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Lich Please! Episode 6
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This week we are joined by the DM of Alex's first campaign - Derek !
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Transcript
Introduction of Hosts and Guest
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to the Lich Police Podcast, the soon to be number one D&D podcast in the UK. As always, I'm Joanna. Ooh, I'm here with my co-host, Alex, and today we have Alex's DM from his other campaign here with us. Do you want to introduce yourself and your world very briefly? Yeah, yeah. So to start off, my name is Derek, but I'm known as also Blood Moon and Voltage Barton, many titles.
00:00:29
Speaker
Yes, I am the DM for Alex and the my home-brewed campaign of mercenaries of four ln and I yeah, I'm personally this Alex's tormentor at this point Yes, you can say that you can say that So I've never asked you this I
00:00:56
Speaker
But how did you get into D&D? I mean, you know how I got into D&D. You were there. But how did you get into D&D? So D&D was a very big thing in my family for a very long time. My parents were big D&Ders as well. I just got started off
00:01:19
Speaker
very very young I was probably like seven when my family brought me into a campaign and I basically ruined it for them but basically my very first campaign I can't remember the details because it's been so so very long ago but I remember I was a orc barbarian with two hand axes and my
00:01:46
Speaker
It was a actual module. I don't remember what module it was, but my father was a DM and Basically, we were all in this arena where we were pitted against each other and I was not aware of that so a enemy to me Approached and I just was like, okay, but I'm just gonna start attacking so eventually I killed this enemy and I skin its fur wear it as
Derek's Journey with D&D
00:02:10
Speaker
a coat and
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Speaker
when I realized that character was my mother's character who was attacked. Yeah, no, I started off very aggressive. But he didn't pick up for me until probably a five, six years ago when I went to college. I was nude, I didn't have many friends and
00:02:35
Speaker
I just found someone who introduced me to this group, who introduced me to D&D again. And I started off kind of slow, kind of like how new players are. As you said, they don't do anything crazy quite yet until I started warming up to the idea of what D&D really is. And yeah, I just got thrown back into it in college. Nice. Pretty cool.
00:03:02
Speaker
That's a long time with D&D. I'm not going to lie, that's quite a while. I mean, while I say that, our campaign's been going a year, literally like a year and a month or something now, or a year and two months. A while, a while.
00:03:17
Speaker
A lot of stuff is happening to like a lot, so much stuff. Obviously I've talked about one here before, but yes, a character died and it was my character. We didn't talk about how and I feel like that's a really interesting conversation. Yeah.
00:03:35
Speaker
I think you've spoken about the mechanics of how you died but not like the story surrounding it. I spoke to you and the others about it because I literally put in chat like after I woke up I was like yeah guys my first character I ever made died. I was like he's
Tazroff's Dramatic Demise
00:03:51
Speaker
done he's dead. So I've told you a lot about it but it's an interesting story. Derek do you want to tell it? Oh yes I do enjoy
00:04:03
Speaker
retell the tale of Tazroff dying. Basically, Alex is the summary of the story is Alex cannot roll at all. I even told him like, Hey, just lie once or twice. I don't mind. Like, yeah, no, he's in that. But basically, we were the group decided to go down into this crypt.
00:04:32
Speaker
where there was not a death knight as you previously said on episode one Alex it was the death's champion champion of death yeah the Raven Queen herself yeah come on important details basically the champion of death wasn't even that bad of a guy he was actually just chilling he was just cursed he didn't like a better than anyone else but
00:05:01
Speaker
Uh, one of the other party members were super aggro. Um, it was like, Hey, I don't like you. So I'm just going to start attacking you. Um, and with that, uh, uh, combat, uh, started now, Alex's character, Tasrov, wasn't originally in the combat. Um, he was sending off to the sideline, just kind of watching it go down until the guy started losing clearly. So then everyone started getting back into the combat. Um,
00:05:31
Speaker
when uh let's see let's see it was you wrath and chain or the healer who joined in to the combat the champions death knockdown or first possessed the healer very dainty elven girl named chain or who does not have strange she's small she was like
00:06:01
Speaker
five five foot really like she's a small elf while you what your character on the other hand was the polar opposite you were like yes and to to last dragonborn I think cause what like
00:06:15
Speaker
200 pounds 250 to 300 pounds something like that. It's heavy. Yeah Big monk big monk. Yeah, yeah this pound for round muscle. It didn't wear shirt to show off all his But anyways, so this little dainty elf gets possessed then Someone I can't remember if it was the depth champion or someone on the team who knocked down everyone with a aoe attack
00:06:44
Speaker
to make the train all I think it was earthquake yeah and let's see you got knocked down chain or also got knocked down but her move was first and so instead of getting up she does went right on top of you I used her staff placed it on your neck and to start choking you out yeah it was a not not only was it a heavy moment
Character Creation and Campaign Overview
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Speaker
because this was the first time I actually pitted a ally against one of them
00:07:14
Speaker
But no one helped. Not a single person helped. The logic that I could get out by myself, right? That was the logic. I mean, it's Shaynor and Tazroff. I think people just assumed I'd be able to get out. I thought I'd get out as well. I was the same way. I'm like, Shaynor has a minus one in strengths. I'm like, no way. No way. Alex is going to lose this. Then we both start off very rough. I think we both crit failed like right off the bat.
00:07:44
Speaker
I'm notorious with bad rolls, but Alex seemed to beat me today. It was just a battle of rolls. He started rolling bad. I started rolling bad. I'm getting 12s and 13s, and that's winning against him with twos and fours.
00:08:04
Speaker
I have a plus modifier as well on strength. I got plus two. I was just sat there, just losing. I was just sat there. I think it was four o'clock in the morning. I was just like, oh, shit. I'll set an arm, damn. And even as a DM, I'm just trying to whiff these rolls. I'm like, come on, just roll bad. Let this man live. Yeah, yeah. I know the feeling. This can't be the way you die. But after, I think, what, six rolls back to back?
00:08:33
Speaker
Some matching was sometimes we matched a few times there. Yeah, and yeah, just After a while she breaks his neck with the staff and I was like dang I I tried everything to stop it. No one helped not a single person. Yeah, it was it was tough Ironically enough the one person who probably would have done something would have been paladin who was the aggro and
00:09:03
Speaker
against the death champion. But he was gone the next session. So I wasn't going to just take control of a character. I tried to avoid taking over characters as much as possible. So yeah, and then Shaker of the set off to the side then do a single single thing. Yeah, I was watching it had popcorn just like yeah, this is. But yeah, that's a Tesla off a dainty elf ouch.
00:09:32
Speaker
strengths uh this giant dragonborn monk yeah and um just for for context as well tazarov has nearly died multiple times before this so things are significantly stronger like there are things that have just been so much harder to kill um even his own mum i'd like to put his own mum
00:09:58
Speaker
nearly killed him and she's like incredibly strong but he died to the healer who we've known since the sniles honestly it was just unlucky there's nothing else you could do the last role I think that killed me was a natural one I got
00:10:14
Speaker
I think I ran that one three or four times in the whole cheques and I think I nat 20'd once but you also nat 20'd at the same time I did so it just meant nothing. Yeah it was just
Biggest Campaign Mistakes
00:10:30
Speaker
bad rolling, it's very very bad rolling.
