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Going Cocaine Bear on a beignet
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Come listen to Jerid talk about his antics with beignets, plus all we've been up to in the shop. Let us keep you company and maybe you'll get a laugh. Or maybe not.. who knows.
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Transcript
Introduction and Humorous Banter
00:00:16
Speaker
Triple T podcast, Dennis and Jared. Yo. What? That's what she told me to say.
00:00:30
Speaker
OK. What do you want to tell the listeners? I don't want to tell them anything. Triple T podcast, Dennis and Jared.
00:00:43
Speaker
She thought that would make you laugh. it really did cheing I'm kind of dragging ass a little bit right now. And I was just sharing with my buddy. I said, did you do the intro, you need practice, but you just nailed it. I covered everything that we need to cover the name of the podcast, who we are. And now let's get into it. You're right.
Color-Changing Cup and Labor Day Plans
00:01:10
Speaker
Why are you drinking out of a pink cup? It's one of those color changing cups. When you put something cold in it, it changes color. Cute. I like that. It looks like I'm drinking some kind of fancy beverage, but it's just water. It's just water? Yeah.
00:01:27
Speaker
Well, Donny, sorry, buddy. I'm going to have to let you down. My Topo Chico is in the fridge getting cold, but I am about to celebrate this labor day, 2024 with a nice refreshing can of Waterloo summer Berry. Makes me think of the song. What song?
00:01:50
Speaker
Well, that one, you know, they played at the end of um the movie. um Yeah, that movie. I just told the kids I have no idea what you're talking about. They play it during um the Mars movie.
Favorite Movies Discussion
00:02:05
Speaker
What's that? What's it called? Mission of Mars or The Martian? The Martian. Oh, that's a good movie. I actually read that book or listen to that audio book. I've seen that movie like at least 10 times. Every time it's on, I always watch it. I mean, like the Like always, the book is way better, but the movie I enjoyed. There's there's like three movies that i'll if they're on, I will, maybe four. If they're on, I'll always watch them. Okay. Give them, come on. This is good stuff. Come on. Because I have embarrassing. um Okay. Um, usually that one, if that's on. Okay. That gets fast.
00:02:44
Speaker
51st dates. That's a good one. Cause you, you like dudes with lisps. I get it. Um, shit. What's the other one? Shit. I've not seen that one. Um, the Martian 51st dates. Oh, my cousin Vinny. That's a good one. Yeah. My cousin Vinny. And, um, Hmm. I'd have to think of the other ones.
00:03:10
Speaker
I'm sure there's a couple. What about you? Is there not a movie? Like if it's on, you'll always watch it. Do I have a lot? I have a lot. But like Wolf of Wall Street gets one every single time. I see not to leave. Ray will get one. Django will get one. um I do you know what I just watched yesterday? And it was freaking fantastic. Oh, geez. Days of Thunder.
00:03:36
Speaker
That is a good movie.
Escape Room Adventure
00:03:37
Speaker
Dude, I haven't seen it since I was a wee lad and I caught it like just at the very tail end of it. And I just, I just Ricky Bobbie'd out. I was just going to say that made me remind me of ah Ballad of Ricky Bobby, which is the other one that I will always watch. Yeah. And it was due to, I can't think of the dude, John Riley H. Riley. John C.R. Riley. Yeah. He's in that one too.
00:04:05
Speaker
That's in days of thunder. Yeah. Yes. Oh, that's where he got his, uh, introduction into the world of shake and bake. Yeah. Shake and bake. Uh, perfect storm is another one. If it's on, I'll usually watch it. And that's another John C Riley movie. I've only seen that a couple of times. Yeah. Only when they're catching fish and then, you know, that I usually turn it off.
00:04:29
Speaker
Yeah, Lynn and I just are, what did she make me watch? The Last Kingdom? Utrid of Utrid of Utrid of Utrid from Utridland. If you haven't seen it, you won't get that, but. I have seen it. I still don't get that. Utrid of Utrid. I'm Utrid, son of Utrid from Beb and Bear. I don't get that. Yeah. Anyway, sees the character. His name is Utrid and he says it like every time he talks, it's like, Utrid and Utrid and Utrid and Utrid and Utrid. Maybe I'm thinking of a different movie. What did you call it?
00:04:55
Speaker
the last called The Last Kingdom. yeah It's a series on Netflix. Oh, I'm thinking of the movie The Kingdom, which is a totally different movie. Yeah, yeah. no this is That's a good one. I dig it. I actually have never seen it all the way through. I keep catching it when Lynn's like halfway through the series. So I might go back and try to watch it.
00:05:14
Speaker
And then we started watching the Sopranos again today. So that's what I should watch. That's so good. It's so good. Yeah, I finally i finally got Kim to watch um Breaking Bad. She doesn't like any kind of like, you know,
00:05:31
Speaker
Movie shows like horror movie shows and like movies with her like if it's a bad movie She doesn't know like, you know, they do bad things. She doesn't like to watch it, but I finally got her to watch Breaking Bad She loved she loved it. That's good. So I think she would like this Sopranos. That's a good one But good old Heisenberg. Yeah Yeah. Well, that was an intro. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the triple T podcast for knife makers. My name is Jared from echo blades. And as always, I have my co-host Dennis Terrell from Terrell knife works. And we're here to talk about a bunch of nothing. So strap in. And here we go.
Labor Day Activities and Work-Life Balance
00:06:10
Speaker
How was your labor day? 2024. Um, I labored. Um,
00:06:16
Speaker
Yeah, I was actually not really I spent like an hour and a half, maybe two hours in the shop. And then Was working on the jet ski for an hour, probably an hour and a half. Dude, the jet skis like the endless project. No, I just I haven't gotten back to it. I had put the it's got the gel coat on and I had to sand it and put another coat on and I just keep dragging my feet. You're doing a Jared. I get it. Yeah. you're on the jar air tragic following right Yeah.
00:06:48
Speaker
That's funny. Toby ah ah from fire and still sent me a message last week and he's like, okay, mate, what hell is this Jared water? Jared. I need to know. Tell me, did I miss something? Did you fuck up a knife or something? God, I can't. Always go Australian, man. I can do a really good one. And I just... Well, he's half Australian. Like, he's from Australia. No, but he's doesn't... It's very subtle, is... Yeah, you're all shrimp on the barbie. and Yeah, but I was like, right there, right there!
00:07:23
Speaker
I just quite nailed it right there. You need to be more Peaky Blinders and less yeah crocodile Dundee. I don't know, man. I do some great accents and I just botched that. So my bad toads, my gobs. Anyways. Yeah. So I had to fill them in on the, on my undying dedication to to profiling.
00:07:46
Speaker
Affectionately known in the Knive community now as Jared-ing. Yeah. but I love that. You should be an FBI profiler. I had to mute. but I was AO.
00:08:07
Speaker
oh So how's your week been? ah This week was...
00:08:14
Speaker
It was a stressful week at work. um And then that rolled into a very not stressful. So A, I know you're retired and you don't remember what it's like to actually go to a job anymore, but um I have really been focusing on doing my best to go to work While I'm at work, I'm at work and then leaving work and leaving work at work. Right. And so you should. It's a, it's a balance thing that I have sucked at for a long time. Um, and.
00:09:01
Speaker
How come you come over? You sit in my driveway on the phone for 20 minutes. I know because technology is technology's awesome. um And I get to you know participate in meetings and stuff while I'm not at work. But anyways, it's like one of those things right now because it is very hectic and blah, blah, blah, whwa all that good stuff. But that's not what I'm trying to get. I'm just really trying to focus on trying to balance and prioritize my thoughts.
