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Oscars Tea
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The year is 2025. The Oscars are approaching and the tea is HOT!
Which joke landed worse, Enrique's or Julia's? Was Adrian Brody wild for his SNL shenanigans? Does he ever apologize for anything? What era is the best for tea - social media era where everything is accessible to everyone at every moment, or before when you heard about it once in a while and it was juicy af? Should Enrique know how to have a Mexican accent since he's Mexican? Did you ever think that Ariana Grande was Latina? Should she have kept up that bit or is White more her speed? Should Emilia Perez have gotten such a decline in popularity because of all of the controversy, and why did you answer hell yea? What is the WILDEST thing that Karla Sofía Gascón said? HOW THE HELL DID PAT NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS BUT ENRIQUE DID? Was Netflix wild for knowing all of this and still being like "welp, got our bread, who cares"? How do you feel about Selena Gomez crying on social media? Is there any tea that we missed that was good?
Thanks for listening! Enjoy!
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Transcript
00:00:00
Speaker
Sounds familiar. All right, Pat. Cole, we recording? Yep. All right.
Introduction and Oscar Strategies
00:00:07
Speaker
Another episode of what we saw last night. We're doing something a little different this week where we're going to take an introspective look into the Oscars and what people need to win and the campaigns they run and what might be working against them.
00:00:22
Speaker
um So, yeah, I don't have a warm-up question prepared. Because it's been busy week. That's fine. Yeah, we'll just... Okay, we'll get started.
Adrian Brody's SNL Ban and Oscar Race
00:00:34
Speaker
and Yeah.
00:00:36
Speaker
on So the first thing I have on the list, and I think this is kind of what inspired the list, is as soon as Adrian Brody was announced as being nominated for Best Actor, everybody started popping up and saying, oh well, he's banned from NSL or...
00:00:56
Speaker
and ah SNL Saturday Night Live. So he's banned, so he can't be SNL to you know support his campaign, which is what people typically do when they're like Oscar nominated.
00:01:12
Speaker
Because Adrian Brody actually won an Oscar 2003 for weirdly a similar role to this one but around the time- the pianists Yeah, which is also like a Holocaust movie.
00:01:29
Speaker
So, same same vibes, I guess. I don't really know what else he's in. I guess he only does Holocaust movies. but um He was in... Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. That was Bradley Cooper.
00:01:42
Speaker
I confused it. It was Bradley Cooper. Anyway, he won an Oscar. He's in a... He is in a lot of movies that are- It was a joke. It didn't land. I thought, no, no, no, no it did. i was trying to make a joke and say he was in um that movie last year, because I kept thinking the nose, but that was Bradley Cooper.
00:02:03
Speaker
So my joke failed, but it turned out to be a good joke. So I'm sorry, go on. Yeah, he won an Oscar for The Pianist. And around that time, he went on SNL.
00:02:13
Speaker
I believe he was hosting- And when he was introducing the musical guest, Sean Paul, who is Jamaican, he wore like a stereotypical Jamaican costume and did an accent and had like a whole bit like playing this Jamaican character.
00:02:35
Speaker
And supposedly Adrian Brody came up with that original idea and pitched it to the SNL writers. And they were like, all right, sounds good. We're going to write it in They did that.
00:02:48
Speaker
they They rehearsed it. They even did dress rehearsals. He wore a wig with dreadlocks. Like this was all planned ahead of time. But when the show rolled around, obviously it's live.
00:03:00
Speaker
He added a bunch of stuff to this bit that was not originally in it. And he used like some slurs that are like Jamaican slurs about like gay men and just different like It became way more offensive and poor taste than it already was. Like, it was already planned that he was going to be wearing this, like, Jamaican costume.
00:03:23
Speaker
But he just took it up to the next level. And notoriously, the writers of SNL don't like when people, like, ad-lib or do...
00:03:35
Speaker
um But he said he just came, like, he just improvised it all on the spot. but Right, but the thing like they planned for him to, like, do an accent and wear the costume. like that he doesn't He didn't just show up with the wig. Like, they planned for that part.
00:03:49
Speaker
um But they were not happy about, like, the dialogue that he added because contrary to belief, everything on SNL is, like, scripted and written. They really don't ad-lib anything.
00:04:06
Speaker
um, Lorne Michaels was pissed when this happened. So apparently the big headline for a while was, okay, now Adrian Brody can't go on SNL because he's banned.
00:04:20
Speaker
The thing is, there is no proof that he was ever banned from SNL. He has just never appeared on it again since 2003.
00:04:30
Speaker
But, he go ahead. They don't, they don't need, they're not invited, like, Yeah, like I don't know if SNL has like an official you're banned list outside of Rage Against the Machine because they dropped the F-bomb on... Right.
00:04:45
Speaker
But like, I don't think... i just think they're not... They're just not inviting him back because... Yeah, exactly. That's what I was going to say. It's like, he's like, oh, well, they never banned me. I never got a letter from Lorne Michaels saying I was banned. And it's like...
00:05:00
Speaker
I don't think they send out letters. I think they just don't invite you back on. So that the fact of the matter is it's been over 20 years and he has not been invited back on SNL.
00:05:11
Speaker
um And that could possibly affect his running in the Oscar race because we all know it's just like a game of favorites and whatnot.
00:05:24
Speaker
And you know, it's a shame because I like Adrian Brody. I've seen a lot of movies with him and I do enjoy Adrian Brody, but that is what well remember the last time he won though.
00:05:36
Speaker
He kissed Holly Berry. was just saying, didn't he like, he kissed Holly Berry and that was super inappropriate. even yeah For some reason, that's like a common thing that people did back in like the early two thousands was like non-consensual kissing at award shows.
00:05:55
Speaker
obviously the culture was very different then. Um, you could, but like there was, there's backlash then for Adrian Brody on Holly Berry. And like that stuff, like a lot of people, and know that like they bring up, like, that's the first thing they think of like, Oh, this is the guy that like violated Holly Berry.
00:06:15
Speaker
So yeah, I don't think he should win it because there's just better performances, but yeah, like this is, you know, like, there is some problematic things. My question for you guys is what does he need to do to get past this to win? Like what if you were him, what would your campaign look like?
Can Adrian Brody Redeem Himself?
00:06:35
Speaker
Honestly, I don't think that like saying slurs and being racist and like appropriating culture and being a caricature of a Jamaican man, I don't think any of that's acceptable.
00:06:50
Speaker
However, you happened in 2003 when, And it's 2025. So I think it's fair that he was not ever invited back on SNL, but I don't know how much that has an effect on his current race. The Holly Berry thing, that is probably worse because that he like physically assaulted someone. It's just, it's so weird. Cause and I'm not defending it, but I'm just saying it's so weird. Cause like, it was so long ago when
00:07:22
Speaker
it And it was never okay, but it was okay, if you know what I mean, right? Right. And it's's it's it's weird how, like, the older we get, and the more time goes on and we remember certain things.
00:07:33
Speaker
You know, we we... It doesn't cross... Well, at least it doesn't cross my mind when people do fucked up stuff because i only know fucked up stuff.
00:07:45
Speaker
And it's hard for me because... Like, him kissing Halle Berry, I'm just like, they're actors. Maybe they talked about it. maybe like It never crossed my mind.
00:07:57
Speaker
And, you know, whether they did, whether they planned it, didn't plan it, whether she was like, no, and he did it anyways, whether she had no idea. i don't know, you know?
00:08:08
Speaker
But then that was 20-plus years ago. And him doing, like, fucked-up shit was 20-plus years ago. Now, again, I'm not defending none of that, but... it's it's in I think I'm saying it more like it's interesting to me how these things still come up.
00:08:25
Speaker
Because I don't know what he's done in these past 20-some years in his personal life. to to like Has he done any good? Has he done any bad in his personal life?
00:08:36
Speaker
I don't ever hear about him. Ever, like at all. So I assume, you know, maybe he just doesn't care about doing stupid shit anymore. He's older. He's in his 50s. So, I mean, he was what?
00:08:54
Speaker
He was 29 in 2003. Yeah. So, you know, it's like young Hollywood. I hope he wasn't that young. He's been in movies for a while. But, you know, it's just fascinating to me how these things get brought back up.
00:09:08
Speaker
or kind of get, like, thrown into the equation because, like, I wonder. I think it should be, though. like No, I agree. Because there's no, like, Holly Berry has talked numerous times about how she didn't like It it made her feel uncomfortable.
00:09:25
Speaker
Yeah. um he's He's never apologized. No, I haven't. And Sean Paul, too, said, like, oh, I thought that was really dumb. Like, he's taken to Twitter a few times. Like, in the past, I remember him seeing, like,
00:09:39
Speaker
um he's just like, oh that was really stupid. Like, it was uncalled for. And like, that's all really he's spoken about. So you get two people that are, you know, like, I'm not saying influential, but like, you know, like that he's kind of offended.
00:09:55
Speaker
And if I was him and I'm running a campaign to win an award, I would do like, you know, it's 2025. You could always say you're sorry.
00:10:07
Speaker
can always say that you've learned and grown as a person, even if you didn't. So, like, if I was him, I would try to, like, have ah something with Holly Berry, like apologizing or, like, in an interview together.
00:10:21
Speaker
i don't know, like addressing it. Because I think addressing it is always good public relations. You don't want to, like, hide from your mistakes and hope that time just buries them. Is it too late, though, for something like that?
