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CLL 34 - Bad Batch Mid-Season Chat
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You know what they say about the road to Hell…the promise of more content has eluded the CLL crew since early January. But Jonathan and Chris are back to discuss their thoughts on the first half of Season 3 of Star Wars: The Bad Batch. In this Biizarro World episode of the podcast, the segments are out of their typical order, but we still cover them!
0:00 Introduction
1:00 HDYGTW
7:09 Steel City Con Spring 2024
11:29 Bad Batch Mid-Season Chat
47:39 Patty Jenkins is Back!
51:14 Phantom Menace 25th/Pirates SW Night
52:44 Wrap-Up & Outro
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Captain Picard's Log Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Captain's logs. On the prologue. I'm Captain in the Millennium Falcon. This is Captain John Luke Picard of the Federation starship Enterprise. I already have one message from Starfleet coming in on secured channel.
Podcast Introduction: Captain's Logs and Lightsabers
00:00:28
Speaker
You're listening to Captain's Logs and Light Series, part of the Geek News Now podcast network.
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey, welcome to episode 34 of Captain's Logs and Lightsabers. And yes, this is the real episode 34, not last episode because, you know, I can't count apparently, but this is the real episode 34.
Host Introductions: Jonathan and Chris
00:00:49
Speaker
And this is the podcast on Geek News Now that discusses both Star Trek and Star Wars. And my name is Jonathan. I am one of the hosts of the show. I wouldn't be able to do it, though, without my co-host, Chris. How's it going, man? I'm doing great. How are you doing?
00:01:05
Speaker
I am wonderful. Well, we haven't had an episode since early January.
Podcast Break and Scheduling Conflicts
00:01:11
Speaker
We always have good intentions and then, unfortunately, life gets away. Exactly. Basically, we've been bouncing back and forth for the last couple of weeks and our schedules just couldn't line up. Yeah, pretty much. If something comes up for me, Chris is able to record it. If I'm able to record, something comes up for Chris. Exactly.
00:01:33
Speaker
Anyway, but we're back. We're here. We got our second episode of 2024.
Star Wars: The Bad Batch Season 3 Discussion
00:01:39
Speaker
And we're going to talk about the first half of the Bad Batch season three, which consists of seven episodes as of today, which we're recording on March 17. And this episode will be out later in the week. So yeah, we've had the first seven episodes of the season, and it's right about the halfway point. So that's what we'll discuss today. But first, how did you geek this week?
00:02:01
Speaker
Chris, what's going on?
Chris's Office Move and Sci-Fi Decor
00:02:03
Speaker
Well, I basically have been what have you been geeking for the past month, essentially. So part of the reason why we haven't been able to coordinate our schedules, everybody is because I took my private practice that I opened a few years ago for mental health.
00:02:17
Speaker
And i move to my own office i'm no longer running with anybody i'm completely so low now. And with the move that's been going on for the last five weeks, not only just getting the building filling out all the paperwork but it's also been buying a ton of new stuff.
00:02:33
Speaker
So a lot of the stuff that I've been trying to do is get as much geek stuff as possible. So obviously as a big Star Trek fan, my office is very much Trek themed. So I brought all the old Star Trek decorations I had from the old office and set those up. But I also brought in a whole bunch of new stuff as well, including the Enterprise D model that was made by Playmates in 2023. It's really cool because that actually has saucer separation, which is really neat.
00:02:59
Speaker
And I'm guessing that the original one didn't, right? The one from the 90s did not. That's right.
00:03:05
Speaker
Yeah, so this was a new feature to this one, so it makes it really cool. So I got that put in there. I just put up a painting that my wife's uncle painted for me with the enterprise leaving Earth.
Star Wars Items for Kids Area
00:03:17
Speaker
So I put that up in my office today when my wife and I were stopped over. And I see I bought a ton of Star Wars stuff for the kids section. Star, there was a Mandalorian book that I bought that's all illustrated and it's got magnets of the characters you can put in different scenes.
00:03:31
Speaker
I got a stuffed animal of Boba Fett that I put in there and I got almost every version of Grogu stuffed toys that you could possibly imagine. My wife actually said to me, no more Grogus, please, no more. I'm like, please, there's one more. Find a different one and she was like, no more.
00:03:50
Speaker
You know, so I brought a lot of that in, see, found some old Star Trek VHS tapes from the eighties and nineties. And I put those up as decorations on my bookshelf, one of my bookshelves and see what else did I buy? Oh man.
00:04:05
Speaker
That's pretty much about it in terms of the buying, but I bought all that Star Trek and Star Wars stuff, which was really cool. Also, this kind of goes away from my office, but went to Walmart yesterday while I was shopping for the office, and I found in their $7.50 bin, the first season of Star Trek Lower Decks season is on DVD in the bins.
Star Trek Lower Decks DVD Find
00:04:26
Speaker
Oh, wow. Yeah. So, and I picked one up and there were a couple left. So, check your Walmarts if you want Star Trek Lower Decks season one on DVD, because they're in those bins now.
00:04:35
Speaker
Nice. That's really cool that you can grab it for such a value. I mean, DVD is still such a popular format, even though we have 4K and 8K. Who knows when that's coming? But I'm sure it's sooner rather than later. But yeah, DVD is still super popular. So yeah, that's awesome. And it's such a great show. Yeah, 750 is a great entry point for somebody
00:04:58
Speaker
to check it out because it's less than the cost of a month of Paramount Plus. Absolutely, absolutely. So it's really cool. That's pretty much how I've been geeking for the last month. How about you?
