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“28 Years Later” Review: Teletubbies, Zombies & The End of Cinema?
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We're back and blazing! Jo and Amelie dive into 28 Years Later, the surprise sequel that mashes up VR porn, zombie absurdity, and British quarantine vibes—with a Teletubby cameo to boot. Is it a horror? A comedy? Or just a really expensive “save mommy” mission? Plus, we debate fast zombies vs. slow, get nostalgic about 90s cinema, dunk on 28 Weeks Later, and ask the real question: is streaming killing quality or are we just getting old?
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Intro
00:00:07
Jo
Hey everyone, did you miss this? Well, we're back. That's right, Diamond Dave Lee. Nope, not Dave Lee Roth, but Joe and Emily, back from London. That's right, motherfuckers. We are back and we've got the fucking heat today. Today we're taking a small very break to go into 28 years later, or the way I like to call it, 28 months or something like that. I don't know in the movie.
00:00:29
Jo
So, Emily, how are you?
00:00:31
Amelie
I'm good. I'm good.
00:00:33
Jo
You look amazing as always. And today, this is my voice.
00:00:37
Amelie
Thank you.
00:00:40
Jo
Thank you, man. I didn't do anything about it. just said how high the way you look. That's awesome. Yes, today on Streaming Demons, we still comment on people's looks. It's a weird concept for Gen Z, I know. It's not body shaming.
00:00:52
Jo
I don't know. I can't. We were talking a bit about VR porn today.
00:00:58
Amelie
Yes, correct.
00:00:59
Jo
And we do believe this is the end of the human race because why have human connection when you don't need
00:01:06
Amelie
Correct. Yes, you're right. And that's the kind of subject who is discurting many, many movies, just like brade bla Blade Runner with fake hologram girlfriend who can be everything you want, a good cook, a pinup, a dancer,
00:01:15
Jo
they Blade Runner.
00:01:23
Jo
Oh, God.
00:01:26
Amelie
and she everything you ever want and a lot unique just have to buy a subscription and different can't happen stuff
00:01:32
Jo
I think we're almost there. the The VR augmented AR with sex like real, and it's like a plug for for free, I guess, is so beyond amazing by the AI.
00:01:44
Jo
Every once a while you get a dud, but goddammit, man. It's like the 8K stuff just fucks my monkey brain up. I'll have to admit, man. It's hard. It's difficult. It's difficult being in this day and age.
00:01:59
Jo
this actually does segue to something. The movie 28 years later, Danny Boyle directed it, Alex Garland written it, Jodie Comer, Aaron Taylor-Johnson, and Ralph Fiennes are all in it.
00:02:11
Jo
I saw this in the theater yesterday. Because yesterday, all I ate was popcorn, I think.
00:02:19
Amelie
Was it good?
00:02:21
Jo
and Not bad. The popcorn was great. The movie was funny, though. You've seen the original. Have you seen 28 Later?
00:02:27
Amelie
Yes, I did.
00:02:29
Jo
Okay, so that was one of the things I was, i'm going to name drop my ass out of this. I was with Mike Martinez and Nick Graff. And yes, if you've seen Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures, whatever the fuck it's called, you probably know these names.
00:02:42
Jo
We're in David Schmoller's class. If you ever saw Puppet Master and Taurus Trap, I believe, you know these names. And this is when that movie was coming out, when we're all together.
00:02:55
Jo
and I was like, Danny, they did a fucking digital video on a theatrical? Because we were looking at movies making out of DVs. But we never thought it could be a theatrical release.
00:03:07
Jo
And 28 days later, prove like, holy shit, A, yes, you can. And that cuts out a fuckton of the budget for indies. And B, it can be so successful. It could spawn a franchise.
00:03:21
Jo
So when you see 28 Days Later, it's the zombies, it' the quick zombies, right? The rage, like, quick zombies. Now, before then, do you remember any zombie movies where they ran quickly?
00:03:36
Amelie
Zombie movies tend to watch like, for example, very old black and white movies with zombie attacks, this kind of thing.
00:03:41
Jo
to
00:03:43
Amelie
From my generation, the most popular zombie movies we have is of course the series with the sheriff, Walking Dead.