00:10:33
Speaker
It's never too late to say you're sorry. No, no, no. i'm not talking about being a fucking dickhead i'm talking about like is it too late for him to clean that up you know like if you ain't done it in 20 years you're never gonna and it's not like they never i'm sure they've crossed paths at some point um but like i mean as of last year holly berry on like an interview because i'm looking it up said she's never she hasn't really talked to him since then yeah And I think he has always been like kind of very dismissive of all of these things. Like even like the SNL thing, he's like, oh, well, I didn't write it
00:11:12
Speaker
I gave the idea to the writers and they wrote it and I embellished it But it's he doesn't really take responsibility for anything that he's done. But I mean, what man does?
00:11:23
Speaker
So here we are.
00:11:27
Speaker
yeah i just i I like his movies. i just I wonder what he's done in these past... I guess nothing. I guess absolutely nothing, which is why this is still a thing. like i've I would assume at some point, if it keeps getting brought up 20 years later, you would have someone in your crew that's going to be like, yo, come on, man. Just fucking write a a fucking post or something. right Put out a statement. I think it's worth like considering that even though ah SNL didn't approve everything that he said, they did like write and rehearse that scene.
00:12:09
Speaker
And they also did not cut it out of like reruns of SNL. Like you can still watch it today on official streaming platforms. Whenever you watch that episode, that clip is in there. It hasn't been removed.
00:12:22
Speaker
There was no, apology from the writers for it. It was never addressed. And I don't watch SNL like that religiously to know like how common that was, like that much like cultural appropriation. But clearly clearly, it was okay on the show at the time. like Clearly, SNL writers were okay with showing a white man in like a dreadlock wig with a Jamaican accent.
00:12:48
Speaker
and And it's not even... And I know that they are not in the Oscar running, but I think they also hold some of the responsibility for that. I just think it's like it's that it wasn't even funny.
00:13:01
Speaker
get what I'm Like, I can understand if maybe it was like a little funny and like I chuckled and was like, you know, it's kind of funny. It wasn't even funny. You know, like that I think that was the part where i think that's the part where.
00:13:16
Speaker
I don't know why SNL still has it up. I mean, I would assume such a... They're not going to cut anything. I just... i Personally, I... and I love some some stuff that I probably shouldn't think is funny is funny.
00:13:31
Speaker
I'm not going to get into detail because I want people to... ah um ah I would rather people assume than, you know, but that wasn't even funny. Like, that wasn't even remotely close to being funny. And I could understand if it was like...
00:13:45
Speaker
not tasteful, but maybe like, but that it wasn't nothing like that. So even something like that, I can, I can, I can even understand his stance on that where he's just like, I didn't even, this wasn't even my fucking idea.
00:13:57
Speaker
Like I can, I can understand his stance on that, but at the same time, you're still a professional. I expect him to be a bigger person. like Right, right. But I'm saying you're still professional. So you still have to, it goes back to that, to that top, to that talk we had about like,
00:14:14
Speaker
walking out of the Golden Globes or, like, athletes not shaking hands. Like, you're still a professional. Like, if you did something like that, write a fucking Twitter post, you know? Like, do the bare minimum and just write something online. Have your fucking ah agent write something. You know, like, the have something like that. Put it out. Yeah, the thing is, he's commented on all of it over the years, and just every time he seems to be like, oh, well, it wasn't.
00:14:43
Speaker
yeah like it wasn't my fault and if it was i didn't mean it and if i did i'm not really sorry like i don't like and he is a guy like he has commented a lot on other things and he's very vocal on other things which at times is good like you know he'll be outspoken on like he was very much like outspoken against israel um and what whatever people want to make for that. But it's like, if you're going to be outspoken of other people's actions and government's actions, you know, take some responsibility yourself.
00:15:19
Speaker
Yeah, because he has addressed these situations many times. He's just never apologized. He'll reference it. He'll be like, oh, I didn't really mean it. or wasn't that serious or it wasn't my idea, but he he has never apologized.
00:15:34
Speaker
as As of 2017, interview, He said all he remembers of accepting the the Oscar for the pianist was the kiss on Holly Berry, saying that was like the highlight of it, which I think like that's way too late to be saying something like that.
00:15:51
Speaker
Yeah, well. And like that's like really childish and dumb. It's kind of fascinating to think about because obviously like I was not an adult in 2003, but I am currently 29 the age that he was.
00:16:04
Speaker
twenty nine the age that he was And like, I know that that's not appropriate. And I have probably known that for the last 15 years of my life. i'll I'll say at least, at least.
00:16:17
Speaker
So, and I know the culture was very different in 2003, but I was eight years old and I just don't have a good understanding of like how different it was. And like, does that make a difference?
00:16:32
Speaker
Well, in 2003, into like Go ahead, Pat. I'm saying there was backlash to this. Right. But it wasn't as much as it would be today. like Right, exactly.
00:16:46
Speaker
People today would be like rioting in the streets. His house would be egged. People would throw bricks at him. Like it would be way more serious. Like.
00:16:58
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's... And I think it's the times, too. Because i was when i when I was glancing at this earlier, a lot of the stuff that I was thinking... i well I'll get into it later, what I was thinking ah in particular. But it was the times, too. Because if you didn't see it on TV, you only heard about it.
00:17:18
Speaker
And you don't visually understand how that... Like, how uncomfortable she may have looked. You know, things like that. And in 2003... I was 13 years old and I knew that was wrong. Even as like as a man, i knew, well, as a teen, because wasn't a man yet, but even as a guy, i knew, i can't just walk up to a, even in high school, middle school, I couldn't walk up to a girl and just kiss her.
00:17:45
Speaker
You know, I'd probably get the shit beat out of me. And if I didn't, I'd get into a lot of trouble. And I knew these things, you know, i I've seen the movie, The Wood. I know what happens when you do that kind of stuff. So,
00:17:59
Speaker
I just, like you know, you're, i guess when you're a star and you do things you live some kind of weird life, I don't know, maybe that stuff has something to do with it. But 13, I knew you couldn't just do that.
00:18:14
Speaker
And like up to now, I know you still can't do that. So I don't. I don't know. and That's fair. its It's the, you know, it's still, the the thing is, it's still the same thing. It's it's the same as, as um the the the photo of the seller or of the seller in the nurse, you know, the, the, the, um what do you call it? V-Day photo.
00:18:40
Speaker
um That's not what people think either. You know, that actually, that photo is super offensive. And, they They know each other. That's assault also, if you want to, you know, go deep into it.
00:18:53
Speaker
But like, even like, at the times, you're not thinking of it as that, you know, you're thinking of it as like, oh, man, Halle Berry, wow, she is so hot, you know, and you're not seeing like the person, you know,
00:19:10
Speaker
and In those times, it's a little different now because social media also had it been that had happened now when it happened. I mean, it would have blown up a lot bigger than than it did then because it was a big thing then. But like I said, you just heard about it if you didn't see it.
00:19:27
Speaker
And, you know, you kind of made your opinions off that. But now. it'd be literally, you'd see it for for a week on TV. You'd see it in fucking means. Like it it would, come it would literally be in your brain for forever.
00:19:44
Speaker
So, you know, I guess it's that too. He kind of got away with it because of the times, um you know, there wasn't just that much exposure then. And 20 plus years, you got at least at some point say, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. yeah I mean, like I said, I wasn't an adult in 2003. Yeah.
00:20:02
Speaker
But if I think about like the adults in my life at the time, I don't think they took it seriously. like It just was not... like By people who were adults at the time, they did not view it the same way.
00:20:14
Speaker
Even though like we were kids, you could say at 13, you'd be like, oh, that's wrong. But I don't know, what would your parents think of it? They might not even it's so bad.
00:20:25
Speaker
My parents didn't know it happened. like I would be shocked if they knew... like They just don't care enough about anything related to the os like if they probably like didn't pay attention definitely didn't watch the oscars and if it was on the and it was probably on the news they either like tuned it out or were too busy doing things to even care remotely like I don't mean what were your literal parents doing? i thought you did. I was like, well, I just don't think they can.
00:21:01
Speaker
I'm not asking, did your mother watch the Oscars at 8 p.m. that night? No, but like, what would they have thought? Or think of like adults that you knew at the time, like what would their reaction have been? That's a good question, too, because I'm thinking, I don't know.
00:21:15
Speaker
i don't know if my parents would have cared. and i think it And I'm saying that as I'm not sure it would process in their head as to what's really happening. and just They would just see it as, because I saw it as, they're just actors. I don't know what, you know, it's a TV show. Like, it's TV. Yeah, I so i think maybe as a kid, I would have saw it and thought, oh, that's icky, that's bad, i don't like that.
00:21:39
Speaker
But I might have also thought, those are grownups. They work together or they're at work, and maybe that's what... should like i don't I don't know. and In my head, it was just they're they're they're on TV.
00:21:53
Speaker
And yeah this kind of stuff happens on TV. Now, when I learned years later that I was like, oh, he just kind of planted it and on it. That's different. Yeah, i think I think the context also matters because you didn't really find out until later her reaction to it.
00:22:06
Speaker
looked uncomfortable at the time, but that could have been like... Her being sub surprised. but His breath stunk. That's literally what she said. she was like Yeah, but I'm saying that context didn't come out until after it happened.
