there and then I'll start feeling anxiety or something and then I can't count. And then I'll do something wrong and I'll piss somebody off and then I want to fight them.
00:13:27
tyrellknifeworks
Right.
00:13:28
echo_blades
And you know, I'm like, you know, this isn't fun, you know?
00:13:29
tyrellknifeworks
Like any other table, they don't give a shit if you win or lose, but it craps. Everyone wants the shooter to do well. Oh, unless you're a dick playing, then don't come lying.
00:13:37
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:13:39
tyrellknifeworks
But you know, most people don't do that.
00:13:40
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I, I, I learned though to play the, play the, uh, the top part with the 68s and the nines and you know, and the numbers and the hard way and you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:13:49
tyrellknifeworks
The numbers. Yeah, yeah.
00:13:53
echo_blades
And so I started making money, you know, after I started rolling, but I had a roll for like, uh, I think I had the dice for like 20, 25 minutes or something.
00:14:03
tyrellknifeworks
That's amazing.
00:14:03
echo_blades
It was a, it was a good roll.
00:14:05
tyrellknifeworks
That's amazing.
00:14:05
echo_blades
There was a lot of happy people that didn't share. I'll tell you that. And I didn't make nearly as much as, as some people were, but yeah, I had the tables going, um was you know, it was cool, man. It was that part was fun. The, oh, the funniest part was my very first role. I threw it and it barely made it halfway across the table.
00:14:25
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, you bitch move.
00:14:25
echo_blades
And so the dealers, they scold me. They're like, yeah, they're like, Oh my God. So, you know, the four on on a short roll. And I was like, what the fuck does that mean? they're like He's like, big dude like you, man, you got to throw those dice. I mean, come on. So the next throw, boom, I fucking chuck them. They pop out the table onto the floor. I'm like, see? And then it started to get the hang of it. The dealers that were on the table were super cool. They were, they were a lot of fun. They were helpful. Um, it was fun at a good, at a good time.
00:14:53
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:14:54
echo_blades
And then I ran out of money and ran out of money and went to bed.
00:14:55
tyrellknifeworks
And then lost it all Did you did you play roulette at all?
00:14:58
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:15:01
echo_blades
No.
00:15:02
tyrellknifeworks
No roulette Oh Different
00:15:02
echo_blades
I didn't, that's another game I didn't, I didn't get, I think, uh, you know, I didn't understand how they, I figured it out though, that everybody has the different colors. And then, but I, the one thing I didn't understand was the mark with the, the, the glass thing they take.
00:15:11
tyrellknifeworks
color Yeah, you thought they were just scooping chips
00:15:17
echo_blades
It's like I was mesmerized that this fucking dealer was like a freaking witch or something because the thing would, you know, hit the point. And then all of a sudden she just wipe all the chips off the table. And I'm be like, how the hell did you figure like? And then she's giving people back money and stuff. And so, yeah, I ain't the sharpest shit in the tool.
00:15:34
tyrellknifeworks
But like the one story I have about roulette I'm at, I'm in Vegas with a buddy's bachelor party.
00:15:36
echo_blades
I'll tell you.
00:15:44
tyrellknifeworks
Okay. These guys, ah these are all engineers. They're all software engineers and there's 18 of us. And even though these guys are all math guys, they know the odds. They love to find roulette tables that have like black, black, black, black, black, black. Like they show you the last roles and they want to bet on the opposite, even though they know it doesn't matter.
00:16:00
echo_blades
Yeah. Right.
00:16:04
tyrellknifeworks
So we get there and they want to bet on roulette. I don't like roulette, but they force me basically, okay, fine. So I take a $5 chip, put it on 23 and it hits. And I make whatever, like it's like 250 bucks or something like that. Cause I put it right on the number.
00:16:26
echo_blades
Oh, gotcha. OK.
00:16:27
tyrellknifeworks
Okay. Right after that roll, we leave. That casino, we go across the street to another casino, another roulette table. There is a wedding party, a bunch of guys, a bachelor party at a roulette table. And there is, and I'm not exaggerating, there is two feet of chips, at least 24 inches, maybe 18, 18 inches of chips stacked around 23 like it's the Empire State Building.
00:16:47
echo_blades
Oh, geez. Oh, wow.
00:16:57
tyrellknifeworks
And they're getting ready to roll. And I'm like, I got to get in on this. I put a $5 chip on 23 back to back rolls.
00:17:07
echo_blades
Oh, wow.
00:17:07
tyrellknifeworks
It hits 23. The casino must've paid out 10 grand. Not to me, but of all the chips on it, I've never, and I had 18 witnesses and they couldn't believe it.
00:17:15
echo_blades
Right.
00:17:21
echo_blades
Wow.
00:17:21
tyrellknifeworks
that Yeah.
00:17:23
echo_blades
That's awesome.
00:17:24
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:17:25
tyrellknifeworks
That was, yeah, no kidding.
00:17:25
echo_blades
That's a day that would keep me coming back.
00:17:28
echo_blades
and so yeah I could see how people get stuck doing it, you know, like, because you're like, Oh, man, or and it's every time I was like, I think I should do that. And then it would hit and I'm be like, Mother, you know,
00:17:37
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, but this is the guy that got married. This is the same guy. He's, he's up like two grand for the weekend and we're on our way to the airport and he's like, I should just go put this on black. I'm like, no, fuck you. You shouldn't go put it on black. Put it in your pocket.
00:17:55
echo_blades
Yeah, it was a good time, man. I enjoyed it. I i think ill I'll do it again, you know, i I have enough. Oddly enough, I don't have any self control in any area of my life except for the loss of, you know, yeah, ah at a casino and the loss of potential tacos.
00:18:06
tyrellknifeworks
Except for money at a the casino.
00:18:13
echo_blades
It's really the driver, right? Honestly,
Balancing Knife Making and Golf
00:18:16
echo_blades
so I had a funny, funny story, though.
00:18:16
tyrellknifeworks
the
00:18:17
echo_blades
So one of the guys that ah I was golfing with, um was, uh, we were just talking and, you know, um, about golf and cause I, I pretty much gave up, I used to golf like three times a week, minimum. I golfed a lot. Um, it's, it's my personality.
00:18:36
tyrellknifeworks
We've got time to go off three terms a week, man. Holy shit.
00:18:38
echo_blades
It was great. It was, but it was beautiful. I had a lot of balance in my life and it wasn't really balanced. It was all golf, but, uh, but I, um, You know, there are people, oh, are you still golfing? You know, nah, cause I pretty much gave up golf for, for knife making, right? Cause you can't be away from the family. And you know, like it's, it's a, it's a time commitment more than anything, right?
00:19:01
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:19:02
echo_blades
Money sucked too, but you know, it's, you go out on a Saturday morning and you could spend five, six hours out there um on the slow night on a slow afternoon. Right.
00:19:11
tyrellknifeworks
Easy.
00:19:11
echo_blades
So that doesn't, that doesn't work for too long. Right. So, um, and it turned out great. Right. And I picked a. got into this and here we are today. But um so I was talking to the guy, it's like, yeah, no, I gave up golf for knifing. Oh, you make knives? Oh, you know, did the whole, um you know, share, Care Bear share. And he turned out to be a knife guy. And he's like, Oh, yeah, I just bought a nice knife and this and this and that. And excuse me, later on down the in the afternoon.
00:19:45
echo_blades
Um, he says, Oh, I said, I was like, you know, like so what else? I was like, Hey, you know, you have Instagram. I was like, Hey, you know, here, follow me. So I, I showed him the, gave him the echo blades account and he pulls it up and guy doesn't use as a personal account, right? Very little followers. It picks it up and he goes, Holy shit. I go, what? He goes, Jimmy DiResta follows you?" And I was like, yeah. He goes, dude, that is the biggest flex I've ever seen in my life. He goes, Jimmy DiResta is my idol and just goes off about like how, dure you know, everybody has their guy, right? And and I know DiResta is that guy for for a lot of people, right?
00:20:30
echo_blades
And and I was like, oh, yeah, I said, well, check this out. And I went in my pocket because we met him at Maker's Camp. And when I met him the first time, he gave me a card with his, you know, his name and his number. I was like, you know, give me a call any time. So I pulled that card out just to be an ass. You know, dude was like, oh, my God. And he was like, he was like all fanboying out on the thing. He's like, I can't believe you met that guy. And I don't get that very often, Dennis. I'd tell you, nobody thinks I'm cool. So and you get in that, uh, you know, nobody's ever done that when I said, I know Dennis Terrell.
00:21:05
echo_blades
So actually, well,
00:21:07
tyrellknifeworks
Well, if it makes you feel any better, I don't think Jimmy follows me.
00:21:12
echo_blades
it's par for the course. No pun intended, but, uh, it was pretty cool.
00:21:19
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:21:20
echo_blades
It was, it was pretty cool.
00:21:20
tyrellknifeworks
That's good.
