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The Damned if I do, The Damned if I don't
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The year is 2025. We have made it to another year and somehow it all seems the same.
Did you like any of the 2024 top 10 grossing films? Have you seen any or all of them? Is Channing Tatum Enrique's favorite person? Does Julia not know what unlocking a free Powerball ticket is? Do you pay an $80 Million dollar a year Sydney Sweeney to hand the ball off to a $12 Million dollar a year Dakota Fanning? Did Julia solve why men have anger issues? Are some actors too good & the movie not hold it's weight? Did you agree with the Golden Globe winners? Did Enrique describe The Wizard of Oz correctly? Have you seen The Damned? Do you think that it was a great start for horror? Is it fair to judge it when Nosferatu came out literally a few weeks ago? Do you legit Irish actors look like they don't know what an iPhone is?
Thank you for listening! Enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction & Top-Earning Horror Movies
00:00:00
Speaker
Alright, Pat. Alright, let's get to another episode of what we saw last night. We're in 2025, reviewing our first 2025 movie, which is cool and exciting.
00:00:11
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um As always, it's me, Enrique, and rega Julia, whatever. We got a warm-up question. We got a few warm-up questions.
00:00:21
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Let's see how this goes. So... Last year, we did this on the first, and we did this halfway through. so we're going to see. I'm going to say, can you guys get the top 10 earning horror movies?
00:00:36
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Ever? um twenty twenty four oh From okay, from 2024. I have in my notes that you got 9 out of the 10 from 23. That sounds familiar. All right, Terrifier 3.
00:00:49
Speaker
Grossing. What? don't... So, like, money that was made. Oh, okay. they probably What did they spend, like, $12 on that? That's why they didn't gross a lot? Or no? i mean they they may Oh, you're right. Terrified is for your six.
00:01:04
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All men do is lie. Sorry.
00:01:09
Speaker
Nosferatu? No. No, it's four. My i'm a mess um immaculate I don't even know what we saw. Last Omen?
00:01:30
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First Omen? Wait. You said First Omen? Yeah, yeah, my bad. First Omen. The First Omen was 13 on the list.
00:01:42
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um yeah Two of them were absolutely horrible. Was it The Exorcism? Is that what that movie's called? It is, but it's not that's not it. Okay. Um... a
00:01:55
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Night Swim. Yes. Wow. Swim is number nine with $32 million. Night Swim wasn't bad. wasn't good.
00:02:07
Speaker
True. This one's in the same vein and we saw it at the same time as Night Swim. Imaginary? Yes. Really? Yeah. really you yeah Number Jason Blum...
Blumhouse's 'Wolfman' & Movie Rankings
00:02:19
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twenty eight million dollars you know jason blu tweeted something the other day that was like, I'm going to start my year in February because January just wasn't it. And I was like, buddy, as far as your films are concerned, the past couple years wasn't it.
00:02:35
Speaker
Yeah. Also, like, he he has a movie out, but we'll get into that later. Wolfman is a Blumhouse movie and that's out now, so. heck. We'll probably see that Tuesday.
00:02:49
Speaker
yeah. I think you guys should because I'm going to see Tuesday. How about Tarot? Tarot is 15. Okay. that this I will say the rest are they pretty good movies.
00:03:02
Speaker
oh What's a movie we've seen recently? One's musical. That's a horror musical? I mean, it's musical themed.
00:03:14
Speaker
Musical themed? Maxine? That's not even from... That's not... No. Maxine was like 16 on the list. And Maxine was not musical.
00:03:26
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um I don't remember music ever being... Let's see.
00:03:33
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um
Game: Keep or Cut Horror Actresses
00:03:34
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This means nothing but... Henrique, we saw one of them he at the Fashion District.
00:03:43
Speaker
A horror movie that we saw at the Fashion District. Yeah. um What is the movie? Oh, don't hear. Oh, no, you can hear And Julia, I don't think Julia saw this one, although she attempted to see it several times.
00:03:58
Speaker
What is it? mean, if you're going to give up, Alien Romulus. yeah Oh, Alien. Okay, yeah. I just, I, yeah. No, no, no, no, but I forgot all about Alien. What what number was that?
00:04:12
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Two. Nice. This is so embarrassing, but I have never, I still have never seen Alien. I know, it is. What's a...
00:04:22
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What's a horror musical? um Number eight, we saw together. We all saw together at Cinemark.
00:04:34
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ah Seven, Enrique, your favorite person's in it. Oh, Don't Blink?
00:04:43
Speaker
Or Blink Twice? fuck why Why do we keep saying Don't Blink? Blink Twice. yeah But then I get that confused with Don't Blink. Yeah, you're right. What about Blink twice?
00:04:55
Speaker
Seven. Perfect. oh Oh, what about... Damn, what's a fucking musical? Man, we talked about it. We have an episode for it.
00:05:07
Speaker
We unlocked a free Powerball ticket on our Cinemark account. Do I redeem it? Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. I don't know what that means. you guys want me to just give you them?
00:05:20
Speaker
Well, because I'm not looking at my phone, so I'm not a...
Golden Globes Highlights & Winners
00:05:25
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, this just for the sake of time. Yeah. right, number one was A Quiet Place Day One. That grossed $138 million. That's number one.
00:05:34
Speaker
Two was Alien Romulus. Three, Long Legs. Four, Nosferatu. Five, Smile 2. Six, Terrifier. Three, Don't Blink. um The Strangers Chapter 1.
00:05:49
Speaker
And then Night Swim and Imaginary. You mean Blink twice? Yeah, Blink twice. Now you got me saying it. All right. Next game, we're going to do new version.
00:06:02
Speaker
Keep three, cut three. I'm going to give you you three actresses or three fictional characters. And you're just going to either say you're going to keep or cut. So you keep three or cut three.
00:06:13
Speaker
So I'll read one out and you'll say going to keep this person or cut them. All of them are final girls from last year. All right. Starting with Dakota Fanning as a Mina in The Watchers.
00:06:28
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I'll cut her. I'm so confused. Like, yay or nay, basically.
00:06:37
Speaker
Based off her role, right? Not like... Yeah. ah But I don't know who else is on the roster yet. That's the point. you got You got to go gut decisions. You got make bold choices.
00:06:48
Speaker
Yeah, wasn't too fond of her in that. So, yeah, she's cut. Executive move. I'm going to keep her. The thing is, okay you don't pay Dakota Fanning twelve million dollars a year toward dakota fanning You don't pay like $80 million dollars a year to a, ah like a Sidney Sweeney to hand the ball off to a $12 million dollars a year Dakota Fanning. You know what saying? Like, you know what I'm saying. So.
00:07:23
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i Yeah, I get it. And I agree. So we have to cut, you know. right. ah Guy Riley, who was played by Naomi Scott in Smile 2.
00:07:35
Speaker
Nope, I'm going to cut her. Hot take. evening What about Dakota? What are you doing with her? Keeping her. Oh, you're rating her. You're wild for that.
00:07:48
Speaker
You know what? No, no, I respect you. I'm keeping her. Alright. I thought she was rating her, so I'm keeping her. We'll go with Lily Rose Depp as Ellen Hutton.
00:08:02
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Oh yeah, I'm keeping her. Yeah, you gotta keep her. Next we'll do... oh Mika Monroe as Lee Harker from Long Legs.
00:08:13
Speaker
I guess we'll... Well, i have to keep three and cut three, right? Yeah. pick three Well, that's my third, so... That might be my third, but... That would be your third. I don't like any games where you have to... and I'll keep her, but... ah then The next one was... so there youre Nell Tigerfree as Margaret from the First Domeman.
00:08:36
Speaker
God damn it. Is this how sports work? Is this how they choose the teams? Because this is horrible. Basically, it's tough. a very emotional time. Except for the worst always get the best. Is this why men have anger issues?
00:08:51
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It's why we have trust issues. Yeah, why we don't. Yeah, pretty much. And the last one would have been Lupita N'Galo as Samira from a five-flat stay one.
00:09:04
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Thanks. um Well, we have to cut her, but I didn't like her. and and no No, I did like her in a row. I didn't like the movie, but i liked the role.
Cinematic Box Office Achievement
00:09:14
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I thought about it. like She did a really good job.
00:09:17
Speaker
The movie just isn't good. Yeah, I think um ah think one of the problems but at first yeah i thought this was a twist off one of the problems that I personally have is sometimes you're too good you know and sometimes i think like e as much as I love you, you know, and I think like all your work is good. Sometimes you're just too good. And I don't think, um, some movies don't, they don't pull their own weight, you know?