00:09:30
Speaker
where I'm at by being present, being in the moment, it is important for me to to give my attention to whatever it is I am participating in at the time and not let, you know, things that I can't control, especially, you know, like stress from work kind of take over. So um really making a focus to to try to do that. And I have been doing fairly well. But unfortunately, I think I might have to increase my hours at work in order to
00:10:02
Speaker
allow more time to think about work because it's it's getting that that way right now. It's getting kind of busy. But at any rate, I really unplugged this weekend, so it was really good. We kind of got out of the office a little early on Tuesday, but I was i was in the middle of, you know,
00:10:22
Speaker
Not even thinking about it. So I was a horrible boss and somebody else came in and was like, all right, everybody, let's wrap up. And I'm like, Hey, that's supposed to be my, but I had forgot. So they were going to work the whole day. It was up to me. It's pretty shitty. out But anyways, that's what has been the primary ah deal. um And then on Saturday, I woke up and I spent the entire day in the shop. I got to, um I think during the week I came over your house, huh?
00:10:59
Speaker
midweek. Yeah. Yeah. Just just for, uh, yeah. Cause I started that sheath for the, the intrepid. That's what it was. yeah Yeah. Yeah. That's what it was. So, um, I, I did start that sheath and this time I, I mean, you still set the, uh, the process down because that's shit still eludes me. Um, but I did try to like use all my, my tools.
00:11:27
Speaker
or I could. um
00:11:31
Speaker
Like, because I use all your shit last time. Right. This would be number two, if I didn't say that. i But ah yeah, and then during that whole process, I learned that like right now, currently, I do not enjoy that. Not one single bit is something that is it's not that it's not that I don't like it. um I think I'm
00:11:55
Speaker
I understand how much faster I could do a kydex. I understand, you know, I always struggle with like trying to make sure that I can grasp the concepts and do this on my own, right? And then in get all those the steps down and without fucking things up, because I don't like to do that, right? I only want to do things once. um But I end up having to, you know, everybody has to learn and go through that process. But Yeah, it wasn't fun. Like I really didn't didn't really enjoy it like I wanted to like the first time I it was just blast because it was new and you know, we were just doing it but we were yeah ah stressed and leather sheets are always um I don't love doing them. I don't hate doing them, but I do procrastinate and I do them. You know, usually I don't make for my expensive knives which get leather sheets. I don't make them until the knife is sold usually.
00:12:49
Speaker
i Because i'm lazy and and i don't love it but once i get into it i mean if it's not a complicated sheath with like overlay i can usually bust out a sheet and she's in couple hours right and um and then i remember oh yeah this isn't that bad like that every time that goes through my head i'm like oh yeah i can just buses and two hours and have the rest of the day and.
00:13:13
Speaker
But sheaths ah or leather sheaths are definitely one of those things that it's all about steps in order of operation. Yep. Because if you don't, if you miss a step, ah you just make your life really complicated. I can see that. I could see that. Like there's a couple of things that I did, like I was like, oh, and I saw it after I had done it and I was like, shit, I'm going to forget that next time. It's went about myself or, you know,
00:13:39
Speaker
um But it was, like I said, I could see everything that you're saying. I could see once you get in the groove and you got it down, it's not gonna be that big of a deal. It just, it was laborious. yeah It's very trying. It gets better, it gets better. Because then you'll be like, yeah, what are the next two steps that I need to do? And what do I need to do before I do that step is kind of my mindset. Like I don't i don't have a set.
00:14:06
Speaker
you know, do these steps in this order, I just think, oh, I need to do this now, I need to do these two steps next. What do I need to do to get there? And like in order, if I'm gonna, like when I say do the, like the that line of where your stamp is going to go on kind of the outside, or where your stitching is going to go with it, you have to grind the outside of the sheath.
00:14:30
Speaker
Right. Because if you don't, your line is all wonky. Because you're going to grind it after, right? ah Yeah, that happened. but Still, I didn't grind it flat very well. Oh, something else. It's just it's it's new material, new process, new, like, just new, new, new, new, new. And I was, I don't know, this one, I had a way better time, way a lot more a fun time doing it um the first time around. But um And then I took it back. I think we got as far as stamped it, ground it, glued it. Yeah, all you had to do was stitch it. Yeah, so I just had to do some stitching. But so I grabbed my my new stitching pony. um Oh, yeah, fancy. And I did that at the at the table here in the living room while we were watching. Movies, but again, I just wing that. um And it was
00:15:25
Speaker
but you got it. All the shit, I got it done, but yeah, all the shit I have is, here's here's my, does you motherfucker? you So everything, this is my PSA to all the new people thinking about it, right? If you watch Dennis's video, he's gonna recommend you get this kit from Amazon. And I don't necessarily not recommend that kit. I do think that kit is a great point to start, however,
00:15:53
Speaker
I have quickly learned that I will more than likely replace most of it. Yes, I told you that last time. yeah Yes. And then and I didn't quite buy into it because there's just a doesn't have a certain, you know, some things that you need to kind of help yourself, you know, expedite the process and the things that it does have.
00:16:19
Speaker
there they're priced appropriately because it's not like it's a bank breaking starter kit. I think it's like 30 bucks or something like that. Yeah. So it's not not bad, but um I broke the needle. Like it came with all different sizes of needles. It didn't come with two matching needles. it You know, like it it was i was, I was very irritated for a few and I snapped one trying to to to pull it through on the threads and then I had to redo it. and I refuse to watch your video. This was hilarious. When I was just simply trying to tie the the thread to the needle, a I can, I can recall you telling me to do something so simple.
00:17:01
Speaker
and i i it And I did not listen. I did not retain. And I i broke that off several times. and and And then I broke the... Did you ever go back and watch the video? I did not. I i did the entire thing without. I never watched a single thing.
00:17:21
Speaker
I don't even know how I ended it. I remember you were like, Oh, you just do this at the very end. But I just, I went through it a bunch more times and burnt the ends. And I was like, all right, here it is. We're done. So all we got to do is kind of round out the fronts, um, on the grinder, uh, diet and burnish burnish. And then whale it. I know. Well, yeah. Yeah. it's still go And then That was something you got to wet it up first and then our oiling it is the part where you shape it to the knife.
Leather Crafting Struggles and Insights
00:17:54
Speaker
um It depends. Yeah, I mean, I would do that with water, like water form it before you put any um before you even put the dye on it. Usually you do it before you water form. So I could do that now. Yeah, you can do that now. And then let it dry out.
00:18:12
Speaker
You know, you need to let it dry. Then you could just do um um the edge, the dye, sorry, dye, dye it right then. And then, um and then burn the shade and the whole thing will dry together. Okay. All right. So, du Oh man, I have been watching that ah your makers, spotlights challenge thing on repeat.
00:18:36
Speaker
in the bottom of my screen here for the entire the entire episode. I'm going to get out of that. Sorry. Oh, you mean that? Yeah, I don't want to ruin it, but yeah, it was just been in loop and loop and loop. But ah yeah, so that was that was that. And then I started. um What did I do? Oh, that.
00:19:04
Speaker
Lawrence gave me a ah
00:19:08
Speaker
that yellow belt, the thirty the razor, norton the razor star. Yeah. Um, and it's just been sitting there. And so after watching Noah's video last week, um, I was like, fuck it. I'm going to, I'm going to try it. So I learned a valuable lesson this week that that belt for me is 100% a pre heat treat grinding belt.
00:19:39
Speaker
Um, I used it on two knives that were already heat treated. Uh, it tore through them pretty damn easily, but that sucker gets hot. Really, really, ah really hot. So I did a chef knife, uh, and, um, made short work of that one. And then I have this, uh, intrepid, like the full size intrepid that, um, I made.
00:20:06
Speaker
out of, I think it's DamaWorks. It's a LEO4 tank barrel from German tank barrel from World War II or something like that. This ah pattern that I bought at Bill H.O. West last year. um So I made an intrepid out of it. He treated it and then got busy grinding. And I i will tell you about this. There's no way I'm going to be able to explain what i'm what happened. But my whole intent on that was to grind a, an angled plunge line, very sharp and leave a good amount of flat and try to match the flat to the, the swedge. Okay. Okay. So I had it on one side, really dialed in and on the, on my weekend.