00:03:52
Jo
Oh, walking down. Oh, that's right. You're slightly younger than me. Slightly. You're a lot younger than me. Okay, yeah.
00:03:59
Amelie
I'm 15 years younger than you.
00:04:01
Amelie
So, you're Gen X and i I'm millennial. So you are the end of Gen X or the middle, let's say.
00:04:01
Jo
Oh, fuck me.
00:04:11
Jo
Middle issue.
00:04:11
Amelie
And i yeah the second generation of je of millennials because there is the 80s and the 90s.
00:04:12
Jo
Yeah,
00:04:16
Jo
you hit towards the end.
00:04:19
Amelie
I'm a 90-90 baby. I never know communism. And Europe is a good thing, they say to us when we were children.
00:04:27
Jo
Okay, USA. love it. It's true, though. Like, yeah. I forgot sometimes, and especially where you grew up, of course, it would be Walking Dead, right? Okay. So you did have some runners. In Walking Dead, you did have some shamblers, and every once a while, they might skimmy a bit.
00:04:43
Jo
My generation, we grew up on Night of Living Dead. black and white, recolored, whatever it's going to be. And they were shamblistic. I mean, there's a scene in Night Living that the guy's literally just like walking around the fucking zombie. Like, here we go, here we go.
00:04:59
Jo
And later on, Shaun of the Dead, I think they were all kind of like slow runs or slow walkers, right? So this is the absolute... with zombie 28 days later, and then we won't talk about the next movie 28 months or weeks or whatever fuck later. I don't know.
00:05:17
Jo
just saw it again. i was like, whatever. But 28 years later, i have to say, I think it's a comedy. They listed a zombie horror and thriller, but I think it's a fucking comedy.
00:05:29
Amelie
Yeah? Why?
00:05:32
Jo
Okay, without spoilers. i won't i won't spoilers this much. First of all, It is like they're on an island that's not connected to mainland. So it's 20 years, 28 years later.
00:05:43
Jo
So all the UK, I'm guessing just England. I don't think they actually meant like Ireland or something, Northern Ireland and ah Wales, maybe Wales, but it's definitely Scotland and England are quarantined. They couldn't take the zombie outbreak. They couldn't contain it there. So they said, fuck it, we're quarantined here.
00:06:03
Jo
And Europe was successful in their defense. So you you have this quarantine small village 28 years later. And it starts out with these motherfuckers watching Teletubbies.
00:06:17
Jo
Which I found out yesterday from a friend. Hello, Charlotte. That Teletubbies were not just for kids in England. It was for people who went to clubs, came home, and it was the only thing on TV. It was Teletubbies.
00:06:29
Jo
So they would just like veg out semi-altered state of mind, we should say. And watch it fucking Teletubbies. And so that's how it starts out. Like little kids watching VHS tapes of Teletubbies.
00:06:42
Jo
And then shenanigans happen. I won't spoil it. Rhymes with everyone dies. It kind of that happens. So you have all this happening and then it flips forward to someone else entirely.
00:06:55
Jo
And this story is like the coming of age he He's trying to save his sick mom. All these things happen. It does not have to be a zombie movie. Honestly, God, you're watching 28 years later going, why are the zombies even here? like They had a different script, apparently. Just like, oh, fuck it. We'll put zombies in it and make it 28 years later.
00:07:15
Jo
Whatever. So that part doesn't even matter. The main... Act one, act two, and act three, for the most part, don't even fucking matter. It could be any film about trying to save mommy. Mommy is sick.
00:07:29
Jo
Mommy needs MacGuffin, and MacGuffin is a doctor or medicine, whatever fucking is. That's it. That's the entire goddamn film. Except it's not. And I laugh my ass off.
00:07:42
Jo
Parts of this. And I was the only one laughing in the theater. which made me really self-conscious for a minute, but then I didn't give a fuck. So I laughed even more. Because these parts, if you don't tell me that, okay, without spoiling, i I will not spoil this movie. I will not spoil this movie.
00:07:59
Jo
But everyone, you watch 28 years later, you tell me you didn't fucking laugh. There's something wrong with you. Yeah, you could cry. There's touching fucking scenes. But if you didn't laugh at least a couple of these fucking things, there's something fundamentally wrong with you.
