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Mission: Impossible 2 (2000)
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris's mission, should they choose to accept it, is to discuss Mission: Impossible 2, which turns 25 this week and we also have what is being billed as the final entry in the franchise, Mission: Impossible - The Final Reckoning hitting theaters.
Tom Cruise was back as Ethan Hunt, this time on the trail of a rogue IMF agent, Sean Ambrose (Dougray Scott), and tries to stop him before he can come into possession of a deadly genetically engineered virus known as Chimera. To help on his mission, Ethan is tasked with recruiting a thief named Nya Nordoff-Hall (Thandiwe Newton), who is Ambrose's former flame. Zach and Chris discuss how this movie is wildly different in tone compared to the other Mission: Impossible movies, IMF communication missiles, several similarities to Goldeneye, Ethan's Street Fighter-style martial arts moves, and much more.
You can stream Mission: Impossible 2 on Paramount+, Prime Video, and Hulu. Next week, we're going undercover with Chevy Chase to discuss Fletch, which is turning 40.
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Introduction to Everything Action Cast
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the podcast of week of May 19th, 2025. I'm your host, Zach. I'm your co-host, Chris.
Mission Impossible 2 Retrospective
00:00:28
Speaker
And this week, our mission, if we choose to accept it, is to dive into Mission Impossible 2, which came out 25 years ago this week, and also ties into what is seems like going to be the final entry in the Mission Impossible franchise, The Final Reckoning, which is in theaters right now.
00:00:45
Speaker
And the trailers, they kind of referenced all the other Mission Impossible movies. I'd be surprised if anything in Mission Impossible 2 showed up in The Final Reckoning. Like, is that fair to say, Chris?
00:00:56
Speaker
Yeah, this series has been going on for 27 years, so it's seen so many like different trends and ups and downs of stories. that i don't you know like Each movie wasn't like something that was like similar. it just like It keeps escalating to something crazier each time.
00:01:22
Speaker
I think... I'm surprised
Character and Style Analysis
00:01:24
Speaker
it showed up... Mission Impossible 2 showed up in Final Recon. We were talking and kind of like early this week about how like tonally it's just absolutely completely different from anything else in Mission Impossible. It doesn't even feel like a Mission Impossible movie.
00:01:36
Speaker
Oh, no, it doesn't. like For like ups and trends, it's like the this is still like a standout because this does not seem like such a spy movie. like Ethan... this is I think the only movie where the Ethan Hunt doesn't really... like infiltrate like into the organization or like kind of interacts with the bad guy until like the end yeah he's not he's not rogue like IMF isn't hunting him he's not he's not like you know a target by his own organization he's firmly working for them and but then his character is like totally different from any other like Ethan Hunt we see in the rest of the series like he kind of feels more like a bond kit like he's more like a swaggery bond like he just rolls up and like Hey, Ethan Hunt. like You want to join my team?
00:02:27
Speaker
I world-famous Ethan Hunt. because You've probably seen me from like the secret IMF team. Look at my hair.
00:02:37
Speaker
you see me climbing that cliff earlier?
Musical Score and Themes
00:02:40
Speaker
Which, I totally forgot that the cliff scene has like a very Caribbean-inspired soundtrack for it.
00:02:49
Speaker
Oh, the music in this movie is absolutely bonkers. It totally it shifts between a film-appropriate time to just like Where do they get this? like Did John Woo also so like score this? What's going on?
00:03:07
Speaker
but's It's Hans Zimmer. And this is the same year that Gladiator came out. I feel like there's tracks there like that were maybe like not good enough for Gladiator. Or like he was like... B-sides of Gladiator. Especially toward the end.
00:03:22
Speaker
Like... um um There's, like, scenes where, like we like, they're flashing back to, like, previous scenes or where people get infected by viruses. And it's just, like, Lisa Gerard, like, gladiator, like, chant. It sounds like the ah Maximus going into the fields music.
00:03:40
Speaker
Oh, the, like, angelic vocals that look like you're about to welcome to, like, Valhalla. Yes. Yeah, it's different.
00:03:52
Speaker
Yeah. I don't think um think any of the Mission Impossible movies before or after have a focus on the children. You know, the whole, like, we gotta protect the world for the children.
00:04:09
Speaker
is i think, because, you know John Woo sometimes has, like, messages in his action movies where it's, like, save the environment or, like, some sort of honor code or something. yeahp Or protect the innocents. Usually that's like a lot of his early works is like, you know, people have to do bad things in order to protect like good people and stuff.
00:04:31
Speaker
Uh, Ethan Hunt's the good guy and he's not rogue. So it's not like he's a change of heart to be like a better man. You know, he's, he starts, his character is the same guy who starts and ends the movie.
00:04:43
Speaker
Uh, yeah. I think, like, the thief character. What's her face?
Character Dynamics and Evolution
00:04:49
Speaker
Naya. Naya. Like, she's the only one that sort of has a change of heart, but, like, we saw that coming a mile away.
00:04:57
Speaker
I also think that secretly Ethan Hunt tried to kill her in that car sequence later, where he almost shoves her car off a cliff. Yeah, they're like the like oh but flirty like car chase.
00:05:09
Speaker
But i I saw that scene now as an adult. cause I saw that as a kid, and I'm like, wow, cool, this is how you flirt with like danger. um By ramming like two high-end sports cars and hopefully not killing the other person.
00:05:25
Speaker
I think it was secretly like, do ah you better help me or I'll come after you and I'll like up the ante of like whatever wacky stunt we can do next. Mm-hmm. I mean, it sounds weird, but I mean, think about it. That thief girl was it just minding her own business being a cat burglar.
00:05:42
Speaker
um And then this guy shows up and just ruins her heist and then rams her car. Mm-hmm. He's like stalking her, yeah.
00:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, and stalking her. and And she is just like, okay. I had to deal with one crazy ex of hers. You know, she dated guy like Ethan. like ah A guy so like Ethan that IMF has him double for Ethan.
00:06:09
Speaker
So, is it also like... and Another thing about the doubling, which they they kind of mentioned that he's done missions as Ethan before. But, like, why?
00:06:22
Speaker
I feel like it's weird to do that. Yeah. or I feel like... you We were talking about like the car chase thing and then like the kind of rogue agent.
00:06:33
Speaker
I feel like John Woo was like like was like a ah big fan of GoldenEye. There's a lot of GoldenEye in this movie. I got that near like the end where there was a shootout and the factory the beginning of GoldenEye happening in the middle of this movie.
00:06:48
Speaker
But then you also wanted to like have... like I don't Thomas Crown Affair or something like that, or like Entrapment. He just was a fan of Pierce Brosnan. He was just pulling in a bunch of like other like influences.
00:07:00
Speaker
And then like putting it on top i'm putting it on his like you know crazy action stuff out of... Oh, he he saw The Matrix and was like, how can I make a Bond Matrix movie that has to deal with corporate greed?
00:07:17
Speaker
I guess like militant security because we can't call them agents, but we can, like, have a private army of people for a chemical fact, like a obstacle company.
00:07:30
Speaker
And then why not tie in like, a love story, like, love triangle... romance that is like, who is everyone betray each other? they Where does Allegiances lie? like but The weird drama that we never see in any other Mission Impossible movie. yeah Maybe the first where like Ethan didn't know like if John Voight's wife could be trusted.
00:08:01
Speaker
you know like that's sort of They had the first two movies. like This kind of Ethan... ethan
00:08:08
Speaker
like What is it? like His girlfriend troubles? Yeah. you know like I think the only time that sword isn't like that is three?
00:08:19
Speaker
because three is married. You're just straight up married. It's like, if it's not my wife, I don't care. And then four, when they introduce Rebecca Ferguson, it's more like flirty. It's like, oh, we're like equals.
00:08:33
Speaker
You're like the the British version of me. And... Yeah, it just gets weirder and weirder since then.
00:08:43
Speaker
Okay. If Mission Impossible Final Reckoning has thing, they should bring back all the women in his life.
Speculations on The Final Reckoning
00:08:51
Speaker
We're still alive. they are secretly The AI has kept them alive and well.
00:08:56
Speaker
they the ity the entit Yeah, the entity found them all, like locked them away, like whatever base it has. You know, the Final Reckoning Part 1, whatever fine marketing part one if they did something with like the sci-fi and the eeriness, the meta-ness of the world, i I don't mind the last movie of the franchise just introduces like sci-fi concepts. Just like time travel or multidiversional multi-dimensional things. Just say, screw it. What are they going to
00:09:27
Speaker
Not make the next movie? This is the last movie. They can just introduce new concepts at the end and just like, well, that's it. I mean, the the trailers seem to imply that they're going to either like revisit scenes from previous movies or do some sort of recreations of them or that they're going to tie in some out. like They're definitely, they definitely show the, you know, the first movies, like the, you know, the CIA infiltration scene again. and and there's like clips from other movies too.
00:09:54
Speaker
But, yeah, don two I don't... Are they gonna bring Chimera back? Because this movie has a huge focus on that, and it is completely ignored. We don't even know at the end of this movie if that virus is, like, come is like a potential threat to the future.
Plot Intricacies and IMF Portrayal
00:10:11
Speaker
i think i think it's fully destroyed. But, like, it's not that... Did that company go under who made it?
00:10:20
Speaker
Well, it's what's even weirder is... The plan is... they it the print like um Like, Sean Ambrose's plan is to steal it, but he's just selling it back to the company that made it?
