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Everything Action Commentary: I, Frankenstein (2014)
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Celebrating its 10th anniversary this month, Zach and Chris kick off another year of Everything Action Commentaries with I, Frankenstein.
Aaron Eckhart stars as Frankenstein's Monster aka Adam Frankenstein, who, following the events of the Mary Shelley novel, becomes embroiled in the eternal war of gargoyles and demons. 200 years after his creation, Adam takes it upon himself to hunt down and destroy demons but his methods put him at odds with the gargoyles, led by their queen Leonore (Miranda Otto). A plot by the demon prince Naberius (Bill Nighy) to use Frankenstein's resurrection science to unleash an army of undead demons threatens both gargoyle and humankind.
While watching the movie, Zach and Chris talk about how the opening is shockingly accurate to the Frankenstein novel, the similarities to Underworld (which makes sense as Kevin Grevioux helped create both), Adam's training regime, the overly conspicuous gargoyle and demon deaths, tracking resurrection as a percentage and more.
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Transcript
Introduction and Anniversary Celebration
00:00:31
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another evanation commentary. It's a commentary for January 2024. I'm your host Zach. I'm your co-host Chris. And yeah, we are starting 2024 off with Ed Doozy. We are celebrating the 10th anniversary of I Frankenstein. That movie, the beloved movie everyone loves.
Franchise Discussion: Endings and Revivals
00:00:52
Speaker
The movie that ironically put the Frankenstein franchise too dead, like to death.
00:01:00
Speaker
Yeah, no one tried to make anything Frankenstein related until Guillermo del Toro was working on his new one now, but this one was just like, oh, yeah, let's not do Frankenstein for a while. Yeah, it's about resurrection and living with sins, and then this franchise was just like, we overestimated what this Frankenstein movie would do.
00:01:26
Speaker
Well, they tried they tried to make it. They tried to make Frankenstein into the world.
Script Connections: I, Frankenstein and Underworld
00:01:30
Speaker
It's from his story. The story is by Kevin Greveau, who.
00:01:38
Speaker
create co-create underworld. He co-starred in his raze. Which made sexy vampires like kind of with guns, you know, like, yes, that was the huge premise. But, but this, I mean, it's, it's, it's like literally the same premise. It's like, instead of vampires and lichens, it's gargoyles and demons. And instead of Kate Begginsdale, you have Aaron Eckhart in a hoodie.
Viewing Guide for I, Frankenstein
00:02:02
Speaker
You could have done as this is a underworld side story.
00:02:15
Speaker
If you want to just show me the trivia right now, apparently that wasn't in one of the early scripts. It was going to be an MCU-style post-credits cameo from Kate Beckinsale. She would show up as Celine and be like, this is the same universe. Adam, Frankenstein, I need your help fighting Lincoln's now or something. So initially, this was going to be an underworld. Yeah, one of the early, early drafts, it was going to be totally connected to the underworld universe.
00:02:33
Speaker
Well, I mean- This is the same universe as in the world? Not bad, right?
00:02:45
Speaker
Man, that's how you would have done it. That's how you really explain why Frankenstein shows up in Underworld. Yeah, make the Underworld verse, yeah. You want to see it? But it's its own thing. And it came out January 24, 2014. So yeah, it's the 10th anniversary this month. And it's on Max, which is where we're watching it. So if you have a copy of this movie or you're watching on a Max,
Lionsgate Franchises Comparison
00:03:15
Speaker
Say we got max you're watching it. We're paused after the HBO presentation logo and if you're watching out like DVD or blu-ray or some other form of I Frankenstein media We're paused right before the Lionsgate logo comes up so like for like this like star system for like the Lionsgate logo comes up. We're paused right there So go ahead and get that all straightened out And then I'll give a countdown we'll get started here and
00:03:44
Speaker
So five, four, three, two, one, play. You could have been watching John Wick, but instead,
00:04:13
Speaker
or it's like it's like The Hunger Games and John Wick and that's it. I guess they're two franchises. Saw?
Origins: Graphic Novel and Inspirations
00:04:24
Speaker
Oh, yeah, they have Saw. Yeah.
00:04:31
Speaker
That's what this scene did. This is like a jigsaw cameo. You're in the jigsaw universe now, Frankenstein. I want to play a game. I want to play a game of taking you apart. There was something to do with an undead and then living with a mush life. Hi, Frankenstein.
00:05:00
Speaker
So apparently this is also, it's based on a digital only graphic novel that Kevin Gervo created.
Martial Arts Sci-Fi: A Sequel to Mary Shelley
00:05:12
Speaker
I mean, it sort of just looks like Hellboy, if you think about the premise of this guy fighting underworld. Yeah.
00:05:29
Speaker
So this is more based on, like this is, uh, litter. Yeah. Like novel. Yeah. Not all accurate. We're trying to sign a long hair, the trench coat, like Frankenstein's monster. And then. Like Frankenstein, like. Like guys in the. Is there a record trying to do like a British accent in this like opening or.