Final Fantasy VII Remake Trilogy Discussion
00:05:08
Speaker
Well, let's see. In the last month, I have really been playing a lot of a very specific video game franchise. I have been playing the series of games in the Final Fantasy VII remake trilogy.
00:05:28
Speaker
Back in 2020, I got the game, the Final Fantasy VII Remake, which, like it sounds, is a remake of the original Final Fantasy VII game that came out for the PlayStation 1 back in 1997, I believe. And it was for a lot of people who had never played Final Fantasy before, it was the one that got people into the series, including myself.
00:05:52
Speaker
And fans, you know, have just been, it's been one of the best stories of any Final Fantasy game, the most well-received, most well-loved, and still talked about to this day. You don't really hear people talking about the stories in other Final Fantasy games anywhere near to the level that people do about Final Fantasy VII. Oh, wow. So they were teasing, you know, a remake, basically, I think it was back in the PlayStation 3 era. They had originally teased like,
00:06:21
Speaker
like almost like a graphical showcase of what the power of the PlayStation 3 could do as far as graphic rendering. And then it never was actually meant to be a real game, but people latched onto it and wanted them to make it, wanted it to be made. And it eventually came out for the PlayStation 4 in 2020, which
00:06:45
Speaker
When they released the first game, when they released Final Fantasy VII Remake, everybody was shocked. It was only about the first third of the original game. This whole game was actually one part of many.
00:06:59
Speaker
Mm hmm. And so I had never finished it back in 2020. So I finally went back and finished the game, did all the side quests because I can't help myself. I have to complete everything. It's a sickness. I can't just I can't just move through the story of a game. I have to do all the side quests as soon as they pop up. So I finally finished Final Fantasy seven remake. I did the downloadable content
00:07:26
Speaker
which was like a side mission that you could do, which was another like four or five hours of gameplay, which I stretched into more because of side quests, because again, I can't resist. I finally started playing the second game of the trilogy today, which second game of the trilogy is Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. And it, you know, it benefits from, you know,
00:07:51
Speaker
upgrades and technology. It's on the PlayStation 5 now instead of PlayStation 4. So it is a game that is on two Blu-ray discs. This thing is massive. And I just started today. And it kind of starts with a very memorable sequence from the original game. And I'm really excited to get further into it. So that's how I've been eating. It's playing Final Fantasy VII Remake. Yes.
00:08:19
Speaker
All right.
Steel City Con: Guests and Excitement
00:08:21
Speaker
And then I guess what's going to be coming up for us in the next month is Steel City Con. Yeah. Yeah. And I I'm not sure if we'll be able to go this time, unfortunately. I know you'll probably still go, you know, as a fan, but I just know if we'll be able to go to represent the show. Yeah, it I'm just I don't know this of all of all the recent Steel City Cons. This one appeals to me the least, honestly.
00:08:50
Speaker
What do you think of the guests that we're not? I know for you, there is a very specific celebrity guest that you are probably going to at least try to talk to. I don't know if you're going to plan to do a meet and greet or anything like that, but tell us about your very special guest that's coming to Steel City Con that you're excited for.
00:09:15
Speaker
Oh, definitely. So I've been a big fan of the movie Short Circuit since I was a little kid. And I've always had a big crush on Ali Sheedy because of it, her playing Stephanie Speck in the movie. And I used to just I used to tell people she was my girlfriend. You know, you're.
00:09:30
Speaker
a little kid, you know, you just think stuff like that. So she was my first celebrity crush. And so I've been begging Steel City Con for over, I'd say about two years on their Facebook page to get her to come down while they're doing a breakfast club reunion at this show. And obviously she's going to be there. So I got to make sure that I get a photo op at least.
00:09:49
Speaker
I'll probably be too chicken to have a conversation with her, but I'm not. I'm one of those people that like I panic because they're like the celebrity and I kind of shut down. So like, you know, I'd love to have a conversation with her, but I think I'd freeze up. Yeah.
00:10:07
Speaker
Yeah, and the nice thing about a photo op is you don't get a whole lot of time to actually carry on a conversation where if you're getting an autograph, it generally takes longer and you have a little bit more time to talk, especially if you're getting multiple things autographed, you have even more time.
00:10:25
Speaker
Yeah, I guess the photo op is the one for the introvert in assault, right? Yes, very much so. Definitely, but I can't wait. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing her. I'm a little nervous about the show this time, though. I mean, we almost lost Steel City Con because they were going to turn the Monroeville Convention Center into a hobby lobby.
00:10:44
Speaker
But that got pushed away finally, and they're going to keep it open. But the hotel across the street, they closed unexpectedly. And now the overflow that used to go over there is going to come back into the convention center. So we're going to be back to Saturdays where we're bottlenecked in the building. Yeah, I am not. I'm not looking forward to that at all. And unfortunately, they did say that they are going to have the August and December cons there as well. Yes, though.
00:11:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'll have to rely on what you tell me about this one in April to know whether it's worth me going in August. Oh yeah, I'll let you know because I mean, you remember how bad it got a year ago where they almost had to shut it down with the fire marshals because you're literally bottleneck shoulder to shoulder, we couldn't move. Yeah, that was last December, it was the December before, right? Yeah.
00:11:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. So when they finally put moves part of it to the convention or to the hotel was like, Finally, we got some room here. You know, we'll see.
Steel City Con Issues & Star Wars Plot
00:11:45
Speaker
We'll see. But before to see an alley sheedy and hopefully the show will be good. Yeah, hopefully. I mean, you know, they may end up having more like outdoor tents and stuff. You never know, you know, as far as.