00:10:33
Speaker
Yeah, and then I had to remake character, but you gave me an option of bringing him back to life. So I don't think that other people who are in our game know this, but you said I could either become the champion of death, because that was the whole scenario was someone else was going to become the champion of death. And you gave the option to Taser if you're like, yeah,
00:10:57
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you can do that if you want. That's cool. Yeah, or re-roll a character. But then I was like, basically, Tazroff is too stubborn to be taking orders from someone else because he'd have to listen to the God. I was just like, yeah, he wouldn't accept it. So he's just going to be dead. Like, yeah, it's just a part of it. It just is what it is. I sat there. I was like, yeah, I will. But now I've got my amazing new character, Karas, the sorcerer.
00:11:22
Speaker
You must have been thinking about that offer overnight. It took you a while to get back to me on that. I was very tempted to offer. He came to our chat and asked our advice. No, I put it in the chat. I was like, what would you guys do? Because I've got a fucking clue. I sat there. I was thinking about it for like the whole day. I was like, yeah, I have no idea what I'm going to do. Because obviously I have backup characters. It's like common knowledge that I have a lot of backup characters all the time.
00:11:51
Speaker
But I sat there and I was like, yeah. And I just went with my new character, obviously, Karas, sorcerer slash warlock. A cool backstory. I enjoy playing Karas. And for the first session, this was amazing. I messaged you and I was like, can I just fuck with the party and then not know
Paid Dungeon Masters Controversy
00:12:10
Speaker
I'm there? Like, because
00:12:12
Speaker
I have a ring of invisibility and obviously I have like, and I think I've winged boots as well because we're level 10 now in your campaign. And we have some, we got along the way from like blacksmiths or found it on stuff. So you let me choose some gear. So winged boots and ring of invisibility. So I was basically flying around and then using like minor illusion or formaturgy just to, and what I do is I text Derek
00:12:41
Speaker
what I wanted to be said in their ears and he'd just say it out loud like it's not me so I wasn't saying anything. Oh that's cool. He'd just be like oh yeah. He just basically just had a bunch of shit to the other players because it's me texting. That's fun. And then I basically tried to get everyone to go to a tavern to meet me.
00:13:03
Speaker
which they all thought that was going to be like a big battle and they were going to die because in this campaign generally if you listen to a voice to go somewhere by yourself it generally means that there's going to be a fight.
00:13:19
Speaker
So they went there and then they met my character and I pretended I didn't do anything until the very end of the session when we walked in the door and I went invisible and then everyone was like, oh no, something shit's happening. And I was like, no, it's just me. I've been fucking with you guys the whole time. Yeah, that was actually really fun to sit there and just chat shit about everyone on text. I can imagine, yeah. Yeah. The best part about that whole sequence with you
00:13:47
Speaker
was when there was a show, because there was like a festival at a city. So there was like a lot of like party games and stuff. So he was messing with them during all these party games. But the best part was there was this guy who was like saying that he had this freak show behind a curtain. In reality, it was just a talking deer that was it was kind of an Easter egg from one of my other groups that snuck in. And
00:14:14
Speaker
What Alex decided to do with both the invisibility and the winged boots was pick up the talking deer and make him fly away. Fly away to the tavern. So if someone who's just watching is just watching this flying deer, just, bye-bye. And then that's cool. The deer from above was like, do you have a juicy leaf? Because that's what his motto is.
00:14:37
Speaker
yeah it was it was it was really fun um that's my first session there it's been a while since then i think it's must have been like five sessions or six sessions maybe more since uh tasroff died um i mean there's there's there's been all sorts there's been a time skip tasroff has a statue in a city now um which is cool um and that was a really that was a really nice detail um i went when you said that i was like yeah let's go tasroff as a statue yeah um
00:15:06
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, so we've been playing a year and a half and a lot has happened in the camp, like genuinely like a bunch. I mean, we've owned a city, we've had massive fights in the city, massive fights, but like huge. We've freed people, we've gone against like evil
Qualities of a Good Player
00:15:30
Speaker
people. The whole point, basically the whole,
00:15:34
Speaker
thing of the campaign is we're working for someone who is meant to be the rightful emperor or king of Foylan like he's meant to be the person who was leading but I got taken over by a man called Bloodmoon and which basically being paid to kill him essentially like get rid of his reign and like but we don't trust either of them we don't trust Bloodmoon or Tarvon which is the person hiring us so we're
00:16:04
Speaker
on like middle ground trying to make our own city and rebel against both of them because we have no trust for either of them. At least I don't trust either of them at all.
00:16:16
Speaker
But yeah, so that's basically what's been happening. It's like it's a massive rebellion. But we're trying to work by ourselves in secret. And it's worked to some degree. I mean, we did actually get our own city. However, after a big fight and then Lord Tarvon came to save us, we just basically lost the city to Tarvon. And now we're just doing doing work for him. Yeah, it's it's very fun. And it is my first campaign. Yeah.
00:16:44
Speaker
So obviously, yeah, oh, you go ahead, go ahead. No, I mean, I had a question for both of you. And I want Alex Fanta first, and then I want Derek Fanta first. What do you think is the biggest fuck up that they've made? In the campaign? Alex, and then like the DM'd opinion afterwards, just to see if, because I did this on our last episode and I disagreed with them.
Favorite House Rules in D&D
00:17:10
Speaker
And then they were like, there's been a few that's, that's the thing. There's been a, we fucked up quite a few times. Um, God. Um, I mean, we've gotten people like killed, like, like we've just, we have gotten our party members just killed. So
00:17:35
Speaker
That's a difficult question. See, I'm looking at Derek's face and I'm thinking he's got one in his head already. You're out there thinking. And there's one just sitting there. Oh, God. Oh, it would have to be the... It would have to be... I know what it is and I did it. It's when... So I added to my backstory like half a few to explain some stuff that happened in it.
00:18:02
Speaker
And we went to the new town, which we claimed, Aslanor, later on. But when we went there, I met some people from our backstory with Tazroff. So in his backstory, at some point after he left his temple, he joined a secret service that was for Blood Moon. So he was a part of the secret services. He'd never met Blood Moon personally. He didn't go there and join the service through Blood Moon's recommendation. He joined when he met them on the road.
00:18:30
Speaker
And basically, when we went to Aslanor, we met people who used to be in the secret service with him, because what happened was, is a bunch of them, like a massive thing happened and a whole bunch of the secret service got killed off and everyone else was fleeing. And we met Rosie Orr, who was this little, I think she's a dwarf, she's either a dwarf or a gnome.
Memorable Moments as Player and DM
00:18:51
Speaker
Happily.
00:18:52
Speaker
Ah, there you go. Yeah, the other short one. Yeah, the other short one. She's one of the small ones. Yeah, Taz will come back up with her and she's like really bubbly personality and we basically got her into our party. But what it was is there was another person from the Secret Service there who was like, in general, everyone saw as the snake and the person who leaked the intel and got us killed. And I went there with the rest of our party to kill him.
00:19:17
Speaker
When I got there, he tried to explain that we shouldn't kill, that Roseal was a bad person, and we shouldn't kill him. And I didn't believe him, and I killed him. Which is the wrong choice, because he was right. Roseal was a bad person, and she actually removed, like, she did kill Tazroth, but Riverify exists. It was like a whole thing.
00:19:45
Speaker
She was behind a bunch of murders in the city. And yeah, she knew, it was a massive encounter. But if I'd listened to the guy who went to kill, who had his own new secret service, it would have been a lot different. That's in my eyes the biggest fuck up. Because I think two people, two NPCs, part of our party died in that encounter.
