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Nosferatu
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The year was still 2024. The Crew received an invitation for them to join Count Orlok for brunch. Ehh, why not?
Have you seen Nosferatu? Was this the greatest vampire movie ever made? Was the casting a perfect accident? Do you think the original cast would have done a better job if they didn’t have to bail on their roles? Should Enrique know what a Harry Styles is? Should you research who someone is even if they’re not in the movie? Is Willem Dafoe the same character in every role? Did Julia deserve the hate she received for saying that? Is Bill Skarsgård the perfect man for these types of roles? Did he carry the cross for us by wearing that glasses with the nose disguise looking mustache throughout the whole film? What age did Ellen call out to Nosferatu? Did she “heard about him” and that’s why? If you’re single and in your mid 30’s, is that when you start considering calling out to Nosferatu? Is this a top 10 movie of the year?
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Transcript
Introduction and Star Wars Voice Acting Experience
00:00:00
Speaker
I did voice acting in a lot of the Star Wars games. Yeah. Anything to you? I played a few of them. I like Olivia Husky a lot. All right. Yeah. Let's get this started.
Exploring Nosferatu: History and Relevance
00:00:11
Speaker
Another episode of what we saw last night. Vampiric edition. We're getting into Nosferatu this time. Don't need a warm up. But um just to kind of get the conversation going. Have you guys seen the 1922 version? Not in like...
00:00:31
Speaker
in like 20 years. Yeah, I haven't seen it recently. It's on my list. Back when we started the podcast, I started, like the first time we started, not even like the reboot, but like the first time we started the podcast, I started a list of vampire movies that obviously was on there, but it was never streaming, ever, ever, ever streaming. It is now.
00:00:59
Speaker
Right, right, right. So like, I do have to see it, but I haven't seen it in a long time. I recommend
Robert Eggers and His Passion for Nosferatu
00:01:05
Speaker
both or all three, I guess. Nurse Faratu, The Vampyr. That's the Warner Herzog movie from 79. It's awesome.
00:01:17
Speaker
um Obviously, Nurse Faratu in 1922. Great. And then we got this movie, 2024, Robert Eggers, Nurse Faratu.
00:01:28
Speaker
When you first heard that he was making this, did you feel that we needed another Nosferatu slash Dracula? I did because he's like one of my top favorite directors. And I also just enjoy like watching the same films a lot. It's kind of like when whenever like a new like exorcism movie comes out, like demonic possession thing, people are like, oh, there's so many of these. And I'm like, keep it coming. I could watch this forever.
00:01:57
Speaker
So I was really excited when it was first announced. I was like, let's fucking go. Like the fucking 10th Dracula movie this year. Who fucking cares? Let's go. I'm not gonna lie. When I first heard Nosferatu was coming out, I thought the same thing. I was
Atmospheric Elements and Filmmaking Style
00:02:14
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like, fuck yeah. Let's do this.
00:02:17
Speaker
But then here was the problem. I heard Bill Skarsgar was going to be No Farratu and I was like, I'm already biased. Like I just, I already was going to like it regardless. Cause once they an announced like the cast, I was like, okay, I'm going to fucking love it. So just hurry up and fucking make it and let's get on with it. Cause I have to see it. I felt, I felt similar. Like,
00:02:47
Speaker
i I love Bram Stoker's Dracula and I love everything about Nosferatu. So when they were like, we're making another one, great. just and And especially because it was Robert Eggers doing it. um Robert Eggers, this is like his passion project. He's been talking about making this movie for years and basically He was going to make this movie whether or not he was in filmmaking or not. Growing up, this was something that really imprinted on him. He's made remade it as like a good child and would reshoot the scenes and just has a deep, profoundund profound respect for Nosferatu. So when it came down to it, it was a matter of like when it was going to happen, not if it was going to happen. um He almost got it done in 2016.
00:03:42
Speaker
had to do the lighthouse instead, not that that was a problem. And things just didn't line up. And so yeah, so like, this was a long time coming. um How do you guys think it looks like specifically like Drictorial atmosphere? How do you think he did with the movie? And what other types of movies do you want to see him do in the future?
00:04:08
Speaker
I thought that atmosphere of this was great. I think it was perfect that it came out on Christmas. Cause there were so many like snowy scenes and you really felt like. This was happening today. Yeah. Like, and I really tried my best to like let myself be immersed. And even though I wasn't scared, I tried to almost like pretend that I was scared to kind of really get into the mood. But you really felt the feeling of being like cold and afraid. It really put you in that spot.
00:04:36
Speaker
There was a sense of like eeriness throughout the whole movie. There was like this, I don't know, it's like, it felt like the whole movie felt like what a dream would probably feel like, like a bad dream. And it reminded me, there's there's a, scene like in the opening sequence of the movie, Sweeney Todd, where they're like,
00:05:03
Speaker
You're like flying through the city, like swooping through like all the streets. It it kind of reminded me of that. Yeah, this the the I guess if if if I were to like think of the atmosphere of this movie, you know, it it it did what it had to do to make you feel like you were in that time. You know, like I did over here, like the blue tint. I don't remember who mentioned it, but you know, like so much of the movie kind of, it felt like I was looking outside in the wintertime. you know like The movie did feel like that. And i I feel like there was enough silence in the movie too, where it just it was eerie all around. I think the movie was eerie all around. Yeah, like, atmospherically, they did a good job of creating like this sense of foreboding,
00:06:01
Speaker
and isolation and coldness and like a very much like a good play on all the senses because we're experiencing something visual, but we're having other senses um being like played with because it was just well executed. So yeah, like I loved it and I would love to see him do more in like this, like, like I love, like I love the witch.
00:06:29
Speaker
So like I love when he does a period piece. Yeah. The Witch is one of my other favorite movies. And I love a period piece. But more than anything, I love a period piece that's done well. And this was like out of the park. like I always nitpick like hair, makeup, costumes. This was pretty much spot on perfect. I am not going to pretend like I know what a Robert Eggers is. So I did look it up.
00:06:59
Speaker
to see what his um what his movies were. And besides the ones you mentioned, he also did the Northman, which I really liked a lot. um Another period piece, you know, and I guess to follow up on like, what would you like him to do in the future? This is, I think this is where he, again, this is all he's done. So we don't know if he can adventure out or not, but stick with it. I think these kind of,
00:07:30
Speaker
these kind of movies, because if you think about it, they're all pretty dark and how they look, they're pretty dark and how they feel. um The lighthouse was black and white. It was, it feels like the whole movie took place at night all the time. You know, the witches kind of like, like they all have like that dingy look, you know what I'm saying? Like that, like Yeah, but I feel like it feels realistic in a way that you're not you're not like, oh, I'm watching a black and white movie. It feels like, specifically the witch is like very dark in tone, but it feels realistic to where you feel like you're just in like a cloudy, rainy area. It doesn't feel like it's like mood lighting. You feel really immersed and you feel like you're living out in the woods and it's just dreary and like foreboding.
