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E20: Blade show shenanigans

E20 · Triple-T for Knife Makers
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In this slightly late episode we recap our Blade Show 2024 and the post-show shenanigans!  Definitely a great time so come listen and hear allabout it!

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Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
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Transcript

Introduction to Echo Blades and Triple T Podcast

00:00:18
tyrellknifeworks
oh
00:00:18
echo_blades
What's up everybody. This is Jared from Echo blades and you are listening to the triple T podcast for knife makers. We are fresh. We'll kind of dragon still a little bit from our blade show and adventures afterwards, but we are here. As always, I got my buddy Dennis Terrell from Terrell knife works and, uh, AKA a ghost cause I have not talked to you since we left. So how the hell are you buddy?

Post-travel Reflections and Health

00:00:47
tyrellknifeworks
I am probably about 10 pounds heavier after after Mexico and feeding my face and drinking and just all the shenanigans, but I'm doing good.
00:01:00
echo_blades
Well, that's, I'm good, I'm good, I'm sick.
00:01:00
tyrellknifeworks
What about you?
00:01:03
echo_blades
um Feeling kind of human today after some ah less than good times. But the good thing was through it all, um i Flew out of Florida on Friday morning and I was not sick did the cross-country ah flight deal um Got home and to my great planning um I've lived in the Bay Area California my entire life and somehow I decided it was a great idea to book my arrival back home Friday evening at 3 p.m. From San Francisco
00:01:51
tyrellknifeworks
So yeah, just sit in traffic for like two hours.
00:01:53
echo_blades
I had two hours and 20 minutes of, oh my God, I hate myself, um, home. So I landed at, everything was kind of delayed. I landed at like four o'clock and, um, I didn't walk in the door until seven o'clock.
00:02:11
tyrellknifeworks
Bummer.
00:02:12
echo_blades
Yeah. And then two hours later. I mean, we give it two hours and 20 minutes. Um, I took a phone call and went outside and did a couple of like laps around my block and came back inside and I was instantly sick. Like I felt it. I got stuffed up. I thought it was just like back in California allergies type thing. No. And then I proceeded to sleep from Friday till Sunday.
00:02:38
tyrellknifeworks
That sucks, so you you were sick all weekend.
00:02:41
echo_blades
all weekend. I got no, it was bummer, dude, because I, I mean, I had a great time um and I'm sure we'll get into it. ah But one thing I didn't really, well, I learned a lot from this trip, right? But one thing um ah that kind of hit me about, I don't know, Tuesday-ish in Florida was, you know, how much I miss home and and the family um because I worked my ass off like four days prior to leaving. So um I was gone for like seven, seven days complete gone and plus the four days. So it just felt like I hadn't seen ah the family in a long time. And when I got back, I got sick and you know, we were just, they were like, oh great, you're back. So, but it was cool. All, all good.
00:03:40
echo_blades
And now I'm enjoying my Waterloo sparkling water summer berry edition. Cheers.
00:03:48
tyrellknifeworks
Nice. Yeah. Where do we

Blade Show Insights and Travel Stories

00:03:50
tyrellknifeworks
start? I think we need to, uh, talk about blade show itself since, uh, well, obviously we missed last week because we were both too busy doing other things, me out of the country and you out of the state.
00:04:01
echo_blades
Yep.
00:04:03
tyrellknifeworks
So, uh, yeah, but Oh yeah, that's true.
00:04:05
echo_blades
I was out of the country. I was in Florida.
00:04:09
tyrellknifeworks
It is a different country than California for sure.
00:04:14
tyrellknifeworks
But, uh, yeah, blade show went off like a, Like a blast. Um, I think the first thing that we realized is it's much better getting there early on Thursday.
00:04:27
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:04:28
tyrellknifeworks
That was first realization because every other year I've either come in Friday morning or I've come in late Thursday. Um, but coming in, it sucks that it was the red eye, but we took the red eye. We got in early Thursday morning. ah We got to take the flight with, ah we flew out from here to Seattle, met Mareko in Seattle, went and had a few drinks and kind of was shooting the shit with him for a little while and then got on the plane. And then kind of did you sleep on the plane? I didn't sleep on the plane, not a wink.
00:05:07
echo_blades
Like my sleeping on the plane is I am so tired, right? And I'm just going to close my eyes and I know I'm going to fall asleep and I will, I'll fall asleep and I'll swear it's been the longest, deepest sleep of my life. And I wake up and I still have four hours and 36 minutes left on the plate because I've slept like fucking 40 seconds. It's the worst dude.
00:05:31
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, at least you felt like you slept. I have the opposite problem. I can't sleep and I feel like I haven't slept.
00:05:40
echo_blades
Yeah, I don't know. It's just like a quick blank. It's not even a power nap. But yeah, no, no sleeping. That was a bummer. Moreco and I kept just kind of glancing over each other. Like, is this done yet? Because I ended up, it was funny, because I i didn't book my seats on the on the ah for the flight until the very last second. And then I was really concerned, because I'm a big guy, I would have a full panic attack if I got stuck in the middle seat in a four and a half hour flight, you know, across country. So I need the aisle, but um I was able to secure a seat. But
00:06:20
echo_blades
Um, it didn't register. So I walked all the way back and there was some dude sitting in the seat that I was supposed to sit in. And I asked the the flight attendant and the dude's like, well, what's your name? And I was like, you know, it's Jared. And he goes, Oh no, you're way up front. So I secured as an aisle seat and it just happened to be in the aisle next to Morocco. Um, you know, uh, yeah.
00:06:39
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, really? Well, that was good.
00:06:40
echo_blades
Yeah. So, um, didn't get to chat though. There was some dude in in the middle of us that was. causing problems for us, but whatever.
00:06:50
echo_blades
I think Mureko was going to whoop him, but.
00:06:53
tyrellknifeworks
Why was he just like, wouldn't you shut up?
00:06:55
echo_blades
Oh, he was just you know, he just was like moving and, but you know, bumping him and like, yeah, he's just it's a shitty flight, dude.
00:07:04
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that well, any of those long flights.
00:07:07
echo_blades
Yeah, when we got off, he was like, I was like, hey, calm down, buddy. But ah yeah, a shitty flight. But we did, man. We got in at ah and about 7 o'clock. And then we met Gabe from Anchorage Forge was there. um And then we kind of went our ways and did our thing. But it was cool getting there, being able to set up on Thursday, as opposed to the past ah two years. No matter what time we got there, we still had to set up Friday morning.
00:07:37
echo_blades
And that's just like a rush and a bummer.
00:07:38
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was good. And we got, we got to check into the hotel a little early. Um, I did like the hotel we were at. It was pretty nice. I mean, I didn't, I didn't hate it. And yeah.
00:07:49
echo_blades
No, I didn't have any issues. I think the Waverly would be the, the best.
00:07:53
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:07:54
echo_blades
Um, I hope we, we figure that out for next year, but now this was.
00:07:58
tyrellknifeworks
If not the Waverly, the Sheridan, that'd be my, my, my choice now would be Waverly one, Sheraton two, the Hampton, we are at three. and anything else for.
00:08:08
echo_blades
Yeah, that will. Yeah, it it was not bad, but man, I. I figured out my limit of being sleep deprived and it was, you know, sleeping like two or three hours for four days up to a, a red eye complete, you know, 24 hour, no sleep. Cause midday Thursday, I was walking around to people and I was just like, I don't know who you are. I don't know who I am. I don't know what I'm doing. I just need to go take a nap.
00:08:37
tyrellknifeworks
Was that before the nap in the hotel or was that after?
00:08:39
echo_blades
Yeah, that was before the nap.
00:08:40
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, okay.
00:08:40
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:08:41
tyrellknifeworks
ah You would part.
00:08:41
echo_blades
Finally. Yeah, me and Parker were like, dude, that's is this fucking thing ready? Because I'm about to lose it.
00:08:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. You two were like, you know, not, not dumb and dumber, grumpy and grumpier.
00:08:55
echo_blades
Yeah, it was it was something else.
00:08:59
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. But it all worked out. And then the, the. We didn't really, would