00:21:21
echo_blades
I enjoyed it. He enjoyed it. We had a good time, but yeah, I felt like a little badass for a while.
00:21:27
tyrellknifeworks
Nice.
00:21:28
echo_blades
Yeah, it was cool.
00:21:28
tyrellknifeworks
Do you sell a knife?
00:21:31
echo_blades
I didn't. I ah came close and potentially I talked my way into maybe EchoBlades being in a part of the raffle next year ah for the event, which is pretty cool.
00:21:44
tyrellknifeworks
Hmm.
00:21:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:21:46
echo_blades
ah'd be ah That'd be a pretty pretty cool deal.
00:21:48
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. That's when you're probably winning. Get your own knife back.
00:21:52
echo_blades
Well, you get to pick.
00:21:53
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, okay.
00:21:53
echo_blades
So, yeah, I'd gladly pass on it. You know, maybe I could double double, huh? That would be, that'd be a great idea. Get my own knives and then sell them again.
00:22:04
tyrellknifeworks
a
00:22:06
echo_blades
Who's ever done that? Huh? I want to hear it. Have you ever sold a knife to yourself and then sold it again?
00:22:08
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, no.
00:22:14
tyrellknifeworks
Can't say that I have.
00:22:16
echo_blades
Yeah, it's your lane. That's why.
00:22:18
tyrellknifeworks
Cool.
00:22:19
echo_blades
But yeah.
00:22:19
tyrellknifeworks
Sounds like the tournament was a good time.
00:22:22
echo_blades
Yeah, it was fun. A lot of fun. Hot as hell though.
00:22:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:22:25
echo_blades
No sleep and hot as hell.
00:22:28
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I want to shake it up a little today and there's a reason.
Maker Spotlight: Jeremy Ballabol and Rick Hall
00:22:32
tyrellknifeworks
Let's do maker spotlight first um and then I will tell everybody why. So why don't you go first? Because I'm going to go last.
00:22:41
echo_blades
Quit telling me what to do. Huh? What about that? How about you just mind your business and let me run this show? It's 50-50 here, buddy.
00:22:50
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, I got it planned, so that's my lead in.
00:22:53
echo_blades
All right, all right. I understand. You're lucky. ah Hold on. Because I am, but...
00:23:02
tyrellknifeworks
You're not organized.
00:23:06
echo_blades
So I have Mr. Jeremy Ballabol from 4194G. That is a 419 forging on Instagram. I believe he has a YouTube channel too. um ah it Small one. I don't know if he's active on it, but, um Jeremy has 1290 followers and he has been, I think he started making like a year before I did. Uh, so we kind of been on a, on the journey, similar timeline. And, uh, I've watched him, um,
00:23:46
echo_blades
you know, grow like we get to do with this amazing community. But I was just seeing him be a lot more active here in the last month or so. And he posted this knife the other day, which my volume is on. And it's absolutely making me mental. But he's got a nice ah chef knife with some um wood from Ryan Chad born knives, Ryan cochlea over at the hustle and grind. And ah I think it's frickin.
00:24:18
echo_blades
Badass piece, so I thought I'd give him a shout out.
00:24:20
tyrellknifeworks
that That's what the green handle?
00:24:21
echo_blades
Yeah, that's really nice, really nice shape.
00:24:22
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:24:26
echo_blades
Finish is nice, the handles beautiful, so thought I'd give him a little shout out. And if you're not following Jeremy, make sure you go do that. Show him some love and check out the rest of the stuff he's doing and. And shit, if you feel like it, go buy a knife.
00:24:44
tyrellknifeworks
yeah ah we've been Yeah, we've been kind of friends with Jeremy for a while now, and good to give him a little shout out.
00:24:50
echo_blades
Yeah, I like he's got.
00:24:50
tyrellknifeworks
Haven't heard from him in a while. I think he had a, I don't know if he was on a little hiatus for a while or what. I hadn't seen many of his posts in a while.
00:24:56
echo_blades
Yeah, I think he's got one of those jobs where um it's it's like a lot of work and then he's got like a pretty good chunk of time off, you know.
00:25:01
tyrellknifeworks
seasonal Seasonal.
00:25:06
tyrellknifeworks
Okay.
00:25:06
echo_blades
So maybe he was in the in the busy season for a while and he's got some time to do it. But yeah, he's posting a lot now and but does his own Damascus built a press, you know, um just the whole thing. So. Go check out a Jeremy ball, a ball at 4, 1, 9, 4, Jing.
00:25:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, go give him a follow. Jeremy's a good dude.
00:25:27
echo_blades
Yep.
00:25:30
tyrellknifeworks
So who I have this week is our buddy, Rick Hall at Rick Hall knives.
00:25:32
echo_blades
Who do you have Mr. Tyrell? who
00:25:37
tyrellknifeworks
So, um, I know Rick, I've known Rick for a few years, at least, um, Rick and I did our journeymen together. We, um, we're chatting back and forth. you know, about our knives before that. i So I've known Rick for a while. ah He's been here, I've been to his place. We've we've done a collaboration, that ocean sunset dagger. um The Damascus for that was a collaboration. We've done some Damascus hammers together. So we've we've done a lot of stuff together. So when he contacted Jared, like we talked about last week, I suggested, because every time Rick and I,
00:26:16
tyrellknifeworks
you know and Jared or whatever, get together. It's always like some big grandiose, let's spend 12 hours a day in the Forge. We wanted to relax a little more this weekend. So we wanted to pick something much lower key. um So we wanted to do this throwing knife project. um So well, we'll talk a bit more about that, but definitely go check Rick out at Rick Hall Knives. um um We were looking at Rick's, he did this um Turkish twist Damascus frame handled Bowie knife that is just spectacular.
00:26:56
tyrellknifeworks
Like the Damascus on this one is like incredible.
00:27:01
tyrellknifeworks
And I know he he's gonna be posting that one soon. So if you're looking for, oh, is that up there now?
00:27:01
echo_blades
It's amazing.
00:27:06
echo_blades
It's up, it's on there. Yeah.
00:27:08
tyrellknifeworks
Amazing, amazing knife. Go talk to Rick. So, well yeah, give Rick a follow um and watch for him in this week's Triple T video. So we're gonna have some fun on that one.
00:27:23
echo_blades
Yeah, that was a good time.
00:27:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:27:25
echo_blades
Yeah, that Turkish twish is an absolute banger.
00:27:28
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:27:28
echo_blades
I got to I got to hold that when I was just like, oh, man, he did did a bang up job on that.
00:27:32
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah, just an amazing job.
00:27:37
echo_blades
We get great makers, super, super awesome, dude, so helpful and always just trying to help offering, you know, just fucking super cool, dude, super knowledgeable, just in a badass maker.
00:27:50
tyrellknifeworks
just
00:27:53
echo_blades
So, yeah, make sure if you're not following Rick, make sure you go check him out.
00:27:54
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:27:57
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, he's always ready to put your knife in a vice for you.
00:28:06
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:28:07
echo_blades
He's a big ass dude too.
00:28:11
echo_blades
He's another big dude. He's strong, strong like bull.
00:28:14
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah, yeah Rick I think is 6-4 and he looks like a football player so Yeah So What do you want to actually don let me let me tell you about a bit about my week last week so um before the um Before you left I started forging some I needed some
00:28:21
echo_blades
Yeah, he does.
Knife Projects and Damascus Design Salvage
00:28:42
tyrellknifeworks
Copper Damascus for a project. I'm working on this karambit project um because just for really, it's just for a video. This is not a custom order or anything like that. i' I've spoke before that the karambit is this karambit. I've made karambits before.
00:29:00
echo_blades
It's your nemesis.
00:29:00
tyrellknifeworks
the Yeah, just I've... i've It's just coincidental that like the last three times I've screwed up a Kuma, I bill it. It was trying to make this Karambit video. So finally, um I know, yeah.
00:29:14
echo_blades
Why does that make my heart smile? It's beautiful.
00:29:17
tyrellknifeworks
um but But this time it worked out stellar. And I i think it might be some of the best Kuma I have ever done. So I'm really excited to see it. And then when I made the billet, um And today I'm looking at it and I was gonna make a pair of karambits from it. But because they're karambits and normally you would say, okay, I'll just make i'll make a billet that's whatever inch and a half wide and I'll just curve it. It's really hard to do that with a kumai. I don't wanna risk hitting it on the edge and having it delaminate. So I actually made a three and a half inch wide billet.
00:29:58
tyrellknifeworks
that is 18 inches long. So maybe, maybe yeah, it's it's a lot of steel.
00:30:03
echo_blades
That's a big billet.
00:30:06
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:30:07
tyrellknifeworks
So I thought, well, if I if i make two karambits because they're kind of crescent shape, that's pretty much gonna use up that whole billet. And I mean, I've got that centerpiece, I'll probably save for um a folder. But then I ditched the idea, I made one karambit and I made a buoy knife. So I've got two knives coming out of this billet that I'm very happy about. But um yeah, and i this is the first time I've ever, and it sounds silly, but the first time I've ever lattered, because normally when I make kumai, I will put a pattern into the Damascus before I um layer it with copper as the cladding.