00:22:19
Speaker
She didn't make a statement until after it happened. Anyway, we can move on from this. but so like The AI is really interesting. Julia, if you want Yeah, yeah. Speaking of Adrian
AI in 'The Brutalists' and Accent Authenticity
00:22:30
Speaker
Brody... The nose.
00:22:33
Speaker
Yeah, they... oh right Yeah, there's criticism of the Brutalists because they used AI in the film. So Adrian Brody plays a Hungarian man in the film.
00:22:48
Speaker
And if you didn't know, he is literally Hungarian. His parents are literally from Hungary. yet they're not starving.
00:22:59
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Yeah. But like he can, you know, he can speak Hungarian. He can do the accent just fine. um Felicity Jones who played his wife in the movie not Hungarian but she did work with a dialect coach for many months but the editor of the film chose to use ai to manipulate their voices at some points in the film to make their accent and dialect more authentic because the edit editor was also native to Hungary and that is his language so
00:23:34
Speaker
he trained the ah AI using his own voice and use that to like slightly manipulate certain parts of the dialogue. um And people are bashing it because obviously we hate ai um but they insist that there were just minor changes made to make it more authentic. But like in my research, I did find, cause I didn't know he was Hungarian. I find that interesting, like,
00:24:00
Speaker
obviously adrian brody didn't have a huge problem like and i know he he has an american accent he's been here his entire life but when your parents like i don't know okay i do not agree i guess i guess you would know um yeah yeah i realize i just i just had a revelation right now and i'm just realizing a lot things i'm literally right here
00:24:31
Speaker
So, okay. um I'll just give you my expertise on this. um
00:24:39
Speaker
it So, I don't i don't have ah Mexican accent. and i don't okay Okay, but hear me out. But I can't i can't make one either is where I was going with. So, so you're saying if you practice a lot and you really tried, you couldn't...
00:24:52
Speaker
You couldn't do it film? No, no. Well, that's where I'm getting at, though. So, like, I don't have... I was saying, Enrique, we're going give you $5 million. No, no, no. Listen. Because, listen, that's where I was going with this. I don't have an accent.
00:25:04
Speaker
um I can't make an accent. But if you were paying me to to have that accent, I will have that accent. You know what I'm saying Like, I don't have it at all. I've never... no when i was When I was younger and I used to ah be on the loop, people thought I was black. Girls thought I was black.
00:25:23
Speaker
you I don't know what that means. I don't know either. But they would just be like, there's no way- your accent? But what was your accent? No, no. Just like this. How I talk now. But that that was the- It was like, I would tell them like, no, no, no. not I'm Mexican. they're like, no, there's no fucking way.
00:25:36
Speaker
So I don't know what that means. But the point I'm trying to make is, I personally- Damn. they They really said you don't sound Mexican. Yeah, yeah. Like, they wouldn't believe it. And then they'd see me and be like, you white. You lying. But the- I can't make one.
00:25:52
Speaker
i don't know. and And I've tried it. I've always wanted one because I think they're like, I think it's it accents are interesting, you know? So yeah I've always wanted to learn how to do accents. But if you're going to fucking pay me, I'm hiring a dialect coach.
00:26:07
Speaker
You know, like but I'm not going to half-ass it, especially not in 2024. Like I'm not half-assing it. Yeah. You get saying? Yeah. But you you are kind of the authority on this. Like how how difficult would it be?
00:26:19
Speaker
Super fucking easy. for you to like I hear it all the time. Right. So um yeah that's why I say, I'm not saying he has a Hungarian accent. I'm saying how hard yeah how hard could it be? like For him? like Call your mom. The thing is, he's a professional actor. Come on, man. Adrian Brody, I fucking love... like I saw Summer and Sam when I was younger.
00:26:44
Speaker
And that... I don't know how good it holds up now, but to me that movie was phenomenal. was like... Oh, it still holds up. That movie fucking raps. Does it? Okay. So I thought it was phenomenal when I first saw it. And then I'm like, you know, now... now I haven't seen in a long time.
00:26:58
Speaker
But then, like, the Predators movie with him and Alice Braga and and and Danny Trejo and all of them. You know, like, he was... I like these movies. there's ah There's a few movies that he's in that I really, really like.
00:27:11
Speaker
But it's like, dude, come on now, man. Like... I don't look this kind of stuff up and now it's like I'm hearing it and it's like, you're kind of corny, man. You know, like if your parents, if your parents have an accent, for example, his parents have a Hungarian accent, right? I'm assuming maybe they, have a teacher who has a very slight like accent from Barbados.
00:27:38
Speaker
But when I met her back in like two thousand one- ish her fucking accent was thick, you know, cause she had just got there. So her accent was thick. Now she doesn't. So you do lose it. But the thing is you hear it throughout your whole life. You got family, you got, you hear that stuff throughout your whole life.
00:27:56
Speaker
So not even just that, But you didn't want to take the time to practice it. I mean, just practice. you The thing is, how many movies have we seen? Actually, this year I heard. i had still haven't seen Amelia Perez.
00:28:10
Speaker
But hear the accents are bad there. like Yeah. and so So, like, how many... Do you think they should have used AI to make the accents better? Here's my take. I understand why it was done. Because I think even though his parents are Hungarian...
00:28:25
Speaker
there are, if he's like, has tons of dialogue throughout the film, there are going to be times where it does not sound clean and correct. So I understand the want to correct that. I think it could have been done differently. i think they could have just re-recorded it. I think they could have done ADR. They could have re-shot the scene, but I don't think the director was Hungarian.
00:28:49
Speaker
Maybe they were, but like, It would be hard like while you're filming to check for these things. And I could see how it would be caught later in editing. But but i think like I just don't condone like the use of AI really ever in films. It's like you would just have to hire someone.
00:29:07
Speaker
you would just have to have... you If you knew... if a person Okay, I'm a director. And I know i need to have good Russian accents. Right? I'm going to hire someone.
00:29:18
Speaker
And the accents aren't going to be good. You know I'm saying? they're not going like perfect. You're not going to understand them because they're probably coming from an American, but they'll be good enough. and And the thing is, good enough is better than bad is better than i didn't even try.
00:29:34
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i I think it's really hard to say because one, i don't speak Hungarian, two, i don't speak a second language. So I wouldn't be able to like, it would be interesting to listen to like the original music recording versus like the edited one but I wouldn't know the difference, but I'd be interested to see like how major the changes were, like what the changes were.
00:30:02
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Like, I can't really judge without knowing like what it would sound like to a native speaker. and and and the AI part is what it is at this point.
00:30:13
Speaker
um i think the the but the the trouble I'm having with this is you can literally have an intern, you know what I'm saying? Like, but, but there's, but just, just to get the. Right. But to play devil's advocate, the director does not give a shit about that when they're trying to get scenes filmed and they're working on a time crunch and the Hungarian intern is like, wait, that doesn't quite sound right. They're going to be like, who gives a fuck?
00:30:45
Speaker
We shot the scene. like Everything else was perfect. We're not going to stop production. Right, but you do voiceovers. They do it all the time. I agree. I think if you had to, it should have been replaced with ADR. I think more so, I wouldn't care if this were like... mean ADR is technically a type of AI.
00:31:04
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Right. And I was also going to mention like it, the way the editor describes it, he kind of says he used AI, but then he like manually replaced it. And AI means a lot of different things.
00:31:17
Speaker
Yeah. ADR is AI. So. Yeah. But here's here's, here's my quick, here's my quick thing. And then, cause I, I,
00:31:29
Speaker
Oh God, I lost my train of thought. God damn it. So he, he it's not necessarily because it's AI, right? let's let's let's let's Let's just say, right, it's a movie with fucking Channing Tatum in it and they used AI and they gave him, you know, they did something, right? It's like, okay, cool, wish you wouldn't have done it, but he's up for an Oscar and to know, because to know that you, this was not you.
00:31:59
Speaker
So we're giving you an Oscar for half the performance. The editor claims like the performance is all them. They just tweaked like certain vowels of words. They said that changes, they were like, it is Adrian Brody's performance.
00:32:14
Speaker
It is not replaced by AI. They literally changed like syllables of words. But that's where if it, if, if you're getting nominated, you have to take the effort to change those syllables of those words.
00:32:29
Speaker
Because that's part of the acting. That's part of what their job is. You know like there's you can have AI for stuff and it kind of go you know it can for whatever things. But if you're talking about nominating somebody, for for one, for best picture, right but two, for best actor, the the best actor part, that's 90% you.
00:32:55
Speaker
that's ninety percent you So you're nominating someone who didn't give you 100%. You do have a point with that. I agree. Yeah, I but i don't think they should have done that.
00:33:09
Speaker
The thing is, i haven't seen the movie yet. But if his performance was that good, as as if his performance was that good, that and I think he won Best Actor in the Golden Globes, I don't remember 100%, but if his performance was that good,
00:33:26
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then everybody would looked past an accent that's not. Yeah. I mean, this film was released in the United States. Like we don't speak Hungarian. We would not know any different.
00:33:38
Speaker
No, and I don't know. No, no. We would totally like, if it, if it was like, if he gave you a decent Hungarian accent,
00:33:49
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you wouldn't know the difference that it wasn't. Yeah. Because from my understanding. would for some people, just like the way some. la Yeah. But those people aren't voting though. You what I'm saying? They might be.