Pre-Show Festivities and Knife Events

00:09:04
tyrellknifeworks
we? Oh yeah. We went over to, um, uh, Neil Warren's Airbnb that night and, uh, after getting a little bit of sleep and, uh, hung out with everybody there, had some barbecue and that was really fun. Good to see everybody. I kind of little pre-show party.
00:09:21
echo_blades
We had Tomales.
00:09:23
tyrellknifeworks
I love tamales and they were really good.
00:09:26
echo_blades
Yeah. Thank you, Ed.
00:09:28
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:09:28
echo_blades
Ed Sola helped out with that. And, uh, Neil, thank you for having us, man. That was a great time. Good people, good conversation, good chats. Got to meet, uh, Frank and Nita for the first time there.
00:09:37
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:09:41
echo_blades
They actually were. pulling up and I, and I'd never met him, but, uh, you know, I'd seen pictures of them and they kind of were driving up to the front of the house and they started asking like, is this deals?
00:09:45
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:09:52
echo_blades
And I was like, no, no, man, keep it pushing. Keep it going. Oh,
00:09:56
tyrellknifeworks
ah they They didn't get who you were first?
00:09:58
echo_blades
oh they took a second. And then he was like, Oh, I told him to pull on it. And that was cool. So great guy, man. Frank, it was great to meet you, dude. Uh, just ah awesome. and And your wife too was just fantastic people and good vibes. So, but that, that night was really cool. Great way to start it off. Like, you know, um, we've done the past couple of years. So that was cool.
00:10:22
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, you know, that was good. And there was a lot of people there too.
00:10:25
echo_blades
Yeah, there was a, there was a lot.
00:10:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. A lot of people. I think, I think that's getting bigger every year too.
00:10:29
echo_blades
Yeah, for sure.
00:10:31
tyrellknifeworks
But yeah,
00:10:31
echo_blades
And it's just, just cool, man. Just easy going, you know, you, you, you're bumping into people, breaking the ice, you know, it's been a while since you've seen everybody. and Um, so I had a great time.
00:10:44
tyrellknifeworks
yeah, it was good. And then, um, yeah, Friday morning, had it over. It was nice. We didn't have to, like my, The bag that I brought all the knives in, which was like, I ended up buying a big, um one of those hard case golf bags, cause I had to bring the sword. So it was kind of nice to have a big bag like that. That never left the showroom. I'd never had to take it back to the hotel. So that was cool. um That was good. Uh, but, um, yeah, we, we were all set up.
00:11:15
tyrellknifeworks
We just showed up Friday morning and threw the knives on the table and, you know, everything got going.
00:11:22
echo_blades
Yeah, it did.
00:11:24
tyrellknifeworks
But, uh, yeah, it was, it was good. Um, you know, walking around, I mean, it, you know, I wouldn't say it felt bigger this year, but, um, you know, I don't know. What what did you, expect it was it any different than you expected this year? Like the show wise, like size or anything like that.
00:11:43
echo_blades
No, the size was about good or not good, but the same to me. Um, I think it was. It was a really weird to be there on Thursday before, or when it was empty and they were still kind of setting up.
00:11:59
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah.
00:12:01
echo_blades
I did a couple of like stories or posts about like, you know, the calm before the storm. And I just did it like a little pano of the, of the the main room. And it was just all white tables, you know? And I was just like, this is crazy. Cause in like a few hours, this place is going to be completely transformed into something, you know, insane. So that was cool.
00:12:21
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. What I did, what threw me on Thursday is you get there and like the carpets aren't even down. The tables are there, but the carpets between the tables aren't there.
00:12:27
echo_blades
No.
00:12:29
tyrellknifeworks
And that felt really weird. Like it looks so much different.
00:12:31
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:12:33
tyrellknifeworks
Like if you've just been to blade show and you never been there Thursday, it looks so much different. Cause the, when they put the carpets down, it just looks so much more finished.
00:12:39
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:12:42
echo_blades
Yeah, and they they put that thing into shape quick because it was like concrete floors and tables and then one quick nap and it was all up and going.
00:12:43
tyrellknifeworks
Um,
00:12:52
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I was racing around Friday morning trying to distribute the um the coins for the the scavenger hunt.
00:13:05
echo_blades
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:13:05
tyrellknifeworks
So we find we finally got all those put out um and got things going. For some reason, IG screwed up my my posts. i don't I don't know what happened, but a couple of the hints didn't go out when they were supposed to on Saturday. but um We had a lot of people doing it, which was fun. i'm
00:13:26
echo_blades
Yeah, dude. So again, all right, everybody. I gotta do what I don't like to do and I'm gonna do it because like I said, if I'm anything, i'm ah I'm honest. But that turned out really cool. Like, I don't ever really hope things bomb for you. I just want everybody to know. But in the deepest dark, my evil is self. Like, I think it would be funny if No one even did anything, but it was really cool, man.
00:13:57
echo_blades
Seeing the excitement of people coming up, trying to figure it out. And has anybody found it yet? And, you know, it was really cool, man. It was a great idea. I think that was awesome. It added a little bit of, uh, to the, you know, I don't know if it's monotony, but you know, it broke things up a little bit. So that was cool.
00:14:14
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:14:14
echo_blades
Good job.
00:14:15
tyrellknifeworks
it And for those of you listening, they've never gone to blade show as an attendee. Like I, you know, I've been to blade shows and attendee. I've been to blade show, Texas. And if you're there for a whole weekend, I'll be honest after a couple of hours, my feet are killing me. I I've seen, but you know, you end up doing the circuit a bunch of times. Cause I always things you miss, but by like the third or fourth circuit of walking around, You're like, I wouldn't say you get bored, but you need something else to occupy yourself than other just going to.
00:14:52
tyrellknifeworks
So I felt like this was hopefully something, oh, it's something different. I'm looking for something else besides just knives that I want to, you know, I want to look at or stuff like that. But anyway, that was my thought.
