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Movie Night with Michael & Friends
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Check out the show tonight while my guest co-host, fellow live trivia host & entertainer, David Ulam, & I talk about the cinematic excellence of "The Last of the Mohicans", "The Departed", and whatever else we end up talking about
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Introduction and Hosts
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Hello, this is Arliss Walker, frontman for the Southern Outlaws Band, and I'm here in my own words that Michael definitely did not write. To present to you a true generational talent.
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No, I'm sorry. That doesn't cover it. The man you're about to behold is a true juggernaut of entertainment and comedic force of nature. and all-around humanitarian, and the kind of entertainer I hope to be someday. I am not overselling it when I say it is most definitely your privilege to be here to watch Movie Night with Michael and Friends. So...
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Buckle up, folks, and prepare for the most fun you'll have with your clothes on. And it is my honor to present to you my hero, my mentor, and most importantly, my dear friend, Michael Copenhaver, because he is good for the soul.
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Big round of applause for my man, Arliss Walker, there on the intro. Thank
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one for our list love you brother thank you and the southern outlaws band appreciate you guys what's up everybody we're back for another night of michael moon movie night with michael and friends fuck up my own title of the show movie i with michael lor my special co-host tonight my man david uhlam what's up brother so man Thanks for coming out, man. Appreciate you. thanks for having me so so here He is a trivia host extraordinaire like myself. We both trivia guys.
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Way smarter than me. Way smarter than me. His trivia is way harder than mine mine. Mine's for idiots like me. His is this for smart people like him. Check his trivia out if you're in the Warren area. He's all over Facebook. D-A-V-I-D-U-L-A-M. David Ulam.
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That being said, we got somebody else in here tonight just to fuck around for a little while.
Movie Discussions: Historical Contexts and Accuracy
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Boom. Brittany's here to make us go off the rails. doing a weird arm thing. You're a muted, Sprit.
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You know, i I'm a professional.
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Welcome to the show little buddy. So we're going to talk about some movies that you wanted to talk about, one of which I've never seen before. and people going to be like, how the fuck you host a movie show and you've never seen it? Yeah, thats ah ah it took me by surprise as well, um especially fact that you said you don't like Daniel Day-Lewis. Also threw me for a loop. Not a fan, not a huge, huge fan. Loved him in a couple of things, but he did my left foot.
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I was the wrong age. that that That's not one one of my favorites. That's his Academy Award winning role. Yeah, it was. It wasn't... What's the name of the father? one was pretty good. was the boxer. I didn't watch that one. Obviously, The Weeknd's we agreed. As far as I'm concerned, sure. I don't really see him in a lot of shit. I kind of avoided him up to my left foot. The movie we were talking about is Gangster. When Michael asked me what want to talk about,
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um kind of did a recent rewatch on that and departed so i was like oh 2000 scorsese they're basically the same film just 100 years apart or 150 years apart whatever um but yeah you know you have leo with no family who infiltrates a crime organization goes undercover And both villains in the film are played by award-winning actors. who just Unbelievable. Like Frank frank Costello and nicholson did and William Cuddy, the Butcher. He was great in that movie.
00:03:42
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Yeah, both really cool movies. I thought we could talk about that. But we don't we don't have to focus on Gang since you've never even seen it. It doesn't matter. If you want to draw your parallels, look, I don't have to have seen something to talk about it. all know time I haven't seen it in a while. It was a really good movie.
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what it mean it's it's nice string It is based on a book and it is it's it brings up like an interesting part of history that doesn't get talked about a lot other than when the movie came out. that the The biggest and most violent riot in the history's country was in New York.
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It was because of the the draft conscription for the Civil War. And there were like race riots and just the mobs that took over the city. They called in the army. Sorry, your cat. i know she great Fascinating.
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um So yeah, and and you know, when you think of violent uprisings in America, that's not one that usually it comes to mind. but The whole movie is in the backdrop of that. And I think the parallels between that and the party, and we can talk more about the party, are just the, he kinda, Scorsese is brilliant at just kind of discussing different themes of race as a class system and how that works culturally. Thanks, Joe, I appreciate it. And also corruption, like Gangs of New York is about political corruption and where Departed is more. Did it have something to with schools?
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Gangs? Yes. No. Like a school tax or some shit like that. I know what you're thinking of. What is your favorite type of genre of movies? Is it like history type shit? Are you a history book?
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I mean, yeah. I was a history major. So I do. I love historical drama. I love historical dramas. I mean, i love i love all movies, but that those and comedies are my go-tos.
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Well, knowing you as well as I think I do. you probably researched about the the backdrop of getting in new york and all that oh yeah i you know the literal history of it not i'm not you know i didn't read a book about it sure you can't teach a course on it but you did your research yeah i know a little bit based on a true story how closely based is it well so here's the funny thing is it braveheart based Yeah, a little bit. I mean, it's... there's I don't know. no the characters are fictions Most of the characters are fictional, but the backdrop of what was going on in New York at the time was is based on all the gangs in New York.
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So basically in the 1860s, these gangs just ruled Manhattan. They were police, but they were all corrupt. And they just kind of let these gangs do whatever they want.
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So they basically had carte blanche to just... It reminds me of Donnie... Brasco or whatever. Donnie Brasco. What is an 1860 movie about the about so Civil War having anything to do with Donnie Brasco? I know. I don't know. I'm with you What the fuck is going on with this bullshit? What about Bigfoot?
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Come on. What's the truth? what's the truth Britt, tell me what you meant. It's just because it was based off of a time back in the day where y'all are holding shit.
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Yeah, that's it.
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I'm with you. It's the Brittany effect. so trying I'm trying to... Never mind. I'm just going to shut the fuck up. Good call. what a What I find interesting is those Based on True Story movies. We did a show on this before, but I'll talk about it again briefly with you because i know you have something to say about it, I'm sure. Based on True Story, and then you hear, like, you get to do the research, start to do How the fuck is this even based on it? Okay, so the guy's name is Jim? All right. it du my My great example of that is you ever see the movie Strangers? Yeah. yeah
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Yeah. yeah that's At the beginning, it says based on a true story. and After, I was like, oh, man, this really happened? and I found out it was based on like the producer or the director of one of them.
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When they're they were they were even alone. Someone knocked on their door and ran away. and that's what they based the whole but oh like That's not based on a true story. No one showed up in you know pagan masks and murdered your whole family.
00:08:13
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Yes, Zanfio. She is definitely stoned. Much love y'all. One there on my favorite
Stephen King Adaptations
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things. That whole chill based on true story, that really, really irks me at times because there's no Like the Gein thing. Like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. It has nothing to do with Ed Gein. Other than, yeah, okay, the guy had a leather face. Right, right. But other than that, it had nothing to do with a lot of the weirdness of Ed Gein.
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Now, Psycho, much more interesting character study of Ed Gein. Did you know that? ah but Briefly, or I have some knowledge of that. You're more into the horror scene. The whole reason Hitchcock did that movie was because of Ed Gein.
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And he totally based Perkins' character off of it. He's based on his relationship with his mother. Exactly right. it was It was, in that respect, so, so accurate.
00:09:13
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But in so many other respects, she had nothing to do with it all. And you also know Halloween is not based on the life of William Shatner. The life of times of William Shatner. It'd be way cooler if it was.
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You ain't lying. That's a good one. yeah One of my favorite movies is Stand By Me.
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Do you know who wrote it? like that movie. was Stephen King. Yeah, it was a Rob Reiner. I thought so, but I didn't want to be wrong. That was a Bachman book. ah Yeah, I probably was 12 the last time I saw it. Has River Phoenix in it?
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Yes, i legendary you the Luckily, they got a troll bag. Would have been a much different role. Yeah. mean, he was quite young.
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It's homegrown season.
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no What is your Mount Rushmore of movies?
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I didn't bring any lists in. Mine or his? Yours. She's heard by her. That's a rough one to do. Yeah. that's so why don't we do it like this? As far as historical dramas, what's your Mount Rushmore?
00:10:38
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Well, see, I don't care if they're accurate. Yeah, exactly. That's fine. Like Braveheart is just... So there's there's one on that. It's a great movie. It's a great movie. The music. like to say face ah I mean, the actual history in the movie is so fucking off. It's not even funny. well list that There was one on Outlaw King on Netflix. That is a more accurate representation of what was going on.
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Scotland if that's a film I didn't see it fine yeah but they're now see I don't I prefer the actual documentaries yeah on the on the stuff I don't know it's like escape doesn't need to be exactly you love to move to so yeah you gotta to see it's a yeah it's a six-part or eight-part documentary called the true story of Wyatt Earp's revenge right okay dude watch that shit well yeah and you're talking movies versus reality the shootout at the OK Corral lasted like 47 seconds in real time.
00:11:36
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In the movie, it was like a 20-minute scene. It felt that way. It felt that way. It really drug. But stuff like that, I find very interesting. like I prefer the real history. And a movie that tries to incorporate as much of the real facts, I prefer that.
00:11:51
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I dig historical fiction, don't get me wrong. yeah But in my opinion, one of the most worst fucking movies ever made, Knight's Tale. Oh. One of the worst movies ever made. Yeah.
00:12:02
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I mean, it's it's more of a comedy than it is a... Hey. Good to see you stopping through. Divya's hole says, sub you bunch of can'ts. I already did it while y'all were talking. commenting on this Yeah. oh who's actually I got a homemade movie I think guys can review. Shaman, I don't want to see your fucking Halloween tape.
00:12:24
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Yeah. It was a great movie. Which movie? I already did all that. Well, you've got to acknowledge it. you can't just put them up and not acknowledge it.
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I
Michael's Bear Encounter Story
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wasn't going to touch you off. You guys are busy talking. Dream of big women. I just saw that on a t-shirt the other day. Speaking the movies, since it is a movie show, and Shaman brought up, he's got a homemade movie we should review. I don't know.
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Don't worry, we're not going to do that. I have to see it first. I'm sure it's going to be something for me. But I've got one for you right here. We're going to watch this 52-second video. It's from my honeymoon. We just came back on Monday.
00:13:14
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Army of Darkness and Willow. Two other excellent historical fucking movies. Here we though. at that, though. Look at
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He's saying screw you Chevy.
00:13:33
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That's right bear. Chevy sucks.
00:13:38
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Get in there. What's in there? get them
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Do you smell something yummy?
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Are there sandwiches? Oh, cake? Hi!
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Oh, get him.
00:14:16
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she so far that was in downtown Gowenbury. Sue, all my wife, all she wanted to see was a bear. Not in a circus or not in a cage somewhere in a zoo or whatever, just a natural bear. and And it's natural habitat, a hotel parking lot. We took three drives on the nature drive. We saw one bear for like 14 seconds. It was like a junior.
00:14:37
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I was like, well, shit, it's that small. We'll hang out for a minute. Maybe we'll see mama or something. Nothing. The blind cars behind us are all, let's go. So We didn't see a bear but for about 14 seconds. I mean, it was a brief click, click, trying to get a couple pictures of it as it ran across the street.
00:14:54
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So we're leaving dinner. It's the last night where there was Sunday night and we're leaving our dinner and in the parking lot across from us, coming out of a parking garage, we see that bear.
00:15:08
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It was a day's in, like you said, yeah motel parking lot. I thought I spotted. Yeah, dude. And it ran across. It was mucking around with some ah garbage cans and shit. And it's just like, this is all I wanted. This is all I wanted. she was almost in tears. It was great.
00:15:21
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And then it ran to the other parking lot. let's follow it around, see what happens. And we watched that for several minutes. And out to be fair, I wasn't just thinking, man, fuck this guy in his truck. I was trying to get information on how to call the police and tell him, A, wild bear in the parking lot. It's kind of messing up some of your cars and shit that came out your parking garage.
