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No Not Him, The Other One, Joe Bandelli
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The year is 2024. Joe Bandelli found Hector in the woods. He was dead.
Have you ever had mustard pizza? What gifts would you give horror figure if you had them in a pollyanna? Is giving Ghostface batteries for his voice box helping him kill or a generous and thoughtful gift? Is Pat a big whodunit fan? What's your favorite horror movie dealing with cabins in woods? Is The Mahoning Drive-In Theater the GOAT? Do you know any Hectors? What is Marlon Wayans best character? Should Enrique had been allowed to watch Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood as a kid? If you were trapped in a cabin in the woods, would you leave or stay and fight? Would you change a tire while begin chased by a killer in the woods? Do you just love to have fun or does everything have to be mean something? Do you have a crush on Channing Tatum?
Check out Joe Bandelli and his new film, Another Cabin in the Woods Movie.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
All right, Pat. I like how you say all right, Pat, every time we do this. Let's get started. Hey, everybody, this is another episode of what we saw last night, South Jersey in Philadelphia's preeminent horror ah movie and culture podcast. We are lucky to have back our good friend Joe Bendelli, producer, actor, writer, Jersey native, LA based,
00:00:22
Speaker
um Joe you just dropped a movie another cabin in the woods movie. It's on to be everyone should check it out We checked it out. We reviewed it. We talked about it. We loved it So thanks for joining us um and hopping back on.
Horror-Themed Pollyanna Gift Exchange
00:00:34
Speaker
Thank you for having me guys a Favorite podcasts to talk about pizza with so thanks. Yeah awesome oh and that was like I did tell you I had the um mustard pizza that you recommended and it was it was it was actually really good Yeah, i I would say it's it's the one thing that I always tell people it sounds disgusting, but it's delicious. Yeah, and and it wasn't like overpowering mustardy. um well Maybe we'll talk pizza later and I'll we'll get into it. um But as always, we do an icebreaker on this. um In honor of the holiday season, we're going to do a horror Pollyanna. um I put your names and a bunch of horror figures in a random name generator.
00:01:18
Speaker
and um you will be assigned a horror figure to shop for and a horror ah figure to receive from. You will say what you hope to receive from them and what you will get them. I love that. All right, so like I'm gonna just click this and it will read that. um Enrique, you've got Ghostface and Billy Loomis Ghostface and you will be getting a gift from, it says, wait, oh, no,
00:01:47
Speaker
it It said Go Space again, so I deleted that. ah You get Freddy Krueger, it will be ah shopping for you. um Joe, you have, oh man, this is gonna be good. All right, you're shopping for Leatherface and you will be getting a gift from Maxine. And Julia, you have Art the Clown you'll be getting for and Pennywise the Clown is ah receiving.
00:02:19
Speaker
So you got two clowns. All right, well, I guess we can go in order. ah So Ghostface, I would probably get Ghostface batteries ah for his voice machine. Smart. Yeah, but I would definitely get him batteries. And I think Freddie, if Freddie gave me a gift, would probably be like chamomile tea so I can fall asleep.
00:02:50
Speaker
That's a good one. That's what I'm thinking. That's how that, I think that's how that would go. I like that. So, okay. Let me, so if I'm going, so I'm shopping for something for Leatherface. Yeah. And getting something from Maxine, right?
00:03:09
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. I feel like for Leatherface, um, he's always living in a disgusting ass place and it doesn't matter what they're eating. I would get them, I would get him some nice plate wear. Um, so that it he wasn't eating off of the gross shit that's growing on whatever's in his house. Um, and then from Maxine, uh, I'd like to receive her high heels. Um, feel me she had some violent, uh, violent moments with her.
00:03:38
Speaker
with their heels in the most recent movie, so I'd love i'd love ah to cherish those guys. Do you want them pre-incident or post-incident? Absolutely post-incident. Okay.
00:03:49
Speaker
yeah does It's my turn. I feel like I got the word. This is so hard. They're both so scared. Like, I'm so scared of Art the Clown. He's probably easier to stop for. No, he's not. Like, I'm trying to think, what do I give him so he doesn't kill me?
00:04:08
Speaker
but also he like can't die ever. So like there's nothing I can do that will like subdue him. Enrique just gave something to aid yeah or he got something to aid. So like I got something for Ghostface to kill people and I got something so Freddie can kill me. I would give Art the Clown a kit of like clown accessories. How he has like the bike horn. Like I would get him like If I could find a kit that comes with like a bicorn and also like the, when they pull like the handkerchiefs out and and maybe like a tricycle, some some like clown accessories that will maybe distract him. And I don't want Art the Clown to be like successful in his endeavors, honestly. I feel like that's,
Discussion on Food Preferences
00:04:57
Speaker
I don't know if this is how we're playing the game, but I feel like that's not ideal. Pennywise the Clown, what would he give me?
00:05:07
Speaker
children and children doest yeah and I don't know if this happens in the movie but in the book I think in the scene when she's in the old woman's house Beverly's like drinking the tea and then the tea becomes like raw sewage. I think he would give me that because I'm always drinking tea and at some point someone would be like oh do you want some tea and I would accept it and then I would find out It's sewage. They're Pennywise and it's not tea. I would want Pennywise to give me that old woman that kind of goes like this. and um Because i'm saying I'm saying what I think he would give me, right? Not what I want to receive. yeah Yeah. Yeah, it's whatever you think he would give you. Yeah, so like in a Pollyanna, I wish someone would like give me some tea. OK. Should I change my receive from to tea as well? I feel like that's the theme.