00:08:24
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Yeah, I agree 100%. Yeah, I think like, and it's not like I normally would ask the question like, who else would have directed this, but since this was such a deep passion project, that um he was the only person, I think, I mean, he was the only person that was going to do this because he was going to do it regardless. And I'm glad to see him finally get that after years of trying.
00:08:52
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And I remember you were telling me in the car, what you said earlier that like, he didn't give a fuck he was going to make this movie regardless. yeah And he got the opportunity and sometimes it's like that. It's kind of like that saying they say like you never want to meet your heroes because they always disappoint you.
00:09:11
Speaker
And something like this, could' have he could have just loved so much where he could have done a bad job. And it was the complete opposite. you know It was something he loved so much. And I did the probably the best job you'll get from anybody making this movie. like i think this
Casting Choices: Impact and Alternatives
00:09:31
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is I don't think anyone would have made it better. I think this movie genuinely was one of those movies that were just, it was perfect. like Maybe there's flaws, I don't know, I don't read books, so I don't know what a book has to say about this, but as far as, you know, so there's gotta be flaws in it somewhere, I'm sure, but it's perfect in every, you knew there was passion about it, you know, and and you're gonna talk about it soon, but like everything fell in line, like the casting fell in line perfectly, um the the visuals fell in line perfectly,
00:10:10
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It's just every, it was the perfect scenario and it worked out. And um' um'm I'm happy that this was like, ah I'm going to do this. I could fucking die next year, but this is going to get done. And he does it and it's a phenomenal job versus like, Ooh, you can tell you kind of, we saw a lot of passion projects this year yeah and they were all bad. Yeah. and I don't know if all of them were, but yeah.
00:10:36
Speaker
yeah We saw a lot of fashion projects and a lot of them were were bad. I was going to say, do you guys think that this would have been as good if it were made 10 years ago? ah do you need Or do you think he needed to get he not that recognition and like the... I think he needed to... I don't want to say recognition, but I want to say he needed to hone the craft. Because he himself would say he's gotten he gets better every film.
00:11:07
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And I think like we are seeing him at his best with, and and like, it's also like he's worked with the same cinematographers a few times. So it's like they're getting to know each other more to pull off the visuals. I think he needed the time to grow as a filmmaker and same with the the crew around him. The thing is the movies he made before this,
00:11:35
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Um, even though I may have at some point said I didn't like the lighthouse as much. Um, I go back on that statement cause I did rewatch it a few months back and you know, the, the, I think three is three that I just saw, but we'll just say the three movies that he's made prior to this, you know, we're, we're like, it was him practicing to get this one to be perfect. And I respect that because maybe he could have done it 10 years ago.
00:12:04
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you know, um um copyrights and all that other stuff, maybe not, but like, let's just say if everything was like, yep, sure, yeah, you can do this in 2014. And this was like his first movie, I don't think it would be anywhere as good as this one was in 2024. And it's, it's interesting, because like almost the entire movie, not the entire movie, but a lot of it was recast. And I do not think it would have hit the same if it had the original casting.
00:12:33
Speaker
There was supposed to be Harry Styles in this and that guy, I'm sorry, but he can't act. I don't even know what that is. Like he would not have been good in this role and it, it might've still been like a phenomenal movie and he just would have given a bad performance and it would not have hit the same. Let's get it. So this was, um, Anya Taylor Joy was originally Cass, she signed on in 2016 to do this movie. And it just, because it was delayed so long and like, there's a lot of love and respect between Onion Taylor Joy and Robert Eggers. She went and saw it opening day and said she loved it. And um she couldn't make the time commitment because it has been drawn out and changed production companies and
00:13:29
Speaker
well A lot of things have happened to make this movie so she couldn't do it fill the time commitment because of a number of things ah Daniel Day Lewis was signed on and he got replaced by William Defoe Harry Styles got dropped for Holt So like yeah overall do you think any of them would have improved the movie?
00:13:55
Speaker
No, no, that's, that's the thing. I think it was all like a big happy accident because every, every change made it better. And that's what I was saying earlier. It's like every single thing worked out how it was supposed to work out. Like he did it right by sticking with it and changes happen. Yeah. Probably would have wanted some of them, but like like fuck is a Daniel Dave Lewis, you know, like,
00:14:23
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oh Daniel Day-Lewis. I know, but I'm saying like, I mean, you got the perfect crazy fucking off the wall person to play this crazy Alex Jones back in the 1800s character. you know like Why wasn't he cast first? It amazes me, especially- Daniel Day-Lewis is a at a time was a bigger name. I don't want to say like he's a massive, so like you're going for a better name. And you also, the thing is like sometimes better name. Okay. Here's a perfect example where better names didn't fit Denzel and gladiators too. I thought he was all right.
00:15:17
Speaker
No, no, you could, I personally think that was the wrong casting, not because of, it just was the wrong casting. Like he's such a phenomenal actor and I've seen so many of his movies and he can, like his range is, you know, top notch. And I'm sure Daniel Day-Lewis is, I'm not saying like he's not, but I'm saying like, I'm sure,
00:15:44
Speaker
His is to the point where he would have done a good job. But let's be honest here. I mean, you mean to tell me William Defoe's performance could have been better with a better actor, quote, unquote? ah youre I this your actor though? Well, Penny, Daniel Day-Lewis is the greatest actor that has ever lived, according to like almost everybody.
00:16:11
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And I don't know about that. I'm going off of what I hear. like When I listen to like different people talk, everyone speaks so highly of Daniel Day-Lewis. And you know he also has like a very limited selection of movies he does after, you know I don't know, but the 2010s. So like yeah, maybe that's smart to get the big name. But let's be honest here. i mean Who would have done a better job at that role? You know like and I'm not saying you said he would have but but I'm like who would have done a better job Like who would have done it? The thing is Nicholas whole already has that in the bag, you know um When he you know, he already has the the whole I've been in a vampire movie thing in the bag, you know, so he
00:17:02
Speaker
Why not? That's a great,
Willem Dafoe: Typecasting and Career Overview
00:17:04
Speaker
I think that's a great, like I think that was a great pickup. Um, I don't, again, I don't know what a Harry Styles is. I think he's like a guy with some, like probably nice hair and maybe he's done some things I've seen. I don't know, but there's no fucking way he would have been. Do you like strawberries on a summer evening? Is that a question or is this like a bigger? Yeah, it's a question.
00:17:32
Speaker
um I don't really like strawberries at all. Yeah, I'm not a fan. I know. All right. What is he like? He's just an English guy. I think he he was, he's the big loss. Like Anya Taylor Joy would have done an amazing job. That doesn't take away from Depp's performance. She was amazing. We'll talk about that. Daniel Day-Lewis would have done an amazing job, even though William DeFoe is the right choice. But Harry Styles, like,
00:18:01
Speaker
That's the biggest. That would have been a tragedy. Yeah. And I don't want to be that guy, but you knew we were at some point going to record this episode. You also got like six computers sitting in front of you. Don't tell me you don't know what a Harry Styles is. No clue. Figure it out. Don't mean to. He wasn't in the movie. I don't mean to. And that is fair. And I respect that. Yeah. Wasn't in the movie. I don't need to know who you were because it didn't.
