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Oscars 2025
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The year is 2025. The Oscars are over and The Crew is now looking forward to another year of amazing horror films that will not be nominated because the world can't handle beautiful art.
What were your thoughts on the actual winners? Was anyone snubbed? Would anyone who was originally snubbed during nominations have beat out any current winners? Will Julia being to infiltrate the red carpet some day? Who would win in a dress up competition - Enrique or Adam Sandler? What age did Enrique realize that all of the Culkin's are related? Was the Challengers soundtrack better than The Brutalist?
Thank you for listening! Enjoy! Part 3 of 3 of Oscars rant.
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00:00:00
Speaker
Let's get it. All right. We're ready.
Introduction: Oscars from a Horror Perspective
00:00:04
Speaker
Oh, another episode of what we saw last night. Philadelphia and South Jersey's prominent horror culture podcast.
00:00:12
Speaker
Although today we're going to be talking about the Academy Awards, but it was very horror themed and we'll try to take a like a horror perspective. So let's let's get into it. I don't have like a warm up question prepared because what what could actually, you know what?
Horror Films Overlooked by Oscars
00:00:29
Speaker
Here would be oh If we were to go through our history, what horror movie should have won in the past? like we We look at the impact horror has on culture, and there's very little horror representation in the Academy Awards. So what horror movie should have won in the past?
00:00:50
Speaker
Good question. Skinnamarine.
00:00:57
Speaker
oh Hold on. I'm trying to think of, like, recent, like, really groundbreaking. I would have loved it. It doesn't even have to be recent. It could be just groundbreaking. Well, it's i feel like hard to think of, like, I'm trying to think, like, what are my favorite movies, what really stood out to me.
00:01:14
Speaker
yeah That's fair. Because I think, like, Halloween, like, just how, we like, big Halloween is and, like, the impact. They weren't ready for it. That's the thing is a lot of, like, Halloween – I know it was big, but I see it as more of like a cult classic. Like people at the time did not appreciate the way that we appreciate. Like yeah it didn't hit the same back then. That's true.
00:01:39
Speaker
I would, you know what?
Impact of Recognition on Horror Films
00:01:44
Speaker
I have another one too. So ah so i'm gonna I'm just name a few. um In the 90s, it should have been Blair Witch.
00:01:54
Speaker
In the 2000s, it should have been Paranormal Activity. Not because they were the best, but they were groundbreaking. agree with Blair Witch. Paranormal Activity... I mean, I agree. I have to say, like, those are two of my, like, top favorite movies of all time.
00:02:09
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and um um Because I'm looking at, like, more more recent... But also, wouldn't... Like, they just were not ready because, like, people still thought the Blair Witch was real.
00:02:21
Speaker
So I feel like the award, it would have ruined it. Like you could not have those actors an award ceremony. It would have ruined everything. like I wouldn't mind us. I was going to, I was waiting. That's what I was going to say.
Recognition for Horror Performances
00:02:37
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and like Lupita N'Golo should have won best actress.
00:02:41
Speaker
She should have had been nominated. She should have won best actress and best supporting actress. Yeah. The fact that she wasn't nominated. ah You can't play two roles phenomenally and not get nominated for one of the two.
00:02:56
Speaker
And and i kind of agree with Julia. um i think Blair Witch should, but then you're right. like you would have like I feel like you would have to have like the parents of the actors to keep that bit going that they died.
00:03:11
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like The parents would have to pick up the award for them. Yeah, and it just it would ruin it. That would be awesome, though.
Blair Witch Realism and Awards
00:03:20
Speaker
If like the parents picked up the award? I feel like that's going too far, and that's almost like distasteful.
00:03:26
Speaker
if you If you take the bit that far. Because it's like, yeah, they pretended to be dead, but like then what is your mom supposed to show up and fake cry? Like, no, it just wouldn't work.
00:03:38
Speaker
no yeah It's doing too much. well it would it would You would have hoped it was far enough from the release. I don't know when Blair Witch came out. It came out, like, early in the year. at home I'm saying you need it needs to be, like, more than a year.
00:03:56
Speaker
Like, you you can't have anything like that happen in the same year. You need to let run. No, it came out in July. then so the ah the Academy Award would have been in in March of you know, for the next year. So I think that would have been fine. That would have been fine. Maybe.
00:04:17
Speaker
Yeah. and Yeah, like, people... Like, word didn't spread as fast back then. I feel like even, like, two years after it came out, people... There were still people that thought it was real. I feel like the... I feel like the bit fell apart, like, six months after. Like... I feel like... don't know. Because I've talked to people whose, like, grandmas thought it was real, and they were on, like, prayer lists at their church. They like,
00:04:42
Speaker
They were like, we're praying for those kids out in the woods. like I was at GoGoSurfer looking up all... If I wasn't at the library, I was at any place that had a computer just looking up facts about trying to find them.
00:04:55
Speaker
But yeah. That's just you too.
Oscar Red Carpet and Host Discussion
00:05:00
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, no that that's my pick. Yeah, you I think we really covered like the big ones.
00:05:07
Speaker
We can move on into the...
00:05:11
Speaker
into the show it is a disappointing that that um horror doesn't get their their their nods as much as um they deserve but what'd you guys think of well well let's get with the show um i didn't watch any of the pre-show stuff um i was busy um did you guys watch any of that was there anything like fun on the red carpet i tried to but i didn't really see much of it I saw Demi Moore's dress and she looked nice.
00:05:42
Speaker
I saw bits and pieces and i don't understand I guess because I don't know how to dress. I don't understand like the don't understand the hype of watching people walk by with like ridiculous dresses and suits and stuff. There's a lot of money put it.
00:06:07
Speaker
It's not fashion. I don't know how to dress. I don't know fashion. So, you know, I'm, I'm Adam. I am Adam Sandler. Like what Adam Sandler had on, I thought was a little bit like, I just thought he was just a little underdressed.
00:06:23
Speaker
Like I, he didn't match. Like the only thing about Adam Sandler was he didn't match. Like that's, that's it though. I mean, I had no problem with what he had on. If the hoodie matches the basketball shorts. Yeah.
00:06:34
Speaker
Yeah, is is he he had the Hawaiian shirt under it and that just doesn't match the hoodie. You can't wear a Hawaiian shirt with a hoodie at all. No, you can't. that like Like at all. Yeah, it's like, you know.
00:06:46
Speaker
But um i did see. So, again, i don't like I don't like anything to do with like red carpet stuff.
00:06:59
Speaker
We don't need to talk about it. we can just No, no, no. But I'm saying I did see some of it though. and in We did come up with a plan though as we were watching. We're trying to infiltrate the red carpet and and make our way into one of these events soon.
00:07:12
Speaker
Yeah. Like South by Southwest or whatever. South by Southwest doesn't have a red carpet. Oh, yeah. just but We can talk about stay Stay on when we're done recording. We're going give you the ideas.
00:07:25
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Yeah. But I did see the
00:07:29
Speaker
I saw the, like, I did see, like I said, bits bits and pieces of it. And I kind of, don't know, I kind of think it's like tv like TV themselves. I think it's rude because you, you know, you stop and and an actor or an actress and you want to talk to them.
00:07:49
Speaker
And I think that's fine. I think that's fine. I think you should be able to, you know. because they're there to have fun too, I'm assuming.
Oscars Entertainment: Wrestlers as Hosts
00:07:55
Speaker
But i like so with some like with some people that weren't like as big, I noticed that they would like cut them off immediately. like they were like They would talk for like a second or two, and then it's just like, okay, we got to move back on to whatever, whatever, whatever. And it's like they would cut that person off.
00:08:15
Speaker
But then if it was someone like Samuel L. Jackson, you know they'll have a whole conversation with him for like 20 minutes and I don't understand any of that, but I think that's kind of like, wow, like to pick and choose.
