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Thanksgiving and Spirituality
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole (family, food, chips, weather, and streaming services); Ron ponders about Thanksgiving movies, or the lack there of; Chris brings up a brief chat about spirituality. As always please like, subscribe and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Podcast Introduction and Zencastr Updates
00:00:04
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe podcast. I'm Chris. I am a confused Ron who just heard music for the first time ever. Yeah, Zancaster added intros and outros again. Yeah, they're fancy. Thanks, Zancaster. I was not prepared for it. I literally stopped and was like, hello, what have I done? That's why I didn't tell you about it. Something's wrong with my computer.
00:00:28
Speaker
Well, I guess this will be post Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving Traditions and Critiques
00:00:34
Speaker
When does it go? Yeah, no, this will be right before Thanksgiving. Oh. Yeah, yeah, this is coming out Monday Tuesday, three, four days before Thanksgiving. Yeah. The most wretched of all holidays. What? Turkey sucks. First off, the only reason you think turkey sucks is because you've had bad turkeys. Second off, you don't have to have turkey. You can eat whatever you want. Yeah, I eat the sides.
00:00:58
Speaker
You could even ask for, I don't know, hamburgers or whatever you want. Not with my wife's insane family. Go out to the grill and make yourself some hamburgers. Come back and eat the hamburger. If I did that, I'd stay out there the entire time and then I'd be antisocial.
Thanksgiving Plans and Alternatives
00:01:19
Speaker
I mean, we're being antisocial. We're doing literally nothing. We were going to go take the RV out and camping.
00:01:28
Speaker
And the first year we did it, it was amazing. The second year it was a little more full. Now all the campgrounds are full on Thanksgiving. These maniacs have stolen my thing. We can't even go anywhere. Nope. No, it was that nice pregnant Paul, so people had to change their, check their Zoom. I mean, is it just one campground or is it all campgrounds like that? We checked.
00:01:55
Speaker
three campgrounds that were all full. And then we were just like, all right, that's just not going to happen this year. Just camp in your driveway. Could do that. I mean, you know, seems a little weird. Just go inside. Yeah, you could. We enjoy the Thanksgiving away from the hustle and bustle. Yeah. This is the last year D shifters have to work.
00:02:22
Speaker
Thanksgiving. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because we have a leap year coming up. Yeah, we've had it for forever. Five years, six years. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's insane. And I took everyone off. You know what? I don't feel guilty about it. No, don't. Don't at all. Yeah. The chief officer in our department tried to make me feel a little guilty about it. What? This is the only thing my seniority means. Exactly. I don't have to worry Thanksgiving. Yeah. That's it.
00:02:53
Speaker
It's the only thing it means. Yeah. Who cares? It's just good for Thanksgiving. If somebody took every, I don't know, groundhog day off, they would never bat an eye. Right. I don't care about Christmas. I'll work every Christmas. You know, I just don't want to work Thanksgiving. All right. And my shift is, you know, currently freaking out because they don't have a plan for their Thanksgiving. How do they not have a plan yet? I don't know.
00:03:22
Speaker
animals. How about this? Stay in the station. Eat your food. Yeah. Do your job. Right. Yeah. That's your job. Right here. You want to be like super, you know, thinking of everyone. Make, you know, like if you're going to bring. Stuffing, make three stuffings and then drop two of them off at the other stations on your way into work. That way you contributed. Everybody's happy. City is safe.
00:03:52
Speaker
City safe. I don't buy into the whole, we all should get together nonsense. That's not your job. Well, that's fine if you want to get together the next day. Sure, the next day. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Yeah.
Food Preferences and Holiday Eating Habits
00:04:11
Speaker
The wife and I are finding excuses to avoid all Christmas parties. They're holiday parties. Yeah. We're going clean.
00:04:20
Speaker
Doing 30 days of clean food. Oh, wow. No alcohol, no added sugars, clean everything. Cool. And it'll be rough. Yeah, the first week or so will be rough. My birthday's in that. Yeah. 30 days. Her fancy rich doctor boss is throwing a Christmas party. You know that's going to be good food. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not go. Stick to our clean food thing. Wow.
00:04:49
Speaker
That's I mean, good on you for sticking to that. No Christmas cookies. Mm. That's the worst. That's going to be the worst. No pecan pie. Oh, oh, that's just syrup and nuts. And it's delicious. Oh, God. No, just just just.
00:05:07
Speaker
squirt a bunch of pancake syrup in your mouth, shove a pecan in there and chew it up. I'm sorry. We all don't eat dry ass cake and pretend like it's good. I mean, cake is fine. A nice apple pie. A nice apple pie is good. Pecan pie is better. I hate that. I think a nice apple pie is fine, but you know the problem with apple pie, I'd rather just have apple dumpling. A nice warm apple dumpling. That's all you really want.