00:18:31
Speaker
it wouldn't I don't think it would have been a better choice. you know I definitely, hands down, don't think Daniel Day-Lewis would have done a better job. i I genuinely, in my heart, do not think he would have done a better job than William Defoe would have.
00:18:52
Speaker
and and that's just like You're right. We're living in the year of Defoe. I fucking love that guy. He's had a great year. But let's think, let's, let's think of this characters. Cause I know this was like, uh, like a funny thing. Julia mentioned how people were attacking her cause of a statement she made. and I won't say it unless you want me to, but in this okay. So like there was, I'll be right back. Okay. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll be back. Okay. So there's this, like, there's this thing that I guess people genuinely hate.
00:19:28
Speaker
being like tight casted and stuff, right? And we know, we know this like a thing and I get it, you know, so you don't want people to just be like, this is all you're good at. But sometimes you need to see the reality of things and the reality of things are you are very good at this, you know? um Here's a good example. So like in Tropic Thunder, obviously all of Tropic Thunder was a joke, but in Tropic Thunder,
00:19:58
Speaker
Jack Black's character, Jeff Portnoy, is super pissed off that all they do is cast him in The Fatties, The Fatties 2, or what was it called? The Fatties Fart 2 or something. And and like you know the the point of his character is is he's just like upset that they don't think he can be a ah real actor. They're like, no. like you're just the fatties the fatties too which was like a a a funny take on like the clumps the clumps too you know and and I get it you don't want people to think that this is all you're good at I understand that part but if that's what you excel at and there's a role and they're like look we don't want the best actor we want the
00:20:54
Speaker
best person that can play this role the best. I think people need to cherish that because there's a certain level of not just acknowledgement, but respect. And if you think of William Defoe in Nosferatu, right? All Let's look back at some of his characters. I didn't see ah kinds of kindness yet, but I will jump back to poor things, right?
00:21:24
Speaker
yeah would Also, I'm going to throw it out there. He was in he was really good in Saturday night as the TV executive and he wasn't like crazy at all. so the yeah I'm just saying, he acted a very straight role. It didn't have him going over the top for people who were like, well, he goes over the top and everything. So just a side note.
00:21:47
Speaker
Right. and And the thing is, like i think I think if you put him in other roles, like even Jack Black, Jack Black's been in some roles that aren't goofy Jack Black roles, right? Yeah. But oh yeah if you so if you think of some of his most memorable performances that like always stick, I mean, look at the Green Goblin, right? When he played that. Yeah. And then look at how he played it.
00:22:13
Speaker
in like 2022 or whenever No Way Home came out, the last Spider-Man movie when everyone, the multiverse happened and all that stuff. He was amazing in that movie because when they originally cast him, you know, it it was like a good casting to do, but then they knew, okay, you have to be unhinged for this because of everything that's happened throughout, right? So like you think of that particular version of the Green Goblin, you think of, you know, how he was in poor things. And then you see him here and it's like, I understand. I get it. I get why he would be in this, you know? And I will honestly, I don't think, again, maybe a more known actor, a more like hot name would have done a good job. I don't think anyone would have done a better job if that makes sense. Yeah, that's right. And I agree with that.
00:23:12
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And like he's been in so many great movies and he's voiced so many characters and he's overall great. So I, I agree. Like he, yeah, he, he was perfect for this, this role. And I love, I love what William Defoe this year. He just got his, um, star on the Hollywood walk of fame. Good for him.
00:23:40
Speaker
I just, I don't think I deserve the hate that I got for the comments that I made. You deserve that and more. I felt like I made a valid point. And granted, I did exaggerate for emphasis. Not every single character he has played is the same. But you can't tell me that this wasn't the same character as poor things, as the lighthouse, as the Green Goblin.
00:24:10
Speaker
Mm hmm. But he excels in these roles. I, right. And I similar never ever said that he was a bad actor. I think he's a phenomenal actor. But when I made the comment, every Willem Dafoe role is the same character. I have never been so attacked in my life. I was crucified.
00:24:34
Speaker
deserve I got cooked in a group chat. Like you cannot believe my best friend texted me. It was like, I hate you over this. Here's another good example of deserve a little bit of what Julia mentioned, right? Here's two other people that you can say have the same role in everything, but don't, you know what I'm saying? But like have had other roles where they're not.
00:24:58
Speaker
Hold on, but like Nicolas Cage, right? When you think of Nicolas Cage, you think like, okay, this fucking guy is off the... But then I just recently saw Family Man. That fucking movie was phenomenal. I mean, I've seen it before. Family Man adaptation.
00:25:15
Speaker
Here's another one though. Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey's another guy. all his characters are the same but then if you put them in another movie where but then you say like oh number 23 like and I and I get that prestige because I said i'm I made the comparison I was like Ari this is a whole word now it's like the same thing as Johnny Depp like you're gonna tell me almost all of his roles aren't just Jack Sparrow you're gonna look at me and tell me that I'm wrong and my friend turns around and they're like What about the secret window? And I'm like, man, shut up. Like, you know what I'm saying. Nightmare on Elm Street, you know? like Yeah. And they were like, what about Nightmare on Elm Street? I'm like, when he was like a baby and had never been in anything before, but he didn't invent the character yet. But as soon as like he invented that persona. The thing is, though, the thing is. Brango. Yeah. Like, you're telling me you're telling me that's not Willy Wonka and that's not the same and Willy Wonka isn't the same. Absolutely not. darl It is. But here's here's the thing, though. Here's the thing.
00:26:14
Speaker
and And regardless whether it is, whether it isn't, at the end of the day, that's what he is perfect at, you know? Like these are the things that they are the best at. So if you get cast in a role like this, sometimes it's for the better because I already know what I'm gonna get from you. Like if you put Jim Carrey,
00:26:43
Speaker
in a silly body humor type of role. You could say, this is like every Jim Carrey's role. ah No fucking shit, Sherlock, because he is phenomenal in it. You know what I'm saying? Like Ace Ventura and the Mask, same character. Same exact character. Two amazing movies. You know, Nicolas Cage.
00:27:10
Speaker
same kind of concept. You know, you think of Nicolas Cage, you think of some fucking crazy guy, but then you watch some of his other movies and you're like, yeah, and then some, but the same butthole with like a brain dead take is going to come out of the woodwork and be like, what about the wicker man? Like, or like some bullshit. But the thing is, like, if you're going to make, here's a, here's a perfect example of the unbearable weight of massive talent, whatever it's called. Right.