00:11:55
Speaker
you know, like to line control and stuff, or they may even put celebrities out in tents. Who knows? Exactly. I know that when I met Christopher Lloyd two years ago, they did that. They had us out in tents. It was cold out too. We all survived. Well, hopefully April will be a little nicer. Hopefully. Yes. All right. Well, so what do you say we talk a little bad batch, Chris? Absolutely. Looking forward to it. Then get technical with me.
00:12:26
Speaker
The Jedi uses that force for knowledge and defense. Okay, so we are going to talk about the first seven episodes of the Bad Batch season three. So these are episodes that were available through March 13th of this year. So that's episodes one through seven. It's been an interesting way that they've kind of made the episodes available because we got a three episode premiere
00:12:52
Speaker
the first day, then we got three, or what was it? Two weeks? Yeah, two weeks of single episodes. And then we got another episode or another duo of episodes drop just this past Wednesday, 13th. So that's an interesting way that they've distributed the episodes and kind of decided what goes, what comes out when. But
00:13:17
Speaker
Let's kind of break it up, I guess, by the way that they made them available week to week. So we'll talk about the first three episodes because they do kind of all, you know, connect together, of course. So the first episode was confined. So following her capture by Dr. Hemlock, Omega adjusts to life at the Imperial Reach search facility by visiting her prisoner brother Crosshair and getting checkups from her mysterious and stoic
00:13:45
Speaker
clone sister Dr. Emery Carr. Omega passes time by creating herself a Tuka doll befriending an imprisoned Lyrica hound that she names Batcher. Yeah, we can talk about Batcher in a little while, but Batcher is my hero. So, Omega is a little free to go around the facility, but she is trying to escape and hopefully take crosshair with her.
00:14:15
Speaker
episode one confined. What what what were some of your favorite parts of the episode, Chris? I really liked that you they showed kind of the time jump from when she first got there was like, and then she was it like, five weeks later, or five was a five months, maybe I don't they were choose counting them off on that with the lines. Yeah, I liked how we had that little jump, we got to see her kind of age a tiny little bit. This was not so it was nice to see that time jump.
00:14:40
Speaker
It was also interesting watching them, was it Nala say taking all the different, or no, no, no, it was Dr. Carr taking all the blood samples, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then watching Nala say starting to destroy them and even, and Omega was watching it, but she didn't say anything. At least not until later on down, down the, down the road, you know, so it was interesting to kind of see wake start asking, what are they looking for? What are they trying to do here?
00:15:05
Speaker
And I also really enjoyed having Batra be part of the group as well. I love how it showed the heart and the compassion of Omega's character. She tried helping this wounded hound that really was mean and nasty to her and how Batra actually remembered that and actually came to love her and protect her.
00:15:24
Speaker
You know, yeah, you know, an Omega set her free, which was which was really, really awesome. See, I also love the fact that we're seeing a little bit of her. She's trying to reach out to crosshair, but at the same time, as she's starting to get a little bit older and adjusted to being there, she's kind of ignoring him a little bit, just kind of walking by him. You know,
00:15:44
Speaker
So just it was, it was, it was a really, I thought it was a pretty good way to start the season out. What did you think of the episode? Yeah, I thought it was, you know, this was definitely of the three. I think this was my least favorite just because it was a lot of more moving, you know, it was a lot more of a, you know, moving pieces into place, kind of letting us get an idea of how Omega's day to day life goes. So, you know, as we kind of see her go through her routine and make changes to that, as she's trying to, you know, put together a plan to escape it.
00:16:14
Speaker
You know, and it's great that Nala say has her back. And, you know, every time that Omega's blood gets taken, you know, Nala say, make sure to destroy it, discard it. So to, you know, to kind of buy her more time to escape. And yes, of course, Batcher is my favorite new character of the show. She is such a good girl. She's the best. I love, you know, just like my dog, you know,
00:16:44
Speaker
There were treats for the hound, and then Omega had her own food, and of course the dog wants nothing to do with the treats. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, you've got the people food, that's what I want, and that's what you're going to give me. Absolutely.
00:17:05
Speaker
So, you know, Batchers, just like most dogs, you know, in our universe. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. And I guarantee you that there's going to be hell to pay at Disney if they are in Lucasfilm, if they kill that mud off. Oh, I don't think they ever will. I don't think they will either. I don't think this is not Bambi's mom. Well, let's hope that would be horrible. Yeah, definitely. I don't think we're going to have that ever happen again.
00:17:35
Speaker
I mean, can you imagine, I mean, the kids would be upset enough, but can you imagine the adults uprising about that? Right, right. I think I'll boycott Disney Plus for the rest of my life. I keep saying it in the last few episodes was you better not kill Batcher. You better not kill Batcher. I was like zoned on that the whole season so far.
00:17:54
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. I don't think they have any plans to kill Batcher. Riot's in the streets, man. Riot's in the streets. So that was kind of our introduction to where Omega and Crosshair have been.
00:18:23
Speaker
Think it was a little over four months if we're going by standard earth month, you know our months of around 30-day average So it's about four months. I have a Star Wars question for you. Okay, go for it. What is a click? Okay, so that's I want to say it's It's an older term. It's not like
00:18:48
Speaker
Let me see. I can edit this out because I have no idea. I'm going live here. OK, so bear with me. I where is. Give me a second here. I'm trying to figure out where everything is. There we go. OK, so that was probably about 19 minutes before. Right, I would think. OK, so 19 minutes. All right, so I'm going to keep googling and we're going to figure this out.