00:10:32
Speaker
It's a smart plan. Because it's like, he doesn't he doesn't have a lab... to He doesn't know make it. He just... He wants the... He wants to hostage it. And he's just like, also, this needs to work.
00:10:44
Speaker
Or, like, I pretty much wiped out Australia from the map. Which, i also I also forgot we spent the entire movie in Australia. Yeah. Yeah, completely too. I just, as a kid, not knowing my geography or anything, I just thought this was America.
00:11:01
Speaker
Like, i there's nothing about it unless you know the landmarks and the sites. it Like, you just think, like, a lot of foreign dignitaries are in this part of, like, Maine.
00:11:12
Speaker
And they're just having, like, a corporate, like, retreat. Mm-hmm. But it's interesting because, like, does Australia still have, like, fort? Like, it has a bunker fort that, like... I guess, yeah. A corporation just rented out.
00:11:30
Speaker
And also, if they rented it out, it looks sinister. Like, it looks... that that I don't know what they put in that port. Like, do they rent it for the day? Is that just part of the pharmaceutical company's, like, acquisitions? They're just like, we own a port?
00:11:45
Speaker
I don't know if that was, like, the pharmaceutical companies. I i feel like that was just, like, Ambrose just found that, like, I found this abandoned, like, bunker. I'm just gonna use that to, like, for my make my deal. No, no, no. ah If you look at it, it's, like, it's staffed by the... um by uh brandon gleason's like like men henchmen i know he brings in like one scientist guy to be like yep it's it's good okay so he brings but like the guys in the gray like business suit security gear that's on ambrose's men well i'm sure i'm sure youre like yeah i'm sure like brandon gleason brought his ah his like his security team and then ambrose's his team
00:12:28
Speaker
And they kind of saw that they all met at this like ah abandoned bunker. Yeah, because like, if you remember, like ah Ambrose snuck into the pharmaceutical company and then was trying to steal the virus and all that because they blew up the sample the first time.
00:12:48
Speaker
Yeah, because he didn't Ambrose never really had the sample.
00:12:55
Speaker
Well, he was, but then... He had he had the cure. He had... bull Because they stole, like, the scientist's bag. So they had Bellerophon, the cure. Right, right. they didn't have the virus. didn't have the virus. So, I mean, again, it's pretty funny to think that all Ethan Hunt had to do was just, like, not do the whole thing. Because, like, they could have just called the cops or just done something for, like, the pharmaceutical company, right? Like, it it seemed like a crazy...
00:13:24
Speaker
like, over-the-top plan where the movie have just been, like, a heist movie, like, straight up. Well, that's what happened. mean, it's always, like, it's always in the DNA from the beginning of, like, a Mission Impossible movie. It's like the, you know, it's always, like, a big, like, heist sequence where Ethan has to do some crazy, like, stunt. Right, right. But they spent so much time on trying to get Naya there, like, into Sean Ambrose's, like, private, like, inner circle and then, like,
00:13:54
Speaker
hang around and gather evidence. like Yeah, we know they're going to go after the clomp like Chimera. like That's the biggest problem with this movie is that there's like an hour until it actually becomes like a Mission Impossible movie. There's so much time. For like the first hour, it's... It's just a Bond movie. It's like a drama. It's like a... Not even like a heist movie. It's just kind of like a weird drama where it's...
00:14:23
Speaker
ah Nia's like yeah like pretend to be back with Ambrose and Ethan's like just like like brooding on the side and like the outback and then look do you do you remember they go to Spain for like one reason like just to go to go see Anthony Hopkins yeah Which, this this movie makes... Anthony Hopkins is the director of IMF, for this movie at least.
00:14:50
Speaker
And it makes it seem like IMF is just his weird private group. They're not associated with any sort government. it's just like, Anthony Hopkins is like is like a ah rich guy that has his own private army. It's just like, fun pretend spy that they got going on, their network, because...
00:15:11
Speaker
like At least in, I think, other movies, there's like it seems like a corporate structure to the IMF. Oh, and I think in 3, you go to IMF headquarters. It's like a full you know government agency. Yeah, and that's the confusing part because um there's so many more people in the IMF compared to what we've seen previously.
00:15:33
Speaker
It just seems like... In the first movie, it's like one team only, and it's like everything rides on them, and there's no backup or anything, and there's no, like... The CIA has get involved, you know, like in the first movie.
00:15:48
Speaker
And then... in In this, it just seems like... um they They blown their money in the budget. The IMF hired stupid stuff, like rocket-propelled sunglass unit.
00:16:03
Speaker
ah yeah they they have ah They have a bazooka that fires a rocket, and the rocket has sunglasses in it that has a video screen. So if want to be discreet, don't have shit that, like, is, like, in nature. If someone later on climbs that mountain, you know, it's unless it's, like, some super remote mountain, which, like, they're gonna let all that material they have on the mountain just rot or, like, decompose naturally, which I doubt.
00:16:29
Speaker
Well, the glasses explode, so there no one can see that message, but. But then it's like you have the pieces and they have the rocket that's embedded into the rock. You know, like one day someone's going to discover that and just be like, hey, you heard about this like IMF? Like, what's this rocket?
00:16:45
Speaker
Does Ethan have to clean that up? Maybe. is it put all all that stuff in his pocket and then like climb down the mountain? Yeah, you yeah but you bring bring it in, pack it out. it's the he's He's very into like preserving nature. Yeah, so that's I'm like, all right, this is interesting.
00:17:02
Speaker
Alright, so then... um Otherwise, like... ah So another thing I'm confused about is the movie has, like, a little backstory between...
00:17:14
Speaker
Ethan and the doctor guy who injects himself with Chimera. Yep. It's as if it's like, as if there's like another movie we all missed out on about their relationship. Cause he's like, yeah.
00:17:27
Speaker
yeah Cause he's like my old, my old friend, Dimitri, I need your help. Once again, my friends is, I don't know if Dimitri is the Russian version of Ethan. I think that's just like his, like that was his cover that he was like, the doctor knew him as Dimitri.
00:17:46
Speaker
But then they send Ambrose in as Dimitri, as Ethan. And then, because at that point, I think Ambrose was still with IMF? Yeah, I think those that was an officially sanctioned mission to, like, because they couldn't find Ethan because he's rock climbing.
00:18:03
Speaker
they sent Ambrose, and Ambrose like, well, I'm rogue now. I'm going crazy. I'm nuts. I'm just going to steal this, upload this airplane and steal this virus. And then the IMF doesn't send anyone else to stop Ambrose.
00:18:16
Speaker
Just blow up his house. They know where he lives. Uh-huh, yep. It's like he did a terrorist act.
00:18:27
Speaker
And then IMF's just like, listen, go get his ex-girlfriend. Go send her over there. Yep, yep. um infiltrate the pharmaceutical company who hasn't done business with Ambrose yet.
00:18:38
Speaker
They're going to, but not yet. so They're not a crime yet. I guess the thing is they don't they don't know anything about what happened. They just know a plane crashed and the doctor was on it. don't They don't even know... doctor mentions Chimera, but they don't know what Chimera is. they don't know what Blair-a-fun is.
00:18:55
Speaker
So that's part of it. is They need to figure out exactly what Ambrose has and what he can do. Oh, okay. Yeah, the but then, I mean, they did the smart thing by kidnapping, uh, Brendan Gleeson.
00:19:06
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But I feel like they could have kidnapped him, like, day one, instead of doing the, uh, the Naya plotline.
00:19:19
Speaker
Well, I guess they didn't realize Brendan Gleeson was a buyer until, like, when they went to, like, the racetrack. Oh, okay. That's true. But then it's like Naya was there because she could help steal access codes and stuff. like it It seemed like on paper it was like, how do we insert this reason?
00:19:41
Speaker
And you could see it. Because, yeah, it's not like it's not like she already worked for Ambrose. And then Ethan got to her and like converted her on his side.
00:19:53
Speaker
And it's not like there's a history between her and Brian Gleason to get mix sort of like the the like mix ah If anything, ah Hugh Stamp, um played by Richard Roxburgh.
00:20:09
Speaker
Yep. He's the best henchman. He, like, totally calls, like, why do you have this girl? This is problematic. And then, you know, can spot, like, trouble before Ambrose.
00:20:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah. it's It's seen where, yeah, like, like Richard Roxburgh was, like, like, she wasn't, like, why are you later back in? She's obviously a spy. And then, they like, like,
00:20:32
Speaker
um Dugray Scott is like such a simp in the Star movie. like He's just like, well, Richard Rockford was like, well, she wasn't exactly gagging for it when she left, and he's like, I'm gagging for it!
00:20:44
Speaker
Yeah. He's willing to like risk his whole business venture. he so Yeah, he's risked everything because he's horny. And then then like that's the whole scene when he like dresses up as Ethan just to find out if Naya loves Ethan. And he's just like, oh my god, she likes Ethan more than me? There she is.
00:21:06
Speaker
Time to get crazy. Even more crazy. Yeah, more crazy than before.
00:21:15
Speaker
Yeah, he's he's he's such a like a crazy villain.
00:21:21
Speaker
it's ah It's also crazy that like this is the movie that Deogray Scott did that like forced him out of being Wolverine in the X-Men series.