00:09:50
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Yeah. You know, sometimes you have like, um,
00:09:57
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yeah, pretty much. Yeah. We'll leave it at that. all right. Golden Globes highlights. Um, are we, are we ready? Are we ready for this? Yeah. So I didn't get a chance to watch the whole thing. i was like on and off, on and off.
00:10:14
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But did get a recap and I did look at like winners and stuff. But I will say Nikki Glaser uses the same jokes for like every single thing.
00:10:28
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Now, get it. I know comedians, you know, they have their bits and stuff. But she always uses the same jokes, it seems like. And it's tough to see somebody host when the jokes are kind of like, you know, like, okay, I've seen this on roasts.
00:10:46
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um You have a stand-up. you have similar jokes in your stand-ups. You know, just a note. um no one no one can put together like an opening act like Ricky Gervais can.
00:11:04
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But I know his kind of style isn't for everyone, you know? So some people are a little more sensitive than others. and But i don't I don't believe in sensitivity. So I personally love him.
00:11:20
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when I see an award show... And it's not someone like to his caliber. I do kind of get upset because I'm like... But anyways, do you want me just run down like the categories? I guess like the the big movie winners.
00:11:34
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Right, right, right. I'm going to go
Oscar Nominations & Controversy
00:11:38
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through the movies. right For drama, ah the brutalist one, which I haven't seen. it make you want to see it?
00:11:47
Speaker
I like Adrian Brody. I do. I like Adrian Brody as an actor and he did win best actor. So I'm cut most of the time I'm curious because I saw that this was a Holocaust movie. I could be wrong.
00:12:02
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I also don't know what the hell anything is, but if it is, it's like, how many more times can you tell me the same story? um But that makes me, that makes me intrigued because it's, you know,
00:12:13
Speaker
How many more times can you say the same shit? But sometimes like people say the same shit, but it's like interesting. you know So, yeah, I would. It did beat out Dune Part 2, which I personally... got to re-watch my top 10 movies and and see if they're where they need to be.
00:12:33
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But I personally have that at like the best movie of the year so far. the There's like two or three movies that might fight it out, but I'm interested to see The Brutalist because if that's what won, then i need to see why.
00:12:49
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don't know you guys are interested in Adrian Brody. but ah go um I have a comment to make later, but um go on. Okay. So, musical comedy?
00:13:01
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Emilia Perez won. which the only thing I know about that movie is that I was told it's very offensive to Mexicans. So I am very intrigued to see why that was told to me. Cause if it is very offensive, is it funny offensive or is it like disrespectful offensive?
00:13:25
Speaker
I think I'll like both of them. So I'm intrigued about that, but Quick notes, it beat out The Substance, Challengers, Wicked, Anora, and A Real Pain.
00:13:37
Speaker
Which is, it's wild to me because, like, and but going into this, a lot of people said it was good, but not that good. Like, a few of my friends that watched it on, netflix it's on Netflix.
00:13:49
Speaker
Okay. And, like, people have said that it's not that good, or it's not that great, and but, like and like, I love Challengers, and I love The Substance, and Anora was amazing, so, like,
00:14:00
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I was like sitting there thinking like any of those movies, if they win, I'm going to be really happy. If if if I, well, I need to see a Nora. The thing is, I've been wanting to watch A Real Pain. I saw that it's streaming now. I just started streaming, but I've been wanting to watch A Real Pain.
00:14:17
Speaker
Because I'm interested... um Well, I'm just... in the The movie seems like one of those feel-good movies. And I feel like every year a feel-good movie comes out and it's super overrated. It's like I don't feel any emotion.
00:14:33
Speaker
And I'm a super sensitive person, but sometimes they don't. But... Challengers, a fucking phenomenal movie. Wicked, I don't know anything about The Wizard of Oz.
00:14:46
Speaker
ah just I just... I don't know anything about the lore. I don't even remember the movie. i know there was like a tornado in a house. Probably farm animals. But... But you don't need to know because that's the prequel. Right, right, right, right, right. And the thing is, i don't need to know anything.
00:15:00
Speaker
And I went into this movie. Wicked was great. I thought Wicked was great. The substance was great. So... Just quick context if anybody's curious. um The next one I have is animated.
00:15:15
Speaker
I didn't see any of these, but... ah Well, I'm lying. I saw one of them. Flo won. And the picture was of a cat. So I think it's a movie about a cat. I don't know. Flo is amazing.
00:15:27
Speaker
it? Yes. but Have you ever played that game, Stray? No, but I have a... It's vaguely similar to that. I have a game that... It is... But Flo, you really get, like through no words, you get the feeling of camaraderie.
00:15:44
Speaker
um I saw it at at um i saw of the Boers, and I liked it so much, I went the next day to see it again. Don't get It was amazing. I heard nothing but good things about it, and I am interested in watching it, but um i haven't i haven't I don't know anything about it But I do have a game called Cat Quest where a cat does quests, if anyone's wondering. My friend gave me that game, and I haven't played yet it yet. But it beat out Inside Out 2, which I thought was interesting, and Moana 2, which I thought was interesting.
00:16:15
Speaker
Was the good robot ready up there? The Wild Robot, Memoir of the Square, and Wallace and Gromit, Vengeance Morphine, Gromai. I don't know. i Don't fucking sit here and tell us you don't know what Wallace and Gromit is. I have no fucking clue what that is. Don't watch Wallace and Gromit.
00:16:35
Speaker
i have no fucking clue what that is. Is that like a book or something? It's great. Is that like a child book or something i was supposed to read when I young? It's like a guy and a dog, right? Yeah. Is it like Marmaduke?
00:16:47
Speaker
The guy is Wallace, right? I don't know what Marmaduke is. How do you not know what Marmaduke is? It sounds familiar, but andm really know. I couldn't draw them, I don't think.
00:16:59
Speaker
Anyways. I feel like he's a dog with, like, long, floppy ears. Am I wrong? Marmaduke? It's claymation. It's beautiful. It's green. I'm not hating on the movie. Is he, like, that sad dog?
00:17:10
Speaker
No, they're happy. I just i have no idea what whatsoever. Yeah. I refuse to believe that you haven't seen an
Introduction to 'The Damned'
00:17:22
Speaker
older Wallace and Gromit movie.
00:17:25
Speaker
I know i know of a Wallace. Like, I know a guy named Wallace, but... tell you a real person and your name is Wallace. Like, I'm sorry, but I mean, who looks at a baby, an infant and is like, he looked like a Wallace to me.
00:17:41
Speaker
i always thought that was his nickname, but it was his real name. Whose nickname is Wallace. What's that short for? while it It's like, it's plural for wallet. I think.
00:17:54
Speaker
But um yeah, yeah. So for context, it beat out two like Disney Pixar movies. And I think that's like, like I just think, I just feel like they have a, they I just feel like they have like that, like, I don't know, kind of stranglehold and they didn't though. So.
00:18:14
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but You guys should watch some of them. the a a minimum Cause like the good robot I love, I thought that was amazing. Like that was the closest I felt to feeling emotions. Well, I plan on watching a lot of these movies.
00:18:27
Speaker
I'm going to focus on a lot of these movies this weekend because I have off Monday. Non-English language movies, which I feel like you shouldn't be in two categories, first of all. like I don't think Amelia Perez should be in music or comedy and non-English.
00:18:46
Speaker
but So non-English movies can't be funny? No, they can be funny. I just don't think we should be in both categories. You know what I'm saying Because then it's like, well, you well well then Dune 2 could also be in non-English because they speak a different language in Dune 2. You know I'm saying?
00:19:03
Speaker
Granted, that's a pretty stupid example, but yeah you know it's it's it's like that. it's like I don't think you should be in two categories because of one again. You know, and and don't get me wrong.
00:19:17
Speaker
If people think that movie was that I haven't seen it yet. But if people think that movie was that great, then good for it. You know what I mean? I'm I'm not sitting here on a hater throne. I'm just I just don't think you should be in two categories. You know what I'm saying? Anyways.
00:19:32
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But yeah. So moving on that one. The one, though, that was interesting because it was new, the cinematic box office achievement, which Vin Diesel gave the like vin diesel gave like the foreword on it.
00:19:51
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And I think it's proper because I'm not sure Vin Diesel's a good actor. He's a fun actor.