00:19:18
Speaker
Yeah, because I keep hearing it in the show and I'm keep is that minutes? Is it days? What like rotate like rotations? I assume is a day. That would make sense. Okay, I found the answer and I don't know why and now I'm kicking myself for not knowing what it is. Click is just a word. You know, it's just a shorthand for a kilometer. Oh, okay. Okay. So five clicks is five kilometers. Okay.
00:19:42
Speaker
So yeah, so there you go. So that is the definition of a click. Oh, there we go. Perfect. All right. So yeah. So why don't we move on to episode two? We've kind of discussed where Omega and, you know, crosshair are. So let's, let's check in on the rest of the bad batch that, you know, we have still are around. So episode two is called Paths Unknown.
Mission to Jungle Planet: Young Clones Encounter
00:20:06
Speaker
So working as mercenaries, Hunter and Wrecker complete a dangerous job in exchange for what may be the location of Dr. Hemlock's lab. They follow the coordinates to a jungle planet where they find an abandoned Imperial base, a set of young clones surviving together in the wilderness, and a very, very large creature towards the end. So what did you think of episode two, Paths Unknown, Chris?
00:20:32
Speaker
I thought it was okay. It started out, I really enjoyed the beginning where they were in that with the crime family. And I loved, it was almost like an electronic version of the Sarlacc pit. Not the Sarlacc pit, but in Jabba's palace where, yeah, what's the Sarlacc pit?
00:20:50
Speaker
going under the raincorp pit is what I meant to say. It was just it was more it was a technological version and she just was able to dispatch whatever, you know, enemies that she had, which I thought that was really cool. But I love that we're seeing the bad batch trying to gather intelligence on where to find this base or just going from one job to another trying to figure this all out. So that's been pretty cool.
00:21:13
Speaker
I enjoyed seeing the other two, the clone cadets. I'm glad that we're starting to see a little bit of the clones are starting to really wake up to what the Empire is all about and how disposable they really are. And so I think that's going to lead towards something more later on in this season, where we're going to finally see maybe a clone revolt or something's going to happen, I think, which will be kind of fun. This is kind of just kind of
00:21:36
Speaker
like some of the beginnings I thought in this episode in terms of the big creature with the vines and everything I just kind of thought that was it was interesting in its own way having them kind of being caught by these these vines but again it was the Star Wars trope of another humongous creature
00:21:53
Speaker
Stopping them, you know what I mean? So out of the three, I know episode one was the slowest for you and I get why because it was all a set up episode, but this one I just kind of, I was kind of like, okay, when are we going to be done with this creature? And then move on with the rest of the story. So this one was the slowest out of the three for me. See, I kind of disagree. I like how we, you know, this is kind of a,
00:22:17
Speaker
We're just jumping in as Hunter and Wrecker are in the middle of their search for Omega. We don't see them towards the end of when they locate her, but they have not given up searching for her.
00:22:36
Speaker
ever since she was taken by Hemlock. Sure. Oh, yeah, I would have no doubt. Imagine these guys just saying, you know what, Omega, good luck to you. We'll see you hopefully around sometime. You know, it just shows how much of a family that they they truly are and how much they love this just child, you know, and wanted to be part of their lives. So it's I mean, that that's definitely the good part. I just for me, it was just the creature part to kind of bored me. Yeah, I kind of like the the fact that it was a
00:23:04
Speaker
Kind of a mutated or version of a Sarlacc, you know, I thought that was kind of cool. And, you know, how else do you destroy a Sarlacc other than, you know, dropping a shit ton of explosives or, you know, a very large explosive sail barge into it? Yes. That was that was a pretty cool sequence how they did that. That was I got to admit, that was cool. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah. That I think that alone is the reason why I like that episode over a little just a little bit more over the first one. Mm hmm. I gotcha.
00:23:34
Speaker
It makes sense. So all right. Anything else that you want to say about episode two? Not this one. No. OK. All right. So we'll move on to episode three, which I think for both of us, this is probably our favorite. I think we agreed on that. Yes, this is my favorite. All right. So episode three is called Shadows of Cantus.
Emperor Palpatine & Project Necromancer
00:23:57
Speaker
Emperor Palpatine makes an unscheduled visit to Dr. Hemlock on Mount Tantus.
00:24:02
Speaker
to see the progress being made on his Project Necromancer that he has them working on. Nala Se cannot prevent Emery, Dr. Emery, from moving forward with the test, so she kind of lets Omega know that it's time to go, that she has to start her escape.
00:24:22
Speaker
You know, so she's, you know, she tells Omega to make her escape. And of course, you know, the timing couldn't be worse, right? Exactly. Yes. So, you know, of all the days to make your escape, it happens to be the day where the big bosses, you know, visiting the office. Oh, yes. Be honest with you, I'm surprised that they managed to get away. I thought you would think there'd be tons of security going on around there. But it was what the Emperor shuttle, like how many V wings only a handful.
00:24:52
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, the Emperor was traveling late that day, I guess. He sure was. It wasn't like in Return of the Jedi when he showed up at the Death Star and the whole military was basically there flying in formation. You know? Right, right.
00:25:06
Speaker
But this was a great episode. I think just finally seeing how Project Necromancer kind of this is the beginning of everything that ties into what we saw in Rise of Skywalker went with Palpatine and his clone body that was falling apart. So it sounds like they made the project successful, but at the same time, it wasn't fully successful. You know, he was able to get himself a clone body, but it was flawed and it deteriorated. So no matter what, they were never able to
00:25:34
Speaker
basically develop the Kaminoan technology properly for him to be able to live on is basically is how he wanted to be immortal pretty much. Right, which is why I think they're turning to try to find blood samples that have the high M count so they can approach a different way.