00:27:40
Speaker
That is a perfect like representation of Nicholas Cage is fucking off the walls, but he doesn't want to be recognized as it, but then he realizes this is what I'm good at. You know what I'm saying? But then he goes around and he makes a movie like Pig. Right. where Yeah. Like, which is an amazing movie, such a good movie, and he's not awful. like There's range there, there's range of William Defoe. the thing the the more so the More so, I think the thing I'm um'm i'm trying to say is like, i get I get people thinking, oh, what the fuck do you mean? William Defoe can play a different character. Yeah. Who can't? They're trained actors, you know? But because he is perfect at this,
00:28:35
Speaker
Who cares? Yeah, it's like that movie inside. He played a different a completely different character in that. But you can't sit here and tell me that like he hasn't played 10 of the same goal, at least. And Pat mentioned a another. what Which one you just mentioned, Pat? I'm sorry. I just for Saturday Night. Oh, yeah. Saturday Night. Yeah. So like saturday I haven't seen Saturday Night yet, either. But like in in Saturday Night, he says he plays like a a TV producer or something. He's the executive. The executive. He's not some fucking You know, like that's not what he's doing in Saturday night, you know, so like like but I and I bet you he wishes he was I'm sure he could just probably probably He's like he probably sits at home and is like man. I haven't played a little fucking freak in forever I'm so like look look at in kinds of kindness He kisses Jesse poem And then so like he's having a wild year like he's doing everything he's having fun. Yeah, and the thing is I
00:29:36
Speaker
Okay. Again, I can understand the backlash that's in Julia, but at the same time, I can understand that, but at the same time, it's like, all right, he does like his better roles are that, you know, like, what are his most known roles? They're that. So,
00:30:03
Speaker
it it it makes sense that, you know, you would think that you would think or even say something like that because these, but that's what he's good at. You know, that's, that's the one thing that's like, personally, my bread and butter is bread and butter. yeah I'm just a simple
Lily-Rose Depp's Performance
00:30:24
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man. His bread and butter is going literally everywhere. Cause even though he's,
00:30:31
Speaker
Kookie and off the wall and whatever you want to say in all his roles There is still an element of something different in each of them where it's not the same Kookie and off the wall like Who he was in the newest spider-man? Wasn't who he was in the first spider-man wasn't who he was in lighthouse wasn't who he was in this one, you know, there's just enough differences where You're not like, oh, I'm watching the Green Goblin. You know, you're like, oh, I'm watching William Defoe. You know, not like, oh, uh, I'm watching Knight Rider or, I mean, Ghost Rider or, oh, I'm watching Con Air again. No, it's, oh, I'm watching Nicolas Cage again. You know, you, you, you get just enough different, it different, differentness is not a word, difference in each, in each of these similar roles.
00:31:30
Speaker
where you're not thinking I'm watching the role. i'm watching you You're thinking I'm watching Nicolas Cage and how he acts and in the certain parts that he's great at. you know I'm watching Willem Dafoe and how he acts in the parts that he's great at is what um you know is what i'm what I'm trying to say. So like I'm not... Well, we'll have to have a full Nicolas Cage episode where we talk about his great range.
00:31:58
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um
00:32:01
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because, yeah. what um'm why but How do you guys, sorry, sorry, go ahead, Pat. I was gonna say, how do you guys think Depp did filling in for, I mean, Julia, I wanna hear your takes on it, cause I know you've said them before. Yeah, 10 out of 10, I thought she killed it and I'm, I was surprised cause I haven't seen Depp in a lot of things, but I don't know that Anya Taylor Joy could have given the same performance. I'm not convinced. I think, like I said, I think this was a happy accident. I feel like it was all the better for being recast. Like um the the moves that Lily Rose Depp was doing in this film, like phenomenal. Like the- The session moves.
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah, like the full body, like acting, like seizures, it was incredible. Like the, and just like, like almost like the rhythm of the movements were like so chilling and like genuinely disturbing, but also in a way that felt real. Cause like I said, I feel like the immersion in this film was really good because it was right on the cusp of like, right on the cusp of paranormal where you're watching it and it's so scary.
00:33:31
Speaker
And it's so over the top, but it's just believable enough that you could say like, oh, this could really be happening to her. And people around her would think it was a seizure, and but it's like i want to say like, yeah, go ahead. Like, I, you know, I, I, I, not that I i wasn't rooting against her, but yeah, she hasn't acted a lot. We, we, she's girl two in tusks.
00:33:59
Speaker
She's in the thing with... um She was in Silent Night, which she was like very average. She was average in everything she was in. The the thing with The Weeknd and then she really... I don't know if it was Robert Eggers bringing it out of her or whatever she did. Maybe it's her maturing as a person because she's 25 now. Whatever it was, she did a phenomenal job. and But for her, he has like, there was a lot of doubt. she People were like, oh, you know, she's just getting roles cause she's Johnny Debs daughter. And that might be the case for like some of the other things, but this was earned and it was great. And I hope we see more of this and less of the other stuff. And I don't remember if I was talking about this at work with Julia today or if we mentioned it in the last episode, cause I don't remember the last episode what I said, but
00:34:59
Speaker
um there was parts in the movie when i'm watching her and i'm genuinely concerned for her as the person not the character because she's doing some motions with her body she's like giving you this like possess you know, she's giving you this possessed performance where she's like going all out physically doing these performance. And there was a part in, I think it's like near the end where her eyes like roll to the back of her head. And if you've ever tried that just for fun, just for like shits and giggles, that shit hurts, man. You know, like, and I'm sure that wasn't called in first take.
00:35:48
Speaker
I'm sure there was take after take after take after take, you know, so they're like, and I'm just, um I'm speaking more so on like her, her amazing performance. Cause she did things physically where it was so believable. And I'm like, I'm like, has anyone checked up on her since filming? Cause I'm, I don't, you know, like you want me to give her a call? Yeah. Like see if she's doing okay for body feels like, but like,
00:36:19
Speaker
you know But the the I'm saying that because like her performance was like so believable that she was possessed. you
Bill Skarsgård's Transformation for the Role
00:36:25
Speaker
know And I think that's you know that plays a lot into everything else in the movie you know because it's it it all fits perfectly. you know like Her performance, her effort in in her performance, you know it just it fits everything perfectly, I think.
00:36:46
Speaker
Yeah, she really sent it and did not, she did not hold anything back. She put her whole self out there. Yeah. No, I agree.
00:37:00
Speaker
Um, let's talk about Bill Skarsner. So like he, um, is this Bill? I get all the scars. are Yeah. still Yeah.