00:21:02
Speaker
I was so close and I ended up washing out the flat. It was such a bummer. And then I was think I got pissed off. So I started going to a full grind and I ended up fucking torching the edge and had to reprofile it and make it a little shorter.
00:21:19
Speaker
So yeah, I think that's a lot of Jared stuff, a lot of Jared qualities and in that, not the belt's fault. But I think to help prevent that, um I think that it would definitely make short work of i not treated steel for sure. So good product. I loved it.
00:21:39
Speaker
Yeah, I've been switching up to going up to higher grits a little sooner than I than I used to. So maybe that's ah something you need to do is go up to a 120 or something a little sooner before you before you get down to hot. my Yeah. and my ah Yeah. but I normally do. But I think this happened. it It happened a little more quickly with this belt than it has in the past because my progression is 36. And then I jumped to those purple belts on a 60. There's 60 grit. The purple belt.
00:22:25
Speaker
Yeah, the one that's supposed to grind better with the but the heat treated stuff. I think ah Phoenix makes it. So I'll jump to 60 there to try to get those 36 scratches out sooner. um And then 120 and 240. What is that one? compact grain.
00:22:50
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah that Norton just made short work that Thing it happened really quick. So I so Skipped the things but yeah, I see some value and maybe yeah Jumping off a little sooner and getting more control over that ah the Christmas the crisp Christmas crispness of that line but double a line Yeah, I used them once and they were on it was actually post heat treat but I was doing I wasn't doing full grinds full flats. It was on like sand Tigers or something. So yeah, I mean, I like the belt. I think it's very comparable to the actor rocks from VSM. Yeah, it's hotter.
00:23:33
Speaker
ah Honestly, I don't know. I've only used it once. I don't remember, but I remember thinking they were pretty interchangeable. I mean, it could be the combo of the carbide platen and the belt. I don't know. I'm i'm just speculating. oh yeah you have I forgot you got the carbide platen. Does it get hotter? It does get hot. Oh, it does get a little hot. Now you need a chiller. Do you? Yeah. i then
00:24:01
Speaker
I probably should just hook up my mist system. But yeah, I'm um'm lazy that way. So anyways, that was that. A lot of grinding. I was behind the thing all day long. Jared did ah finished Jared-ing up a couple of things. and But it was fun. man It was really good to be back in the shop and just getting behind the grinder and kind of taking my lumps with, you know, again, having some time away from, from grinding and getting back in the rhythm of that muscle memory. And, and for obvious son of a bitch, dude, if we were just talking about last week about injuries in the shop, would you do as sure as shit? I punched the belt. Sure. Shit.
00:24:44
Speaker
um I took a nice chunk off my middle finger twice to you. So I won't be giving anybody the finger in a while. No, I do. I just it's not bad. It's just a, you know, but you just being a big baby little belts. I just hadn't happened in a while. Normally I end up ah cutting like little lines on my.
00:25:06
Speaker
on my finger from the, not softening the edges on the spine. That's normally what happens, but I slipped and said, hello belt. This is my middle finger. Um, what did I do this week? Oh, I got that.
00:25:22
Speaker
The last Saturday, no, sorry, this week is like flying by. I swear it's, I feel like it's like Thursday already. Um, but Saturday's video, I finished the the Dan's knife, the, my, the best man at my wedding, the, the revamp of his knife, um, got him, I got him to drop over.
00:25:44
Speaker
When was it Wednesday last week? I told him I needed some help with something.
Knife Projects and Wood Acquisition
00:25:49
Speaker
And he came by, comes in and we were just talking. And he sees the camera set up at the table and the tripod for my phone both set up at the table. But he doesn't think anything of it. He thinks I'm just videoing something. And we kind of shoot the shit for 10 minutes. And then he asked me what I need help with. And then I told him to sit down. And then he figured out what it was because the knife case was sitting on the table.
00:26:15
Speaker
So, uh, so that was fun to give him that knife and, uh, see his reaction. Um, good to have that, honestly, to have that knife off the books. Cause every time I go over to his house, uh, I see that knife and, or he shows it to me every once in a while and I grown and tell him I want to throw it in the garbage and he won't let me kind of thing. But now I'll, I'll look forward to seeing that knife again.
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, it came out really good. It really did. That was an incredible transformation. And I did catch the end of that um that video, so that's pretty cool. I'm glad to get to do that.
00:26:53
Speaker
I really like the, I like the handle on that. it's but It's more sculpted than I'm, you know, I just, a couple of new techniques on my handle sculpting that I will put in the playbook. Just, um you know, just progressing, getting better, getting sharper lines on the, on the Coke bottle portion. So, cause I used to,
00:27:21
Speaker
used to shave the back, like contour the back um after I did that sculpting line. You know what i' I'm talking about about that sculpting line right in the middle, that that kind of curved line that goes up to the top of the heel um or the butt of the knife. Well, I sculpted the top of the knife first, sanded the top of the knife before I put that sculpt line in. So, and I did it with the grinder and it was super crisp.
00:27:51
Speaker
And then that helped a lot to keep that really, really crisp. So I was going to say, because you instead of having layout lines, you actually had debt that. No, I still use layout lines, but I rounded the top first because my layout lines are actually on the bottom of the knife, typically, because I'm it's thinner at the bottom than the top. So anyway, it's hard. hit It's hard to talk about. on but yeah I'm just saying you had like a pro a very pronounced announcedce um line to work to yeah to match that. That's what I was trying to get. Yeah. Yeah. yeah oh I always put that line on with a marker yeah so that I can sit there on the, I think I use a four inch wheel and just play that, you know, right up to that line. And then, right yeah, it helped a lot. Cool.
00:28:41
Speaker
So yeah, I got that knife done and then I spent the rest of the week and just, just, I forgot how long, like how you rat hole on some, well, at least I do, on some aspects of knives. Like I was doing the dagger and like I spent an entire day just getting the shape and the profile of the guard.
00:29:06
Speaker
Because it's, you know, it's milling and it's surface grinding and then it's grinding and then more milling and slotting the guard and and hammering it on which took forever. um I had to do a bunch of little. There's kind you guys will see it in the build video in a couple of weeks but I had to like You know, there was a gap in the top of the guard because of the way the guard works. Cause I couldn't do the technique where you leave that little thin and then you hammer it on because it kind of goes up like this on the top of the guard. I'm drawing a little arrow, but anyway, so we all see it I couldn't do that. So literally took me.
00:29:49
Speaker
eight hours to do this guard. And then the, was it the next day? Um, I spent like way too long doing a spacer on the lathe and then ended up screwing up the first one doing another spacer. So literally I took like five hours to do a little spacer to slot a spacer and do a little tiny spacer. And then.
00:30:19
Speaker
Um, the whole next day. So basically it took me three days to do a guard, a spacer and a pommel. So that was crazy. Uh, but, uh, it's coming out really nice. And I did, um, I got a question. Yeah. You're saying that, okay, this three days for a guard and stuff. like How long is this supposed to take? Like, what's your, what's your point of reference? Because to me, it sounds like an appropriate amount of time.
00:30:46
Speaker
on a knife that of that quality caliber, however you want to say it, but it doesn't seem like a YouTube videos of other makers all watch. They always talk about this, you know, long laborious process of of that. I mean, if it's if it's ah a guard on a buoy knife, like I can I can crank one of those out in like.
00:31:08
Speaker
It's going to be hammered on in like two hours, under two hours. But you saw how complex the guard is for this. Yeah, yeah which is why I'm saying like it appropriately would be more than double, I guess. yeah Yeah, it's probably appropriate because it is really complicated. And I had to I actually had to pull out the new I have a new rotary table and I actually use the rotary table for part of this guard. So there's complexity here. I'm not complaining about the time it was.