00:06:02
Speaker
so i mean like
Discussion on Joe Bendelli's New Movie
00:06:06
Speaker
I guess we all get tea. whatle did What flavor tea would you get from those people?
00:06:14
Speaker
Freddie would put me to sleep. so whatever My sister one time one time got me like this um store brand nighttime tea. And I have no clue what it is. It just says nighttime tea. I feel Freddie would give me something along those lines of tea. Yeah. he I feel like Freddie would give you like pizza, but the meatballs are like heads. Like someone's head. Well, probably. I forget which movie that's in, but where he turns the kid into meatballs and then he like eats him. I wouldn't mind either. I haven't eaten today, so I wouldn't mind either.
00:06:53
Speaker
love Love it. I didn't put my name in this, um but I would. I'm doing one. Go ahead. Yeah. I'll go with, um, if I have to get, get a gift, I would want it like someone from candy man, like a jacket. Um, yeah and I don't know, I'm a decent gift giver. So like whoever, whoever I'm giving for, I'm going to look at what they do and I'm going to try to make their life easier.
00:07:24
Speaker
Okay, that's fair. So like a knife sharpener for half of them. I mean, you and Enrique are really trying to, really really trying to kill that, grow the body count on these... um these a Yeah, like, I don't think I understand the game. Like, am I trying to... No, it's just... Well, like, I just... Look, it's the it's the giving season and, like, sometimes you got to put flaws away, aside. Right, I think that's fair. Yeah. I just want to be, I just want to be a...
00:07:50
Speaker
a decent man in my life. And i feel like that's a i take yeah I feel like that's the opposite of what you're doing. But it's Christmas. that's a good Yeah, it's the holiday spirit. Let's let's get ah into this. um yeah you joe First of all, thanks for having us and thinking and like sending us um so we could watch the movie. um We all and enjoyed it. um How did you get involved in this?
00:08:17
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um This was a brainchild of mine. um oh yeah my My original partner on it, Matthew Wise, and I wanted to do a whodunit and we wanted to do something that made fun of the cabin and the wood genre.
00:08:31
Speaker
um because we were we were always talking about, I grew up on Friday the 13th. He grew up on Evil Dead. um We sort of had this love for ridiculous kind of scenarios that are always taking place in Cabins in the Woods. And then if you like look back at horror movies and there's, you know, the the cabin in the woods genre itself is its own sub genre. So we just thought it'd be funny to kind of make fun of it and poke fun with it. And you know, take characters that weren't really original characters, but put an original whodunit storyline together and just have fun with it. So, um, and I think I also just, I think when we started writing it, I just recently got broken up with. So I feel like I wanted to say that like the women are evil or something like that. And I think that's why the killer is who the killer is at the at the end of the story.
00:09:27
Speaker
Nice. um I mean, I'm a big Whodunit fan. um ah look like In preparation for like making this, did you watch a lot of Cabin in the Woods films? Yeah, so i we did what so I think when we wrote the movie, we watched ah lot we already had the history of watching a bunch of Cabin in the Woods movies. It was more about watching Whodunit movies that kind of got us to where we get... Yeah, it wasn't... Because we knew the formula. We knew the kind of setup of...
00:09:56
Speaker
what you need, because like I said, um Cabin in the Woods movies are their own sub genre, but I guess the better way of saying it is isolation movies. There's so many isolation movies out there. So we knew the formula. So it wasn't really about going back and doing research on that. It was more about um it was more about figuring out a way to confuse the audience in a whodunit and actually have a decent storyline with a whodunit that could actually be something where, you know, whenever someone gets killed,
00:10:25
Speaker
It's like, oh, okay, it obviously could have been this person or this person, but it definitely couldn't have been this person or this person and almost point the finger at one specific person. And then by the time the next kill happens, you're like,
Nostalgia and Inspirations
00:10:39
Speaker
okay, wait a second. It can't be that person. It has to be this person. So that, that was a lot of what we did when we were outlining and kind of coming up with a storyline. Cool. Um, where did you film it?
00:10:51
Speaker
We filmed it in the same area that we film all the Hell House films in, in Lehigh in Pennsylvania. So I think that is so cool. I think we did more in Jim Thorpe um because we had two like two major locations. But yeah, stick into the Pennsylvania area. So speaking of really quick.
00:11:13
Speaker
When you're filming these films in Lehigh Inn, do you ever stop by Mahoning Drive-In? Yeah, i so I know for sure that there's other people who live closer um that worked on the Hell House films that try to go by and see the things or the places we've stayed at. um I try to every time I come into town um and see, definitely go to the Waldorf for sure where we shot the original Hell House. But yeah, I try to stop by as much as I can. That's awesome. hey
00:11:52
Speaker
Nice. I think it's funny. So like this summer, me and Enrique, we saw both Evil Dead at the Mahooning Drive-in in Lea Heights. And we saw all of the, well, almost all of the Friday, the 13th, except for 10 and 1 and 2, or 1 and 10. That's awesome. Oh yeah, we did see A and 9. Yeah, yeah, we did see A and 9. Yeah. Yeah, that theater is great. They have so many awesome screenings there. I highly recommend it to anyone.