00:21:30
Speaker
Because this went long and he also got injured during like the motorcycle chase. and then So he couldn't do X-Men and that's what they had they got who Jaguar did. They got an Australian to be Wolverine instead of a Scott?
00:21:43
Speaker
Is he Scottish? Oh, yeah, he's Scottish.
00:21:49
Speaker
So, it's, uh... interesting that Wolverine could have had, like, this accent. You know? Does Duggarry Scott ever do an English accent? Like, got American accent?
00:22:01
Speaker
Yeah, I can't remember if he's one of those British guys that can, like, basically just, like, turn into an American or not. Or if they're still, like... Like, if he's, like, a Gerard Butler where you can never really lose the accents.
00:22:14
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, well... Well, do you remember Gerard Butler did did some movie with Hachner Heigl and he pretty much played an American version?
00:22:28
Speaker
But he sounded like such a weird, well, like proto-Den of Thieves, Boston kind accent.
00:22:39
Speaker
sort of like Maybe like a Benedict Cumberbatch where like it's like he's tried he tries to do like a Boston accent and it's it's it's snap it's not Boston
Australian Influence and Team Dynamics
00:22:47
Speaker
at all.
00:22:50
Speaker
and I gotta look up Dugare Scott's filmography to see if he does an American accent well. Could have been different. Could have been like, we've all been blown away at the Wolverine. Uh...
00:23:03
Speaker
So...
00:23:07
Speaker
The one... Okay, so not just the one. Now I'm thinking about it more.
00:23:12
Speaker
Does Ethan's team seem like it's just like the bare minimum for this movie? It does, yeah. It's high budget for everything else, but then when it comes to his crew, Ethan is doing the job of like two to three people.
00:23:25
Speaker
Well, obviously obviously Luther's there, because Luther is in every movie. Luther's just the tech guy. Yep. And then they have Billy, who is probably the most forgettable team member of all time.
00:23:37
Speaker
But not if you're Australian. It's like you're finally getting an Australian in australia in a high budget movie that isn't like Crocodile Duny. It's like 2000, mind you.
00:23:47
Speaker
you know ye And then who who do you have to represent like Australia as a native? You just have this like raging like stereotype of like an Aussie.
00:23:59
Speaker
And he might as well have been like a drunk character. mean, he's great. But it's like
00:24:08
Speaker
He's not, like, refined, and i don't think you see him outside of, like... He's not walking around. He's always, like, in things. Well, he's... Oh, he's flying. Yeah, his main job seems to be helicopter pilot, but then he is... at the racetrack, he is undercover as, like, an usher or something, or, like, some sort of guard or, like, a horse track worker. Because like, slips an eye, like, to like the the race bill.
00:24:37
Speaker
And then kind of delays Richard Roxborough a little bit by slaying the door on him. And then almost gets strangled death Richard Roxborough.
00:24:48
Speaker
He's like, oh, sorry, mate. He's like, are you sorry, mate? ah shit I'll kill you!
00:24:57
Speaker
yeah, ah like the um the unlike the... If you're like ranking like IMF team members, like I feel like Billy would be pretty low and you know compared like later team members.
00:25:10
Speaker
I mean, yeah, he's he's fun, but, like, not... Like, no one's like, oh, man, my favorite IMF team member, Billy, from Mission Impossible 2.
00:25:21
Speaker
It's also funny that, like, they basically had the exact same... Like, they also... Mission Impossible 3 had, like, a helicopter... Because, like, I think Jonathan Rhys-Meyers was, like, a helicopter pilot for, like, 3. Was he? That's basically the same thing, just doing the same job.
00:25:39
Speaker
I feel like, I mean, i one had a team, but then they killed the entire team in the first, like, ten minutes. Three was the first, I feel like where they actually had, like, you the full, like, heist crew team. Yeah, yeah. And I think because I think back about his team, it's like, at least his team sort of played big, vital roles.
00:25:58
Speaker
Like, small things, maybe they even got out, like, they did things that weren't, like, sit in the van or wait in the car.
00:26:07
Speaker
They actually, like, you know interacted with the enemy, or infiltrated themselves. like Luther, I mean, he's the hacker, so I get he's the man of the computer screen. But there could have been a scene with Billy, like, I don't know,
00:26:24
Speaker
like, opening the door, or like, delivering a package to distract the guard, or or like,
00:26:31
Speaker
I mean, he did bump into, like, Huey. Like, Hue when they're the racetrack. So, like, kind of counts, but I feel like it's so minor that could have just been, like, a complete accident. Yeah.
00:26:43
Speaker
Yeah, definitely could have used more... Well, the first hour definitely could have used, like, some sort of set piece. Like, just another action set piece to kind like, break things up. Because it's a long stretch of...
00:27:00
Speaker
not really there's there's not really like a heist it's kind of little bit of like heisty kind of connor stuff going on but it's mostly just you know yeah just drama happening lot of drama um you know been interesting is like if another criminal organization try to rob brian gleason and then ethan stops them not realizing that that's not ambrose mm-hmm It could have been a fun, like, we need to, like, keep em Ambrose, like, we got to stop Ambrose, but, like, there's also, like, another group that, like, can still mess up the whole thing and and, like, make it worse.
00:27:36
Speaker
Or, yeah, or but if yeah there's, like, another buyer that was, like, a worse buyer, they were, going like, betray, they found out they were, like, kill Ambrose, but it's, like, we can't they can't kill him because we, like, we need to get the virus back. Like, the we need nobody's up to.
00:27:50
Speaker
Oh, actually, yeah that would been cool if Ambrose actually teamed up with another person, because it explains like how he's able to like basically walk away from IMF cleanly, and then set up his own like paramilitary group of like guys, but his team is just full of randos.
00:28:08
Speaker
They are. like therere there' There's a few of them. They're trained, I guess, but if you look at his crew, they're all made up of stuntmen. you know like Well, one of them is... a William Mathover, who is Tom Cruise's cousin.
00:28:23
Speaker
Right, right. um And he's like their version of Luther, I guess, because he's like the tech guy. Yeah. Although I think the only techie thing he does is just monitor the transfer of the $30 million, whatever it is, that they sell.
00:28:38
Speaker
It's not close enough.
00:28:41
Speaker
But you know what i mean? Like, they've been fun because it's like, this is supposed to be like Ethan's equal and like or a shadow since it's, you know, Ambrose has doubled for Ethan and then everyone else on this team could have been ex-MIF agents that also have done things and or or like have a grudge against Ethan and his team.
00:29:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's like it's like that scene from like Shaun the Dead where it's like the, like the, exact opposite team. They run into their doubles, basically. like like Ambrose has entire team of just doubles. like he yeah like William Mappo is his with Luther. He has like his own Billy.
00:29:17
Speaker
Yeah. it's like Instead of Australian, it's an American guy.
00:29:23
Speaker
And it's a redneck American. Who drives a boat in a helicopter. Yeah. Because i all think about this movie takes place like a lot by water, so a boat guy makes more sense.
00:29:38
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of a lot of islands, a lot of coastal things on the coast happening. There's a lot of vacation time for Ambrose. Even his home, it looks at a vacation spot, and then how he meets Nya on the dock.
00:29:51
Speaker
It seems like an ad for a cruise. like a yeah like a perfume commercial. like He catches like the her like handkerchief or neckerchief and like slow motion. And it slowly pisses off Ethan.
00:30:03
Speaker
So, man, so much just, like, crazy John Woo slow motion. Like, dramatic slow motion. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like, it's ramped up to the extreme by the end, and when we talk about the end sequence, it's a whole, like, rant about just the usage of slow-mo.
00:30:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's, I mean, it's it takes a while to get to, like, for to, like, go full John Woo. When it goes full John Woo, it is, like, the most John Woo thing ever created. Like, this is like, unrestrained John Woo.
00:30:31
Speaker
ah yeah. Uh... It's Hollywood budgeted John. i All this like fancy camera usage and I guess like experience to make crazy setup shots, which is fine. But like it feels like a different movie in the whole overall series because we never get anything close like this again.
00:30:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's way more close combat than I thought in a Mission Impossible movie.
Action Style and Plot Devices
00:31:01
Speaker
Well, I think i think we we were talking earlier this week, too, about, like, um there was kind there's kind of a time... Because, you know, the first one, Brian De Palma, he put yo he he put his stamp on the first one.
00:31:12
Speaker
And then John Woo obviously put his stamp on this one. And it kind of seemed like the Mission Impossible series was going to be like, we're going hire a director, and the director's going to do, like, their style and with our characters and kind of you know do, like, a spy movie. but it's like they're going to, like, highlight their style and, like... ah um direction.
00:31:29
Speaker
But then, three three kind of, like, J.J. Abrams, and you Lens Flare and all stuff, but then, especially, Ghost Protocol onward was just like, nope, this is, it's, we're not doing it anymore. This is the style of the Mishapasa movies now.
00:31:42
Speaker
would admit that, like, three sets a good pacing of, like, like set piece action sequences sprinkled throughout the movie, so, like, you never wait for the second act to get back into, like, the Mission Impossible action sequences.
00:32:02
Speaker
Or like running. Like Ethan. Ethan runs a lot in the first movie. He runs away from things. He runs towards things. He's running. To get someone. Or you know. Running.
00:32:14
Speaker
Well. By the end. He doesn't run. He's climbing a train. But he flies. Yep. um And this one.