00:15:38
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Somebody. Yeah. ah But all can get was the 1-800 number, and I know they're not going to link me directly to the fucking hotel. Yeah, I can't believe Days Inn doesn't have better customer service. I do, especially in downtown Gallenburg.
00:15:50
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Surprisingly. Gallenburg, it's just like part of the way of life there. There's just bears walking around in Target. So we're taping this. yeah themberg is um cutness hall holds a lot So he's as close as we are, but he's on the truck. He's walking.
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My wife's like, excuse me, excuse me. There's a beer. He goes, whatever. He's on walking. He didn't want to hear anything. I was like, shut up, bitch. I'm listening to my earbuds. yeah It was hilarious. And she goes, I'm listening Humpty Ha Ha. She's like, fuck you.
00:16:23
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yeah we watch out for funny because like the bear was like tearing up that truck and she's just like in just like for riding the car go for riding the car come on yeah she's um but yeah that was an interesting thing and that happened and uh yeah homemade videos you brought it up up so i had to play one that was a bear in downtown ah Jedi says that shaman in a furry costume.
00:16:51
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I don't know what the wife's got planned or what Dave's got going on. Maybe we'll pop into your show afterwards tonight. Great to see you guys. Thanks both of you for popping in. Peck and an acorn pointed at me.
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you had a good good trip though
The Revenant and DiCaprio's Performances
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overall? it was fucking fantastic, dude. Yeah, Smoky Mountains are awesome. That's real shit, dude. Merry life. Merry life. See you, babe.
00:17:12
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maryly steve yeah so Speaking of bears, are you a fan of The Revenant? We're talking about Lee. It was a great movie.
00:17:23
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It's not a great game watch. Again, the actual story is better. yeah Better than the amazing shit you saw in that movie. they yeah They glorified it up a little bit.
00:17:36
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and He actually ended up forgiving the guy. He did not go and cut him down. right that That was his plan. hollywood and but When he looked it and down the barrel and he was like, you know what? I'm here. Fuck it. yeah What's the point?
00:17:47
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Plus, I made it this far. Why do want to kill him in broad daylight? old town and And my last day is getting corn-holed. So, for mo you were going to talk about also The Departed.
00:17:59
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Now, that's the movie I can talk about all day, every day. Loosely based on Whitey Bulger. Yeah. Very loosely based. I don't know why they need to base it on anything. It's just great.
00:18:10
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It's a great story. They had to have a reason for Marky Mark to use his Boston accent. Yeah. okay affect What's up, Wally? He's fantastic in that. It's a small role, but he kind of steals the scene. every time Everybody that movie shines. Are you telling us cunts? Yeah.
00:18:29
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Yeah. There's so, I mean, yeah. but It's basically Jack's last real role. Maybe. Well, no I mean, he hasn't been anything since then. That was six.
00:18:41
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He's been the hermit since then. That doesn't mean done. Although he doesn't seem to think he doesn't really want to do anymore. Really? He's sick? Well, he's like 90-something. Dude, 99 years old.
00:18:53
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Mel Brooks. Yeah, well. just started some people each there Right now, they're filming Spaceballs 2. Filming right now Spaceballs 2. Speaking of Spaceballs, this was so far off topic that don't give shit. Have you heard the big news about Star Wars of Mark Hamill?
00:19:11
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and There will never be in another Mark Hamill appearance ever in Star Wars again. I want to talk to you about that. If they do anything with Mark Hamill, like Skywalker's character again, it's going to be recast. I'm not going to do any deep fake shit. Thank God. Yeah. You're doing Star Wars stuff?
00:19:33
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Not really. I'm not against it. My name was a huge fan. used to go. towards me with you huge fan used to go to the theater with them see all the new sci-fi stuff. stores I like, I just, I'm not in all like the Disney Plus. They have like one new Star Wars show that comes out every month. I can't. it' I wish it was more like that. Even though most of them were kind of bad.
00:19:55
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I can't get enough Star Wars. But okay. Yeah, if you're not if you're not that into it, it's it's not that important. I haven't had a chance to talk about it yet. I love the movies. um the the original three original trilogy the old t i mean i'm 44 so i was born in 81 so as a kid those those uh vhs's got a lot of burn what up wala the shorts be with you loving it so got powered by paul channel wallah that's him i'm gonna head out right on hey thanks for popping through sorry you didn't get to talk much we we're just about to go
00:20:37
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You found me the Donnie Brasco. but but You fucking dick. I'm an asshole. yeah Thanks for having me. I didn't even mean to come in here. I wanted to be in the comments. I didn't even mean to pop it. Thank you. Have a great night.
00:20:58
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Will do. later But, uh, Dude, the Departed, every role is great. Charlie Sheen, or not Charlie, Martin Sheen. Fantastic.
00:21:09
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And what is that fucker's secret? Not doing a bunch of crack in Tiger Blood because he looks great, great. So, how you feel about Star Wars is how I feel about the West Wing. That's my favorite. Oh, right on. That's my favorite network drama series of all time.
00:21:25
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I mean, it's a comfort show. At night, if I just want to fall asleep to something, I just go West Wing with your eyes. um so every time i watch that scene where he dies and they throw him off the roof it's like i feel like i'm watching my president be assassinated it's it's ah it hits a little harder for me i get it yeah right you can't see him outside the role but yeah he's great man you want to be a cop you want to pretend to be cop right We must know you're going to watch out. Yeah.
00:21:54
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His role, to me, that's peak Alec Baldwin. That's as good as Alec Baldwin gets. It was like 30 Rock Alec Baldwin. Yeah. He's like, let me talk to you for a second. Then he slaps the shit out. He's like, you fucked me the whole thing up. It's so great. Then his little speech about getting married. She was probably imagining his daughter.
00:22:14
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We dig in deep for the emotional output. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to believe it raged out and shot somebody on set. But, uh... Too soon.
00:22:24
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um But, no, the speech he gives him about getting married is classic. It's like, you know, it lets people know someone can stand to look at you. and Let them know your dick still works or whatever. I don't know the whole thing, but it was... I think you got the gist of it.
00:22:41
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Let them know there's lead in the pencil. Yeah. But, yeah, Alec Baldwin, fantastic. I mean, Leo, all of them. I'm an Unabashed Leo fan. I really am. Dude, me too.
00:22:53
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I'll tell you right
Brad Pitt and John Malkovich Film Highlights
00:22:54
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now. I've said this before on the show. When I first saw that kid, and once he didn't get over great, no I thought he was manly retarded. Yeah. Yeah. He he had me convinced. was good actor. Dude, the MRDD program, the champion where the big city c champion where I'm from, MRDD program, top notch. I mean, I had a lot of experience with MRDD kids.
00:23:13
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I'm just seeing them. Dude. Dude. The motherfucker was... Nailed it. I couldn't believe he wasn't. Yeah. When saw something else I'm like, wait a minute. Did they give him some flowers for Algenon shit? Well, actually knew him from growing pains before that.
00:23:28
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And then the... Yeah, he was like, in the last two seasons, he was a... i don't know if he... I can't remember exactly what he was. he was like, maybe they fostered him or something. Oh, he was the... No, not Charlie. He was the...
00:23:42
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I just made that up. don't know the whole story could have Cousin Oliver. Cousin Oliver. yes on The Cousin Oliver Syndrome. we The show's dying. We need a young kid again. Yeah, we need to bring some fresh blood in. So Leo was that kid.
00:23:53
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Kind of made his career. Then he did, like, basketball diaries. That was wild.
00:24:00
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I never saw that movie. Yeah. That came out in middle school. So there was a lot of, like... weird stuff and involved when it came out of that was in high school. i was still there like, just joing off scene and i was like really oh yeah,
00:24:16
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we're trying to watch this. I think we're 52. It's still weird. but I don't know if I want to watch that at all. Right. Malgovich and the mice and men, dude, I'm telling you right now,
00:24:27
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Malkovich in anything. I can watch him read the fucking phone book. That guy is amazing at everything he does. What are you looking for, brother? Just get little stretch. Oh, right on. ah Malkovich in, dude, Burn After Reading.
00:24:41
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Yeah. Brad Pitt and Burn After Reading. Yeah. That was the first role I really loved him in. That was, ooh, we'll see... Snatch for me. Oh, you know what? I forgot about that. He's great in that. You're right. He's great in that. Mr. Mrs. Smith was fantastic there, too. He was actually doing something different than just being pretty.
00:24:58
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Snatch was... I liked him in being John Black. Or just John Black. Meet John Black. i Meet John Black. Joe. joe Meet Joe bla joe Black. Watch him get hit by that fucking train or bus.
00:25:12
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I rewound that 57,000 times. I loved watching him get blasted by that bus. I'm sick legends of the fall of the river that runs through it and I didn't even watch that see I like River once you're Robert Redford I like him as a director he's a great storyteller it's not there are always slow movies but yeah slow burn can be great have you ever seen the movie um the constant gardener yeah most people hate it Oh, no. That's a fucking amazing movie. I'm a fan of that.
00:25:42
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It's a great flick. Zero action almost, but the story is intense and it's deep and is so well acted. who Who, is that Michael Mann as well? Oh, I think it's Michael Mann. That's a great question. Who else did Back to Last of the Mohegans? That is a great question.
00:26:00
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How about his balance, though, in Last of the Mohegans, by the way? just I just want to say that out loud. Never been hotter and she ah Speaking of amazing acting. She has some scenes where the crazy she's screaming at her father Fernando Morellis John LaCarre for these story way off Yeah, the council gardener what a great movie if you like a good good Ripley's game The talented mr. Ripley. That's what I was thinking. i don't know this game I was saying to I did not like that movie personally
00:26:36
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Bad Damage doesn't do for in most roles. But I loved to hate him in thepart The Departed. I loved to hate him in The Departed. The rat, prick. The informant. He's good in that.
00:26:48
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I love him in that. place I just couldn't believe how funny he made being an idiot.
Directors and Filmmaking Techniques
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And I realized, well, I do it all the time. Yeah. yeah that's one That's one of those movies I saw once. That's a series, I think, and I fucking love it.
00:27:03
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Which series? Sicario's. Sicario? Well, there's one film called Sicario. What are they talking about things? He says Sicario. Yeah. there's I saw the series. i don't think I saw the movie. It's Taylor Sheridan before he was doing Yellowstone. He said, no, it's Ripley's Game. I'm not familiar. all with there's There's two. There's Ripley's Game and Townsend. In 2002. it's Malkovich.
00:27:26
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two thousand and two oh it's malkovich
00:27:41
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That's not about the Ripley character, is it? Yeah, it must be. Third book of Patricia A. Smith's Ripley series. Ripley's Ball. Weird.
00:27:54
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So he's the talented Mr. Ripley later in life, apparently. Oh, okay. I'm not up on my Ripleys. Me either. I didn't care for the first one. But again, I think it's just Matt Damon.
00:28:04
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I don't know what it is. I do like it. He's been in good stuff. Like I said, the informant. Loved him. I love his fucking cameos in the goddamn Thor movies. yeah bought zo He's always a goofy redneck.
00:28:16
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Did you ever see, speaking that, Damon, did you ever see the interview he did where he was talking about Jack and the Departed? And there's that one scene in the beginning movie. Benicio Del Toro and Sicario, I thought so.
00:28:29
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Yeah, that's a badass movie. I haven't seen love Yeah, it's great. He did like that and um Hell or High Water Wind River like his first three movies Taylor Sheridan directed. They were all killer.
00:28:43
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But anyway, Matt Damon, he he was I saw him on like a podcast or interview and he was talking about Jack and like what a perfectionist he was that there's like one little scene. It's like three seconds long where him and Mr. French are executing a couple on the beach.