00:30:45
echo_blades
Is it cladding?
00:30:47
tyrellknifeworks
So I'll twist it, I'll do something with it.
00:30:48
echo_blades
Okay.
00:30:50
tyrellknifeworks
So in this time, after talking with Koi, Um, the way they do it, of course they get to some patterning depth and then they put a pattern. And so I ended up grinding in, cause I don't have ladder dies and I'll talk about that. Grinding in took me like an hour and a half on an angle grinder to grind in the grooves for a ladder.
00:31:09
echo_blades
Ooh, that does not sound fun.
00:31:11
tyrellknifeworks
It was not, it was not fun at all. My hands were like, you know, you use an angle grinder too long and like, uh, it was terrible.
00:31:15
echo_blades
Oh, I do.
00:31:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:20
tyrellknifeworks
But the billet came out stellar, like so good that um I'm really, really excited to see what it looks like. So but.
00:31:30
echo_blades
So I'm following you, right? You blattered the entire billet with the copper in and then press that.
00:31:37
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, and then pre and and then, yeah, and then went back in the forge and and drew it out, but and I was worried he was going to draw the pattern out too long.
00:31:38
echo_blades
Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice.
00:31:47
tyrellknifeworks
It it came out perfect.
00:31:49
echo_blades
Good.
00:31:49
tyrellknifeworks
And this one's got double copper with 15 and 20 between the copper, um double copper on each side. So it looks, I think it looks really cool. You guys will see pictures. The buoys already sold. I haven't even made it yet. And, but I'm hoping to get the Cranbit video up this weekend. So we'll see, but I'm definitely making ladder dies for the press. That's probably in the books for next week or something like that. So yeah, that's that's the exciting part. um Also last week, and now you and I have been working on this this billet. Well, we worked on that billet. We made some ah basket weave.
00:32:31
echo_blades
What was our intended, what was our intent? Cause I was trying to think about it the other day and we were, we we had like ah this plan.
00:32:39
tyrellknifeworks
yeah Yeah, I remember what the play we were going to make meals
00:32:44
echo_blades
Oh, that's right.
00:32:44
tyrellknifeworks
knots and crosses pattern. And I ah totally own this when ah we were, we were trying to make C's, but the billet was square.
00:32:47
echo_blades
That's right.
00:32:54
tyrellknifeworks
So we, we knocked in the corners and then I got confused and then we back basically it so that yes,
00:33:03
echo_blades
I just want to say because this probably won't happen again.
00:33:04
tyrellknifeworks
yeah yes
00:33:06
echo_blades
I said Dennis.
00:33:06
tyrellknifeworks
yes.
00:33:08
echo_blades
I think Yeah
00:33:14
tyrellknifeworks
didn't say shut up. But ah yeah, anyway, so we ended up with straight lines on was like a little like a square thin billet.
00:33:17
echo_blades
yeah
00:33:24
tyrellknifeworks
So we couldn't really do anything with it. So I said, Hey, why don't we make a basket week? So so I have eventually we we had all these these bars, then
00:33:34
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:33:36
tyrellknifeworks
I cut them up into kind of inch and a half pieces, stacked them all up after squeeze squaring or for weighing and you know, all that stuff. And then stack them up and then split them down the center like a feather. And when we're at Rick's, cause I brought them and this, this is a big bill and I cut it in two and Jared gets half and I get half and but I hadn't seen what it looked like. And then we etched it at Rick's place and then i It was way better than I thought it was going to be.
00:34:06
echo_blades
It it is insane I Was I was very happy like I was like I was a great idea great save Dennis great save That's right man orange juice set of oranges Reese's pieces
00:34:09
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it looks really good.
00:34:17
tyrellknifeworks
yeah Just turning, just making lemonade out of lemons. Yeah, so my last week was setting up for the three builds that I'll be working on. so the buoy, the cramp bit and then I'm going to be making a a big dagger out of my half of this basket split. So I got some other plans.
00:34:41
echo_blades
I don't know what the hell I'll do. out if it's good We're going to get a lot of steel out of that thing now.
00:34:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it's it's what it's about an inch.
00:34:48
echo_blades
Oh, it took the bigger half.
00:34:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I took the bigger it. I saw didn't exactly cut it on a straight angle, so there's a bit of a ramp, but. um Yeah, it's like, it's it's about an almost an inch thick, right? Maybe seven eighths each side.
00:35:05
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:35:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, about that.
00:35:07
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:35:08
tyrellknifeworks
Maybe a little less, but yeah,
00:35:10
echo_blades
Yeah. Mine's probably a little over half, but yeah, I was kind of i meant to do a reel on the, on the reveal of that thing.
00:35:12
tyrellknifeworks
probably five eighths or something. but um But it's also an inch and a half by four inches. So it's it's a good definitely a good size knife. Yeah. yeah
00:35:24
echo_blades
It was bad-ass dude came. I was like, woo.
00:35:28
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, i'm I'm looking forward to that. I already got in my head what I'm going to do with it, so I'm not going to let the cat out of the bag, but I think it'll be the cat's ass.
00:35:35
echo_blades
But if the, what?
00:35:38
tyrellknifeworks
The cat's ass.
00:35:40
echo_blades
Why?
00:35:40
tyrellknifeworks
The bee's knees.
00:35:40
echo_blades
It's good good. It was really good. Yeah. There you go. I didn't want to be a cat's ass.
00:35:46
tyrellknifeworks
The cricket's elbows.
00:35:47
echo_blades
I said somebody, I think, oh man, somebody said the, um, who was it? Jeff Carey, uh, from armored up. He sent us this video of a, like a diesel on ah a boat that was shaped like a diesel truck going down the road. And he's like, Oh, it's a cat's ass. And I'm like, I don't agree. I think it's fantastic. I think that's really cool. Going through that whole thing again.
00:36:15
tyrellknifeworks
I should look up the origin of cat's ass, but...
00:36:18
echo_blades
My favorite out of all of that shit that happened with that, my favorite was when ah Justin Lamouros
00:36:22
tyrellknifeworks
Lamaro?
00:36:27
echo_blades
sent ah us a picture of a bar called The Cat's Ass in Saskatchewan.
00:36:36
echo_blades
I didn't didn't share that with you.
00:36:38
tyrellknifeworks
I don't think so.
00:36:39
echo_blades
Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's got a picture of him cheesing with pointing up to the big says cat's ass on the front of the front of the bar. It's pretty cool. But if you didn't want to take the chance to uncease and fuck your billet up and then turn it into something super awesome, where would you go, Dennis?
Promotions and Upcoming Knife Show
00:36:59
tyrellknifeworks
And if you didn't want to make Kuma by yourself, ah you should go to the experts over at Baker fortune tool. Uh, cause it's a lot less effort. Those guys are just get it done for you.
00:37:10
echo_blades
that for
00:37:12
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, they really have some of the best steel around. I'm just trying to emulate one of their patterns and the one I did. Um, but koi and the boys, they got that process down. And ah now they got a new Blanchard grinder. So they're going to be pumping out billets even faster.
00:37:26
echo_blades
Yes. Yeah.
00:37:29
tyrellknifeworks
So what yeah, go get yourself some steel at Baker Forge and Tool. And if you are looking to make your own steel, your own your own Damascus, You got to go to maritime knife supply because Lawrence is the man. He will cut your Damascus to whatever length you want. And I love that feature ah because I'm lazy and I don't want to cut it up myself. That is really my least favorite thing is cutting up. I, when I used to have to cut up Damascus, it's an hour or two in my shop. I don't need to do. Um, I just ordered, what did I order? 40 feet of steel all pre-cut.
00:38:10
tyrellknifeworks
It's the best ever 40 feet of steel, all pre-cut for Damascus.
00:38:12
echo_blades
40. Wow.
00:38:17
echo_blades
Jeez.
00:38:18
tyrellknifeworks
How long would that have taken me to cut that into four inch pieces and grind the burr off the side and but yeah. So ah exactly.
00:38:26
echo_blades
I don't know how long it would have took you, but it took you nothing because of our boy.
00:38:32
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. So if you need steel, you need it. I just got some incredible scales from Lawrence. I got those, um, that. What is he called G10 Damascus or whatever? Very cool.
00:38:43
echo_blades
Mm hmm.
00:38:44
tyrellknifeworks
I like those.
00:38:45
echo_blades
I haven't seen him in person.
00:38:48
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, no, they're they're pretty awesome. So yeah, I'm looking forward to using those and yeah.
00:38:54
echo_blades
You can also get Gatorpis.
00:38:57
tyrellknifeworks
That's right.
00:38:58
echo_blades
He does carry Gator piss. I mean, if you don't using Gator piss, you should really use Gator piss to do your edge on your next Damascus build or that beautiful steel that you bought from Baker forged and tool.