00:08:32
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But the one, the only thing that stood out was, um, I know that I must came up and I just, the whole time I was like, I got a feeling Julia fucking hates this girl.
00:08:44
Speaker
But they were talking about how she's presenting and he's like, oh, I can't say who she's, like, I can't say what she's presenting. And it that's when I realized, like, why the fuck not, man? Like, who cares what she's presenting? You know what i'm saying?
00:09:02
Speaker
But anyways, that's all I really saw about the the pre-show. it's It's never anything, like, noteworthy. Normally, you get I saw like Coleman Domingo's outfit and he looked great as always.
00:09:14
Speaker
think he's like one of the best dressed people the world. Which is why he's hosting the Met Gala this year, which I guess you will not be watching since you Cronin. No, I'm going watch it. I'm going to watch it, but... I mean, why would you?
00:09:29
Speaker
The Met Gala just a fundraiser. It's nothing. You just said you don't... Do you know what the Met Gala is? Yes, it's this. It's a show to fundraise for Met.
00:09:43
Speaker
It's literally like the part you don't like of what we just watched. And you're like, i don't really care about this. So I just assumed you wouldn't be interested. and yeah you're going to watch it, that's fine. Yeah, going to watch it I might even dress up.
00:09:58
Speaker
Okay, I'm having a Met Gala watch party. But Colman Domingo did have an interesting outfit on. ah just Something about him, I can't take him serious. Because ever since I saw him in Drive Away Dolls, I just can't take him serious.
00:10:15
Speaker
Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. He was in Drive Away Dolls. He was like the villain in that movie. and But anyway, he was amazing. we'll talk We'll talk about him later because he was nominated.
00:10:28
Speaker
What'd you guys think of the host? Who, Conan? Yeah. I love Conan. He's not that funny. He's mid.
00:10:40
Speaker
I love Conan. As compared for what hosting is, like... The thing is, he knows how to host, you know, so... I think he knows how to read jokes that were, like, written by comedians that, like...
00:10:57
Speaker
Yeah. i yeah like he knows like Everything was just like... The thing is, he he's you know he's had a super successful hosting career. so I mean, you know he's a writer first.
00:11:11
Speaker
Right, right, right. like yeah Just putting that out there. He's just not that funny. like i And I don't think that he was... So I don't think he was the right choice for this. I'll say that because... but like cool is? like you can you're You're never going to get anyone good. I think they shouldn't even have a host.
00:11:27
Speaker
Yeah, it just wasn't. And I don't think this is like that type of event for those types of jokes. So I feel like they just especially did not land. i do like Conan as a host. Like if we're and we're talking like just hosts, um I do like him as a host. I think he's a great host, but I don't know if i don't know if the Oscars needs a host. I think you can just have like presenters.
00:11:56
Speaker
Yeah, can just kind of have presenters, you know? i don't know if it needs a host, necessarily, because yeah you have to hold them back. Yeah, like, he can't say anything. Like, a few of his jokes were kind of funny, I thought. like He called, like, yeah I liked um some of the things he said in the monologue, but it was also, like, way too long, and it's, like, it's really dumb. Like, i don't know. Like, the whole thing, i think you should not have a host.
00:12:24
Speaker
Just have like nick offerman you can have a host but i don't understand why i feel like it should be someone related to film in some way like i feel like he was just an odd choice because he has nothing to do with what's going on but like it's not feel like it's normally jimmy kimmel who also has nothing to do with what's going on yeah i i don't like any of those guys i just feel like they don't i feel like they don't belong here I feel like literally anyone that was in the audience could have been a host, but, like, they picked the one guy that, like, didn't belong there. um Because that's the one guy willing to do it. Like, note no one wants to do it. They're there, like, I think people want to go and have fun.
00:13:08
Speaker
They could have picked Adam Sandler. He has movies. Like, he actually has a lot of movies out. Like, so. But Adam Sandler doesn't want to do it. like I know, but, like.
00:13:20
Speaker
He hates you tell us that stuff. None of those people... i don't know, man. I can see Willem Dafoe being a host. I would do it for free save them a lot of money. so like i don't I would do it for free and I would dress up how I think like the fanciest I can ever get and um stay up there for three hours. I think I can do that.
00:13:45
Speaker
It would be like Adam Sandler, but when he's in that outfit eating pickles... You know that picture I'm talking about? Yeah, you you think I can pull off just Adam Sandler and that's it? That's probably his fanciest look he's ever worn.
00:13:58
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like I would do that. i i like Ricky Gervais in the Golden Globes. i Sometimes when I'm feeling down, I put that on just to just to get you know get my spirits back up.
00:14:13
Speaker
But like I don't even know if he would be a good Oscar host. Yeah. it's the Oscars are too, The Oscars are too like professional, you know? And I don't know.
00:14:28
Speaker
I think Conan did it. I think Conan did a job he needed to do. Yeah. Like the expectations are so low for the host, like the host of the Oscars or any of these award shows that he did just enough to be okay.
00:14:42
Speaker
Cause here's the thing. Would you rather, and I'm not like, Proving a point. This is more of a curious question. Like, would you rather conan
Oscar Winner Announcements
00:14:51
Speaker
O'Brien or The Rock?
00:14:54
Speaker
Conan O'Brien. I don't know. I think The Rock. The Rock can't read. i didn't know that. Oh, man. yeah yeah more work Does he have to read? or can But how does he memorize his lines?
00:15:09
Speaker
His lines are moving. they just They just read it him and he remembers. and then he have you Have you seen a ah rock movie? No, I don't think so. I've seen Moana. Yeah, Moana.
00:15:22
Speaker
They're whispering in his ear. He's got headphones in the booth. Yeah, like it's... The dialogue The Rock does is it necessarily. He's not Dave Bautista. I would do Dave Bautista.
00:15:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. like John Cena, Dave Bautista. Really? Just some wrestlers? Yeah, i think wrestlers would be better hosts, honestly. Fuck it. Bring Roman Reigns in.
00:15:47
Speaker
Anyone who used to be a wrestler. Yeah, like literally any wrestler. They're pure entertainment. like um I just watched Dark Match. It's like shut one of the new Shudder originals. and jeric Well, it's about wrestling and Jericho's in it.
00:16:00
Speaker
And he did a good job acting No, I'm telling you. like I mean, I know. I watched some WWE. Hosts for, like, I think hosts for award shows, you you but you you should just put a wrestler in there.
00:16:15
Speaker
Yeah. Because, like, they know how to entertain. They know how to captivate a crowd. And, like, not for anything. They have no shit. Like, Vince McMahon has put them through everything. So there is nothing they can't do. it Like, when, what was it, John Cena, when he went on the stage naked?
00:16:32
Speaker
Yeah. but like People were like, this is so degrading. It's like, this is John. He is a professional wrestler. This man has been through everything. Yeah, he does not give a fuck. Like, imagine, I'm stone cold.
00:16:46
Speaker
Just shotgun and beers. Just shotgun and beers. Middle finger. You know, like, the entertainment aspect of hosting, I think a wrestler would be great.
00:17:00
Speaker
But not like corny wrestler like The Rock. Like The Rock's corny now, you know? But like yeah like old school Rock, you know, before he's juiced up. No, the answer is Dave Bautista or someone like currently wrestling.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah, but i feel like Dave Bautista is too mature now. You know? Nah, he's still, he's a good actor. He could turn it on when he wants to. Oh, no, he's a phenomenal, I think, shockingly, he's a phenomenal actor, but you you need a John Cena, I think. You know what saying? Like, you need someone who's still a little bit goofy.