00:37:15
Speaker
All right. So like he did a lot for this role. Um, he wanted this role. They gets awarded it. Um, he lost a considerable amount of weight for it. He went go through over six hours of makeup and, um,
00:37:37
Speaker
he, he like, he trained with this Icelandic singer opera singer to change his voice. um He did as much as he could to immerse himself in the world um He did have a lot of drawbacks though like when he first saw the costume like concepts he was worried and the quote is I was worried I was gonna look like the fucking Grinch or a fucking goblin and He didn't like it at all and then everything fell into place and he he loved it um He
00:38:11
Speaker
was the top person for Robert to get to play this role, to play Count Warlock. And um yeah, kind of want to get you guys, what are your guys thoughts on him? How'd he do? He is another guy who loves to play a little freaking freak and we love him for it. And we all know, like he he ate up Pennywise the clown. So thank god he's he's built for this type of role where he plays like a little fucking monster. like even i up patent a car Even though he didn't have the makeup and the weird stuff, he was a little fucking freaking barbarian too. I feel like it was as beautiful as he is to look at, I feel like Bill Skarsgard should also continue to play monsters. Yeah, of course. He wants to. yeah And I love that. I think he should be cast as literally every single monster that people have in their movies.
00:39:11
Speaker
or he should be at the top of every single list, and then he can just choose which one he prefers to do. He was probably fucking tapping on Robert Eggers' window in the middle of the night, whispering to him. You know he was going like this and shit, just randomly. We can't see what I'm doing, obviously, but... When reaching out his long, yellow bony fingers. like Here's the thing about Bill Skarsgard.
00:39:38
Speaker
He, obviously we said it, you know, he's perfect in this stuff, but he goes through a lot of shit to fit into. I mean, Pennywise was a lot of makeup. And then obviously I only know this cause I read the the notes. This was like six hours of makeup a day. And then we were, Julian, me and Julia were talking about the Grinch and how Jim Carrey hate that fucking role. It ruined his life. Cause 10 hours of makeup.
00:40:08
Speaker
plus eight hours of shooting, plus 10 hours tomorrow of makeup, plus 10 hours of shooting. A lot of times we don't take that into consideration and you know six or so hours of makeup, then you have to shoot and you have to give possibly the best performance ever um as a vampire and then do it again tomorrow, and then do it again tomorrow, and then do it again tomorrow. you know it's like You have to give this guy the respect that he deserved. Not that we don't, but I'm saying like you have to give this guy the respect that he deserves because honestly, who else would have been better? I do not know. I don't think anyone. I would have played that role better than he would have. There's like a few actors I can think of that have maybe like the physicality that do like a lot of
00:41:08
Speaker
playing like weird creatures like the the really tall guy like someone with like Marfan syndrome that has like the weird lanky body, but they don't have like the acting skills that Bill has.
00:41:23
Speaker
And I don't know what his experience was like, but I can only imagine him sitting in the makeup chair for like six hours being like giddy about it. And like, he's probably sitting for the whole time like, heh heh heh. But also think of the sacrifices he has to do. Like he had to walk around with that fucked up mustache, you know, for months on end. And like, he took that sacrifice for us, you know? He had to look at himself as giddy as he was and giggling throughout the whole makeup, like he cannot wait. And then they're like, all right, Bill, just the last finishing touch and they plop on that fucking like glasses with the nose disguise mustache. Yeah. and And it's like, but he carried that cross for us, you know? He did. I want to say, so during the whole makeup thing, like he was getting into character, like
00:42:20
Speaker
you know, mentally put himself, I think he referred to as like conjuring evil and like turning evil. And apparently he would just torment Nicholas Holt on set. Like Nicholas Holt was afraid of him and afraid of like the costume and he would chase him around. You should be. You should be fucking terrified of him. Yeah. I think that that's just like a funny side note. He did a great job of it. Um,
00:42:50
Speaker
Robert Eggers worked with his brother, Alex, in The Northman. And who knows, maybe we get Robert Eggers making another movie and bringing in another Scarsguard. So and he apparently would scare like Bill Hader and in it also.
00:43:08
Speaker
oh Which I think is is, the thing is, because he's having, He's having the time of his life. I'm normally against that type of stuff. I don't like like the method acting stuff. I don't like
Film's Box Office and Audience Reception
00:43:22
Speaker
where um I'm trying to think of like Blade Wesley slimes played blade. He would apparently leave sticky notes To the cast like please don't talk to me and then he will sign it blade Yeah, i I normally I don't like when actors torment other actors for the sake of like
00:43:40
Speaker
getting into character, but I feel like he's having fun. He's not, he's not doing it to help their performance. He's doing it because he's like having a good time. And I guess that's not any better, but it's just like, he's probably, he probably like would walk up to him, the phone be like, watch this. And then just be like, you know, they had lunch together and they were just like fiending overall, like the little freaks they get to play. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I,
00:44:12
Speaker
I don't know who you would have put. The thing is, his character design, like the actual design of his character was terrifying.
00:44:28
Speaker
you know it it he wasn't He wasn't like the original, but he was like the original, if that makes sense. and he There was everything about it was like his actual costume, his actual get up was just perfect. like His hands looked like a what ah what like I think a real vampire's hands would look like. you know Because we were talking about this at Julia's Christmas party. I don't know why we're talking about vampires in Christmas, but
00:45:04
Speaker
Like what would you rather be a vampire or werewolf? And like, obviously I would rather be a werewolf, but you know, you think about like some of this, like some of the stuff I said about vampires is like they, they're lanky. They're, you know, they're like fragile in a way. Cause they cannot be out during certain times of the day and stuff. And like, he looks like a guy that never, ever, ever, ever steps outside.
00:45:32
Speaker
Like not just because of the sun, but like. Just like in his normal life. He does not, yeah. He does not lift anything. Like he just looks like a guy who spent thousands of years skipping like any kind of physical activity whatsoever because he's so busy vampiring. You know, he's so busy counting. Um, yeah. Also, I just wanted to, um,
00:46:00
Speaker
William Defoe also played Count Orlock in 2000. in a I forgot the name of the movie. a Shadow of a Vampire. Good for him. So they got two Count Orlocks were on set. I think that's really cool. Something just fun to have. I wonder if they trade in notes probably. Overall, Bill was the only person I can imagine doing it.
00:46:29
Speaker
um This movie right now, it's got 19 million. It released on Christmas. we're We saw it on Christmas. We're recording this a few days after. Obviously, the ah the full numbers for the weekend aren't coming in yet, so we'll see how much that does in the box office. Unfortunately, it had the misfortune of going up against um a live-action Disney movie, which
00:47:01
Speaker
whether or not they're good or not, they generate insane amounts of money and dominate the box office. So there's that. It was made on a $50 million dollars budget, which pretty like cost effective. I think they maximize it. What were you guys overall thoughts on the movie or Julia, do you want to do a quick rundown or do we need to? Cause it is the story of Dracula. I don't know. I don't think we need to. I do think we need to talk about the mustache in the room for a minute.
00:47:30
Speaker
All right. Yeah, you want to get it. I was going to say that as the ender, but let's get into it. I just want to point out that that was such a deliberate choice because he had no other hair or facial hair. So that leads me to believe, you know, he's clean shaven besides the mustache. So you're telling me count or lock got up every single day and shaved every inch of his body.