00:15:02
echo_blades
Yeah. No, I think you you you did a good job because definitely there were some people that were excited and and that was cool to see.
00:15:14
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. So the it started, I told everyone that there was 28 letters. So there was 28 coins. had' Each had a letter on them. um I think a couple of the tables that I put coins at either didn't understand or I didn't maybe explained it enough. And I think they either took the coin away or didn't like it or I don't know, or someone visited the table and took the coin and you weren't supposed to take the coin, you're just supposed to write it down or take a picture of it or whatever.
00:15:49
tyrellknifeworks
Because I went back to a few tables that I know had coins or had been given coins and then I didn't see them on the table.
00:15:56
echo_blades
Oh.
00:15:56
tyrellknifeworks
But after um after the 28th, the next hint was that, what was the next hint? Oh, that it was a song title. And then I think that was Friday. And then Saturday morning, it was a song title by a Canadian artist. And then the last hint was the, the song has the word, the lyrics have the word and the song has the word knife in it. Oh, and it was a Canadian artist. Sorry. It was, yeah, it was a song titled by a Canadian artist. And that's when everyone, a lot of people got it after that.
00:16:36
tyrellknifeworks
And it was Brian Adams cuts like a knife and it feels so right was the whole, the whole 28 characters. but
00:16:47
echo_blades
Can't recall I've ever heard the song, but people knew it.
00:16:50
tyrellknifeworks
um I'm sure you've heard it. Google it. I'm sure you've heard it.
00:16:52
echo_blades
Nah. Dumb choice.
00:16:57
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, look, we're not all Swifties like you are.
00:17:00
echo_blades
like Hey. Shake it off.
00:17:05
tyrellknifeworks
See, you knew that one.
00:17:08
echo_blades
That's funny.
00:17:09
tyrellknifeworks
But I'll tell you when, when, uh, probably, I think it was 10 minutes after that clean one out, we saw who ended up winning.
00:17:10
echo_blades
um
00:17:20
tyrellknifeworks
Like I saw them from about 40 feet away, walking towards the table, like on a mission, like they were running towards the table to tell us the, uh, the winning phrase and, uh, and they won a, they won a knife. So. We ended up giving away.
00:17:35
echo_blades
and And... Go ahead.
00:17:37
tyrellknifeworks
No, no. What were you going to say?
00:17:39
echo_blades
I was going to say, in and I cannot believe the odds of what happened in the timing that it happened was these people came flying to the table, jumping up and down, like screaming the song lyrics this, oh, yeah, yeah, you got it right. And here comes Noah from any ah River Forge. cruising by nonchalantly like I'm talking two minutes maybe a minute to two minutes at the most walks by and says The answer and we're like Dude, they they're they're like taking a picture or picking out the knife.
00:18:20
echo_blades
It was that close no one else had come near and no one else that even took a shot at it and Then the people that got it and then Noah comes creeping up like a couple like a minute later, dude.
00:18:22
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:18:32
echo_blades
I was like, oh my god, that is Such horrible timing, dude.
00:18:37
tyrellknifeworks
um But I ended up giving away sharpening attachments too, which would have been second and third, but Noah's already got a sharpening system, so he didn't want one. um yeah so uh, third and fourth, I guess, uh, the places that came up and told me the answer mainly because I wasn't planning on giving those away, but I did not want to take them home.
00:18:57
echo_blades
ah Yeah, you were. it was It was all out of the kindness of your heart. It was not about luggage weight. Get out of here, dude.
00:19:08
tyrellknifeworks
Those things are 11 pounds a piece. There's no way I was taking those home.
00:19:11
echo_blades
No, that's cool. That's good for everybody that participated and and and got a chance to win. I think it was awesome. i didn't I didn't care to know the answer because like somebody came up to me and was like, Hey, you know, like, give me a hand. I was like, I don't fucking know. So I mean, I'll take your money or whatever, but no, I'm, nobody offered me money. I'm kidding.
00:19:34
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, but, uh, we had some other shenanigans happen in the pit.
00:19:35
echo_blades
But yeah, what happened in it? You try to get me drunk or something.
00:19:45
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, no, I'm not even referring to that.
00:19:46
echo_blades
No, I know.
00:19:47
tyrellknifeworks
That wasn't my fault.
00:19:48
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:19:51
tyrellknifeworks
Um, no, I had a little fun with Jared in the pit. Um, I had planned a, uh, um, I had a ah Hawaiian shirt made with Jared's face all over it, which I thought was fucking hilarious, especially the look on your face.
00:20:09
echo_blades
yeah
00:20:10
tyrellknifeworks
So I went to the bathroom, put it on, and then I'm just standing beside Jared waiting for him to notice, and everybody else is laughing at this point.
00:20:18
echo_blades
Yeah, I didn't, didn't pick up on it for a second. I looked, I'm like, whoa, that's me.
00:20:27
tyrellknifeworks
ah it was It was worth the look on your face and everybody else's.
00:20:27
echo_blades
Uh,
00:20:32
echo_blades
um'm um'm I'm glad it brought joy to your heart. I mean, it was a little lightweight, creepy, like I said, but I was like, and so I sent a picture to my wife and she's like, what the fuck?
00:20:35
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:20:44
echo_blades
And I go, I think he's trying to say he loves me. No.
00:20:51
echo_blades
No, it was cool.
00:20:52
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah, that was...
00:20:53
echo_blades
I was flattered. I had never, that's never happened. I never in a million years would imagine there'd be a shirt that with my face all over it.
00:21:01
tyrellknifeworks
Well, you can have it now. I don't really have much of a need for it anymore that now that I pulled off the joke.
00:21:07
echo_blades
Yeah, you're sleeping with it. You know, you are.
00:21:11
tyrellknifeworks
i did I did wear it for a picture in Mexico.
00:21:14
echo_blades
Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. No, I don't want it. That's yours forever. Cause, uh, it, it's, there you go.
00:21:19
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, it'll it'll come out at the next blade show, for sure.
00:21:22
echo_blades
There you go. There'll be your staple there. It'll be like, uh, um, Sharky's purple jacket.
00:21:29
tyrellknifeworks
Right. Yeah.
00:21:31
echo_blades
Yeah. No, that was, that was funny. Um, what else?