00:08:12
Jo
And maybe that's what it is. But is an amazing hour and 40 or hour and 50 minutes, something like that. It's tight. It's much better than the second one.
00:08:25
Jo
Did you watch the second one? 28 months, years, weeks, days later? No, not that what days. 28.
00:08:30
Amelie
I did, i did, but I don't remember the movie.
00:08:34
Jo
That's exactly the point. It was so fucking bad, no one remembers it.
00:08:35
Amelie
I did. you see what I mean?
00:08:38
Jo
Yeah.
00:08:38
Amelie
I don't... 28 days later, yes, I remember, I watched it, I studied it, I love it, it's it's great, it's great.
00:08:42
Jo
Yes.
00:08:46
Jo
Absolutely.
00:08:46
Amelie
I understand why it kind of changed the cinema in a sense, or just changed the cinema, the traditional cinema, right?
00:08:51
Jo
A thousand percent.
00:08:56
Amelie
28 years later, i personally like the idea of 28 days, 28 weeks or months, 28 years later.
00:09:04
Jo
Right.
00:09:05
Amelie
That's interesting because you can think, okay, society got killed and eaten by zombies.
00:09:06
Jo
Me too.
00:09:12
Jo
Yeah.
00:09:12
Amelie
What happened 28 years later?
00:09:14
Jo
Yeah, I love it.
00:09:14
Amelie
Does anyone survive from the old time? What's going on? What kind of society is the idea with the Teletubbies? You have the VHR. Yeah, it's funny, but why not?
00:09:25
Amelie
Like we live nowadays with laptop. and maybe the old computers, the old stuff would still exist, right?
00:09:34
Jo
yeah Eventually, Yeah.
00:09:35
Amelie
We saw that in different movies, you know, voila, it's interesting.
00:09:38
Jo
Put
00:09:38
Amelie
You said you laugh, so did you like it or you were disappointed?
00:09:46
Jo
it this way. i It's really hard to say why I was laughing, but by the end of the movie, at the actual end, I don't know if there's an after credit scene. I didn't fucking say. I laugh in my head. i was like, this has to be the ending. Please, God, may this be the ending of the movie.
00:10:02
Jo
And it was. I'm like, oh, my God, this is fucking brilliant. So it was a act one. Fucking works. And then, honest to God, could have done without act two entirely.
00:10:11
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:10:15
Jo
It's like a basically a training montage. The entirety of act two is basically a training montage. And then you get to act three at the very very end. You're like, holy shit.
00:10:27
Jo
That's the movie. That's the movie I want to see. I want to see 28 days in a day. So 28 years and one day later. That's what I want. That's the movie I fucking want. I would love it. I think Blond Mouse would be a brilliant host to a student for that one.
00:10:41
Jo
But it was a good movie. I mean, the special effects were phenomenal. the acting is you know The acting is great. The written part is generic.
00:10:54
Jo
I hate to bang on this, but it works. But so does every fucking movie about saving mommy. You know? Mommy's sick. Get mommy medicine.
00:11:05
Amelie
you would have maybe like a different synopsis. Like you didn't want to save mommy. You want maybe someone who gets a message from the camp to another or something like that. like
00:11:19
Jo
I think what there's the movie is trying to show is life goes on and, you know, about saying Momento Mori that much, but it's one of those. And it's it's a way to kind of show that 28 years later, a human race does rebuild itself.
00:11:35
Jo
But the weird thing is, I do have a couple of issues with this movie that won't spoil it. The mainland, like, hey, they have UK, which is completely quarantined, but Europe,
00:11:48
Jo
Still has cell phones. So 28 years later, is actually contemporary. ah So you actually have everything that we have. Europe has. United States has.
00:11:58
Jo
Canada. South America has, right? Africa. The only continent. Oh, it's continent. The only country that didn't go anywhere in 28 years is fucking UK. Because they're they're locked away. Whatever they have, they have.
00:12:11
Jo
So you're saying that we have drone warfare now, but apparently it doesn't exist in this fucking world because wouldn't you just like fly drones to kill all the zombies? You would, right? You just like fucking take drones, fly them through the goddamn trees, and kill every fucking zombie and free England.