00:20:02
Speaker
yes yeah exactly he makes some really great fucking movies and i don't even know of like outside of fast and feel like the original fast and furious i don't know if he's had i mean riddick was good but like i just saw triple x recently And I'm like, this movie kind of fucking sucks. It's terrible.
00:20:23
Speaker
Yeah, but when we were kids, it was awesome. But nevertheless, he makes great movies, great blockbuster movies. I'm going to run down the list. I'm sure you guys know who won. oh Alien Romulus, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Deadpool and Wolverine, Gladiator 2, Inside Out 2, The Wild Robot, Twisters, and Wicked.
00:20:47
Speaker
So... ah personally i've seen everyone but the wild robot and beetlejuice beetlejuice wait really i don't yeah for some reason i haven't gotten around to see that yet but i i know it's not better than majority of these movies and wicked one and i'm thinking that's crazy because it didn't even like gross the most you know Like, I think, well, Inside Out 2 was, like, the highest grossing this year, wasn't it? Something like that? i think so.
00:21:17
Speaker
And I think, like, Deadpool Wolverine was, like, the second. And they did not win. So I was... Yeah, but grossing is, like, how much... You gotta factor in how much they spent to make it. And, like, Inside Out, Disney probably paid those animators, like... Is that Disney?
00:21:36
Speaker
Or is it... It's Disney and Pixar, right? Yeah. They paid those Pixar animators, like, probably $7.00. And then every child on planet Earth watched Inside Out like 42 times.
00:21:48
Speaker
So that's why it grossed so high. Versus like a movie they spent a lot of money to make. No, no, no. it's itable when you When you say grossing, it it doesn't encounter um what they make. it just take home how much they earn through the box office.
00:22:05
Speaker
I mean, Alien Romulus... I don't think was as much as like inside out too. I guess, I guess you can see it as percentage, you know, I guess if I, I don't know how they do this. I really don't know. But if, if they called me and said, Hey, um, here's, but what, what, what do you have it? do you have it available? Gross? What did they gross?
00:22:30
Speaker
Or what did they make overall? Like what did inside out to make overall? So it grows and make in this situation are the same. It's what they took home, not
Audience Reactions & Supporting Filmmakers
00:22:39
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counting the um what they spent on it.
00:22:42
Speaker
Inside Out 2 made $1,698,000,000. Deadpool and second place $1,330,000,000. Moana 2, Despicable Me Doom Part 2. Wicked was six. What did Wicked make? curious, out of curiosity. Right now it's at $699,000,000. three hundred and thirty million maan too despicable me for doom part two wicked was sick what the wicked make just curious out of curiosity um right now it says six hundred and ninety nine million
00:23:08
Speaker
Okay. it it It's going to go up because it's still in theaters. Right, right, right. No, no, no. I'm just, it's I'm curious because I wonder what the requirement, like, what how does that work, the cinematic box office achievement? Like, how does, is it like, was this movie not supposed to be as good and it was really good or, like, better than it should have been? Like, is that how they're kind of seeing it? I don't know how they're doing it. I think they go off of, like,
00:23:37
Speaker
how much money it makes and vibes. Because did people like it and have fun with it? Everyone knew inside out to like literally every single person on the planet knew that movie was going to do. Okay. Did they think it'd make a billion? I don't know, but everyone knew it was going to do good. I think then they come out like in the summer and every fucking kid on on the planet saw it.
00:24:00
Speaker
Literally every kid on the planet, even kids that weren't born. Like even my, my, my little niece that wasn't born yet. Like she even fucking saw it. Like, Every single person. But Deadpool and Wolverine, same thing.
00:24:12
Speaker
Everyone knew they'd do good. i don't I didn't think people thought that they'd make a billion dollars. you know like that's That's a lot of money. So I don't know. I'm curious about that.
00:24:23
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um but those are the major ones. I do have quick notes that I wrote, though. And I promise you it's it's four bullet points. Demi Moore beat out Zendaya.
00:24:36
Speaker
which That's a big one. that i Yeah, I think so too. i I think everyone probably assumed literally anyone else would win. um But Demi Moore winning was pretty cool, I think. I mean, i personally think that was pretty cool.
00:24:49
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But Zendaya was amazing.
00:24:53
Speaker
It's good. It doesn't take away from Zendaya's greatness because she did an amazing job. But it's cool to see a horror movie win. like As a horror fan. And Demi Moore bringing that home.
00:25:05
Speaker
That's great. That's good for the genre. Like, this is a major award and horror movies don't win major awards. No, not, I, again, um I was surprised when I saw she beat out, like some of the people she beat out, but my personal, I guess like my personal thoughts, i was like, oh, don't, I really don't care, but i love Challenger. So was like, okay, it'd be cool if she won just because I love the movie.
Irish Actors in Period Films
00:25:36
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But I'm sure everyone thought that anyone else would have won except for Demi Moore. So I was like, that's pretty cool. Challengers won. What happened? Agreed, agreed.
00:25:48
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Challengers won Best Original Score, but not Best Original Song, which I don't really know what that means, but I thought that was kind of funny. oh But...
00:26:01
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I'm not surprised. Challenger's had one of the best soundtracks I've ever heard in my life. I would listen to it sometimes in the car, driving work. Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails did did all the music, and he did a great job.
00:26:13
Speaker
That's pretty cool. That fucking album is... The thing is, the the music's cool. like You can hear it outside of the movie, and it's like, oh, this music's really fucking cool. But the i think if you didn't have the score for Challengers, I don't know if it would have been that intriguing. you know like I don't think it would have really gotten your attention.
00:26:40
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Well, the two go really well together. Yeah, yeah. like the The music sucks you into the... You can't watch the movie and not... like You can't watch it on mute. You know, and I've seen Due Date on mute.
00:26:52
Speaker
I love Due Date. I think Due Date is one of the funniest movies. I've seen it on mute. And you like you cannot watch Challengers on mute because the movie the the music just adds so much. to I'm not saying it makes it or breaks it. I'm just saying adds so much to it.
00:27:09
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So that was an interesting thing because I don't know what original song, original score, how they like. But anyways, Baby Reindeer, which I have no idea what it is, but heard a good show.
00:27:20
Speaker
beat the penguin, which I thought was a phenomenal show. um I don't know if you have seen the penguin. have seen the penguin, but I have seen Baby Reindeer. Okay, so then I got to watch Baby Reindeer, you got to watch the penguin, and got to see which one.
00:27:36
Speaker
Because the thing is, aye if something won, I can't be like, oh, that's stupid, because if I haven't seen it. um What did you think of of Baby Reindeer?
00:27:49
Speaker
I feel like it's hard to... Baby Reindeer is, like, based on a true story. It's like a It's like a memoir. So it's it's hard to be, like... Oh, interesting. Okay.
00:28:04
Speaker
Because this was an expansion... And so, the for reference, the guy whose memoir it is, like, that this shit happened to, plays the main character. It's kind of like he wrote he wrote a one-man show because he does stand-up.
00:28:17
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And then he turned his one man show into like a real Netflix show. Okay. And everyone else is paid actors, but the guy playing the lead role is the real guy that this happened to.
00:28:30
Speaker
Okay. I haven't seen it, but I, I, some people, some people I talked to have told me, they liked this. So yeah, it might be worthwhile. I don't know. I have like funny feelings about like being like, Oh yeah, I liked it. It's just like shit that happened to this guy. Yeah.
00:28:45
Speaker
Well, I'm going to watch it, definitely, because I'm like, if you beat out the Penguin, I need to see why, because... i love the Penguin. The Penguin was fucking phenomenal. That show was so good. the thing The thing that made the Batman so good was it was a crime detective movie. It wasn't...
00:29:06
Speaker
So much Batman being like this mythical... Without mythical power figure. It was... It's a kid. He's getting down and dirty. And he's really fucking not as good as he thinks he is.
00:29:19
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But the Penguin was just
Final Thoughts on 'The Damned' & Irish Beauty
00:29:21
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about a fucking scoundrel who is a fucking sellout. And... somebody Colin Farrell is so fucking good in It's ridiculous how good he is.
00:29:32
Speaker
And like the ending of the Penguin, which I won't say, but like even the ending of the Penguin, like you, you love kind of like you, you, you learn to love the Penguin, like the Penguin character.
00:29:44
Speaker
You're like, wow, this guy's out. He's a good guy. You know, like he's just genuine. Like i was just like, well, he's genuinely just trying to, Just be better. You know, he had some fuck ups.
