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Summer is over and the kids are back to school!  Cooler days are on the way so time to get busy in the shop.  Let's get busy!  

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Your hosts:

Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:
IG: @tyrellknifeworks
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Website: https://www.tyrellknifeworks.com
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Transcript

Introduction and Energetic Start

00:00:16
tyrellknifeworks
Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Triple T for Knifemakers podcast. This is our official end of summer episode. This will be the last week of August. ah We will be heading into cooler days and those little bastards are headed back to school. Jared, how you been?
00:00:38
echo_blades
I'm good. That was an excellent intro.
00:00:43
echo_blades
I mean, the energy was just fierce. I am like in the edge of my seat. I mean, listeners, I just want you to so just take a moment and breathe after that high intensity moment right there.
00:01:00
tyrellknifeworks
I didn't even announce myself for you. So I
00:01:02
echo_blades
That's fuck, man. Right to the point, dude. Just amazing stuff, my friend.
00:01:08
tyrellknifeworks
had to wake everybody up.
00:01:09
echo_blades
Oh, God.

End of Summer Reflections

00:01:11
echo_blades
All right. Well, I'm fucking live and cracking now, dude. So let's go. Whoo. Let me take a deep breath here.
00:01:17
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I had to wake Jared up apparently.
00:01:18
echo_blades
All right. Yeah. I was fucking sleeping. Sorry for that foul language.
00:01:25
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah. Potty mouth.
00:01:26
echo_blades
Yeah. It is end of the summer and I can't believe that it's already gone. I mean, I'm, It was so hot that I just, whatever, let's get it over with. And I guess before it leaves, it's about to bang us with another 100 plus tomorrow.
00:01:42
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. the The reason it threw me is the other day I put it in an order at maritime. And then I get my email back and it says when it's going to ship and it says it's going to arrive in September. I'm like, fucking September. What the hell, Lawrence? And I'm like, oh, wait, that's next week. It's like September. I was thinking, like, isn't it still the 15th of August? Jeez.
00:02:08
echo_blades
Yeah, no, he's known for fast shipping too. So

Shipping Delays and Time Management

00:02:11
echo_blades
you had to have been living in the days.
00:02:12
tyrellknifeworks
No, no, he's doing well. It's coming Tuesday, something like that next Tuesday.
00:02:20
tyrellknifeworks
So a week, that's pretty good.
00:02:20
echo_blades
That's awesome.
00:02:21
echo_blades
Awesome.
00:02:23
echo_blades
Bro, I can't let this go, but you were 10 times more amped up about that than you were that fucking intro. but
00:02:33
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I actually practiced that one. So.
00:02:35
echo_blades
Oh, okay. ah Good God.
00:02:39
tyrellknifeworks
yeah You always say my intros are boring, so I had to ratchet it up.
00:02:39
echo_blades
nice
00:02:44
echo_blades
I never have said they're boring. How dare you? I would never do such a thing.
00:02:49
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, sorry, you say yours are way more animated than mine.
00:02:52
echo_blades
No, I've never even commented on that. I always say just knock them dead, buddy. Break a leg. But I am about to, uh, pop this right here.
00:03:02
echo_blades
If I can figure out how to do this cause I don't drink anymore. So popping, uh, this is kind of embarrassing here.
00:03:10
tyrellknifeworks
What are you trying to do?
00:03:12
echo_blades
Nothing.
00:03:14
tyrellknifeworks
Okay. Well, that's very anticlimactic for the audience.
00:03:19
echo_blades
Apparently. What did I do? All right.

Drink Antics and Audience Engagement

00:03:24
tyrellknifeworks
You know, this is an audio show, right?
00:03:24
echo_blades
Anyways.
00:03:24
echo_blades
Yeah. This is a, this is a visual show. Fuck me.
00:03:31
tyrellknifeworks
Okay, folks. Well, Jared fumbles with whatever it is he's doing, because I can't even understand what he's doing.
00:03:39
tyrellknifeworks
oh
00:03:39
echo_blades
What's going on?
00:03:40
tyrellknifeworks
Are you done So I'll tell you what I've been doing this week since you're busy screwing with something um Yeah, my wife's out of town as of Saturday morning, so all I did was work all weekend in the shop I
00:03:41
echo_blades
No, go, go. You're the show. Continue that phasing intro.
00:03:49
echo_blades
Oh my god. What a fucking fuck.
00:04:03
echo_blades
Did you hear that? I cannot believe that took that long. All I was trying to do was open this fantastic beverage Topo Chico to cheers my homie, Donny Dulevich, because we were talking about these today.
00:04:15
echo_blades
And I just literally spent that amount or whatever amount of time that was trying to open the thing up because it's an actual like bottle. So anyways.
00:04:24
tyrellknifeworks
Don't you have a pocket knife or something in your pocket?
00:04:27
echo_blades
Cheers. I'm not saying I was using one shut up.
00:04:32
echo_blades
Anyways, that's for you, Donny. Sorry. That was really, that was like Dennis's intro. It's totally anticlimactic.
00:04:40
tyrellknifeworks
Okay, now that we've lost absolutely everybody.
00:04:45
echo_blades
Well, they'll come back.
00:04:46
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I guess we'll

Knife Projects and Transformations

00:04:48
tyrellknifeworks
see.
00:04:48
echo_blades
We're down to six again. That's what you're saying. and All right.
00:04:49
tyrellknifeworks
ah yeah Yeah, we had seven.
00:04:52
echo_blades
Yeah, no, we were up to seven. All right. Sorry about that, guys. I'm here. I'm refreshed and ready to go. How was your week, Dennis Terrell?
00:05:01
tyrellknifeworks
Well, like I said, my wife left Saturday morning, so all I did was work in the shop all weekend. um But yeah, feeling very productive.
00:05:12
echo_blades
What did you get done, Dennis?
00:05:16
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I might as well open the show with this. Um, so let's talk about the triple T last week. So I talked about, um, that knife from, that I gave to my buddy, Dan, who was the best man in my wedding. And I reviewed that in the video and talked about how terrible it was. And, you know, my first Damascus first, um, hidden Tang first guard, all that stuff. And I had a whole bunch of people.
00:05:45
tyrellknifeworks
in the video say you should just redo it and make them a new knife and all of this and then after Looking at the knife for probably an hour after the video like the day after because it was still sitting on my table ah in the shop, I'm looking at it and looking at how thick it is and Realizing I could and then I took one of my templates and I laid one of my templates over it And then I got this wild bug up my ass to totally redo this knife. So that's going to be, I think the Saturday video build video is going to be me redoing this knife. So, uh, the knife is done. They actually just got to glue it up, but, uh, it is a dramatic transformation.
00:06:41
echo_blades
I can agree. You showed it to me the other day and I looked at it and I was like, I know that fuller. I know that fuller anywhere. And I was like, did you redo it? Cause I apparently I didn't, I didn't read the comments, but I did like the video, dude. I think that was really cool. Um, I think it was a, for your viewers anyways, I can only imagine it was very, very humble to show.
00:07:07
echo_blades
the transformation of what you the work you do now versus you know where we all started and you know how how you, with hard work and practice and dedication to the craft, you too can make some large strides in your quality of work.
00:07:23
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I did get many of those kinds of comments. So, uh, yeah, kudos to my wife for suggesting it.
00:07:23
echo_blades
um
00:07:26
echo_blades
And well-deserved. Yeah, I think that was really cool. because that You took that bitch on a diet.
00:07:36
echo_blades
She was a chunky, chunky thing.
00:07:39
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it was, I think when I measured it, it was exactly a quarter inch thick and, uh,
00:07:45
echo_blades
Yeah, I was gonna say that's like Brent. ah Dennis was the first one.
00:07:52
echo_blades
Yeah, the thicker, the full, the thicker click for Bowie.
00:07:52
tyrellknifeworks
That's right. that the The thicker Bowie, thicker Bowie, if you'd call it that.
00:07:56
echo_blades
Yeah, thicker Bowie.
00:08:01
tyrellknifeworks
But now, ah so the part that I need to to video is I'm going to present it to Dan and I'm going to video it, him opening it and seeing the knife.
00:08:16
tyrellknifeworks
But I think he's going to think it's a brand new knife. And then I'll tell him that, no, that's actually his knife and I just redid it and reprofiled it. And then I want to get his reaction and put that in the video.
00:08:28
echo_blades
man, I wish that was my knife because I would have a very different reaction.
00:08:28
tyrellknifeworks
And then I
00:08:37
echo_blades
He'll probably be grateful and all that stuff like normal people, but no, that's really cool, man. I think that's what I'm so curious. Um, did you have you edged it yet?
00:08:46
tyrellknifeworks
have not, that's tomorrow morning.
00:08:47
echo_blades
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Send me a pic because I'm um okay.
00:08:49
tyrellknifeworks
I just got to do finals final sanding etching and glue up.
00:08:54
echo_blades
I'm really interested to see, and again, I mean, it's always fun to make fun of you and talk shit, but like I'm really curious to see like ah the pattern and what it looks like. I'm pretty sure you lost a lot of layers and everything, but.
00:09:05
tyrellknifeworks
it I can kind of see a little bit of it. I think it look it's going to look more like a go my than it is. Um, a, uh, any kind of layered to Matt, like it's just going to look like a go my cause it was a quarter inch thick and I'm pretty sure it was like 11 layers or something like that.
00:09:19
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:09:25
tyrellknifeworks
And I probably ground off two layers off each side. So, uh, it's probably a closer to a go my right now.
00:09:29
echo_blades
Right.
00:09:35
echo_blades
That's cool, man. I think that was a good. Yeah. Good job, Kim.
00:09:39
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that was her idea. And so I'm i'm thrilled about that. and Oh, and it's actually um probably one of the nicest handle profiles that I've done. So I was really happy about that because I spend a lot of time on the handle.
00:09:56
tyrellknifeworks
um, it's got really crisp lines on the um On the coke bottle portion of the handle like that really crisp You know line that goes up that looks really nice.
00:10:09
tyrellknifeworks
I was really happy about that