00:12:21
Speaker
Um, going back there and checking it out. Yeah. I think that's like a fun coincidence. Yeah. The two, two like young films that kind of inspired this film there. We were watching. Um, cool. How was it on set? Like, uh, just making the movie. Uh, it seemed like.
00:12:38
Speaker
it was a funny movie but like you obviously have to be serious on set yeah you know what's funny so so i'm i'm heavily heavily so like i'm a huge horror guy as as you guys probably already know yeah i'm tated up with all horror villains and horror is a big part of my life. But I think one of the things that people don't realize and what I try to bring to a lot of the things that I do, um humor and comedy are such a big part of my life. and um And I think with movies that I've been, I'm hugely inspired by Mel Brooks, by by David and Jerry Zucker and Jim Abrams and
00:13:21
Speaker
and by the Pink Panther movies that Blake Edwards and Peter Sellers did. So one of the things that I think was really interesting when we made this movie was we the cast knew they were making a horror comedy, but I don't think any of them knew they were making a parody. And I think that was intentional.
00:13:36
Speaker
um because I think there's certain things that are in the actual storyline that are funny that are inherently like the cast knows what's gonna happen but none of them knew about the commentary that we were putting in and after the fact and about the stuff that was playing on in the scene so it which worked to our benefit because movies like airplane and the pink panther movies which are like my favorite movies in the world those movies play so well because you have Leslie Nielsen and Peter Sellers and you you know, even in Mel Brooks films like Gene, Gene Wilde, they're playing things so straight. And I think that gave us the ability to have our actors play everything so straight, even though we were kind of making fun of it with the commentary going on around them.
Character Development and Humor
00:14:18
Speaker
Oh, that's really cool. um So you know, like the cast, how did you cast this? Like when you were writing it, did you have like a few people in mind or
00:14:27
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. So Matthew Wise was my partner on this. So he's the one who plays Grant. So we wrote Grant for him to be you know the the stereotypical most vanilla character that you can come up with. So that was kind of what we wrote for him. um We wrote the Carter character for for our buddy Dwayne Cooper because we figured he'd be really good at playing kind of like the asshole jock.
00:14:52
Speaker
um And then we wrote the Beth character for our friend Jackie, who's a comedian and we figured she would be great in it. um And then everyone else, we kind of casted the Cleo who plays Sarah. um Matt and I did a zombie web series called Bum Bloods and we cast her in that and we knew her for a few years. So.
00:15:15
Speaker
She kind of fit the bill for us for what we were trying to do with the Sarah character, kind of someone that, you know, plays the whole innocent, but maybe isn't as innocent. So she was kind of like the last person. And then the other four people, we we basically kind of talked about for a little bit, for Nicole Payson, who plays Danny, we, um Matt went to school with her. And so we contacted her and then I flew out to LA because I was living in in New York at the time.
00:15:43
Speaker
And I flew out to LA and I offered her the the role. And then we did auditions for the Trish character that Alison Mackenzie Wells eventually got. And we did auditions for the Walter Clayton character, um which took a very, very long time. And then we did do auditions for the J character. And I think I got frustrated with those auditions that I said, fuck it, I'm just gonna do it myself. So, okay.
00:16:10
Speaker
But you know, people ask, i was I did not write that character for myself, but then once I realized I was gonna play that character, I think I added in certain things to kind of make it a little bit more over the top ridiculous. Yeah, I wanna ask about like that, cause like that was literally gonna be my next question. I was like, so did you have yourself in mind or so you've you've already answered it. But um how was it playing such a vibrant character? Cause we know you were the clown in um in Hell House and like this seems to be the polar opposite.
00:16:42
Speaker
Yeah. oh I mean, if you'd asked Steven Cognetti, it definitely it would not be the polar opposite because I keep the amount of times that I want to do some stupid ass stuff with the clown, but we always say, no, let's go more sub-OMS. Yeah. I mean, it was easy for me because again, I like, you know, when you're shooting a horror movie, like everyone's laughing and joking around and having fun. um It's not, even though it's ah it's a serious environment, it's it's always fun and it's always funny. And I think,
00:17:10
Speaker
I wrote that character specifically to be the person that by the time he gets killed, everyone is like, this guy needs to go. Like I wanted everyone to hate this guy. I wanted everyone to to feel like, man, if someone was going to die first, this is the guy who has to die first. so ah So that was kind of easy to play and to put in kind of elements of things that I think I put in parts of my personality, but I also put in parts of my personality that I think are the worst parts of my personality. And then I just went way over the top with them um and kind of created this like over the top douchebag character that I think died a pretty good way. I hope it was a very enjoyable.