00:20:09
Speaker
um yeah it was a big fuck up it was huge yeah it's not good um so yeah definitely uh alex uh makes a lot of interesting choices without a doubt yeah um the
Impact of Video Sessions
00:20:31
Speaker
the to specify exactly one that's the biggest uh was kind of difficult because there is quite a quite a few
00:20:38
Speaker
Besides going going and loan down a dark alley way to get killed To bring in the big one of the big baddies into the party The biggest mistake that I think Alex does Which is a freedom I give all my players is if they want to find like a companion or NPC that they like to go ahead and get them convince them to join and
00:21:03
Speaker
Alex's biggest mistake is he has poor lack of judgment when it comes to who would be a good addition to the group or not because on multiple occasions he's brought in a bad person who's tried to kill someone in the group. The first person Alex said bring in the group was a character named Knox, a changeling who was hired to assassinate one of the other player characters.
00:21:35
Speaker
You don't see any red flags and I started off with a red flag I'm like she has this very hypnotizing gaze She had this unique ability where is someone still stared into her eyes. She could hypnotize them And she has used that on multiple occasions to paralyze people and
00:21:56
Speaker
and find ways to not only kill them, but to take over their place because she's a changeling. She can change into people. But yeah, he brought someone in who was trying to kill one of his allies.
Player Conflict and Game Balance
00:22:10
Speaker
And on multiple occasions, she attempted to kill them. And Alex actually didn't stop them for a few times there. But then later on, yeah, Rosie or who was possessed by a demon of revenge
00:22:27
Speaker
Who did, yes, who ended up killing a few of your NPC friends and almost killing you on three separate occasions? Now, ever since Alex has been very hesitant to bring anyone into the group, I think the biggest addition... I think the group's been hesitant to get me to bring them. Yes, that's the best addition you've had.
00:22:55
Speaker
The group does not want you to talk to people anymore. Nope. Nope. I mean, if I remember when there was some point, who did I bring in? It was, um, it was Taz, it was, it was, what's her name? Meladif or is that her name? The other Dragonborn. Meldiaf, that's the one. Yeah. It's another Dragonborn, that new stuff that Taz Rock needed to know.
00:23:25
Speaker
And he tried to, he wanted to bring her into the party and basically everyone was against the idea. Um, because at that point I was 50%, I was two for four on bad to good guys I brought in the party. Um, yeah. So.
00:23:41
Speaker
Tezraf wasn't great. So far, Karas hasn't had the chance to bring someone into the party, which is probably a good thing to consider.
Favorite D&D Classes and Subclasses
00:23:50
Speaker
But yeah, I've had very questionable choices of people to bring NPCs to the party. Very questionable. Yeah. So.
00:24:05
Speaker
We've talked about this before on previous episodes with other DMs. What is your opinion on paid versus unpaid DMing? So it's one of the most touchy subjects when it comes to the D&D community. I personally don't support paid. Personally, I don't support paid DMing, but I do understand the concept of it. I do understand that for some people,
00:24:34
Speaker
This could be a livelihood for them. It does take a lot of creativity for some DMs to make the world that they go to or to bring the adventure to people. And depending on who you get, sometimes that experience can be a little bit better. While I personally would never charge someone to play DD, because to me, this is
00:25:03
Speaker
it's not a something I want to gain from because this is this is personal enjoyment for me like when I when I'm done at work on Monday yeah I'm yeah I'm like I want to I want to relax I want to this is my best hobby so I personally am not again with it but I do understand why some people want charge
00:25:28
Speaker
So I actually
Episode Conclusion and Community Shoutouts
00:25:30
Speaker
found an ad the other day which I secretly enjoyed because I read it and I felt like I had to comment because I just disobeyed the way that they'd set out the
00:25:41
Speaker
Yeah, I'll briefly skim over it. They've gone, like, hi, everyone, looking for a place for a place to go to the Strad. This will be timezoned Tuesday at 8 p.m. for a couple of hours. And they go on, this adventure you will find. An intriguing home-brewed intro into Curse Strad. Unique, like a huge list of different things like
00:26:05
Speaker
10 bullet points of different things they were doing. At the very bottom, they've put, if you want to join the campaign, please reply below or DM me for details on pricing and availability. That at the very bottom of a long list of everything is kind of like that.
00:26:19
Speaker
shitty you need to I think they need to be put in price like this is paid at the very top of the ad right off the top I think it's just and some of it comes across predatory I think as well I've said that before in the podcast but I do think especially if you're a DM who does a lot of online looking for players you'll you you just see the I'm new to D&D and they'll comment in the bottom being like hi I run paid games it's kind of like you jumped in immediately in a brand new player
00:26:49
Speaker
It makes me feel weird. Yeah. Sometimes I do feel like with the pricing, it could be, could make the biggest difference. Cause when I see paid, uh, paid, uh, DM sessions, it's not just like a one-time payment. That's it. It's always like per people, they need to pay like $20 or $30 per session. I'm like, that's ridiculous. Cause.
00:27:19
Speaker
One, if you're bringing in five people, that's already more than enough. But then you're like per session, and I'm like, I don't know. If I'm paying anything, it's going to be a one-time payment. That's it. All of us paying $20 each, we already paid for the book for Curse of Shrod. That's it. Exactly. Yeah.
00:27:44
Speaker
especially if it's a module, like you're just running a module as well, it's kind of like what, what are you, you're not doing a huge amount of prep, you're not doing, you're not spending a week writing an adventure, planning everything, you're just opening a book and going, okay, I'll do a little bit of backstory for this person and this, it's kind of like, okay, what? Really, if it's your job and you're a full-time paid DM, I think you should be doing homebrew.
00:28:14
Speaker
But I think that'll lead us on nicely to the next question of... Something went wrong with the recording, so we'll skip about a bit. Sorry about that. Bit of an inconvenience, but yeah, the rest of the episode will still be there.
00:28:31
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to part two of the brief work from our advertisers. Chatting. So I've actually got a hot take this week, a new segment we're going to do. And I found an interesting one, which... Oh no, has it disappeared? It has disappeared. Oh no.
00:28:59
Speaker
Give me five minutes and I'll find it again. But do you have any D&D hot takes? Either of you. That's a good question. I don't think I have anything off top of mine.
00:29:28
Speaker
My right now it's not technically D&D but it's D&D orientated. Baldur's Gate 3, has anyone had the chance to play it yet? I've played so much of Baldur's Gate 3. I haven't, it's a bit too rich on my blood at the minute. I can, unfortunately.
00:29:46
Speaker
I am part of the part of the groups who are not allowed to play it at the moment because I'm an Xbox player. So I see so much stuff on there. I'm like, this game is beautiful. It's one thing that I think that got me the most was I seen a post about how you can romance one of your companions while they are in their bear form.
00:30:14
Speaker
as a druid. And you can too be a mayor. Oh, I've heard this. Yeah, the house in the house in romance quest line. Yeah, it's it's it's you can do that. It's very mad. I saw it as well as that. Oh, boy. Serious question now. Yeah.
00:30:32
Speaker
Did you fuck the bear? No, no, I've not done the house in romance quest lie. I don't know, it seems a little guilty right there. I found the hot tag.
00:30:50
Speaker
Okay, I'll read it first, and then you guys can make your decision. Halflings suck. They're perfectly fine mechanically, but law-wise, there's another short person option. They're way less interesting than dwarf unknowns. I tend to write things where they flat-out don't exist. Which just seems... I don't know. Just so you don't like them.