00:29:00
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and he goes And he goes, when he shoots the girl in the back of the head, he's she's like, huh, she felt funny. it And he starts laughing. jack ah Matt Damon told a story that that and it took him like half a day to shoot that scene because Jack kept saying, well, what if I do this?
00:29:14
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What if I say this? And like Scorsese was getting little frustrated. It's like, dude, and it took him like, 30 different takes. And that's how I hear from Scorsese. Finally, he was like, you know, when he said she felt funny that he like, laughed he laughed and that was like a real laugh of his and they cut. He's like, that's the one. It was for like a little, you know, it's a three hour film and it's a two second scene. Yeah. That's weird. but That's funny.
00:29:38
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Uh, another one that was no, well not the actor, but they, uh, director was Kubrick. Yeah. Take after take after take after take. Like the two most takes ever are both Kubrick's, I think. Oh, really? I think so.
00:29:53
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For real films. i think i number I think the number one is that movie The Door or whatever, The the Room. Oh, okay. The real guy had to do that thing a million times. Right. Have you ever seen it? No. I would like to know the the actual record for most takes in one scene. I think it's The Room, but also, but it's I don't think it counts because not studio film.
00:30:12
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It was like an independent movie. Oh, okay. They did a movie about the making of that movie because guy's so weird. He wrote it and he directed It it was like his baby. And it's just a weird, dumb movie that makes no sense whatsoever.
00:30:27
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It's like the idiom doesn't translate. He's foreign. He's foreign. Making an American film in an American city, but the end doesn't transfer and it's just strange It's it's got an odd voiceover. Did you not check it out? room It's a weird fucking movie.
00:30:44
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It's a weird movie. What's your favorite Kubrick film? I really love 2001. Yeah, but the shiny man is so great.
00:30:56
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I Never read the book Well, a few significant books I didn't read. But I liked the movie so much, and it ruined Carrie, not Carrie, ruins Christine for me. And was just like, eh, I'm not going to read any more of them once I started the movie.
00:31:08
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Because Christine, after reading the book, was like, man, that movie's kind of sucked. And I hate to say that, because love John Carpenter. Right. I love John Carpenter. He's probably my favorite horror director. Great soundtrack, too. He definitely is.
00:31:19
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All of them do is have great soundtrack. Yeah, I'm um with you, though. I think it's hard for me to to not say Space Odyssey is number one. It's a great movie, man. So many people don't get the whole story. What's up, man? It kind of set the standard, too. for like the moon landing The moon landing is his favorite Cooper flick. That's a good one, Zambio. It was pretty sweet. I mean, I didn't watch it live. but The book is always better. You're right, man. It is always better. For me, it is. Because I get to watch the movie that I'm making.
00:31:50
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Plus, I mean, that's the original art. That's the way it's meant to be consumed. Yeah. A lot can be said for that. But I like a good adaptation, too, even if it's not true to true true to the source.
00:32:01
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If it's done well. Yeah. An example of not done You can like them separately. That Wheel of Time thing that they did on Amazon, oh my God, it was an absolute trash. It was garbage from start to finish. It was trash, trash, trash.
00:32:13
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But I also love... That actual series is my favorite fantasy series ever. I'm a big fantasy guy, too. I'm not familiar with books. It's a lot to read. Even if you listen to them on books, they're like 27 hours. and They're big fucking books, and there's like 14 of them.
00:32:28
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Worth the ride if you love fantasy. But, yeah, they did an adaptation on Amazon, and his wife was involved, too, like the author's wife. I can't believe
00:32:42
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sellout there's an awful awful awful I think in January I'm doing a fantasy show of I'll remind you all right yeah definitely let me know Wednesdays I can't get away in time it would be outs have the sister here Thursday shoot pull but I can always tell them I'm not playing I play too much every week that sounds good busy guy hmm o All work and no play makes Jack a doll boy.
00:33:07
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So that wasn't in the book. Yeah, I didn't know that. i said I never read The Shining. I've seen so many documentaries on it. Again, big documentary guy. I love the documentary. It's called Room 237, I think. Okay, on The Shining.
00:33:20
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What did you think of? What was the one with the oh was that the movie called? Was it Ewan McGregor? It was basically the boy when he's grown up.
00:33:32
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Oh, Dr. Sleep. Dr. Sleep. Yeah. Did you like I watched that once. I thought it was right. It was neat. Yeah. it was interesting. um I hated what they did to Danny, but it is what it is. That movie was his one and only movie, by the way, the kid that played Danny.
00:33:45
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Never did anything else after that. Yeah. That's right. And if he didn't watch the movie in its in its form until he was like in his 20s. Oh, really? The whole time he was shooting that movie, documentaries on the whole time they were shooting that movie, he never knew it was a horror movie at all. He was never once scared about anything. Oh, really?
00:34:01
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It was just like reacting to what he told him to react. He was like, go like this, be surprised or whatever. They had no idea he was watching blood pouring out of two fucking elevators. Which, by the way, what um one of the most expensive shots in the entire movie, if not the most expensive shot the entire movie, it took an entire year and two months to fucking shoot that thing.
00:34:18
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With the blood? Yep. Kubrick's a weird projectionist too. They did a bunch of fucking dry runs with water and shit before they they didn't want to have to scrub it every time through the dry runs.
00:34:29
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And he didn't like the way it was coming out. and the way i mean, it was weird how he manufactured that scene over the space of over a year. For two seconds, like not even two seconds. Whatever it is, like that five, six seconds of film.
00:34:42
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It's a pretty badass scene. It is amazing. It's a great movie. It is. Now they say that the one with ah the guy from 30-something, the guy from Wings.
Trivia, Sports, and Celebrities
00:34:54
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they did this They did a miniseries movie. Tony Baldwin? No. Sure. I got the name Pete or something, think. He played the twins freak me out. Tropic Thunder is amazing. And yes, every day is a fantasy day for me. I was just talking to somebody about Tropic Thunder last night.
00:35:13
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They could not do that one today. I can't. It's all right. It says, how about Tropic Thunder? love that movie. Absolutely love that movie. So much meta stuff. Dude, Jack Black, I think it's my favorite Jack Black role. I think so.
00:35:28
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Even though... Yeah. As a junkie guy. Yeah.
00:35:34
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Overdose, fucker. Gotcha. that's ah That's another great re-watch. I just really like jelly beans. Yeah. I told you, i before all when everything was just so readily available, I had like a three or four year kick where Anytime was a movie I like was on sale. Yeah, we're 99. So I have a pretty extensive library.
00:35:57
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I was more or less the same way, but with like the actual DVDs and shit. Big DVD, big DVD. five here I have none now. Like three, maybe that I bought from somebody. It's been so long since I actually put a DVD into a player.
00:36:10
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Why am I taking up all this? This was right. yeah So I gave him a friend of mine and actually watches DVDs. That's nice. I've got a PlayStation that is just a streaming device. I haven't played a game in forever.
00:36:21
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Right. Unless it's on my phone.
00:36:25
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Yeah. that's a We keep getting far afield. That's what happens on this show. As I said, we just need a jumping in point. But back to the Departed, right? Right. One of Scorsese's finest. Yeah. I mean, it's it's it's definitely top three Scorsese for sure.
00:36:39
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Which is better, Departed or Goodfellas? For me, i think Departed is a better film. Fuck yeah. Goodfellas is more nostalgic. It's a great movie. and stuff Plus a lot of those Goodfellas stories are from the Youngstown mob, which is kind of cool. It kind of hits home a little bit.
00:36:57
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The Vindicator scene and all that's neat. But but no, Departed is a just a better overall film. right And you're you're a horror guy.
00:37:08
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there oringos Her hottest role as as the therapist. a little part I know. She's pretty hot as a as a Anthony Perkins' mom.
00:37:23
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Bates Hotel. She plays Ma Bates. but that Yes, but I was talking movies. Hmm, I can't even know she's been in offhand. Pretty beautiful, Amiga.
00:37:36
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Is that her name? Yeah. I thought Vera Farmiga was the girl that was sitting in Spaceballs. No. She's Conjuring's, though. What's her name?
00:37:45
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Oh, don't know. She's Farmiga, too, I think. But I don't know what you're talking about. don't know what you're talking about. Where is telling her, hey, I need some fucking Valium.
00:38:00
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Look up Mr. G Lesbian. It's like two minutes. She throws him a little sample packet. Thank you, Mandy. Peter Horton. Oh, okay. From Wings. Here's a who. He's in that Shining movie.
00:38:15
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Well, it's a miniseries. Miniseries, And that's the one that Stephen King approved. He wrote the the teleplay for and everything else. He was very involved. You know, he got kicked off the set. He wasn't allowed to go on the set of The Shining.
00:38:27
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ah cooperber Yeah, I didn't. They really had it out. and he was like fuck that They haven't talked. Well, of course not. He's dead now, but they never talked after that. Not once. and If anyone asks him about what he thinks of it, he just says, refer to other interviews.
00:38:41
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he doesn't even want to talk about that fucking movie.
00:38:45
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But anyway, let me finish that that scene where he's with the the therapist, nice Leo. And she he's like saying, I need some fucking volume or whatever. And she throws him a little sample packet.
00:38:56
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And it's like classic Leo in Scorsese films. He's like, oh, great, two pills. Why don't you just give me a bottle of scotch and a handgun so I can blow my fucking brains out? He like storms out of the office. is like It's like Leo and Scorsese definitely have like a rhythm together. Like Wolf of Wall Street, mean.
00:39:15
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That's another one. I never saw the whole thing. They're poetic with the... They can be crass and poetic with the language. And that's kind what... I wish you'd watch Gangs because it's kind of cool where they're like... There's some of this old-timey stuff. He sees Jen for the first time. He calls her a prim stargazer. He's saying she's attractive.
00:39:35
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They use the word chiseler. There's a whole chiseler scene. I have seen parts of it. I know I have. It just didn't grab me. I couldn't watch it start to finish. I just couldn't do it. It's too long. It is long.
00:39:46
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and I don't know.
00:39:51
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I can't explain exactly why. I just i couldn't find an interest in there. that was That was just it. But I'm saying it's the art. It's subjective. yeah But I've gone back and re-watched, like tried things again after maturing, getting older, whatever.
00:40:06
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And I have liked some things I didn't think I would ever like. So it's going to have to be one do that with. Yeah, give a shot. I find myself sometimes on the flip side of that, not re-watching something I loved from my childhood because I don't want to ruin it.
00:40:24
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I'd rather have the memory of loving it and then so call re-watching it as a doll and being like, wow, this is trash. I was an idiot. when I fucked up and I watched Knight Rider. I could not have done that. never to up Don't watch Knight Rider if you love Knight Rider. It does not age well. It doesn't hold up, would imagine. Even that beautiful Hasselhoff taco meat just can't save it.
00:40:47
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So, quick question. Charlie Sheen, favorite role. Oh, I mean, come on. Rick Vaughn. I mean, a baseball fan. I only asked you because Mandy Phillips said they were watching Major League when she left the house.
00:41:00
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I mean, I'm a baseball. I love baseball. I'm a huge Indians-slash-Guardians fan. Indians fans. They'll never be the Guardians me. Yeah. I mean, I get it.
00:41:11
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I've let go. I call them Guardians. It is what it is. I watch 150 games a year. You hear it so much. It seems silly sometimes. I'm watching every single game.
00:41:24
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It's still the end of me. Win a World Series. You can call them whatever you want. As long as it's Cleveland. Charlie Sheen, though, I would say besides Major League, I mean, he can be super funny.
00:41:44
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Man at Work. Man at Work was great. Fucking amazing movie. That's a movie I'm not watching in a long time that I might have that fear. Nope. It's still fucking great.
00:41:55
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I just watched it a months ago. It's easy to have chemistry with your co-star when you're running. Right. But not just that. Keith David. That was my introduction to Keith David. He's super fun. And then I saw him in They Live. Okay.