00:17:54
Speaker
Yeah, it was. And and to to follow up on him, which he was my favorite character, um I know, um I'm Mexican, so I know a lot of um people on um my dad's wife's side where, you know, it's two first like two first names, two last names. And it's like that cliche of like Hector Luis de la Cruz Sanchez. And um for whatever reason,
00:18:23
Speaker
Hector decided to introduce himself as his full name. So i like, but personally, I like to me, that was hilarious. Because like, you know, it's, it's, I know people who really have like very long names. And, but they refer to themselves as like, how my name is Louis, or my name is this, and like Hector had like the, you know, I'm just gonna give you my full name. But it's the like i love i I love things that are just like ridiculously silly, really ridiculously like just goofy and dumb. you know like I love that kind of stuff. It's it's fun. And like that that he was like a very wild character. you know And I know a few hectares. I know a couple people. like
00:19:05
Speaker
you know so like i the i people you mean you literally know like a couple guys oh I do I do know a guy named Hector um I thought you were just being like oh yeah I know a lot of Hector no no no I do know a guy named Hector I worked his daughter's pincignera but yeah um ah so the the thing is like the Hector character um most people you mentioned how like Everyone's kind of like, oh my God, I'm so fucking glad this guy's dead, right? But I was the opposite. I was like, oh, why the fuck did he have to do it? what I really liked about it was it reminds me of, again, going back to like just ridiculously silly stuff, right? um I love a lot of like Martin Wayans movies, right? so
00:19:54
Speaker
um Like because he has a tons of goofy characters that you're like, what the hell is your purpose in this movie, right? So like a cousin Ray Ray in a haunted house, Lope Dog and Don't Be a Menace. And literally everyone in scary movie like Shorty, Brenda, Cindy. um And you kind of touched on it, but i'm I'm wondering, like when you do certain characters, especially someone like this where you know he's gonna be fun and you kind of have the freedom to have fun, um do you use like,
00:20:25
Speaker
people you know, I know you said you use some of your personalities, which um but like do you use, like do you build it off of like real experiences of like people you know, or do you kind of work with like that and like a little bit of like some characters and kind of build?
00:20:42
Speaker
but so So it's funny that you're bringing up Marlon Wayne specifically because um so I think one of the things that when when I think of Scary Movie, Scary Movie is one of the best spoof movies of all time and it's in the top 10 for me, top five of you know best horror comedy spoofs. What's interesting is the thing that ah the one character in Scary Movie that I think really takes it from like being one type of tone to a completely different type of tone is shorty.
00:21:14
Speaker
is Marlon Wayne's character because it's so ridiculously over the top. And there's something about that character that makes me, I feel like if Shorty wasn't in, like I love Marlon Wayne's, I think he's one, I love the whole Wayne's family, but I feel like his character's so over to the top that to me, the subtle humor of like Sean Wayne's and how um he plays everything straight, everyone playing it straight in the whole movie,
00:21:40
Speaker
except for Shorty. I feel like Shorty is the one outlier of it. And so when we did this, yeah, I mean, there there are elements, there's certain jokes. that we come up with that are based on either a person or based based on a thing or sort of exaggerations. Like I said, exaggerating um certain things about me. Like for starters, I'm not a rapist. So of this character seems like he's very rapey. That's not based on my personality. What is based on my personality is I tend to go, hmm, sometimes when people are saying something to me,
00:22:15
Speaker
and so it was like okay it would be really funny if this character just goes hmm a lot and was like over the top with it and was always doing it so like that was something that we pulled from me but the other thing is you know i'm sure we all know this um there are a lot of guys um i've met plenty of them um who they don't tend to take no for an answer from some women in and and i know that that's not a really good thing. And, um you know, I went to college with some pushy guys and and I think when I was kind of trying to figure out what is the number one thing to make people not want to like this character or want this character to die, it would be, okay, this guy doesn't know how to sit take no from minute for an answer. and And so, you know, there is that kind of whole thing with Trish that he has there, but I really just wanted to kind of give him a little bit more of that edge of making him be like,
00:23:08
Speaker
I really wanted the audience to dislike him. But Enrique, to what you said to me, like, I do hear from people that he is their their favorite character. And at times, I'm like, that's kind of awesome, because I feel pretty good about myself playing that character. But that character was always meant to be the first one to go. Yeah, and and I think it's and I think it's like a combination of you do take that one character that he does not fit in this movie. His his just like his vibe doesn't fit overall in this movie, um but he's done so well. you know He's such a piece of shit. you know And I love characters like that in movies because, I don't know, there's just something, there's just always, for me, and I don't know, maybe this isn't the popular opinion, but
00:23:57
Speaker
For me, there's just always something funny about having like just the one random, like just asshole. And like you said, you bring up um shorty, right? Everyone in the movie, even though the movie is super over the top and it's like ah just a ridiculously, just ridiculous movie, um everyone is serious, quote unquote, you know, like Cindy when she's running from from Ghostface up the steps,
00:24:24
Speaker
yeah you know She's serious in her own silly way, but there's nothing serious about Shorty whatsoever. you know And and like one of my favorite, favorite movies is ah Don't Be a Menace. And um growing up, like i i I really wasn't allowed to watch it, but I would still watch it. And it's like that movie also, like you know the music, sometimes the music, it's sad. And you know that's that's a great spoof on a lot of like um like what we call like the hood movies, right? it's like ah it's a lot of it's It's like a lot of things, like you can see it, but then you have you know his his character, which is like just read ridiculously over the top for no reason whatsoever. and i And I agree. I think that kind of brings something to the movie and that's i mean that could be why I really love
00:25:16
Speaker
Hector's character because he doesn't belong. One, he doesn't belong there at all because he's not friends with anybody. He's just like working. The thing we all found funny was not only did they hire him, but he's also staying the night. Yeah, like he didn't just perform the wedding. He's still there. Like he's just hanging out with them and it's like,
00:25:38
Speaker
Well, I think, I mean, I think in general, I think the the comedy always works when you take something or someone and put them in an environment when they don't belong. And I think that's that's the best part about that character is he's not one of the people like the party is really supposed to be six of them. And for some unknown reason, this guy decides to invite himself along and these people are too nice.