00:31:20
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. They've got very different culture to Gnomes and Dwarves. Yeah, they're all vastly different. Short people. That's just what they're characterized as now. They don't have any special abilities. They're just really short. That's it.
00:31:48
Speaker
Halfling of the Great though is Lucky. Lucky's a really good feature. Yeah, Lucky is cool. I mean, there is a sub race of Halfling. I'm trying to remember what their name is. I think it's like, let's see, I'm pulling on my D&D Beyond. Always great to use. Because I buy way too much stuff on there. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. Oh, ghost wise Halflings. They are really cool. They're
00:32:17
Speaker
Basically, they still have all the halfling features, like Lucky Brave and all that. But they're a unique breed, a rare breed of halfling. So rare that they actually, in the description of them, they say, you need to talk to your DM about it, because that's how rare they are. Oh, wow. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Damn.
00:32:46
Speaker
Yeah, it says talk to your DM if you can play a member of the sub race. And then it has his own little sub race over here. Let's see. I think the biggest difference between them and the normal one is they have something called silent speech. I'm not 100% sure what that is. I've never played as I'm I remember one of my
00:33:13
Speaker
When I was a player, someone played as one of them and they were just beast mode with that character. Besides the fact that they're naturally stealthy, they are like the perfect rogues.
00:33:27
Speaker
I mean, sure, short, though. They are short. Yeah. Yeah, that's that. That's true. They are. They are short. I think boiling them down to short people is I don't know. It's an it's a hot take. That's for sure. My guess is they've had a lot of experience with a halfling, I reckon. Yeah. Yeah. A bad experience. Or they don't like they just they just think too short for things enough. Yeah.
00:33:57
Speaker
Do you have a hot take Alex? I can't really think of one, to be honest. There's not many, I don't think I've been playing long enough to know people who have done something that I've found weird to do, because it's just, where it's like, oh, that's like hot takeable, like, oh, why are you doing that? No, I can't think of one.
00:34:24
Speaker
Nah, not a clue, not a clue. For me it's... Go on, go ahead. Is there any races in the ND&D that you just don't care for? Like, you're just like, ah, nah, that's a halfling, they're short. Is there any...? Yeah, okay, what's my halfling? Damn.
00:34:55
Speaker
Ooh. That's a good question. I guess based on my campaign, it's Warforged. But I think it's more that I think they're very difficult to fit into a campaign. It can disrupt the vibe with some people you've got this big, hunking robot walking about. But I've got plans to introduce Warforged. Which...
00:35:25
Speaker
might be news to Alex but yeah oh god maybe like uh tritons it's just i've never seen anyone use one because they're basically just water ganassi like they're basically the same
00:35:41
Speaker
There's one thing you get is different and then otherwise they're the same. Like it's not like I'm anti-triton. It's not like I'm anti-triton. It's just, they're the same. But I feel I've never played in a campaign like setting an elf character, like an elf race. It's just, there's so many and relatively like,
00:36:12
Speaker
I get why people use them, but I just feel like I don't want to use that one everyone uses. You have water out, right? Yeah, yeah. Which is a different thing to... And there's like, what else? I've got no qualms and I just don't want to use a race everyone uses. Like I get they have good additions, which is why people use them, but I just don't want to use one that everyone uses, basically.
00:36:37
Speaker
because it's just like the generic one, basically. It's not like I've got anything particular, like I've removed a race from D&D.
00:36:46
Speaker
Like, most of the law words there, Alex. Yes, I'm backtracking. Yeah. I'm going to get a message from Rosie after this episode. You are. What? You have Tritons? I don't know. I feel like there's not a race I would remove. There's races I would add. Like, because they don't have a lot of races in like D&D Beyond. There's race. Obviously, if you go out and search for it, you'll find them.
00:37:16
Speaker
Um, yeah. Yeah. Um, like, I don't think that I don't think siren is an actual race in D&D beyond, um, which should be, it should be. Siren is cool. Siren is cool. Um, yeah. Um, what's the fucker with one eye? Um, Cyclops could be cool. Yeah. Cyclops would be cool. Yeah.
00:37:44
Speaker
but they're just one-eyed gonifs. It'd be fun to play like a weirdly intelligent, like a monocled cyclops with a wizard. Like a cop car. Got that curly mustache too while we're at it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, definitely.
00:38:10
Speaker
So I'm actually going to ask you both for this, because we haven't covered it before. We have talked about this question for DMs, but I feel like it's not been covered. When you two search online for players, what is the thing where you're just like, they're going to be a good player? And then what's the thing where it's like, they're going to be a bad player, and I don't want them in my campaign? How do you tell the difference?
00:38:38
Speaker
Oh, um, it is a good question. I think one of the main things I look for is multiple ideas. If they come, if they've like immediately come back with like, Oh, I might do this or I might do that. Then I'm like, okay, that's a good car. Also. Yeah. I think multiple ideas is a good first step is that they thought about this. They've got some ideas and they're actually engaged. Um, that's a good first step.
00:39:11
Speaker
I don't know. It's such a difficult question. It's a very good question because as DMs, that's something we try to look for because we don't want to bring someone who's going to kind of ruin the vibe. We don't want anyone who's like just going to be a party pooper for everyone. As someone who, as you know, Alex,
00:39:39
Speaker
Who was doing basically most of the recruiting for our server? One thing I would always look at is how they handled past experiences with other servers or other campaigns if they Typically I noticed there's a trend where if they start nothing but negative about other campaigns Typically that means that they're most likely the one who
00:40:07
Speaker
Was was kind of bringing it down a bit. Um now now there are dms who are like strict strict strict and there are players who will Combat you to the end about rules, especially in homebrewed worlds. There are definitely uh unique people like that but For me when when it was bringing people in it was that first vibe like like seeing how engaged you were Like that's why we did that one on one talk before bringing you into the server was just to see how like
00:40:36
Speaker
Excited you were about this like if you're gonna be like engaged full and and of course obviously some bad ones got in and Obviously they end up weeding themselves out. But yes The vibe is all is what I go off like when me and Alex talked I was like this guy I Like this. Yeah Yeah, just get in my campaign now
00:41:08
Speaker
So something that I think I've mentioned before that I do is I do most of my interactions over like Messenger with them or like Discord. I will then take, I will screenshot like all the conversation with all the people I'm talking to and send it to the party so they can all decide on like, we like that person, we don't like that person. Just because I feel like they need to have some level of
00:41:37
Speaker
like vote re-engagement in who gets added, because they have to play with them at the end of the day. And if they don't vibe within this, no point bringing them in, like no matter how amazing they are, if they're not going to, it's not going to be like, yeah, this was great as well, and they're not going to actively properly engage with that person, there's no point even thinking about bringing them in. Something else I've done as well is, as you know, Alex, on the PDF, you've got a request access,
00:42:08
Speaker
So immediately if I'm talking to someone and I'm like, well, have you read my file? And they're like, oh yeah, yeah, I've read it. Well, you did it because I have to give you access to the PDF. And if you've not requested access, you've not seen it, have you? And that immediately cuts out some people, which is an interesting move. I mean, so
00:42:28
Speaker
It's actually cool because in both campaigns I'm in with both of you two, you keep track of a lot of the law. Like in Derek, you've got the companions guide, which I think is amazing. And I'm absolutely going to steal that idea for the pirate campaign because I was like, yes, companion guide. So I was telling Joanne about this. You do weekly polls on stuff that happens whilst we're away and you get everyone to vote on it.