00:32:24
Speaker
Not that you mention it yet. Not that mention it yet. I don't think he runs at all in this movie. At the end, he runs through the corridor, like, through the tunnel. So, like, you get a sort of a dash. Through a ah swarm of, like, pigeons and doves.
00:32:37
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So, like, I mean, that that's the John Woo setup. Like, that's just, this is John Woo having fun with, like, what he knows. Mm-hmm. But, yeah, like, there's none of that. There's no running or, like, a sword...
00:32:51
Speaker
like urgency that is realistic. The driving sequence looks like, to me now, like, two rich people having fun. know, this is just what you do. It's the James Bond, GoldenEye scene of, like, you know, people in fancy high-end cars, like, drifting on the coastline.
00:33:08
Speaker
Like, that doesn't happen for the regular person. But we've all had a run before. Like, we've all had a dash to something, or, like, quickly jog, or or even, like, run for your life at some point.
00:33:20
Speaker
Mm-hmm. I don't, it's not great, but, yeah, running is, like, universally understood. Driving a high-end car and pushing, like, Thine Newton off a cliff is not, like, something I can see myself do.
00:33:37
Speaker
Or, like you orre like like, yeah, running as you take off the the face of your enemy that you set up to die. That's another run sequence. See, like, all the running happens at the end. Yeah. i feel I feel like John Woo was also the director of that really latched on to the mask part of Mission Impossible. Because like you know obviously every movie uses it, but he was just like, oh man, masks. I can really use this. Because there's so many... I feel like the most mask used in this movie.
00:34:09
Speaker
You know, Ambrose pretends to be Ethan twice. Ethan's, like, switches, like, is, like, as, like, i register the times reader two or three, like, disguises. Does he?
00:34:21
Speaker
He was pretending to the Doctor. Doctor, and then he is ah Richard Roxborough at the end. Okay. So two. I'm counting four so far. Mm-hmm.
00:34:34
Speaker
but like But, like, the other movies have, like, one. there's like what yeah i feel like there's, like, one or two in the the other movies where it's, like, there's the The one big mask scene where Ethan has to pretend to be somebody else.
00:34:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I can see. ah
00:34:52
Speaker
I can see basically... Wait, wait. Final Reckoning. Was there another big mask scene? Well, we haven't Final Reckoning yet. Okay, what was the one before that scene? deadreing Dead Reckoning had... Dead Reckoning, think the only mask scene was when he like breaks into the... It's like the... um like Joint Chiefs or whatever that meeting was and gasses everybody. um the but That was early. In the beginning, yeah. i think was it um I think Ghost Protocol was the one where they the mask machine broke so they couldn't use masks.
00:35:27
Speaker
That's not Ghost Protocol. That's Broke Nation. Okay. Okay. That was like the fun, playful, like, okay, we've done this so much. Yeah, we've used masks. Everyone knows we're masks. We've figure out a new way to do this.
00:35:39
Speaker
Well, I think also in Ghost Protocol, the mask machine breaks again.
00:35:44
Speaker
think it, like, something happened to it, and it just doesn't work as well. Yeah, and I think they they have to assume that the person they're meeting has never met that person, so there are gambles that, like, well, they've never met him, so you you can just pretend to be him without using the mask.
00:36:03
Speaker
So, ah based on that, yeah, it's more like a quick plot device. Let's just change the formula around, i guess, where it's like... It just becomes like MacGuffin in order to have fluffed up drama.
00:36:20
Speaker
But yeah also in this one, like where where are they making their masks? like like I think we've seen their movies, like it's like an elaborate machine... If it's a suitcase, but it's like a lab machine, but then wheres where's Ethan making a mask at the end of the movie? That's the MacGuffin part. It's just like, in order to have that drama. So Ethan had to pre-pack the Hugh mask.
00:36:41
Speaker
Yes, he had to assume that was going to have like he needed to use that some point. And that that they are roughly the same size to wear his clothes. Or at least his jacket. i like Richard Rocksboro was like much taller than Tom Cruise.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:56
Speaker
Uh... And then he had time to, like, learn his mannerism. Mm-hmm. Because Ethan Hunt then had to put on an Australian accent. Well, you had the voice thing that changes your voice on your neck. You also needed to record the voice in order to do it.
00:37:13
Speaker
yeah which Yeah, when did they record his voice? No idea. Yeah. that That may be part of the... know if you read this, but, like, apparently the first cut of John Woo's... John Woo's first cut was, like, three and a half hours long.
00:37:28
Speaker
So there probably was a scene. And then Paramount was like, absolutely not. I'm curious to see that three hour long cut. Like, will we ever see that version? Or release the John Woo cut.
00:37:41
Speaker
i mean, what's the harm? Mission Impossible 2 is like... You want to get this back in people's mind? You want to get like new medals coming back in a weird way these days? Like, Limp Bizkit's back?
00:37:52
Speaker
Yep. Give us the John Woo cut of Mission Impossible 2. And and the Final Reckoning is like close to three hours long already. It's be it's like the two hours and 50 minutes. So, yeah but yeah, it's like the new standard for movie likes.
00:38:07
Speaker
Hey, you're getting a good bang for your buck. I remember, like, I saw this movie in theaters, and it felt like the appropriate two-hour long action movie. So, in retrospect, there's no action in the first hour. An hour of it is like Jabu action movie.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah, the last act. Well, looks okay, so to be fair, some John Woo movies, there isn't a lot of action in, like, the first act. It's usually, like, opening opening scene to set the tone, and then, like, a lot of establishing characteristics, like, to just, like, let know people about the character and why they're on this journey of, like, redemption or, like, revenge or, like, vengeance.
00:38:55
Speaker
Yeah. you know like it At least the movies like Bullet to the Head or Hard Target or I've seen another genre.
00:39:09
Speaker
The Killer. The Killer, yeah, but there's like the Killer is spread out. It's even, I think. The Killer is a very balanced every 20 minutes action.
00:39:22
Speaker
Until the last act. And then it's like, alright, last act, save it for the last part. ah
00:39:30
Speaker
So, I came in this movie already expecting that because remember watching a lot of E.T. hyping up for the release of this, like footage, like the stunt wire work, and then interviews with Tom Cruise. Like, yeah, rode motorcycle. Check me out. Like, they made such a big deal about the motorcycle.
00:39:49
Speaker
And it's only in, like, the end sequence. And it still doesn't make any goddamn sense. I mean, we'll get... Well, let's get into it now, because, like... Well, do you want to talk about, like, the bio-site scene at all?
Chimera Virus and Action Sequences
00:40:03
Speaker
Because that's when... If you want to talk about, like, when it kicks into action, like, that's when it finally kicks into action.
00:40:08
Speaker
Fine, let's talk about that. Because that's, like, where it feels like John Woo is finally, like, in control and showing his, like, action sequence He's like, you you've waited long enough. Here you go.
00:40:19
Speaker
Tom Cruise's double pistols. But,
00:40:23
Speaker
yeah. But, yeah, the bio So, yeah. the team has to break into bio site headquarters because that's where the the remaining chimera is. And then, so you know, it's typical mission impossible craziness. Like he has to jump out of a helicopter and slide through a grate.
00:40:38
Speaker
That's only go be open for 40 seconds. And I also, I also feel that was kind of like, they're like well, we got to one up that, the the first, that scene for the first movie where he is like slowly, like, uh, kind of like rope down into like this room. Now he's going to jump out of a helicopter, like full speed and,
00:40:54
Speaker
go and like do on a rope
00:40:59
Speaker
and uh he does you know he's like acrobatics like he always does and then um and i i do i do love the step too where uh like ambrose knows exactly what ethan's gonna do and they're like they they're like they're like both describing like their plans that's that's like a cool like it cuts back and forth in a cool way of like Ethan's saying his plan and Ambrose undercuts and says, like this well, this Ethan's going to this because he doesn't want to... He always does acrobatics. He doesn't want to endanger anybody.
00:41:28
Speaker
so we're going to do this.
00:41:32
Speaker
So Ambrose is like totally ready for whatever Ethan's doing.
00:41:38
Speaker
And then... Yeah, so they finally... they finally like Is this the first time they come head-to-head? this Yeah, this is where like they actually meet. Or in the same room, finally, for the first time? Yeah.
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah, so they finally face off, and then we get like a ah ah huge, a big John Woo crazy shootout, where Ethan's got double pistols for, like the I think, the only time in the entire franchise is when he's dual-wielding guns.
00:42:06
Speaker
And then he's like doing crazy flips and rolls and dodges, and guys are getting launched off ramps.
00:42:18
Speaker
ah like This is what I'm talking about with the Faceless security team. because They're just like cycling over the same like stunt guys. And it's fine. because It has a cool... like All these guys are like minions.
00:42:33
Speaker
no like Only if you're wearing a different attire are you going to survive this fight. Yeah. Well, it's, it's fun. Cause like Ambrose is his team, but then they're making so much like the alarm start going off. So then the actual like building security comes up.
00:42:45
Speaker
So then they're, they're fighting like Ambrose's guys. And then, and then Ambrose's guys are also fighting them and Ethan. Ethan's trying to like get the, uh, the last chimera, uh, injector gun.
00:43:00
Speaker
Wait, wait, wait. The NJ actor gun also has, like, the, like, weakest, like, housing unit for some, like, super viral, uh, like, virus, right?