00:25:49
Speaker
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. That was another part that I really loved about the episodes. They were mentioning the M count. Obviously, we know that's midichlorians, but, you know, it just be they haven't used the word yet, but it was really cool. And I was surprised that it was Omega who had such she was the only one of the clones that had this this high M count. I'm curious. I'd like to know how she ended up getting this M count as high. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she is a mutation. It's, you know, she's much like the bad batch. She's a mutation. So
00:26:19
Speaker
I don't know what it was about her creation that but yeah, it seems like she seems to be imbued with a little bit more of a, you know, of a higher midichlorian count, which doesn't necessarily mean that she can use the force, but it explains a lot about her and her particular skill sets. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, from the beginning, she's always seemed to be more mature and more knowledgeable about things and
00:26:44
Speaker
anybody her age. I mean, she's technically she's older than the rest of the Bad Batch, which is ironic. But yeah, it's yeah, it's this is this just kind of set up a whole new arc for Omega. Now she's she's the most important thing that the Empire needs to make sure that this project works. So now we're going to have basically
00:27:05
Speaker
Essentially, the whole empire is basically going to be looking for this girl, you know, whatever resources are required. I mean, even Palpatine said that to Dr. What's his what's his name again? I can't remember his name. Hemlock. Hemlock. Yeah, Dr. Hemlock. I mean, he said any resources you need are yours. You know, and you can see it's that went to Dr. Hemlock's head, you know, now it's going to he's going to end up acting like he's the most important imperial in the whole the whole
00:27:29
Speaker
army pretty much at this point. But it was really good. It was nice to see that Omega was able to free Crosshair and they were able to get out and she's essentially, hopefully she's going to bring him home to the rest of their brothers. Right. Right. Yeah. I love how Omega refused to give up on Crosshair.
00:27:59
Speaker
you know, no matter what, you know, as many times as he admonished her for trying to help him and, you know, waiting for him and helping him escape, she was not going to leave him behind because that's what she does for her family. Exactly. Yeah, it's yeah, it's such a it's it's such a Star Wars thing to do, you know, the power of
00:28:21
Speaker
the power of found family is such a consistent recurrent theme. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, out of I mean, the bad batch is very united in them being a family. But really, Omega is kind of the glue that really holds them together and reminds them that they're all family and that importance. Yeah, she really is. And she's
00:28:39
Speaker
Yeah, she is the heart and soul of the Bad Batch and everyone knows it. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, so it'll be, it's been great to watch is the next few episodes unfolded how she kind of brings the family back together. Yep. And of course, you know, we, by the end of this episode, we have, you know, Omega and crosshair reunited with Batcher because she comes to the day to save the day yet again. Yes. Yes. We love our Batcher.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yes, and they successfully escape off world in a shuttle. And yeah, so that kind of leads us to the next episode, which is, you know, it's
00:29:18
Speaker
So the episode title on that one is a different approach.
Crash Landing and Regrouping
00:29:23
Speaker
So that's episode four. And this kind of features two distinct storylines. You've got Hunter and Wrecker have their own storyline going on. And then you have everything going on still a Tantis. And then you have Omega and Crosshair, all kind of
00:29:43
Speaker
have their own stories consistently going on. Yeah, there's a lot going on in this episode. And yeah, so Omega and crosshair crash land, you know, because they can't. Well, yeah, so they end up crash landing because something happens to the hyperdrive, right? Right, exactly.
00:30:02
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, they end up on this planet of Lao and crash land. And they're basically they're trying to get the communication equipment working again, that's kind of their what they're doing. And then we have back at Mount Tantus, we have Nala say is imprisoned and hemlock is questioning her. Of course, hemlock knows how much he favors Omega and knows that, you know, he that Nala say was instrumental in, you know, helping them escape.
00:30:31
Speaker
But Nala Sei still tries to do everything she can to shield them from finding that blood sample, even going so far as to try to say that it was a false positive. But I don't think that they fell for that, unfortunately. Exactly. Yeah. No, I agree. I agree. So what did you like about this episode?
00:30:51
Speaker
I just like how it was kind of it was, you know, it never really let up, you know, you were we were always constantly having something going on. And every time every time that we revisited all the three different stories going on, you know, it was it was kind of an action packed episode for you know,
00:31:30
Speaker
Actually bribed that Imperial worker which helped get Han through even though Kira didn't but I thought that was a neat little kind of touch I don't know if they did that on purpose or if it's just kind of was a
00:31:32
Speaker
despite everything that happened
00:31:42
Speaker
Kind of a coincidence, but that was really cool. And I love how Omega showed her, again, she's got these unique skills somehow. He was able to play this card game with some sort of, I don't know if it was a pirate or whoever it was, and then that Imperial officer. So I thought that was a lot of fun. This episode, just like you said, just kept moving and moving and moving. There were no slow parts, no boring parts whatsoever.
00:32:05
Speaker
I do. I think that that was a lot of fun and I love that they were finally able to get off planet and that they were able to reunite with, with Hunter and wrecker. Um, you know, how touching was that hug when, uh, wrecker was in Omega, you know, Omega ran to him and get in wrecker gave her that humongous hug. Right. Right. And then of course, you know, they, they all see cross hair and naturally their guards go up and, you know, Omega has to essentially, you know, let them know that it's okay that he's
00:32:34
Speaker
You know, he's he's helped her and that he's back that cross hair is back. Yes. And they starting to see the reality of what they've all been trying to tell him from the beginning. Right. You know, right. So, yeah. So, yeah, then the next episode is kind of a reconciliation episode for Hunter and for cross hair because, you know, they end up working together this episode called The Return.