00:42:08
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Do you know that the... at you Are you pretty hip with South Park? There's an episode called Cripple Fight. Okay. And Jimmy Vollmer. watched like the first couple seasons. Jimmy Vollmer and Timmy get in a big fight.
00:42:20
Speaker
Okay. It is a shot for shot remake of the fight in Day-Live. Oh, really? It's fucking amazing. That's awesome. I saw that for myself, too. I didn't have to read that somewhere. that that's um I mean, oh my God. I watched the episode and I went back and i was like, i found the fucking scene online of the fight scene. I'm like, it was it. It was it. um I could tell. both Like shot for shot?
00:42:40
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Dude, I'm telling you right now, it's fucking great. um I'm huge fans of them and what they do. research yourself Did you know that once Chuck Norris rubbed two fires together and he made a stick?
00:42:54
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Men at Work is great. It is still great. It will always be great. Dude, that is an awesome movie. Awesome movie. I was going say Platoon as well. that's a tough watch yeah not a not not a great rewatch as far as it's just that in it's real i mean it's realistic and it's like that's what war is like i haven't been there and allegedly and uh tom berenger's in it too so the principal
00:43:25
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tom berenger and uh what else uh jake taylor Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. And and Charlie Sheen's actor links there. i um Yeah, actor links. I had one the other day I meant to throw your way, and i now I don't remember what it was.
00:43:40
Speaker
It was a good one. It was like three really oddball people in one movie. It's the only time they've ever been in a movie together. I cannot fucking like me remember what it was. i no should have wrote down. love it. I love when I find those ones. Those are my favorite. And it usually means no one's going to be right, but sometimes it's just for me.
00:43:56
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Charlie Sheen was in The Three Musketeers, and it was great.
00:44:01
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Three Musketeers? Was he in Charlie? Was Charlie Sheen in Three Musketeers? Generous use of the use of the word great. I remember Young Guns. Yeah, well I remember i would say his brother in Young Guns, Doc or whatever. he was in He was in Three Musketeers.
00:44:18
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I don't remember Charlie Sheen being in that. I think I blocked that one. Good call. Was it the one with Chris... ah The one who had the nipples on his Robin suit.
00:44:32
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Chris McDonald? Yes. yeah That sounds good. That one. not The one fourth Musketeer. Let's write reference John Malkovich and Leonardo DiCaprio again. Not the man in the Iron Mask. That's a great movie. yeah that that was better That's a great movie. There was a good Three Musketeers movie though. and Oliver Platt played Porthos.
00:44:53
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Oliver Platt. What a great actor. He's fantastic. There was a major HBO. To me, he's the best part of the Bayer. haven't watched the new season. I kind of got bored with the Bayer on FX.
00:45:06
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Keep yourself on. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. That was not the good one. He's also in the West Wing, Oliver Platt. Oliver Platt's great. They used to have HBO films made just by HBO. Yeah. The Infiltrator. Did see that?
00:45:19
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No. He's a Jewish reporter. I think he's based out of either New York or Boston. And he infiltrates a white supremacist organization, like neo-Nazis or whatever.
00:45:30
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Again, he's a reporter, and he is Jewish. And it's a true story. I checked this one out. It's really accurate. Okay. Really close to the actual story. And this dude, I mean, he went into some hardcore circles.
00:45:45
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that's I'm impressed. I don't know that. The Infiltrator. HBO films. HBO made some awesome movies. Most of them were like political nature and stuff, like game change and stuff like that. was the one? And the band played on. think that was the one that really got them on the map. They won like Academy Awards for that. Which one was that?
00:46:03
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That was one about the AIDS epidemic. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the band played on. I think that was the first one they did that really got major, major accolades. And then they became a real legit movie house. Yeah, they had some good stuff.
00:46:14
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Charlie Sheenie had among them on the show.
00:46:18
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ah I think we've referenced every Leonardo.
Nostalgia and Movie Appreciation
00:46:24
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I can't believe we've only been doing this for 46 minutes. It feels like we've been doing this for two hours.
00:46:29
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Really? Wow. I'm sorry. No, that's a good thing. I mean, I just feel like we've been generating so much conversation. There's been no dead air and I'm not used to that. Not to say my past co-hosts have been terrible, but some of them have been fucking terrible.
00:46:41
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How do you feel about ah one of the only ones we have reference? Romeo and Juliet. Oh my God. The one with player names. Yeah. No, not a fan. you if you loved it. No, I didn't love it.
00:46:53
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So we go back to nostalgia. yeah again like held the hands with a girl at the theater. Got you. Yeah, so like there's... And Claire Danes, that scene where he first meets her and You're linked in with some real-life memories there. Yeah, it's like it's like kind of like... you know your formative year king or something Your formative years. I think I was in the university. No, that movie is dog piss. I mean, it's not great. The that fact that they're trying to do like a modern film while speaking. i don't think there's anything wrong with doing a modern thing like that, like a mashup.
00:47:24
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If it's done right. Yeah. That movie was the beginning of my long, long dislike for Leguizamo. Yeah, but he's he's tough in that. That's ah that's a brutal.
00:47:35
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He ruined, as far as I'm saying, he ruined Spawn for me. He played the Mal Bolger or whatever. Well, not Mal Bolger, but the fat monkey thing or clown thing. and I'm not familiar with spawn, but I'm familiar with him Michael dry white Michael dry white Well, he's fine. Sometimes it's like the side funny side guy me and my previous co-hosts We had a long-standing agreement with that Jared Leto ruins movies fuck Jared Leto Yeah, okay Legos almost a lot of way the same but he didn't ruin everything like he was really good in the Wong Fu and Jared Leto is also like yeah Maybe this is what you don't like about Daniel the he goes he's a method actor like him too. Yeah, know
00:48:15
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The whole thing he did with the Joker. my ah my My buddy and I were talking about it the other day. Imagine being on Gangs of New York set. Hey, we can you pass the creamer? He's like the butcher still. And you're like, alright.
00:48:28
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It's kind of, I've seen other, this is an original thought, but I've seen other people talk about it. Being a method actor on set, it's kind of almost like a license just be an asshole to everybody. And be like, oh yeah, well I'm i'm doing the character. So, pass the creamer. Fred Nelson almost wasn't in uh, the breakfast club.
00:48:48
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Judd Nelson. What is, was he method acting? He method acting and being a dick to everybody, including the director. and you know that director. You're method acting in a John Hughes team comedy? Yes, yes, yes.
00:49:00
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And he was just, ah he was that guy all the time on set and just fucking dicked everybody. Giving people wedgies and stuff? Just being a dick. And yeah, John Hughes had to talk to him like, look, dude, you are about out of here.
00:49:12
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If you want to get paid, shut the fuck up. So maybe that's why he's only been in that movie. Well, he was in New Jack City. Oh, yeah. Oscar Wayne film.
00:49:25
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And um I can't remember anything else. Was he even in bad sitcoms? I don't even know. I don't think so. where old cop movie guys go to die, bad sitcoms. Yeah.
00:49:37
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sort of the the ice teas of the world and NCIS John Mullaney's bit about ice tea on that's the ice so that's that you know ladies so funny I love them a buddy just saw him I've never seen him live but I don't I don't tend to go see comedians if they're not in the club like if you've made it to theaters and arenas and I've missed you I don't think not No, not an arena. You end up watching it on a big screen. I feel like i saw Steven Lee twice in theaters. Yeah, theaters are great. If it's a thousand or two thousand theaters. But yeah, I mean, if it's a giant place. Yeah, rock and mortgage, field house or whatever. ranks
00:50:19
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like Why spend $200 to watch it on TV? Right, right. Just wait until it comes out on greg's on Prime or Netflix whatever. There's that energy exchange. It's always better in the live live.
00:50:30
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Yeah, that's why I love the club. Remember how long Val Cameron thought he was Jim Morrison? I don't. But I do know that, yeah, it was ah the beginning of a tough road for him. who's i think some of these actors actually just blame their own bad behavior on method acting being stuck in character.
00:50:46
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I truly do. Yeah. Like Mulder, right? He starts doing all these fuck shows. Next thing know, he's addicted to sex because of the roles. Oh, David Duchovny. Yeah. Californication. That's why said Mulder. Yeah. I couldn't think his name. Yeah.
00:51:02
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Oh, really? He said he was addicted to sex because of that role? Yeah, him and his wife, she kept catching him cheat on him and shit. Well, what it could be. That was this whole thing. remember that role that brought us all that those millions of dollars? That's the problem. It ruined my life. on so yeah why would roles Why would successful men try to have sex with women other than their wives? It just doesn't make sense.
00:51:24
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I can't wrap my head around it. That's a South Park reference. Oh, you're you're not hip to the newest season. I mean, I should be. I've actually heard this new season. They did a whole episode on sex sex edition.
00:51:37
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Oh, okay. And the thing was, why are all these successful men trying to go out and have sex with other women other than their wives? It just makes no sense to me. All their wives kind of standing behind them, eyeballing them. Yeah. CLA React.
00:51:48
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I don't care what you say about South Park and how crass it is or whatever. It's some of the best fucking social commentary you'll ever catch about the United States of America. If you pay attention to it and really watch it, or listen to it, there's excellent social commentary. It was the the episode they did about this administration.
00:52:06
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i mean I haven't watched any of those. so okay I haven't either. All I know i've been hearing all i know is really making some waves they they they make an episode to try to get a reaction and then the administration comments on it and reacts to it.
00:52:19
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Then it becomes a national news story. You're doing exactly what you will they want you to do. i mean why super pretend no such she Someone asks you about and you're like, oh yeah, we didn't say that. We don't have time to watch it. We're busy here.
00:52:32
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We're busy making a world decisions. right i saw it and i didn't like it one bit they're not funny at all yeah man that's the guy's a clown am not one of that though yeah definitely not definitely not good call but you know we can comment on
00:52:51
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but yeah we can comment on More movies. The Departed. Yeah, we've only touched the tip of that iceberg. I mean, dude, so much excellence in that movie.
00:53:04
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Yeah. I didn't even catch it. Or at least I don't remember catching it. It's been a while since I've seen it. I was watching a recap. I watch a lot of heavy spoilers. Have watched heavy spoilers? No. It's a great YouTube channel. Check them out, gang. If you love movies, heavy spoilers show.
00:53:17
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Very cool. Kerry McCracken. Well, thanks, Kerry. I'm on high school Kerry. You guys have a great conversation. I'm glad you think so. I'm just here goofing off having fun. Same.
00:53:28
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Only wish I was getting paid for it. yeah More than that eight cents I made on TikTok last week. Oh, that envelope you gave me that wasn't cash in there? No, it something. Who's better than cash? coup Coupons of dollar general.
00:53:39
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You wish. coupon Yeah, I wish. Coupons of free back rubs. um God damn, I lost track of what I was thinking. You're about to comment on The Departed. The Departed...
00:53:54
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love that in this this little little risque my boy Chuck got shot out his favorite part of movies and I like to talk about gangs kills like there's obviously tons of commentary about race in all of Scorsese's historical films or dramas like that he just he loves it they set the tone with
00:54:16
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Jack's character does like the opening oh narration and you're like three seconds and he's like and bomb this and he's like he's like that's what I got and that's my big problem with the with the blacks and he's like it and you're just like alright this is that type of this is that's gonna be that type of movie um but yeah in Boston so not to get you know I can i Can I give myself a shot out here? Absolutely. i Definitely plug yourself. i went to the not wrong that's sound wrong That's only on Tuesdays. I have a bullshit liberal arts degree and two of the A's, two of the few A's I got were in hip-hop culture and then social deconstruction of modern-day cinema.