00:43:14
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it's, it's not, you go into, like, one door, and yeah you, you have to get, like, the, uh, decontamination to put on you for a little bit, but then it's, like it's like, yeah, one glass, like, uh,
00:43:27
Speaker
It's a glass box housing another glass box, because the the room is like glass floor, glass ceiling. like It just doesn't seem like if some projectile ever got loose in that room, everyone's dead.
00:43:42
Speaker
Everything's breaking, that virus is getting released automatically. Yeah, this is this is the deadliest. It's every it's like every strain of influenza combined into a mutant strain. It's going to kill everyone if it gets like unleashed.
00:43:56
Speaker
And it's it's in an easily breakable glass box.
00:44:03
Speaker
yeah like the like The CDC, it's like if if it's if it's like a deadly virus, it's like like you know forty it's like deep underground in a vault that you can't... You have go through like five doors to get into the room, and you have to wear like a full body suit. and But for some reason, the Australian standard is just put it in um basically...
00:44:26
Speaker
like a heating unit room. like It looks just like a boiler room. i think he I think even Ethan takes off... because he's He's wearing a protective mask when he destroys the... There's like the like ah proto-samples that like they use to make the rest of the viruses. Yeah.
00:44:46
Speaker
um he's wearing protective mask he's in there but then he takes it off when he goes into the room with the injector guns and so he's just not even wearing a mask just like using these like rubber gloves to ah shoot shoot the like the virus into these like exploding canisters that kills it the exploding canisters is interesting because they have like They have like the gun, the injector, and then the the unique canister to like put it in. I guess the canisters only work once? Yeah, one time use. you have to use each one.
00:45:18
Speaker
But why does the canister also make like a smoke and like a noise and everything? It's very like MIB. Yeah, it's like an explosive. It's like blowing up the virus. And I'm like, what is that canister? Is that like a real thing?
00:45:35
Speaker
think that was made for just the movie. I think you shouldn't have an explosive and an in an oxidized room and then in a glass box. It just doesn't seem the best protocol.
00:45:52
Speaker
But I do like that Ethan automatically I don't know like where he knew to do that like to inject it. Did it they go over it where it's like ok in order to destroy it you have to like inject it into like this destroying unit?
00:46:06
Speaker
I don't, yeah, I don't think that was in the briefing. He was just like, oh, I know what to do with this. yeah Yeah, and the thing is, it's quiet. It's all silent. you know Ethan's not even talking, but it's dramatically lit and and scored.
00:46:20
Speaker
That room kind of reminds me of a Batman Forever set. ah Yeah. Like green, red, and blue. Mm-hmm. The lighting and everything, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:46:31
Speaker
Like, did the scientists not get, like, a headache walking in there and spending time in there? Like, you gotta to do work in this, basically, this villain room? That's how you know it's evil. And the the company looks like it has money. Like, the downstairs lobby, the security, el it looks like it's very, like, corporate and fancy. But then the lab upstairs just looks something out of a Batman movie.
00:46:56
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:47:01
Speaker
ah But ah the shootout is pretty good. Like when it finally kicks off and you see Ethan be pretty much being like every John Woo like heroic shooter character.
00:47:14
Speaker
It's awesome. It kind of makes me forget that like it's not a spy drama. it's it And then like Ethan somehow like got really good as a martial artist and gankata guy.
00:47:28
Speaker
Like he's doing posing. Ethan does way more gun posing than I've ever seen in the series. He's doing a spin and he play point like turning backwards and like shooting backwards and like ah flipping over like a bullet coming at him and then shooting the guy that shot at him in the air. Yeah, this this is what I'm talking about. It's more like he's a superhero character than like a realistic spy.
00:47:51
Speaker
Yes. um Again, for it, if every movie was escalating to something crazy and not grounded and Ethan doesn't get hurt. Because I think the only time Ethan gets hurt is when he gets cut on the face.
00:48:07
Speaker
The rest of the time, you never see it. Yeah. I think like even in the series, he normally doesn't get hurt in the face. And he he definitely does not fight like this at all ever again in the series.
00:48:22
Speaker
He's fighting like a street fighter character. Yeah, like normal kind normal yeah like normal like brawling style. Brawling, kind of like basic Krav Maga. Things that you can probably use in a real fight that would not put you in vulnerable neck positions where you're doing like front flips or gymnastics.
00:48:45
Speaker
Um... Again, fine if this was, like, a not Mission Impossible movie. But when you think about, like, what has been going on so far, and then, like... Can you imagine in the Brian De Palma version, Ethan just does, like, a front flip kick, like, on John Voight? A Guile flash kick?
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah. Just, like, an uppercut to the face, and then with his foot.
00:49:13
Speaker
Uh... Yeah, no, I definitely, didn't like, noticed that when I was a kid watching this in the theater. Just kind of like, huh. Did he just unlock, like, new abilities? Like, did he upgrade? What did he, like, spec him?
00:49:26
Speaker
He was just playing a bunch of Street Fighter. Like, I could do those moves. It would have been funny if, instead of the rock climbing, he played, like, arcade games. And that's what required him to, like, have, like, a new fight style.
00:49:38
Speaker
Mm-hmm. um Because he never, like, okay, another thing of, like, callbacks, he doesn't use his rock climbing ability for anything. Oh my god, yeah. Can you imagine at the end there was, like, a cliff face-off where they're just, like, on a cliff edge and they're climbing up or something, or there's, uh, I don't know, exploding sunglasses he throws at him.
Combat Skills and Stealth
00:50:03
Speaker
And he's able to, like, he can do a one-armed dangle and then Ambrose can't. He's like, yeah. And then it's like, Andy Hopkins can't really help, but he can send another like rocket sunglasses his way.
00:50:15
Speaker
So like that's what helps in the end. Oh my god, that'd be great. They they like drop like a satellite rocket sunglasses bomb and like kill Ambrose with that. It sounds stupid, I know, but it would be awesome.
00:50:30
Speaker
like you get the lot of you like Considering but everything else that happens is in this movie, that would make perfect sense. It would be fine. It's like, You can even have, like, Naya do it. shes She even grabs the rocket thing and just shoots it at him.
00:50:44
Speaker
Or you can have Billy, like, I don't know, like, scoop it up and then, like, give it to Naya. You know, you could make it, like, a team effort. Or, like, yeah, like, the sunglasses that are about to explode, like, Ethan's just like, accept this and throws it at him.
00:51:00
Speaker
See, you what you get it. Because don't forget, like, Ambrose is also an MIA, like, IMF. Former IMF, yeah. But it's like, wouldn't they just send things that would blow up into his house to get him?
00:51:14
Speaker
I mean, they have, they I think IMF has their own satellite that was using, like, spy on them. So i'm sure I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure Anthony Hopkins could call in some sort of drone strike or missile strike to blow up ah built that house.
00:51:28
Speaker
I don't understand why they don't just send a sh strike to you. Like, they sent one for Ethan where they he thought he went rogue. And he was just like in Russia or whatever he was. Maybe Anthony Hopkins is rogue, this whole thing.
00:51:42
Speaker
Because he's not the director Mr. Russell 3, so they're like, but we got We had to get rid of that crazy Anthony Hopkins rogue director. That one year where we let like an eccentric billionaire run the IMF.
00:51:56
Speaker
Out of his mansion, it's like ah Hacienda in Seville, Spain.
00:52:05
Speaker
But the sequence is... Anthony Hopkins too, like he wanted he wanted like an like an actual sample of Chimera. like He's like, bring us back a sample of Chimera. So, I mean, what what was going to do with that?
00:52:18
Speaker
It would have been cool if they hinted that he was also, like, secretly, like, a villain. A crazy super villain. Because his, like, appearance is just, like, what you think, like, a bad guy would do. Like, hang out by a fire and then talk about, like, mythical beast.
00:52:36
Speaker
that's That's like bad guy talk. That's your boss talking? Ethan, you're working for the bad guy. I think like a year or two after this was Hannibal. So i mean yeah think I was kind of like i'm sure getting ready and to go like back into full-on Hannibal mode.
00:52:48
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, he's fine. I liked him in this. like I like Anthony Hopkins in this like role. It's funny to think that he's just this IMF director, which every movie, new director, doesn't matter. or so They keep mentioning the secretary, and then I think only one movie we actually meet the secretary.
00:53:07
Speaker
but yes It's fun because because Anthony Hopkins was the voice in the first movie, but you never like it was just a vocal cameo. like You never saw him. And then this one, like, oh, yeah, Anthony Hopkins the voice in the first one. Now he's actually here.
00:53:19
Speaker
Wait, he was in the first movie? Just just his voice like the voice, like the tape, the the Mission Impossible tape that Ethan listens to in the first movie. Anthony Hopkins is reading it. you don't see him, you just hear his voice?
00:53:32
Speaker
Wait, so the director also has to make the note? I guess so, yeah. I i think that yeah did they do, because I think all the tapes were like... Whoever was in the other movies, they like record like the the mission briefing.
00:53:51
Speaker
I don't know. I gotta check again. I remember Lawrence Fishburk making one.
00:53:57
Speaker
Maybe after Anthony Hopkins retired or whatever happened to him, they're well, we used to have a go-to guy. We used to voiceover guy that does all the tapes now. That's what I'm thinking. It just seems crazy that the director has to sit there and give Ethan personalized messages. He only does it for Ethan? Mm-hmm.
00:54:21
Speaker
I didn't know about the first movie.