00:29:56
Speaker
Then it ends and you're like, this guy was a fucking piece of shit. I hope he fucking dies in season two. You know? um But my last note was, and I just and just thought this was funny, but Nikki Glaser hosted, was up for an award for a stand-up and didn't win.
00:30:13
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And I just thought that was funny. Not that that is she shouldn't have won, but... I mean, it's kind of the opposite of funny. She wasn't funny enough. True. like I thought that that was funny, that she wasn't that funny, that her stand-up didn't win.
00:30:28
Speaker
And then she had to, like after they announced that, she had to at some point, come back up on stage as a loser and um you know still host. But that's all the notes I had.
00:30:41
Speaker
yeah um i some i think it's interesting. We're going to get the Oscar nomination soon. My question to you guys. One, I wanted to say, I thought it was great that the Challengers director just got up and walked out um when he didn't win.
00:31:00
Speaker
Because fuck everybody else. He did a great job. No, I agree, man. Yeah, this isn't sports. This is like like movies. You don't need to be a good sportsmanship.
00:31:12
Speaker
But i this might affect him big big time come Oscar season. because he will get nominated and people are really pissed off that he did that.
00:31:24
Speaker
aye personally I I being honest, I think it's a little bit tacky. um it's not very demure. i think it's kind of, you know, there's a, there's a culture in place. There's a, it it feels to me like, I don't know if you've ever been in like a like a performance, like a battle of the bands or something, or like any kind of competition or like show like that, where there's different acts going on.
00:31:53
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And it's usually like you're, it's kind of the, there's this precedent where like, you don't, you don't leave after your set is done. You kind of stay till the end with, with everyone until everyone is finished.
00:32:06
Speaker
That's probably like a weird example. It's not really the same thing, but I, I will say it's a little bit tacky. But I say this a lot. We live in the year 2025 and some things just are a little bit tacky, but it doesn't matter because we're not in 1950, if that makes sense.
00:32:23
Speaker
Yeah. but i got I do think it's something to be pointed out. I don't think it's nothing that he left. I think it's a little bit tacky. I think it's something a lot of people should talk about. I think. So here's. I think it's good.
00:32:34
Speaker
I think it is. If you're going to leave, you need to. Find a way to sneak out. And he didn't. He was like very theatrically.
00:32:45
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but yeah I don't have a big issue with leaving. i have a big issue with like the theatrics of it. Because you can leave an event at any time. What if you're sleepy? What if whatever? you know what What if you're bored?
00:33:01
Speaker
maybe maybe I'm sure half the people on there are bored. I mean, if you're bored, you're bored. That's different. But i you know you know maybe you have a prior engagement. Maybe you have You have to pick up your kids. you know People have life outside of award shows.
00:33:18
Speaker
So I don't mind leaving. you I feel like it's more proper to not let it be known the specific reason you're leaving. You shouldn't jump up and like flail and storm out when you leave. agree with that. I do agree with that.
00:33:35
Speaker
He's Italian. like That's what he does. He got a point there. I feel like Greg would have done the same thing. Those people never know how to fucking leave without making a scene.
00:33:46
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. He's going... In his mind, he thought he was leaving quiet. The opposite of an Irish goodbye. Yeah. yeah Italian and goodbye. Here's the thing.
00:33:57
Speaker
It's loud and it's embarrassing. i So I agree. i agree and not and I disagree because in sports... and And I love sports. So, like, I... Every time I think of things, if I can think of it also, like, in the way sports is, I will. And in sports, football season is still amongst us. So, if for whatever reason...
00:34:24
Speaker
you' Like you lose. If you're the quarterback and you lose and you don't go to the middle of the field, shake the other quarterback's hand and tell them good game, they make a huge fucking deal about it. Like Tom Brady.
00:34:36
Speaker
Right, right, right. They'll make a huge fucking deal about it. But the thing about sports is you're physically and mentally deteriorating as the event goes on where so much adrenaline is pumping.
00:34:54
Speaker
And then you just do impulsive acts because of that reason, you know, like, especially in, and I see it more in football than any other sport, because most other sports, it's like, okay, you're physically, you know, you I'm not saying they don't physically get tired, but you're not physically losing 10 years of your life, you know, on a five, seven year career.
00:35:18
Speaker
But Impulse happens because emotions happen because we're they're still human. Some of them might be on some shit. So like that kind of adds to it.
00:35:30
Speaker
But if they don't do the, if they walk out before the game's over, cameras is following them. And even if they were being polite, even cameras is following them. They're talking about it for weeks.
00:35:42
Speaker
And they're telling them that they're a fucking unsportsman and a piece of shit. And then they'll fucking dog them for a long time. On the other hand, they're not, this is just an event where you're just chilling, you're drinking, you're eating, you're not really, do your emotions, your adrenaline, all that stuff isn't kind of fucking on like,
00:36:07
Speaker
Max, like the needle's not about to burst during these things. Depends to how much wine he drank. Right, right. But the thing is, like, but then at that point, that's like like an outburst. What I'm saying is, i can understand. I agree that it shouldn't be done at all. But if it happens, who gives a fuck? Like,
00:36:26
Speaker
But in in sports, your adrenaline and like you're in so much pain. Your adrenaline is running. You're fucking impulsive because it's like you put so much effort into like one week and then you have a bad week because maybe you couldn't sleep. You didn't you couldn't find your fucking lucky socks, like whatever stupid reason. So they do things, they say things, they fucking overreact.
00:36:53
Speaker
But in an event like this, yeah, okay, maybe he drank too much. I mean, that's neither here nor there. If you're to leave and in an event like this, I feel like you have to have, like, a legitimate reason why. i don't think you can just be like, I lost. I'm out of here. Fuck you guys. Yeah, so I feel like i feel like one of my toxic traits is I don't know what it's like to be impulsive.
00:37:18
Speaker
I've never not, like, ruminated over a decision for, like, hours and hours, like i I carefully calculate everything that I do. So I don't always like. but So being impulsive is because I'm impulsive and I'm. But like, so in that specific situation, you're thinking about this game for months and months and months. You're training for it. You're practicing for it. You're doing whatever. Like you have a mental script of what this game is going to be.
00:37:45
Speaker
You have this game in your mind and in your mind, you know, you're like, oh, I'm staying till the end of the game. So to me, it's a little weird to like on game day, just like have this crazy outburst and completely flip the script that you've had in your head for weeks. It's it's not like you made a weird decision in the moment. It's like, you know what the script of the game is meant to be. But they but there's more.
00:38:13
Speaker
It comes down to winning. But it's there's more physical and mental aspects to sports. So you're telling me in the months leading up to this game, you never once considered that you might lose and what that would look like.
00:38:29
Speaker
Yeah. So yeah, no, like you don't Tom Brady. So the big thing was when Nick Foles beat him in the, in the Superbowl, Tom Brady stormed off the field without shaking Nick Foles's hand.
00:38:41
Speaker
And after that, he never shook his hand after that, after they saw each other, like, And we're talking, this was like 2017, so it's been years almost. And he hasn't, he won't shake his hand.
00:38:56
Speaker
Because going into it, he's like, um I can't lose. I'm Tom Brady. I'm the greatest. And I'm going to win, and I'm going to be the greatest of all time. and Even greater than that. like he's like And when he lost, he didn't know how to handle it. His world came crashing down, and he just walked off.
00:39:12
Speaker
Also, this is partially... the impulsiveness and the the kind of being an asshole is why his wife left him. see Yeah, but and i know and I agree with Julia too. Again, i I agree with you with like you kind of – the thing is in sports, yeah, you plan and you kind of know. And you know – the thing is you know you're not going to win every game, right?
00:39:37
Speaker
and Unless you're the 72 Dolphins, then – That's a different story, but. Especially, i feel like especially when the cameras are following you, when you're in real live time seeing people's reaction to your actions, does that not make you stop and think, hey, what am I doing right now? Well, I think what I'm trying to put No, no. When you get up, you can't go back.
00:39:59
Speaker
Then you're just George Costanza. Like, if you get up and you storm halfway through and stop and be like, kidding, like. People are going to make fun of I think he's funny. no like He is funny. But I agree. but i agree that this what i'm the The point I'm trying to kind of like put out is... And and I'm not like standing up for athletes over directors anything like that. but the So the thing is...