00:55:00
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oh Yeah, my my dad was real proud of me. He's like, you're we're spending all this money on school for you listen to rap and watch movies. How high are you getting? That is outstanding.
00:55:12
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They're elective sociology courses. I'm sure they're elective. there's All the best courses are. The ones you have to take are the lame ones. And the thing is, how much do you really do use like geometry and shit where you need to actually hypotenuse and leg and all that crap?
00:55:26
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ah You just do it with your brain. but Bing. Yeah, but a ball the hole. This isn't so much entertaining, more of an observation. I love that um both of Gangs New York and Departed, they both have heavy themes about racism in northern big cities. What do you think about racism in America and history? It's like you just immediately think. Boston is still most racist city. Yeah, but your first thought is Dixieland down south. But, yeah, Boston especially. Ask any sports player who played in any arena ever in Boston. Yeah, exactly. Any not-white sports player ever. Yeah, exactly.
00:56:04
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Any arena in Boston. It doesn't matter. Dude, that's the worst place to be if you are not a honky. yeah the Best movie ever. i don't know about that, but it was great before they took all the guns out and replaced them with walkie-tookies.
00:56:19
Speaker
You don't know what I'm talking about? Which one? Carrie McCracken says, she loves the show. I'm waiting to be on. e t is the best movie ever. You know what i'm talking about now. E.T.? Yes. Are you talking about Stranger Things?
00:56:32
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I'm talking about E.T., The extraterrestrial. Yes. Okay. Another movie haven't seen since i was nine. Okay. Good. Don't do it. It'll ruin it forever. What'd they do? So you know how Lucas decided he was going to go back and retouch the original trilogy and put things in there that couldn't afford to do before? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it kind of fucked up some of the scenes and made him irritably weird. Yeah.
00:56:55
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So Spielberg decided in his later life, all those guns are a negative image. So all the agents chasing the kids through the woods, instead of having guns in their hand, they have digitally replaced them with walkie talkies.
00:57:11
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Because it's not a good look that the government's chasing down a bunch of 11-year-olds. It's kind of a good point. Yeah, it's good point. But at the same time, they're also painting the be the bad guys as the government. Let things be where they were. dude You know what I mean? Times change. yes Societal mores change. But at the same time, that is a glimpse into the past.
00:57:34
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To gloss it over makes no sense. learn If you don't know your history, you repeat it. amen brother like they want to cancel movies like Gone with the Wind and all this stuff it's like okay or it's an example of the progress we've made yeah you know it's like you want to gloss over you know culture art history yeah times are different I mean think about the new recut of Roots there's a new recut I'm just saying yeah imagine it yeah to gloss it all the way yeah exactly like your name's what next scene
00:58:10
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Oh, I wonder what happened. Why is he bleeding? and yeah They had cut all that out. yeah know Censored. Can't do that. Yeah, it went until they remake Blazing Saddles. Oh, dude. it Tropic Thunder, same thing. You'll never see that again.
00:58:23
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And I'm not saying that it is it was culturally amazing, but that was a great fucking movie. It wasn't done in any kind of hate. It was just a role about a dude who method acts the fuck out of his shit. right My favorite part of Tropic Thunder, ain't gonna lie, is the beginning where they're doing the fake trailers. yeah Dude.
00:58:43
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Him and Tobey Maguire. MTV's best kiss winner, Tobey Maguire. Yeah.
00:58:52
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That is a great goddamn movie. Hey, Jen, what's up? maybe you like tom cruise My sister Jennifer in the Great White North. What's happening up in Vermont, girl? Good to see you, man. Thanks for popping through. I love Vermont. Me too. hang out I went there a few days before Christmas, and it was like landing in Winter Wonderland. It's exactly what imagined when think it a pristine winter.
00:59:12
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They just had like three feet dropped on them, and it was white. Beautiful, white, pristine snow. was so fucking hot.
00:59:21
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that was awesome I've only been there once, but I loved it. I went to Burlington, and then I hiked the Green Mountains, and I was like, what It was like an awesome little four-day trip. I landed in Burlington, and i just hung out with ah her and her husband and her family. it was great.
00:59:33
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had a lot of fun. Burlington's a cool little city. Yeah. Beautiful. Lake Champlain. Just kind of like a big, small town. Yeah. i mean, there was no scrapers or anything like that, which was cool. Yeah.
00:59:45
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I don't like big cities. Burlington's like the perfect size. But they're neater to leave. queen It was clean. like When I was there, it was like in September. They had a farmer's market arts and crap festival going on. Live music outside. Green is doing things up there. Yeah.
01:00:05
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Had snow two days ago. Still green. Well, good for you. And I don't want to hear that four-letter word again on my show, lady. we don't We don't say that word down here in Ojai. I don't want that crap on my ground.
01:00:18
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but Thanks for popping in. Appreciate you. We're talking about Scorsese, coffee, doors, you know. Yeah. No big whoop.
01:00:28
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There's one, right? People say he's so hard to work with. Can you believe that? Scorsese? and Mike Myers. Oh. Not the Shatner wannabe Mike Myers. Shrek.
01:00:40
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Yeah, Shrek Mike Myers. They say he's hard to work with. Nobody wants to work with him, and that's why he's been kind of just on Hollywood. He's not made angry. because nobody wants to yeah but when he plays all the roles and really need anybody else yeah just a couple of monkeys to put on the makeup and then about the monkeys to put CGI in afterwards under eight underrated Mike Myers movie so I married an axe love them I love that movie and my friends saw in theaters and we were like nine or ten or what it's 91 really 10 I oh it was a riot I know I lost all I did it it's that orange on the tooth it does play the Scottish like a lot of joy what's the song he was singing and basically rolls or something like that oh what's his name I can't believe her oh midnight run has a cameo in it oh he died recently Robert Grodin yes Charles Charles father you know it's one of my favorite things
01:01:48
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look all right we're just gonna just throw movies out at you now how about um old school old school damn what's the best scene in the movie for you Wow best scene in the movie for me it's got to be that strong open oh with the And I'm going from the opening all the way to like the marriage.
01:02:15
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mean, that's a long. They're at the wedding and they're doing like Tupper bands. next to bomb Next thing you know, fuck you got nude people coming out of your basket. It's like some kind of goddamn naked magic show. oh Oh, yeah. No, that's the orgy scene. Yeah.
01:02:28
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I'm here for the gang bang. Todd Phillips. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Todd Phillips. That was an excellent little cameo. Awesome. I'm here for the gang bang. He's a good and filmmaker. He did that and the Joker. Pretty good. No. Yeah. it was Middle schoolers do not know Mike Myers.
01:02:42
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I don't know if you mean the actor or ten tin tin ten tin and ten ten tent and ten ten and ten ten and tint tin tin tin du and who wrote that music by the way John very good many of his movies he broke the right thing yeah he was he was an accomplished and with his brother him and his brother did a lot of movies there have still they do a van gonna rock man that's awesome the movie for mouth in the mouth of madness fuck killer like Really? In the Mouth of Madness? In the Mouth of Madness. Sounds like a porn. think it's my favorite John Garberto movie. If it's not that one, it's got to be Trouble in Little China out with a thing.
01:03:22
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God, the thing is such a great, great fucking movie. Thing's good. what When did that come out? I'm not even familiar. In the Mouth of Madness. It's 92, 93. Sam Neill. I do love Sam Neill.
01:03:34
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He's great in this movie. Dinky Blinders. Jurassic Park. The dude who was in Das Boot. Okay. ah and Also the leader of the dirty Germans in beer fest.
01:03:45
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That's right now like their grandfather whatever your business better than actor Yeah, we were just talking about these from what I've ever heard. don't know him personally I mean, I do know him as Mikey We do know each other like that, but don't know him that well just as Mikey and yeah, I hear he's a real dick Which is it? Yeah, I know people seem like they do so fun to be around yeah, and they find out there are hours day. Yeah, exactly Seems like such a wacky Goonie guy.
01:04:13
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Yeah. I mean, he was a big part of my formative years. Right, dude. Waynesville was a great, fun movie. But also, like, same. I was right there in that, like, high school, like, pocket.
01:04:25
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Yeah. Plus, was the best goddamn Saturday Night Live cast ever at that point. Yeah. They were so strong. Yeah, 93, 94. And then the 95 season happened. Everybody gets fired.
01:04:35
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And they started, they almost rebuilt the entire thing from scratch. Yeah. Everybody kept leaving to go do their movies. Will Ferrell came in after that roughly not long after that probably am a chariotarian M was sharing a six or seven you're on a gas tire what an underrated cast member she was outstanding in so many things how about her as the wife in Talladega nights oh yeah incredible that's a movie I was saying that someone told me in trivia that's what they dressed up
01:05:06
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more and rally fan so like yeah i agree Molly Shannon is so fucking great. know, she's from Ohio. She's from being here and between here and Cleveland. I want to say it's like the Twinsburg area maybe.
01:05:20
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Somewhere around there. Did you watch that movie on Netflix about the first night of SNL? Yes. they won't think Didn't hate it. neither I was kind of like, alright.
01:05:34
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I can imagine what it was like. It was a cool idea for a movie to basically make it in real time. I thought that was cool. Chevy Chase has such a notorious reputation for being a dick there. Him and Bill Murray and their famous feud.
01:05:48
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and Punch in the backfield. I mean, i've I've read that a lot of that stuff is bullshit. That's not really how it went down. Love you too, sis. Thanks for popping through. Appreciate you. Give us a share, a like, and a follow. That would be grand.
01:06:07
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um like a lot of movies based on like real events. of the ones I hated and there's nobody out there who should love this movie. It's called Pearl Harbor. Yeah. Pearl Harbor sucks almost as much as I love my wife.
01:06:20
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Yeah, that was a bag of diarrhea. Why did they put a love story in that movie? don't know. And it was boring. weird rubb fi range is long. It was poorly acted. Even the effects were
Ben Affleck and Directorial Skills
01:06:32
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like kind of hostile. Stay behind the camera, not in front of it. It made a ton of Yeah, I was terrible oh no nostalgia.
01:06:40
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Yeah, well, let's see what it was like the most dirty bastard came after his knee. Ben Affleck is a pretty decent director. Oh, wait, he did weird. was just talking about my friend. Did he do The Town? He directed The Town. He sure it did. Speaking of the part, it's like a parted sequel, basically. is bo Not even Stallone could ruin that movie. Yeah, that that was what meant for me. The Town was awesome.
01:07:01
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He couldn't even ruin it. I mean, that was a great fucking movie, though. Gone Girl. Great movie. Ben Affleck. Yeah, I knew he did that one. his he draw there gone His brother acts around him. yeah case Is that the one it was?
01:07:15
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No, I'm saying he didn't do Gone Baby Gone. That was somebody else. Another Boston. you know Similar vibe. He's a good director, man. where He makes solid movies. He knows story structure.
01:07:27
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yeah For sure. He's been in some strange roles, though. I'll tell you what. like just being man Being able to make fun of himself and shit. He's an interesting person.
01:07:39
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What do you think of those accountant movies? I think he directed Jersey Girl, too.
01:07:45
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That athlete? Not Garden State, but Jersey Girl. Ah. Came in the same, yeah. You might be right. He might not have directed. He was in J-Lo.
01:07:55
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That's kind J-Lo. No, J-Lo, that was not J-Lo. That was... ah Yeah, I thought so. Director, Kevin Smith. It was Kevin Smith. Okay, yeah. I thought so. it was one of those Chainsaw and Bobs.
01:08:08
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yes They always direct those. Dogma. I was just talking about Dogma yesterday.
01:08:15
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so it was good I liked the first half. The second half just got weird. It was a totally different feel. It was like two different movies. It just got so fucking weird. Red State did the same thing, but it was in a great way.