00:06:02
Speaker
something like that this is accurate yeah so this this is basically like i forget to say it's basically a sequel to the novel like the very shelly novel but like an insane like on like like ridiculous like martial arts sci-fi action like sequel to the novel
00:06:29
Speaker
It is accurate to the book.
Gargoyles vs Demons: Movie Portrayal
00:06:31
Speaker
I thought they would play around with the details. They are going for like accurate.
00:07:01
Speaker
Nick Fury steps out. Russell Crowe. Welcome to the Dark Universe. Vampires! Because, you know, that's a thing here. Oh, it's so realistic.
00:07:34
Speaker
Like they didn't even put like a rubber mask on that, like... Make Callie sticks. Yup. Is that a, like, is staking a demon, like, is that like a thing? Cause that's like a vampire thing, but these are 2D demons. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:12
Speaker
Well, it's supposed to be like vampiric things about them because they've got like claws and...
Speculative Settings and Connections
00:08:27
Speaker
Because it's the centuries old war between gargoyles and demons. Because that's always like a popular thing.
00:08:42
Speaker
That thing always has been brought up in fiction. But the guard girls are like sexy men, like sexy people. Yeah. You're not Goliath.
00:09:24
Speaker
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Wait, so are these gargoyles that always stay at the Frankenstein cemetery?
Jai Courtney's Role and Career
00:09:39
Speaker
And then everyone at this, this is family plot, so almost everyone here would be the Frankenstein's. Jai Gordy.
00:10:06
Speaker
I'll get you Jack Courtney. So this is like this is right after a good day to die hard or yeah yeah right after a good day to die hard for for Jack Courtney. What is Jack McLean, John McLean Jr. Wow you went from lead and that to just like secondary guy here.
00:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, and this is the same year as Divergence. I like how the gargoyles have like, symbol jewelry.
00:10:54
Speaker
that was also just randomly like in the cemetery too the symbol that she's wearing on her necklace like the triple t thing what's up
00:11:33
Speaker
Oh, isn't it- is it- it's Notre Dame?
Fictional Elements: Gargoyles in Film
00:11:39
Speaker
Huh. Yeah, it is. Where's- where's the, uh, Jason Alexander gargoyle from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from- from-
00:11:56
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00:12:26
Speaker
Like is there kid angels? I don't know what's going on. Well not angels, they were created by angels. But they're like gargoyle demon? Killers, yeah. I have no idea. The war is just gargoyles versus demons and they're kind of like the holy side.
00:12:45
Speaker
They should have just been like Disney's gargoyles, like actual creatures. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I thought it would be actual creatures. It wouldn't be angelic elves. I guess what they are. They're basically like Lord of the Rings elves, yeah. If you made her ears pointy, it's an elf princess.
00:13:15
Speaker
This looks like Witcher people. In fact, one of them is in the Witcher. I saw him was like, he's from the Witcher. He's just been in this for a while. Maybe some magic.
00:13:55
Speaker
see like that apparently that
Absence of Mary Shelley in Universe
00:13:59
Speaker
was just laying about that cemetery the like symbol are you are you getting all this out of their cart because it's very important like they're never explain this again to you
00:14:29
Speaker
Man, he has no respect for Kali. Oh, wait, their name is not Adam? Yeah, she named him Adam. He's just like, all right, I guess. Cool, new name. Yeah.
00:15:04
Speaker
one it was one yeah yeah
00:15:33
Speaker
Wait, in this universe, is there no Mary Shelley? It's a non-Frankenstein universe.
Frankenstein's Monster's Journey
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah, because that's the whole conceit of this novel is that it's like Frankenstein's journal. Oh. Like the actual information is like novel is like it's like
00:15:55
Speaker
Frankenstein is like, yeah, diary. Yeah, it's a diary. And there's no very Shelley. There's no Frankenstein stuff. It's just like, Oh, it's fine. Cause I get why it's also kind of bad. Cause it proves you don't need creation. Isn't like God control. So there's no bad, no real God. Yep. Here we go, baby. Just, just trading, trade themself into like in martial arts.
00:16:30
Speaker
See, the whole movie could have just been this phase, too. You know, I feel like... This is a pretty interesting plot in the beginning. Welcome to the pit, bitch.
00:17:01
Speaker
Wow, that's like 400 years? Well, no. 200? 200 years? I think it's 200 years. Now he's in like Blade. It's like a vampire bar, it's like a demon bar.
00:17:27
Speaker
This movie does a lot of explanation and jump shift here where now it's just like this movie could have started like this, right? Yeah. But because it's such a crazy idea of why a gargoyle's instead of vampires and stuff, it's just like they had explained that whole prologue that was almost a half an hour long.