00:42:55
Speaker
Which I also I'm absolutely implementing in my campaign for like travel at sea Because travel at sea can be boring And I'm like, yes, please Let's do some polls. I find that amazing and then you and you have the whole entire law on document
00:43:14
Speaker
for everyone to see the campaign, which I love because I'm a law gremlin, believe it or not. Yes, you are. I always have a tab open. It's definitely some of my favorite things about DMing. But another question for you both is, what is your favorite DM house rule, something you guys do or learn from someone as a DM that you implement in your games? Oh, that's a good question again.
00:43:46
Speaker
Because I'm absolutely going to steal this, by the way. Whatever is said, I will be using. I don't know. Yeah, no, that's a thing right there. Yeah, we've got... I don't think we've hit to move out the house rules that we've decided to run yet, apart from on that one rule.
00:44:09
Speaker
Which is really, it's fine. It could be better, which is the, you roll on that one, you roll one D six. If it's a one to three, you take it, you're going to take some damage. If it's four and above, you're fine. If you roll the one to three, you're on another D six. Then you take that number of damage, which is fine. It's not amazing. It could be better. It works. And it does add that tension. Yeah.
00:44:37
Speaker
There are things that I could do better with it, but it works at the minute, so we're going to stick with it. How are the houses? Oh, I guess my rule of the law. If you can remember it from the book yourself, that's fine. You know that. Your character knows that. But if you ask me for that information in the session, then I'm going to make you roll for it, which kind of encourages them to read the book, understand the book,
00:45:04
Speaker
have that law, have it ready, which Alex is absolutely taking on board. All the time. There's been sessions where they've been set on a campfire doing history and I was like, well, there's this person mentioned on this page. In this era. Go to page 68 and you will find everything about the Chaos Fods. I actually think it is page 68 and might have to fact check that. And I think you're right, it might be page 68. Yeah, I've read a lot.
00:45:32
Speaker
I tend to read a lot of the lore. That's accessible. Yeah. What about you, Derek? What's a cool house rule that you use or you've seen another DM use that you like? So I try not to take away too much from other DMs, mainly because as a DM, I try to find my own footing when it comes to becoming a DM. So I try to give it
00:46:02
Speaker
Just go go my my rules is go go with it. I'm like obviously I do right ahead by With D&D. There's so much that can happen, especially in a homebrew setting there You you you gotta make it up on the fly sometimes and that's yeah my go-to I I just plans I try to plan ahead by giving like complete options and
00:46:29
Speaker
But making it up on the fly is just the only thing you can really take away sometimes. Because I've only played in homebrew campaigns for the most part as well. So it's a take and give kind of thing. Now there is something I did implement to our campaign that I didn't learn from another campaign, but just from some video games in general. Have either of you played the Dragon Age games?
00:47:00
Speaker
Yes, I have not. I love the Dragon Age games, one of my favorite game franchises ever. So you, if you recall in the first game, there was a bar, a progression bar between how a character reacts with your choices. And sometimes it goes positively, sometimes it goes down. And if the lower it goes, the more of an enemy you make out of them. But obviously the higher it gets, the bigger of a friend you are with them.
00:47:26
Speaker
So what I actually, uh, I don't know if Alex knows this or not, but what I, um, I was into a lot of programming. I was actually going for a computer science when I was in college and I actually picked up a, uh, a module where I can. Adjust the, uh, uh, reactions of the NPCs to the character choices. Like I will input something that like say Alex does like if he stole Apple.
00:47:54
Speaker
obviously more chaotic incline through the alignment charts. Companions are gonna be like, fuck yeah, that's awesome, that's a nice apple. While more of the non-chaotic, the good would be like, that's shameful, why would you do that? And I implemented the alignment chart with this progression module I have.
00:48:19
Speaker
So every time I input something very simple simple like you can't you get this type in the paragraph but in a sentence of something that could have a positive or negative effect and it will actually change the alignments of all of the NPCs to Alex's character. That's cool as fuck. That's really cool. That's really cool. A lot of time to set up but it it works very well. And that's why Alex if you've noticed
00:48:48
Speaker
sometimes characters do interact with you differently than others like uh actually rosie or looks at you quite highly now because of you basically saving your soul but other characters like you know uh um uh in the case of this misery
00:49:05
Speaker
You don't interact with her. You've not said a word to that woman yet. And she does not. I think I've ever talked to misery and like me, Tazworth and Shagriff are very close friends. So it's kind of meant that I've never said a word to misery. It's like you're your best friend's wife and you're like, who the hell are you? I've never said a word to you. Alex.
00:49:33
Speaker
I mean, you know, it just, it just happens. I mean, it's too late now. Tesla died. He's not going to be able to speak to me. Sorry. Um, Oh, that was actually really cool. The whole program for that is really cool. Um, so, uh, two questions. Well, two things. The first question, uh, the first thing is, I know.
00:49:59
Speaker
Well, one's the whole story that I'll have. The other is, and we'll start with that, is, Derek, I sent you a message earlier, like probably yesterday, about your favorite moment as a DM and your favorite moment as a player. This is always my favorite part. I'm very intrigued. I'm very intrigued. I'm very intrigued. It doesn't have to be our campaign. It can be anything, obviously. I really want to know, because you have been playing a long time. So, yeah, go ahead. Oh, man. It's so hard to...
00:50:29
Speaker
take one moment as I've been a part of a lot of campus of the amount of campaigns and be it was a player in a lot of it it's so hard to choose one I'm gonna start off with one my favorite player moments which was my re-introduction to D&D when I went out after I went to study in college and I was introduced to it I this was a home-brewed I campaign but it was more like not as like medieval fantasy like most
00:50:59
Speaker
But it was like star traveling at this point, like with Gith and all of them. And I was introduced to the middle of the campaign. And I was like, they're like, do whatever you want. So my character, his name was Yurazu. He was a Goliath, lovely Goliath, who was open out of this chamber. And the first thing he's seen was this misfit crew of
00:51:29
Speaker
all different races, a dwarf who was purple, like purple skin, purple hair. And I'm like, what the hell is that? And they're like, you just, you just woke up from this chamber. What do you do? And I'm like, I'm gonna grab my war hammer and hit that guy. Like first thing out of the bag, I'm like, I'm like, what I tried to do as a player, I tried to put myself in this situation. Like what would I really have done?
00:51:57
Speaker
I'm like, yeah, if I just woke up and there's all these guys with weapons and stuff in front of me, I'm going to, I'm going to fight, you know? Uh, so I'm like, yeah, hit him with a hammer. And then after they contained me in, like, it was like, Hey, we're not trying to hurt you. I found out my origin was I was a clone of someone who was a polar opposite of my guy. Um, and basically after that, all these other clones started coming out from all the other characters in this party. And obviously since they're the good guys,
00:52:27
Speaker
all the clones are bad. So we're finding all these clones and that purple dwarf has this belt of like where he I don't I don't recall what it's exactly called but he like structures out and he can get super big and I'm like I'm gonna throw that guy at his clone and they're like are you allowing this I'm like and he was like no I'm not allowing this and so we rolled a strength versus strength I won
00:52:54
Speaker
I did a whirlwind through him, through his clone because I crit 20'd my throw and I crit 20'd the attack on him. So that was two crits right off the bat and I'm like, this is awesome. Throw his purple double into his blue double and he's just like a giant hole of what a dwarf could fit in a giant dwarf.