01:08:28
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yeah It was like that turn felt natural. That's John Goodman, Red State. don't think John Goodman was in that. It was ah Michael... ah Michael Wincott.
01:08:41
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I think Michael Wincott. Is that when there's like a visit director hostage situation type deal? Oh, recently. see movies. They came out recently. This is from 2011. Directed by Kevin Smith.
01:08:59
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Michael. I mean, you have similar.
01:09:05
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Michael Parks. ah Michael Parks. He plays like this kind of colleague. It was a sort of Koreshian. yeah that's all Yeah, it was like an FBI standoff. Yeah, I've seen i've seen it. It was one of the movies. You watch a movie and then 10 years later, what what was it about? Well, that particular one, i felt it just stuck with me first for whatever reason. And it looks like Goodman was in it He played the head FBI guy.
01:09:27
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I just didn't remember him. That seems like a trivia. You probably get this a lot. That's why people tend to hate us, at least during the show. It's because it's like, oh, yeah, I saw that movie 15 years ago. I don't remember what the fuck it's called. and it drives them insane as they try to think of it.
01:09:43
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And they know the entire plot. Well, here's the thing about trivia. And got to remind people this. When you know the answers, it's easy. Yeah. It's only tough when you don't know the answers. But the most annoying thing i find is not when people are mad because they don't know something.
01:09:56
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It's when someone comes up and it's like, oh, that's so easy. And they roll their eyes. You're mad because you got it right? Half the teams have no idea. Just take your win. I've never seen Tulsa King.
01:10:08
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Me either. I'm not a fan of Sylvester Stallone as a person, so I don't want to watch anything he's in just in case like my clicking on it gives him a dollar or even a penny. No, he lost. the Well, he paid out. He didn't lose the suit. didn't go to court.
01:10:22
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He had a bunch of ah certain servants. Yeah, the way he treated them, they were servants, right? They were paid servants, and they weren't allowed to look at this him or his family in their eyes.
01:10:34
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that He downcastized at all times and shit. And it's dehumanizing. And it's shitty. And it's awful way to treat people.
Celebrity Controversies and Ethics in Viewing
01:10:42
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They all quit on the same day and filed fucking lawsuit against his ass.
01:10:46
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And he paid them out instead taking it court. But I thought, man, what a scumbag. Where did you come from, dude? I don't i don't know anything about this. Yeah, that's true story. Super creepy. Right.
01:10:59
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That's rocky, man. You know his upbringing. him and his mom, she's out slutting it up and he's just out being a dick and being stupid. Not a very bright guy in school, but I mean, he was the high school hair. He was a jackass like I was.
01:11:11
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Not dumb, just not applied. He wrote Rocky, man. Yeah. And directed it. And refused to take, like, the studios won't give him, like, 100 grand, and he was living out of his car. And he was like, no, I'll make it myself. I know the value of this.
01:11:26
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So he's smart enough to to to know what he had. Yeah, but he also wasn't smart enough. Sometimes moving money changes. wasn't just smart enough to own his own rights, though. Yeah. So once they dropped him and started with the Creed stuff, though it was his character, had no rights, yeah he made no money. Well, sure, but still. Yeah.
01:11:44
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Maybe we should have took that money. should have.
01:11:48
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But people that do shit like that, like Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks was a frequent flyer on FCN Airlines. I don't fucking do anything that has Tom Hanks in it now. Even old stuff that i love. Like Forrest Gump, I'd love to watch that.
01:12:00
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well Unless someone has it on VHS or DVD. You can't separate the from the person. So you won't listen to Michael Jackson. Here's why. Here's why. But look, if it comes across the radio, that's one thing.
01:12:11
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If I click on it, I don't want to support that. i'm voting with my dollar does that make any sense yeah i'm not saying i'm right that's the power of the consumer i'm not saying i'm correct i'm just saying that's how i that's how i work with my life if i think you're a dirty dirty bird in real life i don't want to do anything that's going help you like i wouldn't click on uh yeah you're you you have way more principles i just i wouldn't click on that 70 show because i don't know if hide gets residuals off that shit yeah I'm not giving him a fucking penny. Of course, he's in prison for, what, 30 fucking years? Yeah.
01:12:46
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But he'll get out early. He's in that special, you know, white people that but have a lot of money. Yeah, a lot of money and really good attorneys. yeah he'll be um He'll be out in no time. No, I applaud your standards and your principles.
01:12:58
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ah Just to me, I'm like, hey, man, I have a finite amount of free time. If Forrest Gump is going to turn my day around, then don't care. Again, like, if I'm on...
01:13:10
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I don't have television either. Everything I do is streaming. So I guess it's not a good, if I'm at someone's house and it's on, I'm not going to not watch it. Yeah. I didn't click on that shit. I'm not the reason that's i on. Right.
01:13:21
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That's different. So it's not that principle. This is on in your house. I'm leaving. i Don't you know? No, I'm not that party guest. I could never fully ban Tom Hanks just because of Band of Brothers. I mean, he was an executive producer. service Yeah, I know. It was a great series. And i i that's like a once a year rewatch for me.
01:13:45
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That sucks. Landmine is pretty good, but I'm afraid of here we will say. i don't know what Landmine is. Landmined. i don't know what that is. you Are you from familiar? ah The movie Landmine? Landmined.
01:13:57
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I'll bet you were supposed to say mine. Carrie's like me. she came from champion. We're not very bright. I'm kidding, Carrie. You're a wonderful, bright person.
01:14:11
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ah Man, we jumped on and we've just been all over the
Trivia Hosting and Experiences
01:14:18
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map. Yeah, we're everywhere. but that's easy to do yeah so uh where do you do trivia let's uh let's get just some information out there uh so it's wise ass trivia leon's at uh on wednesday nights at 8 p.m in howland i'm also on thursdays i'm at barrel 33 in howland and that's at 6 30. that's a cool place yeah yeah we've been that we've had some real a lot of interest there we've been there about a year and some change good crowds there we could we could use some more people at leon so yeah Wednesday yeah come on out second show on Wednesdays it starts at 7 ish we usually you get done to like 8 39 this is your hump day haha yeah okay like so I can't say that was that yeah I do true also on Tuesday's true to well you know to see me there
01:15:08
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It's hard for me to go out on a Tuesday and then post Wednesday, Thursday, but I will make an exception for you. Well, actually starts earlier. It says six on the flyer. Oh, that's to get people there at 630. Okay. We started at 630. I had my truck loaded. We were home and in the house before 930. Okay. That's nice. It moves quick. I'm back to five rounds there.
01:15:29
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All right. So like a fledgling thing. Still got the music round. Still got the who dis. Last night or last this past Tuesday, I did a comedy movie posters. I love the movie posters. I know, those are fun. They were all comedy movies, I think. Do you know the comedian Joe DeRosa?
01:15:45
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Yes. So when I was in New York City, i went he has a sandwich shop, like a bar, that sells hoagies and selling hole-in-the-wall bar in the village. And I got a whole new respect for because I went in there.
01:15:58
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His wallet is nothing. The walls are nothing but 70s and eighty s old school movie posters. Oh, shit. It's pretty sweet. And then the bar is all like old school 80s and 90s hip hop people.
01:16:08
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But I was like, oh, this is cool. And I was trying to find ones I hadn't used in trivia. What's up, Sid? Talking about movies again. It's Friday night. We've been talking to the friggin' sun, all sorts of actors.
01:16:21
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Carrie McCracken, it's a series on what? One last thing to know. Where do you find that series called Landmined? I'll try to check it out see what I think of it.
01:16:32
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Unless it's got Spallone in it or somebody else I just don't want to support because they're bad people. Man. Thanks for Papa Tuesday. You can't watch anything bad people in it.
01:16:42
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Well, listen, dude. i if Once I know about it, I know. We talked about The Departed tonight. still so much to talk about with that movie but uh last of the mohicans yes if you've seen last the mohicans chime in on this some of the best cinematography of all time gorgeous gorgeous just it was a it was a peter jackson movie before the yeah it's it's all in the adirondack mountains i believe is where they shot that in upstate new york shot they didn't shoot in the blue ridge
01:17:15
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No, but that's but supposed to be where it's at, right I believe. Maybe was Blue Ridge. Yeah, Kentucky. They're in upstate New York, but they shot it in maybe the Blue Ridge mound. I don't know. Last of the Loeacan should have been Blue Ridge. Talking about Kentucky. Well, that could be wrong, too. Maybe it have been Tennessee. Just the landscape is one of the better characters. Oh, absolutely. And the soundtrack.
01:17:36
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So you pair that in soundtrack with them walking through the you know the wilderness during the French and Indian awards. The introduction of Magua? Yeah. The actor who played Magua who started to be showing up in everything as the bad guy fucking Native? Yeah.
01:17:50
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He was the villain. He was the villain Native American in every movie in the 90s. He never smiles. I've never seen him smile once. on Paramount with Billy Bob Thornton. I have a hard time supporting him because he was married to a lady who French kissed her brother. oh and yeah I know what she's talking about. I'll check it out. I like the same person that threw out Tulsa King.
01:18:11
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Oh, okay. They're in on the Paramount. I got Taylor. Taylor Sheridan stuff. we brought him up earlier
TV Series and Viewing Preferences
01:18:16
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Ozarks. Did you like that? Yeah, I liked Ozarks. Oh, Ozark. Ozark. or Ozark.
01:18:21
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Yeah. I liked it to the last season. when he got to yeah yeah it went the way of man I'll tell you right now I love for for a series that started so strong breaking bad really jump shark early yeah so many I think there's so many problems I have with that show I have like um it's hard for me to I don't argue with people a lot of people throw it out was like the best show ever Let's not go that far. It's good. but that's why One of the best opening scenes of a series I've ever seen in my life. I was hooked in seconds. That's why I love the value of a limited or mini-series.
01:19:00
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like you have your best and Give me your best you know eight episodes and then get that talk out. yeah like Tell me a complete compact story. Don't ruin it. exactly and Speaking of which, I think we're talking about Jason Bateman. What was the carry on The Black Rabbit.
01:19:17
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black rabbit There's a new mini next Netflix miniseries. Him and Jude Law. Yeah, dude, it's great. yeah out and buck and he most Much like Ozark, he directed a lot of episodes and was heavily involved in production. oh Awesome miniseries. Laura Linney directed couple too. Yeah, I saw that. She's not even in it. right but yeah Thank God she would have ruined it yeah great Yeah, great miniseries. i love I love the eight episodes. We're let go It has a definitive story and I'm with you on that. Did you do task on HBO?
01:19:49
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This new and just ended, but it was a mini series with Mark Ruffalo. No, I haven't seen it. Also, I might've been waiting on it to finish. I don't, I like to binge him. Yeah. I gotta wait for week to week to week. I'll forget what happened.
01:20:01
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Week to week is we we've been, we've been trained to binge over the last 15 years. So now all these companies are going back to the week to week and any start feeling like right. Right. Getting more episodes, man. Exactly.
01:20:14
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I have a movie review for anyone that wants to watch an older movie. What's your movie, boss? Throw it out there. Don't give us a review. Just give us the title.
01:20:23
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And then maybe we'll ask you for a brief synopsis.
01:20:29
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To read your phone can't link in, I'd have you on to guitar about it for a minute. ah Chud. I love that, dude. That's classic. You ever saw a Chud?
01:20:40
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Chud? No. What? but not familiar that's like saying you haven't seen with the wind I have not seen down with the wind maybe while i was like eight years older ah i like so yeah i had to watch it and in literature class yeah or when you're you know you're in the eighty s and you have like nine channels and you're like watch a lot over least sit just where long shu was one of the first awesome bee movies It almost felt like a made-for-TV movie.