00:17:37
Speaker
I mean, yeah, John Cena's a Ricky Stadiki. Yeah, like, you get a John Cena type where he's still some, like, he'll say some things in interviews where it's, like, kind of cringy how he's, like,
00:17:52
Speaker
trying to be motivational, but then he does, you know, then he plays like Ricky Stenicki and stuff like that. Like, but I think Johnny Chizrop.
00:18:02
Speaker
Yeah. he He would fit well. um I might like him would fit well.
00:18:08
Speaker
Wait, what a, right, let's get down so to some of the winners. um We want to start like at the bottom of the top.
00:18:19
Speaker
a Does it matter? Nah, fuck you. No, so let's do, we'll go top. um I mean, whatever.
00:18:31
Speaker
Let's start with best actor. um and Like who we will go over. yeah who Who did we want to win or who did we think win? Like, did they get the right actor?
00:18:43
Speaker
um best' I'll give the category and the winner. Actually, wait, who has the list open? So don't have the list open. I do. all right, so Julia, like we'll go down the list of of most of the major ones and we'll talk about um like you give the category and who won and then we'll talk about you know like did we think they were it was justified.
00:19:13
Speaker
Okay, so i might am I reading all the nominations or just who won? but We'll do just who won and then if we feel that it wasn't worthwhile. Like if we think someone else should have won, we'll say it.
00:19:25
Speaker
Okay. Actor in a leading role was Adrian Brody in The Brutalist. What are your thoughts? I didn't see it, but I'm not surprised.
00:19:36
Speaker
i I saw it. I'm not surprised. I thought Coleman Domingo and Sing Sing was a lot better, but I am not surprised they chose Adrian Brody. um The film was itself was very uh i guess like oscar or it was like oscar coded yeah that's true i did not see sing sing but i think coleman domingo is probably the better actor i would just vote for adrian brody only because i did see the brutalists and i didn't see a lot of the other films but that's that's fair i will say so like i worry because like
00:20:16
Speaker
Sing Sing is a great movie. It's going to be streaming soon on Max. And I think like a lot of people won't see it um because like it doesn't have like the awards to it. And it will kind of go to the wayside. And that sucks because it is a great movie. So if you're listening, Sing Sing is probably out on Max by the time this gets out.
00:20:36
Speaker
So check it out. Okay. Actor in a supporting role was Kiernan Culkin in A Real Pain. i thought he would win. I'm a big fan of Kiernan Culkin, so I'm not mad about it.
00:20:52
Speaker
There's probably... I think there's better films on this list, but I'm a fan of him as an actor, so... Who who else was in supporting? um The guy from Menorah, um Edward Norris. Oh, he was good.
00:21:05
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Guy Pearce in The Brutalist, which I thought Guy Pearce was really good as that character. And then Jeremy Strong in The Apprentice. Yeah, that... that um I love Guy Pearce in general, but yeah, I don't think any of them would have.
00:21:20
Speaker
Like, I'm not shocked at this that he won. i thought edward like I thought Edward Norton had the best performance. um By far, Kieran Culkin had the most screen time.
00:21:32
Speaker
So I can see why. He did good, too. Honestly, I think everyone was deserving to win. That's a very... Do you think Kiernan Culkin gets a fourth kid out of this?
00:21:46
Speaker
I hope not. We don't need any more kids on this face of the earth. I mean, long as we're paying for them. Yeah, you're right. Whatever. If it makes them happy, I don't give a shit. If they're going to be a supportive family, go for it Do you guys think it would have been funny if they intentionally like said Macaulay?
00:22:05
Speaker
Um, no. Damn. i I would have loved it if they gave it to Macaulay.
00:22:15
Speaker
Sorry.
00:22:18
Speaker
Sometimes you're such a badass, but you're so nice about it. No, I just, I feel like Macaulay Culkin, he's probably the most famous sibling, but it's like, we get it. Home alone, like, whatever.
00:22:35
Speaker
Like, let Kieran have his minute, because he probably got overshadowed his whole entire life. Let him have Yeah, yeah. you Yeah, let him keep getting overshadowed.
00:22:48
Speaker
no like No, can you imagine, just imagine that your brother is Kevin from Home Alone? It would be, but if they said Macaulay, would have been just like the Steve Harvey, um, and magist universe.
00:23:03
Speaker
Imagine you're like a stupid famous actor. And when you're out in public with your family, people still run up to your brother and say, Oh my God, Kevin. Yeah.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah. i mean, he said it too. He's like, I've been, I've been acting for like 30 years and he never said like an Oscar before.
Focus on Culkin Family Achievements
00:23:25
Speaker
And like people still will only think of Macaulay.
00:23:29
Speaker
like He's more famous than Rory Culkin, but like that's all he has. i'm genuinely excited that he won, though, because did not know they were related until one day was like, wow. really?
00:23:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I didn't. For some reason, I didn't know one day. it I'm not going to say when this day was, but one day i was like, is there more Culkins in this world or are these two guys related? And then I looked it up and i was like, you are such a fucking idiot.
00:24:02
Speaker
They just happen to look the same and have the same last name. The crazy part is that they have two other brothers. That's what I'm saying. like There's five of them. Just only three are famous.
00:24:18
Speaker
It's like the Manning family. Imagine being Rory Culkin and being the third most famous Culkin. I but he was in that scream movie. So, but like, I wish that they treat. So there's the Manning family with Peyton and Eli and they like baby, the older brother Cooper.
00:24:39
Speaker
They're like, yeah, he, he was such a great athlete. And like they, and he, you know, he never turned pro and they were like, he was the best. So like, they like do this like fake show where they kind of lie about how their older brother, who's significantly less successful,
00:24:55
Speaker
um was like a ah good athlete back in the day. And I hope that the Colkins do that, like Macaulay and Kiernan and Rory are like to the other ones. they like, yeah, they were good actors too.
00:25:08
Speaker
I'm also not going to admit when this was, but I did not know that Rory Colkin in Scream 4 was their brother.
00:25:21
Speaker
I'm not going to tell you when I found that out, but I did not know. Probably just right now. Yeah. Don't you fucking do it. Yeah, it was right now. We know it was right now.
00:25:34
Speaker
Don't you fucking do it.
00:25:38
Speaker
i' am not i'm not I'm not. Did you know that Kieran Culkin is the cousin that like pisses the bed in Home Alone? Yes. Isn't the dorky kid with glasses? Yeah.
00:25:52
Speaker
yeah Yeah, but he's like known for like pissing the bed. They're like, oh, Kevin, you gotta share a bed with him. and yeah yeah like he He's the bed. He's always drinking soda. didn't know that was his brother. i was just like, oh, man, white people really all do look the same. Let's move on to the ne next category.
00:26:11
Speaker
Alright, what's the next? Let's see. Actress in a leading role, Mikey Madison from Anora. I think that's fair. That's fair. She was amazing.
00:26:23
Speaker
I'm not going to argue.
00:26:26
Speaker
i want to say dey Moore, but like her acting, like I feel like you really got to think about the performance and Mikey Madison probably gave ah stronger performance. She probably did more. Yeah.
00:26:44
Speaker
yeah not yeah i mean, we wanted we wanted Demi to win, but To be fair, I mean, kind of... But wait, she won a Golden Globe, didn't she?
00:26:56
Speaker
yeah my shoes Yeah. And the SAG. Yeah. Interesting. She won everything leading up to this. Yeah, that's interesting. I always wonder how that works, because it seems like you never win... All of them.
00:27:12
Speaker
Yeah, you just can't win all of them. You can't win them all. That's what you say. I was pulling for Demi... I would have been fine with Fernanda Torres.
00:27:24
Speaker
So, but Mikey, it was also great too. so Not mad that she won. I mean, I still haven't seen Anora, but... Oh, it's great. Before I even knew, like before any of us knew was an Oscar, you know, nominated movie, I really wanted to see it.