00:17:48
Speaker
Well, the demon gargoyle thing is already complicated, and then they throw, like, Frankenstein's monster in there. I could have just been demon gargoyle moving. It'd be like Underworld, if you had Underworld going on, and then they threw, like, the invisible man or the mummy or
Unique Elements: Fantasy and Monster Films
00:18:04
Speaker
something. It's like, there's this war going on, but also the mummy's here.
00:18:11
Speaker
That's a really great description. He's also here. He could have been a gargoyle, but instead he's a Frankenstein monster. Or just like a human who gets caught up in like the war or something. Yup. But nope. He happened to be a Frankenstein monster who is just six foot one. Like Aaron Eckert is not a giant, giant man. He is just looks like a tall ish guy, but like,
00:18:40
Speaker
Frank's not supposed to be like seven foot, right? Or no? I think it depends on what version it is. Yeah, what version? He's not the green, tall guy in the book. He's just a lot of tall parts put together, but he's made of so many parts that probably the same legs wouldn't be the same.
00:19:03
Speaker
Was this like the like, like the doubt, like downward spiral for her necker? Cause he's got, he's like, I feel like he's only been like schlock recently. Like he's been like schlock action movies. Cause he's a dark night in
Aaron Eckhart's Career and Roles
00:19:20
Speaker
2008. And then it was like bail Los Angeles.
00:19:22
Speaker
and then Olympus has fallen was the year right before this and then he had this and then he had London and it's fallen then he had like it was like incarnate and then like uh ambush muzzle we forgot to mention we don't want Dylan Hill after uh uh Aaron Brockovich was he an Aaron Brockovich
00:19:46
Speaker
I don't think so. Oh yeah, he was, yeah. But I mean, that was like the, I feel like he was on the rise after that. Cause then he was like, he was like, he was like, you know, like he was like a like coast, like he was in like paycheck and the core, like he was in like big movies. Thank you for smoking. Yeah. Like, oh yeah. Post this. That was like, that was like his last kind of like, I feel like big sort of like actual movie. Like he's, he's been like really like,
00:20:18
Speaker
I mean, he was in Paycheck. I mean, if it's like Aaron Eckhart with lead, yeah. Anything recent he's been in, it's been like, it's like, like Bruce Willis, like, like kind of like, action slock, like. So when we go back here, she's very sympathetic to like, uh, this resurrection project. You know, like the, she's already kind of shown that
00:20:47
Speaker
She doesn't care about life. It was like a dead thing coming back to life. Was Chuck still in the air when this movie came out? I think it's been like one or two years after Chuck. Yeah, it's
Plot Unfolding: Frankenstein's Monster
00:21:02
Speaker
over by then. Chuck ended in like 2012.
00:21:17
Speaker
that's that's another weird like that's not weird thing but like like Bill Nighy is the bad guy of this and like this is an underworld movie this would have been like the same underworld guys like oh like what is confusing and there's Kevin Gavro with like a fake agent Smith
Technological Plot and Demon Schemes
00:22:58
Speaker
I can, Princeton Barriers also is in charge of like a tech company, a tech medical company. Yeah. This is just their weekend sex thing.
00:23:33
Speaker
It's like we're all into gargoyle BDSM.
00:24:02
Speaker
So in this universe, they don't suspect Frankenstein stories because they don't exist, or they do, but not in book form? I guess because it did exist as a novel. It's just like the Legargos hid the journal. There's this vague idea that Frankenstein existed and made it, but it resurrected something.
00:24:29
Speaker
but they wouldn't have the detail of the monster they do like that whole whole thing is now like infamous enough like that happened in their universe the whole Frankenstein monster and they just like carried over into a story people tell people but they missed out a whole bunch of facts about that
00:24:49
Speaker
Well, because Bill 90 was that weird demon headed, like the one that we saw the demon head appear on each of times. So he actually saw, like, Frankenstein's monster. Oh, OK. So he's like, like, so they're trying to recreate the process. But he's like, if he gets actually gets Frankenstein, or Adam, whatever, then he can, like, they can, like, you know, jumpstart their, like, whatever evil scheme he has.
00:25:18
Speaker
Okay, that kind of makes sense. I give them credit for that. It's a very clever plot to make it feasible for this going on. It's kind of similar to like Van Helsing where they need like Frankenstein's monster to jumpstart their scheme. Like the power of Frankenstein. You figured they would try something a little different but no, seriously the same plot from Van Helsing.
00:26:06
Speaker
In the 200 years that he's been around, he's actually only killed two people? That's
War Commentary: Demons and Gargoyles
00:26:14
Speaker
the first time he killed someone, I think. He didn't kill them. It's suing chaos. He got killed.
00:26:25
Speaker
But in the 200 years you've been fighting them, this is the one incident? Or is this like Lash Strike? That's like a pretty good record if you've like never been killed. Yeah, in the 200 years of fighting... So if this happened... It's your tower to the gargoyles. Super zero towers. But it's like... He um...