00:53:22
Speaker
So I threw a man through a man who was his clone, his evil clone. Very much later after that, I actually abandoned the group and betrayed them to the evil clones because they were like, there was like this big boss battle and I'm like,
00:53:43
Speaker
Like, I'm like in that realism mode, so I'm like, I don't know these people. I don't know who they are. So I'm like, screw these people. I'm going to jump on the Starship and get out of here. So I just walk onto the big bad ship and I'm like, there's a, um, a Yonti who was like armed, like arming the ballista and they're like aiming at me. I'm like, I'm gonna try to romance, romance this, uh, person to get on the ship. Roll in, roll in. I crit failed. And I'll just outright like, I'm like,
00:54:13
Speaker
a girl like you got a boyfriend or something and then Crip failed it. And she's like, I'm a lesbian and then shoes me up a ballista. And yeah, no, I died because of that because I portrayed the team. So it was great. It was great. Favorite moment as a DM. Now, that one's really hard. I have DM more than I have played at this point.
00:54:44
Speaker
and let's see. Honestly, one of the most best moments is actually very recently when I introduced, like we started putting video cameras in our game, Alex, and I got to actually see you guys. Nothing filled me with more pride than actually seeing your guys' reactions to some like my twist and some of my
00:55:14
Speaker
moments cuz like like not only did it show that you guys were actually really engaging with it, but It like when I see Alice's face drop when I did a twist the best thing ever honestly, cuz it was honest and it was pure and that's what made it amazing because During I have been nothing but a DM online did you know did you cove it? So and rarely do I ever actually see face-to-face with any of my players and so I was like, you know We've been talking for a year
00:55:44
Speaker
Let's add something into this. Let's see each other. Let's uh, let's make it a little more uh, get closer and bond a little bit And that it just felt it felt Good, like very prideful of my uh creation because I actually got to see you guys interacting and like it's not like you guys playing on your phone and like Oh, yeah, that's amazing. Like no you're like engaged full and I was like, that's fucking awesome
00:56:09
Speaker
maybe we need to do that yeah we could do to be fair i mean we've seen um it was weird though i'll tell you what it was very weird seeing everyone's faces for the first time i hope that's what people look like this is weird seeing if you've got that like mental image of what someone looks like and then it's just honestly like i didn't even know what to expect i mean i i think uh
00:56:31
Speaker
I think most of us had our cameras on that session. I think, who didn't? There were people who weren't there, and then, and Raph didn't. I don't know. Raph didn't. Yeah. Then everyone else had it. Raph was a good exception, mainly because he's got family and all that kids running around. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no. I had it. Crispy or Tommy, he had his. What were you? No, this is a question. I'm genuinely curious. Now, what did you expect us to look like? Oh, this is a question. This is a good question.
00:57:04
Speaker
So I think I remember at some point, like before we'd seen our faces that you said you had some like Nordic ancestry.
00:57:12
Speaker
So I was expecting like bright blonde hair and blue eyes. I was like, yeah, you're going to look like, I don't know, like a Viking. To be fair, I didn't think I was far off of your guess. I was like, when you popped up, I was like, oh, you kind of look like how I expected. Tommy, I did not think he'd have curly hair. That just threw me off. I was like, whoa. It's like curly hair. I was like, I had no idea. Yeah. Oh, and that's threw me off. I had no idea.
00:57:41
Speaker
I genuinely had no expectations for what he looked like, but when he peered on the screen, I was like, oh. I was like, okay, that's what you look like. It's genuinely, I think, so you were the closest in my head to what you looked like, but Tommy was way off. I had no idea. I didn't see curly hair. I was certainly like, no, he can't love curly hair.
00:58:05
Speaker
I think Tommy's got a beard, right? Like a small beard, if I remember. He had a big beard. Yeah, he's got his big beard. That's it. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I didn't think I thought it would be like clean shaven with like hair slicked back curly hair. And on the minute I saw it, I was like curly hair. I was like, I was so surprised. I was like, OK, wow. Yeah. But it was really good. It was actually really enjoyable moment to see everyone's faces and play D&D. We should absolutely do it in our campaign. I mean, I've seen it.
00:58:35
Speaker
three of your guys' faces, I think. It was yours. And, um, and, um, and, uh, and the Shari. Yeah. And the Shari. Um,
00:58:44
Speaker
We should absolutely do it. I think it'd be hilarious. I think it'd be good. You know what? We'll suggest it for tomorrow because tomorrow I've got a big combat planned. The last time we had a big combat, around six hours. Yeah, we had a six hour combat session. I was so tired. It was rough. I had a half an hour break before I went into your session.
00:59:10
Speaker
Oh, God. That's like nine hours of D&D from 7 p.m. our time to what, like 4 a.m. or ever. When are we finished? Yeah. Because I'll have you guys back. So I get like a that's why sometimes I miss sessions because I get so tired. I just sleep and I just forget. Yeah. Because I play both you on Mondays or Tuesday mornings, technically. But yeah. Cool.
00:59:39
Speaker
yeah i did not blame you i did not blame you for that at all one in the morning for you i would i would have come on out of time now like what the hell wake him up i don't care if that's two in the morning get up
01:00:01
Speaker
I was kind of hoping you would give me a taste of my own medicine. You'd be like, oh, no, we're going to start at like eight in the morning. I want I want you up. Nice. I can't do that. But yeah. Cool. D&D Horror Story. Yeah, let's go.
01:00:24
Speaker
None of them, I don't think, have been truly horrific yet, to be fair. No. None of the ones that we've had have been awful. The horrific ones I've seen is like, I can't be speaking about this on a podcast. Like, this is insane. Yeah, no. The ones I've seen that are truly bad on my weekend. Hopefully this one sparks some interesting conversations. So the title is, Am I the Asshole? Character Creation Edition. Yeah. Oh, God. That's interesting.
01:00:49
Speaker
Hey all, so I've been on a D&D kick lately and set out to start a new campaign with friends. During our session zero, one of the players playing a Warforged Artificer asked the DM if he can have Mythril plate armor for his character as it made sense to his background. From the get go, asking for Mythril plate.
01:01:07
Speaker
The DM said yes, the DM agreed, because it's part of his background. The more I thought about it, the more it bothered me, as first of all, we're starting at level one, and secondly, Artifices don't have heavy armor for efficiency, so this character physically can't wear it.
01:01:24
Speaker
I approached the player through text explaining my concerns about making combat difficult to balance for the DM, and would be either too easy or difficult. And the fact our Warlock has an 11 AC, which would be a 10 point difference to a monstrous 21 AC or artificial. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, obviously 18 AC from Mithril, yeah, and Warforged ability.
01:01:45
Speaker
He appreciated me coming to him with his concerns, which is so, so far is good. Like they're communicating, which communication. Yeah. The horror stories. Right. So he got a text back from the guy saying he reached out to the DM and the, the DM said, it's okay. It's fine. The comeback will be okay. I don't want to be rules lawyer or anything, but I still don't feel comfortable with this. It breaks the rules.
01:02:11
Speaker
It's a massive power difference between characters, and we have two new players in the group who wouldn't know what to ask the DM for, because they're new, they don't know what to ask for, right? I don't want to ruin the campaign before session one, but this just feels unfair. For context, they're playing a cleric with an 18 AC, so it's not like my character would be most affected by strong attack role-based enemies, but still.