00:05:34
Speaker
Well, see apple pie, I've got to have it warm. I can't eat cold pie. Sure. Yeah. But do you want, I just feel like it's too much crust on apple pie. Not the way my wife makes it. She does a really thin crust. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. I like dumplings. Yeah. A little bit of an all ice cream on top. Oh. Dumplings. Those are those flat noodle things that are in like stock, right? Only before.
00:06:04
Speaker
Was it a slick dumpling or a drop dumpling or? Only dumplings that have nothing to do with being a dumpling. Everywhere else in America and the world, a dumpling is that's filled. Yeah. And either fried or steamed. Yeah. Baked in that. What is inside the Chinese dumpling? I mean, have you ever seen like how they make them? Yeah. Watch it all the time. It's this. But I mean, no, I'm telling you, like at a like a Chinese restaurant.
00:06:32
Speaker
Like as you're staying there waiting, you can see them in the back, like prepping them. I don't think I've ever watched that. Don't. You don't want to. It's this weird bowl of stuff. It's like a it's like pork and vegetables. Yeah. And spices. Yeah. I make vegetable potstickers. Yes. And they're delicious. I get them all the time. Wait, do they have mushrooms in them? Oh, I think so. OK. That's right. But mushrooms don't like mushrooms.
00:07:01
Speaker
You wouldn't even taste them. It's a texture thing. Mm. Same reason I'd only like, well, just that it's gross, but like shrimp and stuff. No. Shrimp is delicious. No, no. That's a sea cockroach. Yeah, those are crabs. I'm not a big I'm not a big seafood person to start with. So yeah, that's a weird isn't sure thing. It is. You all live on the ocean and don't like seafood. Yeah.
00:07:32
Speaker
I don't have seafood restaurants. It's really weird. Yeah, we have a couple of their local things. Not very many now. Now, well, it's because they all cater to the tourist idiots. But if I was a tourist, I would want traditional shore seafood. But instead, they do that, you know, they make it what Phillips was around forever from Baltimore. Yeah. The crab cake factory.
00:08:02
Speaker
Which, I don't have the crab cakes, I can't really. I don't know. It seems crappy. They need to go to some hole-in-the-wall place like Millie's in Vienna. I think the problem though is like, Maryland has bought way too far into the crab cake. Oh, you know, I'll put Old Bay on anything? Yeah, like, I guarantee your great-grandparents didn't eat crab cakes.
00:08:29
Speaker
You know, when they did, it was like, oh, we have some leftover crab and some stale bread. That's what we made a crab cake out of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's my grandmother's recipe. It literally says a great grandmother. It's a you have to use a stale piece of white bread, not a heel. I mean, she's got a very specific. Yeah. And it's like one of those. It's like a little bit of this, a little bit of that and that kind of deal. It was poor people food.
00:08:55
Speaker
And poor people food is the best food. Yeah. Don't make it fancy. Just make it good. Yeah, that's an idea. You can do all kinds of, oh, it's got a demi-glaze and this and that. If it doesn't taste good, I don't care. The best thing Eastern Shore does is the wet cornbread. See, I'm not a big corn pound person. Oh, man.
00:09:20
Speaker
That blew me away the first time I had it down there. Yeah. It's the only thing out of the Eastern Shore. I'm like, man, you guys really got this right. It's the one thing they can anger out on. Yeah. Well, because I grew up a corn bread like the dry kind. Yeah. My whole life. That was like what we had. And man, I was blown away the first time I had the one cornbread. Oh, God. It's like corn fudge. Kind of. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't like corn pudding.
00:09:50
Speaker
Uh, no, it's too sweet with the chunks. I'm not into that. I was a party last night and they had somebody had made Mexican street corn dip. It's like, no, thank you. It's the texture thing of like biting into it, like corn kernel pops. Yeah. And I've had it a couple of times since it's become like the fad of the street. It's not that good to me. People were raving about it. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm glad you enjoy it. I will have another, you know, dip of.
00:10:20
Speaker
Some more crab dip and these heart attack crackers. Heart attack crackers. There were these rits. I think it was rits. I don't know, but they looked like pretzel. But the amount of salt on them was enough to kill a horse. I mean, it was. Yeah. So after that first handful of those crackers, because I didn't want to be like shove them off to the side. So I ate those, but then I just got regular. I think they had like a wheat thins.
00:10:51
Speaker
Do you like wheat then? Not even enough crackers in my life. I see I do. Do you consider Cheez-its to be a cracker? Oh my God. Let me tell you about Cheez-its. Have you had the Buffalo Wing Cheez-its? No. Somebody left them in the firehouse the other day.