01:21:09
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I'm pretty sure I feel like that because I saw it on TV. Is that Chud? Is it an acronym? Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers. Oh, okay. All right. I thought I saw some periods in there.
01:21:20
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Yeah, Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers, Chuds. They made Chud, and there was Chud 2, and I think there might have been a Chud 3. They were amazingly bad movies, like trauma bad. Like Tremors?
01:21:32
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Yeah, kind of. But it was, I don't know, it was doing all that awesomely bad. Was that 60s, 70s? Late 70s, I want to say, Sig? Sound about right? Oh, shit, i was probably 6 or 7 when I saw it.
01:21:46
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So, yeah. Late 70s. Yeah, man, it was a B-movie. In the height of B-movies. Yeah, 70s was the B-movie decade.
01:21:59
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Exploitation films. They still have those. Yeah. They're called anything Disney.
01:22:08
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Hey, where's my name? I've got to have another drink. She's the only one who knows how to make them.
Drinks, Nostalgia, and Cultural Appreciation
01:22:15
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Suze, if you're watching, Uncle Daddy's dry.
01:22:20
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Make me one of those delicious caramel drinks. They're called caramel apples. It's caramel vodka with caramel sauce. Sometimes she puts a little apple garnish on there.
01:22:33
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She knows all I'm going to do scrape shit off immediately and bite it down then chug it.
01:22:39
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Candles, you want me wrong? Yeah, they were terrible movies. They were so awfully bad. i would be into that. I'm not a beer drinker, but I love cider. Yeah, I don't do beer anymore. I eat an apple every day. ah go, I get all my medical advice from the 1940s. Good call. so They wanted to cure things back then. Yeah.
01:22:55
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yeah I eat an apple every day. I just love apples. and maybe not I don't know ten years ago I just ditched beer altogether percent good call top ciders tough when it's 95 degrees in the end of the world do like a high noon or something sure sure but rare of a singing like for me beers just a hang a way that but yeah because I don't drink a couple of years I'm drinking them yeah I'd rather just drink something like oh no man picklebacks are fun they are and that pickle juice has got the electrolytes in it it's like hangover cure with the hangover juice it's amazing it counteracts each other my my niece just turned 21 I drink upstead good call on trackable pretty cool I've done more picklebacks with her than you
01:23:43
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but she's a she's pickleback girl i've done more picklebacks with her than they are They are delicious. Were you pounding picklebackers at the end of the wedding? Oh, I would imagine. Dude, I'm telling you right now, I blacked out.
01:23:57
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Yeah. I remember leaving and stuff, but a big chunk of the night after that, she disappeared. Yeah, so that was... We got after it. That was a fun time. You had a great time. People say don't have fun at your own wedding. Yeah, and so I can tell that was not true. Well, you know me. If it's not fun, I'm not doing it right. Right.
01:24:16
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So... Yeah, he says I drink and upset untrackable. I watched a lot of our shows ah
01:24:27
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Another great movie for cinematography besides Peter Jackson and all that stuff those were fucking phenomenal Say what you want Dude was my car no, okay.
01:24:43
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I was thinking uh Deliverance oh yeah deliverance great film oh that's my bad I thought I was a booty call it's after 10. it's not after 10. it miles be 2 in the morning for me right now this past my Friday bedtime but no deliverance is one of those movies I watched maybe three or four years ago for the first time oh really yeah I
01:25:14
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Every so often I force myself to watch because always talk shit, you know, not to keep bringing up trivia. Another thing I hate 25 year old be like, Oh, it came out before I was born. It's like, yeah, like no art or culture existed before you blessed the earth with your presence.
01:25:31
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You're an insignificant speck. How about you watch an old film? So I try to like follow my own. Watch better film. Yeah. Like my own life advice and be like, hey, watch something from the 70s or 60s you've never seen before. It's like the stuff that you see today, but for the first time, because it was better then. Yeah, exactly.
01:25:47
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There's no such thing as an original story anymore, as they say. Every story's already been written. But there's a way you can tell it. Like Clint Tarantino, right? He changed fucking film yeah in a way. He did.
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Like he just turned the fucking formula on its head, didn't play by the rules, and it was fucking
Tarantino's Influence and Underrated Films
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great. He makes great movies. Yeah. They're original, and but they're also throwbacks. Absolutely. Because he grew up.
01:26:11
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He's found a way to really. he grew up just, you know. in a movie theater basically watching hey Sean hope you're healing well brother thanks for popping in sorry didn't move to cut you off I've seen him in interviews and stuff like about like that's all I did is go to the theater who's the video store manager when he wrote that now true romance yeah I love true he's like me watching his movies like crap fucking awesome is Gary Oldman dude
01:26:45
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To the range of him, him to be that character in Winston Churchill. In True Romance. He's like the wild, like fucking God of Guerrilla and shit. Yeah, it's good. Unbelievable that that's him.
01:26:57
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And then what's the next movie you remember, man? Fucking Renault, The Professional. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally different. Totally. Totally awful. Yeah. He was an amazing villain. Yeah. Air Force One. He was great in everything. We're not going to talk about air Force One.
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but their beef with Harrison Ford now ah dude that's a terrible oh not like that one and executive decision ah that so okay I differ between what is good at cinema and then also on watch what's a fun like guilty pleasure hey I'm making popcorn I don't really need to pay attention to it it's I'll give you that entertaining but if I'm going there I'm gonna I'm gonna pick fucking Independence Day 10 times yeah oh yeah that's over that or executive decision with Kurt Russell yeah terrible fucking movie terrible yeah they saw so for Mansfield prison here in Ohio yeah features in Air Force One the general he demands gets released from the Russian prison oh that's out the front door and down the main walk of the Mansfield prison where the reform tour was oh shit yeah that's another one there's like three or four major movies that have it except it's just not one of them of course you know the one the big one so Josh Hank there's like two other major releases
01:28:11
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But it's not a big part of the film or anything. Yeah, i don't remember that in Air Force One, but it's all over the thing. I've i've done it a couple the times. Yeah, Sean Allen, thanks for popping in, man. Talking about movies, brother. Talking about movies. Talking about actors.
01:28:25
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Talking about all stuff flicks. um Guilty pleasure movies. Like, I would not want to watch. Starship Troopers for instance. Yeah.
01:28:38
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Other than the fact that I've got nothing better to do. It happens to be on. I haven't seen that forever. Boom. Totally mindless. Totally fun. Yeah. It's a fun watch. That is underrated actually.
01:28:49
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Dude. Social Pomerangian Night movie. Yeah. that's Serious. The way they did the fake news stuff, I mean, was spot. Like it was the 40s newsreels. Not even just that, but I mean, it was propaganda at its finest, but just the way it mirrored like what we do in our fucking fast consumption society, yeah the news cycle and everything. It was just so poignant.
01:29:10
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And it spoke to our time as well. it's like, huh, we're already living in the future. We watch four channels at once already. Right. Yeah. Denise Richards, too. oh my god you is richard cheny she had a few years there yeah Wild Things? can me I'll tell you right now The one I liked was the one that liked Rigo.
01:29:29
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The wild one. The one with the red hair and the curls. In Wild Things? No. In Starship Shook. I lost you completely.
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Can't think of her name. Man, she looks good in that movie and she is super good. I'm person Red Heads. That's why I'm here to go. Kind partial pattern with the blue.
01:29:54
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Sorry, that's a Snatch reference. you brought I brought it up earlier. and yeah i did the Snatch was... Degs. I had eggs yeahs got degs. Dogs. Yeah, I like dogs. I like caravans more.
01:30:07
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um no that When I was junior college, we we were so poor, we didn't have cable, and we had like nine DVDs, and Snatch was of them. So I watched Snatch like 700 times.
01:30:19
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Mark's talking to his smoking and barrels. I think that's one I like better. Guy Ritchie. think I think like that one better. Yeah, his earlier his early films like that were pretty sweet, though. That's like another good one.
01:30:30
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Okay. Guilty pleasure movie for me. Have you ever seen a Lockdown? Lockdown? Yes. it's It's got... um Not Guy Ritchie. The one that plays with Peter Wayland in... ah
01:30:49
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Ah, shit, I can't think of his name. I can never think his name. you Oh, shit. He played ah played the Mandarin. Lockdown 2003. Oh, that's not that shit.
01:31:08
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Lockdown 2000, maybe? That's not it either. Okay, I'm going to think who this guy is.
01:31:18
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I don't, yeah. I'm trying to think of a guilty pleasure movie. I thought it was called Lockdown. Locked Up? Lock Out. Maybe that's it. Boom. 2012. Boom. Found it.
01:31:34
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Maggie Grace from Lost. She's in it. She plays the president's daughter. And Guy Pearce. Guy Pearce. know who that is? Yeah. Aussie.
01:31:45
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First role. In two Australians, first role, him Russell Crowe. No, l LA confidential. No shit. Yeah. Very interesting. Peter Stomari's in it. I forgot about that.
01:31:58
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and that's about it as far as people are going to know that we're in it. But yeah, man, it's a terrible sci-fi movie that is so awesome. His lines are amazing. He delivers them.
01:32:10
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He's the best prick since Bill Murray. Really? Dude. He has absolute gold. The first thing he says, one of the first things he says is, ah the guy's asking him, like, tell us about the information. goes, well, like I would tell you, but I was busy pumping up and down on your mom like a trampoline.
01:32:27
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So I don't remember. Just shit like that, man. He's such an amazing prick. And just the whole movie unfolds. It's just awesomely bad. It's like trauma films. you Remember trauma films?
01:32:40
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Like Toxic Avenger? What's You don't remember the toxic adventure really okay, so you're a little younger than me yes, but they were in an age gap They were in the 70s and they were called trauma films You got those trauma film company all these movies happen in the shared universe called trauma bill They all happen pretty much the same place.
01:33:00
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There was sergeant kabuki man NYPD You know Chris. So that man Brad guard coming to talk to Chris technician Thanks for popping through bro sergeant Kukaki Man? What?
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Sergeant Kabuki Man. Oh, Kabuki. Like Kabuki Theater. Yeah, all So he's dressed like one these guys. It's fucking hilarious. Sergeant Kabuki Man, NYTV. It's as awesome as it sounds. Nice. Terrible.
01:33:23
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Velocipasser. No. Not a trauma film. This is new. This came out like 2021, think. 2021. 2020,
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it's awful brought to you by the same people it is so amazing sharknado well well like trauma films right attack of the killer tomatoes you remember yeah i know that one that's a trauma film all right that's a trauma film yeah all those great old flicks they just remade the toxic avenger toxi is played by none other than self-hating dwarf defeater peter dinklage oh really yes sweet how How did you feel about the way the way you like talked down on any little person that was going to get into fucking Cinderella?
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Or not Cinderella, Snow White. I only read about it. didn't see his actual comments. but Well, he was just like, hey, if you want to alone with yourself, sure. Go be in a stupid movie and be a slave. It's like, yeah, easy for you say, Peter Dinklage, you fucking dick. You've already gotten your money. Right, exactly. Don't tell me you never took a little person to little motherfucker. A billion dollars off Game of Thrones. Get the fuck right out of here with that.
01:34:25
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so if i want Disney hears all this, and it's kerfuffle, and they're like, well, we're going to CGI him anyway. So he costs seven actors. How much money? Disney money. There's seven dwarfs being tossed in a bar right now. That is exactly right. Kicking them out for a
01:34:45
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or do Or in makeup doing what I'm gonna get canceled. No, you're not. too You're not big enough. go cancel Neither am I. but trivius When you don't exist, you can't get canceled. Those you and nobody still get canceled.
01:34:58
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That's why I say the N-word. No, I don't. No, I don't. Not even if there's N-words around. That was terrible. No, you're good. an awful person.