00:40:25
Speaker
They're kind of similar. They're working year-round. They don't have much time. Very dramatic. I feel like, yeah, yeah, both are very dramatic and and attitudes and all this other stuff, right? But the one thing I think that kind of takes it apart is the mental the mental aspect of it is probably the same.
00:40:47
Speaker
You plan for it. You have a vision of what you want to do. you you know you kind of go about your business. You do this. You do that. I think the only difference is ah director's not spending, like, they'll probably spend, say, 100 hours a week on focusing on what they have to do.
00:41:07
Speaker
But, like, an athlete would also spend 100 hours a week focusing on what they have to do, plus, like, 20 hours a week physically preparing for what they have to do. So it's like,
00:41:20
Speaker
There's like two levels to it. and And this is very rare for it to happen. People usually are, and I use this in quotes, professional, even when they're at their angriest.
00:41:31
Speaker
So there was an outburst recently where a player was like, I'm out. I got to think about my family. I'm out. But then they, I guess they talked and it was like, I'm assuming the conversation went, well, you're under contract. If you breach contract, we're going to take millions of dollars away from you.
00:41:48
Speaker
um We're not going to trade you. So going just lose money and you're not going to be fucking happy. So shut the fuck up and deal with it. right I'm assuming that's how it is because owners don't give a fuck just how like producers don't give a fuck.
00:42:01
Speaker
But they have to abide by the rules of the owner of the team the coaches, this, that, and the third, same way they have to do producers in the studio.
00:42:11
Speaker
So, like, it is it is the same. It's very similar. But I think it's easier to be impulsive when... The emotions are higher. the The adrenaline is high because it's the adrenaline that's pumping in you.
00:42:25
Speaker
So you're not really thinking much about like the thing is to your your adrenaline is running so high and you're also trying to mentally take away from all the physical pain you're in.
00:42:39
Speaker
I mean, I feel like it just comes down to emotional immaturity. That's what it is at the end of the day. Maybe they worked so hard their whole life on being an athlete. They just never became emotionally mature.
00:42:51
Speaker
and like I did say, like, I know it's 2025. So like social faux pas are not really what they used to be. So you can say, yeah, that was rude to do, but we're moving on from it. It's not a huge deal.
00:43:03
Speaker
However, like any any form of like entertainment, you're there for entertainment. So I feel like we can kind of focus on it because it's like, they are there to be a spectacle. They're, they are like the, they're also at their job.
00:43:18
Speaker
The thing is at the end of the day, you both know what you signed up for. So like, it' it's kind of the, of like, it's like if you're in a work meeting and someone else gets a, they announced that someone else gets a promotion and like, yeah, it's weird to announce that in front of everyone. and you thought you were getting the promotion You feel shitty about it, but you like storm out in front of everybody at work.
00:43:42
Speaker
Like, same thing. I agree. No, I agree. but he did it at the He did it at the wrong time. like I'm wrapping this segment up. because But um he, this is the beginning of awards ceremony season.
00:43:58
Speaker
um He's most likely to be nominated. And so is Zendaya. And he represents the whole Challengers movie. And, you know, you get it, you know, Zendaya lost, he loses, that sucks. You're upset.
00:44:10
Speaker
But you, have you're the the director, you're the helm of the movie. You're the captain of the ship. And now all these people in there are voters. Like they are soon to be voting for you or against you. And their last impression of you is storming out. And like, whether or not I care or not, or I thought it was funny. Yes.
00:44:30
Speaker
But like, If I'm an older person who values certain things and I'm a voter and I'm in the room and this asshole just runs off, I might not vote for him on principle. No, right, right. And that's why I was closing off with is like, at the end of the day, you athletes, directors, actors, ah people in IT, whatever, you know what you signed up for. so if you want And he might have affected Zendaya too or another person up for nominations.
00:45:00
Speaker
And the thing is, regardless what your ethics and whatever, you still got to buy. but Listen, I hate the fucking rules. I hate hierarchy. I hate all that stuff. I hate fucking superior complexes.
00:45:13
Speaker
People that think I hate all that stuff. Right. And I every day battle that. But I'm also i also know it doesn't matter what I think because they'll just fire me and find someone else. And then I'm like, oh, fuck, i have a hard time.
00:45:28
Speaker
He, you know, okay, cool. He left. I'm like, hey, fuck it, man. Stand up for yourself. But at the same time, listen, all these old fucks that believe in like these old traditional ways...
00:45:41
Speaker
hey, if they don't vote for you, that's on you, buddy. You should have fucking played the game and you didn't play the game. so Right, because we know it is a game. We know that the people that vote are old and they have traditional values. We know that. Yeah, it's not like it's it's not like it's a computer-generated... know they vote based on those things that they don't vote based on like the quality of your filmmaking.
00:46:01
Speaker
Right, right, right. They vote off of other stuff. like If there was a controversy before um award season... they're taking that in consideration. They're not going to be like, well, this movie was super phenomenal. And we're going to explore that in a future episode.
00:46:17
Speaker
Yeah, but I'm going to end it there, Pat. We can move on. Alright, so The Damned came out, this is the first um first release, real release of 2025. It came out the first week of the year.
00:46:31
Speaker
It also reminds me, um I don't know, you remember Beavis and Butthead when they were at At the Hoover Dam, he's like, well, I'll be damned. Oh, yeah, yeah. yeah peace into america yeah He's like, is this a goddamned?
00:46:48
Speaker
Oh, man, great, great movie. Everyone should watch Beavis by Do America. But so this movie gets released. First horror movie of the year, one of the first movies of the year. um Irish horror film going into folklore aspects, which was cool.
00:47:03
Speaker
director, the door person, um, first international theatrical release. So that's really cool. He wrote the story and, um, he had, so he wrote the story and then he's like, well, what do I do with it from here? i don't know what to do with this.
00:47:18
Speaker
So he found the screenwriter to help him turn to a movie script. They worked on it together, made this movie. the First question before I go over some more specs of the movie was one, do you like, do you want to see more from this director?
00:47:31
Speaker
I definitely do. I actually really, really enjoyed this film and I would like to see more. I was like very pleasantly surprised. I think everyone should check it out if they haven't seen it Yeah, would to see more from them.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah. Odessa Young, that's the main character, he got her... She signed on to the movie two years before filming. She was hardly an actor. um The director kept like her interested as she went through different jobs and minor acting roles just by like taking her out from coffee and being like, Hey, like we got more funding. We're going to start filming soon.
00:48:10
Speaker
Um, so like it was a real, like everyone was struggling to get this movie. It's a real, like, I hate using the word passion project, but it was like, they worked very hard at securing funding and getting funding.
00:48:23
Speaker
The movie was filmed in Iceland and, um, because the ice the director one always wanted to go to Iceland, and it was cheap to film there. grossed $700,000 on opening weekend.
00:48:39
Speaker
I don't know what it's at now, but at the time, it was the top grossing film of 2025. It's got 88% on Rotten Tomatoes. Julia, you give us a quick overview, and then we'll talk about what we think.
00:48:51
Speaker
I can. So... um The movie is about the name, the main character is Eva, played by Odessa Young, like you said, and it's about her.
00:49:03
Speaker
Her husband owned a fishing outpost and he died in a shipwreck. So now it's it's the next year and everyone kind of assumed that she would like sell the outpost, sell the boats and everything and not continue to run this business that they had.
00:49:20
Speaker
But to everyone's surprise, she kept it open. So the following year, it's fishing season. And now she, as a woman, is running this fishing outpost, which is pretty rare for the time. It's like the 1800s.
00:49:35
Speaker
um But it's it's an interesting dynamic because she's a woman, but she's in charge. She owns everything. She owns the boat, so she makes the decisions. And they respect her.
00:49:46
Speaker
Right, right. And it's it's kind of nice to see, like, the... it's It's like a really nice, interesting dynamic. But anyway, um it turns out that that it's an extremely harsh winter and the fishing conditions, they just are not able to catch enough food.
00:50:02
Speaker
So everyone's staying there and working. They end up having to like eat the bait that they were using for fishing. They just don't have enough food. And then one day they witness a shipwreck off the shore because there are these like jagged rocks not far from the shore and it's the same place where Eva's husband was killed.
00:50:24
Speaker
His ship was wrecked on these rocks. So they witnessed the shipwreck and all of the men go overboard and they're watching this shipwreck unfold and they have to decide like, Hey, are we going to go on a rescue mission and rescue all those men?