00:39:00
tyrellknifeworks
He does.
00:39:09
echo_blades
I think this week he came out with some more says back by popular demand, the. Elite Aurora, my.
00:39:20
tyrellknifeworks
Ah, yeah.
00:39:21
echo_blades
Yeah, crafted with 1084 core cladding copper, Damascus and nickel shims in between. And if it's not already gone, go get you some um and you should check out the ah bigger forged and tool app as well, where you can get early access to all of the drops a day sooner. And while you're at it, you should go use the discount code Triple T 10 and save some money.
00:39:47
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, the, the Aurora my, that's the one that has like the band of Damascus and copper in the center with the black on the top and the black on the, I was, I'm, I almost did that one instead, but, uh, the, the cladding I had was too thick to make that happen. So.
00:40:03
echo_blades
Nice. And our, and our buddy Lawrence is actually, uh, sponsoring a, uh, the, uh, Great Lakes custom knife show and, uh, Godrich help me out.
00:40:18
tyrellknifeworks
Godrich?
00:40:18
echo_blades
godri Godrich Godrich. I guess that is Godrich Ontario and Canada.
00:40:21
tyrellknifeworks
In Canada?
00:40:23
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:40:23
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah. Godrich, yeah.
00:40:24
echo_blades
Canada's largest knife show located on the picturesque shores of Lake. Huron and featuring some of the best talent in Canadian.
00:40:37
tyrellknifeworks
It's like Huron, by the way.
00:40:39
echo_blades
Huron, why don't you guys say things that like in English?
00:40:40
tyrellknifeworks
Huron.
00:40:44
tyrellknifeworks
H-U-R-O-N. How else do you say that but Huron?
00:40:48
echo_blades
Huron.
00:40:49
tyrellknifeworks
That's what it is.
00:40:49
echo_blades
What did I say, Huron?
00:40:51
tyrellknifeworks
Yes.
00:40:56
tyrellknifeworks
oh And you know what else ah Lawrence is sponsoring?
00:40:58
echo_blades
a
00:41:03
tyrellknifeworks
The apocalyptic challenge.
00:41:05
echo_blades
Oh, nice. But before we go there, go check out the Great Lakes custom knife show at Great Lakes custom knife show an IG or visit their website at Great Lakes custom knife show.com for more information. And that event is happening on August 17th. So if you're in the area, go check it out for sure.
00:41:27
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, if that happens next year, maybe that's a good excuse for me to go back to Canada. My mom keeps bugging me.
00:41:33
echo_blades
Let's go.
00:41:34
tyrellknifeworks
Cause I know it'd be a business expense because God rich isn't far from where I'm from.
00:41:40
echo_blades
Really?
00:41:40
tyrellknifeworks
Hmm. Yeah.
00:41:42
echo_blades
I don't know the the Canadian how that all works out.
00:41:47
tyrellknifeworks
I'm from the province that dips down into New York, Ontario.
00:41:52
echo_blades
Ontario.
00:41:55
tyrellknifeworks
Now Jared's looking at a map because he's geographically challenged like every American.
00:41:55
echo_blades
The distance.
00:41:59
echo_blades
I'm actually not except for Canada.
00:42:02
tyrellknifeworks
The closest country.
00:42:03
echo_blades
So. I'm Mexican, good dude.
00:42:08
tyrellknifeworks
me
00:42:08
echo_blades
One time I look up is for fire sprinklers. That's it. No, not for Canada. Sorry.
00:42:13
tyrellknifeworks
That's it. We just lost like the two Canadian listers listeners that we have.
00:42:16
echo_blades
I know I my my Canadian friends is quadrupled 15 times since I started making knives.
00:42:18
tyrellknifeworks
And I'm one of them.
00:42:24
echo_blades
So I love all my Canadians ends.
00:42:27
tyrellknifeworks
You better.
00:42:28
echo_blades
That's right.
00:42:28
tyrellknifeworks
We're the best.
00:42:29
echo_blades
Sing me the anthem. Come on.
00:42:31
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, Ken. No one wants to hear me sing.
00:42:34
echo_blades
Oh, my God, I was getting so happy.
00:42:38
tyrellknifeworks
ah You know what else happened last week that I thought was i thought was funny as hell? ah Thursday morning, um sitting downstairs having coffee with my wife. And she goes, my computer won't come on. I'm like, what do you mean your computer won't? She goes, my computer won't start. So she phones IT at work.
00:42:58
echo_blades
oh
00:42:58
echo_blades
yeah that's
00:42:59
tyrellknifeworks
And apparently, just about every Windows computer in the world, wouldn't start. and Of course, I'm a Mac guy, so I think this is just hilarious. I meant to post something on IG and Instagram, ah you know just having a fun morning, turning on my Mac and having it work.
00:43:20
echo_blades
funny Oddly enough, I had the day off, but on on Thursday, ah but our company didn't use the ah the whatever it needed to to glitch out. So all of my employees got to have a full day of work.
00:43:37
tyrellknifeworks
You guys run Windows 97, is that why?
00:43:40
echo_blades
and ah I don't think so. I think it's 10. No.
00:43:45
tyrellknifeworks
Windows XP.
00:43:46
echo_blades
The XP. We just upgraded to Vista last week, dude.
00:43:53
echo_blades
Yeah, I was like, oh, shit.
00:43:53
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:43:55
echo_blades
I think now I'm going to start getting calls. You know, the people aren't there's nothing to do and have to send people home. But now everybody was good. They got the full day of work and nobody was flying anywhere. Flights were canceled. Surgeries were stopped. You know, it was a it was a shit show.
00:44:08
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. I want to know how many millions this is going to cost Microsoft.
00:44:12
echo_blades
Yeah, that's it's not a good day for them.
00:44:18
echo_blades
But, uh, yeah, you know what happened?
00:44:21
tyrellknifeworks
All right. so What did you get?
00:44:22
echo_blades
You know what I got? I got my order from Pelican paste today when I, I got home.
00:44:26
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, you don't you know how I know that? Because your wife stole your soap.
00:44:33
echo_blades
She did already.
00:44:35
tyrellknifeworks
You didn't you didn't see Travis's post?
00:44:37
echo_blades
No.
00:44:39
tyrellknifeworks
Travis reposted your wife's post that said that she was stealing your soap and you're going to have to order a new one.
00:44:46
echo_blades
Oh my God, I haven't seen that yet. What's going on here?
00:44:49
tyrellknifeworks
That it's funny to me that you haven't even seen it.
00:44:53
echo_blades
Well, I've been busy.
00:44:57
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, she stole.
00:44:57
echo_blades
I have no, oh shit.
00:44:59
tyrellknifeworks
She stole your shop hands.
00:45:01
echo_blades
Oh, well that's good for her. And Travis, I guess.
00:45:07
tyrellknifeworks
More for Travis than you.
00:45:09
echo_blades
and some look As I'm looking through, Yeah, I got okay. I'm gonna stop getting sidetracked here um Yeah, I haven't seen that yet. So yeah Congratulations to Mrs. Echo blades, but I got my order from from Pelican paste I got a big tin of the soft wax and then I got my custom. I think I got 12 custom Tins for with the echo blade logo on the on the top of the tin um all soft wax to go out with some orders um and I got the soap obviously and Travis did confirm last week that I was the first person to buy it.
00:45:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yes, I saw that.
00:45:48
echo_blades
Yeah, that was pretty cool.
00:45:48
tyrellknifeworks
i saw
00:45:49
echo_blades
I'm apparently I'm going to get a certificate or something, but if that ever happens I would be number one.
00:45:53
tyrellknifeworks
You're number one.
00:45:55
echo_blades
Yeah, but then this guy so he goes I get all that stuff. I'm stoked and I'm going through it. And then there's a, a little, another tin of the, um, the shop's hand, uh, the healing cell. And there's a note. I got to read this. It's hilarious. It is absolutely hilarious. It says, uh, from Travis on on the, on the, the, uh, packing slip says, thank you for the support. I threw in some, uh, an extra small tin of shop hand salve for you to keep in your wife's purse. And I started thinking, I was like, bro, there is like some serious jokes in there, right? Like,
00:46:44
echo_blades
I've never had healing solve in my wife's purse.
00:46:45
tyrellknifeworks
it
00:46:47
echo_blades
I always carry something else in there, you know, or she always carries my, uh, I thought that was hilarious. You know, the joke, right?
00:46:58
tyrellknifeworks
Not really, it's funny.
00:46:59
echo_blades
You never heard, you never heard people say, get your white, get your balls out your wife's purse.
00:47:00
tyrellknifeworks
No.
00:47:04
tyrellknifeworks
No, never heard that.
00:47:06
echo_blades
Oh my God. Your friends are lame nerds.
00:47:09
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, we're still, we're more interested in cats' asses than.