Knife Mishaps and Repairs

00:10:11
echo_blades
Awesome. I'm actually sad to see the guppy go.
00:10:16
echo_blades
ah you that The original handle looked like a pregnant fish to me, like a pregnant fish belly, like a guppy. It was fantastic.
00:10:16
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I
00:10:23
tyrellknifeworks
It is awful. Um, there there was one. So you'll see in the video, but, um, though, of course, the first thing I have to do is, you know, because it was, it has a pommel, but it was epoxy dawn, right? Cause it was, cause it's screwed on and there's no pommel nut or anything like that. So the first thing I had to do was get the pommel off. So I use the induction forge so I could just heat the,
00:10:53
tyrellknifeworks
heat the pommel, bust the epoxy, and then i I did that so I could heat the tang inside of the handle, and I still couldn't get it off so that um I put it on the end while I just smacked the wood lightly a couple times with the hammer, like maybe four times, broke the tang.
00:11:13
echo_blades
Oh, Lord.
00:11:15
tyrellknifeworks
So, heat treat, not good.
00:11:15
echo_blades
Oh, Lord, Terry. Put it in reverse, Terry. Put it in reverse, Terry.
00:11:23
tyrellknifeworks
So I ended up having to weld the, uh, the Tang back on. Um, yeah, all kinds of bad.
00:11:29
echo_blades
ah You should have took it to me. I'm like got a professional at that ever since Rick broke my life. I just found that thing. I put it under a ah stack of papers or something. and I was like, oh my God, look at this thing.
00:11:41
tyrellknifeworks
yeah Oh, that's one thing I wanted to talk about. I'll come back to that, the the throwing knives. But um but yeah, the handle's really nice. a I finished the handle today and coded it with um Pelican Paste and then buffed that. It came out really nice. So get yourself some Pelican Paste. Go to PelicanPaste.com. Use the discount code TTTEN.
00:12:09
tyrellknifeworks
I use the hard wax because I wanted to buff it and and you know put a nice sheen on it. But he has hard wax, soft wax, Pelican oil, hand salve, soap, you name it. Go see Travis at Pelican paste and get yourself some.
00:12:24
echo_blades
That's right. That is right.
00:12:26
tyrellknifeworks
ah But um yeah, it came out really nice. So I was happy. I'm excited to give it to him, but I got to do a sheath first. So I'll be doing the sheath tomorrow.

Sheath Making and New Orders

00:12:39
echo_blades
Wait, hold that, hold that thought.
00:12:41
tyrellknifeworks
Wait.
00:12:43
echo_blades
Anyways, good.
00:12:43
tyrellknifeworks
I'm holding it.
00:12:44
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm going to tie that into something.
00:12:50
echo_blades
All right. Well, that's cool. Good for Dan. Dan just fricking scored right now.
00:12:55
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. I mean, I don't think he's ever going to use a Bowie knife, but, uh, you know, he's, he's got one now.
00:13:02
echo_blades
That's a story. That's a story at least.
00:13:03
tyrellknifeworks
Yes.
00:13:05
echo_blades
And I, and I think that's really cool.
00:13:05
tyrellknifeworks
Yes.
00:13:06
echo_blades
It was a lot of before pictures and now they'll have the after. I think that's awesome.
00:13:10
tyrellknifeworks
yeah And he'll be in a video.
00:13:11
echo_blades
He may be pissed. He may be pissed though, that you destroyed that, that relic of Terrell knife works.
00:13:16
tyrellknifeworks
He won't be pissed. Well, he he'll be pissed that he can't make fun of me and show me the knife. um But no, I don't think he's going to be pissed at all.
00:13:27
echo_blades
All right. Okay.
00:13:32
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, something else something else happened to me this week.
00:13:32
echo_blades
What else?
00:13:35
tyrellknifeworks
And umm I'm not going to say who it was, but I was, um you know, Once in a while you can impress your kids. ah And it's cool when your kids are like, wow, dad is is a somebody. Well, I was followed by a very prominent knife maker this week. um And I'm not going to say who it is because we actually might have some business dealings. So, um but um
00:14:05
tyrellknifeworks
i I sent my son a picture of Leon on the notifications and I kind of did a red circle around the person and sent it to him knowing knowing that he knows who this is because he collects knives.
00:14:18
tyrellknifeworks
um And and he he sent me back a text going, is that a fake account?
00:14:26
echo_blades
That's funny.
00:14:26
tyrellknifeworks
And I said, no, that's not a fake account. It has 105,000 followers. um And he was very impressed. So it's fun to be able to impress your kids.
00:14:39
echo_blades
I'm impressed too. That's a good follow. That's a good follow. Every now and again, you get one. That's, that's pretty good. So good for you.
00:14:48
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah.
00:14:49
echo_blades
Well deserved.
00:14:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. I was i'm surprised.
00:14:53
tyrellknifeworks
So what's new with you?
00:14:56
echo_blades
Shit. I'm living the dream.
00:15:00
tyrellknifeworks
I thought shit was what's new with you.
00:15:03
echo_blades
No. Well, I mean, the my dream is pretty much. No, I'm not going to do that. Everything's going all right, man. I'm feeling good. um Doing may got some time in the shop this ah weekend, which was awesome. Saturday, um the weather was just beautiful. So open up the garage and Got busy out there. What did I do? What did I do? I ground a bunch of knives.
00:15:34
echo_blades
um
00:15:36
tyrellknifeworks
Did you Jared a few?
00:15:36
echo_blades
And I did. I 100% did. at While I was actually at the grinder grinding the, I still haven't named the, it's the Chubacabra, the thicker.
00:15:41
tyrellknifeworks
um
00:15:50
echo_blades
the XL to recover or whatever, but, um, and it's not so XL cause it's thin. It's like very, very thin. I did this.
00:15:59
tyrellknifeworks
When you said the thicker one, I'm like, you know, all your knives are razors.
00:16:02
echo_blades
and I'm saying taller. Yes. I'm saying thicker. Yeah. I was thinking about the, uh, the, the height of the blade. Um, okay.
00:16:10
tyrellknifeworks
wider it's so thin it's it's a what's japanese for one it's a one my
00:16:14
echo_blades
Sure. The, uh, point is I made this go my billet and It was thin. And I just lost my train of thought.
00:16:25
echo_blades
the
00:16:31
echo_blades
Yeah. But the layers are still there, so it was just it was tight and it's almost centered. I almost did a great job on it, but no, the pattern came out cool and. um But I finished ground. I started grinding it a like week or so ago anyway, so I finished that up. um Now I'm on to using my sand shark to expedite the labors of hand sanding, which I I love.
00:17:03
echo_blades
um But then I was, took a little break and jumped on Instagram and got a notification that I was tagged in a video from Noah from Anyout River Forge, who did a really cool ah video and review on the ah the Norton, the Razor Star, the yellow belt.
00:17:19
tyrellknifeworks
Mm hmm.
00:17:21
echo_blades
And he jared it like 13 knives. And it just really kind of confirmed that the term Jared is is now a verb and
00:17:32
tyrellknifeworks
That makes me so happy that that's become a verb.
00:17:36
echo_blades
I love it. And my best, but the the best part about it is like, they go, some people were saying, Oh, I love it that that's a thing, you know, and he's like, he deserves it.
00:17:47
echo_blades
Okay, I guess, but ah it is a passion of mine. And I do not lose sight of that. So um after doing that, I went and Jared it up a couple of things just because, but that was funny, man.
00:18:02
echo_blades
I love that.
00:18:03
tyrellknifeworks
Hmm.
00:18:03
echo_blades
And good.
00:18:04
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. I got, I got to go to knife print and get a couple, uh, water Jared.
00:18:09
echo_blades
I see what you did there. I see what you did there. That's pretty cool. I got to do some water. Jared too. Cause that's pretty good. But, uh, yeah, so that was cool. Um, that was pretty much my day. Just being a knife maker, which felt great because I haven't been feeling like one for awhile. And then yesterday, um,
00:18:40
echo_blades
Well, I've been golfing a lot or pretty regular for the past month or so. And, um, last week I noticed that my, uh, my driver was dented, like it caved in. It was really, so look, I'm shitty, right? But I was not able to hit my driver at all. Like it just wasn't going anywhere and it was doing funny things. So I looked at it and I'm like, Oh shit, it's broke. So, um,
00:19:11
echo_blades