00:31:34
Speaker
that it should have gone faster, but, you know, you just didn't just forget that if some things go that long. Yeah. Like my wife was way all week. So, you know, I was working in, you know, into the night and I I'm, you know, I after dinner, I go out in the shop and then I look down at my phone and it's eleven thirty and I'm still cranking away on the mill. um Trying to get things done, but right.
00:32:05
Speaker
But yeah yeah, but I love and Oh, and sorry. And I forgot the handle. The handle was the other thing I did that day with the spacer. And the handle is a block of carbon fiber.
00:32:19
Speaker
So it was it's a block of carbon fiber that's been turned on the lathe. I've never turned carbon fiber before. How'd that work? It made a fucking mess, is what I was gonna say. Like black powder over everything. It sounds like it. Yeah. it's I mean, it's not as bad as sanding it, um but of course I had to sand it on the lathe so it still was a mess.
00:32:44
Speaker
But it looks amazing, and it's only sanded to 220. It looks amazing already, and I haven't done any. It's going to get spiral fluted wire in my on the handle. So it's just solid sanded that 220. Yeah. so it But it looks really cool. Just like checkered or basket. It's a regular twill weave. What do we call it? Yeah. But um because it's a basket, we've pattern on the plate, right? Yeah.
00:33:12
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So wo yeah, I'm excited at how this dagger is going to come out. There's a little ball that goes that screws into the very end of the pommel. So it's like a little sphere that's about a quarter inch across that screws into the very end of the pommel. And that little ball is pure silver. So I had turned a pure silver ball on the lathe so that anyway, it's a whole thing that took me a whole day to do.
00:33:41
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to get that done yesterday. um Yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. um Like using the foundry, melting the silver, pouring it over the head of a bolt so that I could then form it on the lathe so that I could screw it into the back of the pommel. And of course you got to tap the back of the pommel and blah, blah, blah. So yeah, but I think it's going to be cool. Yeah.
00:34:11
Speaker
So there's lots of little embellishments. I'm trying to get better at the little embellishments on the blade on, you know, on these builds and go further, go to master Smith quality embellishments on a blade, not just, you know, do do the minimum. I want this to pop. I want it to really, you know, jump. You don't want to do lame ass journeyman quality.
00:34:43
Speaker
Some of the journeyman stuff's incredible, but I'm just trying to, I'm trying to ratchet things up now. And I'm not saying this is going to be a, it it will not be a master. It wouldn't qualify as a master Smith dagger anyway, but, um, I'm, I'm trying to get to that level. I'm trying to yeah amp things up a bit.
00:35:03
Speaker
Yeah. So cool. Something else cool that happened. um Mike Bagnino gave me a call. And this was when was this Saturday? Yeah, I guess it was Saturday. And said, um actually, no, he didn't call me he sent me a picture and a text and said, Hey, you interested in any wood and he sent me a picture of a drawer, like a tool chest drawer that had a shit ton of wood in it. And I'm like,
00:35:38
Speaker
Like, are you getting rid of this? like and and I didn't think it was his, but it turns out um a guy he knows, a a maker and collector, um is he's just really old. He's getting out of it. Unfortunately, he's going through some dementia and so his wife's just selling off a bunch of of his stuff that he's just not going to use. So um I got, you know I was talking to her, so I i picked up.
00:36:08
Speaker
I bought all of the wood in one fell swoop. So it's 215 sets of scales and like 25 blocks. Nice. Yeah. I spent a lot of money on it, but it's way cheaper than obviously what I have probably a third of if I was paying for this stuff.
00:36:32
Speaker
So now I'm literally going to and have to buy a new tool chest to put this wood in um when I get it. So I'm excited and I ah you know obviously haven't seen it all, but yeah, I'm pretty excited. I might actually have to put a bunch of it up for sale because it's more than I would ever use. and As you know, I don't use scales as much as I use blocks. I know somebody who does. Yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
but There's some nice iron wood. There's so of a ton of Coca-Cola. There's a bunch of burl stuff. It's mostly wood. So nice. We'll see when I get it. Cool.
00:37:12
Speaker
Yeah. So that was, that's a score. That's a, that's a good score. Don't let me just gloss over that without giving you some attaboys and yeah awesomes there. That's, that's a hell of a deal right there. Whatever the value was, but yeah. Yeah. It was, it was a good deal. Do you ever think even, okay. I have a question. So all you.
00:37:34
Speaker
There's so many good jokes here for all you would connoisseurs.
00:37:42
Speaker
I personally think I have way more than I need currently. Right. I know that you're not hurting in that department right now. Right. Now, will you not purchase look and and come on stop now. i will I will admit I have a problem.
00:38:07
Speaker
Good. That's the first step, buddy. Now recovery is possible once you've admitted that. Because I was going to say, if I came home with 215 blocks, I would not stop anything I do when I go to Blade Show or I go out somewhere and I'm looking for something like, you know, or Rob's wild little pop-up or I'm, you know, doing one of my favorite things to do. And that's to go visit Maritime Knife Supply and check out Lawrence and all of his amazing handle material from wood G10 to you know, carbon fiber and everything else you need for knife making needs for grinders, heat treating ovens.
00:38:44
Speaker
tools, hammers, ah you name it, he's got it, steel, he'll pre-cut your steel for um down to Damascus ready sizes to just take that right out of your your time. You just, that ultimate time saver. It's such a beautiful, beautiful service that he does provide. um Over at Maritime Knife Supply.
00:39:06
Speaker
crazy fast shipping and Lawrence is a stellar dude. So go check out maritime knife supply and tell them the boys at Triple T sent you. Yep. So now I'm going to be shopping for a new tool chest. I think I got to figure what I'm going to put it. I know where I'm going to put it, but Lawrence carry tool sheds.
00:39:28
Speaker
I think the shipping, but I don't know that I want to pay the shipping all the way from Canada. on it No, dude, for for a tool, tool chest, a toolbox, whatever you're damn Canadians. Marketplace all day. you You find some crazy deals for stuff like that. Yeah. But I'm looking for a specific size because I know where it's, you know, um you know where my steel rack is?
00:39:54
Speaker
I do. I hate that steel rack because it gets super dusty and everything's fucking disorganized. There's G10. I want to put. um Take that wire rack out and put a tool chest there with drawers, but I want it to fit.
00:40:10
Speaker
there. Yeah. So I got to look at some specific sizes. But if I find if I find one, I will check marketplace. If I find one that's the right size, then I'll pick it up. It's good. I am not above getting a used tool chest. I'm fine with that. I am the only The one that's not used that I have is the one that I bought when I first wanted to be become a man and have a tool, a toolbox in my house. And I spent way too much money on that thing, but I love it. It's really good. So that's cool, man. Awesome. Good for you. Yeah. I'm excited to get all that stuff. And actually, I i actually enjoy reorganizing the shop. Like,
00:40:55
Speaker
Whenever, whenever, and it's always based on necessity, right? Like something happens, I buy a new tool and then I got to figure out where to put it. And once I figure out where to put it in my little plan, then I get really excited because that it usually involves buying shit and moving shit around. And, uh, like when I bought the the big standup surface grinder, and figured out where I was going to put it, then I'm like, Oh, okay. And then we're going to build racks over here. What the hell was there before?
00:41:22
Speaker
Uh, what the hell was there before? Oh, my grant, my welder was there. No, wait, I remember. I don't remember either. I just, it just dawned on me at that ask. I really don't remember. Oh yeah. I don't remember. Um, it was obviously really important, whatever. It was so important. I don't think anything was there.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah, i don't I don't know. I think my welders were there. Oh, and I i had the oxy acetylene tank there. and like a ladder or something dumb. But yeah, anyway, I'm looking forward to organizing that because I was over there looking for some g 10 and I store my g 10 with like my copper and and all of that shit and it's all dusty and grimy and because it's kind of open. It's an open rack. So of course it gets crap all over it. And so yeah, I'm looking forward to a chest with drawers. Nice.