00:27:43
Speaker
But like I said, like a dumbass... Well, don't remember when Anora came out, but if It came and i and came out in either September or October. Okay, so like a dumbass I had already took, I had already take like ah unsubscribed from A-list.
00:28:03
Speaker
So I didn't get to see it. Because I went, I remember leaving the theater and I, like the first thing I thought was like, oh man, like, and this was, i think this was before the substance, whenever it was like,
00:28:17
Speaker
I just remember thinking, like, Mikey Madison's going to win the um the the Oscar for Best Support. That was, like, my feeling leaving the theater. um so that feeling rang true. That's fair.
00:28:32
Speaker
What's next? Actress in a supporting role was Zoe Saldana. a I like her. I love her. Yeah, but I feel like she deserves jail time for being in Emilia Perez. so
00:28:51
Speaker
Earlier, Julia was like, she's she should win the electric chair before she got like before she won. and then she won. and it's like, that's crazy that she won like both awards back to the end.
00:29:07
Speaker
Like the electric chair ward and... Like who who watched that film and was like, damn, she's really doing something. So I saw... that She tore that role up. Did you you see the whole movie of Amelia Perez? Yeah.
00:29:22
Speaker
The whole thing? Okay. Yeah, unfortunately. I saw the whole movie of Amelia Perez. And at no point that I think anybody in that movie...
00:29:36
Speaker
And I love Zoe Zaldana. I don't think anyone in that movie deserved any. The movie was so hard to watch. And I was telling Julia earlier, I wasn't even like, I wasn't even offended by how offensive the movie was.
00:29:52
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i I think I was just, it was just so hard to watch. Because I know when Julia first brought up Emilia Perez to me,
00:30:03
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She showed me, like, she was telling me about
Zoe Saldana's Controversial Win
00:30:05
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the movie. She showed me clips of it and immediately had to tell me, by the way, this is not a comedy. This is a, like, legit movie.
00:30:18
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And I just remember just watch everything I saw from then on out. There's no fucking way this is a real movie. Like, I send you guys the parody, right?
00:30:30
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the um the parody And that was the same as Amelia Perez. Like, it's it's crazy that this movie, it I say the same thing I said when I saw a Zone of Interest, which I'm not here to bash that movie anymore. But, like, someone saw Amelia Perez and was like, yup, Oscars.
00:30:54
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And somehow convinced, like, a bunch of other people to be like, yup, Oscars. But, like, it's ah she was the best part of Amelia Perez. Like, hands down. Zoe Saldana was, and they gave her... She was in it enough that I can see it. And, I mean, I like her, so I'm not mad at the i mean it award.
00:31:16
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It feels like we're standing in the coldest spot in hell. Like, to say she's the best person in that movie. I'm not gonna lie.
00:31:27
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I'm happy for her, the person. like yeah like I'm really happy for her, the person, because I do genuinely like her movies. The way she started crying just pissed me off.
00:31:38
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like I just got angry. You got angry because the person, she just had the biggest moment of her life. And she's worked very hard. but like She's worked very hard to get to that point.
00:31:51
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And she gets a big role. And now she gets her award. So, like, hopefully bigger and better things come from it.
00:32:02
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And like, no one has to like talk about Amelia Perez again. Cause that, this is it. Like, I'm never going to watch it again. I don't like the movie, but she definitely isn't like, i don't think Zoe Saldana is a bad person for being in the movie.
00:32:16
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A lot of people had to take the role cause they needed the money. She don't need the money though, man. She's, she's in $2 billion franchises.
00:32:28
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she just did it out of like pure evilness and spite. don't know why she did it. I'm happy for her. The person. um I, I don't know if she should have one for this role, but like, I also don't care.
00:32:47
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yeah Like I said, I like, I like her, the person. um, And I liked that she at no point, like the moment, the minute, the second that they were just like, oh yeah, this controversy is starting to brew up.
00:33:07
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She was like, I want no fucking parts of it, which that's probably why she won. Cause I feel like she had defended her like a little bit, people would have been like, nah, man. But again, yeah I'm happy for her, the person.
00:33:21
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Exactly. Yeah. I wish it would have been a different role because I genuinely watched this movie with every intention of like actually watching it. And I'm like, there's no way.
00:33:35
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But there was and and it happened. So. Yeah. I mean, I think Marvel quality should have won it, but she wasn't even nominated. So. Yeah. That's also a
00:33:47
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That's also a crazy thing. Yeah. All right.
Animated Feature 'Flow' Wins Oscar
00:33:52
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Animated feature film was Flow. Perfect film, no notes. I started watching it and I didn't get to finish it, but I'm not surprised that won.
00:34:04
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I've seen all the... All the animated nominations are pretty solid this year. ah feel like Except for Inside Out 2. I liked Inside Out 2. It's probably my the probably least good out of them all.
00:34:17
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Yeah, like I agree. And feel like... But I think it's a good movie. Like I recommend it to people. I really like the first Inside Out. The second one probably wasn't as good, but i still I feel like it's solid. Maybe it doesn't deserve to be here, but it's not bad.
00:34:32
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i still think you should show Inside Out too to like high school students, like middle school and high school students as like a health film. Like a movie to watch during health or something. Like, I feel like that should be a movie.
00:34:44
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Instead of giving them that, like, fake baby. Yeah. Like, if you showed me Inside Out 2 at 12 years old versus giving me a fake baby for a week, I would have probably been a better person.
00:34:57
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Probably. But instead, at 12 years old, gave me a fake baby that I had to watch for a whole week. But it's like clearly, I think, the the worst of the... like It is a good film and whatever.
00:35:08
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We've talked about We have an episode on it. But like to me, it was like clearly the ah distant end to the ones. like Even Wallace and Gromit was really good.
00:35:20
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i would have been fine with that winning. But Flo, I remember seeing it in theaters and the amount of people that were like just crying and had such a a visceral emotional response to it and enjoyed the film. It was awesome.
00:35:33
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You guys gave me so much shit for not knowing what Wallace and Gromit was. Uncultured. All Best animated short film was In the Shadow of the Cypress.
00:35:45
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Thoughts?
00:35:47
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Deserved it. It was interesting, though, that that one won, I think. Yeah. I wanted Magic Candy. I'm not surprised it won because it was like more artsy than the other ones.
00:36:01
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it It was more Oscar-y than the other ones, but i i think they were better. and But like this one, it it told this the story well, and like it is from Iran, so like it's the idea that them winning is crazy.
00:36:21
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Well, that that that too, but I'm not surprised it won. This one was more Oscar-y. Like this one was made with the intentions of we're going to submit it for the Oscars. Like it was made for that particular reason.
00:36:36
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The other ones were just like very good short. The thing is this year, the shorts were amazing. So yeah, I'm, I, I'm not surprised at one. I just thought it was interesting. Cause I feel like it was made specifically for the Oscars. I feel like versus like the other ones, which I thought may have been like a little bit better.
00:36:56
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um And I feel so weird saying this, so please be gentle with me. But, like, the movie Yuck was about... And you didn't see it, Julia, so you might be you you might actually not.
00:37:13
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ah But the movie Yuck, I kind of like that one the best. But the movie... I feel so, like, weird about saying that because the movie Yuck was about, like...
00:37:25
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a bunch of like eight year old like running around and watching people kiss and like people's lips glow when they're like, when they want to like give someone a kiss that it glows.
00:37:38
Speaker
And they're just like, Oh, that's this yuck, you know, basically like, yo, that's gross. And, And it's like there's there's like the one – there's like the two in a group that you can kind of tell that they, you know, like each other. And some point they, like, try to kiss. They get laughed at and stuff. And I don't know why. I feel gross because it's like little kids. So I feel gross saying that.