01:02:35
Speaker
My overall fear is that we will have a character that will always outperform and outpace others in combat, and none of our actions matter because he's untouchable at early level and late, since he can augment his armour and shield with infusions. The only thing he would provide a challenge is spell-based enemies, but always facing the same enemy would be boring. I could continue on, but the gist is... Am I the arsehole is what he's asked. Now,
01:03:03
Speaker
Someone in the comments did post the rule to armor proficiency, and that is if you're not proficient, you will have disadvantage on ability checks, saving throws, or attack rolls that involve strength or decks, and you can't cast spells. So obviously that person is gonna have that. If the DM runs with it. Yeah. So my logic is, and I read a lot about this in the comments,
01:03:30
Speaker
Yes, miffle plate armor from level one is crazy. Like it's insane. But the DM said it was fine. You just got to trust the DM. Like as much as it sucks to be you because that person's got miffle plate and is probably over level for everything, you have to trust the DM. Like at the end of the day, they've probably got an idea of what to do to make things interesting. But I can absolutely see that argument and the fact that
01:03:58
Speaker
Mithrilplate from level one is crazy. Like, I get it, but they've communicated their problems and the DMs basically said it's fine. Yeah. I think they're kind of the arsehole. Not fully, just kind of. Because they're not trusting their players or DMs, basically. It's how I feel. This might be because I'm a dickhead, but...
01:04:23
Speaker
I would let the player have the Mythril Armor, let everything be fine, until they started being like, okay, I want to do this skill type, okay, at disadvantage, at disadvantage. Okay, I want to cast a spell, or you can't cast spells, and then just be like, well, you wanted the armor. If you want to cast spells, take off the armor. But yeah,
01:04:47
Speaker
They're not a dickhead because they are concerned about game balance and new players. Well, we don't know that. That's what they're saying. But yeah, just trust the DM. The DM has made a decision and that is you've got to listen to what the person running the game is saying. Yeah, no. At the end of the day,
01:05:15
Speaker
It wouldn't even be the players fault if everything went wrong. It would kind of come down to the DM because he was allowing of it But yeah, if he allowed it there would have been a good reason in the background Now I don't know if I would have started off of mythical at level one personally, but It's a little OP right off the bat, but uh, I
01:05:43
Speaker
Especially with newer players I I mean I would have been fine with granting it later on Just saying hey your your character advanced enough where this is an option now for you, but Right off the bat. I don't I don't know that's Especially cuz let's roll negates. That's alright go on
01:06:05
Speaker
Oh, I was gonna say, especially like in the very beginning here, I'm not throwing anything heavy at you, you know? I'm not gonna be throwing a dragon or anything. I'm throwing like a cobalt, just one. Yeah, and Mistral is the one that negates crits, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that takes away like a big fear factor in making combat interesting. If you can't get crit, especially with an AC of 21, what, you know, and combat is gonna be boring.
01:06:34
Speaker
I definitely would question the DM but I think obviously because he's let it happen or there's logic to it. So like they might just be doing what you said Joanne and just every time they try to do a check spell you can't do it because you've got that armour on. But like the person who wrote it firstly also has an 18 AC which when I read that I was like okay your AC is also quite high.
01:07:00
Speaker
So it doesn't affect you as much. I'd understand if it was like, oh, everyone has like an AC that's less than 14 and you got one with 21, but it's not like yours is high. But secondly, like it seems that the person who wrote it doesn't trust their DM. Like, because they're questioning like the logic behind it. I get why they both, but it just seems like they don't trust their DM. Yeah.
01:07:25
Speaker
It also comes across a bit white-nighty that they're saying, I've got this issue for new players for this. If no one's got an issue with it, if it's their first campaign, they just want to have fun.
01:07:37
Speaker
Yeah. If it becomes an issue, you can then bring it up with the DM and be like, well, this isn't what D&D is, but if no one's having an issue right now, just roll with it. Yeah. Just go. Yeah, exactly. And that means, what do you think the answer would be? Are they being a dick? No, I don't know. It's a difficult question.
01:08:07
Speaker
I think they're not and they are. They are for not trusting their DM because they're like, oh, I want to be a rules lawyer for the DM. But they're not for voicing their concerns.
01:08:22
Speaker
well done for communicating your concerns. The general thing for horror stories is nobody talks to each other. Fair enough. But I think they're doing it for still questioning everything. Like you've talked to the DM and the player and they've discussed it and they've made it make sense for you, but then you're still questioning. I think that's where they'd be the asshole. Everything else is fair.
01:08:49
Speaker
what's funny is communication is normally the issue in most of these stories and communication is the issue this time again, but it's the opposite way around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, they talked it out. So like, I mean, if the DM was cool fit and the player even said like, they appreciate you talking and like being concerned about it, but I would, I think
01:09:14
Speaker
I would want someone to come to me with an issue like that and I could be like, look, trust me, I've got this, it's fine, don't worry about it. Yeah, 100%. But I think I would give slightly more context than the DM thing.
01:09:29
Speaker
then they go out and maybe say, it's maybe go, it's my game. I'm going to run it how I want. They can have the armor. I don't care. Or it's fine. I'm going to deal with it. They will know the consequences of taking this armor. I think the DM could have given slightly more information rather than just be like, it's fine. And then again, there is just a lot of context that we're missing, like about the campaign itself. It is hard to play to that, but yeah, I don't, I'm kind of with Alex. It's on that 50 50 line. It's like,
01:09:59
Speaker
You know, you did very well communicating and there's a lot of players who are a lot more toxic than that. Like, let's be honest. They will, they will grow fits like, like their children. Uh, so, you know, like kudos on you for like, at least voicing your concern. Uh, but yeah, at the end of the day, like what, what's going to, is this going to be a deal breaker for you? Is, is this going to make you want to quit the campaign? Do you feel like this special treatment going on or something like, or is this something like you can get passed?
01:10:31
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Yeah. Yeah. So my last question, at least, is favourite class and subclass? Because it disappeared on the notes, but I have remembered last second. Oh, yeah. Damn, we almost forgot again. Oh, we've asked it twice in six episodes. Yeah. Yeah. Favourite class and subclass? What would it be? Favourite? They can be different. They can be different. Oh, yeah. Perfect.
01:11:01
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Alright, so favorite class off the bat that I can think of is I very much enjoyed being a blood hunter Okay, it felt it felt very powerful But like like their sacrifices you did sacrifice quite a bit to be as strong as you were I had one of my most fun playing as a blood hunter until until I murdered it as a person but that's a Sorry for a later time
01:11:25
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um but uh yes no uh blood hunter was so fun because of that power that you had it was just like uh like like you weren't you weren't powerful enough where you felt op because you you lacked in other categories then but no super fun um subclass that that was a little trickier because there's a lot of subclasses i played with um
01:11:52
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While you think, I've actually got, I think, a hot take on Blood Hunters, which I kind of want to bring up.
01:12:01
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I, blood hunters are a homebrew class. And if you want to play a blood hunter, you've got to discuss it with your DM first. Blood hunter is a class that was made by Matt Mercer. I don't care if it's Matt Mercer, it's still a homebrew class. Like, regardless, we know he's written an official book. And, but it is still a homebrew class. And I think a lot of people
01:12:24
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do just bring it in and it's kind of like, well, I like, I don't, I personally wouldn't give a fuck if you can play a blood hunter, but I think it does need to be respected. It is a, it is a homebrew class. And if you want to play it, you need to at least vocalize that for the DM first before planning that you're going to play a blood hunter. Yeah, no, a blood hunter is definitely, there's a reason why, like even on D&D Beyond,
01:12:53
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You have to select certain modifiers that put blood hunter in there. Like, it's non-core. It's non-core. But it definitely is one of the more fun classes. Now, when it came to subclasses, that one was tricky because I tried to limit it down to what class to subclass. And I have a favorite for, I would say, a majority of them.