00:48:01
Speaker
and left the mustache. That's gotta to be the case, right? Because you don't you don't lose all the hair on your body except the mustache. He had a very little tiny bit in the back.
00:48:14
Speaker
He had like a Charlie Brown situation. Yeah, he had like a Homer Simpson, more so. Okay, yeah, that little squiggle. Yeah, he had like a Homer Simpson. And when you told me that earlier, I didn't even think of it. But like this guy is shaving himself. Yeah, the thing, all right, mustache, no beard, that means you're shaving your beard. Right? Am I wrong?
00:48:35
Speaker
But it's crazy because it's like he can't fucking see the mustache. So he doesn't know how bad the must. Or like, does he not see? Is it like you just can't see yourself or does he see like a floating mustache? And it's just like, not too bad, not too bad. And all of that being said, like, it's such a weird deliberate choice. It doesn't make any sense logically within the story.
00:49:03
Speaker
But I personally just so happen to really like mustaches and I'm like not mad about it, even though it doesn't make any sense. And it's kind of a plot hole, honestly, that Count Orlok is like getting up every day and like shaping his beard. But I didn't need it. It's a it's an a nod to brand um or to count Dracula.
00:49:30
Speaker
Vlad the Impaler, so they took his mustache and put it on Orlok. That makes a lot more sense. um I did overhear someone that I know saying that Count Orlok reminded them of like a friend of mine, and I'm not going to say who it is, but some people will know that if you know this person, you know it does kind of look like them.
00:49:55
Speaker
I just I thought that was funny. I had a hard time not wanting to laugh when he was. And these were like tense moments. You know, these were like very, very tense moments and.
00:50:11
Speaker
Two or three seconds, like I think they showed it too much. I think the problem is they showed me the mustache, to but I think it also helps because there were times when he like when he's opening the coffin.
00:50:24
Speaker
He's opening up the sarcophagus and I wasn't sure for a minute. I was like, is it going to be him? Is it the count or is it like, cause I know in the story, sometimes like he keeps other, other like vampires or other people that he feeds on. He keeps them like locked up in his dungeon or whatever. So I was like, ooh, when he opens this, is it going to be him? Is it going to be like?
00:50:46
Speaker
a bride of Dracula situation, but I feel like the mustache helped you to recognize that it was him every time. do you think And it's not like a random corpse. Do you think when he walked up and opened the the coffin, do you think he was in the middle of shaving? like Remember the scene where he like finally opens the coffin and he's about to kill him? Do you think he was like in the middle of shaving?
00:51:14
Speaker
I don't know, but all I think about, like the parts where he's like slurping blood, all I can think of is his mustache just being like sopping. Or his mustache like tickling, tickling the people that he's like, I don't know. Cause I just imagine like, if you have to like drink anything with a mustache and he's like up in there, he is sucking the blood. But every time you see him,
00:51:40
Speaker
His mustache just looks really clean. It looks like he shampooed it. The thing is, I will tell you this, um I try not to... that I can't not have facial hair because then I just look like a perv, but then I try not to have too much because I'm also not a fucking barbarian. But whenever I don't get around to taking care of myself,
00:52:02
Speaker
um I do know, so that the when I would to get around to taking care of myself, there is a little bit more facial hair than I want. The reason I bring it up is because every morning I love to eat eggs. Some days I eat egg sandwiches and um I like my, my yolk runny a little bit. So sometimes there's parts where like the yolk is trapped in the hair and it hardens up in the hair. So it's gotta be the same thing with blood.
00:52:29
Speaker
That's probably like a nice like protein treatment though. Well, he's just kind of like, oh, you mean the eggs for me or the blood for? Yeah, both. Maybe. It always falls here and I do have more hair on this side and I do on this side, but. Probably the eggs. I think I need to drip eggs on the other side. The thing is, it so I do want to say this because I'm sure I'm speaking for me and Julia and probably Pat too.
00:52:54
Speaker
it doesn't ruin the movie any whatsoever. It doesn't like take away from anything. In my opinion, it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. I liked it. It's, it didn't literally, it didn't take me out of anything, but there were certain parts where I saw it and I didn't want to kind of like get you a little bit. It's something that I honestly didn't think of or notice until like after we left the theater and the next day I was like, wait a minute.
00:53:22
Speaker
he would have to shave every other inch of his body and leave that part of it. You know, it's not like he had long hair and a long scraggly beard and a mustache. He was bald headed, no hair on his whole body, no eyebrows, nothing. Big old mustache. But it did not take me out of the movie at all. I did i didn't lose any immersion from it. It wasn't really jarring. It it was just, i I share the same sentiment.
00:53:50
Speaker
There are a lot of people, and this is why we're talking about it, who hate it or it's ruined the movie for them. And I feel sorry for them that they they can't, I don't want to say get over it or look past it, like that it took them out of the element. um They tried to throw a knot to Vlad the Impaler. They put his mustache on the, they count Orlok.
00:54:18
Speaker
It was a mustache style that was kind of popular at the time of the film takes place. So like, there's like, there's something there. Yeah. The thing is he had the same mustaches like all of the other characters. So. Yeah. I, I feel bad for the people that that that's what ruined it for him. I hope, you know, they kind of get over it or people get past it. It didn't bother me.
Vampire Lore and Common Themes
00:54:48
Speaker
I just, there was parts of the movie where I wanted to laugh, but it didn't bother me. you know like And it's unfortunate if it got to the point where it bothered someone else. you know if it If it made someone kind of say like, oh, this is horrible. Look at his mustache. like One, come on now. I mean, you have to look past the mustache. like He was phenomenal in it.
00:55:14
Speaker
but you know, I can see where that mustache would kind of make you giggle a little bit because, well, it was kind of fucking like weird, man. But in no way, shape or form was, like in no way, shape or form was the mustache like gonna ruin the movie, at least for me.
00:55:39
Speaker
And his voice too was kind of like, I don't know, something about his voice I didn't really like. Not like bad ways, but like, um, eerie wise, like creepy wise or something about his voice I didn't really like either. Bless you. Well, that was the whole thing. He wanted it to be eerie and creepy. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, he did a phenomenal job at it. I just, that was one thing too, that I don't know if you really notice it much because you're, there's so much other stuff to kind of
00:56:11
Speaker
you know be googly eyed about for this movie but his voice like we do have to acknowledge his voice was his voice was really creepy we do have to acknowledge that yeah I'm i'm glad like all that Icelandic training I thought it was great because it it it paid off yeah we should we should also acknowledge the fact that and maybe this is like a I don't know. I just thought it was also funny that they added, that they made it ah a fit. Well, no, I guess it makes sense. I was going to say that they stole his horse, but I guess it makes sense because they don't want you to go see him. So never mind. Forget that. I'll just chalk that up as me being a child still and thinking that was funny. So, and if you don't know like the original story, this was a pretty,
00:57:08
Speaker
like almost 100% accurate adaptation. The like one plot point that was added was in the original, um, like Ellen's character does not meet him when she's a child. Like that, that part was added. But in this version, she like called out to him when she was a child and he came to her and that's how they formed the bond.