I went and got fitted for a new driver, right? Because if you're going to, how do you say this, when you're looking for golf clubs that you're, if you're not going to just go to the store and buy one, right? There's like endless options, different lofts, different, you know, faces to help a fade, to help a draw, to do this and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like mind blowing and confusing. And somebody with my brain, um, the, the, the choices become too much. So I went out there and.
00:19:41
echo_blades
tried a new, uh, this was a Callaway. And, uh, anyways, I took a couple swings and boom, back to 300 yards. So I'm feeling like there may be some validity to the fact, like a new driver's going to help.
00:19:53
echo_blades
Cause I know that's the joke, right? Oh, are you going to do dry? That's going to fix you. But, uh, I may.
00:19:58
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I did see the driver and it does have a big dent at one end that seems like it would affect the flight.
00:20:00
echo_blades
good
00:20:07
tyrellknifeworks
So I'm going to give you a pass on this one that you're not necessarily yet one of those guys that thinks equipment is going to make his game better.
00:20:07
echo_blades
Yeah. Thank you.
00:20:16
tyrellknifeworks
but
00:20:17
echo_blades
Yeah. This, in this instant, because I chased all that before. So I did that. That was pretty, that was fun. Those, the machines that you, uh, the, they're like these little boxes, they sit on the ground and you put the ball like kind of next to it and you start hitting them and the readings they give out.
00:20:37
echo_blades
It's just insane. Ball speed, you know, um, spin your swing speed, the distance, the carry the, like the whole thing. It's fucking pretty.
00:20:46
tyrellknifeworks
Just from hitting it?
00:20:47
echo_blades
just from hitting it. And it's not like it's, there's anything behind you. It just from your club coming into contact with it, it measures all this stuff and it's really freaking awesome.
00:20:59
tyrellknifeworks
Hmm.
00:21:00
echo_blades
That's how they can do those. Uh, if you have a projector, like if you're hitting it into the projector and you can, you know, see the ball doing its thing, you can do the automated visual virtual golf or whatever.
00:21:07
tyrellknifeworks
I see.
00:21:13
echo_blades
But, um, yeah, so I did that on Sunday and then. I couldn't remember if we had any plans or not. And it dawned on me that we didn't, but I stopped by and had some things, but you're in the midst of some stuff because it's, like you said, it's already summertime, you know, like, and you're like, I gotta do this.
00:21:33
echo_blades
I gotta do this. I was like, I can't. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go home.
00:21:35
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I want, I wanted to get that knife mostly done because I'm like, I'm like lining things up in my head of what I have to do. So I want to finish the dagger. Hopefully this week. And then I want to get a bunch of, um, not a knives done for the website. Like I've got five chef knives, a bunch of sand tigers, you know, I, I want to get all those.
00:22:04
tyrellknifeworks
done like a batch of both of those done in a week so that then now I can do my apocalyptic challenge build. And then I got commissions that I got to do. So, um, yeah.
00:22:15
echo_blades
Yeah. I mean, the time is, is flying, you know, when they so talk about like black Friday and the the holidays and stuff is all going to be here, man. It's, yeah I'm trying to actually learn my lesson from what happened to me with blade show where I felt like, you know, six weeks was like an endless amount of time, but, um, it really down.
00:22:32
echo_blades
It just dawned on me that, you know, we're going to be off to makers camp and, you know, like almost four weeks now, and we're at, we're about six weeks now, but
00:22:38
tyrellknifeworks
Right.
00:22:44
echo_blades
It's like before we know it, you know? Um, so I got home and I went back and, and started working again. So I finished up the, uh, that intrepid 2.0, um, sanded the handles and had some couple of things to work with, but man, I'm really happy with how that came up, uh, or out.
00:23:01
tyrellknifeworks
It looks good. thats That's the one with the green handle, right?
00:23:06
echo_blades
Yeah. What the green handle, the, the first belt finish, um,
00:23:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it looks good.
00:23:11
echo_blades
My buddy Brent and I, he, I did that under the the adult supervision of Brent at Baldman Knife and Tool. That was one of the things that, even though his shop did flood, we didn't get to spend that kind of time, but that was one of those things that I really was, wanted to do was to, you know, grind with somebody that does similar kind of knives um and just, you know, watch me, you know, hey, what do you see? um So we did that and he really convinced me that
00:23:44
echo_blades
that the belt finished because I'd never done one and I and probably would have never planned on doing it. But I think it came out great. I'm super happy with it.
00:23:51
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:23:52
echo_blades
And um and I like the the trimmed down version of the the intrepid. It's a little smaller, um ah just a little smaller blade, but the handle came down like the whole thing came down from like eight inches overall to like maybe it was like eight and a half to like seven or something complete.
00:24:11
echo_blades
And But I'm happy with it. And I think I want to probably do a ah little run of those. um That's why I was talking about the ah the knife print today and asking about how how quick that can do.
00:24:21
tyrellknifeworks
ah Yeah. yeah.
00:24:24
echo_blades
So maybe a doing that in hopes to get some some product, you know some inventory completed. um Wow.
00:24:33
tyrellknifeworks
Does this mean you're going to be bugging me to do the design and knife print for you?
00:24:37
echo_blades
Maybe.
00:24:43
echo_blades
You froze. Dude, that's hilarious. Your face froze in this very like, mmm, look like, that was awesome.
00:24:47
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:24:51
tyrellknifeworks
Well, maybe it didn't freeze. Maybe that's the face I was making.
00:24:54
echo_blades
No, it was, you were talking, dude, but the that never, though the effect was there. Um, yeah. So I want, I want to do that. And then, uh, that's why I was telling you to hold on that thing.
00:25:06
echo_blades
Cause I do want to do a sheath again too. Um, I have, an idea. Well, I've had a typical Jared stuff, you know, I've had an idea for months and months and months and months and months. And um now I'm starting to see him actually come out. So I better get busy doing it. But I want to do a little leather sheep for the for the fixed plate. But so yeah, um that's what I was gonna say. Hold on. When are you doing that? You want to do it tomorrow? Oh, sounds good.
00:25:37
tyrellknifeworks
i If you're gonna take tomorrow morning off, I'm doing it tomorrow morning.
00:25:40
echo_blades
No, you're gonna fucking reverse all that. Geez, come on, man. God.
00:25:44
tyrellknifeworks
ah It'll be tomorrow afternoon.
00:25:49
echo_blades
Yeah, tomorrow afternoon. Be there or be square. Anyways, we'll talk later. um So, that's kind of what's on my my agenda. And then, on top of that, even though I left the billet at your house, um I got an order for the kumai billet.
00:26:06
tyrellknifeworks
Nice.
00:26:07
echo_blades
I'm all, I'm fired up. So I'm going to do a chef and a, and a paring knife combo. Um, so now I'm stressed with how much stuff I have do, but, um, yeah, that's, that's that. And then, and I was just thinking about it. Like it's a good thing. I made it but when the order came in, um, because.
00:26:33
echo_blades
I wouldn't have had it, but I would always have a fail safe because I can always go check out my boys over at Baker, Forge and tool. And they have ah some of the best um Damascus out for us right there.
00:26:47
echo_blades
Kumais and all kinds of schnazzy stuff for your knife making needs um this week. Right now, I think their drop was the elite Aurora.
00:26:58
echo_blades
My I know we're always a little.
00:26:59
tyrellknifeworks
I like that one.
00:27:01
echo_blades
Yeah, that one's really nice. It's simple, but yeah, yeah, it's, it's like not overwhelming, but it's, it's bad-ass dude.
00:27:04
tyrellknifeworks
That's the one with the Damascus band kind of in the middle. I love that one.
00:27:13
echo_blades
I really love that pattern. Um, so that, that dropped probably two days when you guys hear this, but, uh, if there's any left, you should go check it out.