00:42:26
Speaker
and then that'll probably free up the drawer in my other tool chest that has my current wood in it, so I'll be able to put more tools over there. So, there's there's logic here. Nice. Nice. Spending my shit on Sunday, I went back out.
00:42:44
Speaker
um I think my son's at the age, you might be able to relate, but if he asks me to do anything with him, I just say yes, no. Enjoy whatever a time you can get yeah, whatever it is, right because he's just now When he was like 12 to 14 ish like he was really into his friends and like we are right like and he just went down like wow that This fool don't want nothing to do with dad. All right. So anyways, he started golfing again I've been talking about it, you know weekly now, but he's like don't want to golf this week I'm like, yes, let's go. So we went out on Sunday and
00:43:24
Speaker
I had a good time. I still still suck at golf. Um, and then I was telling last week, I was talking about my, I went and got fitted for a new driver. So the last couple of rounds I've played, I've only used my three wood and I hit that thing. Well, it's not probably out driving the lot of people with their driver, but it's still not my driver. Right. And, uh, Hmm.
00:43:53
Speaker
So, okay. So I had had something happen to me for the first time ever on a golf. So if you're actually keeping score with golf, which is like really hard to get people to actually keep a legitimate score, like you hit one into the woods. Oh, like real scoring. Yeah. Like that ball's gone. You have to take a drop and then you're going to hit another one. That's your third shot. Right. So it was, I was playing okay. i had You know, but it doesn't matter.
00:44:22
Speaker
It was playing okay. And I got to like, I think it was hole 17 or 16 or something like that. And it's a water hole and, uh, one into the water drop one hitting three from the T.
00:44:38
Speaker
Bloop, hit that one in the water, five drop four, hit five, hit that one into the water, drop six, hitting seven. So I hit from from the T on a par three, I was at seven and then I stuck the green, but yeah. When you really, really keep score, it's really hard to score.
00:45:00
Speaker
ah That's why they say it's a gentleman's game. But after that, I was like, fuck this. I was like, I'm that my my rounds trash. I'm not gonna know what's gonna happen here. So I pull out my old driver. I'm like, whatever. And I just go after it. And I just bombed it through the fairway. And I'm like, i don't I don't have an answer for that because It wasn't working. So maybe I just, you know, got it pure. This one swing and and what you, but you know, the driver, I didn't buy a new one. Oh, you got fitted for me. Yeah, but it's like $600. I'm like, yeah, that's, that's going to have to wait for a while. we That's not ah in the ah necessity cart right now. So that's why I was using my three wood, but I just pulled the old, the old one out. That's all dented up and I fucking blasted the ball. And I'm like, the guy that we were golfing with a random
00:45:56
Speaker
And he's like, why weren't you using that all day again? Like, what was that about? And I'm like, it's broke. I mean, it that worked that time, but. So maybe maybe it wasn't the club. Is that what you're saying? It could be. I mean, if I hit it off the toe, which.
00:46:14
Speaker
I'm apparently do a lot. It's not going to go at least the front half of the club. Like, yeah, like you't hit off the heel I'd say about 75% of it's good.
00:46:25
Speaker
But, uh, yeah. So anyways, that happened. I thought that was funny. I chuckled pretty good after hitting three balls under the water and having my son whoop my ass. Um, but that was fun. And then I had bought him a, uh,
00:46:40
Speaker
He has a very old set when he was like eight or nine, when when we were golfing a lot. And he's 16 now, so he's obviously outgrown him. So I had an older set that I'm letting him use now. But we went out one time and he's got like, it looks like ah ah a little people putter. It's so tiny compared to, like it was perfect for him, you know, eight years ago, but.
00:47:09
Speaker
Not so much now. So I bought him a new putter when we were out in Monterey a couple weeks back. A cheap one. And he wanted a new grip for it. So we were talking about it. And I've always taken those things to, you know, a golf shop to to get them re-gripped. But he bought some stuff off of Amazon. So today for the first time, we, we re gripped, um, his putter and he got an iron man, a super stroke iron man, putter grip, which is pretty damn cool. Big old fatty one, but that shit is simple.
00:47:43
Speaker
It's like really amazing when you have a vice in your shop and all the, the tools you need to like, you know, do some basic, simple things. Cause if you make knives, you can do anything, right? So, so re gripping clubs. I'm about to start a business here.
00:48:03
Speaker
Really? No, but I'll still probably pay it. But as much as I'm going to start a jet ski research, I still go back and forth. Like, do I really want to do 13 clubs of my own? Like, cause it was, it was really simple, but I'm sure. Yeah. But it's like 30 bucks, like 15, 20 bucks and labor per club or something like that. Or it ends up, it ends up being like 150 bucks to get all your clubs regripped.
00:48:32
Speaker
<unk>s So there's some serious cost savings there. So anyways, I thought that was cool. That's what we did today. And I woke up this morning on Labor Day and I was like, I want steak and eggs, but I didn't want to go out. So went to the store and got some New York strips. so I'm a ribeye guy. But ribeyes are costly. Yeah, they are. Yeah, it's like. And and I don't normally i don't blink an eye at it, but That was side by side two packages. One was a two rib eyes or three New York strips and the strips were literally half the cost. It was like 40 versus 20 bucks. And if, but if you're having steak and eggs and ah New York is actually, I think a better cut. I mean.
00:49:18
Speaker
The rib eye has just got so much fat in it. It's not, I don't think it's a great cut for steak and eggs. I want more steak and that's a dinner cut to me. I i think about every time More than, more commonly than not, you're going to see a New York on there too. Plus keeps the cost down because you don't want a, you know, $60 breakfast. Stake and eggs. Anyways, that's what I did. And then I used my, my, uh, Calb Iron steak turner, uh, this morning and. Nice. Yeah. Add some steak and eggs and, and papas this morning. It was fantastic. It was, it was great, but I really love that steak turner.
00:50:01
Speaker
I don't know how I got by my entire life without ever having one. Grabbing tongs to flip steaks. What kind of shit is that? Yeah. Some janky fork. Some janky ass fork. Yeah. So that was pretty cool. Cool. Yeah. No, what are we doing? Oh, we went to Starbucks this morning. That's what we did.
00:50:20
Speaker
This morning? Yeah, we went to Starbucks this morning because we we're out of milk. So we had no choice. And the dog ate half my sandwich. So yeah she always does. There you go. Dogs did not. Well, they got a little bit of steak, but very little. Yeah, I actually did something with the boys when did we do. Oh, Saturday, we went to an escape room. Have you ever been to an escape room? I have not. It's actually really fun. Is it claustrophobic?
00:50:49
Speaker
No, not at all. That's that's what I think about like escape. Nah, pass. No, it's not trying to be behind a door. I can't get out of it. No, it's not like that. It's like it's all puzzles. You're having to solve puzzles to get out.
00:51:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think they do like a lot of corporate team building events with stuff like that. I've done one. I took my team once to one. um But yeah, I think this is the the fourth one I've done, but it was fun. It was fun with the boys. we we I think we we were probably we probably needed about four more minutes to finish it. And we were there with like this other group of five that had never done one.
00:51:32
Speaker
And honestly didn't really know how things were going. Um, you know, they just weren't as organ like once you've done them a few times, you know, you know, you know, the drill, you know, Oh, you need to solve this puzzle and you have to be kind of systematic about
Disneyland Plans and Reflection
00:51:48
Speaker
things. And they were like all over the place, but, it was fun. The boys had a good time. Nice.
00:51:55
Speaker
Yeah. and it sounds true So that was our weekend. So, oh, and it's my son's birthday today, by the way. Which one? Parker. Happy B day, Parker. What is he now? 27? 27. Parker's my youngest and he's 19. Wow. Yeah. And Logan is the oldest. He will be 21 next month.