00:38:00
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But it was well done. it was a cute – like – But the thing is, like it was like a great – the thing is, it was a great story from start to finish. And not just was it like a great – you know, 20, 25, whatever minute film, but it covered everything. You know, it had, it was funny. It reminded you of a kid.
00:38:23
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The thing is every emotion it was trying to give you, it gave you, but also the, what was it called, Pat? The the magic candies? Magic candies. Like that, that to me, like I wanted that to win because I thought the story you told was, was so complete and it was so like, like the, you, like the same, same with the other,
00:38:43
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It hit the emotional highs and lows so powerfully in such a short period of time. The animation was clean. It was nice. And it was awesome. And like, yeah, I think as it deserved to be nominated.
00:38:57
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But I do think they were like, man, we can't let this movie about a bunch of kids kissing. um Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, I feel so like gross saying that I kind of like that one the most. But there was something about that movie that just, it, that and magic candies. I wouldn't have been mad if either, the thing is either one of these three, I'm not mad that they won.
00:39:22
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Yeah. Either one of these three, I think we're perfect. The one about the bald, the bald brothers. I'm glad that didn't. i Yeah. That one was the low point. Yeah. This year though, all of the shorts documentary um feature, the film and the animated were all amazing. So,
00:39:41
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Way to go. All
00:39:46
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right, what's next?
Cinematography Oscar for 'The Brutalist'
00:39:48
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Cinematography was the brutalist. What do you think? I know asked you earlier. I think that's fair. I wanted Nosferatu to win just because I wanted, that's probably my favorite film of this year overall, but I feel like the brutalist is very fair. The cinematography in Nosferatu was gorgeous.
00:40:11
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But I haven't seen The Brutalist, so know. that Yeah, that was also beautiful. like The Brutalist was so beautiful. that's the thing. I don't know because I didn't see that. I think The Brutalist, I mean, I think Nosferatu edges The Brutalist out because I have an extreme bias.
00:40:25
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But The Brutalist is deserving. I'm not like mad that it won. um Also, shout out to Doylestown. Yeah. The movie takes place, which is next next to Philly.
00:40:39
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costume design was wicked which like i'm not surprised again i wanted to throw to but like wicked was probably gonna win because they i hate when like my pet peeve is that when movies win for like costume or makeup when they don't have impactful costumes or makeup so i feel like it either has to be wicked or nosferatu like it has to but i'm i'm not wicked one like they were gonna with the costumes I mean this with absolutely no disrespect to the people who did the costuming for Conclave.
00:41:14
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I looked up the guy, the people who did it, and they have such a good like history, and they're obviously talented, but anyone could have costumed that. I could just go to any church and steal all their robes. like it It wasn't that hard.
00:41:28
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Yeah, and I feel like for that, you can't be really creative with that. You want to be historically accurate, it so there's no... Yeah. There's no room for error. Yeah, and even like in a movie like Nosferatu, they're being historically accurate, but you're doing it to fit to the character. You're using maybe different colors and and shapes and things to show the character. In Conclave, you don't have any of that. It is just straight up the uniform. They should have. Yeah, which, to be fair, people mess up that all the time, so we're like good for Conclave for not messing it up.
00:42:03
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Points for accuracy, but not points for accuracy. Yeah, yeah. What you guys think of the way they presented that award where they had the actors come out and they were talking about um like like having the actors present?
00:42:19
Speaker
What did you guys think of that? Because that was a new thing.
00:42:24
Speaker
I'm okay with it. I think it i think it makes sense. i i I don't really know why they don't do that Yeah. Oh, I agree. Well, they had like all five standing up there.
00:42:36
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, man I'm not mad at that either. i think that um i think that's cool, man. You get to celebrate with the guy who... Yeah, like you get to celebrate, but then you can kind of like peek and be like, oh, this person is not happy they lost. you know The only reason I don't like it is I feel like the actors can kind of like upstage other people who worked on the film because they tend to be like the most famous people.
00:43:07
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Like, there's recognizable people associated with it. So I feel like you really want to give that stage time to, like, the costume designer, to whoever it is that won the award.
00:43:18
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You don't want them to be upstaged by someone like Ariana Grande or something or someone, like, you know, I feel like it takes away from... wouldn't have minded, like, the costume designers being in costume.
00:43:33
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You know, like the guy the guy who designs the costume wears it. Yeah. Why not? It's like some old lady is dressed up as. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. we Like, why not? You know what saying? Like, that would be fucking cool. You know, be very silly. I would love it.
00:43:49
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I mean, the the thing is, it's entertainment at the end of the day. And, you know, that's what this show should be about. Entertainment. Yeah. All right. What's next on
Sean Baker's Directing Win for 'Anora'
00:43:59
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this list? All right. Best director was Anora.
00:44:02
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oh I'm not surprised. Yeah, that's fair, I think. I also, I like, like, his speech he gave for this was really great. um And i think, like, he became, like, the darling of the night. So I'm happy for Sean Baker. Excited for what's next.
00:44:19
Speaker
any one that Anyone that, like, publicly shits on, like, streaming and, like, promotes, like, going to the theater regardless of like how cheesy sometimes it can, I'm not saying this was cheesy, but like, the despite how cheesy it can be, i feel like you have to respect them because genuinely the theater is the probably the best experience you can have with a movie.
00:44:48
Speaker
And there's, you can't beat the experience you get in the theater. Now, now Granted, if you're going to Voorhees AMC, I mean, that fucking experience kind of sucks.
00:45:02
Speaker
But a good experience in a theater, like when we saw Bad Boys Thursday night, um like Thursday opening night when we went to go see Bad Boys in Philly.
00:45:17
Speaker
crazy, crazy experience. Like being in a theater. Nothing beats No, no. Like just being in a theater. Like when me and Julia went to the Star Wars marathon and Literally every fucking movie people are like reciting the lines and they're clapping. And like when we went to go, the the thing is we went to go see the shorts and there was a lady behind us and her boyfriend or whatever he was fucking like uncontrollably sobbing from how good it was you know I'm saying? Like you can't beat that.
00:45:55
Speaker
like that that Like a theater experience, you can't beat a theater experience. fucking two kids shit themselves, you know? like Yeah. if i Right now, if I shit myself at Julia's house, i wouldry I don't know what I would do. like Just imagine if right now I'm just like, I gotta go out and just shit myself on your couch.
00:46:14
Speaker
What is this up to do? I feel like we're No, no, no. we're Don't do this. Julia has a man with us. No, no, no, what I'm saying is like, you can only get these experiences in the theater, you know what saying?
00:46:32
Speaker
Like, these crazy things. Okay, so like you're saying, because it has we've talked about this a lot, but we have been in a theater several times at this point where someone did shit themselves.
00:46:44
Speaker
You're saying that would never, ever happen if you're streaming a movie at home on Netflix. i i'll i'll never I'll never be alone in my living room watching Hulu and a little kid gets up and he's like, Mom, Mom, I just pooped.
00:46:57
Speaker
No, no. You're right, you're right, that would never happen. I think the point is me. but but what what the the the police try The real point I'm trying to make, though, is like when you go to the theater, it's like you don't know what can happen. You can fucking.
00:47:17
Speaker
Good or bad. And that's part the adventure. Maybe you maybe you get to the theater. Maybe your chair is sticky. That's what I'm saying. You don't know what it is. Maybe it's cherry coke. Maybe it's not. We went we saw Zone of Interest.
00:47:31
Speaker
we sat through Sona Ventures for about maybe 80% of the movie until Julia turned and was like, is that the fan? Like when the fan was going and, and you know i'm saying? Like, but these things, like these little things are like the experience of the theater. You know what saying?
00:47:49
Speaker
Bad experiences, good experiences, people clapping, ah people reciting lines, people singing, you know, like you can't beat that. So anybody that, but He didn't really shit on streaming, but like anybody that's just like, get you know, do not let cinema die. Like, don't let theaters die.