00:26:53
Speaker
if you were to tell me this was like the next week after the first part of the movie you know if that makes sense this is like 20 years later and they finally catch up and do all this yeah this dumb war between demons and like these eight gargoyles
Character Motives: Bill Nighy's Role
00:27:48
Speaker
I also realized Bill Nighy was also featured as the main villain in Pokemon Detective Pikachu. It's the same idea too where he wants something from some sort of project from something he shouldn't have in the first place. Same plot. Well, not exactly. There's no Detective Pikachu in this one.
00:28:16
Speaker
See, those are the proper gargoyles that we're thinking are actual gargoyles from, like, the TV show Gargoyles. Yeah. Not J. Courtney Gargoyle. See? Wouldn't you want, like, a Gargoyles movie that's, like, the Gargoyles? Disney's Gargoyles, and it's, like... But there's just, like... They don't have any other rules of, like, you know, they can't be out in the sunlight, or... They turn a stone in daylight, like...
00:28:45
Speaker
They just roam where they want to go. The only rule is that if they get killed by a soulless creature, they get ascended. But these have souls, right? No, demons don't have souls. If they get killed by a demon, then it's like they get ascended to heaven, I guess, or something. But if they get killed by something else, where do they go then? I don't know.
00:29:14
Speaker
How come the other way you guys are fighting them and then like the rest of them? It's like the entire city of France or like Paris like demons.
00:29:39
Speaker
Also, no one in Paris cares. Why are there crazy lights going on? And then where all these normal humans are running the streets like this? Like a mass flash mob?
00:30:07
Speaker
This is something you'd see at the end of a movie, right? Yes! This feels like the big climax. Somebody throws a shitload at you about, like, epicness and then these characters last stand that, like, we just met.
Film Critiques: CGI and Storytelling
00:30:35
Speaker
Wait, why do all the Gargos have different weapon styles? Like, they're very crazy weapons you would see at like a gun show. Like, very practical. Like, he has just claw daggers. He has a battle axe. Couldn't they carve the symbol on bullets and have like, machine guns?
00:30:58
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't have to be this way. This makes sense that they use these whole relic weapons at the time, like medieval weapons and medieval times. This is my own plan. Yeah, given modern times. The one gargle's got the gun weapon? No, that's my weapon. No one else can ever use it. Even a crossbow or something. They said all you have to do is carve the symbol on weapons and it makes them the holy weapons.
00:31:35
Speaker
God this is this is such CG sludge, dude So much like shitty CGI going on No, so more more CG more see the sky The Jack Courtney
00:32:07
Speaker
Nope.
00:32:43
Speaker
And again, no police, no one's noticing this. Pillars of flame and pillars of light are going off all over Notre Dame.
00:34:23
Speaker
It's a pretty smart plan.
Plot Confusions and Explanations
00:34:30
Speaker
Like this would have been again, a like climax to another movie. Yeah, everything about this feels like it should be like the final like sequence of like, oh, they've captured like, you know,
00:34:49
Speaker
stuff out badly has to get to like the enemy headquarters and rescue like the cargo queen it's like this is like we're like 30 minutes of this movie
00:35:38
Speaker
I'm confused about ascending so like they go to like super heaven I think so corn Wikipedia they get they are they're set to heaven they're trapped there so they're like I mean they're in heaven but they can't come back yeah cuz they were created by angels that's where they go and the demons get sent to hell and they never come back
00:36:21
Speaker
We're like some kind of Suicide Squad. I was saying, like, so he goes on a low-admission suicide mission? I mean, he teams up Frankenstein, so it kind of gets you that whole, oh, this becomes like a Buddy Angel movie, a Buddy Garbo movie. Where, where are my holy boomerangs?
00:36:52
Speaker
Oof, the CGI did not age well again. It's only 10 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. So the budget for this movie was like $65 million.
00:37:21
Speaker
You see it, they really put a lot in set design and props. He's going to make his own with Frankenstein's. Because either that or he's going to sell it for money.
00:39:14
Speaker
I do like in the 200 years he's been sticking with these kali sticks. Like no other weapon, no gun, no not just sticks. He picked up the one weapon and loved it forever. He's just been like, like they showed it like he's been like rocky foring and like the like winter mountains just like training with like his sticks. I guess the super most effective kill weapon because he's getting more kills off of those sticks than the gargoyles did.
Demons' Resurrection Plan
00:39:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:04
Speaker
I like how, like, he's trying to be stealthy, but every time he kills a demon, it's like this giant burst of flames starts showing up, so it's like... You can't be quiet about that. Yeah.
00:40:50
Speaker
So the demons want the book so they can make more demons to bring back the ones that got descended and probably locked out, right? They're gonna they're gonna resurrect like use the like the resurrection technology like resurrect human bodies but then put demons in them I guess. Yeah but then the demon minds from like the one from the layer of hell that they can't escape from. Yeah. I guess the Matrix.