00:57:34
Speaker
That's like an interesting thing to add. They also really pushed like the sexual element of it, which I think is fine because like vampires are always an allegory for sex. So I feel like that just makes sense to do. It makes it more like, like you're at least acknowledging it. Cause like, that's what vampires are. They're just like, yeah. I mean, you're a lot, you have to, you know, you, you, you have to kind of,
00:58:04
Speaker
anticipate if you're going into seeing a rated R vampire movie. You have to acknowledge and just just everything about what vampires are. It's like they bite people on their neck. They they always want to bite like beautiful women. Blood is like a symbol for flesh.
00:58:23
Speaker
They only come out at nighttime. They're associated with sin. Like it's, it's just vampires are about sex. They're just like a made up scary character to be an allegory for sex, which is also bad in the eyes of like the church and stuff. And vampires are from the devil, which is from the church. So it makes sense. Yeah. ah So whenever you're watching like a vampire movie, you kind of have to like suspend your disbelief in a little bit. And you're like, this is this goofy creature that was invented. But I like that Robert Evers kind of like leaned into that. It was a little bit weird. I was talking about my friends, like it's a little weird. Like the way she's like, Oh yeah, I called out to him. And it's like, when, when you were like 12, like, what are you talking about? Yeah.
00:59:12
Speaker
Cause it didn't make it seem in the movie. It didn't make it seem like they known each other for a long time. And she's only in like in her early twenties. Right. In this movie. And I'm like, you just got married. You're like super young. You've known this guy for like probably a couple of years, maybe. She's got so i'm like, and she's like, yeah, like long, long ago when I was a child, I'm like, when all did this happen? And like, what?
00:59:39
Speaker
companionship were you craving that you like called out into the universe and summoned this like sexual demon, like what's that about? Well, she must have heard about them, you know, like. I'm saying like, what were the prayers that she was saying? At that age. Right, exactly. Yeah, I can understand. That's a good point. Like I can understand like your mid 30s,
01:00:09
Speaker
At that point, it's like kind of like, fuck it. Me and my friends were joking about it a lot, basically, but it's like, it's, it's made very clear in the film that at a very young age, she was like calling out for like an intimate him partner, it seems. But you can kind of explain that away and be like, maybe she was abused. Maybe there was other stuff going on. Maybe it led her to being hypersexual. I'm just making up details, but that's kind of how I'm i
01:00:40
Speaker
reconciling. iin sure I interpreted it as she was looking for like an intimacy and connection, but not fully understanding the grasp of what she was asking for. yeah like She's like 13 and doesn't fully understand what what sex is. And this this you know entity, this vampire is like, I'm going to take advantage of this. I'm going to steal her soul.
01:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, that does make sense. Again, kind of strange in that sense. But I can understand being in like your mid to late 30s and thinking like, I'm just gonna have to call Paul Nosferatu because at this point in my life. Yeah, and I've been making a lot of jokes about it like to my friends, because the thing that I thought going into this, I was like, this story has been told so many times. What about this film is going to justify it having been made?
01:01:38
Speaker
Robert Eggers had to have seen every Nosferatu adaptation, every like Dracula thing, and said, nope, it's missing something. I can do it different. And I made this joke to my friends, and like everything was like almost 100% accurate adaptation. And the one detail he added was that he made her like a little freak.
01:02:02
Speaker
yeah Yeah, well, yeah. He watched like every vampire movie and he was like, you know what? This is missing. Somebody that actually likes it. A hypersexual child. Yeah. you feel like that that's that He watched that Andy Warhol document that um vampire movie. And and I was telling Pat, too, on the way home, I was like, I wonder what killed him. like Was it that she set him up and she had the you know the the plan Or was it because she was a whore? What kind of world what world was this in? Was this in the Andy Warhol, um Dracula world where like Dracula keeps sucking on like women's blood?
01:02:48
Speaker
But none of them are virgins, so he's just pissed off because everyone is a whore. No, it was because he was still sucking her blood when the sun came up. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, but I would like to think that it was. But yeah, I'm making these jokes that it was a really silly plot point to add. But I also kind of understand why it was done. And I feel like it makes a lot of sense to kind of lean into that theme. And I don't mind that either, though, because oh to give them basically to give them a relationship. When you think of a lot of vampire movies, there's not a lot, a lot, a lot of them where they have like an intimate relationship with the vampire. You might see like possession movies where they've had like an intimate relationship with like the devil or something or some sort of creature, but you know, you normally don't see it in in vampire movies where
01:03:41
Speaker
you know, maybe eventually there's always a love interest. I mean, black you love, there's a love interest, the underworld movies, there's a love, it like there's always that aspect where it's not always like sexualized. Sometimes it's like actually love. But in this one, they had an intimate connection from the star from like very, very young. So I do like that that was something they added because although kind of creepy, because it's like,
01:04:10
Speaker
cut things as you went to, you know? Yeah, it did create, I think it created a really interesting dynamic between her and her husband. And I think both their performances were so great. And those scenes where she tells them like, look, by the way, I kind of know this guy, we kind of had a situationship. Back in the day, we had a little bit of an entanglement.
01:04:32
Speaker
But I feel like that really gave the opportunity to show how good their acting was in within their relationship, to show Nicholas Holt, to show his shock and his horror, but also his acceptance and his love for his wife. yeah And that plot point gave the opportunity to show that. But the thing is, it fits the whole vampire thing too. Because a lot of times, again, vampire movies are about love.
01:05:02
Speaker
you know, sometimes they're just looking for love, you know, and and didn't this wasn't a vampire movie. But I know it's somewhat similar to the You Can't Never Die concept, but there's a movie called The Old Guard, where basically it's like a group of people that are immortal, they cannot die. And they've lived through like centuries and centuries and centuries of like fighting people and stuff. But in a movie somewhere along the lines, they kind of mentioned like, yeah,
01:05:31
Speaker
This is great because we can't die. like We come back to life and and this and that and a third, but you literally see every single person you love die. like Every person, you know you might get married a few times and they die, your children die, their grandchildren die, your friends die. and like I know that's kind of like the whole point of a lot of vampire movies where it's like I've been through. I mean, Interview with a Vampire, I think that's one of the concepts. And it's like you everything dies. Everything dies, but you stay alive. yeah And you know um to have ah to have like that thing where he's like, I picked one person, and that's the person that I spent their whole life with, even though it's that sounds more romantic than what this movie was,
01:06:24
Speaker
um You know, it's that kind of concept, I think, of they had that intimate relationship for so long that he was thrown off his game yeah when he finally got what he wanted. He was just thrown off his game and it got him killed. Yeah. You know. I think it was like a really great exploration of like love and relationships. Like you said, the relationship with her and her husband, the relationship with her and Orlock. Because you think about
Character Dynamics and Final Thoughts
01:06:53
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it.