00:48:08
Speaker
um And I thought it was fascinating. He was saying it to a room full of people who probably like do not ever go to the movie theater. Because why was it? Oh, yeah. I'm sure none of them go to the theater.
00:48:20
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yeah Some of them have to. Probably the parents. Yeah, so. Sorry. Best documentary feature film was no other land. I saw it and it's, it's the only one of the documentaries that I saw.
00:48:37
Speaker
So I'm glad it won. I'm, I do want to see, um, the playlist to a coup. And there's, there's a few others that I want to see, but this was a phenomenal documentary.
00:48:52
Speaker
and don't think you can watch it and make any arguments. for like Israel. I'll leave it at that. Okay. Um, best documentary short film was the only girl in the orchestra, man. Fuck that movie.
00:49:10
Speaker
Um, it is good. It's available on Netflix. It's free to watch. I think people should watch it, but like from all the other documentary shorts were so much better.
00:49:22
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um instruments of a beating heart is free to watch. It's on YouTube. It's about like a Japanese children's orchestra. It's like super heartfelt. And that's the one I wanted to win.
00:49:33
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um Incident is like a retelling of a, they take security footage and body cam footage of the cops um shooting an innocent guy in Chicago. And like that had such visceral responses in the crowd that I thought that was going to win.
00:49:54
Speaker
But they they went with the fucking only girl in the orchestra, which it's all right. All right. Best editing was Anora. I feel like that's fair. That was a good that's fair good movie. so you so it's it's It's just shocking how much they won.
00:50:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And again, I'm not mad about it. Yeah. All right. Best international feature film was I'm Still Here. I've been wanting to watch that. it's um I'm going to see it this week.
00:50:29
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i The first time Brazil ever won best one best international film, I think. Good for Brazil. Yeah.
00:50:41
Speaker
Alright, best makeup and hairstyling was The Substance. Good. Yeah, I feel like that... Yeah. it This is a monumental win, though, for body horror.
00:50:53
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Like... Because like if you look at it, a body horror film should win every time they do makeup and hairstyling if it's decent. Oh, I agree. Because sometimes like a basic-ass drama will win when like no one's wearing makeup.
00:51:08
Speaker
And this, they they were like making... like This is a movie where they were covered in blood. like they They did such a good job of making how disgusting the creature looked.
00:51:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Alright, best original score was The Brutalist. Crazy Challengers wasn't on there. Crazy. yeah He showed me that I did not... I saw Challengers. I didn't really pay attention because I didn't care for it. He pulled up the soundtrack for me and she proceeded to play... She fucking loved it.
00:51:40
Speaker
he proceeded to play like the worst shit I've it. it It's like, and I imagine it's like the music that plays inside a 13 year old boy's head when they get like mozzarella sticks. She said this, she said, this is, she said, bet you this is the song you hear when something good happens. to
00:52:00
Speaker
I don't understand how you can hate it. It's like, this is probably what pops into your head when you walk into Apple. Yeah. Yeah. crazy that song when you walk into Applebee's and you find out it's half price apps cause it's after 9 crazy that that fucking that that did not win I cannot wrap down on it but it is what it is man and then unfortunately Amelia Perez won for best original song insane that is insane crazy
00:52:38
Speaker
They all belong in... Wait, who else was... Who else was nominated for that? Um, The Journey... Oh. From Triple... From the Six, Triple Eight. Oh, goddammit, that's right. That's... Um, Like a Bird from Sing Sing.
00:52:54
Speaker
ah different song from Emilio Perez. And then... Something from the Elton John movie. Man. Six, Triple Eight should have won. Um...
00:53:06
Speaker
that that no yeah i I saw that. That was awesome. Her did the music and she she did a phenomenal job. She was robbed. um I love her.
00:53:18
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so yeah um right and then Best picture was Anora. i wanted assumptions.
Indie Film 'Anora' Wins Best Picture
00:53:25
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but yeah Not mad about it, there but there was some other good stuff. Crazy if that that won and we couldn't see it.
00:53:35
Speaker
How could, what do you mean? it cut off when they were like, i was going to say like the movie, I was like, Oh no, no, no, no. Cause you texted it and I saw and I was so pissed. Cause i was like, I wanted to find out like during this so you can get my reaction.
00:53:52
Speaker
But I looked at the text when you said who won. Cause it cut it off and you know, I'm a man, so i have to fix every problem. And I thought, I thought I had a solution.
00:54:03
Speaker
but I didn't have the solution. and then i saw the text and I was just like, it was never that serious. Am I even a man? yeah You know, man, there were so many good best pictures.
00:54:18
Speaker
um ah really liked Enora. So I'm happy that it won. This is like a win for indie film. know. And I know it wouldn't have one. I knew it wasn't going to win.
00:54:30
Speaker
I was happy that Dune got nominated again. i was really happy about it. And I know you didn't see it, Julia, but Dune is... Dune... The aesthetics of Dune 2 blow... mean, like, explode beyond what Avatar was.
00:54:56
Speaker
Like, everybody praises Avatar for just how beautiful of a movie, which it was. It is a beautiful movie, like a beautiful visual, you know? Something about Doom II, which it did win Best Sound. um Yeah, I'm happy that it won Best Sound.
00:55:14
Speaker
It makes sense because, again, for anyone that's listening, I personally dying... dying I went to go see Dune in, what was Dolby or Prime?
00:55:30
Speaker
We saw it in Dolby. was awesome. Sickness went away. The sickness went away. It was so loud in that theater. My sickness just went away. It cleared your sinuses? Yeah.
00:55:40
Speaker
I'm so serious. I'm so serious. And God, was such a beautiful movie. The black and white in the film. like There was parts where it's... The the Austin...
00:55:55
Speaker
butler and that god why did he not get nominated you know what i'm saying like they need to put like best villain best bad guy the oscars because his role phenomenal crazy he wasn't even talked about but i was glad that it got i knew it wasn't gonna win but i was so happy it got nominated because i'm like this fucking movie was awesome But I did keep reading that a lot of the voters were like, oh, we didn't even see Dune.
00:56:31
Speaker
Which is so lame because Dune 2 was amazing. It was a big hit. Like, we saw it in a... I can't imagine it being, like, your literal job. Like, I feel like shit anytime i don't watch a film.
00:56:45
Speaker
But to be one of, like, the literal, actual voters, like, you are the guy... And you didn't watch the fucking film that was nominated? like You didn't sit at your house and pop it on. what I'm saying? on Max.
00:56:58
Speaker
It's been on Max. Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? There was like three or four voters that were apparently never saw a Dune. They were like, oh, we didn't even watch the movie. But that's neither here nor here. So lame.
00:57:14
Speaker
I'm happy that Anora won because it's an indie film. And like I was saying, like, and I'm worried, like, because Nickel Boys is phenomenal and and Sing Sing is phenomenal and these movies are great.
00:57:25
Speaker
And I feel like because they didn't get any awards and think the hype has significantly died down and soon they will become available on streaming because now they're they're not.
00:57:37
Speaker
The people aren't just going to watch them. And, like, I think they deserve, like, they're solid pieces of art. And for people who like movies should give it a shot and watch them. And I hope ah people watch Enora when it becomes available because it was awesome.
00:57:52
Speaker
Coleman Domingo being nominated two years in a row and not winning, it kind of makes me think like, i don't know, man. like I mean, I knew he wasn't going to win over... um but who won? who knows Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, yeah. That fucking guy.
00:58:13
Speaker
I knew he wasn't going to win over him, you know, because... you just kind of already knew he was going to win, but don't know. kind of, it's kind of fascinating how like this stuff works.
00:58:26
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And, and I know that you go ahead, go ahead. bad. Last week, Coleman Domingo was on a, ah like, he was like being interviewed and it was with someone else who he's from Philly and he was wearing his Eagle Superbowl shirt.