00:47:09
echo_blades
So anyways,
00:47:15
echo_blades
That's a good save. I was about to really bag on you. That was pretty funny. Yeah. So he told me to take my fucking balls out of my wife's purse and put the healing salve in there. Basically, that's what happens. So that's funny, Travis. Thank you, though. And that was really, really super cool for you to for the you to throw that in there for us. But for all of your premium wax needs, make sure you go check out Pelican Paste at PelicanPaste.com. You can get your hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand-solved, the new gritty soap. custom tins to include with all your orders. And while you're making that order, go ahead and put in the discount code TTT10. That's TTT10. Love you, Travis. Thank you.
00:47:58
tyrellknifeworks
yeah he Yeah, I shouted him out of my last video when I yeah finished off that Hamon Bowie. I coded it with some of that hard ah Pelican paste on the handle and the blade. Keep it nice and fresh for whoever its new owner will be. All right, so let's get to the let's get to business.
Knife Forging Session and Virginia City Trip
00:48:23
tyrellknifeworks
Let's talk about the ah the big dagger, the throwing knife sorry the big throwing knife challenge at Rick's place. um the The plan was we were going to get there ah early morning because we knew it was going to be hot as balls. and Forge first thing in the morning. I think we were out in the forge by, I think it was like seven 30. We, he had the forge pumping and we we got going right at seven 30, something like that.
00:48:57
tyrellknifeworks
Right.
00:48:58
echo_blades
Yeah, it was the hands off. She stole from me. She hasn't stolen the soap yet.
00:49:01
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, all right. I thought it was the soap.
00:49:05
echo_blades
You had me tripping. I was like, anyways.
00:49:11
tyrellknifeworks
Um, yeah.
00:49:11
echo_blades
Yeah, we got going really early. And you know how I know it was early, Dennis?
00:49:15
tyrellknifeworks
Why you're usually early, usually up early.
00:49:15
echo_blades
because I stayed up way too late and I didn't sleep. I got like four hours of sleep and he he initially had text me, you know, I said, what time do you want to get going? He was like six 30 via the house. And I was like, yeah. So I showed up at seven.
00:49:35
tyrellknifeworks
He and I were up it. Jeez. I think we were up it. We were, we were up probably quarter after six. having coffee on the, uh, on the porch, but yeah.
00:49:45
echo_blades
But man, I'll tell you what that was. We had a lot of cool shit happen, man, but I really enjoyed just chilling, sitting out there like the coffee in the morning. and the Yeah, just super easy vibes.
00:49:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. He Rick and his wife, excellent hosts. Um, yeah, it was, it was a good, and and it was nice to, to relax and, you know, get to know Deb, his wife a little more.
00:50:04
echo_blades
Oh, fantastic.
00:50:11
tyrellknifeworks
Um, And, uh, she's really funny.
00:50:14
echo_blades
Yeah, they're they're yeah way cooler than Rick.
00:50:16
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah,
00:50:18
echo_blades
It's kind of like Kim and probably Lin too.
00:50:20
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:50:21
echo_blades
the The ladies are way cooler than us.
00:50:21
tyrellknifeworks
definitely. Yeah. But, um, we started for, we, so we each got a bar 51 60. We each had our own little design of what our throne knife was going to be. And, uh, Jared brought props and, uh, uh, Rick had what he was going to do and I had my little design, what I was going to do.
00:50:43
echo_blades
So i want I want to set this up a little bit better, right? So if you guys don't understand, my buddy, my dear friend, Mr. Dennis Terrell is an absolute absolute beast of a competitor, right? He cannot lose at anything. And he is the most over prepared super Reese.
00:51:04
tyrellknifeworks
I don't like to lose.
00:51:09
echo_blades
I guarantee you, I don't care what you tell me, bro.
00:51:09
tyrellknifeworks
come on i
00:51:12
echo_blades
You spent hours and hours and hours. I mean, of just the most in-depth research on throwing knives. Rick and I woke up. I happen to have my, my mother had happened to give me these throwing knives like a year ago that have been kind of sitting in my shop. So I just grabbed those on my way out. I was like, well, fuck it. I'll try to do one of these.
00:51:30
tyrellknifeworks
All I'm hearing are excuses.
00:51:33
echo_blades
I'm just saying this guy has no, just, you know, just no, Hey, let's just have a good time.
00:51:37
tyrellknifeworks
I watched one video and it was mostly on how to throw throwing knives, which was a complete fail.
00:51:40
echo_blades
Had to barge in ruin my time with Rick to just flex on everybody. But anyways, 100%.
00:51:56
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah, we all I'm going to show a part of that in the video, but because if I showed all of you, you would think we are all pathetic because I think I think we threw those knives. What, 100 times before anyone stuck one in the wood?
00:52:14
echo_blades
You guys did.
00:52:15
tyrellknifeworks
No, before anyone stuck one, though, I think we threw those things for all.
00:52:19
echo_blades
I wouldn't fight. It wasn't that bad. Rick and I stuck them right out the bat.
00:52:23
tyrellknifeworks
You're bullshit.
00:52:23
echo_blades
You had a bullshit.
00:52:24
tyrellknifeworks
if
00:52:26
echo_blades
100 percent.
00:52:27
tyrellknifeworks
but you say right off the bat, you mean like the 20th throw.
00:52:27
echo_blades
And then you guys.
00:52:30
echo_blades
Now, Rick hit it like in the first five or six and I was right behind him. Now, after that, it was not repeatable, but you by far through it like 100 times.
00:52:39
tyrellknifeworks
Well, oh like but let let's let's roll this back.
00:52:41
echo_blades
But anyways,
00:52:43
tyrellknifeworks
So the and the one thing that
00:52:45
echo_blades
Dennis is a cheater.
00:52:48
echo_blades
Okay, go ahead.
00:52:49
tyrellknifeworks
it that Jared and I wanted to do, we were looking forward to, is using Rick's amazing power hammer to forge these things. Which was the most fun of of the whole thing, right?
00:52:58
echo_blades
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:52:59
tyrellknifeworks
It's forging this way.
00:53:01
echo_blades
not with Without a doubt, a single moment was cooler than then getting
00:53:01
tyrellknifeworks
Because...
00:53:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:53:07
echo_blades
to be that I have to say I posted a on Thursday I posted a video of of the big blue that he has and and I just put I put something like well hello there big blue and not the but power no that was not what I was trying to say I was just you know
00:53:16
tyrellknifeworks
ever Everyone thought you bought a big blue.
00:53:24
tyrellknifeworks
But even when I read it, when I read your post, I was like, oh, everyone's going to think you bought a power hammer.
00:53:29
echo_blades
I was not completely clueless, didn't even cross my mind. I was really just focused on putting my Crocs on and starting the power hammer with my Crocs and doing that. But yeah, a lot of people did. So my bad if you if you thought I was misleading you because that ain't happening.
00:53:44
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. But have you, Jared, have have we ever forged with 5160? Have you ever forged with 5160?
00:53:50
echo_blades
I have never, nope, never not once.
00:53:51
tyrellknifeworks
OK. fit
00:53:52
echo_blades
So I do have a story though that and when we were at Maker's camp and we started forging my, forged my first knife, I was telling Lawrence that I had a shit ton of 5160 and he was like, that's too bad. Sucks for you. And I was like, what do you mean? Like I don't get it. And he's like, dude, seriously, that is like one of the hardest steels to move. He's like, it's not for beginners, like of the carbon steels.
00:54:16
tyrellknifeworks
ah the carbon steels yeah
00:54:18
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:54:18
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:18
echo_blades
He's like, you know, he goes, in fact, um, he goes, uh, I can't remember what you, I, I don't know what he said after that, but I ended up putting an order in for some 10 75 cause that's what he suggested. And then he actually sent me two bars of 51 60 and said, have fun fucker.
00:54:37
tyrellknifeworks
of
00:54:38
echo_blades
You think you're so bad ass here. Give it a try. You are not going to have fun.
00:54:41
tyrellknifeworks
the carbon steels,
00:54:44
echo_blades
So
00:54:45
tyrellknifeworks
yeah. time I did the beginner series. I started with 51 60 and I would, I remember cursing myself for picking that, but I picked it because it's a common steel that and most people can use, but, uh, yeah, it does not forge well. So it's fun to be able to forge that stuff on the power hammer. So, um, yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:55:06
echo_blades
It was like cake.
00:55:08
tyrellknifeworks
I mean, I think we we were done forging in like was it 45?
00:55:12
echo_blades
45 minutes.
00:55:13
tyrellknifeworks
It felt like 10, but that's all of us.
00:55:16
echo_blades
Yeah. hey All three of us, I think we were done would definitely within an hour, probably more about 45 minutes.
00:55:17
tyrellknifeworks
That's all three of us.
00:55:23
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, so but that's not sharing and going back and forth.
00:55:24
echo_blades
We all had those.
00:55:27
tyrellknifeworks
I mean, I think if it was any one of us, we could have done it in 10 minutes like if that.