00:34:00
Speaker
The old white men voting don't speak Hungarian. Like. Yeah. I don't like, I think I'm not defending the use of it, but I totally understand why they used it.
00:34:12
Speaker
And it seems like they, you know, they used it in like the most ethical of way. So I'm not like, say I'm against it. I'm not for it. I don't think he should win. Yeah, I do think it was. But we're going to see this over and over again. And yeah, like this is just going to be part of the future.
00:34:31
Speaker
my my Here's my official view on it. He should get nominated, regard even knowing this, he should get nominated, but you can't win giving us 90% performance. I feel like everything we've talked about so far, knock him off the list. He's off the roster.
00:34:48
Speaker
aie Adrian Brody, you're out. And I'm going to go see it. It's in it's in theaters. I'm going to go see it. I just... Nominating him, he probably deserves it. And I'll let you guys know when I see it. Probably deserves it. Most likely deserves it.
00:35:05
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know about that. No, and I'm saying I don't know either. But i'm I'm just saying maybe he had a great performance. I don't know. but I've seen most of the the the best film movies.
00:35:17
Speaker
And I can think of other actors that I would want in there. Right. haven't seen the Brutalist yet, so. But is he, I'm saying though, is he, is he like top 11? Do you think there's someone that you would put in over him out of this year's films? Well, mean, that's hard to say. probably There's a lot of films that, you know, i mean, I don't know. I probably would have put in, I don't know.
00:35:45
Speaker
Point is, I don't, You can't give us 90% and expect us to appreciate 90%. I can't do 90% of job and get paid 100% of my shitty pay.
00:35:59
Speaker
You get what saying? And he's doing 90% of his job and he's getting 100% of the rewards. So it's that kind of thing. You can't give me that. and I mean, like no, he did the work.
00:36:13
Speaker
they He didn't edit the accent. He didn't do the accent? And that's a big part of the accent. He did. Okay, let's just say they tweaked it. Let's say Bill Skarsgård didn't give us an accent.
00:36:25
Speaker
He gave us his, he gave us like how he talks or let's say like um and literally anyone doesn't give us. But that's, but that's different. He didn't not do the accent.
00:36:37
Speaker
He did the accent and they made very minor changes to like a couple syllables of words. It's not like he didn't have a Hungarian accent and they put an AI filter on it and gave them one. Yeah. This isn't like, there's like,
00:36:54
Speaker
There's like ah Instagram reels or TikToks where they have like an AI voice read over like a story. This is not like that. oh this is yeah yeah i would And like saying 90% is way, I feel like it's closer to like 99%.
00:37:08
Speaker
well It seems like it's like a handful of syllables, which would make up probably less than 1% of the talking. I think you have a good point that maybe that should be considered and whether or not he can win because it may not be 100% his performance. But I think the changes are so minor that I don't think.
00:37:29
Speaker
Then it shouldn't win best picture because that's not 100%.
00:37:34
Speaker
Regardless, it doesn't. What does that have to do with best picture? It doesn't matter. right. All right. we are saying we alright All right, moving on. Next point.
Cultural Appropriation and Oscar Contenders
00:37:43
Speaker
Speaking of cultural appropriation and accents, Ariana Grande is known for, um, well, one, she's nominated for best supporting actress in Wicked, best actress in a supporting role, whatever.
00:37:58
Speaker
Um, but she is like very well known for like blackfishing or doing not blackface, but, um, People even give her the nickname Blackiana because she had this whole persona for many years where she was like very much blackfishing, wearing like an extremely dark tan, like many shades darker than her skin tone and also using AAVE.
00:38:29
Speaker
And ever since she has been in Wicked, she is copyright striking and taking down all videos and interviews from this era. to like get rid of any evidence of her blackfishing.
00:38:43
Speaker
um She's also known for like appropriating and posing as other cultures. She doesn't like lean into it a ton, but like most people just think that Ariana Grande is Latina and she's not, she's just Italian, but she doesn't like, I mean, she has kind of like leaned into it before and like let people assume that and even like made jokes about it.
00:39:07
Speaker
But she also appropriates Japanese culture a lot and like does stupid shit, like puts Japanese lyrics in her songs, but like not in a way that shows appreciation. She's just like super uneducated. She also got a tattoo in Japanese that is like blatantly misspelled.
00:39:25
Speaker
And she has a private Japanese tutor that is like teaching her Japanese, and she did not ask or consult the tutor before she like got this tattoo that is blatantly incorrect.
00:39:37
Speaker
also I'm fine with the tattoo. Are you fine her being a home wrecker? i don't care. Whose ra home did she wreck? um Her husband and also Ethan Slater's wife.
00:39:50
Speaker
no please Oh, yeah, I do. yeah Either one or both of them were married at the time that they began dating. I mean, it's February, Pat. If you don't believe in love, just say so. No, no, i I forgot. You know, yeah she found love in and in a... She really saw Ethan Slater's goofy looking ass and destroyed two marriages over it.
00:40:13
Speaker
That's right. I forgot about that. That's funny. Like, I'm going to fucking risk it all. But what do you guys think about the blackfishing? so so I remember this, like that era of Ariana.
00:40:26
Speaker
And like, I think it's like she was very young. And I'm not like making an excuse for it. It started like long time ago. I just assumed she was like a lost chola until I read this and I'm like, oh wait, yeah i think she's not Latina. So she's not. No, like everyone thought she was Latina.
00:40:48
Speaker
I thought she was just like one of those like girls from... And like, I don't know if you've seen, but like this is this is a before and after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember her. i remember her specifically. Yeah, but like that's... Yeah, yeah. So like I remember dark Ariana Grande.
00:41:04
Speaker
um And I would always think that... I didn't know until I literally read this earlier and I was like, Oh wait, she's not okay. That makes sense. You know? Cause I just assumed she was, assumed she, I don't know anything about her, but I would see her and I just saw like, okay, it's just some Spanish girl. Now she's famous, you know, just some famous Spanish girl. Like I didn't, I never put two and two together cause I never cared to, but this is fascinating stuff. Cause um i I mean, i don't understand. i got a cousin who used to lie about being Mexican.
00:41:38
Speaker
And up to this day, would probably still lie. And it's like, I don't i don't understand that process of And again, she's never like explicitly lied about her race. She never claimed to be black, but it's like, why are you making your skin so dark? Like, I don't know. I personally don't believe in like any type of tanning at all whatsoever.
00:42:00
Speaker
Bare minimum, I think it's ugly and like goofy. Like you, I feel like people... look worse with a tan no matter what like your skin color is your skin color um white people tanning will never not look goofy to me like you don't look good you don't look like someone with darker skin you just look like dirty i'm really white so like i'm like really really really light and um Yeah, I just don't believe in people like getting spray tans or like sitting in the sun or a tanning bed to like make them themselves darker. i i just think it's goofy. Yeah, like I never in my life... I mean, I wished I wasn't, you know, because it looks goofy. Because when I would... I spent a lot spent almost every summer outside, and I get like tans on my arm, I get tans on like my neck and my face and all that. But like above the knee...
00:42:57
Speaker
like I unfortunately do have some like Rocky Balboa short shorts from Rocky III. And above the knee, very white. I mean, I'm talking like you would be confused as to am I culturally appropriate. Like you would think that I'm pulling an Ariana Grande.
00:43:17
Speaker
So, ah but I never understand. No, like, like I'm, when I say I'm genuine, I mean, I can't show anybody now, but when I say I'm genuinely like light, i am very, very light.
00:43:30
Speaker
And there's, there's a difference between, well, one tanning is ah extremely bad for you. Like no matter what, it is so bad for your skin. No one should be tanning. You should be wearing sunscreen every single day.
00:43:43
Speaker
There is a difference between, tanning intentionally and the natural tan you get just from like being someone who doesn't wear sunscreen daily but that's where i was going to go that's where i was going at is i get tan so i look like i'm somewhat tan but i'm not this is all a front it's me not ever taking care of myself with with sunscreens ah can tell Yeah, yeah. Don't please don't.
00:44:10
Speaker
I'm really insecure. But so the the the the whole idea of... the thing is, she... Well, do you think she should address the skin issue? oh So, the thing is, I feel like it's way more telling that she is scrubbing the internet of any evidence of this era and, like, copyright striking videos of, like, literally, like, an interview with her...
00:44:37
Speaker
And it's like very specifically these interviews where she has like very, very dark skin and makeup and like, or is speaking a certain way or doing a certain voice. Like she's not copyright striking like all of every video of her, all of her old interviews. She is like strategically taking down evidence of this.
00:45:00
Speaker
Well, when I saw, because like I said, I honestly truly do not know at all anything about her. When I saw Wicked, I immediately immediately thought, this doesn't sound nor look like her.
00:45:14
Speaker
So I was like, oh, wow, they did a really good job. you know She must be that great because it doesn't sound like her. The little bit I do know about her. it sound like her. I don't know, man. Maybe again, I don't know anything about her, but the little bit I do know about her from whenever she came across on TV or something.
00:45:32
Speaker
And again, i don't I really could not care less um if she's tanning, if she's not tanning, if she's doing it. I don't care about any of that. i I my thing is.