00:50:41
Speaker
and they're like, Ooh, there's probably like 30 guys on that ship. And we have like literally zero food. So, and it ends up being Eva's decision. They're like, they're like, it's literally your boat. You own the boat. So you decide if we go rescue them or not.
00:51:00
Speaker
And she says, no, she's like, we literally don't have the food, but they decide just out of respect. They're like, she's like, we just won't fish today so that we're not like fishing in front of these men that are dying. But basically they let all of these men like die as far as they know.
00:51:19
Speaker
Do you want the long version of this or the short version? are we like going for like the long synopsis or am I just giving like a rough outline here? Just give a rough outline. Okay. So I'll skip ahead some.
00:51:29
Speaker
um Basically, they they're like cursed after this. And... Like... The demon... It's like a Draugr. um
00:51:43
Speaker
ah demon created by like an angry spirit. They basically think they're cursed by, like, the spirits of the men that they let die. There's, like, all this paranormal shit happening.
00:51:55
Speaker
um There's a lot of jump scares in this movie, which I personally don't mind. I like jump scares in movies. They go back and forth. Some people believe it's paranormal. Some people don't.
00:52:07
Speaker
All this chaos ensues from them being, like, followed by this demon. People get killed. um turns out in the end, I did not like the ending of this.
00:52:17
Speaker
It's one of those times where like, yeah yeah it's that trope of where you think it's paranormal that it's, but it's not. Unfortunately, in the end, you find out that a lot of it was hallucinations and there was actually like what she thought was a demon following her was actually like one of the men that survived the shipwreck.
00:52:39
Speaker
Um, So i overall, I really enjoyed like most of this film. i thought it was great. like The vibes were great. If you're into folk you would love this. If you like like Robert Eggers films, you should really give this a try.
00:52:54
Speaker
But I personally am just, I really don't like that trope because I prefer supernatural movies. Just personally, I think they're more fun. So anytime a movie... leads you to think that things are supernatural and then it turns out in the end it was really just like natural stuff going on. I'm i'm usually not a big fan of that because it's kind of like disappointing. I feel like the rug is pulled out from under me.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah, I was i was a little disappointed by that too. And when we were in the theater at at the end as the credits were rolling, someone yelled, I want my money back. And it was Tuesday. So I yelled back, you paid $5.
00:53:34
Speaker
And then they yelled back, yeah, but like shitty movie. And I was like, okay, whatever. Yeah, that's a... Oh, I think I actually yelled back, if you're broke, just say that.
00:53:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think the exact quote was, if you're broke, just say so. Yeah, I think that was the exact quote. Because I assumed... nice people I envisioned it like this when you said it. So I was like,
00:54:03
Speaker
Alright. But anyways, I yeah didn't like that. um I'm not a big fan of yelling out this movie. If the movie sucked, the movie sucked. Just fucking go home. you know like Go home.
00:54:14
Speaker
Again, that's why I said if you're broke, just say that. Because I see a great... As you know, I've seen a great many films that I hated. And I very rarely complain about wanting my money back. Especially when I spend $5.
00:54:29
Speaker
Yeah. don't I don't know. think that was stupid. I was like, you can't spend five fucking dollars and two hours to support like a small filmmaker. like Not even that.
00:54:41
Speaker
Just fucking take the loss. If the movie sucked to you, take the loss. Maybe you should have looked up more what it was. Yeah, exactly. And the thing is, she was on a date, so like I highly doubt she even paid.
00:54:53
Speaker
So that's my opinion. My theory is it was the first time she ever paid for a date. And she was pissed because she didn't like it. That's also a valid point.
00:55:03
Speaker
Like, either one of those... It's either one of those two situations. Her man probably accused her of being a gold digger. he took her out to, like, Red Lobster, like, 17 times. And then she took him to McDonald's and $5 movie day and then tried to get a refund.
00:55:20
Speaker
Yeah. Because that $15 was really hurting her, like... Yeah, just a strange thing. i didn't like the ending. I agree with the ending. Could have did better.
00:55:33
Speaker
i don't know if you just half-assed the ending. i don't know if you thought this was visionary. mean, I think that's a very common trope. That's also kind of like the origin of like haunted house stories. a lot of haunted house stories from that era, like the original paranormal um like novels and stuff, they all...
00:55:53
Speaker
It's not so much. they They all feature like a haunted house that appears to be haunted. And then at the end you find out it was just like creaky floorboards. So that's not like an original idea. It's kind of like a classic.
00:56:03
Speaker
It's just not my favorite though. Like I said, I, I like paranormal movies cause I like to like use my imagination. I like to, I like to be in another world. i'm not a set I'm not upset by that necessarily.
00:56:17
Speaker
i was just upset. I just felt like it was hurry up, hurry up, just fucking just get it done so we can go home kind of thing, you know? I feel like the last 10 minutes were just super half-ass. but i don't I don't mind if you find out that there's just something fucking wrong with her. you know Maybe she's sick. Maybe she's got a fever.
00:56:35
Speaker
Maybe she ate some fucking fish and it wasn't no good. Maybe she ate some shrimp instead of eating some scrimps. there's Especially because I feel like I really resonated with this character and I really loved this character. Also, like the casting and the acting of this movie was phenomenal. Literally, like i think 10 out 10.
00:56:54
Speaker
So I really liked the main character and then to get to the end and find out that she was like, I don't know if it's offensive to say like she was just crazy the whole time and they do kind of like a flashback situation of like, they replay scenes that we saw earlier, but they show what really happened. um Yeah, I hate that.
00:57:16
Speaker
She catches the creature and she like shoots it, I think, and also like burns down the house. with it inside and you're like, okay, she burned the demon. She cleansed it with fire and that's how you get rid of the demon. So you're like, oh cool, it's over. But then they show a flashback to her encounter with the demon and you see that it was actually a man and he's like, he's like, please, like, please, I need help.
00:57:41
Speaker
Like, I'll do anything. I just need food. He's like, please let me stay here. And you're like, oh, it's one of the shipwrecked guys. I just, yeah, it's just, I don't, I also don't like that of,
00:57:51
Speaker
of flashbacks but showing it differently that's also so go ahead the only time i really liked it was in a christmas horror story um and that's because like the guy was delusional and there was hints at this throughout the movie and then you like at the end it's like oh shit um so they they kind of get away with that it's a christmas movie and it's fun this like it really felt like at the last minute, we're like, we're just going give you a 180. And whereas I guess they wanted people to be like, Oh my, that was crazy.
00:58:29
Speaker
But like, I felt like, man, that's like, cause I was, I'm similar to Julia, like about 75% of this movie. I'm like, this is the shit. Like this might be it. Like we're starting the year off.
00:58:41
Speaker
And like, I don't think it gets better than this. And then i agree like that ending was such a jolt where I'm like, man, fuck this. And like, i like oh go obviously just say I liked it because I read a lot of those like old-timey horror movies, like horror, like ghost stories and paranormal from like the 1800s. And like, yeah, like this felt like one of those, but it felt worse.
00:59:09
Speaker
Yeah. They kind of, it's funny because they kind of did the same thing in the movie It Ends With Us. And i literally just watched that like, last week also.
00:59:21
Speaker
But, um, if you don't know, it's, like, a movie about, like, domestic violence, and in all of the scenes throughout the movie, they'll show, like, a fight happening between the couple or, like, an encounter.
00:59:34
Speaker
and it's, like, not really anything. it'll It'll literally show, like, Blake Lively's character, like, falling down and like, her husband, like, not touching her, but she accidentally falls. But then at the end of the movie, they show flashbacks scenes and in the flashback he hits her and I thought that was crazy in that movie and kind of reminded me of that like the flashback changing the narrative it's it's a very different scenario but it's kind like the same thing I did watch it I know what you're saying where I don't want to see it yeah it was bad but like I'm almost positive could be wrong but I swear when I watched it because there were scenes where I'm like okay he didn't hit her
01:00:17
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he bumped into her and she fell. Like i I watched the scene very closely because it's a film about domestic violence. So I'm looking closely to see, you know, what's happening. Cause I know that's coming. So like you very clearly see that he does not hit her cause you're watching for it.
01:00:34
Speaker
And then at the end of the film, they show a flashback and it's very, very obvious that he hit her deliberately.
01:00:42
Speaker
And it's kind of the same thing where you're showing it From the main character's perspective, it's meant to show, like, when she's in that moment, she doesn't see it that way She doesn't clock that he hit her, but she realizes it later on.