00:58:43
Speaker
And, I just thought that was really cool. So like I was pulling for him because he's a great actor, but also birds. I know he was from Philly. That's cool. Yeah. and know this is a I know we didn't mention this, but the live action shorts, I think this year outside of the one, there was one that was horrible. God, it was like the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.
00:59:08
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um It was the one that um the the United States made. Oh, Aileen. Aileen. Oh, my God. that but i I texted people that if that won, I was going to jump out a window.
00:59:23
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But the other four were phenomenal. I mean, I guess you can put the man who. No, that was good. No, no, no. I'm saying that one you can put.
00:59:37
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in the same category as Aline. And we talked about this, you and me, Pat. Yeah. but That one did it so much better. And I feel like they were the same exact story, but it was just like, so it was intriguing.
00:59:54
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It's like acting was so good. You wanted to know what happened next, you know? and In Aline, I was, at some point, I'm like, when is this going to end? Yeah. like You kind of wanted, like, I was like, I'm kind of glad Ice kind of got this dude, you know, because... It's about to be done, you know? Like, I was like, whew.
01:00:17
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Yeah. ah Good. they They got him. They're deporting him now. Yeah, yeah. Like, all this movie's done. Good, you know? But, like, Okay, which one won? The robot won.
01:00:31
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and like we were when we were talking, we were both like, because I was like, man, I really like Anuja and I hope that wins, but I wouldn't be mad if anything else won besides Aileen. And we were both like, it would be cool if the robot won, but there's no way.
01:00:45
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ah Yeah, that Does that mean Companion's going to win next year? ah It might, man. It might, because... When I tell you, me and Pat walked out and literally said the same thing. There's no fucking way ah that that the robot one was going to win.
01:01:01
Speaker
It's crazy that it won. I'm like, this is... I don't know how it won. Because Anuju... Anuju, right? as I'm not looking at anything front Okay. Yeah. That one... That one hit home for me.
01:01:14
Speaker
Because it's... It was beautiful. That one was about... um two sisters who lost their mom and like the, I didn't lose my mom, but the, but the older sister was like basically sacrificing everything for her younger sister.
01:01:32
Speaker
And like that one i thought was really good just because it hit home. Cause that's how like my sister was with me. But, but it was like amazing. But at the end,
01:01:44
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the the the the the The younger sister, the actress, the movie was about, um was it what what was it, Pat, like a group home?
01:01:55
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Yeah. It's a group home slash school. Yeah, it's like a group home slash school of like kids who, um I forget, God, and I feel bad.
01:02:06
Speaker
Because I forget like the full details of it, but it was like a student from that school that they were like, come on, we want you to be ah in this movie. So like at the end, they show you like the class watching the film, and they're like laughing at certain things she's saying. and That was great.
01:02:25
Speaker
and then yeah I wanted that to win so bad because of that. But like the Ranger, oh my God. I'm so happy it's dark in the theater because... yeah I was, God, yeah I look like, I think, I don't remember if it was Julie I told or who I told, but watching that, I felt like fucking Olga Pataki when she was, when she got dumped and was like crying in Hey Arnold.
01:02:51
Speaker
It was, God, it was so hard. It was so hard to go through that movie without like, like if if you are heartless, like if you're a heartless person,
01:03:02
Speaker
and don't care about anything you're the worst shittiest person in the world I promise you if you saw that movie you would have feelings like you would have feelings it was so good i don't know how it didn't win I guess I don't know um but god that one was so good and but the robot won one won so good for it though good for what was the what's the other one What was the, can you?
01:03:35
Speaker
The other what? The live action short. sure Short nominees? Yeah, it was Aileen, the man who said too much or something.
01:03:47
Speaker
um The Last Ranger, I'm Not a Robot. And what was the fifth one? I don't know. i I don't even know where you got to that. like That's not even the category we're on.
01:04:00
Speaker
So I don't know. come on Hold on, I got you. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm i'm totally lost because you're way, way off of list. I'm so sorry. So I don't know what's I'm just waiting for you to get back to the list.
01:04:13
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I'm sorry. I'm done.
01:04:16
Speaker
I jumped the gun. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. No, I just... i We're on production design and I... there's Okay. Wicked won best production design.
01:04:28
Speaker
No one's surprised. it We're all happy for it. Should have Nosferatu, could have been The Brutalist, maybe Dune 2, maybe Conclave. Those are all the nominees, but Lickin Best Production Design.
01:04:45
Speaker
Okay, now live action short film was not a robot. I don't know how we got here, but... I jumped, and I'm so sorry. i I don't know what happened, because I have a list. I don't know.
01:04:57
Speaker
list of It's funny because here here are the five and we mentioned all five. So it makes this even funnier. ah Oh, yeah. I don't know we doesn't know what happened. I like spaced out because you went on a tangent and I was like, I'll just wait till he pauses for me to read the next category. But I don't.
01:05:15
Speaker
But you're not even looking at the list. So how did you get the winner? And like, why did you start? But rika yeah you you named all five. Did I?
01:05:26
Speaker
Okay. It's Aileen. anyway It's Aileen, Anuja, I Am Not a Robot, The Last Ranger, and The Man Who Could Not Remain Silent.
01:05:37
Speaker
and You called The Man Who Talked Too Much, which is the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. um It's been a long day. I guess when it's a long day, it just makes you talk constantly and not be able to stop.
01:05:52
Speaker
I never had that happen, but I guess... Wait, hold on. Which one won production design? Wicked. Wicked. Good. Good. Good. Wicked did deserve it.
01:06:02
Speaker
All right. Best sound was Dune Part 2. They had the best sounds. Yeah. yeah. Definitely. They do be making sounds.
01:06:15
Speaker
I've seen Dune, but I don't really... don't even know what it sounds like. Yeah, I don't remember. I couldn't get into it. i didn't pay to I bet that worm is loud as fuck, though. Them sandworms, do they, like, scream?
01:06:27
Speaker
It doesn't make any noise, but, like, it's... It makes, likes like, a screech? I feel like they would scream. I feel like they would scream. Or, like, you know, like, the Alaskan bullworm from SpongeBob? Doesn't that scream?
01:06:41
Speaker
Yes. feel like it's that. I don't think the worm makes noise. It just... I gotta rewatch It would though. I feel like when you look at it though, doesn't it look like it would scream?
01:06:52
Speaker
Every time it comes up from under the ground, I feel like it just makes like a like a screech. Yeah. um Also best visual effects, Dune Part 2. you know every Almost every one of them in that category would have been fine. but This is the category that Alien Romulus was also nominated for. and um and ah Planet Apes.
01:07:17
Speaker
Oh yeah, that movie was so... um And Planet of the Apes... The visual effects were great, but that movie was so fucking bad. yeah i know, that's why it couldn't have won.
01:07:28
Speaker
Like, it's just such a bad movie. Yeah, but those apes look so real. Right, but it was like... i just didn't care about them. That was the thing. it's like i was like, okay, it's a monkey.
01:07:40
Speaker
Why do I care? That is fair. i mean, that's that's... That's so fair. yeah best Best adapted screenplay was Conclave.
01:07:53
Speaker
Yeah, I can say that. Conclave was a good movie. i i h you know didn't want to be nominated for some things, but it was very good, very well done. and this screen like Everything was clean with it. It's a fun watch.
01:08:06
Speaker
Good for it. I mentioned this last year, but I feel like what they qualify as adapted is insane to me. like Oh yeah, I also don't understand what is... Like anything, like you would think it's like adapted from a book, adapted from something else. No, like if it's based on a true story, they call it adapted, but I don't know.