Fascination with Folders and New Projects

00:27:23
echo_blades
Um, and.
00:27:24
echo_blades
Before this, knowing they're going to do drops on the weekend, you can always take advantage of the of ordering through the app where you get um early access to the drops before they hit the website.
00:27:36
echo_blades
And you know, you got to finish that Damascus, so you might as well use some ah the best premade etching around the Gator piss. um You can also get that at Maritime Knife Supply.
00:27:49
echo_blades
And koi and the boys have a new like a segment coming out where you can to ask me anything thing with koi. So you get to right now if you jump in on the post, I think you just came out a couple hours ago today on Monday. um You get your questions in to whatever it is that you want to koi to answer for you. So Hurry up, go get busy and do that.
00:28:15
echo_blades
And when you're all done and you've loaded up the cart with it all kinds of fantastic steel and Gator piss, make sure you use the discount code Triple T 10 for 10 percent off your entire purchase.
00:28:27
tyrellknifeworks
Get some I'll be using that Gator piss tomorrow morning when I etch Dan's knife
00:28:28
echo_blades
Get some.
00:28:34
echo_blades
Yeah. I have some plans for that. Not for dance stuff, but, you know. um Cool.
00:28:43
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. So actually I gotta, I have to put in, I'm, I'm waiting for my order from maritime because I have some stock steel. Cause I want to make that new chef knife.
00:28:57
tyrellknifeworks
I got to make one before I actually order blanks of that knife, just to make sure it is what, what I want.
00:29:01
echo_blades
Right.
00:29:03
tyrellknifeworks
Um, and then, um, I'm going to make, um, some folders. Uh, before I, um, get a bunch of those, um, water jetted, I want to do one more full, uh, a folder, which I'm probably going to do for the, uh, triple T folder series. So, um, which is going to start not next week, but I think, uh, probably in two weeks.
00:29:35
tyrellknifeworks
because next week's, not this week, but next week's triple T, actually, since we're talking about maritime, I'm not gonna tell you what it is, because I don't wanna ruin it for the video, but i I had no idea that I was literally bouncing around in maritime knife supply, and I saw something that I thought was the coolest thing ever in the cart it went,
00:30:02
tyrellknifeworks
It's coming to me next week. Jared doesn't even know what it is. I'm gonna do a video on this thing because I think it's gonna be crucial um for you guys that wanna do folders. I think everyone's gonna want one of these and you'll see my video. We'll talk about it next week after I get it.
00:30:27
echo_blades
bullshit.
00:30:30
echo_blades
Not cool, dude.
00:30:30
tyrellknifeworks
ah
00:30:31
echo_blades
Not cool. I'll say it for us and the other six people. Not cool, dude. Keeping us in suspense like that.
00:30:37
tyrellknifeworks
i'm and No, because because if I say it now, everyone's gonna rush over to Maritime Knife Supply, they're gonna be sold out. And then when I do the video, no one will be able to buy them then. So I'm actually gonna message ah Lawrence and say, you better have a bunch of these in stock, because I'm sure you're gonna sell out of them. Now Jared's thinking, you can see the wheels turning.
00:31:02
echo_blades
I'm filtering too. Hi, mom.
00:31:09
echo_blades
If I never did it before, I just did it right there. I i didn't say what I was thinking. It wasn't nice. So that's pretty cool.
00:31:17
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, yeah.
00:31:17
echo_blades
No, that's, that's awesome. And I, he's got everything. So why the hell not? What else does he have? Shit.
00:31:24
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, he's got everything. He's got steel. He's got abrasives. He's got the handle material. He's got tooling. He's got equipment. He's got stuff that I, so I swear, if you tool around in all of those different menus, you'll find stuff you didn't know he carried every time.
00:31:42
echo_blades
Every time, every time the engine.
00:31:46
tyrellknifeworks
And I always, this happens to me every single time I order something from maritime. I put a bunch of stuff on my cart that I know I need, I hit buy whatever, put my information in, and then um I immediately see something I wish I would have ordered.
00:32:03
tyrellknifeworks
And then I'm like, Oh, I don't want to pay shipping again.
00:32:03
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:32:05
tyrellknifeworks
And I know I could just call up Lawrence and say, Hey, could you add it to this order? But that's pain in the ass. And so every single time, except for this one, cause I made a point to go through the entire, pretty much the entire website, like every one of those little menus, just looking around for what I needed.
00:32:21
tyrellknifeworks
So, uh, go get your stuff at maritime knife supply to get everything.
00:32:25
echo_blades
and tell them the boys at Triple T sent you.
00:32:27
tyrellknifeworks
Absolutely.
00:32:28
echo_blades
Just because.
00:32:29
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:32:29
echo_blades
Just because. So you can get all your tools, tips, and talk right there.
00:32:31
tyrellknifeworks
But.
00:32:33
echo_blades
Right there at Maritime Night Supply.
00:32:36
tyrellknifeworks
But Mike Vangnino warned me. He goes, once you do folders, you're going to get hooked. I'm totally hooked. I'm hook line and sinker hooked. So i'm I know I got to do these two knives, but then I'm going to be chomping at the bit to do more folders even though I have a bunch of um ah fixed blades to do for the website. um I'm going to want to be doing folders.
00:33:03
tyrellknifeworks
So we'll see. I might actually do that folder series. I might actually do a batch of folders, even though what I show will only be one. I might actually do a batch when I do it.
00:33:14
echo_blades
I was really going to get in the way of all your plans that you have. I'm just saying.
00:33:18
tyrellknifeworks
No, because it's going to stretch out over like four or five weeks. So it's only a little bit each each week. So it's nothing.
00:33:29
echo_blades
Don't you counteract my disses, dude. That was a perfectly logical explanation and I don't like it.
00:33:37
tyrellknifeworks
But I finished the SandTiger X, which is the folder the first so the first um of my folder design.
00:33:37
echo_blades
All right. tu
00:33:51
tyrellknifeworks
Jared's pointing at himself, but that's not who's getting this one.
00:33:55
tyrellknifeworks
um
00:33:56
echo_blades
the love I'm feeling is zero right now I've never said I wanted anything from you never not once you bastard okay let me pick the handle skills
00:34:06
tyrellknifeworks
ah We'll see. We'll see. I'll make you one, I promise, but not this one.
00:34:14
tyrellknifeworks
Okay. um But I'm really, really happy with it. As for the first design, um it the action's on. It's really nice. Yeah, I think it looks really good. I'm just waiting. I'm replacing the the washers with some Teflon washers, so I'm just waiting for those before I put it on the website and release it.
00:34:35
echo_blades
Yeah, dude, it is, it is fantastic. Like in all seriousness, no jokes. I love that thing. It's so cool.
00:34:43
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:34:44
echo_blades
I'm so happy that you're doing them. I think you're going to, they're only going to get better, but like it is really, really nice. It looks great. Um, the actions really good. And I think you could get through a couple and you're going to work out all the little minor.
00:35:00
echo_blades
kinky things, get them in some hands of some people that are folder people, you know, some get some real feedback, you know. But they're, they're awesome. Do they look great? They feel great. So good for you, man.
00:35:12
tyrellknifeworks
Thank you. You know, I need to put a clip on it too. That's the other thing. I'm waiting for the clips.
00:35:16
echo_blades
Deep pocket, deep pocket.
00:35:20
echo_blades
Deep pocket clip.
00:35:23
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it's...
00:35:23
echo_blades
You can't make folders. You don't know what a deep pocket clip is. Get the
00:35:25
tyrellknifeworks
I know what a deep bucket clip is. It's getting a similar clip to the one I have on my...
00:35:30
echo_blades
That's not deep pocket.
00:35:30
tyrellknifeworks
I don't know.
00:35:33
echo_blades
um so I'll explain it to you.
00:35:35
tyrellknifeworks
Okay, you explain it to me.
00:35:36
echo_blades
It's a real thing. It's a real thing.
00:35:39
tyrellknifeworks
Well, they're already ordered, so I know what clip it's getting. but
00:35:41
echo_blades
Okay. Ask me next time. Deep pocket. No, it's a preference thing.
00:35:51
echo_blades
Yeah. That's, that's really cool. I was really happy to see that thing.
00:35:55
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. And then, of course, I've got a bunch of Damascus um little cutoffs that I'm ready to make folders out of. um Because now, of course, I keep every little piece that's big enough for folders. So.
00:36:11
echo_blades
That's, that's really good use of it all too. I mean, how many pieces that you have that are four inches or you know what I mean? That just kind of straight off. So that's exciting.
00:36:21
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:23
echo_blades
Cool.
00:36:25
tyrellknifeworks
So um yeah, I'm going to I'm rhyming off here things here, but um I do want to talk about the apocalyptic challenge ah only to mention that I haven't started yet. um I have all my material.
00:36:43
tyrellknifeworks
is what I have now. I'm hoping to start second week of September, and that'll give me three weeks, which is plenty if I can't do this build in a week.
00:36:56
tyrellknifeworks
um I think I got something wrong, but... um No.
00:37:00
echo_blades
i i don't I don't even think you've told anybody, I almost just spilled it. Have you told anybody what you're making? Oh, I almost fucked it up.
00:37:12
echo_blades
I didn't, so we're good, but I almost just fucked it up.
00:37:14
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Shut your pie hole.
00:37:18
echo_blades
I will.
00:37:19
tyrellknifeworks
Um, no, so yeah. So I've got a late start and I'm, I'm already feeling anxious about this, but I feel like I got to get these other things done first.
00:37:28
echo_blades
It's a folder guys. Don't let this pass.
00:37:30
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
00:37:31
echo_blades
He's making a fricking reclaimed folder.
00:37:34
tyrellknifeworks
It's an apocalyptic folder, right?
00:37:35
echo_blades
Lame. Yeah.
00:37:38
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:37:39
echo_blades
That's cool.
00:37:41
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:37:41
echo_blades
But yeah, speaking of time. So we got next week is, is it labor day?
00:37:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. I think. Yeah.
00:37:49
echo_blades
It is.
00:37:49
tyrellknifeworks
Next week's Libri.
00:37:49
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:37:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:37:51
echo_blades
This week, this weekend.
00:37:52
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. This, this coming weekend.
00:37:54
echo_blades
Holy shit.
00:37:57
echo_blades
Wow. And then we have September. I'm leaving the week before makers camp to go to Disneyland with one of my daughters, which I'm super excited about.
00:38:12
echo_blades
Um, I haven't been, I spent a lot of time in that damn place, raising the kids.
00:38:14
tyrellknifeworks
Nice.
00:38:21
echo_blades
They, they, they did a lot of Disney stuff, but, uh, it's been a long time since I've been there and, uh, I'm really looking forward to just hanging out and taking a drive. We used to call it Operation Daddy Daughter Dates. um I did with with the girls all the time or I found myself in less than masculine stores shopping for less than masculine things. But, you know, being a ah girl dad um and, you know, they're all growed it up now. So I'm excited that she wants to to hang out. So but that's going to be the week before Makers Camp. So it should get done there. Then we're going to get back. Then we're going to Makers Camp. And then on top of that,
00:38:58
echo_blades
I'm probably going to cruise up to Reno sometime in September and go finally get that one-on-one with our buddy Rick.
00:39:08
tyrellknifeworks
No, really? Well, we can go.
00:39:10
echo_blades
Yeah, I haven't decided yet, but I'll tell you when I get back. yeah
00:39:18
echo_blades
Good old tag along, tower hill always good to try to ruin a good time.
00:39:19
tyrellknifeworks
I knew it. I knew you were going to say that.
00:39:22
echo_blades
Real real clever there, buddy. Um, yeah, so the shit it's, yeah, time is, is dwindling quick here, but I'm hoping to, uh, grip it and rip it with my two bastards fat peen hammer. And if you are in the market for one of the best hammers out there, make sure you go check out Frank and Nita at two bastards hammer and go get yourself a straight peen of fuck and cross peen, diagonal peen, all the pains in the world.
00:39:56
echo_blades
You know, hit, it hit me with it. Hit me with it. Hit me with it.
00:40:02
tyrellknifeworks
You're making me laugh and I don't remember what saying.
00:40:04
echo_blades
Come on. Hit me with it, buddy.
00:40:07
echo_blades
Ain't it grand to have a fat peen in your hands.
00:40:10
tyrellknifeworks
I was thinking, what rhymes with hands? What do you always say?
00:40:16
echo_blades
Oh, the fat peen is on the scene and we're going to get busy buddy. So yeah, go check out Frank and Anita two bastards hammer and go get yourself a fat peen. Um, so we'll probably mess around with the power hammer too, but I definitely need to, uh, get that.
00:40:33
echo_blades
I'm excited for the winter too. Cause I'm hoping to get that hammer hammer, uh, working. Cause I apparently am eligible to test for journeymen this year.
00:40:41
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:40:47
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, really? You can do it.
00:40:48
echo_blades
No.
00:40:49
tyrellknifeworks
Why not?
00:40:50
echo_blades
Well, I shouldn't say no, but it's not looking good right now.
00:40:55
tyrellknifeworks
Since you've never made a hidden Tang, that might be one reason maybe to.
00:40:59
echo_blades
That's one, but that's a little one. I'm not worried about that. People make keyholes on that shit. I'll, I'll do it. Um, yeah, but that's what I'm into.