00:12:33
Jo
Yeah, apparently no one thought of that one this time.
00:12:36
Amelie
They would have done that or they would have bombarded everything and killed everyone. Simply as that, in reality.
00:12:40
Jo
Yeah, and start over. Yeah. Yeah, I think they would fucking destroy it and just like 20 years later be Chernobyl. But yeah, that's so there's some things I just like, oh, come on.
00:12:52
Amelie
and
00:12:53
Jo
Or it's a bit MacGuffin-y. Like, I have to find this one thing that no one really cares about. And the plot itself, you see the first five minutes, you don't get the plot. But the next five minutes after that, you're oh, shit, it's this movie. Okay, never mind.
00:13:07
Jo
You know what's going to happen. You know what the major beats are already. Like, oh, fuck me. So you're just kind of there for the ride. But it it does kind of work. It does kind of work.
00:13:18
Jo
I probably wouldn't watch this again. But I'm glad I saw it in a theater. You know. But that's what it is. We don't give ratings anymore.
00:13:28
Amelie
words
00:13:29
Jo
But yeah.
00:13:30
Amelie
What do you think about was created? Like, for example, I would say the CGI, or for example, they built a complete village made in fake bones and this kind of thing, you know?
00:13:45
Jo
but It's amazing. It really is Everything from the practical to the CGI effects are really well done. The moral implications in movie are troublesome because i am not sure if they meant everything.
00:14:02
Jo
i was having a conversation with someone saying, they you know knowing them, they probably did mean anything. everything but i'm not i'm still not sold on that one i i think there's some well hold on i i talk out of turn actually hold on my bad i agree i think that the moral implications actually are meant but i don't think everyone's going to get that they're meant i don't think that they're even going to get the moral implications i think they're going to root for the wrong side
00:14:36
Jo
And I think this movie is trying to show one thing.
00:14:37
Amelie
Okay. Okay.
00:14:39
Jo
I think people are going to miss it.
00:14:42
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:14:43
Jo
And any criticism they get for the movie, I think is the people who missed the fucking point.
00:14:51
Jo
Yeah. I mean, like I'm saying, the writing itself is smart. That part is smart. The writer's not lazy. It's just I didn't think this was necessarily a 28-day-later sequel.
00:15:07
Jo
It didn't have to be
00:15:11
Jo
for parts of this. i think I think the plot-driven focus kind of weighed it down.
00:15:19
Jo
The characters are all believable. the characters are nice. There's things I really wanted to see more of. But yeah, overall, it really I think people should see it.
00:15:31
Jo
do. I think you if you like 28 Days Later, you will probably like 28 years later. If you like 28 weeks or months, what the fuck that movie was later, you're definitely going to like this movie because you have no taste at all anyways.
00:15:44
Jo
Because no one really liked that fucking middle movie.
00:15:50
Jo
I mean, did you?
00:15:50
Amelie
Are you insinuating I don't have good taste in movies?
00:15:50
Jo
No.
00:15:56
Jo
You said you didn't like the middle movie.
00:15:56
Amelie
Are you insinuating that?
00:15:59
Jo
No, you said you didn't even like 28 Weeks Later. You couldn't remember what about.
00:16:03
Amelie
Yes, 28 weeks later, I don't remember. I don't remember what's about. 28 months.
00:16:07
Jo
That's exactly my point. You don't even remember what the movie's about.
00:16:09
Amelie
Nobody watched it. Nobody watched it. The 28 months, 28 weeks later.
00:16:13
Jo
Yeah, it had...
00:16:14
Amelie
Nobody watched it.
00:16:16
Jo
Jeremy Renner, Rose Bryan, and Robert Carlyle. I mean, it had named stars, but none of the action makes sense. None of the fucking writing makes sense. No one really fucking cared.
00:16:28
Jo
Written by 12 different fucking people. Directed by someone else. It was basically a studio. Let's cash in. And they fucked it up hard. 28 years later, makes it better.
00:16:42
Jo
It goes back to 28 days. Like if you watch 28 days and 28 years later, I think that's the proper way to watch it.
00:16:50
Jo
Yeah.