00:45:46
Speaker
If you're going to do something or if you're going to say something or if you're going to be a certain way and then you find out that that's kind of like goofy or silly or might hurt your chances at the fucking Oscars, you got you can't pretend like it never happened. You've got to own up to it, you know?
00:46:04
Speaker
I think is that should should this affect her? I don't know because I think, again, I... It's only weird because she's like you're like Julia said, like because she's scrubbing the internet clean. Right. weird It's like having a super dark tan to people to where people are confused about your race. That's that's pretty icky, but I don't know if it's like criminal offensive.
00:46:30
Speaker
Especially since like if you like move out of something and like move out of a phase and like I get like and she's evolving as like whatever she is if she's changing as like a person and and not doing this anymore, it's like, yeah, best to leave in the past. Just like she's not overly, like when she first came out, there was a lot of like, over she was like very overly sexualized, but she was also like making people feel weird because she was also like very petite and child looking.
00:47:03
Speaker
So it was like, she was sexualizing herself, but she was also making herself seem like a child. And it was a super weird move. i agree with the I agree with the phase. I mean, i we all go through them, you know? So I think – and I don't think she should – don't think anything should come from it.
00:47:23
Speaker
But I nothing bad. But I think what should come from it is now – Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but like yeah now she's actually like trying to hide a stage of her life that – I think she should be trying to hide the fact that her boyfriend looks exactly like her brother.
00:47:42
Speaker
i would be a little bit more embarrassed about that if I were her. i mean, you know, to each their own. That part I can see where people are like, only because this is a popularity contest. they're not really going off of, off of actual like performances, you know, but go ahead.
00:48:00
Speaker
go ahead What? ah So like the book I'm reading is about, um, and agents in Hollywood and how they have to scrub clean their celebrities' like personas.
00:48:11
Speaker
and like One, they have like the stakes are much higher in this than like ah person like just like trying to like make some bad decisions go away from the past that were on the internet. so i But she's doing it so obvious and it's like, what is like who's doing this? because it's like it's I know it's not her like physically sitting there on her phone like what like And her agent is doing a terrible job. She has people on her team doing like copyright strike takedowns on of eight-year-old YouTube videos yeah posted by a channel with like three subscribers.
00:48:51
Speaker
And i like be better. Yeah. The thing is, my thing, here's my thing, and I don't know, i also don't I'm also not the best person to talk to when it comes to image...
00:49:03
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image Because I have a hard time. but if you were having fun doing this and people are remembering, it's like if you feel the need that if you feel like it's so bad, apologize.
00:49:20
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like it could even be lighthearted. Like this is something where you can come out and be like, Oh man, i had, um, like, um, people always talk, it's like a trend now, people say eyebrow blindness, blush blindness, when they show old pictures of themselves and they're like, look how bad my eyebrows were back then, i had eyebrow blindness.
00:49:41
Speaker
She could just say, oh, I had self-tanner blindness. Oh, I was doing a stupid accent because... for whatever reason, because a lot of people around me spoke that way and I just emulated it and I didn't realize that it was.
00:49:54
Speaker
I wore do-rags and sagged my pants. You know what I'm saying? If if I were, if i were say a um an actor, if I were in a situation, and say i let's just say I happen to be her, but just me, you know, and someone comes back and is like, look at Enrique and his past. I'd be like,
00:50:14
Speaker
I was a fucking, I'm a product of my environment. I don't know what else you want me to be. And like, if that's what you were, if, if she was just being that, I don't, there's nothing wrong with that. You know, that there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
00:50:27
Speaker
I don't think, I think the thing is, if you're that ashamed of it, cause everyone's going to say whatever the fuck they say. People see photos of me when I was in in middle school, high school, and and I were some sort of public figure.
00:50:41
Speaker
Oh, they would fucking... they would they they would I'm sure there's a lot of people that would say all kinds of shit about how I was this and I was that and this and that and the third. right But that's just because you we live now, again, in an era where it if you just have so much exposure to different opinions and different trolls and stuff like that.
00:51:02
Speaker
But the thing is, if it bothers you that much... make a fucking joke about it. Make a video where you're making a fucking Hispanic, like some sort of like accent or something and make a fucking joke about it. I don't know about that. Of course, I'm just making it. Don't do it.
00:51:18
Speaker
No, but I'm just, I'm joking about that part. She did make a joke and I didn't put it in the thing, but she has like made jokes about being Latina when she's not. She has like made fun of it and it's like, be who's who don't do that.
00:51:29
Speaker
and Who is it? Alec Baldwin? Isn't his wife like not Latina? Oh, yeah. um She's like so from Spain, but I think she's... No, she's not from Spain. That's the thing. She's not.
00:51:40
Speaker
She's from Boston. ah We can do this. I'm just bringing that up. cause it's like That's like a whole other episode of Alec Baldwin's wife pretending that she is from Spain when she is actually from Boston.
00:51:55
Speaker
And she by Ellaria Baldwin when her name is Hillary. You know, it's much funnier when it's the other way around, though. Someone from Spain. She literally pretends to be Spanish and calls herself Ellaria when her name is Hillary.
00:52:12
Speaker
from Boston, she does a fake accent. She like dyes her hair. And Ariana Grande never was on that level. so Yeah. Hillary Baldwin pretends to like not speak English when she was born and lived in Boston her entire life.
00:52:30
Speaker
And that's where that's where I'm that's what more so what I mean by like, if you had an era and this was your era and yeah like Ariana Grande dated a few rappers and picked up some traits and got a really, really dark tan. And if you're embarrassed of your past, that's fine.
00:52:48
Speaker
you She did not cross lines like this. Maybe with the marriage thing. I don't know. That's a different thing. like That's neither here nor there. I personally just wouldn't um date a married man that also looked like my brother. But, you know, she's she's into what she's into. I'm not gonna... We can't stop her.
00:53:09
Speaker
I guess the verdict is I don't think she'll be fine. Just stop if you look yeah being so goofy, you know? If you look it up, there's actually photos of Valeria Baldwin wearing a Red Sox hat.
00:53:20
Speaker
You know she's from Boston. All right, but let's move on. All right. Speaking of... This one's great. So want to say um Ariana Grande doesn't deserve to not win for this, but she's just not going to win because she's not good enough.
00:53:34
Speaker
I agree. That's... Not that she did bad, but she just wasn't good enough. I don't see any kind of fault in that statement. Speaking of Latina women...
00:53:48
Speaker
Carla Sofia Gascon is the star of Amelia Perez. She's also the first trans woman to ever be nominated for best actress.
Controversies of Oscar Nominees
00:53:57
Speaker
um But people found her Twitter and she is saying some crazy stuff on Twitter. It's bad.
00:54:07
Speaker
The thing is, it's really bad when people find this stuff. It's even worse when I come across it without anyone telling me because I never in my life come across anything. I'm the worst person for that.
00:54:21
Speaker
And I fucking came across it. And that's how bad it is. But I'm sorry. Go on. Yeah, she has tweets. She's being racist, Islamophobic. What is she saying? What?
00:54:33
Speaker
I don't know anything about this. oh Oh! So in the document... I'm not really on the... So I just copied and pasted a bunch of her tweets in the document. oh i'm looking but um Wait, I knew before you?
00:54:46
Speaker
i fucking texted yesterday. Yeah, I was drunk. Fair enough. This shit is insane. The stuff she was saying. um And I don't know what she thought, but like I don't know how this didn't come up sooner. i don't know how...
00:55:02
Speaker
She was... i have no clue how this... How is she getting away with this shit? i How is she still an actress? And how Netflix picked... I think because these tweets were originally in Spanish and nobody at Netflix bothered to check.
00:55:19
Speaker
That's fair. But people found them and translated them to English and they are not good. um
00:55:25
Speaker
I'm just going to read some of them. She said, I really think very few people ever cared about George Floyd... a drug addict swindler, but his death has served once again to demonstrate that there are people who consider, who still consider black people to be monkeys without rights and consider policemen to be assassins.
00:55:44
Speaker
So just awful. She is saying that like, i and I just feel like it's so inappropriate, like maybe.
00:55:56
Speaker
The thing is having this conversation, that having this conversation with literally anyone, should make someone uncomfortable, you know? like the fact that you just tweeted this, like, it's nothing.
00:56:09
Speaker
And I do think, like, like, okay, she's not from the United States. She doesn't live here and, like, see the culture firsthand. But, like, that is just a horrible take. She's she's just claiming that, like, George Floyd is, like... A drug addict swindler.
00:56:28
Speaker
it's That is an insane thing. And she's just claiming like, oh, they think policemen are assassins. They are. They are. Yes, we do think that. and But like, it's true. And that's what happened.
00:56:41
Speaker
And he was murdered in cold blood. and that's not even my favorite of the worst she has. Yeah, like, that is just the beginning. um She talks shit. Like, just a couple years ago, she live tweeted during the Oscars saying that, like,
00:56:58
Speaker
it's all about diversity and people are just winning based on diversity, which is very funny considering the position she's in Which she may only be winning because of diversity, but.
00:57:09
Speaker
Yeah. um but No. Well, okay. This is what she said about the Oscars. She said, more and more, the Oscars are looking like a ceremony for independent and protest films.
00:57:20
Speaker
I didn't know if I was watching an Afro-Korean festival, a Black Lives Matter demonstration, or the eight m And the 8M is like a women's rights rally. Like a women's march.