Success Stories and Sales Skills

00:21:38
echo_blades
How'd you do?
00:21:40
tyrellknifeworks
What, at the show?
00:21:42
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:21:43
tyrellknifeworks
That was ah probably, not probably, that was definitely ah the best, monetarily the best show that I've had. And we talked about, it's so funny because we talked about, you know, I had the plan, what I was going to do, what I thought was going to sell. total opposite. Every everything that I thought was going to happen ah did not happen. um But in a good way, the first thing that sold in the first shit, I think it was the first two hours was the most expensive knife on the table minus the sword, which I was not expecting um that sold the first day. And then that kind of just broke the ice. And after that, um yeah, I mean, all of the
00:22:29
tyrellknifeworks
Custom knives I'd say that I'm um that I brought every one of them was sold so that was great and then a couple of the EDC's but um Yeah, and I was thinking the EDC's we're gonna sell more so Yeah, it might change my it might change my view um Next year on what I bring
00:22:54
echo_blades
and It'll switch again. I mean, it's hard to put your finger on it. You got to strike gold with, you know, the right, uh, vibe of, of people's, you know, intent, but that's good.
00:23:00
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:23:05
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. But all, all of those were kind of unique knives. So maybe that's the the key there that more unique and less like everyone else's. So the ones that stand out are the ones that sold I'd say maybe that's the key.
00:23:17
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, but the the custom shit you do is what people like from you, you know?
00:23:27
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:23:33
tyrellknifeworks
I tell you, it was really fun having Parker there.
00:23:34
echo_blades
and
00:23:37
tyrellknifeworks
um Seeing him interact with people like my son's just 18 and he's not like the most outgoing person so getting him into that situation where he has to talk to people and like interact with people Um, but he did so well and he sold a few knives on his own and it was just really fun having him there. So, uh, that made me smile.
00:24:02
echo_blades
Yeah, he was giving. He was given discounts, too.
00:24:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, a little too much a couple of times.
00:24:12
tyrellknifeworks
and At one point though I was going to like pull them aside.
00:24:14
echo_blades
and
00:24:16
tyrellknifeworks
I'm like, don't offer a discount if they're willing to pay the full price. right like
00:24:21
echo_blades
Yeah. No, I will say that. I mean, I've been around Parker a lot. over the past couple of years, right? And, um, it's not that I was worried, but you know, I guess you bring anybody that's young, like you said, and doesn't have the experience with, you know, the social overload that blade show is. Um, I was super proud. I made sure to, to, to tell him a handful of times that, you know, I was very proud of him. He did super good. He talked well, he interacted.
00:24:56
echo_blades
I think we asked him, you know, not to be on the phone and, you know, to, you know, to just do the things that we're supposed to do behind the table. And he did everything well, a good attitude. And like I said, he was fucking selling his ass off. So, um, talking and and pushing.
00:25:09
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:25:10
echo_blades
So um I was super, super proud of him too, man. You should definitely be, be happy. That was cool.
00:25:16
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:18
echo_blades
It was cool to watch you guys do your thing too.
00:25:18
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, yeah.
00:25:19
echo_blades
You know what I mean? That was cool.
00:25:22
tyrellknifeworks
But I mean, he tapped out pretty early Friday night from the pit, but he hung out, he hung out Saturday. He, I think he, won I really think he wanted the waffle house experience. I think that's why he hung around. So
00:25:33
echo_blades
Yeah. I know he kept bugging me while I was like talking to people like, Hey, Jared, you ready to go? out Yeah.
00:25:40
tyrellknifeworks
okay
00:25:41
echo_blades
As soon as I'm done here, dude.
00:25:46
echo_blades
No, it was good, man. That was, that was no, no weird times. No, you know, awkward moments. It was, it was cool. It was good. A good time.
00:25:55
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, and I mean there was one point where we we're outside Having drinks around the ah table. It was a Donnie's table. Is that who it is? Who's who brought that Donnie, right?
00:26:04
echo_blades
yeah Yeah, Dulevich.
00:26:07
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, so we're That was
00:26:07
echo_blades
Shout out, Donny. What's up, bro? That was awesome time.
00:26:11
tyrellknifeworks
So we're standing around the table. We've got Trollski there, where we're talking with Toby was there, Toby Merle from Fire and Steel. um Will Stelter came by. And I think, you know, Parker definitely thought that was pretty cool with all these names coming by and having a drink. And we were tonight at dinner, actually, we were him and I were just talking about how much he doesn't like his Scotch now. Cause he tried a little bit of scotch and didn't realize how smoky and PD it is.
00:26:46
tyrellknifeworks
And he said it was lit his throat on fire. So I thought that was funny, but, but good times.
00:26:51
echo_blades
yeah
00:26:54
tyrellknifeworks
It was great. That was one of my favorite parts of the show. Just hanging out and you know, we, we had some, actually we have some good barbecue. There was so many good times. Um, the guys from, uh, Toby and the guys from Australia and, you know, it was, it was great.
00:27:11
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:13
tyrellknifeworks
And then we wrapped up and I left what, you know, how did the trip down to Florida go?
00:27:19
echo_blades
It went good, but I did want to talk about like for me, um, as a, as a newer maker experiencing blade show, I did bring a few knives. Um, what I learned was that I need to prepare better. Um, the things that I wanted to bring, um, I think would have done better. Um, I had a lot of people. picking stuff up and, and, you know, messing around with it and coming back and, or I'll be back.