00:33:00
Speaker
So in the return, the team regroups on the world of Pabu, which, you know, we've visited quite a bit last year, last season of the Bad Batch. You know, it's that idyllic planet. You know, we, you know, Hunter, Wrecker, Omega, and Crosshair all return. Echo comes and, you know, we're reunited with Echo again for the first time in a very, you know, since the end of season two. And yeah, they, they find that the
00:33:30
Speaker
Additionally, he will voice several other clones. Hunter and crosshair. Well, I guess I got to try to stop saying that word because that character is also the wake word for my Alexa device in this room. I gotcha. I gotcha. Are you going to keep there? Nevermind. I have no idea what I'm going to do. We might keep this in heck. Yeah. Heck, it was a little blooper.
00:33:58
Speaker
So so the clone who shall not be named from from me Yes, okay that work although the clone who shall not be named is kind of funny though, too All right, so they all reunite on pabu and they end up following, you know going on a mission together to try to get back to a
00:34:24
Speaker
you know, free the rest of the imprisoned clones that are remaining on Tantus. Yeah, so basically, this is kind of, you know, they're, you know, now that the Bad Batch is reunited with as many members as are remaining, they are trying to get back to Mount Tantus to rescue more of their clone brethren. So what did you think of this one?
00:34:44
Speaker
I like the bantering back and forth between Hunter and Crosshair just talking about all the tension that they've had the last two seasons and then working together to try to solve a problem trying to deal with this another yet another creature episode.
00:34:59
Speaker
And you're trying to learn how they can rebuild trust with each other and i'm glad that they were able to do that at least tentatively. By the end of this episode i also love that we're starting to learn a little bit more about the whole plot with the clones and how it's how the bad batch is starting to get more familiar with what's going on so we can kinda see how the rest of the season is going to progress.
00:35:20
Speaker
Other than that, I thought it was an okay episode. It wasn't the most interesting. It kind of felt filler to me. I know you don't like that word. Yeah. Yeah. It did feel a little bit like that. What did you think? I thought it was okay. This is one of the episodes where I kind of found myself drifting in and out of watching it just because it wasn't that appealing. Yeah. And again, just yet another giant creature, which this time in this episode, Wrecker kind of breaks the fourth wall a bit and
00:35:49
Speaker
Or is it breaking the fourth wall or is it just more self-referential? You know note noting the pattern that yeah It's yet another big creature and they always seem to get stuck fighting some big old ugly Exactly. Exactly. So he's so I guess some people are starting to feel like you and I are feeling a little bit with some of these things yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of a classic Star Wars story trope, but
00:36:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's kind of been used quite a bit in the Bad Batch, especially, you know, considering that this is only three seasons, that's it's a pretty heavy use. Exactly, exactly. So, yes, it wasn't. I mean, there were some some good parts about it, again, going back to their relationship and starting to rebuild the family unit. But other than that, I just kind of thought it was a bore. Yep. Yep. So I think we're just going to move on to the next episode, which actually is the next set of two episodes, since they both release
00:36:44
Speaker
in the same day. So we've got infiltration and extraction.
Teth Infiltration and Escape
00:36:48
Speaker
And ultimately, this episode is, you know, getting, you know, getting the team back into Mount Tantus, right? You know, we, we have all the batch together, they've all kind of sorted out their differences with crosshair, and they've, you know, kind of fully welcome him back on the team. And
00:37:06
Speaker
This is the episode where we get our reunion with another very famous clone for fans of the Clone Wars. We get the reunion with Rex, which is good to see the old guy yet again making his way into Star Wars animation. What are your thoughts of this episode as a whole? Infiltration?
00:37:34
Speaker
This one, I actually thought was really good. It was nice to see the the the senator again from Rex's house. She's still trying to work on on trying to earn clone rights and how that she's still considered a danger. But by the by the empire, obviously, there was this assassination attempt. It gives more and more information on this. These clones that are being basically retrained or reset.
00:37:58
Speaker
to fight, I guess, covert missions for the Empire. So it's becoming more and more interesting what they're all about. Yeah, they're kind of like the, the clone ninja, you know, they're kind of like the ninja of the clone forces, right? Essentially, yeah, or like the Navy SEALs or something like that. Yeah, like SEAL team or yeah, yeah, that's, that's maybe a little bit more
00:38:21
Speaker
Accurate, I guess. Yeah. So I can't wait to see if they were going to see a little bit more about how big that that group of clones is. And if any of them are going to end up selling out the empire, you know, maybe get beyond that reconstruction or reprogramming or whatever you want to call it. Right. Right. Yeah, it's definitely got some, you know, it's setting up. Hopefully, hopefully, you know, we won't have that happen. We won't have a betrayal. But, you know, I have a feeling that at some point
00:38:51
Speaker
Yeah, something's going to happen and the hammer is going to come down a lot closer towards to the bad batch than it has to this point. Yes, absolutely. Now, one of the base that they were at it, I would do in my research has said it was on Teth. Was that a separatist place or no? Um, that is a very good question. So the planet Teth, I know that is something that. Yeah, that was in the Clone Wars and it was.
00:39:20
Speaker
I don't think it belonged to the separatists. I want to say that it was inhabited by huts, humans, and several other species. Okay, okay.