00:57:33
Speaker
So she's like, yeah, they're only fucking... Black and Asians win. Yeah, she's like, they only let black and Asian people win. um Well, maybe probably probably should just make that better. Yeah.
00:57:48
Speaker
Again, we know culturally, we're very aware that like the people that vote on the Oscars are like old white men. So when people of color win, it is not wokeness. It is not forced diversity. Like,
00:58:02
Speaker
Ricky Gervais always says in the Golden Globes a few times, because I love watching his openings on it, because he's such a fucking wild banana. But he in in he makes a lot of jokes about how, like, the, what I don't know what's called, the Hollywood foreign press.
00:58:21
Speaker
Like, the people who vote on this, like, they're all racist. He's like, they're all racist. So it makes sense. And it's like, Yeah, that's a joke how hi everyone's laughing, but everyone's cringing because it's true. just old white men that just really don't understand. i don't think they know diversity. They just see people and, you know, they're just like, they're not white, you know?
00:58:40
Speaker
But it's it's funny to me that that this, and i gosh I feel so fucking stupid because I didn't get a chance to watch the movie because would have loved to compare her statements to the movie um just to see how bad it really was cause everybody now everybody's it so the the ratings of the movie were high 90 something on rotten tomato but i read that they're dropping people are changing their minds yeah and it's like um i mean letterbox it's a two yeah i mean speaking of cultural appropriation it's a film made by a french director in france
00:59:21
Speaker
written The dialogue and lyrics are all written in French. Google Translate was used to translate it into Spanish. um The story takes place in Mexico.
00:59:33
Speaker
There barely any Mexican actors. the ones who Of the ones who are Mexican, the majority of them cannot speak Spanish. Like Selena Gomez.
00:59:44
Speaker
Crazy. Yeah, she has more wildly racist treat tweets that I don't even really want to read out loud. Like, It just gets worse and worse. The vaccine one? You want me to read it? No, read it.
00:59:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, read the vaccine one. Whatever you do, don't do a voice. You're on Thin Nights, buddy. The Chinese vaccine.
01:00:08
Speaker
Hold on. The Chinese. I'm learning how to be white, by the way, if you were wondering why i threw that line there. um The Chinese vaccine, apart from... Sorry.
01:00:19
Speaker
This is the one that was like... And it's not... Do you me to read it? no, no. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm a professional. I was going to do a Trump voice. No, no, no. We'll do it straight up. The Chinese vaccine, apart from the mandatory chip, comes with two spring rolls, a cat that moves its head, two plastic flowers, a pop-up lantern, three telephone lines, and one euro for your first controlled purchase.
01:00:46
Speaker
I mean, I got friends who are like kind of... out there with some of the jokes they made. I mean, just being racist and anti-vax in the same sentence.
01:00:58
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You gotta give it to her. The thing is this is carefully thought. There is a lot of... Like, yeah, she sat and, like, came up. She was like, oh, what's the best? What would be funny to say? Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah What's all the Asian stuff I can think of to act, like, disgusting? Gross.
01:01:14
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The reason this was my favorite, not because it's a great thing she said, It's like the amount of... The first one's impulsive. You can think of it as impulsive. This shit took her like 20 minutes to come up with. And like the George Floyd one, I can understand because she's not from this country. She doesn't and you know she doesn't understand how it works here.
01:01:34
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you know It's different and all that stuff. Okay, whatever. Benefit of the doubt. Good job. The Oscars being this, being that. Also probably impulsive. Just throwing out stuff. Made a quick joke. you know It just he gets progressively worse. This one...
01:01:49
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This is an impulse. No, like i know she wrote this as a joke. Like it's meant to be a punchline. And like I said, it probably took her 20 minutes to come up with this at least. Because I know for a fact she wasn't.
01:02:00
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Oscars, you're watching Oscars. You make a joke. Boom. She probably saw on TV. She probably was like, she probably saw a George Floyd thing on TV. Boom. made a quick post, you know, this, when the fuck was she watching something on TV that, you know what I'm saying? yeah Maybe she was, but the thing is, this was just like a thought.
01:02:19
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Yeah. And she just kind of blurted it out. And it's like, I mean, you know what I'm saying? it's It's one of those things where it's like, I get it. I get what you're trying to do, but you're not like a fucking 20 some person.
01:02:36
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30-some-year-old just nobody, you know, that that that's just tweeting with, like, 150, maybe up to, like, 500 followers. These are just some of, like, the worst examples that I, like, picked out. But there are, like, dozens upon dozens of tweets, like, similar to this. But the thing is, you're...
01:02:55
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You are an actress. These are, these are not. So I say that to say, these are not slip ups. This is who she is. She is a horrible racist person. Like every day, 365.
01:03:08
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three sixty five These are the thoughts she is having because there are just so many tweets for a woman, her age to even have that many tweets crazy. Like why did she spend so much time on Twitter?
01:03:21
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but like for it to be this common, these thoughts are going through her head all day, every day. um this so This next tweet, she claims her account was hacked. She claims this was not her.
01:03:33
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But she tweeted about Selena Gomez. She said, she is a rich rat who portrays the poor bastard whenever she can and will stop will never stop bothering her ex-boyfriend Justin Bieber and his wife.
01:03:48
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She tweeted that about Selena Gomez. And then she turned around. She's like, that wasn't me. I didn't say that. And then deleted her Twitter account so no one could find it. That's hilarious. And she is she has posted like hundreds.
01:04:02
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She's doing all kind of interviews, apologizing, trying to like backtrack. But the thing is, i we know who you are yeah like I only included things that were like confirmed. She claims that one tweet wasn't her. All the other ones, she's like, yeah, that was me. That's my Twitter account.
01:04:18
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I posted that. And she keeps trying to like make it better. But like it's not like, like I said, that is just who she is. That was not a screw up that wasn't a lapse in judgment.
01:04:32
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She said these things over and over and over and over again. So, and at the end, I just put like some stuff she said to try to apologize. She said, I want to acknowledge the conversation around my past social media posts, posts that have caused hurt as someone you know marginalized community.
01:04:50
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I know this suffering all too well, and I am deeply sorry to those that have caused pain. She also said, all my life I have fought for a better world. I believe light will always triumph over darkness.
01:05:03
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What does that mean? That's another racist quote. She used the word darkness. She is an evil, evil woman. um yeah you know what she meant.
01:05:15
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just yeah Here's the thing. Okay. and And I have friends who say a lot of, um say a lot of fucked up stuff. Right. And, and I grew up with that kind of stuff. So like, you know, I'm, I'm numb to it. So like when I hear it said to me, or when I hear it said to someone, like, if I hear it said to someone, I get a little more upset because um they shouldn't, someone shouldn't have, I mean, I should probably feel that way about myself, but,
01:05:45
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the to carefully... that here's the I think here's the funny thing. To carefully construct these... Because that's what the Chinese one's a well-written tweet.
01:05:56
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yeah It's not well-written. Let's talk that out. That's not impulse. like that Listen, I know impulse. I've gone through that my whole life. I know, and that is that is a well-thought-out tweet. right These are not... These...
01:06:12
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like off the tip of her tongue, she's just like, Selena Gomez is a rich rat. It's like, you are these are things that have been on your mind for a while, you know?
01:06:24
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If I still had Twitter, I would probably... The worst thing would be is I'm bashing fucking someone for using AI on movies or something. You know what I'm saying? like Now, at this point in my life, I'm saying it. as yeah At this point right now in my life.
01:06:37
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And I feel that she was... around my age or older, I don't know how old is. She's old. She's old as fuck. So... It's not that So at my current age, at 34 years old, at my current age... Oh, yeah, at 34. At my current age, she I would never in my fucking life, and I say some stupid shit.
01:07:01
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She is 52 years old. I never in my life, and I've walked into my first meeting as a director, and I said fucking movie quotes from training day.
01:07:14
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Yet I would never in my fucking life tweet anything remotely close to this. Even if it was my true thought, even if I'm just like, fuck the vaccine and the Chinese with the bats, even if I believed in any of that stuff, I know better.
01:07:36
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And I'm a fucking idiot and I know better. You know I'm saying? mean, think if you believe those things, I think you should say it with your chest so you can be identified and so we know. Of course. No, no. we know, but... No, of course. But what I'm saying, I'm also saying it as if I were...
01:07:51
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a huge yeah if I were ah of huge importance I'm not of huge importance and I wouldn't say anything like that you know and she should you should know better you should know 100% better
01:08:10
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she should we should know better she's like of giant negative light on all the ones nominated for best actress because there's a lot of good ones And she is scrambling, doing all these interviews, saying, I'm not racist. I'm not racist.
01:08:26
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um Man, it just makes her seem more racist. You just hate Black and Asian people. You're not racist, okay? Also, I think I said she was Mexican. She's not Mexican. She's Spanish, but I don't give a shit what she is.
01:08:40
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She's Spanish. She's from Spain. um But i I don't care. She's a horrible, terrible human being. like So I do not care she's from. like I don't... i think I think the funniest part of all of this is that this is all coming from her being nominated for a movie that literally everybody hates.
01:09:05
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So I think that's where the funny thing is, is where I feel like you would reverse. You would try to intentionally... do you Do you think Netflix comments on this?