00:52:26
Speaker
19 and 21. That's crazy. Yeah. Try 28, 22 and 16. Yeah. You're old, man. I'm hella old. That's why I'm looking forward to going to Disneyland in a couple of weeks. I ended this month with my middle daughter, um, the week before we go to maker's camp. Cause again, if they're asking me to do something, i's it's just, yes. What's your favorite part of Disney?
00:52:55
Speaker
I don't really not have a bad part. No, I mean, I'll get real to me. Honestly, the best part of Disneyland is walking down Main Street in the morning with my kids and then leaving. Dragging them out of there or stuff, but that's a super, super emotional kind of connecting reminds me when I was a kid when my dad took me and I always have a really. ah a good feeling about life and where I'm at when when I did that with the but the kids. And they're all, ah my kids are ah spaced out enough to where like each one of them would be on my shoulder at different different trips, you know? So that was cool. But I love the beignets. That's really my my favorite part. My favorite dessert. Yeah, I'll always do my honorary,
00:53:50
Speaker
pretend like I'm cocaine bear with the powdered sugar. Okay. okay we We have a title for this episode. yeahca back game bay Every time I'm like, ah Oh, French quarter ain't got nothing on me, man. Have you been in new Orleans before? I have. Yeah.
00:54:18
Speaker
That is a place for young people. I was going to say I was 19 and I drove across the country from California and I took a bunch of weed, just hit the road across the country. That that was an event. I was an event, slept in a parking lot for three days just to go see some, uh, some boobies in and New Orleans. Yeah. Yeah. I did my first trip to New Orleans when I was.
00:54:44
Speaker
52. That is way too old to be going to New Orleans. Man, i have some great I have some great stories from there. No, sorry, was I 15? I might have been 50 or 49. It's been a while. um Yeah, New Orleans is for the young. new For sure. I would i would not fare very well to a shit hole.
00:55:07
Speaker
Yeah, I had. Yeah, I come from this shitty part of the country. And we went all the way over there without a hotel room and trying to find a hotel room. And during Mardi Gras, we were there on Fat Tuesday. It was not it's not recommendable. Like I said, we ended up sleeping in a parking lot on Canal Street, right? Like two blocks from from Bourbon Street. And we pulled into the parking lot and I look at the attendant, I'm like,
00:55:35
Speaker
I just drove across the country. We ain't got nowhere to sleep. Like, can I just keep my car here? And he's like, dude, I don't give a fuck what you do. Just be here at six o'clock in the morning. Give me 20 bucks and Bob's your uncle. You see how I did that? And that's what it was. And every parking attendant worked three for two, two nights. Yeah. too So we did a limp back there by six o'clock to fall asleep. And don't get me wrong, New Orleans, the city is nice. It's Bourbon Street that is just disgusting. Like, yeah, you can wander way. You can wander too far down Bourbon Street and find he yourself an entire. Entirely different atmosphere. Yeah, I promise. Yeah, it's like bar bar chicken place.
00:56:24
Speaker
yeah a place to buy hurricanes, bar, bar. Yeah. I was just going to say, like I got to experience no part of the actual New Orleans while I was there. I ate zero beignets. I didn't, you know, it was all about partying. So we we hit a lot of good restaurants when we were there. So yeah. And gambled it.
00:56:46
Speaker
wanted to. But yeah, that's, that's, that's on the the agenda right before makers camp. And then I got to squeeze in a trip to Reno here in a couple weeks too. So Reno. Oh, yeah, you're going up to see Mr. Rick. Yeah. I'm I'm already, like I said, last week, feeling time pressured. Uh, it's now September. Uh, I guess I should start on my apocalyptic challenge build. Um, so I'm thinking next week I'll start on it. That gives me. When is that? When does that drop? You got to do that before we leave? Uh, yeah. Well, I want it. Yeah. Cause it's.
00:57:26
Speaker
It's, I want to have the bill done by maker camp, which is the 10th. And then the videos need to drop. I think it's the 19th. I'm doing that from memory. It's right around 19th, 20th or something like that. Maybe the videos are dude, 19th, 19th. And they premiere the 20th or something. Gotcha. But, uh, something like that. But I'd like to just have the week to edit the video. But, um,
00:57:52
Speaker
Yeah. Cause I, I'm not going to be doing it continuously. So once I get, you know, I get the steel, um, forged and it's in blade shape and then I can just putter around on different things while I'm, you know, between other projects in the shop. But, um,
00:58:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm seeing some really good progress on the Facebook group from guys, um, uh, just getting busy with their builds, uh, totally different takes. the The great thing about this challenge is more than any challenge so far, it's wide open. Like you can make anything, but there's literally no parameters on this one because.
00:58:39
Speaker
It's not like there's no theme. There's not like a Viking theme. Like you can make, you can make an axe. You can make a, you know, you can make a club, but you can make a sword and you can make a ah javelin. Like there's pretty much any weapon that you can make a baseball bat with barbed wire around it. I was going to say somebody better making a Negan bat. Somebody better making Negan bat. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. That's the name of it. Yeah.
00:59:08
Speaker
But that kind of brings me, i' I'm going to jump right into Maker Spotlight because the reason I picked this Maker Spotlight this week is because of his build for the apocalyptic challenge.
Highlight on Mark Bishop's Battle Axe
00:59:22
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um And no, it's not going to sway me. I'm not the only judge voting, but um but I was really impressed. I thought it was really cool.
00:59:29
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So I'll jump in my maker spotlight is, uh, M Bishop blades. So M Bishop blades. And that's Mark Bishop. He's actually placed before in a previous challenges.
00:59:46
Speaker
but um he's got 1,271 followers. um But his most recent post is the most amazing um ah build, like looking at it. I love this thing. I think it is so cool. It is this giant double-bladed battle acts from hell. Um, it looks like it could have been on the set of, um, Furiosa or something like it, it is really cool. So, uh, go check out Mark. And, uh, I think he's a definite contender to win the, the viewers portion of the apocalyptic challenge. That thing is a beast. It's really cool. It's really cool. It looks awesome. It's huge and all kinds of pointy and sharp looking.
01:00:38
Speaker
but I'm scrolling around here and looking at, at the rest of his stuff too. And oh yeah, he's he's some really, really good stuff. Yeah. he He's a great maker. Um, yeah, he's, he and he's been making for a while. Like he's got like 500 and some posts on Instagram. So, uh, yeah, he's, he's been around a while. Really good sheath maker as well. So yeah, go, go, go check out Mark's, um,
01:01:05
Speaker
Um, Instagram, uh, give him a follow, um, really, really good maker. And, uh, I love to see his work in the, in these challenges. Yeah. I follow him already. So that's good. And he's a vet. Love that. Thank you, sir. All right. Who you got this week? Um, I have my buddy.
01:01:33
Speaker
Tony Satani from Hourglass Knives. I was going through here and thinking about... ah So every now and again, like i want I want to do... The Maker Spotlight is for many reasons, right? To get eyes on other people's stuff and let the other seven people know that, you know, who are kind of digging whatever's moving us at the moment. but You know, on the, our very first episode, I had mentioned that, um, I was introduced to Tony when I very first started making by somebody at work and he was kind enough to kind of take me under his wing for a little while. Um, actually had me over to his his house in and Idaho.
01:02:18
Speaker
and spent the weekend and kind of just got the ah the knife making school from Tony. Amazing maker, ah been on the cover a blade a few times, but.
01:02:30
Speaker
um This is my speed with this guy and I think you guys should go check him out. So that is hourglass knives on Instagram and um amazing stories. Tony's an awesome dude. He's hilarious. Pretty infectious personality, man. You talk to him, you're you're definitely gonna be laughing. But yeah, go check out his stuff. He has 3,154 followers.
01:02:59
Speaker
And yeah, let's bump that up and show him some love. So that's who I got. He does awesome stuff. Yeah, he does. Good. ah One of my ah you and him are probably the most influential people in as far as mentorship that I've that I had out of the gate. I have broadened that base by a lot you know as of today. But when when I first hit the hit the gates, I was so lucky to to be able to to meet you and and him. So I owe a lot ah to both of you. So love you, Tony.