Lessons Learned as a New Maker

00:27:52
echo_blades
I didn't have sheets done that cost a couple, um, you know, sales for me.
00:27:55
tyrellknifeworks
Mmm
00:27:57
echo_blades
Um, I always joke, you know, um, if you guys don't know, so. Dennis, obviously we go together. He's gracious enough to let me have a you know a little spot to to to show and and try to sell a couple of my ah pieces of my work. um And then I have ah Seth Lopez next to me, um who's you know ah winning awards at Blade Show for Best Knives. and And I got Dennis on my left and him on my right. It is not the best business model for you know somebody
00:28:33
echo_blades
like myself. I joke saying that, right? Because you get a lot of people coming and looking and it's humbling, you know, hey, look at the oh, shit, look at the copper. Oh, oh, my God. Look at this thing. So um but I did learn that, you know, I'm finding my wheelhouse and ah yeah if I would have prepared better, um I think I would have done a little better. um And
00:29:01
echo_blades
like it's It's a humbling experience, right? Because you try not to have expectations while you go. Because I think Dennis has said it a bunch of times, it's blade shows, probably the worst place to go to try to to sell knives, right? I mean, there's never more competition um and more options for for buyers in that place, right? But you got to put yourself out there and you got to do it, you know, so I learned a lot. It was it was a ah it was a humbling experience. But yet, ah through it all more motivating than anything, right? If, you know, I do my part next year, um I feel like my chances for, you know, success, if it's measured in moving product, you know, will be a little bit better. So.
00:29:46
echo_blades
Um, and I say that for all the people that are considering trying to, for all the insecure makers that are, you know, questioning whether their work is worthy. Um, if they have what it takes to try to show their stuff, to, to get a table, to not get a table, to try to help, to have the opportunity like I do. um I just want to encourage you all to take the chance and and the opportunity or make the opportunity for yourself to go out there and just fucking do it because you know, um I brought four knives. um I sold one. And
00:30:23
echo_blades
that's a win. But even if I didn't, that's okay too, right? It's it's all about the the process of trying and and being confident enough to even just show your stuff out there because you know, there's a lot of people who are going to come by and look at your stuff, right? And we're all I feel anyways, I could just stay for myself, you know, that I get incredibly insecure when, you know, some makers that I look up to start looking at my knives and picking them up and like so So it's a it's a it's a it's a horrible feeling but it's also a um you know
00:30:57
echo_blades
uh, a process that we all have to go through. So, um, you know, that's my PSA for, for people that are considering or, you know, on the fence and whether that's for you, you guys, we all have what it takes to, to try, you know, and to do it. And the worst thing that happens is, you know, you go home and you put your shit on your website or whatever and sell it some other time, you know, but, uh, getting, getting out there.
00:31:21
tyrellknifeworks
Exactly.
00:31:22
echo_blades
And so.
00:31:23
tyrellknifeworks
I mean, last last year, I sold one knife last year. Mind you, it was one of my more expensive ones, but one knife and this year was much better. But yeah, I mean, I was, I wouldn't say I was freaking out last year, but until that knife sold, I was not a happy camper. So I get it. I mean, there's, there's good shows and bad shows and you sometimes you just never know how things are going to go. So don't go into the show. counting on sales.
00:31:53
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:31:54
tyrellknifeworks
I think that's the golden rule there, like go to experience it. And you know, if you sell something great, but I, I still don't know the magic formula yet. Um, I think this year helped me a lot, but it certainly is no, there's no silver bullet.
00:32:14
echo_blades
No, and I tell you, it was an emotional fucking roller coaster because I was super happy and confident. And then I was down in the fucking dumpster, like my shit's trash and I don't want to do this. And then somebody would pick it up and be like, oh, yeah. And I'm like, oh, my I had one time where there there was a guy and we were talking and I was, you know, I was trying to do the thing. And I was I was really, really I was fucking damn near positive he was going to, you know, pull the trigger.
00:32:46
echo_blades
And then he put it down and was like, you know, all right, I'll be back. You know, and I'm like, Oh, fuck dude. But my heart was fucking beating fast. Like it took me on a ride, man. And I was like, you know, I used to pay good money for that. Um, and now I just try to sell knives, you know, so I used to look for that stuff in a bag and, you know, but I find all those same, you know, those rushes and those downs, those highs, those lows. I experienced a lot. So. Um, it's not easy, but it is, it's doable and, and I encourage you all to, to get your asses out there and try it.
00:33:18
echo_blades
So, and I told myself if I didn't sell anything, I was going to stop.
00:33:19
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:33:24
echo_blades
Cause I dropped like five or 600 bucks in the first couple hours of the show. Um, You know, if you're not going to see Rob's Wildwood right when you get there, you're missing a chromosome or something because Rob's got the most incredible, uh, you know, uh, scales and, and, and stabilized wood. And, uh, I always drop a, a jewel over there with him and then, um, and Jared from my co, you know, like you just start going.
00:33:56
echo_blades
And then I was like, you know, hey, I'm going to pump the brakes here. um And then actually I actually didn't didn't spend much money after that. I bought a couple of like necessity um items.
00:34:06
tyrellknifeworks
I did.
00:34:07
echo_blades
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. I really intended on buying a knife. um I didn't bring a knife. It was weird because I didn't carry a knife. I didn't have a knife ah the entire trip. That was weird for me.
00:34:20
tyrellknifeworks
I was actually intended on buying because Parker was really wanted to buy the because Microtech usually has the show like their show knife and they didn't have any.
00:34:31
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:34:32
tyrellknifeworks
ah So that's the one because he wanted one. and I figured I would get one. Um, but yeah, so I didn't end up buying a knife. Um, there's, there's a couple I might buy off a website, but, um, the, um, so yeah, I didn't end up buying, but I bought a shit ton of, uh, I lined it up all today on the, uh, when I was doing someone, cause I'm still unpacking from both blade show in Mexico. Uh, and I put all the wood and it was like.
00:35:04
tyrellknifeworks
ah Just lining the blocks up like narrow wise there was like 24 inches of More than that like two and a half feet of blocks um So yeah, I went a little crazy, but Yeah So
00:35:14
echo_blades
Wow. That's good.
00:35:20
echo_blades
Yeah, but yeah, good, good times. The dinner with Brian was cool. Saturday night, like you said, hanging out outside with Donnie and everybody getting to see all the people that we saw all the all the feedback that we got from people from the podcast. You guys are too kind, so gracious. Um, we really appreciate appreciate all the support, um, all the feedback, all the, you know, uh, we're, we're loving the show and for everybody that took the time to, to come and talk to us and see us if we've met you or, or we know you're not, we really appreciate, uh, you stopping by and, um, saying hi and given that, uh, that encouragement, it was, it it felt good.
00:36:05
tyrellknifeworks
yeah Yeah, next year we'll get our asses in gear and make some stickers or do something about the podcast Yeah Why is it my fault I put you in charge of that Hey you
00:36:10
echo_blades
Yeah, for sure. We need to do that. So that's Dennis's fault, by the way.
00:36:19
echo_blades
I don't know. Yeah. You put me in charge of everything with this thing. I take us to the moon and then you drop us down with no stickers. How dare you.
00:36:30
tyrellknifeworks
ah Oh, the the other thing, the one thing that did happen um Saturday night, my my second t-shirt fiasco, um because ah John from Old Hickory Forge, ah the the guy that beat me on the Samurai Challenge, um I ended up making him because John if you don't know at old Hickory Forge always says um Nothing to it really like I feel like he says that at the at the end of every one of his clips He says nothing to it really so I had a shirt made that said that and I did the same thing stood beside him and Nothing to it really and I had a shirt made for him with the same thing on it So I thought that was funny.
00:37:11
tyrellknifeworks
He he got a kick out of it You never saw him.
00:37:11
echo_blades
Did he eventually show up? I never saw him.
00:37:14
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah, I know
00:37:14
echo_blades
No, I never saw him.
00:37:16
tyrellknifeworks
No, yeah, he he I hung with him Saturday night for a couple of hours. Yeah, he he actually did show up.
00:37:20
echo_blades
Okay.
00:37:21
tyrellknifeworks
and In fact, we had his badges because he was supposed to come, um but they were he was trying to finish off this big order this big um commercial order he had for a bunch of axes.
00:37:24
echo_blades
Oh yeah. That's right.
00:37:33
tyrellknifeworks
So he was busy finishing those um and getting those delivered and just ended up getting to the show later than he had wanted. So he ended up getting there Saturday afternoon, like late afternoon, like four o'clock, three o'clock, four o'clock, something like that.
00:37:52
echo_blades
Nice.
00:37:53
tyrellknifeworks
But it was good to see him and chit chat.
00:37:55
echo_blades
Yeah, I ah I made a point to get outside on Saturday night to to go hang out with Donnie at that at the table because um on Friday, I kind of called it early um and I called an Uber and then I was on one side of the the carport or the port of whatever that thing is called. um And I got in my Uber and I had forgot something inside. So I told the Uber driver, you know, Hey, can you hold on one second? I ran back into lobby and grabbed something and came back. And then he had went to the other side and then I walked by and there's Donnie out with Brandon and, you know, and Noah and a whole bunch of other people were outside and I was like, what the fuck? like I didn't know you guys were out there. And he's like, Oh shit, dude, we've been here all night. I never, never even went inside. So I made sure to go hang out with them on Saturday after I missed that. So I spent all night out there. Um,
00:38:47
echo_blades
The one thing I did want to say was that um we all got to to meet Bob Gore and ah that was really cool to meet him. But on Thursday at Neil's house, I had a conversation with the gentleman who is obviously Bob Gore's doppelganger. And I shook his hand. I had a whole fucking conversation about how good it was finally to meet him. And, you know, and the guy's kind of like blinking and nodding at me like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not really saying much back. And I was like, Oh, I guess Bob's not much of a fucking talker. That's, you know, he, he messages a lot, but he's not much for words. Um, it went about my fucking business. And then on Saturday, he comes up to the table and
00:39:37
echo_blades
You know, introduces himself to me and I, and we started chatting. I'm like, Bob, I fucking talked to you last night. He's like, I wasn't there last night. I was talking to Matt Baker's dad.
00:39:47
tyrellknifeworks
you
00:39:49
tyrellknifeworks
who barely speaks English.
00:39:49
echo_blades
Uh, he speaks enough. I, I, he does, but it was loud and I just, I don't, I just thought he was some crazy Mexican was fucking talking to him. Like I, like you knew him.
00:40:03
echo_blades
But fuck man. i And I was like, Oh, my mind was blown on, on, on Friday morning. I was like, Bob, you were not there last night. He goes, no, I just got here this morning. I was like, I i don't know. It just blew my mind. I met Bob Gore twice guys. So that's, that's the story. AKA Matt Bigger's dad.
00:40:24
tyrellknifeworks
yeah Right. ah Yeah, you told me that the next morning. And I think I was the one that told you, yeah, Bob wasn't there last night.
00:40:32
echo_blades
Yeah, maybe that's what it was. Yeah. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? But they looked alike, right?
00:40:37
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, yeah. i went went once Once I understood who you were talking about, that it was Matt's dad. I'm mean like, okay, yeah, he does. He doesn't look like
00:40:46
echo_blades
Yeah. So funny stuff, but, uh,
00:40:51
tyrellknifeworks
All right. So how was the trip to Florida? I want to know. I wanted to, cause I know all this stuff. I know everyone else does, but I know all this stuff. I want to hear what happened after the show.
00:41:04
echo_blades
All right, guys, that's a great show. Thank you for listening. We'll be back next week with some more entertainment and after Dennis tells you about Mexico. No, man, it was absolutely a fantastic time.