Shop Safety and Injury Stories

00:41:11
tyrellknifeworks
All right, when when we doing your first hidden Tang?
00:41:15
echo_blades
I actually, after maker's camp, I have three knives ready for hidden Tang chefs.
00:41:26
tyrellknifeworks
But what kind of knives? Oh, no, come on. I'm talking about a knife with a guard.
00:41:32
echo_blades
Hey, don't discredit me. You're going to start somewhere, right? I'm not into, I'm not into it.
00:41:35
tyrellknifeworks
That's just...
00:41:37
echo_blades
I don't, I don't like them. Like that's not my deal.
00:41:42
tyrellknifeworks
But you.
00:41:42
echo_blades
I think Rick is actually going to, we're, we're, he was talking about making a, like a traditional Bowie. So maybe I'd do it with him, but.
00:41:47
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:41:50
tyrellknifeworks
Think of your intrepid, but with a guard.
00:41:53
echo_blades
Okay. Now I'm interested. Tell me more Dennis.
00:41:57
echo_blades
Chuvacabra.
00:41:58
tyrellknifeworks
OK, Chupacabra with a guard that.
00:41:59
echo_blades
That one would be good. That won't be good with a card. Yeah. All right. Okay. Look at you. Ultimate salesman. Talk me right into it. All right.
00:42:08
tyrellknifeworks
Come on, get on it.
00:42:11
echo_blades
Yeah. I'm just stressed out and I'm a bitch. So I get scared real easy. So, but yeah, that's, that's all happening. So, um, and then a kind of switching gears here, I had a couple of questions come in on the triple T, um, Instagram.
00:42:32
echo_blades
account. And I wanted to bring a couple of them up on the show. So if you don't mind, you want to transition into that?
00:42:40
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, let's do it.
00:42:42
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, let's do it.
00:42:42
echo_blades
Okay.
00:42:43
echo_blades
So first question was somebody, I can't think and and look this up, but I'll get the names here in a second. Um,
00:42:55
echo_blades
had a picture and he had like a napkin kind of on his face with I could see like some bloody blood stuff. Right. And he he was asking, you know, like, what's the what's the worst thing you've done in the shop?
00:43:08
tyrellknifeworks
Hmm.
00:43:08
echo_blades
Like injury wise, because apparently this guy had my one of my biggest fears talking about being scared and a bitch is that damn buffer. And apparently the buffer kicked a knife and it got hit him up here in the and the face.
00:43:25
tyrellknifeworks
Was he buffing on the top of the buffer?
00:43:28
echo_blades
I don't know what he was doing. Doesn't matter if it was on accident purpose or fucking dumbass status. Uh, it happened. That's scary as shit. Cause right. It can happen really quick, right? But, um, he's all right. Everything was cool. He said, uh, just his, you know, pride and an ego, which anytime I've ever done anything stupid, um, you know, like, Oh, I shouldn't have done that. But I was thinking to myself, I was like, man, I have been Pretty lucky here. I haven't, uh, I'm lucky you're safe, right? One of the two. Um, so I was curious, what's, what's the biggest, like, uh, oh, that you've had.
00:44:06
tyrellknifeworks
um you know i've you i've had countless you know belt bumps abrasions stuff like that um i have once i've gone to the hospital um because i had a piece of metal in my eye and this is the most random thing because i was wearing glasses and um
00:44:19
echo_blades
Oh shit. Ouch.
00:44:34
tyrellknifeworks
and It was the next day. So apparently I must have had a piece of metal. Probably I'm thinking it was probably in my eyebrow or something like that. And in the shower the next day, I was washing my face and a piece of metal went into my eye in the shower.
00:44:54
tyrellknifeworks
So it must have drained into my eye from like my eyebrow or something like that. And that's how it got there. So it wasn't even, it was obviously from
00:45:02
echo_blades
Not like a Oh, shit, yeah.
00:45:04
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it wasn't an accident in the shop. And then I kind of like thought it was just grit and I was trying to, you know, I was living with it and then had to come home from work because it was like pissing me off ah in the afternoon. And I had to go, this is right before the wedding because I was going to a tux fitting.
00:45:25
tyrellknifeworks
And I couldn't stand it anymore. I was like, I have to get out of this tux fitting. I ended it as soon as I could then went home. Kim took me to the emergency and yeah, I had a piece of metal stuck in my eye, but, um, other than that, I don't think I've had any, like, I can't think of any, you know, I, yeah, I've had things flown from the, the, Oh,
00:45:55
tyrellknifeworks
I know I had a piece of, it was a scare. I had, I was using the um circular, the table saw, and I had a scale that I was cutting with the circular saw that kicked and I felt it on my beard fly by my face.
00:46:05
echo_blades
Hmm.
00:46:20
tyrellknifeworks
Like it launched.
00:46:20
echo_blades
That just happened not too long ago, right?
00:46:23
tyrellknifeworks
Um, yeah, that wasn't too long ago. This is like probably nine months ago.
00:46:27
echo_blades
I think you talked about it on the show. Yeah.
00:46:28
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. Yeah. And I still have not found this piece of wood. It's somewhere in the shop, probably like embedded in the ceiling or someone like, oh, like, I don't know where it is.
00:46:40
tyrellknifeworks
But, uh, so I've had a couple of scares, but never, um, never been hurt.
00:46:47
echo_blades
Yeah, thankfully.
00:46:48
tyrellknifeworks
And just, it I don't know how this happened, but just a safety notice, if you're using a buffer, that's why you're supposed to buff on the bottom or the front of the buffer.
00:47:01
tyrellknifeworks
Cause if it does catch, it's going to drive whatever you're buffing down. Never buff on the top of the wheel. Cause if that catches, it's going at your chest or your face.
00:47:14
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:14
tyrellknifeworks
So public service announcement for buffers.
00:47:17
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:47:19
echo_blades
Yeah, I've had I haven't had any steel get ripped out of my hand, but I have had I have flung more kydex sheaths ah with the buffer than and thankfully because and that shit is shot all over the place.
00:47:35
echo_blades
Like I've scares the shit out of you. But I mean, you still.
00:47:38
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I ah shout out to the hustle and grind podcasts for having Jane Nielsen on.
00:47:41
echo_blades
Good.
00:47:45
tyrellknifeworks
So I don't buff Kydex sheets anymore because I use the tip that Jay provided in that episode. Did you listen to that episode?
00:47:56
echo_blades
I did. I'm coming up completely blank. And I remember thinking it was, uh, extra awesome.
00:47:58
tyrellknifeworks
Oh,
00:48:02
tyrellknifeworks
instead, instead of buffing it,
00:48:03
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:48:06
tyrellknifeworks
just take a little bit of acetone and just zip down.
00:48:09
echo_blades
That's right.
00:48:11
tyrellknifeworks
It totally works. Totally works, because it just melts the plastic just a little bit, makes it nice and shiny smooth.
00:48:14
echo_blades
Hallelujah. That's right.
00:48:21
tyrellknifeworks
I think I was, I think I sanded it to like a 220, maybe it was a 400 finish and then just, and it was like glass. So anyway, sorry to interrupt you there, but I wanted to give them some credit.
00:48:33
echo_blades
Cool. No worries. That's important. Yeah, that's important. Shout out right there. Those boys are awesome. They've been having a really, really cool shows and guests there, and that's some super value right there.
00:48:50
echo_blades
um The dumbest thing that I did that I can think about is besides I had a belt snap on me, um, 36, you know, but, and I had never experienced it before.
00:48:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:49:05
echo_blades
So I was grinding and like it started acting funny. And then I pulled back for a second and I, I used to have like one of those face shields. Um, and then that got lame.
00:49:17
echo_blades
So I, I stopped wearing that. And, uh, that was in the process where I didn't, didn't have that on, but I saw the belt kind of like shimmying and acting weird. And I don't know, for whatever reason, because I'm a dumbass, I like, I leaned in like, see, yeah, I don't know the fuck that thing snapped and fucking cracked me right on my head.
00:49:31
tyrellknifeworks
Can you look at it?
00:49:38
echo_blades
Oh, my God. I've obviously I've punched the belt quite a few times, but the I guess the worst and the dumbest thing I did was I had just started My progression through grinders was was really fast.
00:49:55
echo_blades
I had a one by 30 for like a month or month and a half. I did a couple of knives on that. And then I jumped right over to the two by 48. I think it is um just to just to get the two inch belt.
00:50:06
tyrellknifeworks
Mm hmm.
00:50:10
echo_blades
But that machine just hauls ass has one speed, just fucking balls to the walls. And um but it has a six inch disc on the side of it.
00:50:23
tyrellknifeworks
Right?
00:50:23
echo_blades
You know what I'm talking about?
00:50:24
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:24
echo_blades
So I dropped something on the ground and I was looking for something and my fat ass fucking put my hand up on the fucking on the bench to get up and my thumb just right into the end of the disc.
00:50:42
tyrellknifeworks
What grit did you have on the disc?
00:50:42
echo_blades
And I.
00:50:45
echo_blades
Whatever came on, it it's probably like an 80.
00:50:46
tyrellknifeworks
Oh.
00:50:47
echo_blades
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't it wasn't fun.
00:50:47
tyrellknifeworks
Oh.
00:50:50
echo_blades
It it took a giant Yeah, that I was that, that was the one time I come running in. lo It was bad.
00:51:02
tyrellknifeworks
And you yeah early on, you never want to admit to your wife that, you know, you hurt yourself. Like you want to, you want to downplay it because you don't want to get her concerned about, you know, this, this new hobby.
00:51:13
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:51:15
echo_blades
Yeah, but it was all like immediately all that skin was white, like, because it wasn't a cut, right? It was, it's the burn, you know what I mean?
00:51:21
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:51:23
echo_blades
Like I just looked and all I saw was white and I was like, Oh no. i'm And I'm not, I'm not Mr. Macho and shit. When I get hurt, my, my wife always makes fun of me and calling me a wussy cause I'm definitely not, not, not tough when it comes to that.
00:51:39
echo_blades
So I come running in, holding my hand up, bleeding all over the place.
00:51:40
tyrellknifeworks
but
00:51:44
echo_blades
Not like our typical, because I cut myself all the time, you know, with the the stainless pouches of every fricking time I do something, I cut myself with those.
00:51:52
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, well, that's why I got to use the Condersal.
00:51:55
echo_blades
I am gonna do that.
00:51:56
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, you, you know what? I did, I did injure myself the other day. Um, when was it Thursday? Um, those sand tigers, the the ones with the hollow grinds.
00:52:10
tyrellknifeworks
or sorry, the silver tips. I had one, no, no, sorry. It was one of the other, um, uh, sand tigers I have on the shelf here. I'm ready to be shipped. I had to ship one out. So I picked it up and I thought it was securely in the sheath, but it turns out it wasn't. It was just loosely in the sheath. So I picked it up. It fell out of the sheath, fell to the ground blade first. And the tip of the knife just happened to land like right on the edge of my, like the top of my foot. So that fucking sharp. So there is probably a three quarter inch gash now in my foot. That's really deep.
00:52:55
echo_blades
Oh, geez.
00:52:55
tyrellknifeworks
Well, like, cause it just, it didn't land tip first, but it landed like blade and just the tip like hit the top of my foot.
00:53:00
echo_blades
Oh, shit.
00:53:06
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, I had to, I could have got a stitch. Like if I went into the hospital, they would have stitched it, but, um, I ended up just crazy gluing it together.
00:53:10
echo_blades
Oh, wow.
00:53:15
tyrellknifeworks
Um, so, uh, yeah, star bond for the win. Um, yeah.
00:53:20
echo_blades
There you go.
00:53:22
tyrellknifeworks
But, um, yeah.
00:53:26
tyrellknifeworks
So have I been heard in the shop?
00:53:27
echo_blades
Well, shit. Yeah. that
00:53:28
tyrellknifeworks
All my stuff, it has my, the stuff that I've been hurt. The worst is shop shop adjacent. It wasn't in the shop.
00:53:35
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:53:38
echo_blades
Damn. Yeah. But I think for most, most of the time, like you you hear stories, like every now and again, you get like those freak accidents. And and those are the ones that those, yeah, those suck to hear about.
00:53:49
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:53:51
echo_blades
though They're, you know, they're scary and everything. But most of the time, thankfully, it's just, um minor stuff where you're just being an idiot, you know, and you do something that's, you know, you're not wearing what you should be or, you know, something happens that you could have avoided.
00:54:07
tyrellknifeworks
The, there are certain tools that um require, like require, I like to say optimal concentration.
00:54:19
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, and one of those is the table saw.
00:54:20
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:22
tyrellknifeworks
Um, that one gets, I've mentioned this many times, that one gets all my respect. Um, like I'm very conscious, like that one scares me more than just about any of the, oh, and o in the router.
00:54:29
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:54:38
echo_blades
The routers.
00:54:38
tyrellknifeworks
The router gets ultimate concentration when I'm using that router.
00:54:41
echo_blades
Good God. Yeah, for sure.
00:54:45
tyrellknifeworks
Because either one of those will remove your fingers in a blink of an eye.
00:54:50
echo_blades
Yeah. For sure.
00:54:53
tyrellknifeworks
But the buffer I'm not as scared of now, because honestly, my buffer is a cheap buffer and I can stop it with my hand easily.
00:55:00
echo_blades
That was one of those, the funniest thing ever. I was, I had a death grip on that knife and I was there for like forever. And you're like, what are you doing? I'm scared. He's like, bro. And he grabs the freaking buffer while it's, you know, full tilt, but it's, you know, apparently it's, it's not that strong and he stopped it. So I was like, okay.
00:55:22
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it's a crappy Porter cable. I think it's like a quarter horsepower, you know, buffer.
00:55:30
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:55:30
tyrellknifeworks
And I like it that way. Yes, it's slower, but, uh, it's, it'll still grab it, but not, not like, like one of those big bettors or something.
00:55:33
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah.
00:55:42
echo_blades
Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah, well that was that. And then, uh, another question that came in was in this one, I have never heard of this scenario. I've never done it.
00:55:56
echo_blades
Um, I was hoping that you may have had some experience with it.