00:54:24
Speaker
Yeah, though it's a very... it's ah i mean it's a very yeah You kind have to like look up trivia or kind of like like really no like you have to like recognize Ednavon's voice, because it's a tiny part of that first movie. But is it is kind of it's funny that it gets played out for this, where it's like he actually shows up a person.
00:54:42
Speaker
But yeah, let let let's let's talk about the finale, which is just absolute batshit insanity. Oh, like and a more departure of like what's been going on here?
00:54:53
Speaker
Okay, so at least in the shootout, they do that John Woo signatures thing where like the villain and hero will take a break just to have dialogue. A conversation. A conversation in a gunfight.
00:55:05
Speaker
Everyone kind of waits for like the key word to like start firing on each other. like You know what I mean? It's just like, alright, he said something we didn't like. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Or it's like, oh, are we wait what what are we waiting for?
00:55:18
Speaker
And then it's like, all right, keep firing, like command, like, you know, in this, in the end, it's just all out. Like just kill Ethan and get back the vial. Like that's everyone understands that mission.
00:55:32
Speaker
um But it, and Again, we mentioned early in the and the podcast about this where, like, the structure of this whole layout just screams perfect villain lair.
00:55:44
Speaker
But we don't know that the villain doesn't own this. This is just something that you can just take over in Australia. yeah And then yeah um it it looks sinister already. Like, you thought the lab was bad? Like, this looks like a nuclear silo for, like, a Russian like movie. like ah like yeah they yeah Yeah, it definitely has, like, Soviet vibes. Like, this was, like, an ah abandoned, like, nuclear bunker or something.
00:56:06
Speaker
but's But it's like off the coast of Sydney, Australia. Yeah, like, what?
00:56:14
Speaker
So, in this scene, like they're they're doing the the big drug trade between, get or the big trade-off between yeah Ambrose and McCoy. Yeah, McCoy, which I don't think they gave him a first name. In the IMDb, they just called now McCoy.
00:56:34
Speaker
and then And then Ambrose changes the deal where he wants stock options now because he's... Naya got infected herself to keep herself alive and protect Ethan. and But then ah Ambrose drops her off in the middle of Sydney because she's about to get... like ah you You have 20 hours before the infection starts and then once after 20 hours, there's no turning back. It's like infectious.
00:57:00
Speaker
So they dump her in the middle of Sydney like and be like, You're going affect everybody, and then they'll make the the cost of the cure go way up. So they might they want stock options in bio sites.
00:57:14
Speaker
But here's the crazy thing. Did Ambrose ambrose like make ah duplicate of the cure to give to his men?
00:57:26
Speaker
they're going to make the they're gonna make deal just leave while Australia be like, fuck them, we're go here we're not going back to Australia. It's a wasteland now. Some of his meant men are locals, or or at least live in the country, so it's like, oh no, you basically made like a viral bomb, and then you only show in the public, and then it's just going to infect the island.
00:57:49
Speaker
And then there's like, they think about the consequence. Like, what if she fell into like drinking water? And if it spread, if it spreads and, ah you know, starts going to other places, they they've they've basically caused like a global, like a global pandemic, like apocalypse.
00:58:06
Speaker
Yeah. And then, like, at least if they made the cure and they were, like, safe, and then it's just, like, a very controlled thing, a very, um... Well, I guess... The bad guys had a bigger plan about this.
00:58:19
Speaker
Yeah, i guess well I guess their plan is they're gonna manufacture more of the cure, because they have that they have like have a vial of Nia's blood, which has the Chimera in it, and they have, like, the vial of Bellerophon, which is the cure.
00:58:30
Speaker
But sort have but little but like Ambrose didn't mention, like okay, we're all inoculated. you know like we We are fine if the virus gets loose. Oh, yeah. They're going to worry about the money first, then it's like... and and then go make so go make the cure now.
00:58:47
Speaker
it like What's stopping Nyla from just spitting in their food? Or like touching them? you know like She's like a walking viral bomb. so it's like I know like you have the 20 hours until you're basically like at a at a like no coming back state.
00:59:04
Speaker
But we don't hear, like what about like um leading up to that?
00:59:09
Speaker
Well, i I think, because Doctor gets on a plane, and he's like, you need to find me within 20 hours. So I think you have 20 hours where you're not infectious, then after 20 hours, it kicks in, and then you deteriorate quickly and start spreading the virus.
00:59:27
Speaker
Do we even see ah like a video of what it looks like when you're at the no return point? Yeah, there's there's ah they get ah they steal the like SD card drop because like um Ambrose has an SD card that I think they stole from Biosight. they have biosight that's He's showing Brendan Gleeson that at the racetrack.
00:59:46
Speaker
is It's like, oh, I have evidence that you you guys created this virus. And then Ethan looks at it, and it kind of shows the virus like going into someone's body. And it's the doctor's partner that died before he got infected. It shows like him deteriorating. I think it's like 34 hours later, he's just like his entire face is bleeding.
01:00:08
Speaker
forgot I feel like at the end of this thing, the bad guy, like someone on the bad guy's side should have been like melting from the virus. Yeah, there should have been thing, like, it should it have been, so like, The Rock or something, where someone gets infected and then they have to get locked in a room, or, like, Ambrose gets infected with it and, like, instantly dies or something.
01:00:26
Speaker
and it's like, oh, like, Ethan pushes him down, like, a secure vault and locks him in.
01:00:33
Speaker
Or, like, at the big fight at the end, like, Ethan's, like, looked down is like, inject you with Nihil's blood.
01:00:40
Speaker
and Enjoy Chimera. Yeah. You're the three-headed beast.
01:00:47
Speaker
ah so the but Again, the the there's a lot of flashy infiltration that is totally out of the normal Ethan Hunt character. Yeah, Ethan's sneaking into this bunker base, and he's taking out random guards, and he's doing... He does this unarmed. It's not like he's got arms, some sort of super tech, or spy equipment. He's just running up to people and punching them.
01:01:14
Speaker
Yeah, doing flying kicks. He's doing somersault kicks. but Yeah, crazy fighting game martial arts moves on these guys. If you made a video game stealth level and you use the these moves, people would be having questions.
01:01:31
Speaker
Like, okay, well, I enjoyed this Max Payne game, but then at the end, like there's a part where Max Payne starts doing like front flips and he is doing some pre-parkour moves.
01:01:43
Speaker
he does He does do a little bit, like, i feel like there's a little, like, splinter cell in there, but he hangs from the ceiling, and they like but he, like, grabs that one guy between his legs and like, snaps his neck with his legs. He doesn't snap his neck. He, but like, twists him around, and then he punches him more. Like, he doesn't kill him. Oh, yeah.
01:01:59
Speaker
Is that the guy where he does, like, he does, like, the yeah like flip, and then lands, like, does, like, a leg drop on him? Nope, that's another guy. Okay, yeah. There's like four guys he takes out in this.
01:02:09
Speaker
One of them is the mountaintop where he does the front flip and he like crushes his chest and then kicks him off and then yeah supposedly believing he might have fallen off the cliff. There's the guy that he takes out by doing the pipe dangle at his knees and he like kind of twists his neck around but then doesn't kill him so he keeps punching him in like the chest so he blacks out.
01:02:32
Speaker
There's the guy that ah Ethan does the...
01:02:37
Speaker
does the like punch and talk thing where it's like Ethan is on the comms with Finn Rang but he's also like punching this dude in the doorway.
01:02:48
Speaker
Then comes the flying front kick. ye I know. This this moment is like seared into like my adolescent brain. This was pretty cool. um I forget that like this is not a spy movie. like At this point, the spying is over.
01:03:03
Speaker
It's just like a straight up like action movie. And then the the birds are foot in full effect now for John Woo 2. Okay, so they the reason why there's birds is because whatever building this was, I guess, like, houses, like, birds?
01:03:19
Speaker
Dogs and pigeons? there's There's, like, a ton of pigeons and one dove. Okay, so in the scene where Ethan then blows up the door and does the badass, like, I'm here scene, there's this one dove that, like, is super imposed and you can see the graphics and it has, like, a golden outline on it. yep It's like, this is, like, a godly dove. I was like, don't, oh my god. You know, i was like, there's something about special effects when you, like, make it too, like, corny, just sort of takes you out, but
01:03:53
Speaker
In the original, like, John Woo films, whenever they used doves, they just threw a bird in the screen. Yep. And just, like, slow-moed it. And then that was it. It's like, yeah, and but they didn't set, like, a ring on fire and then throw the bird, because I feel like that's too much, but... A simple dove, just coming in and out would have been fine, but they really upped it for this one. It's like... It's a magic dove.
01:04:15
Speaker
It's... Yeah. And then, like... It's not like a dove was introduced in the beginning of the movie and then the end they kind tied all together. Or or maybe like Ethan keeps doves and that's like his messaging system.
01:04:29
Speaker
Nope. just Yeah, just this this one dove took a particular liking to Ethan at this base. like him Yeah, because almost blows his cover.
01:04:40
Speaker
but does It does blow his cover when he's like trying to hide from Richard Roxborough and but then it like he like goes back um where Ethan's hiding because he hears the dove cooing and they have their big fight. Which I think Ethan does the flash kick to him.
01:04:56
Speaker
Right? Or like the guy I'll flash kick? No, no. He doesn't do the flash kick to him.