Adventures and Learning Experiences in Florida

00:41:21
echo_blades
um ah Nothing like I had. Not that we had expectations, but it turned out completely different. I mean, for reasons outside of our control but um you know on Sunday we finished out the show um and I hopped in in the car with Brent and his buddies John and Dave and we drove whatever the fucking million hours it is down to Florida that drive still is deceiving to me like when I think about it it doesn't feel like it's gonna be nine or ten hours um until
00:42:00
tyrellknifeworks
Was it, is it nine or two I thought it was eight. Was it that long?
00:42:03
echo_blades
No, no, it's like nine or 10 hours.
00:42:06
tyrellknifeworks
Brutal.
00:42:07
echo_blades
Dude, it was a long fucking drive, but it when you're hanging out with people that are cool and when we're chatting and we're all just talking about, you know, about the show and everything. And um it goes it goes by quick. And, you know, a road trip with your buddies is is never a bad time. But um so, yeah, I had this plan with Brent for Um, fuck six months or plus or so, you know, cause I, I, Brent and I are, are real good friends. And I had told him, you know, like, Oh, it'd be cool if we could hang out. Right. But I'm never going to be over on that side. That's the closest I'm going to get. Right. All year long. So, um, we had worked it out, um, to where I was going to go hang out with Brent.
00:42:52
echo_blades
And not not sure what Brian had going on with, you know, if there was another foundry, if there wasn't, um you know, that wasn't really part of our deal um at all. So it's. ah We were going to go and just do our thing and and and hang out. So we got there um just the the tired, the fatigue from, you know, the days of, you know, running hard, uh, you know, um, so we, we didn't do much on, uh, on Monday. Um, just kind of checked in at, at Brian's house. And that's when I, I i saw, um, uh, the DIY
00:43:37
echo_blades
Nordic Edge, the Sausage Man, Toby, they were they were all there. um So we got to do some cool things there in the morning. And then um that was pretty much the MO was like, we checked in there, Brent had to do some work and played around a little bit with those guys. And then Brent and I shook out and did our thing for the remainder of the trip. But it was a fucking blast, dude. like It was, it was really cool. Again, you never, I mean, same thing with the foundry last year where, you know, we know some people, or we know of them, but you don't really know them. And then you have the opportunity to to hang out and talk and and to meet people. And it's just another testament to how awesome this community is and, you know, and how it can transcend continents now. Fuck. That's, it used to be just the country and states and stuff, but now we're going to other countries and shit.
00:44:29
echo_blades
Um, they were all really cool. Toby, um, is, he's actually a really fucking cool dude. I don't know what everybody's talking all this shit about him for it. Toby, I got your back, man. I don't know. I just, I was, you know, lightweight, scared ah to meet this guy. Cause he's such a prick, but no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm totally kidding.
00:44:50
tyrellknifeworks
It's owner as a prick and he's never coming over the US apparently so Oh you hear that Toby only owner makes them laugh you don't
00:44:53
echo_blades
Yeah. And and I. Owner makes me fucking laugh. I really didn't know much about Toby. So I hadn't haven't really listened to the podcast.
00:45:04
echo_blades
Well, I didn't really ever hear or know everything anything of Toby. So um he made me laugh plenty. So good dude, man. It was it was fantastic to meet you, Toby. I had a great time. We had some really good talks and conversations and um you know made a bunch of shit too. So that was cool. ah The weird part was, you know, guys, the fucking humidity is just ridiculous. I don't know how you guys do it over there. It is not. I am born and raised in California. I got all this shit talking about me and my Crocs and, um, you know, blah, blah, blah. I cannot explain to you how wonderful it is that I can walk outside of my door right now and feel the cool, crisp hair of an evening coolness. Right. Every time I walked out of a
00:45:54
echo_blades
door from Atlanta to Florida. It was just like, what that humidity it's I'll get it.
00:46:01
tyrellknifeworks
i That's what I lived the entire last week as well because Cancun was just a hot, sweaty mess. It was ridiculously humid. So i just like Florida, I was hating life last week, um just just the humidity. So I'm with you. Humidity is sucks balls, sweaty balls.
00:46:28
echo_blades
sweaty balls. Yeah, swass, whatever those fucking people say about their wonderful weather. um But to be honest with you, it was not it was not as bad as um it could have been because we had like, ah um'm I'm calling it a lightweight hurricane. But Florida got like the South Southern Western Florida got like 18 inches of rain in two days. And we ended up, um, like 80 degrees with, I don't know how to measure the humidity, but it was, it was humid, but it wasn't as like and normally as, as like 95 and hot and sun beaten down on you. So we got fucking pounded with a lot of rain, like insane amount. So.
00:47:14
echo_blades
Brent's shop ended up taking about eight inches of water, eight inches of water in his shop.
00:47:18
tyrellknifeworks
8 inches.
00:47:22
echo_blades
The first night we were so that kind of, so we went out to the shop one night and um I think it was Tuesday night. Um, we did our, you know, whatever we did. Um, and then, check back in, probably took a nap or something like that. And then we went into the shop, like, this is what we had planned to do was just for him and I to get together to just, you know, talk knives, let me see his process, you know, grind some stuff. And, and we were out there till fucking one o'clock in the morning, just, just absolutely great time, like, just kind of like, you know, so you and I do, you know what I mean?
00:47:54
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:47:55
echo_blades
just hanging out making and and talking and oh I do it this way or you do it that way or here you know and I'm like hey I'm having problems with this and you know so he taught me a bunch of stuff and it was just a just guys I say this all the time cuz you you hear me where I'm always visiting and checking in with other makers but that is by far my favorite thing to do and especially when you're doing it with somebody that's like your buddy and and and your good friend it's just fucking great time but That was the only time that we got to do it because on Wednesday, the fucking shop took like we got back on Wednesday night to the to the house. And I was like, Brent, I can't see the bottom of your door. And he's like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, dude, like is your shop flooded? And he's like, no. And he walks out. He's got to fucking put his crocs on.
00:48:50
echo_blades
and goes wading in the water in the backyard. And he's like, yeah, dude, we're, we're done. It's cash. I got two inches of water in the fucking, in the shop. And I'm like, well, that's a bummer. Cause that just, that's stifled all of our, our, our make that we had cause no, what the fuck do we do now?
00:49:03
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:49:07
echo_blades
So, um, that was a, that was a bummer. And then the next day, um, that was Thursday. Um, It just kept on, kept on raining, kept on raining. And, uh, we were going to see if it, the water went down or whatnot, and it never did. So we had plans. So Brent's. I'm not saying twisted my arm, but he had talked about taking me out to to the Everglades. Cause so what we're gonna, we're gonna fucking message, we message each other, like, you know, send memes of stupid shit all the time. Right. And he'll always send me these fucking Gator videos from people in Florida. I'm like, fuck that.
00:49:51
echo_blades
like I am so not okay with walking down the street and the fucking Gator coming up, you know, anywhere near me, right? And then these Floridians are fucking chasing Gators on the golf course and hitting them with frying pans and like, you know, it's like, it's no big deal. And I'm like, fuck all that mess, you know, not me.
00:50:11
tyrellknifeworks
ah I think Brent told me a week or so a couple of weeks before we even went that he was taking you to a Gator farm.
00:50:19
echo_blades
Yeah. So he's like, he told me, he's like, yeah, we're going to, we're going to go on the, on the, on the airboat. That sounded really cool. That was fucking fantastic. So we snuck out early on Thursday morning. Um, and and, but he got sick like on Tuesday night or Wednesday, he started getting sick and I was just like, wow, fuck dude, here we go. You know, um, there's nothing I could do about it now. Right. It's not like we're going to go our separate ways when I'm fucking staying with him. So, uh, we hopped in the car, went down, did the airboat, uh, airboat tour. That was fucking fantastic. The highlight of my trip, uh,
00:50:59
echo_blades
was, you know, taking videos of me cruising in that airboat and we ended up seeing a gator and um that was pretty cool. And then he tells me he'd been fucking with me from what I understood was he was going to make me hold a gator. Uh, but part of the tour was to go to a gator farm and sure shit, you know, I find myself in line to carry a gator. or So I don't care what you guys say, right? I don't suffer from this whole masculine bullshit of, you know, macho crap, right? They say, all right, we have two lines here. If you want to hold a two pound gator in one line, or you want to hold a 15 pound gator in the other, I took my bitch ass over to the fucking
00:51:43
echo_blades
el
00:51:45
echo_blades
And I was just, he grabs the back of my shirt like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Get your ass back over here, dude. You're not holding the two pound gator. So I ended up ah holding this fucking, I mean, anyway it was big enough for that. I was not comfortable, man. i He said he could see like me like processing my true fears and like facing things. And I was like, fuck you, dude. So they the guy's like, you know, The gator's not going to hurt you.
00:52:17
echo_blades
You know, it, you know, and they explained how they, well, this is fucked up.
00:52:19
tyrellknifeworks
Its mouth was taped, right?
00:52:23
echo_blades