01:01:00
Speaker
And it was kind of cheesy there, and it's cheesy here, unfortunately. Yeah, I agree. I think it was worse in It Ends With Us, but... Yeah, I want to talk about that, but that's for a different episode.
01:01:13
Speaker
But I think I can see where you're saying that because it does... i don't mind the flashbacks. you know like I don't mind that if it's done right. But... and this one would ah would have been fine. But and just feel like it was... All right, come on, hurry up.
01:01:29
Speaker
Hurry up so we can go. you know It's like kind of like when when when... Well, I say when anyone's parents. But like if anyone's parents ever were like, just hurry up, put your fucking shoes on so we can go.
01:01:40
Speaker
And you put on like your... school shoes and not your, like, outside shoes. And then they're, like, fucking yelling at you because you have your, like, you know saying? Like, it's just like, Harry the come on, let's go. Yeah, you're trying to leave for church and you got your Crocs on.
01:01:53
Speaker
Right, like, you're trying to do it, right? you're Like, you're trying to do what you're supposed to do. But then they're just like, all right, just just fucking Harry the fuck up. and Come on, because we're late. And, know, it gave the the end, the last, like, ten minutes kind of gave me that vibe of,
01:02:07
Speaker
They're just kind of like rushing through it and I love movies. i love dark movies. I love eerie movies. I love cold movies. you know i don't know. i got this weird thing about cold movies that...
01:02:20
Speaker
I'm kind of really into that lately too because we're having like a really we're having a not super harsh winter but more harsh than last year. It's been pretty cold so I'm really on a kick of watching like cold snowy movies.
01:02:31
Speaker
And if you do a cold movie right, like i think the thing is... Horror is meant to be cold. Well, you can use your environment. like Take Nosferatu for example.
01:02:44
Speaker
They used their environment perfectly. It was one of the best uses of their environment to where it's like you feel dark. like you can fucking so like You know he stinks and you can fucking smell him. you know and i feel like this this movie wasn't as good with that, but...
01:03:02
Speaker
It's like, you know it's fucking cold. Like, you can feel... You know it's cold and you know it stinks like fish. Right, right, right. And it's like... You know they're... Even though they're having a a fun time, you know they're not having a fun time. Yeah. You know, because it it stinks. They're probably and the back of their minds thinking like, damn, we drank too much. now we're not going to have nothing to drink next week. And so it's like they use their environment well. They did a lot of stuff well. And I love...
01:03:32
Speaker
I love movies. So I know this wasn't a popular opinion, but i really liked ISS. And I liked ISS for that same reason that it's it gave it reminded me of ISS where it's like there's literally nowhere to go.
01:03:48
Speaker
The movie, they they walked around their whole fucking like village, and it was two places. It was where the bodies were. On the bottom of the hill where Helga, if this is wrong, I'm sorry, but Helga or Olga or whatever. Her name is Helga. Helga, okay.
01:04:06
Speaker
Where Helga was um ran off to and their house. So it's like it then took them all fucking day to get back and forth.
01:04:19
Speaker
you know But it's like there's literally nowhere to go. there was actually There was actually a scene where she's walking back by herself and it's like she's trying to run away she thinks she sees this entity and she's trying to run away. And you really don't know like where else are you going to fucking go.
01:04:38
Speaker
It's like you're running away from it, yeah, and you can probably be you know super far from it, but it's like eventually you have to stop running because there's nowhere else to run to. Well, yeah, it's three days away minimum foot to the nearest village, but it's also they made it clear that it's too cold to be out that long.
01:05:01
Speaker
They don't have proper... Right, but even even like running from where the graveyard was to her home, you know even if she... Because that seemed like it was really far away, too.
01:05:14
Speaker
But even then, you're running and you're running, and it's like, where are you running to? You have nowhere to go. like There's literally nowhere to go. And that's kind of like what I liked about ISS, because that is scary to me. It's like, yeah, you can hide, and you can float around, and oh You know, do whatever it is you want to do to to avoid it.
01:05:37
Speaker
But after a while, I'm going to thoroughly check the five places you can be in and I'm going to find you. Just how this entity is like, okay, you just ran. Maybe I can't run, but I know where the fuck you're going. You're going to that house.
01:05:55
Speaker
There's nowhere else you can go. So I like those kind of movies. That gave me that kind of like, creepy vibe, you know? And there's a, I got this like weird fear of also like sleeping and sleeping around people.
01:06:15
Speaker
And the fact that they all like, there might have been a door, but I'm sure to want it like a door door, you know? And like, to me, that's, that's terrifying to not be in it. Like to not be able to like shut your door, you know? So like,
01:06:32
Speaker
being immersed in this world where, yeah, it's so it's a certain time period and all that, but being like, they did a good job kind of sucking you into this world, well, least me, where I can understand some of the concerns that they have, you know, based off of just certain things. I mean, sleeping in the same room with someone on separate beds i don't I've never done it, and I feel like that's probably terrifying.
01:07:03
Speaker
what if you What if you wake up and you're like... but the The one guy was having fever dreams or something and was trying to kill someone. like I don't fucking know what you're going to do.
01:07:14
Speaker
You know what saying? I like that they... i like that they They probably had no intentions of that being like a frightening part. But I love that they suck you into this world. They they bring you into like their universe.
01:07:29
Speaker
And felt... basically felt like I was there. And that's why I could experience some of these like weird fears that I have. That um I've never shaken.
01:07:42
Speaker
shooken. Or shooked it. it Shaken? Shaken. Shaken. I've never shaken... ah So, yeah I thought it was good. i i thought i thought it was like a night swim, but like a better night swim, you know?
01:08:00
Speaker
think it was way better than night swim. I mean, i liked night swim, but this was way better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I enjoyed night swim. This also wasn't like top tier. Like, I've seen, you know, I mean, it's it's it's unfair to say because we saw Nosferatu like a week or so before that. So, it is unfair to say, but...
01:08:18
Speaker
it is one of those things where it's like, it wasn't a bad follow-up. Like, it could have been Nosferatu, which was phenomenal, and then it would have, and then like, just imagine Nosferatu and Tarot.
01:08:32
Speaker
You know what saying? I still feel like that's unfair. Tarot was awful. No, no, no, I'm not comparing it to Tarot. I'm saying just imagine going from Nosferatu to Tarot.
01:08:43
Speaker
You know? Right, like, an amazing film to terrible. Right, right. This was like an amazing film to like a good film. I still feel like, I would kind of say this was amazing. Like many elements of this film, like cast 10 out of 10, acting 10 out of 10, costumes 10 out 10, like overall plot 10 out of 10.
01:09:05
Speaker
It just wasn't like they, it wasn't my favorite ending, but I really, really enjoyed this. I thought it was great. So I'm going to, I'd probably hang out with Julia too much, so I'm going to pull a Julia and say that these two are good double features to play.
01:09:24
Speaker
Nosferatu and The Damned. They're cold. There's some kind of creepy fucking thing going around. one one really knows what's going on. people are going you know People are losing their fucking minds.
01:09:35
Speaker
um I mean, i would always argue that with Nosferatu, you have to watch Last Voyage of the Demeter as a double feature. But if you need three films to watch, I feel like Last Voyage of the Demeter is a great bridge between Nosferatu and Damned.
01:09:52
Speaker
Because then it takes you on a boat. Well, here's the thing. If you need to pair a movie with Nosferatu, then it has to be The Last Voyage of Demeter. If you need to pair a movie with The Damned, it has to be Nosferatu.
01:10:06
Speaker
They're cold. That's fair. They're dark. they They both have some chick that's like super fucking respect. And Fly, too. I think they both were Fly. I mean i loved i genuinely love the outfit she had on. like That sweater, I would wear that sweater.
01:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, costumes are 10 out of 10. am so impressed. And that is, you know, like that is really important to me. and if, one, I love a period piece, but two, I'm going to be insanely critical of a period piece.
01:10:39
Speaker
If the costumes are not appropriate, I'm going to have a bad time, and I had a good time. Another small thing that's just a me thing, probably. I watch... i watch more than I should rom-coms and romantic and comedyic comedy movies.
01:10:58
Speaker
there's There's always the there's always like sexual tension. I mean, Fox and fox and Scully. and There's always like sexual tension. And I love that there was some with like the new guy that was appointed.