01:08:30
Speaker
But then also there's like best original films that are like based on a true story. And for some reason they're not considered, I don't know, but. it's um so crazy Best original screenplay was a Nora.
01:08:44
Speaker
Good Sean Baker. he wrote, directed, and edited it. That was the last category. Wasn't Sean Baker the one who I was like, on like the third award he won, he pulled out a speech from his pocket and he's like, I want to read what I've written. And I was like, that's crazy that he saved it and didn't read it like the first time he was up there.
01:09:07
Speaker
he was too I think he was too nervous because his hands were shaking so much. like I think he was like, oh, man. He was very flustered. You could tell. But I was like, i was like good thing he kept winning because like he wouldn't have gotten a chance to read that.
01:09:22
Speaker
It's funny because you know, is like I think his wife was with him and his wife is the producer. And she's probably like, when are you going to read the speech you have in your pocket? he's like, I don't know. Panicking. She was probably like smacking him when he sat back down and was like elbowing him and like, why didn't you read it? Smacking him in the back of the head.
01:09:41
Speaker
Yeah. Because she probably wrote it for him. Probably. He was very flustered. it was good to start but you doing He wrote it, but she probably printed it out for him and and helped him put it in his pocket.
01:09:54
Speaker
the the um The guy who won Best International Film pulled out his reading glasses and never pulled out a fucking piece of paper. like You know when you hand when you try to show your mom something on her phone and she's like, hold on, on let me get my glasses.
01:10:14
Speaker
And she does that whole thing. He did that and then didn't He even like then didn't just looked out to the audience. And you guys can't see, but he even did one of these, like where he's like, like scrunching his eyes a little bit and literally read nothing. i was like, keep your fucking glasses, like keep them inside your fucking coat pocket, man. It's embarrassing.
01:10:40
Speaker
It wasn't. I thought it was funny. It was. That was funny. That's funny. Um, and the, I have a dumb thought and then I have a few questions. My dumb thought is Demi Moore, like her losing to Mikey Madison, that's basically the substance, what the substance is about.
01:11:00
Speaker
Yeah. Crazy. But do you feel so like the substance was a great movie, but do you think Demi Moore's performance specifically, do you think her character did enough to justify her yes yes it was there was a lot of aspects of like physical she acted great in it if she like the things i'm not mad at mike madison winning i'm not i wouldn't have been i would have been very happy with um demi moore winning i would have been fine with fernanda torres winning like this was a year where there was a lot of really good performances so like can't be mad either way but i think she definitely did enough in another year if this was like last year or a few years ago
01:11:44
Speaker
Like, she wins it. Easy. That's fair. My question
Horror Films' Future at the Oscars
01:11:51
Speaker
to you guys. So, like, do you think this was a good night for horror? And do you think that all the nominations was enough or, like, do they did they need to, like, win?
01:12:00
Speaker
i I feel like this is as good as it's going to get. I don't really believe in the Oscars in general. Like, I don't ever feel fair. I don't think they're... I don't think...
01:12:14
Speaker
the actual best films win. i think it's just like a weird like secret popularity contest. I don't know how the votes are counted, but it's not based on actual talent or anything. So I feel like this is the fact that so many horror films were even nominated is great, but it's not we anything real. So do you think the the trend continues?
01:12:38
Speaker
Probably not. It'll probably be another few years before you get like three or four horror. because What was it? Nosferatu, Alien, Romulus, The Substance. and I feel like that's it, right? Those were the only three horror.
01:12:53
Speaker
That's not horror. It was horrific to watch, but it wasn't horror. and It depends on who you ask. but i Having three and night two of them being in multiple categories...
01:13:08
Speaker
I think was great. And and The Substance won something. So... Yeah. Nosferatu didn't win anything, right? No. No. Shut up.
01:13:20
Speaker
Yeah. It's crime. I feel like... e I don't know, man. i don't i don't I can't see three horror movies being nominated again and like having such a presence. Because Nosferatu was probably nominated for like three or four things.
01:13:39
Speaker
But like The Substance was nominated for Best Picture and and and Best Actress. So it's like it was nominated for like some legit awards like where they're specifically doing press tour for.
01:13:54
Speaker
You know, Elian Romulus, I mean, they're all legit awards. I'm not downplaying any of the awards, but like Elian Romulus wasn't doing like, they they weren't doing press tours for Best Visuals, you know?
01:14:09
Speaker
Or maybe, I don't know. but i hear it I just think that you're not going to get... You're not getting three movies anymore that are going to be nominated with two of them getting like multiple nominations. I don't know if you're getting that anymore.
01:14:27
Speaker
Yeah. Not with... i mean it It might be some time. But it's happened um it's exciting when in it has happened. And I hope you know I mean, we're going to keep getting good horror.
01:14:40
Speaker
hope other people pay attention to it. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. I mean, in box office-wise, horror is doing very good right now. Hard Eyes and um monkey The Monkey did really well.
01:14:57
Speaker
And hopefully that trend continues as well, too. so Yeah, but Hard Eyes was kind of goofy. Yeah. and so So it was The Monkey. Yeah, that's conversation for another time, but the fact that yeah like people are going to spend money on horror, hopefully that means in some cases the the genre grows a little bit.
01:15:18
Speaker
Yeah. We'll see. Companion was basically not a robot because we found out when we left the theater that Companion was made after not a robot. So, you know, maybe Companion gets some knowledge.
01:15:37
Speaker
You never know, you know? I feel like this is the age of ai So, who knows? My stomach's also been making weird noises, and I hope ah hope it hasn't been picked up on the on the mic, but... Hey, if anyone listening, just let us know if you heard Enrique's stomach.
01:15:57
Speaker
Yeah, I ate mozzarella sticks before this, and don't know if they're agreeing with me. don't think it's one of my hot takes. Well, anyone else have anything? Nope.
01:16:09
Speaker
I did earlier. I did have something I wanted to end with and I forgot what it was. So, oh, yeah yeah, I do have something crazy, crazy.
01:16:22
Speaker
I cannot believe they left Tony Todd and. Oh, yeah. and And Carl Weathers out. I was curious to know, like how did they choose the in-memoriam?
01:16:33
Speaker
and I was like, maybe you have to have had ah nomination in the past. but know they were People that were left out. No, and like they weren't supposed to. like Tony Todd, Carl Weathers, Michelle... What's her name?
01:16:49
Speaker
Harriet the Spy. Thrasenberg. Yeah. and um And Shannon Dougherty, all left out. It's just, it's crazy that they brought up Gene Hackman because I'm like, he just died and all these people were supposed to be 2024.
01:17:07
Speaker
it's It's, I mean, it's deaths up into the the presentation. The wild, I mean, like Gene Hackman, they had to acknowledge he was such a prolific actor. But like the idea of leaving Tony, like that's insane. And a lot of the, every, I haven't spent a lot of time online today, but Everything on all the socials is like pe the horror community is livid.
01:17:30
Speaker
um So hopefully, you know, they they don't fuck up again. And ah like I can't believe it too either. like These are all massive names.
Carl Weathers' Omission and Relevance
01:17:44
Speaker
Yeah, I just thought it was crazy that like, and and okay, I can understand I can't understand. no I can't even give the benefit of doubt because, like, Carl Weathers was in Star Wars. So even, like, the younger generation knows who he is, you know?
01:18:04
Speaker
Like, crazy that you would leave him out. He was such a huge action star in the eighty s Huge, huge. And then to just make his way through the ninety s two thousand two thousand ten And still be relevant, you know, being in in Star Wars and you just completely leave them out. That's that's crazy.
01:18:35
Speaker
so i don't know. i That was my final thought was I don't have no idea how you leave Tony Todd and Carl Weathers out. um But that's that's that's that.
01:18:50
Speaker
Anybody else have anything to say? Nope. I agree full-heartedly. All right. Well, that's it then.