00:26:01
Speaker
to like uninvite him or get him out of there um and then obviously the Walter Clayton characters just just randomly decides to stay the for the time too and unfortunately these two guys deciding to stay uh they picked the wrong party to stay at so yeah and and it's it just it works perfectly you know because it you in the whodunit you still kind of think like there's no fucking way like could Hector be You know, you know, we all thought it was like Walter. And then it's like, oh, but maybe I could see Hector, you know, getting mad. He got his ass beat. I can see him coming. But then it's like, you know, um it adds to that. And that's what I really enjoyed about it. There's a lot I enjoyed about it. But like I did enjoy that part of it because it it reminded me of these movies, you know, like like Leslie Nielsen, where
00:26:55
Speaker
nothing he does like nothing he does is fucking serious, you know? And that's what makes these movies the best. and And that, you know, the Hector character, I did want to touch up on that, like the Hector character, ah maybe hot take, but I love the Hector character. I was a little upset when he died, but I'm like, okay, cool. You know, he kind of did have to go, but I mean, you know, maybe he didn't have to go right away. ah did you appreciate Did you appreciate the every time he's on screen, we have a nice little Spanish guitar playing?
00:27:31
Speaker
I loved it. I thought it was. And and I know how to bring up a few of the other stuff that we really loved about it. But to me that see, these are the small little things. And I might have said it when we like reviewed the movie, but these are the small little things to me that make movies so good is like you have this like super over the top Hispanic character. Right. And then every single time it's like You know Batman's theme song, you know, these people's theme songs, right? And it's like his theme song is just a Spanish guitar. You know, it's it's like, you know, these these little things that probably 80 percent of people won't really like pick up. I thought that was hilarious, you know, because it's like it's like, OK, Hector, we get it, you know, like I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, i was like there's a few other little things I'll let Pat get into it, but
00:28:28
Speaker
I mean, that that was brilliant. I want to say so. this um How would you handle so like, let's say just like, hypothetically, you're at a wedding with five other of your friends in a cabin in the woods, and people start missing? Like, how would you handle that situation?
00:28:47
Speaker
Um, I get the fuck out of there. Um, yeah, the quicker I would get out of there. I mean, I think that's the, the most obvious. Every one of these things always happens when people decide to stay and, and help people and all that. Just get the fuck out. Just leave. Like that one. That's an easy one for me. I think like the the best way to help people is to get out and then get helper.
00:29:13
Speaker
Yeah, but i fuck everyone else. I just want to leave. Right, and and like like a character like Hector, I'm sure he's just like, i don't I don't fucking know these people. Like, what the fuck do I care about, though? Right, exactly. Like, if he knew. Yeah, so put it that way. If Hector was the first person, was the second person, and he saw someone get killed or he knew someone get killed, he'd be out of there in a second. You
Creative Process and Comedy in Film
00:29:36
Speaker
know what I mean? He doesn't have any ties to everyone else. Yeah, I agree. I kind of would do the same thing. Yeah.
00:29:47
Speaker
Yeah. um my one of says My favorite um part of it was like the red herrings going on in the background, like over the ah radio.
00:29:58
Speaker
the Like I think that was like one of the funniest things I've seen in in a movie in a long time. I laughed hysterically. um Whose idea was it? Because that was brilliant.
00:30:10
Speaker
yeah so the you're talking about the radio the background radio yeah so i had an idea for it but um it didn't really come together until i was in post-production with my other partner nick lambda um Him and I were kind of chatted about some things about set like self-references and some of those kinds of things that we wanted to do in the movie. And then I cut something together for the introduction scene with Carter and Trish driving up in the car. And I cut something together and I gave it to my editor and partner, Nick. And Nick basically sent me back what you see in the movie, um just with a temporary voice, not the people that we use in there.
00:30:51
Speaker
and had the whole meditation guide in there. And i was I was dying. I thought it was hilarious. And so basically, once he showed me that, we started like kind of re-going back and and and sort of reassessing the commentary side of things. And then we just created all these characters that we kind of brought into the world. And that's kind of where theres the self-references kind of came from. I'm glad, because there was that was hilarious. like watching it I was watching it at home. I forget which one. At first, I didn't know. It took me like one or two of them. I was like, oh, that's kind of like a funny thing for a radio person to say. And then they were like, oh, we'll check back in a couple minutes, see if there's still something like that. I was dying.
00:31:43
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And I think for me, because I know there was like random fucking animal noises, like a lot of that stuff was- Yeah, I liked how they got like progressively, because you hear like an owl, but then it's like later on, you hear like a dolphin and like monkeys. Yeah. oh yeah And like a lot of these things, it's This is what, um I guess, i i me personally, I would describe it as like 1A, 1B, right? Of my favorite parts of the movie. 1A being Hector's character and like 1B or whatever. 1A being, you know.