Exploring Knife Making Techniques

00:56:00
echo_blades
Um, but I did kinda look up what it actually is, but a listener reached out and asked us if we have ever used, um, some kind of a compound for aluminum oxide belts.
00:56:18
echo_blades
Um,
00:56:18
tyrellknifeworks
So yeah, I read, I read the notes on this and it depends what he's talking about because there's two things here. Like the one that you listed, this belt grease, um, is different than what I was thinking because you can actually get aluminum oxide grit compound, but I'm pretty sure that's meant to put on a felt belt. It's almost like you're running a buffer, ah like on your two by 72. I have a felt belt that you can put compound on. This stuff that you've this abrasive belt grease, um this sounds like it's meant to put on your high course grit belts. And I've never used this stuff. um I'm reading your description that you pasted here.
00:57:10
tyrellknifeworks
And um yeah, I mean, it it says aluminum mixed into the formula to provide a lustrous cut um on ferrous metals used with coarse grit, 24 to 120 zirconia and ceramic belts to increase the life and cutting power of your belts.
00:57:21
echo_blades
On Ferris medals.
00:57:30
tyrellknifeworks
So to me, this is, it sounds like the, um the VSM had Um, had those belts that had like a compound on it.
00:57:46
tyrellknifeworks
Like you can't even tell the grit looking at it because every one of the belts looks smooth. I'm not talking about the game changers that look like cork belts. Um, these are, I think they call them pixie dust or something like that.
00:57:58
tyrellknifeworks
So it looks like it's covered in compound, um, along with, you can't see the grit.
00:58:01
echo_blades
You can't see the grid, right?
00:58:04
tyrellknifeworks
Um, i don't i don't even I don't like those belts because they're super loud when you put them on your your grinder. um yeah but i don't know maybe I've never tried this. maybe Maybe it's a great thing, but it seems like it's definitely going to clog up your belt, but I think it's meant to do that. If this is what he's talking about, this belt grease stick.
00:58:27
tyrellknifeworks
um
00:58:28
echo_blades
Yeah, that this is just what I can do because the the comment was, ah we use aluminum oxide belt or aluminum oxide belt grinding compound.
00:58:41
echo_blades
So maybe I read it that he was using it on aluminum oxide belts, but maybe that's just what the compound is made of. But the way you described it was it's advertised as helping ah reduce heat and cut better.
00:58:54
echo_blades
um And his experience was it wasn't helping him that much.
00:58:58
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, so it does sound like he's talking about these belt grease sticks.
00:59:01
echo_blades
Yeah.
00:59:02
tyrellknifeworks
um
00:59:05
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, i I've never used it. I've never tried it. It sounds a little dubious to me. There are actually abrasives that have this kind of stuff on them, ah but they're not low grit. Those ones from VSM were, they were like higher grit, like 220, 320, 400 grit kind of thing. So.
00:59:26
echo_blades
Yeah. Yeah. That was from Ian Christiansen. Um, and I think I answered him incorrectly now that I'm, I'm looking back at it because I was under the impression he was talking about luminoxide belts, but I, uh, I see the errors of the ways, but no, I have not tried it.
00:59:45
echo_blades
Um, and I don't think I will based on your experience there.
00:59:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
00:59:51
echo_blades
And the fact that I haven't had much, uh,
00:59:55
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it. It does say apply sparingly to the belt surface while in motion. It depends, I guess, how much you put on there. Like, I don't think you're supposed to cake it on.
01:00:06
tyrellknifeworks
um
01:00:06
echo_blades
and That could be too, yeah.
01:00:10
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. i'
01:00:12
echo_blades
Looks like it's just like a giant grease stick, like like a belt eraser that you just bump up against the belt while it's moving and and go.
01:00:20
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I did have, um, when I, before I used maritime, um, I did have Jantz send me like this big stick of, um, compound.
01:00:31
tyrellknifeworks
It's probably what it was. I never ended up using it. Uh, I didn't really know what to do with it and they didn't give me any instructions.
01:00:37
echo_blades
and I don't think it was it was super hard and like heavy and it wasn't like I can't think of what I'm trying to say but gotcha.
01:00:40
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:00:46
tyrellknifeworks
it It wasn't buffing compound it because it said aluminum oxide. I think it was 120 grit aluminum oxide compound. I'm pretty sure it was this, the one of these belt grease sticks.
01:00:57
echo_blades
Okay.
01:00:58
tyrellknifeworks
Um, but yeah, I'm, I don't know. This is one of those things I'm kind of set in my ways and I know.
01:01:06
echo_blades
You not not trying new things. That's weird. You didn't think of it. It's not cool.
01:01:13
tyrellknifeworks
ah sometimes Sometimes I can be stubborn and someone has to ah shut your mouth.
01:01:17
echo_blades
Sometimes. Oh, my bad. I forget there's other people here. Yeah. And then the other one was, do you do a cryo treatment on on high carbon steel? Somebody was making a knife out of a file.
01:01:35
echo_blades
Um, and just through his endless, you know, our endless death scrolls of trying to find information and advice on the interwebs that came down, that there was some buddy recommending that.
01:01:47
tyrellknifeworks
There's a couple carbon steels that benefit from cryo, like
01:01:53
echo_blades
Yeah, I've done it on ADC RV too. Uh, but that's based on an article that I read from Dr. Laron Thomas. And I followed that. And I think, you know, like the benefit is.
01:02:06
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, I hadn't, I hadn't heard at CRV two is one of those. Um, I think I'm going from memory here.
01:02:09
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:02:13
tyrellknifeworks
I think 52, 100 is one of them, um, that would benefit.
01:02:16
echo_blades
Okay.
01:02:18
tyrellknifeworks
I think it's 52, 100. Um, but there's not many that where it makes an appreciable difference for the, uh, for carbon steels.