00:41:19
Speaker
Yeah, I'm like the Matrix Battery arrangement. Because these are going to be human vessels for the demons to be in. Yeah. But then demons come here already as like a human form. You're not going to blend in with society when you all look like Frankenstein monsters.
00:41:47
Speaker
What's what's stopping your girls or the demons for like coming back anyway? That's what I'm saying. Like the main part of the demons is that they want to get resurrected as human demons. Yeah. Well, because they're not getting killed. They're getting like set back to heaven or hell. But the timeout zone is to come back. Yeah. But now with the resurrection thing, they can get out of the timeout zone. It's like
00:42:43
Speaker
So there's like infinite, they can just keep doing this forever.
Scientific Experiments vs Leisurely Activities
00:43:27
Speaker
Wow, I don't know how religious undertones there will be in a Frankenstein book about Garboil's demons fighting each other.
00:44:19
Speaker
I like how the quick shot was like this guy putting together like Petri sample things and her just pouring herself coffee. It's such a like science and leisure.
00:44:53
Speaker
That's me. That's me. That's me book. Very weird, cute me.
Character Interactions and Plot Progression
00:45:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:22
Speaker
you that like you should have had a murderous lock and then she's sort of like intuition like oh hey I think he wants this
00:46:26
Speaker
She says hello like a nervous like I met you like at a nervous like meet cute like like coffee shop or something like
00:47:25
Speaker
So does that mean like Frankenstein's monster is a demon? Because he's a soulless thing or? I guess, yeah. So I get the struggle now. Like, but what, but I was going to feel like a, what was it, was it going to kill Bill move? Yeah, like poke his heart. Yeah. Five finger palm strike. Yeah.
00:47:56
Speaker
So what's what's this? It's like it's like 70s Arab subway card. It's like plaid seats. French. They have up to their subway system. You figure they'll have like very elegant subway, like architecture and like interior design because it's France. And it's a very popular district. It's Paris and your tourism would be like beautiful in that central system. But. Yeah, they drive like a ship tunnel.
00:48:28
Speaker
Like it's like the original 70s carpeting. Also, is she the only human in this like company? I think the other side, this is a human guy too.
00:49:08
Speaker
Demons only. I know, it's like you didn't tell your, I mean, your headquarters is also your research lab to find this. It's just like your employer is going to question this.
Aaron Eckhart's Performance
00:49:48
Speaker
It is so good that this, like, biologist is so hot. Like, she went from, like, science girl leaving you with her hair up to, like, pulling it out and doing a runway walk.
00:50:16
Speaker
She's still more believable as a scientist than Denise Richards. Yeah. That's because she did more than one scene of science in this. Denise Richards looked at rocks. It was just like, well, I'm a scientist. She's got a little like, she's going like an Indiana Jones. She's like an archeologist now or something. She has the satchel ready, the jacket, the hiking boots.
00:50:56
Speaker
He really stole that move from Batman. I Frankenstein. Where is she? Where's Rachel? You know, Aaron could have been a Bruce Wayne. He does look good as a Bruce Wayne.
00:51:24
Speaker
I know it sounds like a growly voice for it. Yeah, he's definitely copying Christian Bale a little bit of like... I work Christian Bale, that's like a superhero voice, right? Yeah, deep growl. Yeah.
Complex Themes and Execution
00:52:16
Speaker
It's a lot to take in.
00:52:30
Speaker
But once they all go crazy and be like him, we're like... And be super strong and... Because Adam's not... It's not like he's like, inhabited by a demon, so like... Yeah. Like, I feel... Like, the whole army would be like, just like, whatever brain is in them, like... Yeah, like, I'm assuming he... Like... He, uh...
00:53:00
Speaker
was what he was before, right? Some dude and now he kind of got brainwashed. As long as it's the same sprain, but let's bring the same sprain. He's made out of like nine different brains. Oh, cool. He has Calystic training too. Yeah. It'd be funny if like the demons also have like an anti gargoyle symbol on it too.
00:53:30
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think they're using like the like classic like like demonic like star or symbol like painting that people's face the corpse's heads Okay, so maybe this is a classic symbol and that like if you get killed by that symbol then it counts Because if you can't kill it like demons aren't weak if you don't kill them with the symbol thing
00:54:06
Speaker
I do, but the visual of Calystixes looks cool. Yeah. It's just when you look up and see the demon's head, it just takes it out of place. So Aaron Eckhart did train pretty well for the Calystix. He said he spent like a good year like doing it.
00:55:16
Speaker
So have they done this before? I think so just like a theory. Yeah, it's just a theory. But it's like, have they possessed an undead body that came back from the dead before? Like, you know, have they possessed a resurrected unsold body? It's
Internal Struggle and Development
00:55:38
Speaker
a big if.
00:55:40
Speaker
Yeah, because there's like never been a soulless body before. Yeah. That's like alive. Has that worked? Is that a thing? Or is that just like an insane theory that they like think could be true?