01:35:09
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It's fun. Speaking of the part of... i love that too and he's like walver Dingman's character. he's like He's like, some people want to be a cop just just so they can smash an Edward's head against a glass window. He's like, hey, we can do this without you leaving your personal job description out. of Yeah, right.
01:35:26
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Yeah. Your personal job description. But that's why he knows that area. He's from there. Yeah. Like, his shit's legit. Just like Jeremy Renner. it's Like, he's sort of from there, too.
01:35:37
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But his whole accent is not... Like, he was in that good area where they don't talk that way. Yeah, not Southeast. But they did, however, go down there to beat up. boom Yeah.
01:35:48
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Yeah. Jeremy Renner, what an interesting character. Yeah, I'm glad he's up and walking around. Yeah. That was pretty crazy. Yeah. Saw him. he was at like an NBA game or something recently. Good for you. so I think they did another.
01:36:01
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Well, whoever's thrown out the Tulsa King, and land it's Landman, I believe is what it's called. Not my mind. But with Billy Bob Jordan. Also, that's another... Taylor Sheridan show, but the mayor of Kingston.
01:36:16
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We're starting Jeremy Renner. It's been off for two years because he was, that never watched him. Kingston, Jamaica? No, i think it's a fictional town or maybe, uh, I know none of these paramount things.
01:36:33
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The speed of up and walking around again. Did you see super Superman, the Chris Reeves story? No, but I did watch the new Superman movie.
01:36:43
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Fucking amazing. It's a great documentary. Got me teared up a bit a couple times. Chris Reeve, cool guy. yeah Yeah. You're way more in the docs than I am. Oh, dude, I love documentaries.
01:36:55
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So if why I do a doc, it it's it's probably not going to be about... things I already like seriously no friends out but she wants to Barry Sanders or though they like I'm like I watch so many sports when I have not watching live sports I don't want to watch a documentary play sports right kind of same thing about movies and stuff too it's I'd rather just watch a movie documentary but the documentary out you know learn something new about The Dockers' movies are so interesting. Oh, I know. I'm sure. and like i Like Psycho, right? Psycho. Once you like hit play on it and you get into it, I'm sure it's fine. was the the whole
01:37:33
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There's so many things to choose from. It's almost stressful. The chase scene, right? Where they're running around.
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01:37:40
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They don't run. The set revolves.
01:37:46
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And they're running in place. The chase scene of what? Psycho. okay. they're running it and running and running. It's totally invented. Never been done before. They didn't want to have the camera all jostly. It was before they had but the Steadicam or whatever. it's fucking The Shining was the first time Steadicam was ever used. yeah They were chasing Danny around. like i and the yeah To go back to Scorsese, Goodfellas, that was like He made that like cool, the the single shot like where they're walking through the restaurant. Oh, right, right, right, right. long take. Yeah, a lot of people started copying that. that
01:38:24
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I forgot about that, yeah. caught him Joey two times. He said everything two times. The papers, the papers. Those great movies, man. It's a fucking legend.
01:38:37
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Here's a little trivia for you. So they go to Tommy's house to grab some shovels and stuff. And his mom wakes up and starts feeding them all. Who plays Tommy's mom?
01:38:51
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Not a traditional actress.
01:38:54
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I don't know that. Scorsese's mother. Oh, really? Yeah, it's Martin Scorsese's mother. Oh, man, that's good one. Yeah. Happy Gilmore, right? He's down. Happy Gilmore. The old lady's like.
01:39:08
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Yeah. know who that lady was? Adam Sandler's grandma. That's a little grandma that shit cracks me up.
01:39:19
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You can tell where some comedians get the sense of humor. Yeah, family or whatever. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I do watch some comedy podcasts and see all the time. Like, dude, my dad could and comedia We just ended up working at a factory. was the funniest guy at the factory. right you know Just about actually making the decision to do that. think Well, it's plain and safe.
01:39:41
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Factory, you get paid every week. Calmly, not so much. Unless you're young getting paid every week. Snowflake cutting us off.
01:39:50
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Thank you, love. I should love Snowflake. yeah She's great kitty. i want to steal her. We're going to winding down here. I think Dave's getting tired. He's been tired since he got here. I've been tired since Tuesday.
01:40:05
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but you That's good. Shows you're on a mission.
01:40:13
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But yeah, dude, Scorsese. what's What's the most underrated Scorsese flick?
01:40:24
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Somebody threw out a comment the other day. Think on this one. Underrated? Yeah. that I mean, no one ever talks about, which I... and i I'm not a big reader since if you read one as well I was a huge reader when I was younger I just got away from it but I thought Shutter Island was a great adaptation of that book here's my problem Shutter Island sounds a is one thing just one foreshadow is one thing
01:40:57
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Telling the story during the opening titles is another. it's It was almost like it was made for people that read the book. right I didn't read the book. anybody know wasn' kind yeah I it I whispered to the person next to me, this is how it's going to end. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? And watched the whole movie and I was like, I told you so. they're like how did you find it How did you know that? like There was so much foreshadowing in that opening credits and i'm sorry opening title scene. You see a lot of, like, and Black Rabbit did this and I think they did it well.
01:41:29
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but that's like a trend now too like tv shows and movies's like going back and forth no although open with like right before some climatic scene and then all six weeks before like yeah six thousand to say six days earlier whatever like all right can we just start six days earlier yeah but yeah tell me this where we in thanks Tarantino you jerk right yeah
01:41:53
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shut around was for Sazy yeah ah well says say which one of his are underrated mean I mean, I wasn't a fan of Raging Bull. That's another one.
01:42:05
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I've never seen it. it's is us watch watch one then Maybe I was too young. ill see, I love Taxi Grabbing. I've never seen it. yeah And that's one I didn't watch until I was an adult. It's something about older movies.
01:42:18
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Something about older movies. so a lot of times the pacing is just so different. It is very different. And it's so weird. And there are certain scenes I'm like, why the fuck is this not on the cutting room floor? Yeah. the Taxi Drive is great, though, because it's just like New York in the 70s. It's so gritty, just the the way it's shot.
01:42:35
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All the yellow cabs and everything. and It's dirty New York. So they call Fear City in the 70s. Yeah. Fear City. sweet.
01:42:46
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So Scorsese, underrated, you Shutter Island, nobody talks about it. mean, most of his films are very popular.
01:42:58
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I couldn't make it through the Irishman.
01:43:02
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It was like nine hours long. i i watched the first hour. The whole, i just didn't understand the whole, you the Irishman or the Irishman. The Irishman was, of course, a to kill the Irishman but ah by the the Cleveland car bomber. That movie was pretty cool.
01:43:16
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I love it. Great Stevenson from Rome. Great HBO series as well. Shout out Ray Stevenson recipes. Yeah, that was good. He was one of the best parts. It's a low budget film too. And they did a great job. I did it. Told the story. Yeah.
01:43:31
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I mean, being from around here, yeah, we're biased. It's little bit. But it's real. Yeah. And then was his heroes in Youngstown. I mean, the whole. Yeah. The car being Youngstown right between Pittsburgh and Cleveland is done. That's what made Youngstown such a hot spot for a small Midwestern town in the Rosdale.
01:43:52
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That wasn't rusting yet.
01:43:55
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Still booming in the seventies. Yeah. Thanks for the mob. Still booming now. Appreciate that, Candidys.
01:44:05
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It started cracking down on the mob and everything went shit. yeah Put the mob back in charge. and Let's make America great again. Yeah, Jim Traffigan. Put the mob back in charge. Is he still alive?
01:44:16
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I think so. I'm not sure. Get him back in office. Jim Traffigan, dead or alive. Half the people there are 90 years old in.
01:44:24
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See when she's actually sitting in the studio, I make her look everything up. She's my, i don't know what his name is. I don't watch Joe Rogan. I'm better than him. You think you're better than me?
01:44:35
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Yeah. Uh, Nicholson. Nicholson Sandler, anger manager. Yeah. Yeah, I liked it. I think that was probably his best comedic role.
01:44:48
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Jax? Yeah. I mean, he, he, uh, I mean, honestly, um, Whatchamacallit. Something's Gotta Give or whatever. not no He was accidentally hilarious yeah in that one. you' You're talking about that. You make me want to be a better man. yeah That's a great movie. And I hate Helen Hunt's stupid face. yeah I say that with my face. My brain is is is exhaustified why can't think lin have that move As good as it gets, thank you for crying out loud. I was about to say for what it takes. just so He's just a dick. He's a great line in that movie. where they like How do you write a women's soul? It's good. I think of man and I remove these.
01:45:34
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Reason and accountability. And accountability, that's it put no Anger management was hilarious. Underrated Sandler film.
01:45:45
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Wolf. wolf Jack Nicholson 1997. Yeah. ever that one. No? We'll see Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro in 2010. It was infinitely better than that.
01:46:00
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was info Way better. No, no, no. Way better than Wolfman or whatever it's called. Yeah, Wolfman. No. Wolf, way better. Okay. Shot by percent of two, I think.
01:46:12
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Oh, nice. I think. Nice.
01:46:16
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um just watching a documentary today about batman 89 and uh moving through like the tim burton series so much new stuff in there sean young hollywood's first crazy starlet was so nuts about wanting to play catwoman she kept sending these personal videos like before it was cool yeah just weird shit they would not give her a meeting she fucking chartered a plane Flew her ass to LA from where she was living. I think she said Arizona.
01:46:50
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Goes to Tim Byrne's office. Wants to see him. They won't give him anything. He hid under his desk to not have to be around her.
01:47:03
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That's crazy. Yeah, that's pretty wild. That's no stalker energy.
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01:47:10
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Any closing thoughts? ah Other than this was a lot of fun, um i think we covered a lot of stuff. knows it We came in with two movies and talked about 75. I knew that would happen. but I like that.
01:47:23
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We kept going back to the Scorsese theme. i like that. so You found a way to do that. You're Mr. Connections. I mean, yeah, man. I'd love to do it again sometime. It was excellent awesome being here. had great time. Appreciate it. I would absolutely love to have you back.
01:47:38
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Folks still watching, all two of you. appreciate Appreciate you hanging through there. We'll be back. Let's see Tomorrow's Saturday. don't know if there'll be a Cassius Corner or not. So that's not happening. and Then Sunday we got Necessary Roughness.
01:47:53
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Monday night we've got Cold-Blooded Conversations. Tuesday night, Glick's House of Music. Wednesday night, Hump Day Ha Ha's with myself and Brittany.
01:48:04
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And then Thursday night they've got Motorsports with Wally. Might have that backwards. Motorsports might be Monday. I think it is. I think motorsports is Monday, Thursday. It's cold blood conversations.
01:48:15
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Right back to Friday again with your uncle, daddy here for Michael. Movie night. God damn it. Again, movie night with Michael and friends. going the name of my own fucking show. I know. And I named it. wouldn't It's got my name in it. How can i possibly fuck that up?
01:48:31
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I strive for perfection. Thanks for watching everyone. I'm out of here. You know, you know ah what happened, right? It's what it is. It's This what you're here because you've done up too many times.
01:48:45
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You think you're hot in a champagne glass, but you're really cold diarrhea in Dixie cup. And if you keep up like you've been doing, this is where you're headed.
01:48:56
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Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mike Hoban. So stay right there. Here you go.
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I got married five weeks ago today to that fantastic punk rock town, fucker. I don't trust the judgment, but this song goes out to my lady.
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If I had a hammer, I'd build a house, sweetie. If I had a silver chip, I'd take a chip.
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If I had the I'd write a verse, you would be. If had the painter's touch on canvas, you would be.
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But I don't have a hand, and I don't have a ship. So I can't build you a house, and I cannot take a trip.
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I'll never have a poet's name. Never will I have your famous grace. I will not write your verse, nor will I moralize your face.
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And also, you almost certainly
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Thank you for making wish.