00:39:32
Speaker
Oh, it was part of it was on a trade route. So maybe that's how it got involved in the Clone Wars. I gotcha. I just I only reason I'm asking is because when I first saw them walking in there, I thought it kind of looked like a separatist room kind of like from Attack of the Clones. There was like that big pillar pit. So I didn't I just wasn't sure. So I figured I'd ask the expert. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Teth. Teth is the planet where in the very the original Clone Wars movie, that's where Sarge Ventress brought Jabba's son.
00:40:02
Speaker
Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That's how it's part of the Clone Wars. At least that's where it first appeared. I think there were other instances where Teth came up in the Clone Wars as well, but I can't think specifically. I gotcha. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Thank you for answering that. All right. Let's see here. Trying to see if there was anything else about this episode.
00:40:30
Speaker
Well, Infiltration, I think that's pretty much all I had to say about it. I guess that would lead into, what, episode seven, Extraction, right? Yup, Extraction is the final episode that we've seen so far. It's the seventh episode. Yeah, so basically what we have going on in this one, following a battle with the clone ex-trooper CX-2, Rex and the Bad Badge, look to escape Teth. Meanwhile, Commander Wolf, now in service of the Empire, arrives with the reinforcements. He quickly clashes with CX-2 over how to proceed.
00:40:59
Speaker
It all leads to a confrontation between Crosshair and CX2, and a choice for Wolf, who must decide the fate of his old friends. So yeah, so yet again we see another clone that we are familiar with from the Clone Wars, and unfortunately this time he is not on
00:41:19
Speaker
the side that he once was and the side that we hoped he would be on. Right, absolutely. I mean, Rex must have given them a pretty good speech at the end because if I remember correctly, Wolf let them go.
00:41:31
Speaker
Yeah, he did. And his troops were kind of like, sir, what are you doing here? What's going on? And Wolf just kind of said, let him go. Just kind of left it at that. So they're going to be repercussions for that ought to have to be because obviously we see Wolf in Star Wars Rebels with Rex. Now, I thought for sure they in one of these two episodes, they mentioned Gregor as well.
00:41:50
Speaker
Oh, that's a very good question. And I know, yeah. So, yeah. So eventually by rebels, it's Wolf, Gregor and Rex are all together on, on the, the, the old Republic tank thing. Yeah. So they're, yeah, they're, they're traveling together. So yeah, I don't remember how Gregor comes up, but I wonder if we will get that reunion by the end of this or not. Yeah. I thought I heard his name brought up a couple of times and we didn't see him. Right. Yeah.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah, that'll that'll be interesting to see if we get it his his debut and you know We finally see how this leads into rebels. Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely I thought it was a really great episode just again shows how strong the leader Rex is and how much of a Basically, I guess an influence that he still has over some of the other clones He's getting them to kind of think about what the Empire has been doing to them and what they've been doing to the galaxy Getting them to kind of override their chips and kind of being like look you got to think for yourselves again here
00:42:49
Speaker
Right, right. Absolutely. And, you know, it's a theme that has has been present since the very first two episodes of The Bad Batch is, you know, the the constant fight between soldiers following the orders and, you know, breaking their conditioning. It's, you know, it's it's constantly coming back up as we approach the finish line of this series. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. So I have I have just kind of a thought. Now, I don't know if this is maybe just in my mind or what.
00:43:18
Speaker
We've talked about how this season they're kind of setting out the episodes like three at a time, then one, then one, then two, things like that. How important do you think the Bad Batch is to Disney? That is a very good question. Give me just a second.
00:43:39
Speaker
Oh, sorry about that. My throat was really dry. Oh, it's OK. It happens. It happens. Yeah. The reason why I'm thinking about it is it kind of feels like they're just burning off the series. It's just kind of like there wasn't a whole lot of fanfare, a whole lot of anything about it. It's just kind of like it's here. We have this final season. Let's just get through it as fast as we can. I don't know if it's so much that or it's you know, I think they are trying to space out all the Star Wars content that we have coming this year.
00:44:07
Speaker
I think it's very purposeful. I think, you know, because whenever the Bad Batch wraps up on May 1st, that's, you know, of course, May the 4th, I think we're going to get something I think we're going to get a trailer for the acolyte, because that's the next series that we're getting is I think we're going to get a like a full trailer and a release window for for the acolyte if not if not a specific release date, I think we'll get that on May 4th.
00:44:32
Speaker
Okay, that yeah, okay that that puts it in a different perspective. I'm sure they weren't doing that. It just kind of made me wonder a little bit with the way they were kind of doing multiple episodes. Now, don't get me wrong. I love when they have more than one episode a week because that's just extra fun, you know? But it was just kind of a side thought. Yeah, I think we're going to end up getting, well, we got Bad Batch to kind of kick off the spring. I think to kick off summer, we're going to get
00:45:00
Speaker
the acolyte and then I think right around Christmas time maybe you know maybe November December is when we'll see skeleton crew which is the last
00:45:10
Speaker
new project coming out this year. Sounds good. I can't wait for a lot of these new projects. It'll be great. Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm really looking forward to the acolyte and skeleton crew, Jude law, pirates. I'm really psyched to see where that goes and can't wait to see a trailer for that as well. Absolutely. Absolutely. Says it's going to be a fun year, but now I'm really looking forward to seeing how the bad batch ends. Yes. Yes.
00:45:35
Speaker
Absolutely. I want to see where, you know, how close to rebels we get. And, you know, that, you know, I wonder if we'll even get the announcement of a new animated series at some point this year to debut next year. Yeah. I mean, it's very possible. It's, you know, because it seems like ever since they brought back the Clone Wars for season seven, they've essentially used the, they use the Clone Wars season seven as a soft, you know, a soft pilot.