01:05:03
Speaker
Definitely but some other type of kick. like definite He definitely does some crazy like kick to him. Yeah, it's another crazy kick, right? But it's not the one that makes basically takes Ethan like upside down and back feet. Yes.
01:05:15
Speaker
um But it doesn't work. like Richard Roxborough like can hold his own, sort of.
01:05:23
Speaker
ah I do like that basically they stop gunfighting for this part. It's just more like a struggle. yeah You think it's going to be like another gunfight, but really, I think the second act is just the big gunfight sequence. The rest is just like running and gun chasing scene, not a shootout.
01:05:43
Speaker
Not classic shootout. Shootouts on motorcycles later. you know, I haven't really seen it, but this does remind me later on for Gemini Man. Okay.
01:05:54
Speaker
Didn't he also have, like, a motorcycle gun shootout scene?
01:06:00
Speaker
Uh... Man, I've... Yeah, I saw that movie once and don't really remember most of it. i remember from, like, the trailers and stuff. So, like... I guess John Woo did take a lesson from this and then used some of it again.
01:06:12
Speaker
i I got a lot of torque. like I feel like torque saw this movie and was like, oh yeah, let's do that. But it's like to the like and even more insane degree.
01:06:23
Speaker
Well, this is the era of like...
01:06:27
Speaker
Like motorcycles. Motorcycles that aren't Harleys. Yeah, like street street bikes. like Yeah, street bikes. I like how during this time, like...
01:06:39
Speaker
We're still few years off from Fast and the Furious, but... Yeah, i think the first Fast the Furious was like the next year after this. So... It's funny to think that Ethan was like... Well, Ethan grabbed someone's motorcycle.
01:06:53
Speaker
That wasn't like, I brought this. He has the motorcycle of the guy that fli shoots him while he's flying on over top of him. Which is what bully holds in the motorcycle. Yeah, he doesn't he hit the motorcycle. He just hits the ah the guy driving the motorcycle.
01:07:10
Speaker
But think we do have to mention, so like, the Richard Roxborough, like, Ethan fight, it ends and it's like, oh no, like, Ethan got defeated. being dragged into this meeting by Richard Roxborough, but then we get the bigger, that's like the big mask reveal where Ethan, but like we said before, like he somehow had a Richard Roxborough mask and voicing ready to go.
Key Twists and Climactic Showdown
01:07:32
Speaker
And then he put Richard Roxborough in a Ethan mask and like take this mouth shut. So then like Ambrose kills Ethan, quote unquote, but it's actually like his, his, his main bodyguard or a henchman, Richard Roxborough.
01:07:45
Speaker
And then Ethan, we get the shot like Ethan running out, ripping off the mask. He's got the, he's got both vials of, he's got the chimera and the ah cure.
01:07:54
Speaker
It's funny to think that in the poster of Vision Impossible 2, at least in the classic one, he's wearing Richard's clothes. Yeah. but The jacket that everyone associates with like him is actually just Richard's.
01:08:09
Speaker
Yeah, see he He swapped clothes, and that's who he wears for the rest of the movie. But he swapped clothes, and then also he put on his gun hoisters and pants? Yeah, ethan Ethan is fully committed to when he goes undercover as another person.
01:08:26
Speaker
Yeah, because you think at the end he's wearing like the right tactical gear. He switches that out for everything for the other guy. so Everything that sequence that you think is associated where it's like, okay, Ethan's wearing this badass like gun holster, he's wearing all black, it's all fitted. He's got his cool sunglasses.
01:08:46
Speaker
That's not his, is it? Yep. i I think he just found those sunglasses, like, lying on the like ground. He's like, oh, I need these. i need tactical sunglasses for this motorcycle chase.
01:08:58
Speaker
I forgot that. It's funny that they put the poster in that, like, this outfit he wears as, like, the main poster. I definitely remember looking at that poster going, wow, they really upped the ante from Mission Impossible 1, which is, like, the silhouette of his head to, like, a flaming background orange Tom Cruise.
01:09:16
Speaker
yep I think even... um I saw like the the the new remastered poster. it's like It's Mission Impossible 2 on a black image.
01:09:28
Speaker
mean, on a red image. And then tiny motorcycle riding Ethan Hunt. Yeah, I think those are the new Paramount Plus like posters. Because all the Mission Impossible movies are on Paramount Plus.
01:09:41
Speaker
all the like yeah I think everything up to... like ah Dead Reckoning has like it's like a yeah it's a new like orange like a red and black kind of stylized poster for every each movie but I'm not a fan of that I don't like it it just doesn't feel cinematic it just feels like um it looks like a like a minimalist like cereal box like commercial like Mission Impossible it's like yeah it's like how McDonald's is all just corporate there's no there's no personality anymore
01:10:16
Speaker
But yeah, this Morotoken Chase, crazy. He's just doing all kinds of slides. He's like... He doesn't quite get to yeah like like its like torque levels.
01:10:27
Speaker
You kind of almost expect him to do like the torque, like dueling each other on the bikes, like having a fight basically on bikes. But it does lead to the crazy Ethan and Ambrose are on bikes and like ride at each other and then jump off their bikes and hit each other midair and their bikes explode.
01:10:47
Speaker
Which, I think people analyzed that into like the the speed they were going, they were probably like just like both destroying their insides. like They didn't have like like crushed organs and like massive material injuries. Yeah.
01:11:00
Speaker
Yeah, ah it's cool looking, but unless one of them, like, unless they're on super soldierlar soldier serum, like, I don't know. It is a very weird, like, fight sequence. fact, both them should be on the ground, like, like, writhing in pain, and whoever gets a stand-up wins the fight.
01:11:21
Speaker
yeah but Yeah, they should have both been like, oh god, what did we just do? We could barely move. Or it's like, Ambrose is like, ah, Ethan, I knew you would do that, so like that's why I did it. like You know, because it's like he could read his every move.
01:11:38
Speaker
um It'd also been fun if like, Ambrose can also fight like Ethan. He also has his own... You don't know that until this fight where he can do his own like flash kicks and and like fancy maneuvers.
01:11:50
Speaker
He doesn't! Yeah, that's the weird thing. We've seen Ethan do all these like crazy like yeah flash kicks, and and then but then their fight is pretty straightforward. like There's not any really crazy moves in that fight.
01:12:04
Speaker
i would have liked it if... Like Ethan mentioned in the fight, it's like, I only fought like this because like you can't mimic me. It's like, you know, it's something that I have to fight like like a different person.
01:12:19
Speaker
Double this. Yeah. I mean, he completely... That fight has a crazy... Like one... like like What's called? Where it's like... the like recharge where Ethan like gets like focus and he's able to basically be unstoppable. Yeah.
01:12:37
Speaker
yeah Cause he, cause he almost gets, there's a point where he's on the ground and Ambrose is like jamming a knife into his eye. um and then Ethan manages to get him off. And then yeah. and Yeah. Ethan gets to like, like recharges or like resteners himself and just goes like crazy combo and like, like,
01:12:57
Speaker
like, dozens of punches and kicks onto Ambrose and knocks him down, and like, oh, did he just kill him? Like, he kind of, like, because Ambrose goes flying around is, like, he looks like he's dead from this, like, combo that Ethan, like, landed on him.
01:13:10
Speaker
But then he, uh, he gets up, he's like, he has a gun, and then we get a crazy... i feel I feel like Michael Bay saw this move was like, oh, I need to do that for Bad Boys 2. Because it's basically the same move where Ethan's standing over his gun, it's in the sand, he stomps on it and it, and it flies up in the air.
01:13:29
Speaker
it does. Crazy. I don't know how in physics this happens. He does a a full like like horizontal spit like flip and shoots ah Ambrose while he's in the air flipping.
01:13:44
Speaker
No, I think he like rolls on the ground and shoots him.
01:13:48
Speaker
but he gets He gets the gun, and that but then he yeah he like Because Ambrose shoots at him, and it's almost like like Ethan like flips in the air to dodge the bullet, and then he does like a full like body roll to like fly fly over the bullet, and then he shoots Ambrose.
01:14:04
Speaker
That's true. Yeah, that that part is... That's how it happens, and it's ridiculous, because one, guns... It wouldn't work that way Like, Ambrose pretty much had to, like, shoot at him than just, like, he would, he would, he's, like, more advantaged to get Ethan before Ethan has time to do all those, like, aerial stunts to, like, shoot back.
01:14:29
Speaker
Yeah. It is pretty funny to think that Ambrose, like, well, also you have to assume that Ambrose also has, like, a massive brain injury. Yes. Mm-hmm. Because he was he was he was he was, like, yeah, kind of unconscious a little bit, like a minute or two ago from getting beaten down. Yeah, beaten down, and then also just, like, I don't know, bleeding from the internal injuries we mentioned earlier.
01:15:01
Speaker
But, uh... Yeah, but yeah, Ethan manages to kill him. They get Naya the Bellerophon just in time. And it kills Chimera. There's no Chimera left in the world, apparently, hopefully. because the latest Everyone who knows how to make it is gone.
01:15:17
Speaker
Yes. And they just have the cure. Like, that's all they have. Well, did they also use, like, the last known cure? Because, like, there's, like, only one vial to cure.
01:15:28
Speaker
i think there was only ever one thing on the cure. Oh. But you see, that she seems terrible for, you know, that seems terrible among the, like, what Ambrose's plan is. land Yeah.