00:56:28
Speaker
Actually, if they burn the journal, that should be better, because then now the demons can't figure out anything, you know, like... Adam's not gonna burn something back from the dead, is he?
00:56:56
Speaker
sick abs Frankenstein monster i spent i spent 200 years to crutches in the mountains she's like into scars like this
00:57:54
Speaker
She just believes in gargle queens, and she's like, yeah, okay, I'm doing gargle queens. Whatever you say, monster.
00:58:32
Speaker
It's a pretty high stakes for her and Because like the gargoyles are the only defense that stop the demons and I feel like that's really one-sided
00:59:06
Speaker
no one's ever said that to me i never thought of it like that before that's a good boy that's like blowing his mind i do like they also
00:59:28
Speaker
kind of take like a Captain America approach where he like spends time with his girl like he's never talked to like a human woman or something like a Steve Rogers like trying to talk to Agent Carter except they skip the whole why you're ripped and like combat ready so the super serum it's some sort of life formula
01:00:13
Speaker
Are they digging their way into hell? What's up with that tunnel? I think this is a red hole. Oh, that's their secret tunnel to hell for their backup plan. If they can't summon demons into humans, they'll just go and give them a ride through like a hell tunnel.
Universe Expansion Speculation
01:02:02
Speaker
You wanna be the bride? The universe is expanding! I don't know another mummy. I mean, I don't know another Frankenstein monster, but I do know a mummy. And it's the mummy from, like, the fucking- And a wolfman. Yeah, oh my god. But you have to team up with some little girl.
01:02:33
Speaker
Who wants this banished Dracula back to hell? To cut themselves the monster squad.
01:03:28
Speaker
What the hell is this building? It has like water running down the side.
01:04:01
Speaker
I was wondering if that was a French like museum that they met in. No, it has a water feature like that. It's a central station. So is that like the subway station or something? That's a really nice subway station.
01:04:33
Speaker
I do like how they live among humans, yet they really choose their gargoyle, like jewelry and furniture, like really traditional.
Character Dynamics and Plot Twists
01:05:13
Speaker
It should have just been destroyed.
01:05:47
Speaker
Where do you want to go, out of France? Also, good thing that both these corporations are still in France, like the gargled headquarters and then the demon, like, lavatory. And they live in secret in Notre Dame, I guess. And then, uh,
01:06:17
Speaker
The demon company has that like pod city like underneath. They could move to different countries. Also, the way that this queen now talks about, uh, Aaron Eckhart, I mean, you know, Adam now, it's like a jealous ex. Okay. After you complete kill, kill him. Like you're definitely trying to clean up this whole thing.
01:06:54
Speaker
Cause she's the one who named him and all that and then he rejects her. I'm not going to be in your war. Yeah. But you need to get involved because like the demon side is probably the worst side. And I wonder if they recruited other monsters in this war.
01:07:25
Speaker
in the alternate universe where this is like in the other one you tried to make an alliance with like the vampires they tried to make an alliance with like the mummy queen or king they approached um the black lagoon monster well it'd be like american gods essentially the same concept of them trying to recruit different factions
01:09:07
Speaker
Oh shit, he's ascending. Go to heaven.
01:09:55
Speaker
well that that fired horribly now that like the strong is dead so is that means he's a fight both sides now they both want to kill now
01:10:38
Speaker
Don't lie, his eye work is amazing in this. When he's doing like the brow frown and he does that before, he did that before, but now he, he did it here just perfectly. Just that's my response is the eye twitch.
01:11:15
Speaker
Wait, what? He, yeah, he killed like the other, like the other scientist guy and not just like bring it back to life, right? Yeah, but like, she can also be bluffing where it's like, actually we needed both of ours. It's like, understand. It can't just be me alone. Cause it's like, is he just her alone that knows the whole formula? Or it's like her and him.
01:11:43
Speaker
I think they both read the journal. So like he also knew like most of like the process or something. Cause they were talking earlier about like, you're talking earlier about like how many like, you know, like jewels you needed to like. Yeah. But the thing is like they had that journal for like an hour in their hand.
Reanimation Plot Discussion
01:12:06
Speaker
She had the whole night to read it. So it's like,
01:12:13
Speaker
That's one time reading it that's kind of important like does she take notes how does she like she memorized it The missing formula was the jewels
01:12:49
Speaker
It's cool that these reanimating things have like a percent counter, like a battery charge. Yeah, you know how much reanimation you have left.
01:13:52
Speaker
I'm
01:14:48
Speaker
What, you want to see this cool action? You want to see what happens after this joust?
01:15:21
Speaker
Interesting camera work, we got to see the respective of the gargoyle. Like, while being punched.
01:15:56
Speaker
This is a Matrix fight. This is the Asian Smith idea.
Themes, Motives, and Transformations
01:16:28
Speaker
Take that author of the series. I can't tell if this is intentional or unintentional. To get back from the gargoyles. Led into the spot where the weird demon experiments are going on.