01:03:42
Speaker
Um, we have a listener question today. Yeah. Tell me about, oh, I got a poll question and it says, Tool steel versus high carbon steel. What are the pros and cons for use in bladesmithing for stock removal and forging? Also, what ah would you recommend for tool steel? This is coming out of, I believe, New Zealand, ah where he says high carbon is very hard to come by. So um looks like tool steel is the easier
01:04:20
Speaker
is easier to be sourced. um So I got the question. And as always, if it is out of my realm, I will say to people that is definitely a question for Dennis. So I figured I'd bring it up and we would chat about it. And I personally have never used any tool still.
01:04:40
Speaker
So zero experience, I've only used high carbon and stainless. um And I'm curious actually, what your thoughts are on this? Well, I mean, and let's be clear, like a tool steel versus a high carbon steel tool steels are typically high carbon steels, right? Like, right. ah The only The only reason why you would say one is a tool steel versus a high carbon steel is what you make with it. um The ones here in the US s that we're probably the most familiar with is O1, W1 and W2. And, you know, the only other one that I think of is D2. Like those are, those are- D2 is a stainless though, right? Yeah, so tool steel. um It's not,
01:05:27
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this could good This could be one of those, as Fader would say, hot takes. okay Generally, okay my opinion is that tool steels are not necessarily the best unless they have a particular property that you're looking for.
01:05:45
Speaker
They're meant for making tools. They're not necessarily meant for holding an edge like a knife would. Um, yeah. Like I don't, and people are going to hate me. I don't like, Oh one, I don't, you know, it's a tough steal. And maybe if you were making a Bushcraft knife or something like that, I, it's not like I'm going to use Oh one for a chef knife or a buoy or something. I just don't like that.
01:06:11
Speaker
the 01 steel, like a tool steel. Now, there may be other tool steels with other properties that I don't know. I only know about 01, W1, W2. I use W2 all the time, but only because I want a really great hormone. It's a decent steel. it um you know it's It's got some similar properties to 1095.
01:06:34
Speaker
um It's very fast quenching steel. It does hold a great edge. ah Is it the absolute best? Is it better than every other high carbon steel? No, um but it does produce very nice hormones because of its chemical properties.
01:06:51
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Would I is there any is there any sorry to cut you off? Is there any difference in like hard nobility is no like a tool still doesn't necessarily need to be There's no hrc, right? There's no yeah that's right. There's no no definition of this is a tool steel and this is a high carbon steel So the properties don't lend its I mean, I think that's what like the super steels that we're working with maggot and all that stuff those that mixture or recipe lends itself to higher hardenability, right? Higher hardenability and edge retention. And edge retention, right? Yeah. As opposed to fine tuned, right? The tool steels you want, you know, you're you're not typically for tools.
01:07:31
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like drill rods and like you're not going for really thin edges where you need really high like you're not going brittleness is not as much of a factor you're not you're not sharpening it to a thin blade like a chef knife you don't hear a one on a chef knife okay but a chisel is different or a you know something that has a really stout edge, but you want it to retain that edge longer. That's where the tool steels come in.
01:08:03
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At least in my opinion, I'm not an expert. I don't use a lot of tool steels. The ones that I do use, like, like I said, w two is probably the most common one that's used here in the U S and it's for hormones. Um, and yeah, it's great for, I used w two on buoys all the time. Um,
01:08:25
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And people use it on chef knives all the time. So like Trey at Third Hill Customs, that's his steel. Like that's his go-to steel, W2. He can do excellent things with W2.
01:08:37
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um so You know, I think you have to look at the the properties of the steel, not necessarily the designation of tool steel versus high carbon. Um, every steel is going to be different. Some are going to be used for different things. So I don't know that it's a blanket term that I would, um, you know, if someone showed me a steel and said, is this a tool seal or high carbon steel?
01:09:05
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You know, I don't know every steel, but I don't normally think of them that way. I would usually look them up, see what they're used for, see what their chemical properties are and go from there. right You know, like 1095 is used for springs. 1095 is used for blades. 1095, it has a lot of uses. 5160 is used for a lot of springs. Like I would see what it's used for. And is that applicable to what I want to make?
01:09:35
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Because, I mean, you don't see a lot of chef knives made out of 5160 either. It's known to be a tough steal, but you don't see a lot of people making chef knives out of it. are It doesn't have an extremely high harden ability that you would want for a chef knife.
01:09:53
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Gotcha. But anyway, that's mine my,000 foot view on it. um But as far as I don't know exactly what he means about high carbon is very hard to get, but tool steel is not. It kind of depends what he means by that. Maybe there's some different designations in New Zealand.
01:10:13
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that are tool steel, because there are some tool steels that are much lower carbon, like like the um an axle in a car. like That's hardened, but it's not hardened for something you would make a blade for.
01:10:33
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Right. are Yeah, you could use it. It's not going to make that great of a blade. It's great for doing like ah an axle or I don't know, all the other parts of it.
01:10:46
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um Not sway bars. I forget, but there's some parts of cars that people say, Oh, that'd be no, no, it, it's hardenable steel, but it's not knife steel. It's not going to go to 59 or 60. You might get it to 50. That's not going to.
01:11:03
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Pun intended, that's not going to cut it.
01:11:07
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a you yeah So, I mean, tan to try to answer the question, it totally depends what what he means by tool steel. It's hard to to answer. Sure. But I think it's good it's ah great for clarification on maybe he's he's looking for, you know, some differences between some things that are too like for it to even matter, you know?
01:11:32
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Yeah. So that's cool. That came from a tie underscore Johnson 83. Um, I think it's Tyron Johnson. Uh, and I think it's in New Zealand. So, but anyways, uh, thank you for the question, sir. And if anybody else has any other questions, feel free to hit us up, um, on that on absolutely on rememberable, uh, email.
01:11:57
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that Dennis created or you can take the easy route and uh use the uh the IG. Use the IG because I've decommissioned the email so we don't even talk about the email anymore since I got so much shit for it. We talk about this ridiculous email. I think it was triplet dot underscore dot. No, there was no underscore. Knife makers for podcast triplet dot Tyrone. Echo blades at underscore dot.
01:12:25
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Gmail. It was beautiful. I think we get it complicated. You know, it's you know, it's not complicated. Tell me.
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buying steel from Baker forge. That's not complicated. All you do is get the app, know what's coming, get the app and get ah aware of the drops a day before everybody else, because you you can buy them through the app. So if you're looking for the most amazing steels out there, copper, bronze, Damascus, everything, you name it.
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go check out Baker Forge and Tool. um I haven't, is this the Riptide Ultra? is this No, it's part of the head to head challenge. headhead Yeah. yeah yeah and we had in actually They didn't actually have a drop this weekend, but they did have a really good Labor Day sale that was today. So by the time when you get this tomorrow, you will have missed it.
01:13:25
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But hopefully you took advantage of of that sale um and you were super smart and you tried to double dip. I don't know if this is possible, but you can always use the discount code triple t 10 for all your future purchases um for Gator piss and all the other awesome stuff that they they do have.
01:13:47
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Um, but they, this week up in their head to head, um, challenges for all of their patterns is a riptide ultra ripple versus copper, my raindrop.
01:14:00
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Um, this has been going on for a little while now. Um, I'll try to catch us back up, uh, in the brackets, but, uh, this is up this week. So make sure you go get your vote in so we can, uh, see what pattern reigns supreme. Hmm. Riptide ultra. I don't know that one.
01:14:22
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And he also did the ah the Ask Me Anything ah dropped the this weekend as well. So if you haven't checked that out, go ah check out the post. um And I did read that you can um ask more questions in the comments if you're curious for a particular item that wasn't brought up. And we also did hear that who's the funniest guy in the shop. And this came down to, I believe, Will and somebody named Bob. Sounds like we got a new Baker a team member named Bob. Is that your uncle? It's somebody's uncle. It's somebody's uncle. But yeah, from what I hear, we'll be meeting Bob here soon, but but welcome to the team, man. And for sure.