01:15:41
Speaker
Well, he he was like, well, we're going to own the company, and and um but then we're going manufacture more of the cure, and then we'll sell it to everyone who's, like, dying of chimera after they get infected.
01:15:54
Speaker
And then our stock prices will go through the roof, because we'll be the only source of Bellerophon.
01:16:08
Speaker
But you at least at least we kind of knew we know like what Chimera and Blairafond are. so The third one, the whole thing with like Rabbit's Foot, where you never find out what Rabbit's Foot is.
01:16:20
Speaker
It's just like this like weird device that Ethan picks up, but you don't know if it's a bomb, you don't know if it's like a chemical weapon. Again, I think it's because like viruses are pretty much easy to understand like 2000s language, but then...
01:16:39
Speaker
Rabbit's Foot was like a list? Well, the first one was list. Just list of all the agents. Yeah, three was Rabbit's Foot that Philip Schroffman wanted, but they never said Rabbit's Foot three was rabbit's foot they philip sure hoffen wanted but they never really they never said what rabbit's foot was
01:16:59
Speaker
And then i I feel like they kind of got away from, like, MacGuffins until, like, mean, Dead Reckoning Final Reckoning has, like, the craziest MacGuffins of the jeweled keys that unlock the Soviet submarine that has the entity's brain in it.
Plot Simplicity and Soundtrack Discussion
01:17:18
Speaker
But, like, you know, like, Road Nation and Fallout kind of, like, were, like, We used to have nukes. People have nukes that are going to blow the world. Yeah, we understand nukes. We understand like super-powered bombs.
01:17:32
Speaker
i do I do like there's a scene in 2 where Ethan's... I think it's like an almost like an hour in. It's like um right before they break into the Biosite where Ethan's like...
01:17:43
Speaker
Chimera's a comemer ah virus and Bellerophon's the cure. And then they're just like, it's that easy? It's good that like it's in the same place. It's not like another company made something or it's like two different locations.
01:17:55
Speaker
but it's just it's It's funny, it takes them like half the movie to like kind of figure out this pretty simple like idea. It's like, oh, this doctor who was a like biology like virologist um like made there's two things one of them is like ah a mythical monster one's the hero that kills the monster and it's like oh it's like it's a virus and a cure it's also weird that the guy who made it is like not Greek he's like Russian but in russia yeah Russian like monster lore it's just alright hey Blair Phan and Chimera they sound cool right it's Baba Yaga
01:18:39
Speaker
Yeah, it should have been the Baba Yaga. But then what kills the Baba Yaga? think like riddles.
01:18:55
Speaker
But ah yeah, anything else about Ish-bots Hukuras? The soundtrack was unbelievably popular. ah but Definitely the Limp Bizkit version of the War is crazy.
01:19:09
Speaker
Take a look around. like like this This is like the only Mission Impossible movie that has like actual like soundtrack songs, I feel like. Yeah, everything else is like just musical scores. and and like because also This also had Metallica, like I Disappear, which is like the first song Metallica ever made for a movie.
01:19:30
Speaker
Again, it's weird to think that that's in this movie. I mean, it's a grand production. I don't mind it, because... again it's It's a fun
John Woo's Influence and Impact
01:19:38
Speaker
movie on its own, but when you put it in the series of movies, it just stands out so weird.
01:19:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's the tonally, it's so different. Like, Ethan feels like a completely different character than the rest of the series that you you see him in ah yeah The action is bonkers. Yeah, it definitely is like the like like black sheep of the Mission Impossible family.
01:20:02
Speaker
It's not bad, again. no It's like ah entertaining. Yeah, it's entertaining. It's fun. But, like like it's it's definite like, compared the other Mission Impossible movies, like, if you're ranking them all, like, this is definitely the weakest one.
01:20:16
Speaker
Just as, like, in the ranking of Mission Impossible movies.
01:20:21
Speaker
i mean, at the time, if you grew up, this isn't your first Mission Impossible movie. It's like, what a crazy entry. And John Woo definitely made, like, worst movies. Like, I think, did he make Paycheck right after this?
01:20:39
Speaker
No, Paycheck was like four years later. Okay. just went back to Hong Kong because he did okay in this movie. I think like it just didn't help his branding because some people just didn't get like the Hong Kong action in this.
01:20:54
Speaker
Yeah. Which is like what he did right after this. he like did He did Windtalkers. Yes, okay. So like it wasn't a good follow-up for Mission Impossible.
01:21:05
Speaker
It was like a fun... you know, entry for him. I know Windtalkers later on got more. Again, later, Windtalkers also the same thing where, like, the last act is, like, bonkers compared to the beginning of Windtalkers.
01:21:17
Speaker
Yeah, Windtalkers and Paycheck were, like, the last two he made for, like, American, ah like, Hollywood.
01:21:26
Speaker
Until, you know, recently when he came kind of kind came back and made, like, Silent Night and ah remade The Killer.
01:21:35
Speaker
And then, yeah, he just went back to like doing Asia Cinema for like 12 years after. and and this And this was also like the highest grossing movie of 2000. This was like this was like a ah massive hit.
01:21:54
Speaker
it just It just got like mixed mixed response. like And then everyone saw like the like the rest the Mission Impossible series were like, oh yeah, that one's weird.
01:22:06
Speaker
ah Though, it's like, what? Like, Hard Target, his, like, really big American blockbuster entry. Well, Face-Off was a movie he made it before this, so.
01:22:19
Speaker
I know, but let's say Hard Target. If you think about Hard Target, Broken Arrow, and Face-Off, it's like yeahp non-stop great movies that pretty much you understand as tone and message. Yeah. But, yeah, Mission Impossible 2, just because the first act, I think.
01:22:34
Speaker
like I
Speculations and Recommendations
01:22:35
Speaker
can't tell if he was forced to like include more human drama or he wanted like more set pieces.
01:22:43
Speaker
i feel I feel like he... I feel like John Woo was into like the ah character drama, like love triangle, that kind of like a trap mitt. You know what that feels like? That feels like a... Who's the guy that did the Hulk?
01:23:00
Speaker
Oh, Ang Lee. Ang Lee, right? Doesn't the beginning feel like an Ang Lee movie? cut Yeah.
01:23:10
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely, definitely feels like it doesn't even, if he's trying to emulate like entrapment or like Tom's counter affair or something, like there's even like a heist or like a mini heist in the in the first hour to kind of like break things up.
01:23:24
Speaker
It's just,
01:23:27
Speaker
yeah, Nia has to like be undercover with Ambrose and Ethan is just like watch, like, watch from like a computer screen and brood on like an outback sheep farm that looks like Mars.
01:23:43
Speaker
Oh, I will say one last thing before we go is that ah probably the best thing that that came out of this movie is the MTV v Awards clip it with Ben Stiller. If anybody hasn't seen that, like go Google that. like Mission Impossible Ben Stiller.
01:23:57
Speaker
where it's Because Ben Stiller plays Tom Cruise's stunt double and it's it's like hilarious. John Woo has cameo in it. It's great.
01:24:08
Speaker
Ben Stiller is basically like, oh, I did all stunts in Mission Impossible 2.
01:24:14
Speaker
I mean, it's the holds up as like a joke. Yeah. I think, i think even like, I remember he's like, why are there so many kicks? we should call it kicking if impossible. And then forget. I forget. We says John was like, no, we're not doing that.
01:24:33
Speaker
So yeah, go, go seek that out. And yeah, hopefully, hopefully the final reckoning is a, a great close to the, the franchise. Yeah. and We'll have to see if any Mission Impossible 2 things pop up.
01:24:50
Speaker
Like if... ah Throw back to like the motorcycle chase, or if Ethan pulls out... Maybe Ethan will pull out one of his old Mission Impossible 2 fighting moves. I really want him to do another corkscrew kick.
01:25:04
Speaker
it's it's It's how he defeats ah like a Cyber Alice. He does like a flash kick to him. Or like...
01:25:11
Speaker
Ethan has to, like, enter the, like, AI, like, a Matrix thing. oh my god, yes. And then it brings back why... It's virtual, yep. Yeah, and they used to do, like, the dual-wielding Berettas and all that.
01:25:22
Speaker
It, like, makes sense in that version of the movie. just go full Let's go for, like, full Street Fighter. He can do, like, Hadoukens and stuff now. Yeah, he's just doing it digitally. Mm-hmm.
01:25:35
Speaker
I don't know. we'll We'll find out. uh... Come back next week. ah We're going be diving into... kind Speaking of... it It's not really heist, but I guess like there's like some con-oders undercover stuff.
01:25:50
Speaker
going to be talking about Fletch, the Chevy Chase classic. Because that is celebrating an anniversary next week. so I don't um don't think he uses masks, but he uses like he has a lot of disguises and costumes that he uses to uncover the mystery of what he of his investigation.
01:26:07
Speaker
no No flash kicks or anything, but... but we'll We'll dive into all that next week. And head over to all of our usual stuff. We got news, reviews, trailers. I think because Mission Impossible Final Reckoning is coming out, there's like a ton of new big trailers. There's like a new Jurassic World Rebirth trailer and a couple other big trailers on the site can check out.
01:26:27
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And we we're going to have our PAX East article up soon, so you can ah check out everything we saw in Boston recently, video game-wise.
01:26:37
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and
01:26:40
Speaker
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01:27:01
Speaker
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