01:13:20
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when i think of like fun subclasses the two that pop up would be um i want to say soul knife rogue and oh nice yes and then let's see i'm trying to get the barbarian ones i'm pulling it up right here oh
01:13:39
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half of the storm herald uh... yes nip yeah i really like stop how do you make for basically exactly like you are eight degrees or how could you not want that i'm so cool now for uh... path of the soul knife uh... for the road art type uh... the reason why i'm i'm really fond of that one at the moment because i am playing another campaign currently where i am eight grub uh...
01:14:07
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rogues with soul knife. Oh, that's an and that's that I have had a play run grung before and oh my god, they are one of the most fun class races to play. I have to Yeah, absolutely. But but there's a little bit more to it because I'm not just a grung. So I'll give you a very brief of the backstory of it. But basically, my character named Yasmir was a drow
01:14:34
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a drow assassin for a League of Assassins. I've killed kings, I've killed princes, I've assassinated many targets. Now one of my more elusive targets was a Prince Grung of this little Grung tribe, but the problem was they lived underwater most of the time. And as a drow, I cannot breathe underwater. So what we did was we kidnapped one of the Grung, just a standard
01:15:03
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One of the standard workers infusing my soul with him My soul left my body and now that grudge which his name was the Dean We are one we we are like ermic we are many but you are one So now but when I assassinated my target it caused a revolt between a giant grudge population who was coming out of the water to get me now and
01:15:32
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And my League of Assassins abandoned me. So now I'm stuck in this with two of those fuck and Yeah, I guess soul knife was the best one because not only do I got range now what naturally but I can even like basically teleport here and there so it was just One of my favorite characters and it currently am playing still That's pretty cool that is very cool. Yeah, I
01:16:03
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But then, of course, with half of the Storm Herald, just simply that, yeah, you are an angry Thor. That is the best. Who wouldn't want channel lightning? Yeah. I mean, in terms of barbarian, I'm always torn between ancestral guardian and Storm Herald. Those are my two. I love them. They're great. Those are the main ones to really go for. Yeah. They're really cool.
01:16:33
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Yeah. Alex, do you have a specific one that you like? Oh, god. A favorite class and subclass? I mean, I think I've said my class, my favorite class hat was, like, Monk, because it's my first one. It just is fun. I did enjoy playing Tazroff. I really did. Subclasses is difficult, because I've not actually, well, that's a lie. I've used, like, seven, eight subclasses.
01:17:00
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It's yours, isn't it? It's yours. My homebrew subclass is obviously my favorite subclass. I love it so much, but to be fair, I have for the campaign we're in there on Tuesdays, which is starting back up, I have homebrewed another subclass for that.
01:17:19
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Yeah, it's a paladin subclass. It's called the Oath of Space. Very snazzy name. It's space related, believe it or not. Oh, so not as in like empty space, as in like space space. Like space in the sky. Yeah. But, oh, God. Favourite subclass? It depends in the circumstances you use it.
01:17:45
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rune knight is cool i like rune knight there's a lot of things you can do so it's like uh uh what is it path of the totem barrel or something like that the barbarian one yeah totally different rages totem warrior yeah something like that something like that that one's cool but my favorite so far is probably uh tasrosh one the ascendant dragon
01:18:09
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I genuinely really enjoyed that subclass. Like it's a fun subclass. Like you get dragon breaths and you get a lot. I think I had like four at level 10. I like, well four discluding my dragonborn dragon breath. You get to infuse your punches with
01:18:32
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different elements of damage, which helps because if there's an enemy that's weak to that element of damage, obviously I'll be able to hit them and do it as well. It's a fun one. I really enjoyed that one. It's probably my favorite at the moment. It's a very underrated class, I think, for monks, especially. Yeah, definitely the way of the Ascended Dragon. Yeah. Cool.
01:18:54
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I think we can all agree the worst monk subclass is the four elements one. It sounds so cool and it's just trash. Just get rid of it. It's shit. It is so bad. Obviously, the most appealing one when you're a monk is the way of the, I think, drunken master. Is that what it's called? Drunken master. Yeah. Everyone loves the drunken master. You can't go wrong with the drunken master. It's a good song.
01:19:23
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I've got a character I really want to apply for that subclass. So he's this Elven general who for years led an amazing Ranger. Ranger Rogue, I think I've made him, incredible general, led the Elves to battle loads of times. The last time he did it, the entire army got wiped out, but he did win the war.
01:19:45
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So it's kind of like the floor is if he ever meets an elven person, they either love him or they fucking hate him. But he is vowed to never pick up a bow again and he's drunk as shit. So he's become the level one drunken master. That's that's the kind of I want to play, but I've not had a chance. Going back a little bit to you, Alex. First, love that idea. That's gonna be a great idea. But
01:20:13
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Drunken master all the way but because you said runite that actually reminded me that the reason why I'm called blood moon in the server is because that was my original character's name was a Baldwin blood moon who this operate here Mind the crappy camera. I have a custom of one of my favorite characters. Oh, that's so cool and her she was a ruin night Now she was a fairy
01:20:44
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Uh, definitely, uh, something I just kind of made up on spot. I'll fight her fairy, uh, runite. That's so cool though. Being a runite, you're, you're connected with a giant. So I just showed that for irony because she's three feet tall. That's so cool though. Like, Oh, the best part is, uh, cause I got it off the side. I'm trying to find a way to put it onto the sculpture here is because she had the sword, uh, a flying great sword.
01:21:12
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So she would cast her word, and she would have this little sword here that would fly with her as she flies into the sky. So not only is she flying, but this flying sword is, and because you can make things super giant, she becomes this giant with this giant, this great sword in the sky. Oh, that is cool. Yeah, that is cool. Brains hell upon them. That's cool as shit. And she was OP because I played her as range, so she wouldn't get hit as much.
01:21:41
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while keeping that sword because that sword can go i think 60 feet so i can fight them with that sword at range and still shoot a bow damn fair enough cool um definitely a great subclass yeah i think that's that's everything uh
01:22:01
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01:22:29
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So I'll get you those views by myself if I have to. Yeah. Yeah. If there's if there's anyone else you want to shout out, like a small creator that you might know, Derek, go ahead. You can shout. Yeah, go for it. Let's see. First of all, Tommy, where are you? Come on. Yeah. So I want them on today as well.
01:22:50
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It's a shame, yeah. He's new to DMing, but he's very good. And hell, even Zarthax, Derek, he's my other DM. Yeah, two Derricks, two Derricks. Shout out to him as well. He should be more active. Come on, watch the podcast. Cool. Yeah.
01:23:16
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01:23:37
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I think next week is going to be, it's going to be us two. Next episode, after this one, we'll just be in Yuan. Doing some recaps, that'll be fun. Yeah, we'll do a nice chat. Yeah. Well, we'll find some things to talk about. Maybe we'll do some, we'll find some homebrew rules or something and chat about some homebrew rules. Definitely, definitely. But yeah, thanks for coming on. We'll see everyone. Yeah, it's been great having you. We'll see everyone. See you next week. Bye.