So they explained, you know, how they don't have opening power in their jaws.
00:52:26
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:52:27
echo_blades
It's all clamping. So he's like, you know, so they can't do you, right? You hold their mouth shut. They can't do anything. And he's like, well, we put the band over. So they put this like rubber band over them the mouth, right? And as the guy's fucking doing it, the fucking band pops off. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no. And then sure as shit. And when the fucking dude is handing me the Gator, the fucking band comes off ah right as it's like coming and I fucking shit myself. I was like, no.
00:53:03
echo_blades
yeah
00:53:04
tyrellknifeworks
and and nobody got video of this?
00:53:06
echo_blades
No, he didn't get a picture of that because it I mean, he probably just must have missed it because He got me while I was actually holding it. And it was cool because he was taking pictures, but they were actually live pictures. So I'm mouthing to him. I fucking hate you. I hate you while I'm holding this gator, but I got this shit eating grin on my face and we played the live video and you could actually, uh, he just posted a reel about it at the very end of it. You could see me going, and I hate you.
00:53:44
echo_blades
So, uh, yeah, it was, it was cool, man.
00:53:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:53:47
echo_blades
A lot of fun, man. I laughed my ass off, dude. Uh, I love you, Brent, dude. Thank you. His family was so gracious to have me over beautiful family. Just, you know, we had dinner with him and his wife, um, and, you know, dinner with the family and like, it was just a fantastic, fantastic trip. They were so gracious and hospitality was through the roof. Um, And, ah you know, the fuck else?
00:54:17
tyrellknifeworks
Sounds like a blast.
00:54:19
echo_blades
Yeah. And then on Thursday night, instead of going to the shop, because we went back from from the Everglades, we were coming back and ah his entire neighborhood was underwater. Like, I'll show you the video when I see you next time of like the entire neighborhood was like underwater, like water creeping up to people's houses. Um, and, uh, finally I looked at him and I was like, are you nervous? Like as we were getting closer, like there was, we were going through like a foot of water, just traveling down his street. And I'm like, dude, is that your neighbor in your street? Cause all of the neighborhoods look the same to me.
00:55:02
echo_blades
Which is they're completely different, right? Um, there's no fences. There's like, it's just the whole thing's different, right?
00:55:07
tyrellknifeworks
It's weird. For Californians, it's weird.
00:55:08
echo_blades
It's weird. yeah ah them Yeah. It's a total mind fuck. But, uh, I go, I, I had just started getting used to, you know, like proximities and where we are. And I, and I was like, I think we're close to your house. Like, is that your neighbor? just wading through about two feet of water down your road. And he's like, yeah, he goes. All right. Now I'm nervous. He goes in 20 years of him living there. They have never, he has never seen the flooding as bad as it was. ah Maybe one other one or two other times, the entire time he's lived there, um, as it was on a Wednesday or Thursday. So like through the hurricanes, through all the shit that they, they go through, they took on a shit ton of water. Um, like.
00:55:53
echo_blades
I think his next door neighbor had water going into his garage. Thankfully his house was a little bit more elevated up. So he didn't have any issues with that, but his shop did end up taking like, like you said, like eight inches of water.
00:56:04
tyrellknifeworks
But any damage or anything in the shop?
00:56:06
echo_blades
No, he's got everything up off the floor. So, um,
00:56:10
tyrellknifeworks
Does that happen in my shop, man? who
00:56:13
echo_blades
Yeah, I'd be screwed too. So he probably got some water in the bottom drawer of a tool you know tools of some kind, but he said he everything turned out cool. so um Yeah, and then we went back to to housemaid and I got to do the full circle.
00:56:26
tyrellknifeworks
That's good.
00:56:36
echo_blades
ah I think this is this is really cool, right? So we had this whole scoop gate thing, right? which was a whole thing that really wasn't much of a thing. But I got to make a scoop at Housemaid on the thousand pound anvil with my two bastards hammer with Brent in there. And it was just us two because we were him and I are working on a ah special top secret project to to be revealed later. But um
00:57:12
echo_blades
I was like, I want to make a fucking scoop. Like I have to make a scoop while I'm here. Like I just, I have to. So I ended up doing that and that was really cool. Um, so I'm, uh, I use my two bastards fat peen hamburger.
00:57:22
tyrellknifeworks
Good. And you used your two bastards hammer.
00:57:30
echo_blades
Like I said, it is grand to have a fat peen in your hand. And if you don't have a fat peen cross straight diagonal round, whatever you need to go.
00:57:39
tyrellknifeworks
All the positions.
00:57:41
echo_blades
All the position, all the grips.
00:57:47
echo_blades
He's got a hammer to fit your grip, man. He's gripping, rip it and and let it go. You got to go see Frank and Nito red, a two bastard Smithy and supply. Um, and tell them, uh, the boys over at triple T sent you.
00:58:02
tyrellknifeworks
For sure. Oh, we we also did mention we hung out with the man Lawrence Lake from Maritime Knife Supply. um Quite a bit actually while we were in at Blade Show. So got to hang out with Lawrence, which is always a fun time. So if you didn't see Lawrence at the show, definitely go check him out at Maritime Knife Supply and for all your knife making needs. And they will be carrying Frank Anita's two bastards hammers at Maritime Knife Supply. So if you're up in Canada and you need yourself a fat peen, go over to Maritime Knife Supply and you can get them there.
00:58:45
echo_blades
You want to know what these fat beans all about?
00:58:45
tyrellknifeworks
um
00:58:49
tyrellknifeworks
That was terrible. But it was great to hang with Lawrence and always a fun time. um He he ah brought a bunch of drinks for us to the house on Thursday night, which is very nice of him. And just, yeah, always fun hanging out with him.
00:59:11
echo_blades
One of my, one of my better. one of my better buddies there. I always look forward to these trips to to get a to hang out with ah Lawrence. We always have a good time.
00:59:24
tyrellknifeworks
So what else? Anything else happen in Florida?
00:59:28
echo_blades
Yeah, but I also got to um see our boy ah Travis from Pelican paste as well.
00:59:34
tyrellknifeworks
That's right, that's right.
00:59:36
echo_blades
So.
00:59:36
tyrellknifeworks
And you could always spot Travis because he was always wearing like a really bright orange shirt, so you could spot him across the room.
00:59:42
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:44
echo_blades
Yeah, there's only a couple people that get a pass with orange for me. Uh, Donny, Donny Dulevich gave me a hat that's got some orange in it. I love it. Thank you, sir. Um, and, uh, and Travis too, with all of his orangy scented Pelican paste, hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand solve. All of that premium wax. You got to go check out PelicanPace dot.com and you can use the discount code TripleT10. That's TTT10 and go get yourself some Pelican Pace.
01:00:21
tyrellknifeworks
Use it on your fat peeing.
01:00:22
echo_blades
You can use it on your fat pain, your skinny pain, your little pain, big pain, whatever you want.
01:00:30
tyrellknifeworks
oh Hey, well, i i want I want to talk about Maker Spotlight because it's got some connection to, for me at least, the one eye the ones I picked um to Blade Show.
01:00:32
echo_blades
That's great. Yeah.
01:00:45
tyrellknifeworks
so So I'm going to go first. So first off, I want to mention one of my previous Maker Spotlights, was which was Jason Knives um went for his journeyman. And not only did he get his journeyman stamp, but Jason won the Kiesler Award for the best JS Knives presented at the show. And that's a really, really impressive award because there's
01:01:18
tyrellknifeworks
There's always some amazing journeyman sets that get presented at the show. So big congrats to Jason for winning the Kiesler Award. But my pick was one of our neighbors, Raid at Blade Show, ah Eric at... great I don't know how to pronounce his last name. Greiner Blades. G-R-E-I-N-E-R, Greenerblades. And he's he's a friend. He's right beside us at the show. um And he also got his Journeyman stamp. So congrats, Eric. We knew you could do it. So good job.
01:01:54
echo_blades
Yeah, dude. So one of the coolest things that we're starting to have go on at blade is like our little, um, our neighbor family. We're surrounded by just some really awesome people. Um, and Eric has been there. I think every year I've been there, he's been right behind us and it was super cool to, to watch him go through that and, uh, congrats buddy on, on passing your JS man. Uh, well-deserved and and good work.
01:02:27
tyrellknifeworks
So who do you got?
01:02:30
echo_blades
Where can you find Eric?
01:02:34
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I already said it. Green your blades. I'll put it in the show notes, but green your blades on Instagram.
01:02:41
echo_blades
Okay, thank you. I'm gonna make sure that I have two birds, blade works, our buddy Leon Shanks. um
01:02:54
echo_blades
I, his maker's mark is probably my favorite of all time. The, the, the, the two birds.
01:03:01
tyrellknifeworks
Yes.
01:03:03
echo_blades
Um, this dude just kills it with his, uh, with his Damascus and his his chef knives. And, um, I've followed him for a long time now. Uh, as long as I can. Remember, but, um, good dude. Um, and just does fantastic works. He has, uh, 1592 followers and it is two birds blade works on Instagram. And if you're not checking them out, um, do yourself a favor and and go do that. Cause he does great stuff.
01:03:41
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I love the one he's got where it's got his Maker's Mark in it. um It's a Damascus blade and he must have hot stamped it because the it blends in with the Damascus.
01:03:55
echo_blades
Oh, is that the third one?
01:03:57
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I think that is a really cool effect.
01:03:58
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:04:01
tyrellknifeworks