00:16:50
Amelie
yeah
00:16:51
Jo
But that's about it. That's about it. So any movies you want to see that you haven't so far? Just curious.
00:17:00
Amelie
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00:17:03
Amelie
e boom boom boom boom boom ah will i meet to you no no i didn't see any interesting movie here to watch recently <unk> to you ye there
00:17:15
Jo
well
00:17:16
Amelie
way too much cgi on movies And I'm more interested about series, I will admit it to you, because now people put more and more money on series.
00:17:29
Amelie
Also, you have a better character development in series nowadays. So I'm more interested in what Netflix can develop as series or short movies, you know, or documentary.
00:17:33
Jo
yeah
00:17:41
Amelie
Also, Max, who is offering a lot, you know, Max HBO, who is offering a lot of series and movies and documentary.
00:17:48
Jo
Yeah.
00:17:50
Amelie
So to be honest with you, we were talking about that during one of our podcasts. Cinema gets expensive. When I go to the cinema, it's really for a very specific movie.
00:18:01
Amelie
Like, for example, like a love Quentin Tarantino and I want to see Quentin Tarantino in movie.
00:18:03
Jo
Yeah.
00:18:08
Amelie
My husband and I, we went to see Dune because it's a four-hour movie. It's from a great realisator. Yes, cool. Why not?
00:18:18
Amelie
Right? But nowadays, I look and all I see is, oh, Did you like that movie in the 90s and 80s? We're going to read on it for cinema again.
00:18:31
Jo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:32
Amelie
And i'm like, yeah, no, no, don't do that. I love Islander. i love Islander from the 80s. Great music from Queen.
00:18:43
Amelie
Amazing storyline.
00:18:45
Jo
yeah
00:18:45
Amelie
Yes, it's really funny to see Sean Connery playing a scottish guy a Spanish guy in Scotland and see a French actor. playing a Scottish guy haha he ho ho but I love them number one movie one movie I love it Islander and they're planning on doing a new islander and I'm like no don't there is one movie no
00:19:07
Jo
Another one Yeah, it's weird. Well, there's like three of them right now, i'm chris lampmpert was and
00:19:15
Amelie
Sam in France sending French I'm watching a lot of YouTube video about great great French movies. you know, for example, we there is a lot of articles about Asterix in Egypt.
00:19:30
Amelie
Mission Cleopatra. It's a big, big, big movie with a lot of French actors and it's the best Asterix movie. Like, it's really funny. It's really great.
00:19:42
Amelie
I love it.
00:19:43
Jo
That's cool.
00:19:43
Amelie
The guy who made that movie decided for the 20 years of that movie to just remaster everything and place it back in the cinema.
00:19:54
Amelie
So from the first of July, I think you can watch that movie back in the French cinema. And that's fantastic. That's great. And a lot of video are asking why we don't make great Asterix movie anymore or why we bored when we watch the selection of movies.
00:20:11
Amelie
Like there is this mini I really like about 1994.
00:20:14
Jo
Yeah.
00:20:14
Amelie
You're in France. It's 1994. You go to the cinema and you have the choice between the professional The Mask, Pulp Fiction, and Forrest Gump.
00:20:26
Amelie
And I'm like, this is so cool to imagine that. Like, I think there is a problem of quality in movies, in music, because everything is accessible in a snap of a finger. You're Gen X, but did you enjoy music like I did?
00:20:47
Amelie
Like, do you remember when you had a favorite group and the favorite group would produce an album and you would listen to the 10 same songs of that album over and over and over again.
00:21:04
Jo
Yeah, my generation actually wore all cassette tapes and CDs, by the way.
00:21:08
Amelie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:10
Jo
Absolutely.
00:21:10
Amelie
So you would go, you would go, you would ab buy your album for let's say 20 euros, right?
00:21:11
Jo
Yeah.
00:21:18
Amelie
And you would listen and listen and listen and listen for the next six months for that album. And for two years, you would have that album, done right? Same for movies. Nowadays, everything is, you know, you can go on Netflix, you've got the movie in the snap of a finger, you you can, I don't know, you can have music and have one song and have your personal list and everything.