Community Events and Maker Camp

01:02:29
echo_blades
Yeah, that's what I, that was my response to him was that that's what I've done. I've done it on any survey too. Um, but that was only because it's not in, um, what is the book?
01:02:42
echo_blades
Knife, knife, knife engineering.
01:02:43
tyrellknifeworks
knife engineering after
01:02:45
echo_blades
I was going to say knife talk. Um, I was like, that's not it. But, uh, yeah, it's not in that book. It was a, like, um, before that book came out, he used to release these articles.
01:02:59
echo_blades
um On specific kind of subjects and that was one of them So that's kind of where I got the a little more in-depth view on the heat treatment for for ADCR V2 So if you're doing that go check it out.
01:03:10
echo_blades
It was it was pretty good But yeah, so I'm with you I know for stainless
01:03:16
tyrellknifeworks
I did actually something kind of related to this. I did kind of rat hole on something last week where someone had said, you know, um, some, I forget how I got on this. Like there was a, um, a Facebook article about a Facebook post about rebar or something like this. And someone said, do a super quench on it.
01:03:45
tyrellknifeworks
and which it is a thing.
01:03:45
echo_blades
Super quench.
01:03:48
tyrellknifeworks
it's It's basically it's like a brine kind of quench. There's a specific formula for this thing. And it normally I say this is all hogwash, but there there is there is some documented study which actually came out of Lawrence Livermore lab.
01:03:55
echo_blades
um
01:04:08
tyrellknifeworks
I'm sorry, not Lawrence, but more Sandia here in Livermore. um that There was a, uh, an engineer at, uh, Sandia that was doing some quenching of mild steel to make it slightly harder. So for you guys that, Oh, think it's the best thing, it gets slightly harder. Um, and it's, you're basically like almost case hardening it a little bit. So, uh, don't, don't run out and get excited and buy yourself a bunch of rebar and look up super quench. I generally think it's a waste of time, but, um,
01:04:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, anyway, I was rattling on that, like, is this even a thing? And it turns out it is a thing um that you can do and make mild steel a little bit harder. So anyway, that brought that to mind, that cryo on that.
01:05:03
echo_blades
Cool.
01:05:07
tyrellknifeworks
But um we earlier, you had mentioned um the throwing knife, and I was, I'm sure we can't do it this year, but I thought, I had a fun time doing that throwing knife challenge.
01:05:19
tyrellknifeworks
That would be fun to organize at maker camp where, uh, maybe next year, like get Lawrence involved. Maybe he can, you know, sponsor the event, have some steel.
01:05:34
tyrellknifeworks
Cause like how many people are going to enter like 10, like where, you know, you have to make the knife there.
01:05:38
echo_blades
Grant.
01:05:42
tyrellknifeworks
at the blacksmithing tent, you you can go to the Broadbeck tent to grind it like it would be cool. And then we have an actual little throwing competition. And um that'd be kind of fun to do at Maker Camp.
01:05:56
echo_blades
That would be.
01:05:56
tyrellknifeworks
So maybe I'll throw that together.
01:05:59
echo_blades
They've done this, not not official, but there's been some kind of I think they were making those.
01:06:05
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, the rasp knives.
01:06:06
echo_blades
I can't. Yeah, the RASP knives.
01:06:08
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:06:08
echo_blades
A couple of people are just kind of going after it, doing that. Yeah, it would be cool.
01:06:13
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, that'd be fun.
01:06:14
echo_blades
Kind of occupy some time, keep you busy, keep you doing something, but.
01:06:17
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it gets you around to the different tents to do stuff and yeah.
01:06:20
echo_blades
Yeah, yeah, I like that. That might not be a bad idea there, Tagalong.
01:06:26
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, and
01:06:27
echo_blades
Every now and again, you come up with a good thing. I will say that I thought for sure that scavenger hunt was going to be a bust, but that turned out to be really cool, too, so.
01:06:35
tyrellknifeworks
see once in a while I have good ideas.
01:06:38
echo_blades
Did you do? You do.
01:06:42
tyrellknifeworks
Uh, yeah, I'll be sure to do that one next year, but I think, uh, yeah, maybe even this year, maker camp, we'll see if a bunch of people come up to me and say, let's say, say, Hey, let's do it. Uh, maybe we will.
01:06:55
tyrellknifeworks
So Lawrence brings her steel.
01:06:57
echo_blades
He always does anyways. but I'm excited, man.
01:06:58
tyrellknifeworks
I know.
01:07:03
echo_blades
I'm getting excited. I'm trying to keep that in check though, because You know, there's going to be, I think there's going to be a lot more people. Um, and the first year we went, we handful of people.
01:07:11
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:07:14
echo_blades
We knew like just a handful. And the next year was a little more. Uh, but this year now it's like, I think it's going to be more of our community is going to be there.
01:07:23
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:07:25
echo_blades
I think that was one of the, not that it's being ruined or or anything, but it's like, I think that was one of the, cooler experiences about Makers Camp versus, you know, like Blade Show or something else is that there was so many other types of Makers there.
01:07:38
echo_blades
um You know, kind of got you out of your element to go talk to people, meet people, see what other people are doing. um It's a just a fantastic time for making of all types.
01:07:48
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. there's
01:07:51
tyrellknifeworks
There's so much to experience there. So, uh, yeah.
01:07:53
echo_blades
Yeah. And then in the conversations like as much shit is there to do, you always still find yourself standing around talking and, you know, just getting to know and meet people.
01:08:04
echo_blades
So it's pretty cool. I'm getting excited, Dennis. I'm getting excited.
01:08:09
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. What are you, what are you going to make for a maker swap?
01:08:12
echo_blades
I probably going to do intrepid 2.0.
01:08:16
tyrellknifeworks
Nice.
01:08:17
echo_blades
That's probably what I'm going to do.
01:08:20
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I'll maybe i'll actually forge one like and leave the forge finish. So you can tell it's...
01:08:28
echo_blades
You don't do that.
01:08:29
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, I've done it once.
01:08:31
echo_blades
You don't do that. That's not your thing. That's like me and Bowie's like stay in your lane there. Tag along. All right.
01:08:39
echo_blades
Yeah, that's probably what I'll do. Um, I have, yeah, I have, I had so, I have so much to like expound on that, but I'm not going to cause it's not appropriate.
01:08:41
tyrellknifeworks
All right, well, maybe we'll have...
01:08:51
echo_blades
So.
01:08:51
tyrellknifeworks
Maybe we should have a forge day. You can forge ah a, what'd you say, an intrepid? You can forge an intrepid and I'll forge something and then we can use those knives.
01:09:05
echo_blades
Maybe.
01:09:07
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I haven't forged anything in a while.
01:09:08
echo_blades
I do. I mean, we need, yeah, we do need more Forge things.
01:09:12
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:09:13
echo_blades
Maybe I won't fire you as a teacher now that you have some experience.
01:09:18
echo_blades
Such a dick move.
01:09:18
tyrellknifeworks
What?
01:09:22
echo_blades
That was so unwarranted, I am sorry.
01:09:27
echo_blades
I don't really rarely feel bad when I say things. i was Uncalled out of line. Mr. Sandoval out of line.
01:09:34
tyrellknifeworks
Well, two of my students, not including you, are coming to Maker Camp as well because I keep telling people about it.
01:09:34
echo_blades
oh
01:09:42
tyrellknifeworks
I'm like, man, we've got to stop talking about Maker Camp. We're blowing it up.
01:09:47
echo_blades
Yeah, I know, but that's it's meant to be blown up for sure.
01:09:50
tyrellknifeworks
Yes, it is.
01:09:51
echo_blades
It's meant it's meant to be experienced by many.
01:09:51
tyrellknifeworks
It is. Yeah.
01:09:55
echo_blades
So. um What do you got for maker spotlight?
01:10:00
tyrellknifeworks
Oh, oh, so I had I'm a little story behind this one. So, you know, I do those um viewer knives every once in a while on the channel where I'll get people sending in pictures of your knives and I'll do a viewer knives episode. So um this is one that I called out I don't even remember which one, but it was a while ago.
01:10:22
tyrellknifeworks
and um And then um this guy, or Orlando, reached out to me um and sent me an email um recently.
01:10:36
tyrellknifeworks
and sent me a bunch of pictures of his knives and, you know, asked me for his feedback and, you know, which I'm usually happy to do. Um, so I gave him just some, you know, it was pretty long email and I gave him a bunch of feedback and he was actually asking me about, um, going full time and asked me a bunch of questions like that. And I actually, you know, he's 19.
01:11:02
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, you know, he's thinking, you know, making this a career. And I, I was actually, not that I was trying to talk him out of it. I was trying to caution him on, you know, this is a tough, tough thing to do to make a living at, and turns out like, you know, he's still living with his parents. He's got, you know, he's got some other, you know, it doesn't have many bills, wants to try this and he's really gung ho. So.
01:11:30
tyrellknifeworks
Who I have is um Orlando, it's all one word, Orlando Grey, G-R-A-Y, Muir, M-U-I-R. And he's in, I think Scotland? um Yeah, definitely, ah yeah, over there in the UK somewhere. But um I actually got on an Instagram call with um with him for, geez, over an hour, probably an hour and a half.
01:11:56
tyrellknifeworks
just, he had a million questions. I was happy to to answer them. Um, talked about profiles, talked about, you know, getting started, how I got started, progression tooling, you name it. He had a ton of questions. I was happy to, um, to answer them. So, um, yeah, he's only got 295 followers, um, but has been doing some really nice, um, Damascus and beautiful, um, blades.
01:12:25
tyrellknifeworks
And he's trying to make a go of this full time and he's really, really passionate. um you know he was He was very excited to be talking to me like to the point where um you know He was asking so many questions, he wasn't waiting for the answer of the last question before he asked his new question.
01:12:44
echo_blades
Right, right.
01:12:44
tyrellknifeworks
So he's very excited. um So go give him a follow and yeah, great to great to see some young makers out there.
01:12:57
echo_blades
Yeah, I just followed him. Yeah, nice Damascus. Really cool stuff here. I think he reached out to the right guy. um Yeah, I'm just always amazed that
01:13:14
echo_blades
people, I guess I'm jealous, you know, that younger people get into this, you know, and then all the opportunities and time they have, you know, to learn and progress. I think it's really cool. It's something I wish I would have, I would have done, but oh my God. Yeah. I'm just looking at from the very beginning down at the bottom of the page, all the way up to the last one, just what a, what a,
01:13:43
echo_blades
Transformation and progression. Good work, dude.
01:13:46
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah. He's, he's, he's done some great knives, some, uh, and we talked about like profiles and, you know, a couple of ah things that he can improve on and stuff like that.
01:13:49
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:13:58
tyrellknifeworks
But, um, you know, just overall, like we were all over the place on questions. So, um, it's good. He wants to learn, he wants to get better. And, you know, we talked about business and, and stuff like that too.
01:14:10
tyrellknifeworks
So yeah. So everyone go, go give him some love. Go, uh, go follow who you got this week.
01:14:15
echo_blades
Yeah, absolutely. It was a good one. So I was going around looking through, um, you know, for the maker spotlight and know whatever reason the algorithm had our buddy ah Gabe Fletcher at Anchorage Forge like just below blowing up my my feet. like That's all like three or four posts. It was just like his his moment on my feet here. So I thought it ah was a sign and um got the opportunity to meet Gabe last year at a blade show. um And I know he he has
01:14:59
echo_blades
that Anchorage Brewing he does those collabs with, you know, Moreco and Josh and a handful of other people. um But there's a fantastic, fantastic maker. I'm just going through the feed here and looking at all the Damascus and um and the chef knives that he has. um And I just wanted to give him a shout out, show him some love.
01:15:24
echo_blades
And that is Anchorage Forge on IG. He currently has two thousand five hundred and eighty four followers. And looks like he's working on a good Josh Prince esque plug weld knife right now.
01:15:41
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I was just looking at that.
01:15:42
echo_blades
at That does look in an exquisite. I'm watching a video right now. Sorry, guys. So now it's not good podcasting, but. That is an amazing pattern there.
01:15:53
echo_blades
You got to check that thing out. Um, but yeah, good.
01:15:56
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, it's the second one in his post looks good.
01:15:59
echo_blades
Yep. It's pretty cool. Um, he's got a big ass shop too. Big ass machines. I love that.
01:16:07
tyrellknifeworks
The. I first learned about, um, Gabe from Spencer, um, at heavy forge. Cause, um, uh, Spencer knows him because he's been over to that shop a bunch of times.
01:16:15
echo_blades
Okay.
01:16:20
tyrellknifeworks
And, uh, he, it was funny because when when Spencer said, Oh yeah, like he knows this guy from Anchorage brewing and he just got into blades. This is a couple of years ago. Um, just got into bladesmithing and like bought, you know,
01:16:36
tyrellknifeworks
like a 200 pound um power hammer, like a 300 pound anvil, like all of this tooling. um you know, before he was really like had made many knives.
01:16:52
tyrellknifeworks
um But certainly he's putting that stuff to good work now. And I know Spencer has been over there using some of the equipment as well. So so I'd love to, I want to go up and visit Spencer again, and maybe check out Anchorage Forge and play with some of that tooling.
01:17:08
echo_blades
game spot. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely a good follow.