00:55:32
echo_blades
Yeah. And plus I've never used one. I mean, my forging experience is minimal anyways. And Rick was kind of guiding me through it.
00:55:36
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:55:39
echo_blades
and But it took a little bit, you know, you gotta not be a plus and kind of, you know, get after it a little bit. But once you start, it for me, I wanted to say this too, because I've, I've shared this a bunch of times, forging, It kind of baffles me, right? The rest of knife making, I'm not trying to be conceited or anything like that, but like the stock removal, you know, a lot of this stuff's kind of come natural to me, right? It's it's been more about ah conceptually anyways, right? I get it.
00:56:13
echo_blades
moving, forging with the hammer, especially on the anvil, like, you know, and knowing because you got to be like three, four steps ahead, right? to You hit it here to know and then you like kind of, okay, I'm going to end up over here by doing these couple of steps right there.
00:56:21
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:56:27
echo_blades
Using the power hammer was, for my brain, super helpful to actually visualize and see because you're not waiting, you know, it's like you're it's it's instant.
00:56:35
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that stuff happens so much faster. You yeah you see it.
00:56:38
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:56:39
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:56:39
echo_blades
um He's like, okay, we want to You know, hit the, you know, we're trying to put the tip in, right? And I was like, Oh, okay. You know, and then he's like, no, no, like this fucking old damn tip was forged in and one heat. And I was just like, Oh my God.
00:56:53
tyrellknifeworks
But they're there're certain there's certain things like when he's saying that, oh yeah, if you hit it here, it's gonna bulge the end and then you don't get the fish lips.
00:56:54
echo_blades
Really cool.
00:57:02
echo_blades
Yep.
00:57:02
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that's great on a power hammer.
00:57:04
echo_blades
Yes.
00:57:05
tyrellknifeworks
You try that with doing a 5160 on an anvil. It doesn't work that way.
00:57:09
echo_blades
i Yeah, I don't have any reference to that, but I can see because I did we I use the hammer a few times and it was like yeah, it's lame Hammers are awesome.
00:57:18
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:57:20
echo_blades
That's that's that's the moral of the stories Wow
00:57:21
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Power hammers are awesome for forging, like strictly foraging something. There's nothing better. I could imagine, could you imagine the combo of induction, forge and power hammer? Like you'd be done in like five minutes.
00:57:39
tyrellknifeworks
It'd be, it'd be so quick.
00:57:41
echo_blades
Wow.
00:57:42
tyrellknifeworks
I see why Rick has like a hundred and 45 on forged knives sitting in his bucket.
00:57:47
echo_blades
yeah Oh my God. I would have i would never finished anything. Oh my God.
00:57:56
tyrellknifeworks
ah It is super fun. Um, maybe not 145, maybe 25, but yeah.
00:58:04
echo_blades
He's got a lot of projects in the works, but yeah, that dude's super cool.
00:58:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:58:09
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. So, so after forging, uh, we weren't gonna, we were gonna relax for the rest of the day.
00:58:10
echo_blades
ah Incredible.
00:58:17
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, we got to talk about, we went to, we had Virginia city.
00:58:20
echo_blades
Virginia city.
00:58:23
tyrellknifeworks
Um, so Rick is in Reno and Virginia city, if you don't know, Virginia city is like, it was like a gold and silver boom town.
00:58:23
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:58:30
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, yeah, yeah.
00:58:31
echo_blades
Comstock mines. Yeah.
00:58:33
tyrellknifeworks
So it's way up in the hills and now it's like a tourist. you know, tourist area, you know.
00:58:40
echo_blades
Street vibes or I think street vibes goes up there as a big motorcycle event a couple of times a year.
00:58:43
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I had never been to Virginia city and so I thought it was really cool. We had lunch up there and had some pizza.
00:58:52
echo_blades
Yeah. Old West town. You got the wood, you know, walkways.
00:58:54
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:58:55
echo_blades
It's all slanted and shit. You did. I think you said it, but I was like, yeah, you've kind of, you feel drunk just kind of walking down the down the the the road there.
00:59:03
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I had that Long Island at lunch. I was a little tipsy to be begin with, but, um, but that was fun.
00:59:07
echo_blades
Oh man.
00:59:10
tyrellknifeworks
And then, uh, we went back, um, and, uh, what the hell did we do after that? Uh, Oh, we, well, no, no, we did all the surface grinding.
00:59:20
echo_blades
We finished, we started doing the knives at at night. We've, we've. Oh, we were heat treating.
00:59:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. We did the heat treating. That's what it was. And then we did some surface grinding and stuff like that, but we didn't really.
00:59:30
echo_blades
Now you ground the bevels in that night. Remember you were like.
00:59:31
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that was later, that was, yeah.
00:59:33
tyrellknifeworks
So we got to all that. um You know, Rick's got a whole separate grinding room, which is ah great. And the grinding room is air conditioned, which is awesome.
00:59:33
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:45
echo_blades
It's my favorite place.
00:59:45
tyrellknifeworks
um Yeah. So I'm grinding, I'm putting the, and the bevels on my throwing knife are like, like steep false edge kind of bevels. And I'm putting those in. And Jared comes in and I'm videoing my section and Jared comes in and goes, turn the video off. I'm like, what? He's like, turn the video off. I got to show you something. And then he throws the two halves of his knife on the ah on the rest for me to look at. Jared, tell us what happened.
Knife Throwing Competition
01:00:22
echo_blades
Well, we, uh, the guys were a little ahead of me with, uh, the process and I had spent a good amount of time. So these knives have been heat treated tempered. I think we got them down to 56.
01:00:39
tyrellknifeworks
fifty six
01:00:40
echo_blades
Yep. I think it was 56 spring still, um, you know, both surface grinding on the platen, um, trying to get the. get it down ah flat enough to get on the the surface grinder and so went back and we threw it on on the surface grinder and it had a just an ever so slight warp like ah super faint but it was enough to
01:01:02
tyrellknifeworks
56. Was it even a sixteenth of an inch bow?
01:01:06
echo_blades
It was so, it was so small. Yeah.
01:01:08
tyrellknifeworks
you guys
01:01:09
echo_blades
But it was, it was just enough to not like the magnetic Chuck, you know, uh, was kinda anyways.
01:01:09
tyrellknifeworks
go
01:01:17
echo_blades
So Rick grabs it, throws it in his, uh, three point, uh, straightening jig and
01:01:24
tyrellknifeworks
Attached to his vice.
01:01:26
echo_blades
attached to his vice and gives it a crank down and corrects most of it.
01:01:33
tyrellknifeworks
Should have left it alone.
01:01:33
echo_blades
Right. And then we go back to the, we go back to the service grader and he's like, man, so we ain't no going back there. He gives it a fricking, you know, a Rick Hall, probably, ah you know, from, for us normal, feeble human beings, you know, it would have been all of our might, but he'd probably just give it a little too much and tank. that fucking thing snapped right in the half, right? Just like quarter inch past the ricasso. Like, I mean, it was, it was, it was so, it was heartbreaking.
01:02:06
tyrellknifeworks
it Well, it did wound him on the way at least.
01:02:09
echo_blades
Yeah, I got him. It's stuck. I'm pretty good actually too.
01:02:12
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
01:02:12
echo_blades
Uh, but yeah, so my knife broke in half and, uh, we ended up having to, uh, doctorate up, uh, quite a few times. Cause it, uh, I never stayed again. We welded it back up and I had a, I had all the bevels ground in and it was, it was good. I was stoked. I loved the way that it came out. Um, and then it broke. So that's the first time that's ever happened to me. I've never, never seen it. Oh, the coolest part was the, the grain structure.
01:02:42
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, it was like powder.
01:02:42
echo_blades
was beautiful.
01:02:44
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:02:44
echo_blades
It was like powder. Yeah. Like it Rick was I, and let me just disclaimer here. Rick was mortified. He was absolutely like, I could see it in his face and I was, I wasn't upset. I never, not even for an, uh, for a minute, but yeah, I could totally see he felt like shit, you know? So it was kind of hard cause he's, you know, he's a sweetheart, and no but he's a, he's an asshole too, just like us. So, dont don't get me wrong. I spent good part of the weekend talking shit and trying to make him feel worse. But you know, I really felt bad for a minute because he was just like, oh my God, you know, it was it was a thing.
01:03:19
tyrellknifeworks
ah give it
01:03:20
echo_blades
I think Dennis was a paid him a shit ton of money. Like I'm pretty sure about it.
01:03:26
tyrellknifeworks
ah
01:03:27
echo_blades
Here's the here. Go ahead.
01:03:28
tyrellknifeworks
His logic was that, well, it's spring steel and it's down to 56. I'm like, what would possess you to put that advice and crank down on it and expect that it's going to bend and stin you know take its retain its shape? um Yeah, it would have needed heat ah for that.
01:03:48
echo_blades
He was convinced because he he was pretty confident, but yeah.