01:16:58
Speaker
But he could've told them, but he didn't? Yeah, that sounds like a weird strategy plan that they're doing. Because now they really sound like the bad guys still.
01:18:02
Speaker
He's come back twice.
01:19:16
Speaker
I like how he's like a foot taller now in his demon form. Wait, gathering bodies for centuries? Like some of them are probably like skeletons at this point, right?
01:20:03
Speaker
So the guy's summoning Demon Chant to bring souls to be fitted? Yeah, the demons they got sent back to hell are coming back, you know. Yeah, okay. I mean, I feel like a lot of them are possessed already.
01:20:38
Speaker
Yeah, this guy's doing one by one.
01:21:13
Speaker
100% reanimated.
Climax and Resolution
01:21:17
Speaker
Fully charged. It really makes science to be like horrific in this where they
01:21:41
Speaker
Mechanica eyes like a mass production soul like collecting system
01:22:19
Speaker
Ah, tic-tac too.
01:22:50
Speaker
This seems like a pretty big vulnerability to demons if you kill Bill Nighy the entire facility blows up. The whole headquarters and then... I guess the endless pit they dug? Like a skyscraper underground? The portal to hell.
Concluding Thoughts and Legacy
01:23:56
Speaker
Just her. Okay. So they forgive Frankenstein. We're cool, right?
01:24:53
Speaker
To beat Gideon's replacement? I'm coming to you. You're my new bride. Yeah.
01:25:50
Speaker
That's the name of the movie. Does he call himself I Frankenstein? He's Frankenstein? The monster never called himself Frankenstein. Yeah, he's Adam Frankenstein. But in a way that's like, he thinks of himself like I Frankenstein, like me. Like a Frankenstein.
01:26:18
Speaker
as the last name or as the monster? You know what I mean? Like in this world, Frankenstein, people don't know what to call the creature because it's like, we call it Frankenstein or Frankenstein's monster. You know, like, so he's just like, I'm a Frankenstein. Like, oh, you mean like the family. It's like me, I, Goldberg, you know?
01:26:49
Speaker
It's a lot of concept. And I didn't know it was about, like, the existence of God and, like, control, like, and heavensgating and, like, hellgate. Like, it's a lot taken from, like, one introduction moving. But I don't think that, like, do they want this to be franchisable?
01:27:13
Speaker
I'm sure they were like, like, even if it done well, it probably would have been like, there probably would have been sequels, but it was a huge bomb. This is a high concept, high budget bomb.
01:27:38
Speaker
This seems kind of late for like a... I mean this is like vaguely New Metal-ish. Like 2014 seems like a little late for New Metal. This would have been like a pop hit in like the 2008 era of New Metal. Or maybe even like 2007? I feel like New Metal was like early 2000s. Yeah, yeah. It's like the end. This is the end of New Metal? Maybe.
01:28:08
Speaker
Because all the time you ever hear it is underworld, so this is sort of related that only New Metal goes well with these sexy creature features. In my head, I thought the scientists in Frankenstein hook up.
01:28:33
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was a scene where they like do it. Like in that weird dingy bedroom. Oh, the French crack then. Yeah. Man, this movie was lacking the soundtrack and it's just all here at the end. They're lacking the lyrical soundtrack.
01:29:01
Speaker
This would have been a montage, this song. God, the first two acts drag on with how much, like, it just, it becomes so time-sinky to explain all the sub-details of the war, what they want, what's been going on.
01:29:29
Speaker
and then like their first real encounter. Well it feels like they blow their wad with that like we're talking about like that like that like first action that first like big set piece feels like the like the final set piece and it's like then like after that it's just like well they had their like their biggest like most massive set piece already like where can they go from here like it is a little exhausting because you're just so like drained from
01:29:56
Speaker
getting excited and then be like suspenseful. Suspend, you know, you're like anticipating and all these other characters they served just in the beginning are dying. You're like, oh man, like, we're gonna miss that guy. And they're like, nope, that was one of the first half an hour. There's still like, ah, a crock load of movie left. Because at that point, they didn't even like,
01:30:26
Speaker
Were they already revealing that they had the bodies? The huge city cave of reanimated corpse ready to go? Well, apparently they've been collecting them for centuries. And I guess they were all there? In the hopes that they can get the recipe to do this?
01:30:55
Speaker
And then they were going to reveal like, Oh, I've got, I got places like this everywhere. Yeah. How are they, how are they preserving bodies for like centuries? Cause like they're all caves. Is that the missing cave weather? Yeah. Cause you're right. Like it would just be like a giant locker full like cryo freezing bars or something. Like we haven't checked to that yet. Maybe they're all like.