01:11:12
Speaker
boat master. i was i was upset when the one Fisher guy died because they were about to hook up. That's the thing. I was like that there's always waiting for them to be like... And um I always be like, okay, at some point they're going to like, maybe it's going to be like, no, I shouldn't do that. But then he just like fucking immediately died. And I was like, yeah I personally thought that was a little disappointing because it's like.
01:11:35
Speaker
Especially like at the. he gave off He gave off like last, like final girl. and That time period can be so romantic only because the culture of that time period, you don't date, you don't talk to someone, you do not interact really with the opposite sex.
01:11:51
Speaker
So like if two people of the opposite sex are interacting, like they're about to get married. So like in my mind, I'm watching this film and I'm like, they're, they're looking at each other. They're making eye contact. They got to get married soon.
01:12:05
Speaker
Yeah, yeah no the thing is, i assume the same thing. i've Like I said, I've seen way too many movies where... And for them to like touch each other's hand, that means like that's so intimate. so it's like Well, they have the like face-to-face thing where it's like... Yeah, like the chemistry, the romance was off the charts and then he gets killed.
01:12:22
Speaker
i yeah Well, that's what I thought was funny. It was like the will they, won won't they... And then he just fucking gets killed. And it's like, damn, I thought at least if y'all didn't hook up, I thought at least you would be one of the final three.
01:12:35
Speaker
And you got some Barry Keoghan looking guy who was one of the final three, you know, and then the guy who like thought Jesus was going to save them or something. I feel like those were like the last three people. And also something about Irish people, they look like they've never seen an iPhone in their life. You know what I mean? Like when you cast Irish people,
01:12:57
Speaker
I automatically am immersed. Like, I believe that it's the 1800s because something about Irish people just makes them look like they're from the 1800s. Yeah.
01:13:09
Speaker
yeah Nosferatu, we can go back and forth. It's like Lily Rose Depp. It's like, I don't know. i love that film. She did a great job, but i'm like, I don't know. Does she pass the... Do I believe that she's never seen an iPhone before? i don't know.
01:13:27
Speaker
No. But I let it slide. cause that No, because she did a good job. Yeah. She's got maybe too much filler, but that's okay. The Damned, on the other hand, those people look like they came out of a time machine.
01:13:43
Speaker
They look like you could... if you gave them like a nerd's gummy cluster, they would die. Yeah. yeah I'm looking at Irish actors and i'm starting to think...
01:13:56
Speaker
Like, am I wrong? Like, Barry Keoghan, you could cast him at, like, you could cast him as a caveman, and and you'd be like, I believe it. Colin Farrell? i don't know if he has an iPhone.
01:14:07
Speaker
Probably doesn't. But, like, they just, for some reason, i don't know how to explain it, like, every actor in that film, they just look like the time period. Like, they don't look like they're unaffected by, like, the sands of time. Like, you watch period pieces sometimes, and you're like,
01:14:25
Speaker
Everybody's got like procedures. Everybody has had braces. Everybody looks clean. Irish people, there're there's there's like a rough edge about them. where theyre But they're still like so beautiful. Like I thought that main actress was like so beautiful still.
01:14:43
Speaker
But she looked like she's not from this time. Like she she looked like you'd find like a painting of her in the attic. And then her ghost would be like roaming the halls.
01:14:54
Speaker
That's fair. Pat, what are your thoughts on the Irish people? Man, they're alright. the it They look like they never healed from the from the famine. They look like they've had a rough winter.
01:15:08
Speaker
bear watch kneecap. I have to, but I forget where it's streaming at. I gotta look it up. think it's Netflix. ah got a I gotta make a list of movies I need to see and watch them.
01:15:20
Speaker
But also, I do not support Irish Americans. I just want to put that out there. if you're Irish and American, nobody's talking about you. We don't care about you. This isn't about you.
01:15:35
Speaker
You probably have an iPhone face. but feel all Americans yeah give off, like, I've seen iPhone vibes. Like, i I definitely give off, like, iPhone face.
01:15:50
Speaker
No matter where I go, I can fucking wear a poncho and I'll be like, Maybe you're Irish. Don't tell me I'm appropriator. They probably do.
01:16:03
Speaker
I'm sure of it. You probably go to Mexico and they're like, look at this fucking guy. well i can't I can't go to Mexico and and blend in I can't do it because every particle of clothing I owe i own American.
01:16:16
Speaker
I'll you a of family and like if you i show i'll show you a picture of my my family And you you' you'll immediately be like, I know exactly what you're saying.
01:16:30
Speaker
Because it just don't and just ain't it, you know? So I'm not sure what like i' not sure what Irish Americans are like, but I'm assuming I can't fit in.
01:16:44
Speaker
It's like the same clothes, but it's different clothes. You know what I'm saying? Hard to explain, but like I can't go because I don't own anything that resembles any of this.
01:16:59
Speaker
Like, my mom sticks out like a sore thumb. My mom has striped pants on. Oh, see i thought I thought that was the Mexican attire, but you're saying it's not. That's American. No, my mom has striped pants on. Yeah, I'm not really sure what's going on there, but I wasn't going to say anything because that's your mom. No, I mean, she's got striped pants on. oh And she doesn't listen to the podcast because I cuss a lot.
01:17:20
Speaker
So, you know... It was either this or purple pants. I think my sister threw away her purple pants. That's irrelevant. um Pat, i don't know. We can move on, Pat, if you want.
01:17:32
Speaker
Hey, we can edit it. All
Golden Globes Legitimacy & Movie Recommendations
01:17:34
Speaker
right. So um Golden Globes. Here's my final thoughts. Golden Globes. i always hear the joke that that you buy, you buy the Golden Globes.
01:17:48
Speaker
So I'm always curious to how much truth that has because some of the winners, I wonder how they won. Not that they don't deserve it, but like I always wonder why were you better than this person? Because I'm also a fucking idiot. I just love certain things.
01:18:08
Speaker
So the Golden Globes has a different voting than the um Oscars than the Screen Actors Guild Awards. Right, and and and but the the joke is always that like they bought these. like they paid you know They paid for their Golden Globes kind of thing. so like But I wonder what like the actual like difference between the two is. What's up?
01:18:34
Speaker
Last final thought is if you want to kick back during the harsh winter... And just kind of chill figuratively and literally.
01:18:48
Speaker
Watch the dam. And also be terrified. Yes. If you want to feel cold and scared, watch the dam. Yeah. Pretty much.
01:19:00
Speaker
That's all I have to say. I don't know if you got any final thoughts. Every year we get like one really good Irish movie. And this year it's probably the dam.
01:19:13
Speaker
Too soon to know. Not a bad start. I will say this was an incredible start to the year. And there was a brief moment where this was the highest grossing movie of the year. And I love that for them.
01:19:26
Speaker
it was Because it was the first movie that came out of this year. her Pat was like, it's the highest grossed film of 2025. And I was like, you're so full of shit. And then I checked. And the date was January 5th or something like that. And I was like, Pat, it fucking makes sense because it's January 5th.
01:19:45
Speaker
But also, I love that they got to have that because like I said, I thought it was an amazing film. yeah i I hope that director. they could have struck out. Yeah, so I'm trump happy. cause And I also assume that not a lot of people are going to see this because I never saw a trailer for it.
01:19:58
Speaker
I didn't see anything about it. The only reason I knew this existed is because I personally check the Cinemark app every day. And if you're not doing that, you wouldn't have known this existed.
01:20:09
Speaker
So I assume not a lot of people saw it And I just think it deserves some recognition. yeah I saw it opening night and it was like five people in the movie.
01:20:22
Speaker
If you think Julia is full of shit, i for context, I don't check the Cinemark app and I have no idea ever what's going on. I'm the most careless, irresponsible person when it comes to knowing what's going on. yeah like when I tell you, and I follow movie news, I see movie trailers constantly just because my algorithms show them to me whether I want them or not.
01:20:43
Speaker
And I would not have any clue that this film existed had I not looked at the Cinemark app to see what was playing that week. I scrolled past a movie called The Damned. i was like, I love a religious coded horror.
01:20:58
Speaker
That shit is right up my alley. Anything where there's a fucking demon curse involved, sign me the fuck up. Yeah.
01:21:10
Speaker
Unfortunately, my algorithm now is three tombstone clips and old rap videos. i don't know how I got to this point in my life, but... That's my YouTube algorithm for the moment.
01:21:23
Speaker
Alright, let's end it. Alright, then yeah, we're done.