01:06:55
Speaker
really wasn't that in love with her husband when you really think I think she was more in love with I disagree because I think she I think she sacrificed herself you made the ultimate sacrifice like you know no I think she because the thing is why would she have married him she would have kept fucking around with old I almost said Olaf. But I don't think she would have married him if she didn't. Because then you realize what you've done. You realize it's like a bad ex. You realize what you've done. You're like, oh, wait, no. This thing that I summoned 10 years ago isn't what I thought it was. So I want to get away from my past. It's the classic I'm trying to run from my past.
01:07:44
Speaker
you know And I'm assuming too, I don't fucking know. I'm assuming too, but um I do love that it was somewhat at the end, your classic vampire is trope a word that I'm looking for, where he's looking for love at the end of the day. Because at the end of the day, he's like, I want you. So I'm going to literally kill everything you love so I can have you. As abusive as that is,
01:08:15
Speaker
to him, the vampire. That's like his way of saying, I want nobody else but you. And I would kill literally every single person to get you. yeah It's that weird vampire. He's also a plague that's going to take over. Right, right. But he's willing to stop that plague for her. you know Yeah, yeah. Overall, I loved it.
01:08:42
Speaker
Yeah, I just think Ellen was built different and real recognized real like she was just so built different that Count Orlock sensed her in the universe. It was like She was she sent out like a you up test and he's like, I don't even sleep ever listen Men do some stupid fucking shit just because a woman one day says hi to them yeah, and I love like the You know, the female hysteria and the doctors being like... Yeah. The doctor shows up and he's just like, ew, you don't sleep with a corset on? Like, that's probably why. That's why I watch so much blood. Yeah, they're like, you're too hot blooded. That's the problem. You gotta... Yeah.
01:09:38
Speaker
Have some more ether, put a fucking corset on, slut. Yeah. Yeah. The thing is, I don't, I don't blame him. Not, not the doctor. I don't, um, what's his name? Olock, right? Or lock. Or lock. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Is the vampire. Right. Right. Right. Right. Um, I don't blame him though. You know what I'm saying? Cause like, that's what we do. All you have to do is be like nice to us for like,
01:10:10
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one week and then we're just like, yes, I will fucking murder your whole family just so we can go on a date. You know what I'm saying? So he's a vampire. He's got the power to do it. I mean, who the fuck is her husband compared to him? You know, he's got money. You know, husband's a little chump. You know, he can't runs from my wolves and stuff. You know, like he's not running from wolves.
01:10:40
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You know, and he probably said that, like, your husband runs from wolves. Like, I don't run from nothing. You know? So, I don't know. Something to think about.
01:10:53
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Yeah. ah I hope to, like I said, I hope to see it again and fully immerse myself. I love the atmosphere. um Hopefully, we get more soon from Robert Eggers.
01:11:11
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And I also hope more people go out and and see it. Yeah. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it. Very spooky.
01:11:23
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um Really great at that fear aspect without really relying on like jump scares. It was just like genuine terror. Oh, they had the jump scares because I felt that jump.
01:11:37
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few times I think it was extremely tasteful in the way that there might've been a couple, but i I felt very tasteful to me. I feel like people complain about jump scares and think they're cheap, but this was not bad. This was not cheap. This was not silly.
01:11:53
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I jump scared myself today, so every time we record, Enrique comes to my house, and for some reason, I hear him walking up to the door a lot of the time, so I'll go up and open the door, because I i hear that he's outside. I don't wait for him to knock.
01:12:11
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But every time I do this, I open the door and I jump because he's standing at the door. But the reason I opened the door is because I knew he would be there. So I don't know why I was so startled, but I've done it multiple times at this point. I'm like, Oh, he's, he's probably right there. Let me open the door. I open the door. He's standing there and I jump. And to my defense, I don't take like huge fee five fold from steps when I walk, but, um,
01:12:39
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I'm just, I think I'm just like really good at like sensing when you're like, like I hear a car pull up. I'm like, that's probably him. I hear the door shut. I hear you walking. So I'm like, all right, he's literally about to walk up to the door. And then for some reason, I do not expect like a man to be standing in my doorway when I open the door. That's fair. yes that's That's fair. So, you know, we all get jumpscared from time to time. Yeah. I, I almost jump scared when,
01:13:10
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they showed a shit ton of rats in the movie. Man, I fucking hate rats. I'm genuinely terrified of rats. I have a legitimate phobia. I can't be around like people's pet rats, unfortunately. I know a lot of people love rats, think they're cute and cuddly. I personally can't do it. I'm not a mean and horrible person. I just have a genuine phobia of rats. so I might be a mean and horrible person, because I fucking will never Talk to you again if you have a pet rat. Yeah, I might be lying too because it's pretty, but yeah, I just can't. So rats rats alone are scary as hell. I don't know how people were staying so calm with all the fucking rats. And a great touch to add that much of the rats to it, you know?
01:14:00
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and I know like with the plague going on like the scenes where they step out like they get thrown out of the house and have to go home and they step out into the street and there's just like bodies piled in the street and there's people coughing with dogs eating horses yeah with like so people with sores all over their body like laying in the street like in their own sickness that was like a really great image where like they step outside and the street is like poison and it feels like the air is poison and you really get that sense of like pollution and nastiness. I think um we should wrap it up because I mean I've had things to say that are productive on this because I'm just sitting here looking at show times for tomorrow.
01:14:49
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Yeah, I'd like to see it again. maybe I'll try to find my way to get to the theater again, maybe Tuesday. and go yeah Well, no, it's not free. It's not $5 Tuesday. So maybe not. We do have two free tickets though. Literally like the last several Tuesdays, it's been Thanksgiving, Christmas, now New Year's. There hasn't been a $5 Tuesday and a hot minute.
01:15:12
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and And there's several films because i I want to see this again. I also want to see Wicked again, but I'm not going to pay to see it a second time. If it's more than $5, you know what I mean? Well, we did it. Yeah, but so that's always, that's always that anyway.
01:15:32
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Yeah, so we can wrap up though. Overall, now I didn't mention it in my best movies of 2024, cause I just haven't mentally been right these past couple of days. So I completely forgot to put it on letterbox and when I judge, but overall, this was probably a top 10 movie. I'd have to reevaluate my list, but this was probably a top 10 movie. If not a top 10, it's definitely 10A, 10B, 10C with the other with the other tens that I have, which is Blink Twice and um Strange Darling. If it's not, it will be. yeah If you haven't seen either of them, watch this as a double feature with Last Voyage of the Demeter. Also a phenomenal movie. That's my double feature of the day. I can never recommend a single film. You've got to watch them back to back. Yeah.
01:16:32
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Anything else, Pat? No, I'm good. I don't know. Catch everyone in 2025. Yeah. All right.