Lighter Moments and Podcast Wrap-Up

01:17:15
echo_blades
So go, go show him some, some love there. All right.
01:17:22
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, I got it. I got a joke for you.
01:17:24
echo_blades
Oh no. Please don't do that. and That's already been done. dennis I don't have a trombone bro. Sorry.
01:17:35
echo_blades
Hit me with it.
01:17:35
tyrellknifeworks
What do you, what do you hear regularly in church? Not that I'm a church account person, but what do you hear regularly in church that you never want to hear in prison?
01:17:46
echo_blades
I don't know Dennis tell me.
01:17:52
tyrellknifeworks
um jesus i just forgot the um delivery what do you hear regularly in church that you never want to hear in prison jesus love you i could i could see uh i could see you processing but you get it now
01:17:54
echo_blades
Oh my God. Oh my God. I don't know Dennis what is it? Oh my.
01:18:18
echo_blades
Yes. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that as just an absolute banger right there.
01:18:22
tyrellknifeworks
ah
01:18:25
tyrellknifeworks
I saw that one on Instagram. I thought it was funny.
01:18:28
echo_blades
Yeah. Okay. Cool. You got anything else, dude? Cause I think we're at one hour and 18 minutes in.
01:18:41
tyrellknifeworks
Um, no, I mean, um, what else do I have? Um, no, I have some more update on the dagger. Hopefully next week I plan to be,
01:18:52
tyrellknifeworks
A little more into that build, so we'll talk about that more next week and maybe an update on Sand Shark next week. um Yeah, so yeah i I use mine on Dan's knife today.
01:19:00
echo_blades
Ooh.
01:19:03
echo_blades
Ooh. I mean, I'm using the shit out of mine right now.
01:19:12
tyrellknifeworks
um Doing all the heavy sanding on that thing this morning.
01:19:13
echo_blades
Yeah.
01:19:16
tyrellknifeworks
so
01:19:18
echo_blades
I will say. That thing makes. Absolute short work. of that first grit progression.
01:19:31
tyrellknifeworks
yeah
01:19:32
echo_blades
The value for me, my experience in it is the very first 220 grit. That's where I start, wherever you guys do. But that 220 off the grinder, um I wish I was better.
01:19:46
echo_blades
It would probably go faster. But man, that that can If you're doing that by hand, all the times that I did do it by hand, that shit can get in your head that this is the the lamest thing in the world.
01:19:57
echo_blades
And why am I doing this? And I'd rather be doing anything else, but it, it really, really, really speeds that process up. The rest of them is, you know, it definitely increases, but that first one is just that that's where the value is.
01:20:06
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:20:10
echo_blades
That's where it's worth every single penny.
01:20:13
tyrellknifeworks
I agree. Cause the, the, the, the 400, 800,000, like those three grits, if that's mine, I, I go to 2,400, 800,000.
01:20:14
echo_blades
Nope.
01:20:22
tyrellknifeworks
Um, and sometimes I don't do, I don't do a thousand if I'm on like a mono steel or something, but, um, but yeah, you're right.
01:20:23
echo_blades
same I don't know why but.
01:20:31
tyrellknifeworks
It's really the 220 that is the painful one. The other ones are. You know, you can get through the other ones in not much time.
01:20:39
echo_blades
Yeah, it helps. It's definitely going quicker, but yeah, you lay down that first coat. I don't want to say coat. That's not the right word, but that that first grit down and and it's it's a breeze from there so.
01:20:52
echo_blades
Kudos.
01:20:52
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah.
01:20:53
echo_blades
Love that thing.
01:20:55
tyrellknifeworks
Yep. Still working on, um, this little attachment to hold the stick hold the sanding stick so stay tuned on that we might see an update on on that and we'll see in a couple of weeks
01:21:06
echo_blades
Ah, it's exciting.
01:21:11
echo_blades
That's exciting. Exciting. The only other thing i did I have on here that I was going to talk about
01:21:16
tyrellknifeworks
um
01:21:20
echo_blades
was, uh, the, the other, we got a comment from a couple of weeks back when I was talking about how, when I was reaching out to, um, makers and I was feeling like I was asking people out, like, good you know, oh yeah I'm a new maker. I like long walks on the beach. and I think you're amazing. Would you be my friend?
01:21:46
echo_blades
A couple of people hit me backwards today, man. I completely relate with that. And I just, if you're new, I encourage, reach out. to The community is just ultra, ultra supportive. um And it's only going to benefit you um by asking the questions and getting to know people. And, you know, a couple of years later you start thinking around, I started thinking to myself after I read that, I was like, man, so I reached out to this person, this person, this person. And now they're all my friends. Like, they're my friends now. Like, it's not like that weird, you know, the dating, dating phase is over. But, you know, you'd start to develop relationships with people. And, you know, um so I highly encourage it, man.
01:22:31
tyrellknifeworks
Yeah, I do too. and And the other thing, after taking my first official course um with with Mike on the on the folders,
01:22:44
tyrellknifeworks
Um, I'm definitely going to be taking some more courses because I learned so much so fast in those two days that just kind of rocketed me forward in that topic.
01:22:57
tyrellknifeworks
And I couldn't imagine what that's going to do for other topics, taking courses. So, uh, I'm a big proponent of, of that as well. So make friends, take courses.
01:23:06
echo_blades
Yeah. Instruction. Yes. Instruction, instructions. Tools don't make you better. Practice does.
01:23:13
tyrellknifeworks
That's right, Jared driver.
01:23:15
echo_blades
Thank you, driver. Hey, hey, you can't turn that around like that. That's, that's mean. ah Yeah.
01:23:24
tyrellknifeworks
Well, I, I, I, I owed you one.
01:23:24
echo_blades
Next time you do take a course, make sure it's in a, in a, in a bigger shop though.
01:23:28
tyrellknifeworks
Hey, Mike just said he didn't want you there.
01:23:28
echo_blades
Asshole. All right.
01:23:30
tyrellknifeworks
It's not my fault.
01:23:31
echo_blades
I understand that most people are, not ki sorry, Mike, you're a gem. I love you.
01:23:40
tyrellknifeworks
All right. You got anything else to be done? I'm done with you.
01:23:43
echo_blades
I think I'm definitely done with you. I'll see you tomorrow afternoon.
01:23:47
tyrellknifeworks
All right. all right
01:23:50
echo_blades
All right, later.
01:24:06
echo_blades
And that's a wrap.