00:32:19
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but the second part being like the radio and the TV and the helicopter and ah even the phone. And and I remember, cause I saw the movie, Julia and I saw it together and then I saw it separately. And when I saw it the first time, I kept saying like, who the fuck is talking, right? Like I just wasn't, cause every time I watch a movie, the first time I'm just kind of like trying to like see everything I can see.
00:32:49
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And then the second time that I rewatch, I'll go back and be like, oh, this happened. Let me make sure what happened here. And I remember watching it the second time and I was like, I wonder if I'm going to hear those fucking voices again or like, is something happening with me? Do I need to talk to somebody? and and But I started hearing it and I was like, holy fucking shit. And and and and I promise ah I won't ramble too much about this, but It reminded me of the last time we talked, you said something to me that stuck with me. um so And I'll paraphrase, because I don't remember like the exact thing. But I remember I mentioned something about like, oh man, yeah, sometimes people are just fucking stupid. like why was Why would they do something like that? And you know you said to me, you're like, well, you know you can
00:33:39
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um you know you can believe that, you know like you don't believe that you're in a horror movie, and like but you you would believe that the devil's real, but you can't um take away your disbelief in that. and so like Every time I watch something, I'm thinking of, look at these fucking idiots, right? Think of that. It's like, okay, well, I believe that like the fucking devil is making people do something, you know and it's like, that's not believable. so But like watching this, um that commentary is basically what we're saying. you know And that's what I thought was was was great about it. Because a lot of times they're just like, um no one's no one's ah the phone doesn't work, jackass, or something like that when they call. Or like there's no dial tone. and in and that's And these are the things that, like when I watched it on my second watch, I was like, this is fucking great, man.
00:34:36
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like this is This is the, like I said, did just the ridiculous stuff in movies that I feel a lot of movies get away from. right you know A lot of people, they they they're afraid to just be silly. you know Not everything has to mean something. And I always kind of, you know that's kind of how I base my life. Sometimes you just have to have fun. And like these parts in the movie you know are parts where it's like,
00:35:05
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a lot of other movies may not do this because for whatever reason to them, it's like, this isn't necessary. Right. You know, and and but it's like, it's silly, it's goofy, it's nine times out of 10, the same thing we're saying on our couch.
00:35:20
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Right. So like that, I really loved that a lot. I thought that was definitely some of the best parts of the movie because it's just random. Thank you. know yeah ken you you're You're hitting the nail on the head. I mean, we wanted to do something that made it feel like when you were watching the things you would say as an audience is actually being said in the movie. And so that was kind of one of the things that we talked about while we were doing this. And yeah, we had a lot of fun with it. So it definitely made Usually when you get into post-production, post-production is a little bit harder than shooting because um you basically are stuck with what you have. And I think it it usually, when when you have an experience like I had with post-production on this with that Nick Landa and I had together, it was one of the best experiences I ever had because we're we're making each other laugh constantly. And it was such a fun process to do those characters.
00:36:15
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and and bring them to life and put in the self-references throughout the movie. Because like you said, it is silly. We know it's silly. It's purposely meant to be silly. The whole point of this movie is to be a mock of the genre and to kind of play with the fact that, yeah, we've all seen this stuff before. We know what's going to happen, you know? And yeah, so I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
00:36:39
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Yeah, was it's it's it's always a breath of fresh air to see people just be free, just having fun. um I know a lot of the movies we saw this year, they were good, but there are some movies that maybe didn't do particularly well. like I think Furios, I don't know what box office stuff is. I usually listen to Pat and Julia, they describe that stuff to me. but I know certain movies get like a bad rap, then they come out streaming and this and that, but like I went to see a few of these movies that like Fall Guy I think was one.
00:37:10
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And I was like, this is probably one of the funnest movies I've seen. And you know watching another Kevin in the Woods movie, I'm just like, this is just fun. you know it It was interesting, too. I did like the twist at the end. And I was just like, OK, I could see that bitch being this way. you know But i i i just I had fun throughout the whole movie. And that's what a lot of I think that's just what a lot of movies are missing out on is just fun. Thank you.
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um Yeah,
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00:37:40
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I agree with you. It's, uh, you know, the, the time that we are in in this country, everyone hates one another. Everyone's fighting with one another. And we wanted to put something together that would just kind of take everyone away from that and be like, this was fun. So that's what we tried to do. And it was fun. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. No, like, and like it you can clearly tell you, you guys had fun with it because it kind of like seeps through into the delivery of the lines and, um, it makes it for such an enjoyable experience. And like, I think it's awesome that you guys got on to me cause like I, it makes it easy to, um, recommend to other people. Cause it's great. Yeah. I know that. Yeah. It was like, it was like every, there's so many streaming services out there and like, I'm a horror person. I've got a charter and.
00:38:30
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like other people don't. And so then it's like, Hey, like I saw this movie and I think you would like it. And like, ah what do I like? I have to give up my like password to them. right yeah I feel you, I got you. No, we we love Tubi. Tubi's come a long way. And they're definitely one of, I think they're the number one platform in the world right now um because of their model. And, and you know, um'm I'm a big supporter of them. And I love that we're on their platform. And I hope I have more films on Tubi in the future. I hope so too, because like, um I mean, and this year, I think a lot of people started paying attention to the to stuff that they kind of put out or like,
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that like direct to streaming. Cause I know like lowlights came out and a lot of people are ranking that as like a top horror movie of the year. And that was like 2B only. And there's a handful of other things that have just hit. So like 2B is a growing platform and I think it's awesome. They had some leadership changes in the last year that I think has helped their their content. So um yeah, i'm I'm a big fan.