01:09:16
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on Netflix probably already saw that when they hired her. Netflix was probably like, fuck yeah, that's some funny shit. sound tired from netflix yeah i'm i'm literally on the Netflix made their money already.
01:09:32
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They got and got nominated. Netflix is like, look, if we have to cut her loose after this award season and distance ourselves from it, we've already used her for what this is worth.
01:09:44
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And we've made our money. Also, Netflix's biggest problem right now is they've paid, what, Cameron Diaz $25 million a movie for two movies? Oh, yeah. And then it wasn't any good.
01:09:57
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There was one called Back in Action with Jamie Foxx. It was so average. You can tell that they were fighting on set because they literally, like, the movie reflected that. But Netflix doesn't give a fuck at all.
01:10:11
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So Netflix really like increases their price by like a dollar a day is just getting worse and worse there. that's This is why I had to cut them.
01:10:23
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It's like a train wreck right now. Like, what the fuck is Netflix doing? um I watched I watched that Jamie Foxx movie. It was it was not good. um But yeah, Carla Sofia Gascon, she is the star of Amelia Perez. She is the face of that movie.
01:10:39
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um I have her Google page open right now. And on the side, it says see also and it lists Academy Awards. And it also lists George Floyd, which I i can only hope and pray that like something will come of this and that from people reading that tweet, maybe if they're uneducated, i hope they go read about George Floyd and maybe...
01:11:00
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have a better understanding of the situation. Like, I don't know, maybe people from other countries, people from Spain, wherever she's from, i hope that they educate themselves and understand the severity.
01:11:14
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look Adrian Brody did some fucked up stuff, but... Come on now. This is like, this is the worst of the worst. We have a few more topics and it, and it gets better from here.
01:11:26
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i mean, a little bit. It gets, yeah, but it just, I wish God, I wish i would have seen the minute Perez. so I can give you guys my insight on that. I've watched it most of the way through and I'm i'm not going to go back.
01:11:42
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It's not good. I keep trying. I keep failing. I'm going to do it tonight. I'm going to do it tonight. There are just so many better movies. I'm going to do it tonight while I while i pick up clothes. but My final thought on on her is one...
01:12:00
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one Come on now, you cannot be this fucking stupid, right? That's the first thing. Also, um apparently for Amelia Perez, they used ai on her voice because it is a musical.
01:12:13
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They did not hire any singers, I guess, except Selena Gomez, but they used AI to manipulate her voice because she can't sing. Makes sense.
01:12:25
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Makes 100% sense. So, movies also trash for using AI. Add that to the list of sins. And Zoe Zaldana found out too. and this's like oh yeah She was like, I don't fuck with that. She's like, I don't claim this bitch. She is not fucking happy about that.
01:12:45
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But speaking of Emilio Perez, Selena Gomez, who was like, ah she was obviously in the film. She got a little bit of backlash for that. you know She didn't write the movie. She was just in it.
01:12:58
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Um, people criticize her for like having a bad Mexican accent, but they try to defend that by saying like her character is Mexican American. That's why her accent's bad.
01:13:09
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But people claim it's just because Selena Gomez does not speak Spanish. Um, and then last week, Selena Gomez posted a video of her like sobbing and just crying about, um the current situation with like ICE and people being deported. She was like, my people are being deported. She's like posted this video crying and people are like, this is so performative. You're not doing anything to help. Also, you were in that like horrible movie that like made fun of Mexican people. So like, how are you going to sit here and cry when you just were in the most fucked up movie that like was an insult to Mexican people? Like she deleted the video.
01:13:52
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Um, luckily yeah Luckily, it's the internet. So it's never... Luckily for everyone except for her. Because unluckily for her, the internet. I think overall she's a good kid. She just, unfortunately, he was in a shitty movie.
01:14:07
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And I don't know a good don't know anything about Selena Gomez. I didn't know she was Mexican. Good to know. um o i hope Wild, wild.
01:14:18
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That being Mexican, you tell your family... hey, I'm going to be in this movie where represent Mexicans. What's it about? And then you explain Emilia Perez, like, wild that you... And you say it's literally about, like, the cartel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The most stereotypical, like,
01:14:36
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It's about the cartel and I don't know who she plays, but I play this part. And it's like, so it's not a movie about like history. It's not like you're not making us proud. You're not made in Mexico, not made by anyone that speaks Spanish.
01:14:53
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No one Mexican was consulted. It's literally written in French and Google translated. And you can tell by the music that the lyrics do not fit the music because the lyrics were written in French.
01:15:06
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and then translate fascinating such fascinating stuff but not c selena gomez's fault like i said i think she's a good kid it's just unfortunate but that video is her fault though 100 people just said it's a little like it's performative i guess and it's like who films himself crying i understand that she feels some type of way i think we're all like very upset about this situation it is really horrible to think about but i think she could have done something else due to the fact that she's like a millionaire or probably a billionaire millionaire let's make it crazy those numbers don't make a difference to me um because it's more money than i'll ever see they might as well be the same thing anyway moving on from that this is kind of a minor thing and he was not nominated but aaron taylor johnson
01:15:58
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is in the movie Nosferatu, which was nominated
Unusual Celebrity Relationships
01:16:01
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for Best Picture. He plays Friedrich in Nosferatu. Just fun fact about his life. um He was, like, groomed by his wife as a teenager. um His wife was, like, 42 when she met him when he was, like, a kid. um And they've been married ever since. He's currently, like, 34 years old.
01:16:26
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But he was, like, very clearly, like, He married like a much, much, much older woman when he was a teenager. and allegedly everything's fine. Like I said, everything worked out. They are still married.
01:16:38
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But I just thought I would point out a lot of people are like, hey, that's weird. And he's like, no, I'm fine. He was like, I was so mature. and it's like mysteriously like they began dating on literally his 18th birthday while she was 42. And also she was his boss.
01:16:55
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Well, yeah, so he was taken advantage of. anger room whether not like he's happy about it now whatever but it weird and wrong and i mean like whatever like I mean they're still married that's weird he is a stepfather of two of her children and they are like the same age as him unfortunately that happens that's a crazy concept to me
01:17:28
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Imagine being like, you're not my real dad, and it's like a 25-year-old. Yeah, well, he was great in The Fall Guy. so He was great in Nosferatu. Oh, yeah. he He's a good actor.
01:17:43
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Yeah, he's just yeah he's like a great actor. He's done a lot of good work. He's just got this like weird weird thing going on with his like creepy wife. let's it Let's hope it ends well for Yeah. i And not in like him getting killed or something. It's worrisome because what worries me is like, is that what's going to happen in my forties? Am I going to be like dating is so hard. I need to talk to an 18 year old.
01:18:09
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Let's hope. down I mean, you can just not. I'm joking. You'll be disowned by a lot of your friends. Yeah. I was also joking. um On a much later note,
01:18:22
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um Demi Moore was nominated for Best Actress in The Substance, and there are rumors that she is dating Andrew Garfield. I think that's nice. I like Andrew Garfield. I just thought I would throw that... Not substantiated, just rumors. They've been seen together a lot. No one knows what's going on. It's just a rumor.
01:18:40
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That guy hates Mondays and loves lasagna. it it Yeah, he does. He's also Spider-Man. Yeah. But yeah, it could be false, but... If not, they're good buddies, they're pals, they're hanging out.
01:18:55
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I just thought I'd throw like a fun light one towards the end. What are the odds that he's just trying to be cool with Bruce Willis before... Maybe he's trying to get like Aaron Taylor Johnson and marry a much older woman. Didn't Ashton Kutcher her?
01:19:14
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What? Mame? Wasn't Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore? Yeah, I think you're i think you're right. Yeah, because they were like they were literally making fun of Bruce Willis about it. i saw the roast. Matter of fact, I remember watching the roast and they literally made fun of him because Ashton Kutcher took um took his his wife.
01:19:34
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Obviously, they were divorced. but Sorry, I turned that into like a horrible... No, she's dated a lot of people. Andrew Garfield's a good guy. he looks like it.
01:19:45
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He's got some pretty good hair. He's got a lot going for himself. um Maybe he gets He could sing. He could dance. He could be Spider-Man. Yeah, that they didn't give him a fair shake for the Spider-Mans because people are like...
01:19:58
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people are goofy in how they are. So like now that he came out in the newer Spider-Man movie for Marvel, um you know how people are. They're like, we loved you the whole time. So you might get a third one.
01:20:12
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Good for him. You know, i think it's, it's, it's good for him. If you are Dana, good for you, buddy. Life is hard. Pat, do you want to go over the last thing should I read this?
01:20:31
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Good talk. think Pat disappeared. Oh, my bad. um Didn't know I was on mute. Yeah, no, Julia, you can read it.
Ralph Fiennes and the True Actor's Focus
01:20:41
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Okay.
01:20:42
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um This is just a last like quote from Ralph Fiennes about the Oscars. Is this whole thing a quote? Okay.
01:20:53
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Yeah, it's like two. It's one quote from how he answered the question what he thought about the Oscars. Okay, so Ralph Fiennes, this is his thoughts on the Oscars.
01:21:05
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That talk is essentially pleasing because it's recognizing people are feeling this is a good film and the performances are working. But I think you can't invest in it.