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01:16:19
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The fat penis on the scene. and We bought to give me, you should be a rapper. That's right. Yeah. We'll have to not be this week though, because I'm sorry to report.
01:16:37
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Summers being a little bitch. Just going to say it's, it's not letting go. No, I think we're back up to, I'm about up to 106. 106. Yep. God, one mountain range and it's like desert. It's going to be a hundred plus tomorrow, a hundred plus Tuesday.
01:16:59
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All the way through Thursday, I think is going to be the, the scorcher. So, well, I'm glad I don't have to forge anything and I'm doing work on fittings for all this week. Yeah, it was, it was nice this weekend. It wasn't that bad at all. No, I had, I had the, the, the garage open and the, you know, all day Saturday, uh, just working away. It was beautiful. I can't wait to get back to that all the time.
01:17:23
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Yeah, same. It's almost here. I think after this last, this, this should be the last one, but who knows? There was a time when we didn't have rain for like five years. So we'll see. Yeah. I'm going to get those jet skis done just when it, uh, it's too cold to put them in the water. Yeah. You can't, you can't use the Jared, uh,
01:17:50
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timeline for projects, if you're trying to get them in the water. where I know. Oh, man. So, yeah, all I got to do is get that sheath dialed in. So I will definitely figure out some sometime this week. And then it's Sharpen. And my favorite part is to reveal the beautiful handle material ah with Pelican paste. I'm going to lather that thing up with some Pelican oil. And I believe if you're about to finish up any knives, leather, whatever it is that you you can apply some Pelican paste to, go do that.
01:18:35
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um Travis has hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand-solved and soap now. um And I did overhear in a podcast that I think he's working with the DIY Europe guys heard that they're going to be ah making that recipe available overseas. So congrats on that. That's exciting stuff for for our listeners across the pond. um But For all of your premium wax needs, make sure you go check out Pelican Pace, PelicanPace.com, and you can use the discount code TTT10 for 10% off your next purchase. Look at Travis. Florida a man goes worldwide. It's a beautiful thing.
Custom Knife Making Insights
01:19:23
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Hey, and when you're doing that, when you're burnishing the edges of that sheath, after you burnish the edges, put some of that soft wax on it and it'll seal it up nice. Absolutely. I got the,
01:19:37
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I ordered a pretty big shipment. I got a bunch of it, so I'm ready to go. And I'm really excited. This chef knife that I'm about to wrap up will be the first knife that I deliver with my custom Echo blades soft wax tin. Oh, that's right. Nice. So nice. Oh, that's what I was going to I wanted to bring that up. So we were talking about so I made some profile modifications,
01:20:08
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No. Yeah. I know. Surprise. To ah the ah handle on my on my chef knife, which I'm thinking I'm going to call the reverb. I don't know. The reverb. So um at any rate, the ah
01:20:26
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I had this weird it's not weird but I had a what I liked on paper with this like flared out um on the ass end of the handle and I kept getting pretty regular feedback from makers not so much end users, but makers that this potentially has some uncomfortable um aspects to the to the grip when when they have it, when it's in the hand. um So I was weighing going back and forth and you know kind of taking that into consideration.
01:21:02
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Um, so I reprofiled the back and kind of thinned it up and ah Dennis and I were actually looking at him earlier this week and we were going kind of back and forth with, uh, the handle length to where it does have like a little, um, help me out, Dennis. That was that thing. Swoopy. Yeah. Thank you. Cause that's exactly what I was going to say. Well, swoopy deal on the back that can kind of lock in your hand.
01:21:28
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Um, but the length of that, uh, is so.
01:21:35
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Personable, I guess, you know, like, uh, what is that word I'm looking for? you I think you're doing a preference. Yeah. Yeah. It comes down to preference. Um, so for guys with larger hands, like Dennis and I, I was feeling like it was a little, little too tight. Um, but you know, maybe somebody with a little smaller grip.
01:21:58
Speaker
It's going to be perfect. So I actually got the opportunity. The guy that I golfed with is is that that knife is for him. So I. yeah I ah you know what I did, too.
01:22:12
Speaker
I'm solely sidetracking here, but I I put I brought the knife to him and let him hold it. And he was just like, and it it locked right into his hand. Like, perfect. Not not tight at all. I could see some stuff. So I was like, it's just is one of those things like I think the user, you know, ah for it to have a template of an overall profile, I think you would want to probably go on the larger side to be safe. Right. um But since we are custom knife makers that I am anyways, I don't I haven't watered Jared a ah particular pattern yet. But ah you know, so everyone that I'm making is, you know, is is profiled on the bandsong or forged or however the hell I'm doing it. But um I got the bevels ground, I ground both sides to 220 and I have the edge at just about 10th hour right now. And
01:23:10
Speaker
I have a because I was lazy. um I have a ah double time lazy. I didn't want to bust out the sharpening attachment. The perfect the perfect sharpening attachment. I didn't want to bust out the the Wicked Edge. So I have a ah very simple Spyderco Sharp Maker, which is two stones that sit on a V like this. okay And it's perfect for like just tuning up your knives, ah your pocket knives on everything and and get the edge that's already done up. um So instead of probably doing one of the simpler functions, I just
01:23:52
Speaker
took that edge and I kind of ran through the ah progression there and put a very slight edge on it. and i took it to the kitchen and started chopping up some shit with it. Not even sharp. Like it wasn't cutting air or anything, but I started, uh, you know, i'm just checking the functionality of how it was cutting through meat and and some vegetables, but like butter, dude, even without like an edge, I was so, I'm so happy that it worked out that way. Um, but I did put that in his hands. Well, I was just wanting to bring that up to you because we were going, you know, like,
01:24:24
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It could, I probably will going forward and make, make the handle just a tad longer. Um, quarter inch, maybe not even much, but, uh, I thought it was interesting that it just fit right in there for him. So yeah, it's totally depends on who's going to be holding it. Like, I think, um, um, Noah and I have had this discussion or we've,
01:24:48
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chatted before, but you know, you put, you put a knife into like your wife's hand or something like that. And they always want like the handles too big or something like that. It's great to have the person you can fit together with the knife and put it in their hand, but I'm not sure how much of that you. Yeah, that's a, yeah, that's, I'm sure that doesn't happen often, I guess. Yeah.
01:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, that's good. Um, yeah, I get my shipment from Lawrence from maritime, uh, tomorrow. What's the, yeah, maybe tomorrow, Wednesday. So I'll be, uh, be able to work on that new chef knife, um, pattern, um, profile and see if I like it. So, and then starting nice, not this week, but next Thursday, not this, not in four days, but, um,
01:25:43
Speaker
Next Thursday, I'll start the folder series. So I'm looking forward to that. So stay tuned for that. If you want to learn how to make um liner lock a liner lock folder multi-step video, then tune into Triple T um and you'll get to see all that. Nice. And I did want to say your Triple T with the layered construction on Thursday was very cool. I think it was right on time for ah For me anyways, kind of on the heels of what we were just discussing a couple of weeks back, but, um, that was a good one. Awesome. So I'm glad it was helpful. I got a lot of good feedback. I did get a lot of good feedback on that one. People were.
01:26:29
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um, liken the info. So, uh, yeah, I'm going to start, you know, doing some topics that I've done in the far past and recycle some of those that, uh, newer viewers haven't seen. So yeah, I'll get on that. Yeah. Yeah. Since we don't weld our Kuma is all the way around anymore. Yeah, that's right.
01:26:56
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All right. You were lagging out here, buddy. I could barely hear you, but I do want to tell everybody that we'll be back next week. Come back and join us and thank you for hanging out with us. Sorry, this one went a little bit long, but we're good. All right.