00:39:40
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I haven't seen low lives yet, by the way. Is it good? I haven't seen it yet. It's all my list like, there's like two movies left and I hopefully I'll get it in before the end of the year. I have like a list of like the horror releases on streaming and like, there's a few left that I want to watch. Um, but yeah, like I keep hearing good things about it and people have recommended it to me. I just haven't had either time to watch it. Yeah. um I might watch it tonight.
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hey Well, if you do, let let us know. um do you Do you see yourself doing more comedy in the future? I mean, like, I hope you do. Absolutely. I'm in the process of writing something. So I have two i have two projects that I think I'm working on next year. one One has a good amount of comedy in it, but it's more of a horror film. um It leans more on the horror side of things. And then another one is kind of in the vein of another Cabin in the Woods movie.
00:40:36
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Nice. I was just going to ask that next time. What do you have like coming up in the ah future? Yeah. 2025 is twenty twenty five is gonna be a big year. I just finished producing the fifth Hell House movie. We just closed production on that a couple of weeks ago, right before Thanksgiving. Congratulations. Thank you. I produced another film right before that called Impostors that um I worked on with a a really talented director. I produced that one. um His name's Caleb Phillips and and Jessica Roth was in that movie. um So that was a fun experience. So that should be coming out next year as well.
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and then um And then the two movies I just told you about that I'm writing and directing. And I think something else is coming in. Oh yeah, the the first narrative feature that Steven Cogneady directed. We shot it a few years ago and it's called the 25 Forest Road. It should be coming out this year or in 2025 as well. So a lot of things on the plate, a lot of things to look forward to. to show Oh, nice. Yeah. Oh, I definitely want to see the ah Steve Cogneady film. um You guys have made a lot of some of my favorite movies. So definitely we'll see.
00:41:47
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We wouldn't be who we are if we didn't have people like you guys talking about us and and watching our films. So thank you to you guys. Man, that's really cool. um did you have these so what are your top Did you see any movies in theaters this year?
00:41:59
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Yes, my favorite movie by a long shot was Strange Darling. Have you guys seen that? Oh yeah. ah yeah Phenomenal movie. I love everything about that movie. i think I think there needs to be more female characters like that. I think it was seeing Will Fitzgerald play that character. I feel like that's like a dream character for for you don't usually see that and i think it's kind of i think we're kind of getting to a place now where it's like okay we can write really strong female characters and we can write really good female characters and we should start doing that more often um so it was really cool to see that um i loved that movie i also saw um oh man what's the name of the movie uh shit it's uh
00:42:46
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It's a shutter movie. I can't remember the name of it, but I also saw it in a violent nature. That one was pretty fun too. I ah had had a lot of fun with that. Is it Mads or how do you pronounce that? but Which one? um Pat, you probably can pronounce it better than I can. I think it is Mads. ah matt Mads is another shutter producer. so that That was wild. I watched that like last week. What is that? I never heard of that. It's like it's French.
00:43:16
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it's just a very wild ah movie on shutter and um I, I saw the day came out by accident. And I have to rewatch it because it was in French, but I saw it by accident. And I was like, what the fuck am I watching? How long did it take you to know? It took me like, it took me like three quarters of the movie to realize, hey, this isn't fucking French. but it's a zo ma right I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's obvious. I'm so serious. It took me
00:43:50
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It took me like I got to close to the end of the movie and I was like, wait a minute, why the fuck were the subtitles matching the voice? And I was like, oh, this movie is not in English. And then I was like, I got to rewatch this movie. I was wondering why I didn't fucking understand anything. I was like, this is crazy. But the the movie itself was like way, way, way more than I thought. And I was like, this is a movie where I have to sit down and watch it.
00:44:17
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you were standing up He's standing up the whole time watching it. The other movie ah ah that I thought was phenomenal was Oddity. Have you guys seen Oddity? Oh, we did see that, yeah. We loved Oddity. I thought that was really, really well done. Yeah, it was from the director. What was the, what's what's his other movie called? yeaha Yeah, having yeah yeah um which is also a good movie. Damien something, right? Yeah.
00:44:45
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um but ah But yeah, those are my two favorite horror movies that came out this year. Fall Guy was a fun one um for non-horror things.
00:44:56
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um yeah it's it's hard It's hard to remember why. It feels like, I don't even know what came out in 2020. Have you seen some of the other, like have you seen like Cuckoo and um Long Legs? like Yeah, so I wasn't the biggest fan of long legs. I thought it was the beginning was really cool. I thought the tone of the world was really cool. I didn't like how it ended. um I kind of got a feeling this year that um there were a lot of movies that came out. It was good to see that they're doing a ton more.
00:45:31
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in horror and people are getting an opportunity to make more movies and and do more horror. um But I did feel like, especially the first half of the year, I felt like a lot of horror films had really cool concepts and really good um like initial first acts and second
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acts. But I don't think they knew what to do or how to land the plane with their cool concepts. And basically the third acts were not as great.