01:21:16
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um I mean, if such a thing comes to pass, I'd be delighted. Of course, any actor would be, I'd be very happy. But you can't invest in it. It's a thing to get. it has to be the the way that if life gives it to you, how wonderful. If it doesn't, the most important thing is that there's a friend of mine who says, you do good work.
01:21:41
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I've got lots of work to prepare for next year, and that is where I want to put my mental energy into the work that I've got coming up. So that was just his, yeah, his response to being asked about the Oscars, and he's like,
01:21:55
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I would love to get an Oscar, but he's like, I'm not trying to worry about that shit. I got more important stuff going on. It really seems like he is invested in the art of filmmaking and that is what matters to him.
01:22:07
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And an award show that is like a popularity contest. It's not a concern of his. And I think that's great. I respect that 100%. I'm going to fucking win. I'm going to lose. At the end of the day, ah got shit to do.
01:22:21
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I respect that. I really do. e did a great job in Conclave. I, if I did not like have that in the stars for me to enjoy this movie.
01:22:35
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And i was, i watched it fully through it's on Peacock for people who haven't seen it. Go watch it. It's great. um It's well acted. um It's very relevant.
01:22:48
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It feels relevant. And he does a great job in it. And, Yeah, it's it's about the election of a pope. Yeah.
01:22:59
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Yeah. He's a phenomenal actor in general in like all of his roles. And but he's also just not, you know, he's not into like the celebrity shit that all of these other people are into. He's not doing these like.
01:23:15
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I mean, this is a quote from an interview, but he's not doing a ton of goofy interviews. He's not on this like campaign trail. like in BoJack they kind of say like and they make fun of it but like you have to do so many appearances and you have to do silly things and interviews that you don't want to do and say things you don't want to do and go to events that you don't want to go to and you you have to basically do a bunch like the studio kind of forces you to go and do it to promote the movie and travel around the world and be like oh like
01:23:51
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do photo ops and you try to do some kind of charity thing all impress the the voters to make it look like you're a good guy and you have to scrub your history clean and renounce things in tweets you've had said and i like that he's just like no i'm just going to focus on acting i mean that's nice I honestly, truly, 100% respect that so much. And he's probably better than any of the actors that were nominated.
01:24:23
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i think... The thing is, I think you need people to do all that promotional stuff. Because if you had way... If more people took this approach, I think it would just kind of shift things. Things would be a little... Well, obviously, duh. But things would be like...
01:24:44
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Different to where i don't know how good, you know, like I think one or two, like I think him specifically being like, I'm either going to fucking win off my performance or I'm going to lose to whatever reason I lost to.
01:25:01
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And I listen, I'm trying to be back here next year with another film. So I'm just preparing on that. you know, you liked the movie, you didn't like the movie, I'll figure that out come March or whenever the Oscars are. I respect that.
01:25:16
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I mean, I'm sure there's probably a lot of fans that wish he would go to the signings or the, you know, when they do like the fucking Graham Norton shows and all these talk shows and stuff. I'm sure there's people that would love to hear from him, but just hear from somebody else, you know, like I, he's just like, you let someone else fucking convince you I got stuff to do and It's not even like a I don't give a shit part. It's more like, listen, I'm trying to be back here next year.
01:25:45
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Like, i'm trying to I'm trying to put together something so that next year I'm back here again. and in the same spot where you're going to either love love what I did or you're not going to love what I did.
01:25:58
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And, like, the correlation of, like, him with, like, doing, like, he very rarely does, like, any, like, late night shows or anything like
The Sincerity of Celebrity Charity Work
01:26:05
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that. And if he does, it's around times of, like, him being in town for the Golden Globes or Oscars, like, someone might pick him up then.
01:26:14
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But that's it, because he's, like, in the area. Other than that, he's busy eve working. um I want to point out that, like, a lot of actors, actresses, people, they're going to be doing a lot of charity work.
01:26:26
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um And whether or not some of it is and donating more money than normal for like fire relief. Yeah. I got hit a lot with fire. So I think that's something that we should like monitor a little bit, like not like in a bad way. It's not bad.
01:26:40
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And I think some of it would be genuine, but there are people that are going to be like, well, maybe I could go make an appearance and, um, you know, get, uh, some goodwill.
01:26:52
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And I'm not saying like, and like, um, I know that like, They did like a, for the firefighters that were incarcerated, they showed, they played Sing Sing for them.
01:27:04
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And they had a meet and greet with like some of the members of the cast. And I'm not saying that that's performative at all, because some of those members on the cast were incarcerated and and um now out of jail.
01:27:19
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So don't know, I'm not saying like anything that's performative, but some, there will be things that are performative. I agree. I don't think everyone's doing it because they want to do it.
01:27:31
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But the thing is, whether they are, whether they're not, they're they're doing it and we will never know. We can just kind of go off of whatever faces they make on camera.
Talent vs. Controversy in Awards
01:27:45
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But i i don't I don't agree that that should come into consideration with awards You know, it's it's kind of sorry, please forgive me for going back to sports, but it's like um a lot of a lot of like football players at T.O. for a perfect example, where top of their game and and, you know, when it got time to get to the Hall of Fame, a lot of them got judged off of what they did not play in.
01:28:17
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you know ti of like he was a first ballot hall of famer and they did him dirty right right and that was and that's kind of more so why that's the point i'm getting where and in his case it's like you i don't know if you got better in his era than him and you know he was definitely in the top three top five of his era and most of them were older you know so like But he was goofy.
01:28:46
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You know, he was like... Celebrations. Yeah, there was just a lot of stuff he did outside. that The celebrations weren't even bad. It's more so what he did outside. and The manipulation of the game, the way he did with the Eagles, like the whole, like, I'm going to work out in front of my... Which was the coolest thing ever.
01:29:04
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Yeah, like the drama that, you know, that kind of stuff. I don't think you should ever play that kind of stuff into consideration when... you're talking of what someone's performance was, you know, it's like at a job, you're not, I can't do performance reviews based off of how much I like you as a person. i have to do it off or based off of how well you do your job and how well um you do other things and how not well you do your job and how not well you do other things, you know, and it's,
01:29:38
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in award seasons, you know, people who was on the most talk shows, whose face was shown the most, who did the most hurricane relief or the most fire relief or the most this or the most that, you know, these kinds of things, I don't think should play a part into it.
01:29:58
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No, it should be like solely on me. The thing is on the flip side though, you have the negatives. You have like, the the the fucking super racist tweets and this and that. It's like those um those things, though, you know, a lot of times when you think of those things, it's like that's a whole different, like ah that's a whole different realm of of of stuff, you know?
01:30:25
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Me going out and showing my face and doing, you know, basically me just trying to be more exposed is different than me being like legit, like if someone murdered someone, you know what i'm saying? It's like, if someone, right.
Criticism of Caitlyn Jenner and Carla Gascon
01:30:47
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Right. Like, you know, he would have been a hall of famer if he wasn't a fucking murderer, you know what I'm saying? So it's, it's one of those things where it's like, you shouldn't be judged off that stuff. But also there's some things that it's like, nah, buddy, you know, some things you just can't let slide.
01:31:04
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weird weird weird world we live in I think that's my take on it anyone got any other takes? um Chapel Rhone just won a Grammy I wish I knew who that was I don't care about the Grammys but she did um say some nice things about trans rights and supporting trans people so glad that she's using her platform for good instead of evil like some people You know, too, i I always thought people should use their platforms a lot. But then I got older and I would always hear people debating about using their platforms. And I always wondered who has used their platforms to influence me to do something.
01:31:52
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ah Like growing up, before I knew what that was. Like... um ah but before I knew what having a platform was. I wonder who used their platforms to inspire me to do something or or to make me do something stupid.
01:32:08
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Sorry, it's just a curiosity thing that popped up. yeah but We also support trans people except for um Carla Gascon. She can go to hell.
01:32:20
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oh yeah That is fucking wild. yeah Do not watch Amelia Perez's cancel your Netflix subscription. If you can watch, you can't even get through it. like um we We don't really, I don't i don't support Caitlyn Jenner either.
01:32:40
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Yeah, I thought of her immediately because I was going to say I like support all trans people except, but then I was like, those two one i don't I don't support her ass either. Yeah.
01:32:52
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Because I was also about to say the whole, i was about to say, yeah, we support everyone but her, but it's like, yeah, we also don't like Caitlyn Jenner. Caitlyn Jenner is a murderer, first of all. She did vehicular manslaughter and killed someone.
01:33:06
Speaker
Two, she's homophobic. um Which is a wild thing to think about. but Yeah, homophobic. um Even though she's a woman who was married to a woman and she had that privilege doesn't count for her Her privilege erases her background.
01:33:27
Speaker
It's more of a class thing. Like she's sexist and like really gross to other women, including her daughters. She can go to hell too. All right.
01:33:39
Speaker
They can both go in a handbasket. Well, bring back the handbasket. Yeah. I don't know how that works. don't know putting someone in handbasket and like lowering them down into hell. don't how that works.
01:33:53
Speaker
Yeah. My final thought is she is super fucking wild. Um, whatever her name is, Carla, Sofia, super fucking wild. You give fake Mexicans a bad name and you give real Mexicans a bad name, even though you're not Mexican.
01:34:11
Speaker
so Yeah. I mean, you know, you hit all, you hit the mark, girl. You did what you had to do. right. We good? Yep. All right.
01:34:23
Speaker
We're out of here then.