01:03:49
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Maybe if it was at 45, not 55, 56.
01:03:55
echo_blades
Yeah. I don't know, man, but it happened and I hope he got paid good.
01:04:03
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, you could still throw it. You just had to repair it a few times.
01:04:08
echo_blades
Yeah. So what ended happening was we, We called it a night, went to sleep, kind of, and then I went to, got up in the morning, went to breakfast, built the, ah you guys did all that because I was repairing my knife, the the target, right?
01:04:29
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, built a target with some like rounds from, uh, just log rounds. He had cut off and put it on some ply way. It was actually pretty good target, except the rounds kept, you know, we were so split in part.
01:04:40
echo_blades
They were a little dry. They kept, they broke up pretty.
01:04:43
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:04:43
echo_blades
Yeah. But.
01:04:45
tyrellknifeworks
But, uh, yeah, we drug the target over to, uh, a field and, um, and then we
01:04:51
echo_blades
Commence to learning that we don't know how to throw knives. I mean, that's the bottom line. Like and in all seriousness, that is harder than it sounds like.
01:05:01
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, the one.
01:05:03
echo_blades
i i I'm humbled.
01:05:04
tyrellknifeworks
do Yeah.
01:05:05
echo_blades
But the fact of knife throwing is is not easy.
01:05:10
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:05:10
echo_blades
And probably to like I said, we have no Dennis, you know, like you said, he watched the video and, you know, I guess Rick had had some experience, you know, but with some buddies of his that make throwing knives and stuff. And I had zero idea. I don't know. I didn't know if I had the right weight, if the length, you know, like I said, I kind of modeled it after one that I had seen, but No, there's plenty to be learned there in that row.
01:05:32
tyrellknifeworks
yeah I watched one video on how to throw like a no spin. So throwing a throwing knife without spinning it. And sounded easy.
01:05:44
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:05:44
tyrellknifeworks
You're watching the guy in the video and he's throwing them from 20 feet and they're not spinning and he tells shows you in the video. So I get up there and I could not. If I wasn't more than four feet away from that target, that thing was spinning like a like ah something that spins.
01:06:03
echo_blades
A top?
01:06:04
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, a ballerina. um
01:06:07
echo_blades
Oh, that's interesting.
01:06:10
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah, it was, and then I guess for a little while we all figured let's just throw them harder. Maybe they'll stick then.
01:06:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:06:20
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, I think that's when, uh, the weld, cause we were, we were launching these things from, I dunno, how far were were we? 10 feet, 10 feet, but we're hitting them so poorly and they're landing on the sides and they're hitting the side of the target and the side of the log that, uh, Jared's weld, uh, comes apart and his, ah your knife looked more like a boomerang for a little while.
01:06:28
echo_blades
Probably 10 feet. Yeah.
01:06:46
echo_blades
It did. I was like, I think this is toast.
01:06:49
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. so
01:06:51
echo_blades
Yeah, one of them almost came back and got me and you you actually you were walking away. That thing came whizzing right past you, dude.
01:06:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. And that's, but we were barely, maybe we might've stuck five of them at that point.
01:06:58
echo_blades
That probably would have stuck with our luck, right?
01:07:05
tyrellknifeworks
And I think we were throwing them for 20 minutes. Like we were not getting it. And then we finally all said, maybe we just need to slow this down and not throw them as fast. And then,
01:07:16
echo_blades
No, first let's let's get real here. We threw for a little bit, you know, maybe 10, 15 throws a piece. Mine broke. Then they sent me off back to the shop to go weld mine up.
01:07:27
tyrellknifeworks
but
01:07:28
echo_blades
Then they spend, you know, so yeah um by the time I'm over there doing that, they're just continuing throwing, continuing throwing. We come back. I started throwing mine a little again. It breaks again. I go back to the shop and re welded again. There's still practice, practice, practice. And then I walked back and they're like, okay, let's go. Let's compete. Let's start the competition.
01:07:47
tyrellknifeworks
ever No, it wasn't quite that bad. We we still didn't.
01:07:50
echo_blades
It was that bad.
01:07:51
tyrellknifeworks
we
01:07:51
echo_blades
I promise you, Rick will back me up on that.
01:07:51
tyrellknifeworks
we still the oh We still didn't figure it out until you came back and we slowed it down. And then maybe there was one time that you had to go and weld it again, but you,
01:08:04
echo_blades
yeah It was a lot, dude. It was, you guys spent a lot of time throwing them while I was welding. But anyway, at anyway, we went back, we we did it. And then I think, I don't remember the scores, but I hit a bullseye and then Dennis kind of won us to death and ended up winning.
01:08:19
tyrellknifeworks
well,
01:08:22
tyrellknifeworks
On the first one Rick and I were were pretty close. We were up to like it was like we got it up to like Rick and I were tied at five and you had nothing and then you hit a bullseye which gives you five.
01:08:33
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:08:33
tyrellknifeworks
And then I kind of want you guys to death. The the game was to 10.
01:08:37
echo_blades
Yep. And then I think we did it again. And then it was more ones and you won dust to death.
01:08:40
tyrellknifeworks
What happened on the second one?
01:08:44
tyrellknifeworks
I skunked you both on the second game.
01:08:47
echo_blades
I don't think he skunked anybody, but I want to see the video without you editing it.
01:08:48
tyrellknifeworks
I have it on video pal.
01:08:52
tyrellknifeworks
All right, I'll go have i' put the the whole 20-minute raw footage.
01:08:56
echo_blades
You know what? ah yeah No, please don't. There's some unflattering things there. You know what was was a bummer though is we did the outro, right? And like, I thought we were going to do something else. So I was just like standing there and I didn't even say anything. I didn't even give you any good content. I just kind of was like, well, I'm like, oh yeah, he won or, you know, but yeah, I tell you what, man, did playing a game with Dennis,
01:09:16
tyrellknifeworks
You said something. ah
01:09:27
echo_blades
is either extremely fun or absolutely fucking unbearable. ah guess hes ah So serious, like you can't like the jokes go out the window, but he was so serious and he just, you know, so we let him win.
01:09:36
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, come on, we were joking the whole time.
01:09:45
echo_blades
Rick, I want to just commend you on your humility and understanding that my buddy is, you know, very serious about these things and
01:09:45
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, shit.
01:09:55
echo_blades
You know, so we did a good deed. but It's called paying it forward, Dennis.
01:09:58
tyrellknifeworks
OK,
Weekend Gratitude and Scenic Drives
01:09:59
echo_blades
You know, you give when you you don't have to.
01:09:59
tyrellknifeworks
OK.
01:10:02
tyrellknifeworks
If you want to send you or Rick want to send me some audio clips that you want included in the video, then send me some audio clips.
01:10:11
echo_blades
Yeah, you have to bleep the whole thing.
01:10:16
tyrellknifeworks
I can do that.
01:10:17
echo_blades
Yes.
01:10:18
tyrellknifeworks
ah So folks, if you want to see this, tune into my Triple T video this Thursday. You'll get to see all the shenanigans and us having fun and really appreciate Rick for having us for the weekend and both Jared and Rick were good sports. ah Yeah.
01:10:38
echo_blades
Yeah, it was a good time. In all seriousness, it was a lot of fun. I think making, uh, making the knives was, was super fun. It was cool. I mean, for, for me, like I said, you know, I think that's one of the cool things about how, what we do here is, you know, the dynamic of you being more experienced to me, not, but having Rick Hall and Dennis Terrell, uh, in your corner while you're, you know, using the power hammer for the first time and, He shot us some different ways to grind some bevels and clips, showed us some cool stuff that I'm sure Dennis and I will be talking about in future. ah But it was an amazing time. I learned a ton just from talking with you guys. you know so um And like you said, Deborah and Rick were amazing hosts. and
01:11:26
echo_blades
And mom too, she was awesome. She's a little fire pluck. I like, I just, the whole weekend was really cool. And the best part about it guys, it was, it was, it was so chill. I mean, other than Dennis's unbearable time, no, we were competing, but like for the most part though, it was like, it was completely chill. Um, it was hot as. you know what, but, uh, it was such a good time, really decompressing and, you know, just all about chilling out and hanging out with friends and talking knives, which, you know, all, uh, our fellow knife makers know that you just, you get with another maker and you guys just, who, I mean, how many times we sidebar off into some just completely different direction about something that we started and we're like, what the fuck are we doing?
01:12:09
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah.
01:12:13
echo_blades
you know Yeah.
01:12:13
tyrellknifeworks
Constantly. Yeah. But that was the fun part.
01:12:15
echo_blades
Yeah. It was, it was great.
01:12:17
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:12:17
echo_blades
And then we came home.
01:12:19
tyrellknifeworks
I
01:12:19
echo_blades
And on the way home, we took a ah scenic route through through the Sierras, Highway 88 it's called. And i just if for all the shit that we get for being in California, I want to just tell you guys what an absolute stunning, beautiful state. This is minus the people in the politics, but this, this state is just absolutely gorgeous.