00:21:36
Jo
Well,
00:21:43
Amelie
Like, no it's not, there's too much CGI and stuff and I'm like, there is something we're losing.
00:21:51
Jo
Well, there's a thing, though, and I'm going posit this out there right now. Did you ever just think that because it's not so much cinema is changing? I think cinema did change, and streaming services exist, and so does music, obviously, change as well.
00:22:05
Jo
But you changed because you got older.
00:22:06
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:22:10
Jo
Your consumer habits have changed. Your ability to follow that one band that meant so much to you as a teen has changed. It might be you and not the industry.
00:22:26
Amelie
Yeah, but when you look at the numbers, for example, the number of streamings of music, it goes down, generally speaking.
00:22:26
Jo
you You talk to some Zs and they're going to talk up and down about the two, three people they fucking like.
00:22:40
Jo
Streaming news has gone down? What chart have you been looking at?
00:22:45
Amelie
Music streaming. music streaming When you look at a one artist with the number of streaming, the streaming goes down. They still sell, but for example,
00:22:59
Amelie
the artist now they need to release more songs. Like before they were releasing, let's say, 12 songs for an album. Now they need to release at least 30 songs to be relevant.
00:23:12
Jo
i I have to disagree with that. I'm so sorry. No, i don't see the numbers with that. I actually see streaming music is not going down whatsoever. There's some resurgence buying physical copies, but it's still streaming's game.
00:23:28
Jo
and if artists are releasing this or that, maybe it's because we're having access to the foreign music rights earlier than we would on an actual physical copy.
00:23:40
Jo
Like if Guns and Roses puts out Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 in the United States, that album is different in Japan because of foreign music rights. They have to make it different for the fucking audience.
00:23:52
Jo
And now I think those songs that didn't go on the US ones, now you just have access to them. Or access to them quicker, should say.
00:24:03
Jo
Maybe that's what the more prevalent is.
00:24:04
Amelie
So you think it's just the speed of getting things?
00:24:05
Jo
I don't know.
00:24:07
Amelie
Like for example, now, whenever you have a Siri, it's not like it used to be. For example, when you had when you When you have a series, for example, in a America, it would be 2000, the series goes in America, right?
00:24:23
Amelie
But then they want to sell it in Europe.
00:24:24
Jo
Right. Right.
00:24:25
Amelie
So we would have to wait one to two years to get the series translated. So season one would be September 2000 for you. And for us, September 2002, we will receive the series, the first season, the second season, etc., etc.
00:24:36
Jo
right
00:24:41
Amelie
So, yeah, maybe it's the speed, maybe the quality, maybe it's the right change. But there's something. There's something. I think it's it's really easy. It's really fast.
00:24:52
Amelie
And,
00:24:56
Amelie
yeah, when I watch what's coming to the cinema, I'm like,
00:24:58
Jo
Well, that's a good kind of question then. Then we'll leave it to our listeners. What do you guys think outside? You know?
00:25:07
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:25:11
Jo
you know And that's part of the thing. We can absolutely see what the other people think. We'll well leave it to that. Right now, I'm saying 28 Days Later changed cinema in a very positive way, in my opinion.
00:25:21
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:25:25
Jo
It changed it for indie developers especially to understand.
00:25:26
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:25:28
Jo
Hell, I've seen entire movies done on iPhones. It's not an iPhone. An iPhone being taped. Of course, they had Apple's backing and probably produced the shit out of it. But still, it's two iPhones.
00:25:39
Jo
So you you have a lot of the budget breakdowns starting out with 28 Days Later that get cheaper and cheaper for indies. And then now with everyone having a streaming platform, if you don't get that major distribution, you can probably find a good streaming platform or two to get yourself known.
00:25:58
Amelie
Yeah.
00:25:58
Jo
Or if you can, fucking probably even make one at this point. But yeah, it's something we can talk about. But next up...
00:26:03
Amelie
Yes.
00:26:05
Jo
Black Phone. Kidding. Black Phone sequel coming out soon. Talk about that one later. But next up, Barry Season 2. Are you ready? Yeah.
00:26:16
Jo
Barry Season 2 coming up next time on Streaming Demons. Bye, everyone. Like and subscribe. Bye-bye. bye