01:31:22
Speaker
a bunch of like Star Wars vats and Bantha vats. But so him moving hats off for like a crazy premise. It starts like what was like a beginning that the original Frankenstein like
01:31:50
Speaker
Mary Shelley's story begins. I didn't realize they really kept that accuracy. Yeah. And then going to explaining, Oh, no, these are not angels. Like, don't confuse the two, but they kind of are angels, but they're not angels. They think they're created by angels. They're created by angels. But
01:32:12
Speaker
The demons seem like they moved on with the world. They have jobs. They keep schedules. But the gargoyles never moved on past the Notre Dame office. That's why I think it's hilarious that the demons became more business savvy. Yeah, the gargoyles are thinking it's still the 1700s or whatever. Meanwhile, the demons are wearing slick suits and hiring a diverse staff.
01:32:42
Speaker
I just said like, we have that question where like, are the only humans the scientists and the rest of us all demons? Well, it's it's so it's so bizarre that like, you know, this war has been going on for centuries, but everyone dies in like, insane, like, like these like giant paratectors displays like,
01:33:03
Speaker
No one's noticed this war for the centuries to be going on, like no humans have ever mentioned like, oh, why are there like fireballs going off, like all over the place? Occasionally in France, you'll just see red and blue lights. Don't worry about that. That just happens.
01:33:19
Speaker
you see there's like a pyrotechnic explosion of fire go off or a beam of light go off like into the sky yeah it's not like this war every once in a while you know it's like the northern lights is like once every how many years you can see a clear northern lights
01:33:35
Speaker
This is that all the goddamn time they fight. Like how it flies in the air and hovers there for a long time to ascend or descend. And there's gargoyles flying around noch dum and like... Yeah. Some camera's like, okay, there's four gargoyles here and then like in the next hour there's only one. Like, you know, as a statue camera, a static thing that they probably have.
01:33:58
Speaker
You do have to have that suspend belief, or else you just spot so many goddamn flaws that Underworld just did perfectly where they explain they don't have anything too obvious when you die, you turn to dust. It's very quick and fast. This is very elaborate. Yeah, Underworld is way more straightforward. Yeah, it's vampires, werewolves. Secret societies.
01:34:22
Speaker
Yeah, traditional ways of killing each other. There's no crazy pyrotechnic display when they die. Plus, they do modern weaponry. Yeah, definitely they are lacking. Someone should have figured out, one of the sites should have figured out, oh, we can just have machine guns or whatever. I hate to say, I think Vel Housing's a better version of this story than
01:34:48
Speaker
than this Frankenstein original movie. I would rather watch Van Helsing than this, probably. Yeah, it's easier to understand. And it's sort of like makes sense. It's got Hugh Jackman instead of Eric Carver. Well, I mean, Eric Carver is not bad. It's just he's not for him. He's a good actor, but just not in this role.
01:35:09
Speaker
Yeah, he's trying to do like a Christian Bale, like Batman impression. Once you said that, it clicked. I was like, that's exactly what he's doing. Yeah. Specials thanks to Mary Shelley. For that thing she found. Couldn't tell without you. This is laying like 80% of the groundwork. I'm sure Mary Shelley would have been 100% on board with this.
01:35:37
Speaker
Imagine if this was like the next year for a box. I was like, I want to make him an action hero now. She's like, yeah. She's just like, I read about this thing called, uh, like, like, uh, Cali fighting sticks. Like, yeah. Do you remember that chapter in, uh, Frankenstein where he just Cali staked everybody? Yeah. And is there talking about demons, gargoyles?
01:36:09
Speaker
But yes, that was I, Frankenstein, hopefully. And if you remember that movie when it came out, I saw it when it came out, so. Unfortunate. Yeah, I remember it. I watched it once on passing on TV, and then it never was on TV. This is a movie you have to seek out. Yeah, somehow Max decided to get the rights to
01:36:36
Speaker
I Frankenstein today's the underworld movies to like that was that like part of the thing? Max is like the rights like they've got whatever studio put out like they have like the Lionsgate like or like we're for that underworld Well, I love the fact that it's like whatever the distributor for that the time streaming it's like, okay You want all the underworld you also get I Frankenstein free It's a bundle deal. Yeah You have to take it
01:37:07
Speaker
But yeah, underworld is like scattered across like every like stream surface. There's like no, there's like no one like source for like underworld. It's like, two is on Netflix. You have to rent all the rest of them. Damn. Blood Wars is on stars. Yeah, it jumps a little over the place. So
01:37:35
Speaker
uh if they ever do a sequel is it worth like being hyped for it like you know like i just don't know where the story goes from here some some new some new demon or like they like introduce another faction or something just like oh you know demons are bad here's like here's the bummies the invisible men are here like yeah i can see that and they're just like yeah let's not do more we don't know the zombies
01:38:05
Speaker
zombies are reanimated corpses again yeah but yeah so uh happy 10th anniversary i frankenstein um crazy movie you crazy ass movie that like bombed horribly and sort sort of could have been an underworld like side cool but wasn't
01:38:31
Speaker
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01:39:01
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