um you just kind of you you If you didn't know his Maker's Mark and you kind of glanced at it, you wouldn't see it, but I think that was cool.
01:04:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:04:09
echo_blades
Yeah, I mean, he's got this that um the edge bars with the with the checkered patterns um is a common theme there.
01:04:15
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:04:18
echo_blades
I'm seeing just really fucking cool stuff. So yeah, go check out Leon over at two words blade work.
01:04:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, cool, dude.
01:04:26
echo_blades
That's who I got.
01:04:28
tyrellknifeworks
All right, man. So I must tell you, I'm not going to spend a lot of time telling you about all the fun stuff I did on vacation, but it was fun. The most fun I had in Mexico was ah watching my grandson experience all these fun little things. And we did one of the the little pie, the pirate ship that goes out and like, you know, uh, uh, it's like a, basically an evening cruise and the pirates come out and there's a pirate show and watching his face during that was hilarious. Cause they actually like one of the pirates gets kicked overboard. Um, and you're going like full clip, right? You're going like, whatever.
01:05:10
tyrellknifeworks
10. It's a big ship. You're doing like 10 knots or something like that. And this guy like goes overboard. Uh, it was pretty cool. And then they went doll. They, when they did the dolphins and we did these diving in the care, swimming in the caves, uh, in the cenotes. Um, so watching him and my, uh, my stepdaughter and you know everyone have a good time because I've done all those excursions. I've been there so many times. It was just fun to you know watch them experience it for the first time. and Then of course, all the food and the drinking and all that stuff. so That was fun too. and All of my friends, so
01:05:47
tyrellknifeworks
all of, uh, my friends, kids, like their 18 year olds were all there. They had a big graduation thing. So there was like 40, some of us there, um, in different parts of the resort. So it was, uh, there was a lot of people and, you know, we had graduation parties and stuff like that. So it was, uh, it was really fun time. Um, some of them are still there actually.
01:06:11
echo_blades
You.
01:06:13
echo_blades
You have 40 friends.
01:06:14
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, I know, right? Crazy.
01:06:18
echo_blades
That you choose to go travel with. That's fucking insane.
01:06:21
tyrellknifeworks
I know besides you.
01:06:23
echo_blades
Yeah. Oh man.
01:06:26
tyrellknifeworks
Well, some of those are like kids and, you know, you know, all the kids' families and shit like that.
01:06:27
echo_blades
and
01:06:33
tyrellknifeworks
But yeah, there's a lot of people.
01:06:36
echo_blades
Wow.
01:06:37
tyrellknifeworks
We're already planning the next two trips, maybe Jamaica in, uh, in Feb and probably Italy next October. So we'll see.
01:06:49
echo_blades
You were going to maker's camp in October. You would cancel that.
01:06:53
tyrellknifeworks
No, no, next October after Makers Camp.
01:06:55
echo_blades
We'll be at make, we'll be in maker's camp that attacked over too.
01:06:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yes. Oh, and by the way, I heard from one of my Patreon members that was also taking a class from me, reached reached out and was asking me about Maker Camp. And he said that all of the rooms at the Blackthorn are already gone. So we got to, I got to book that, the we got to book that hotel.
01:07:19
echo_blades
That secret spot was just fine.
01:07:22
tyrellknifeworks
What's that?
01:07:22
echo_blades
That's the spot we stayed at last time was just fine.
01:07:25
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that's what that's where um I'm thinking.
01:07:27
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:28
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that was but was far enough away.
01:07:28
echo_blades
There was there was nothing wrong with that.
01:07:32
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:07:33
tyrellknifeworks
The room was decent. The beds were decent. So I think, yeah, I'm going to just but the pull the trigger on that one again.
01:07:40
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:07:41
tyrellknifeworks
So we'll figure that out.
01:07:43
echo_blades
um that Yeah.
01:07:43
tyrellknifeworks
But we got to do that soon.
01:07:46
echo_blades
Cause
01:07:47
tyrellknifeworks
I think it's getting more and more popular every year. It's going to be hard to get a hotel around the Blackthorn.
01:07:54
echo_blades
Yeah, it could be if we just stop talking about it, but that's not fun.
01:08:01
echo_blades
Yeah, so again, thank you to everybody that we got to talk to and see. It was great seeing everybody. um Like I said, all the feedback. Brent, thank you for having me. Brian, Sarah, and the crew, ah the DIY Europe guys, um everybody that got to hang out with in Florida. Appreciate everybody. Thank you. I had a great time and it was just just fantastic to not have to see Dennis for like seven days in a row.
01:08:32
tyrellknifeworks
You missed me. It's okay. You can admit it.
01:08:37
echo_blades
It was kind of weird not now talking to you or or or anything.
01:08:43
tyrellknifeworks
I know.
01:08:43
echo_blades
Yeah. We were just, we were completely just on other ends of the world. It was cool.
01:08:48
tyrellknifeworks
I know we were both busy, no podcasts, no, uh, and I didn't honestly, like, i I wanted to do it on the show. Like I didn't want to talk beforehand about it. I wanted to hear about it on the show.
01:08:56
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:08:57
tyrellknifeworks
So.
01:08:58
echo_blades
Yeah, I think, dude, so I got a question. You got to check this out. I bought ah about $60 worth of shirts. Okay.
01:09:06
tyrellknifeworks
What do you mean? Like t-shirts?
01:09:08
echo_blades
T shirts at blade show.
01:09:08
tyrellknifeworks
Okay.
01:09:10
echo_blades
I didn't really pack many shirts because I figure I'm just gonna buy some shirts for different reasons. While we were packing up, I either put them in one of your bags, or I left them at the show.
01:09:28
tyrellknifeworks
I think you left them at the show because I don't have them in my bag.
01:09:35
echo_blades
That's a bummer.
01:09:37
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. No, I mean, I haven't totally unpacked all, but all the clothes I put in the big, the big bag were all like dirty clothes that I wore.
01:09:37
echo_blades
That's a bummer.
01:09:46
tyrellknifeworks
And like, there was no clean clothes in there.
01:09:49
echo_blades
Yeah, I was, I don't know if, you know, they got snuck into Parker's or, or if I just left them on a chair or something at the table. Cause I i got to Brent's house. I was like, uh, I gotta do some laundry, dude. Cause I don't have any shirts.
01:10:02
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, that sucks.
01:10:04
echo_blades
I was fucking bummed out.
01:10:07
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:10:08
tyrellknifeworks
That's it. It wasn't part.
01:10:09
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:10:09
tyrellknifeworks
It couldn't have been in Parker's because he only had a backpack.
01:10:13
echo_blades
yeah Yeah. I don't know. Well,
01:10:16
tyrellknifeworks
I'll look again. I mean, I haven't busted that thing open. I'll look again and see maybe it's in a bag that I just didn't see here something, but seems weird.
01:10:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:10:25
tyrellknifeworks
You would have put him in there.
01:10:26
echo_blades
Yeah. Oh, that was fuck. yeah Maybe i'll I'll save it for next week. i I did something really fucking cool, but yeah, I'm a cliffhanger everybody. I'll do some reels.
01:10:37
tyrellknifeworks
but You're a dick.
01:10:38
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's fucking awesome, but you're not going to know about it for a while.
01:10:45
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, is this like a Florida awesome thing or is this like, okay.
01:10:47
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's cool. It's good. It's really cool.
01:10:52
tyrellknifeworks
All right.
01:10:54
echo_blades
But, uh, till next time, my friends.
01:10:58
tyrellknifeworks
All right. I will talk to you soon.
01:11:03
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm going to get over this sickness and, uh, hopefully.
01:11:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, you you get well before you even come over here, because I got shit to do.
01:11:10
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:11:10
tyrellknifeworks
I got sand sharks to assemble. I am in full assembly mode right now. I want to have them ah Jeff brings the parts by tomorrow for all the metal, the aluminum pieces. I have Parker coming over. We are going to just bang these together um for the next two weeks and just hopefully get Definitely drop one maybe some a drop two done before the end of the month. So that's the goal Nice Congrats
01:11:39
echo_blades
Nice. Yeah. I'm, uh, I have to get, I'm feeling a little better right now, actually. Uh, I slept the entire fucking weekend, but, um, on Friday, my wife and I are going out to, um, Bodega Bay to celebrate our 22nd wedding anniversary on Saturday. We're going to be gone for the weekend. So thank you.
01:12:01
tyrellknifeworks
Congrats.
01:12:02
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:12:03
tyrellknifeworks
She put up with you for that long?
01:12:03
echo_blades
We're, uh, crazy. It's crazy. She's got to be certified. So I'm looking forward that ah to that time, Mrs. Echo Blades. um So yeah, I will catch you sometimes next week.
01:12:22
tyrellknifeworks
All right, another week without Jared.
01:12:25
echo_blades
Yay.
01:12:28
echo_blades
All right, brother.
01:12:28
tyrellknifeworks
ah Well, where's some fish lops while you're there?
01:12:31
echo_blades
Fuck, I forgot about the flops. There's so much to talk about. Uh, the fucking nice Croc stickers, all the fucking, I'm a Disney princess. Like we, there was all, all kinds of good stuff.
01:12:44
tyrellknifeworks
All right, we're gonna add that to the show for next time.
01:12:45
echo_blades
I'm sure we'll keep it going next year. Yep. Yep. All right. Let's get out of here. I gotta go to bed.
01:12:50
tyrellknifeworks
All right, later.
01:13:07
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.