00:46:03
Speaker
for the Bad Batch, and then the Bad Batch, when it ends, I wonder if that's going to end up being like a soft pilot for the next animated series. Yes. No, that makes perfect sense. Absolutely. I mean, because you're right, it's got feelers in all these different areas of the Star Wars universe that we've seen future-wise. So yeah, so it's going to be leading into a bunch of different stuff.
00:46:24
Speaker
Yep, absolutely. And, you know, this is the year for Star Wars. I think last year was the year for Star Trek and not quite as much good Star Wars. So, yeah, it's kind of funny how 2023 was the year of Trek and this is going to shape up to be more of Star Wars here. Absolutely, absolutely. Move the ship out of the asteroid field so that we can send a clear transmission. Captain, incoming message.
Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron & Star Wars Future
00:46:52
Speaker
And heck, we haven't even talked about the movie news. Let's let's end with that. So remember, remember Patty Jenkins was working on Rogue Squadron? Yes. So if you remember, you know, they they released this teaser video of her rollerblading down a runway and eventually coming to rest in front of an X wing.
00:47:17
Speaker
Okay. And to announce that her father was a fighter pilot in the Air Force or the Navy. I can't remember which one. And she always wanted to do like a fighter pilot, like a dogfight movie. So this is her chance to do that in Star Wars.
00:47:34
Speaker
you know, then whenever she took on Wonder Woman 3, she had to kind of put the pause on Rogue Squadron. And everybody thought that the movie was going to be canceled after that because, you know, anytime they say that work on such and such Star Wars has stopped, you know, it's typically not good news, right? Exactly. Yeah.
00:47:55
Speaker
Well, you know, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I don't know, we're not gonna see Wonder Woman 3 because Warner Brothers has canceled that project and, you know, in favor of giving James Gunn the reigns to DC to build a consistent universe. So Wonder Woman 3 no longer exists. And lo and behold, we get some word this week, earlier this week, that
00:48:22
Speaker
you know, that right prior to the writer strike starting,
00:48:26
Speaker
Kathy Kennedy had met with Patty Jenkins and to resume their discussion on Rogue Squadron, and they agreed to terms, and then the writer strike started. So, Patty Jenkins was not allowed to work on her script. She wasn't allowed to do anything script related with the movie while the strike was going on. So now I think she's finally getting ready to sit down and start her first draft or maybe second or third draft of the script. Who knows?
00:48:53
Speaker
So yeah, so yet another Star Wars movie on top of the Mandalorian and Grogu and then the other.
00:49:01
Speaker
three that were announced. So maybe we actually have a good chance of seeing five Star Wars movies over the course of the next decade. That would be wonderful. It's been a while since there's been a movie. I know after, what was it after Rise of Skywalker, a lot of it, they were kind of pushing more toward the streaming end of it, which seemed to be really wildly successful there. So it'll be nice to see it back on the big screen.
00:49:24
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's where I belong. So, you know, Star Wars is made for the big, I think, the big screen. Oh, absolutely. I think Star Wars always belongs on the big screen. I just think that the Rise of Skywalker didn't go too well for some people.
00:49:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's, you know, and then Solo was kind of a mess. Yeah, good movie, but they kind of bungled the launch on that one. Yes, exactly. But yeah, so yeah, we've got a lot of good Star Wars movies to look forward to, hopefully. And yeah, oh, are you
00:50:00
Speaker
Did you see that Phantom Menace is coming back for the 25th anniversary to theaters? Oh, yes, I cannot wait to go and see that what I'm trying to see if I can get my Star Trek club for all of us to go as one of our monthly activities for May. I don't know if you know this or not, but May 4th, obviously Star Wars Day. It's also Star Wars Night at PNC Park in Pittsburgh. So yeah, yeah, I did see that. I'm wondering if I don't know if we'll try to make it or not.
00:50:28
Speaker
I don't know. We'll see if I can get a deal on on pirates tickets because that would be fun. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. That's another last year. I organized the Stella Parada, all of us to go there. And so I'm doing that again this year. I actually have a meeting with somebody with the pirates on Tuesday at one o'clock to get our our group together again to go down. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. I mean, do you think I could jump in potentially? Sure. Why not? Like if you get a good group rate, I might actually
00:50:59
Speaker
Try to join you guys, if that's okay. I'd love it. Absolutely. And then our ship's captain, she'd love to meet you too. Guaranteed. All right. I think we met briefly at Steel City Con. Yes, Maria. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. So yeah. Yeah. Let me know if you get a good, you know, what group rate you get and where you get in seats and, you know. Exactly. Yep. I will let you know this week after the call.
00:51:22
Speaker
All right. Sounds good. So I think that's all we're going to talk about. We kind of did this backwards and out of order with the news recap at the end, just because my brain didn't have it planned out. I've been trying to figure out like a lot of any Star Trek news. There really hasn't been a lot going on. Yeah. Yeah. Just the only thing really is the premiere of Discovery season five. And yeah, you know, that's, that's about it. Yeah. Yeah. Three weeks away, four weeks. Yep. Yep. Right.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Three weeks and five days, I think, actually. Yes. So it'll be here before you know it. You got it. All right. So that's going to do it for episode 34 of Captain's Logs and Lightsabers.
Episode Wrap-Up and Zencaster Promotion
00:52:03
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00:52:15
Speaker
We're gonna, Chris is gonna check it out even though he's a little behind, but I think we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna get together and talk about how we think the first episode of season five went, and yeah, we'll go from there. All right, so yeah, until then, may the force be with you. And live long and prosper.
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