00:45:56
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So there were a couple of films like Long Legs was one of them. Late Night with the Devil was another one where the beginning middle loved, but the ending, I was kind of like, oh, not a fan of how they did that um there. but ah But yeah, there were there are some other things. The Substance was a wild movie. um I liked it. I didn't love the ending. I know I loved the ending. um Smile 2 was pretty awesome. um Did you see? Go ahead.
00:46:24
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Were you gonna say Blink twice? Blink twice, yeah. I haven't. I was flying back from New York last night and I saw it with like an hour left in my flight and I was like, shit, I should watch this movie. I was gonna say, I think Blink twice pairs really well as like a double feature with Strange Darlings. Oh, interesting. They have a lot of similar themes and similar vibes.
00:46:50
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Yeah, Blink twice I thought was amazing. I may subconsciously have like a crush on Channing Tatum, so I probably think that's why, um i for some weird reason, I've seen almost all of his movies. But fun but blink twice when it came out. I remember me and Joy went to go see it. Wait, am I lying? No, I think we did see it together. Yeah, we went to go see it. and um It was, a again, it was a breath of fresh air because it was it was fun to watch. It wasn't necessarily like creepy or anything like that. It was pretty creepy. Oh, yeah. What are you talking about? It was creepy. Let me backtrack. Let me backtrack. i met more like to i met more it was It was scary, but I meant more like um I'm afraid of almost everything in the world. And it didn't it like it was terrifying, but it what to me, it wasn't like
00:47:44
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all the devil's going to take you. you know that that kind of like I told you the first time we talked, I fucking hate Hell House Carmichael Manor because it scared the shit out of me. And movies like that, like I say I hate them. I love watching them.
00:47:59
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But they a lot of movies like that, they like, fuck they trigger something in me and they scare the shit out of me. And that was one of them. And like, um but Blink twice was, oh, it was so good. It was so fun. I feel like it was a nice, fresh story. And I think we saw the substance right after, oh, not a substance. um No, we saw Strange Darling. Strange Darling. Within like two days. And yeah, I just feel like they they go so well together. They're like very, very different stories.
00:48:26
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but there was a lot of similar themes. They were just both fresh fresh air, like breathing in morning air. It was just great to watch them too. Yeah, I'll give that a watch. um That was definitely on one of my lists that I wanted to say, so I'll definitely take a peek at it.
00:48:40
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If you don't like it, just blame my my weird fascination with Channing Tatum, but I think you will like it because it was a really good movie. Hey, um I'm a huge Channing Tatum fan, so I feel like you don't need to sell them um you don't need to sell me on Channing Tatum. I'm in.
00:48:57
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i got i this is I have the text somewhere. Maybe maybe I'll use the text as like the image for this, but I have a text where my cousin texts me. He's like, hey, my mom says you look like Channing Tatum, but I look nothing like him.
00:49:14
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and I feel like we got to email him a picture. I got to find a picture of that time in my life. And um I'll put this side by side so people could see. like Oh, yeah, just make it the the icon for the episode. I might. Yeah, if I find the text, I might make it the the icon. But I think ever since that day, I don't know what kind of sorcery um They did, but since then, I was like, I need to watch every single chain chain movie that's ever made. He's got a good amount of good ones. I'm with you, man. All the way. All right, cool. I don't feel so so alone now, man.
00:50:01
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I got two questions left. One, um have you had any good pizza recently? Ooh. so In the Westchester area of New York, in Sleepy Hollow, there's a pizza place called Beakman Ale House that does like bar pies, like so thin crust pizzas. They do a really good job of it. So I would i would recommend them. um That's probably the most recent one since ah since I've spoken to you that's new for pizzas. So I'd highly recommend it. You guys are up there. Nice. Yeah, i'm I'm a fan. I like Sleepy Hollow, the town.
00:50:40
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no So yeah, next time there I'm there, I'll check them out. I enjoyed like the sleepy Hollow West Chester, like East Chester, like Scarsdale. It's like a cute area. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And also just real quick, give us a like little summary of the film of your film or or a reason why people should watch it. A reason why or a summary? Which one would you prefer?
00:51:10
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A reason why. Okay. Reason why you should watch the movie is because it is not necessarily a parody and it's not necessarily a horror comedy. It's sort of a tongue in cheek spoof that kind of, it's an original story and it has stereotypical characters that we make fun of and and joke around with. So if you're interested in seeing a fun,
00:51:36
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unique whodunit movie that takes place at a cabin in the woods where you've seen those characters before but we're going to make fun of them while we're doing it. This is the movie for you. How'd I do it? All three. I've already watched it so you sold me. Awesome. You convinced us. Yeah. Awesome. Yeah. Thanks so much for hopping on.
00:51:59
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Yeah, thank you guys for having me. um I always love getting together and chatting with you guys. I'm going to definitely check out lowlifes and I will make sure I watch Blink twice. um So thank you for the recommendations and yeah and keep doing your thing, guys. We're killing it. We're just having fun. Love it. Same. Yeah, good.
00:52:23
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like cool Thanks a lot, Joe. I appreciate it. Yeah, man. yeah Happy holidays, everyone. in oh yeah happy out time The best Christmas movie of all time. Yeah. See you guys. yeah yeah Take care.