01:12:42
tyrellknifeworks
out
01:12:47
echo_blades
I mean, we literally can get through so many different types of terrains and you know, uh, ecosystems and like sceneries from dry desert up in the high altitude down to the beach in four hours down anywhere else you can get that. It was beautiful.
01:13:04
tyrellknifeworks
i agree I was going to say the exact same thing. Like. as much, you know, shit. I talk about California. That was one of the most beautiful drives I've ever done. I think we went through, what do we pass? Like six absolutely gorgeous mountain lakes with pine trees all around and rocky cliffs and like the, the stuff's in movies.
01:13:20
echo_blades
Yep.
01:13:24
echo_blades
Yep.
01:13:26
tyrellknifeworks
Like it was ah spectacular.
01:13:27
echo_blades
Yep. Beautiful.
01:13:29
tyrellknifeworks
So.
01:13:29
echo_blades
Sun was setting. I actually didn't get, so I've traveled a lot from up that way down back to the Bay area. So 108 is another beautiful drive. Same thing. 120 is probably the most beautiful drive and it's, it's gorgeous.
01:13:44
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I thought 80 was better.
01:13:46
echo_blades
One from, from the top down, you've been up to from 395 down.
01:13:47
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. and Yeah. Oh, one 120 120 goes to Yosemite.
01:13:54
echo_blades
Yeah. So from the, from Yosemite Valley up to 395, you're coming down that way.
01:13:54
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah.
01:13:57
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, no, no, sorry. I've never gone past yeah Yosemite.
01:13:59
echo_blades
Oh, Oh my God. That is something you have to do.
01:14:02
tyrellknifeworks
Okay, I know I've never done that.
01:14:03
echo_blades
That is 88. That one is, is, but you get the sun when you're coming down in the evening, the sun setting and you can get blinded the whole way down. It didn't, we, we timed that perfect. I didn't have no sun.
01:14:16
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it was, it was really nice. Except the fact that it poured rain, which we were crying for all weekend.
01:14:24
echo_blades
that was a pitch That was a big middle finger on us as we were coming out of leaving Nevada.
01:14:27
tyrellknifeworks
and the Yeah, for sure. But super fun time.
Work Challenges and Weather Anticipation
01:14:33
tyrellknifeworks
And that was just the the icing on the cake, the beautiful drive home.
01:14:38
echo_blades
Yeah, it was really cool.
01:14:38
tyrellknifeworks
But so what's, what's coming up for you this week? Back to work.
01:14:45
echo_blades
Yeah, that was that work today. Um, got a bunch of people, uh, Not feeling well, so now work.
01:14:53
tyrellknifeworks
yeah What? Family not feeling well? No work.
01:14:56
echo_blades
It's kind of, yeah. So I don't know. Tomorrow's my, uh, my meeting day here. So it might be good, but, uh, yeah, a busy day of work. ah it's It's supposed to be hot, uh, all the way through, I think the end of the week. And then we're actually supposed to get down into the eighties this weekend. So I'm looking forward to that because I have about I have quite a few things on the on the go that I've just not interested in roasting my shop to do. So I'm looking forward to this weekend to get some get some stuff done and get some shop time. And oh, I was going to say to Rick gave me a. ah
01:15:39
echo_blades
After putting us up and are putting me up personally and and putting up with me, ah Rick gave me a beautiful feather billet that i'm maybe this weekend we'll we'll draw that bitch out.
01:15:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that that was to make up for breaking your knife.
01:16:01
echo_blades
It was before he gave it to me before, thankfully.
01:16:02
tyrellknifeworks
He did, he did.
01:16:04
echo_blades
Yeah. Otherwise I'd have been like, no, but that was super
Damascus Work and Secret Projects
01:16:11
echo_blades
awesome. You know, cause I've only ever had the the stuff that I've made um with you. Um, I bought this one piece that I, that knife was, I want, I got to finish that one. Um, that, uh, the German tank from, I think it was demo works, damn demo works.
01:16:27
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
01:16:29
echo_blades
uh with the leo for german tank barrel um ladder that shit's good at that and i only bought it because it was like a steal at blade show west and that was the only time i've ever purchased stuff so i gotta get some baker fours and tool but uh the uh and now i got this piece from from rick so i don't know maybe my mono steel uh declaration may be put on hold because
01:16:31
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:16:48
tyrellknifeworks
Nice.
01:16:52
tyrellknifeworks
Cause you got two, uh, two nice pieces of Damascus to work on.
01:16:56
echo_blades
Yeah. And then I got the basket weave now and oof, I'm stoked.
01:16:59
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:17:00
echo_blades
you
01:17:00
tyrellknifeworks
I got, I'm starting to, starting to knock out some custom orders. I told you that buoy, I've got. three swords coming up.
01:17:09
echo_blades
You're going to forge those things.
01:17:09
tyrellknifeworks
Um, yeah.
01:17:12
echo_blades
You know, what you're going to use
01:17:15
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:17:16
echo_blades
Yeah. Cause I used mine. I have some beautiful, beautiful time for the first time. Actually the first time was with, uh, for the copper scoop, but I got to swing my fat pain around, uh, this weekend up in Nevada. You know, it's oddly enough is the only time I've used my two bastards, uh, fat cross pain or straight pain is outside of California. Once in Florida and once in Nevada,
01:17:41
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, ob we bring it to maker camp.
01:17:45
echo_blades
Yeah, and that's probably the next time I do it. Cause I got to get the, the induction force thing is still pissing me off, but yeah, I don't want to burn my house down.
01:17:53
tyrellknifeworks
You know you do have an Apollo Forge.
01:17:58
echo_blades
You saw the last time I set that thing on.
01:18:03
tyrellknifeworks
ah Would you like me to show you how to light it?
01:18:03
echo_blades
that ah Yeah, that would be nice because that was the inspiration of that big fireball thing at the foundry. It was me telling that story of me freaking blowing my fucking and camera pod off.
01:18:17
tyrellknifeworks
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01:18:56
echo_blades
We partner with the best and we are supported by the best and we appreciate you.
01:19:02
tyrellknifeworks
And two bastards is also a sponsor of the upcoming apocalyptic challenge. So stayed.
01:19:08
echo_blades
Wow.
01:19:10
tyrellknifeworks
Stay tuned next week. You guys are going to hear about the apo apocalyptic challenge.
01:19:18
echo_blades
Very cool. Very cool.
01:19:20
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. So sometime next week, you're going to hear about it.
01:19:22
echo_blades
So what are you making? What are you making?
01:19:26
tyrellknifeworks
I can't tell you.
01:19:27
echo_blades
What do you mean you can't tell me? We wanna know. Look, I'm speaking for the the five people here.
01:19:32
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, no, I am not letting this one out of the bag this time ah because you guys are just going to shit on me. I am going to make something nice. You will see sand
01:19:41
echo_blades
You wanna know something funny, Dennis? Before we get out of here, you wanna know something funny? You started, Jeff's been helping you with the, um the sand shark, right?
01:19:52
tyrellknifeworks
jacks, which are back in stock, by the way, get your sand truck back in stock.
01:19:54
echo_blades
And so I've been busting it. Ooh. Get your zone to railmyworks.com. Get all your sand shark goods for all your sanding needs. Straight lines, crooked lines. um Yeah. and So I was texting him the other day. I was like, Hey, remember me?
01:20:15
echo_blades
ah Basically what I'm saying is like, I miss you friend. Like quit fucking around with Dennis.
01:20:18
tyrellknifeworks
You know remember me the guy that doesn't pay you for stuff He told me already Yeah, he's bringing it to me tomorrow
01:20:21
echo_blades
Yeah. You know, the one that just was your lifelong friend and supported you through thick and thin and you know, but, uh, he fucking asshole texts me on the way home. Hey, i just listen to the podcast. You want me to bring Dennis a piece of that steel?
01:20:38
echo_blades
I was like, you mother. Yeah, please. Cause I'm not going over there to bring it to. That's cool. Well, yeah you're welcome.
01:20:52
tyrellknifeworks
All right, man. ah You got anything else you want to talk about?
01:20:56
echo_blades
No, I think we paid all our bills. Um, and. I got two, I got two things, but I think we'll, we'll table them for, for next week.
01:21:09
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, all right.
Podcast Conclusion and Teasers
01:21:10
echo_blades
Cause one of them is an absolute gem guys. My buddy Dennis just never ceases to amaze me. Maybe next week I will share it with you, but you're going to have to tune into the triple D podcast on all your podcast streaming, uh, places.
01:21:27
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, a cliffhanger.
01:21:29
echo_blades
That's right.
01:21:31
tyrellknifeworks
All right, we're done. See you later, folks.
01:21:36
echo_blades
Oh, you screwed me up right there, dude.
01:21:37
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I just hit the button twice.
01:21:44
echo_blades
but and po by but dude but but up And that's a wrap.