00:11:14
Speaker
Hey, no name fair game. No name fair game. And they're vegetarian. I'm going to try them. And I've been tracking my calories. And I was like looking at the bag, like it says 12 chips or 130 calories. So if I eat six chips, I'm going to be fine. They were so freaking good. They were amazing cheeses. Cheeses are a little one note. Yeah. And you put that little hot sauce and it's not spicy. It's just got that little vinegary kick to it.
00:11:41
Speaker
Now, these are the little square ones, not the what's the new cheese? It snapped or whatever. No, these were regular cheese. It's just buffalo sauce. Yeah. Boy, I'm going to tell you, I have discovered two great snacks the week before I'm about to go clean eating for a month. Because between that and the Maui barbecue chips from us,
00:12:07
Speaker
Oh my God, the Maui barbecue chips. We went and had played board games with a friends of mine with a couple yesterday. And I was like, oh, we'll pick up snacks. We pick up barbecue chips and we picked up these barbecue chips. It's like, I've always seen them. I always want to try them. They're like salt and vinegar chips, but with barbecue sauce. Ooh, that does sound good. It's amazing. They might be the best potato chips in the world. And I can't eat them.
00:12:33
Speaker
I can eat all of them I want for the next week. Yeah. And then I'm stuck. Yeah. Yes. We always have a tradition when we go on like a little road trip, we'll stop at usually it's a rural farms and just everybody gets, you know, like a drink and a salty snack or whatever. And the last like probably three years, my go to has been as a buffalo wing combos or whatever. Oh, God, they're good. Just a little, you know, it's that pretzel with that little bit of spicy
00:13:03
Speaker
blue cheese funk in it. It's like the tang. You need the tang in life. Yeah. Everything's too one note without vinegar. It's almost like the Romans knew about it. But see, salt and vinegar chips are too much vinegar for me. Oh, so we got into a discussion about like potato chips and specifically salt and vinegar chips yesterday.
00:13:26
Speaker
There are some times when you can open up a bag of hers, salt and vinegar chips, where it's so much vinegar, it's painful, but it's delicious. You smell it across the room. Yes. It's great. That's why the Carolina chips are good. Yes. It's a Carolina style barbecue that's vinegar based instead of tomato. Yeah. But I recommend the Uts, and I agree, Uts are butts.
00:13:54
Speaker
the Maui barbecue chips. You should try them. They're banging. Yeah. Oh, I got into the whole butts, hers, everything else. The argument, but two weekends ago up in Goodstown. Well, you were in the you were in the thick of butts and hers. Yeah, that's like, yeah. Oh, you would have thought that I kicked this person's dog. Did you say hers? Were you a hers man? Yeah.
00:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, because they were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's our cream. I was like, there's sour cream sucks. Her sour cream are the best. They were just like, oh, how dare you? It's like, I dare so. Wow. So the hers kettle sour cream chips are great. OK. Hers ridges, sour cream chips are not the best now. The arts, sour cream chips are way better. I see.
00:14:47
Speaker
They're hers. I like the big waves. The Uts has little tiny waves. I don't like that. The little ridges. The little ridges that like to cut your, they cut your mouth. Yeah. So that the star cream 90 gets into your bloodstream. That's why they're good. Yeah.
00:15:03
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about yesterday about potatoes. Why are all the potato chips in America made in Pennsylvania? It's crazy. Yeah. Because they're not known for their potatoes. Right. You would think it would be Idaho. The conversation was like, and my friend's wife was like, well, there's just all the potatoes come from. Potatoes come from Pennsylvania. There's growing potatoes there. Yeah. I didn't realize Pennsylvania was such a big mushroom place.
00:15:32
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, I grew up in larger country. Oh, my gosh. Oh, the smell, because they had just fertilized the fields. So good. No, it's not. So good. It reminded me of growing up on the horse farm. It's so good. It's a nice hug of warmth. You live in the smell of chicken shit. It's terrible. Oh, I would much rather smell the mushroom smell than chicken shit. Yeah. The nice thing about the mushroom smell is you really only get it like really early in the morning. Yeah.
00:16:00
Speaker
And that goes away. This lasted all day. It depends how close you are to the farms. We were very close. Right. But the chicken should smell. It's horrible. It's terrible. Well, and then it's because these animals around here, it's not just the fertilizer they put out. They like liquefy it and inject it. And it's like when they liquefy it, it just angers it.
00:16:23
Speaker
Yeah, and then the and then the plant as soon as it gets hot anywhere. I don't want to be anywhere near station 16. Oh, my gosh. There was one day it was it was a hot day and the wind was blowing, I guess, you know, like south to north. Right. I was in my office and could smell it.
Office Anecdotes and Gaming Adventures
00:16:43
Speaker
It was permeating through the walls and stuff. I was like, this is horrible. This is just who don't know is a.
00:16:48
Speaker
literal sealed building. Yeah. You cannot open any windows. It's got hurricane proof protocols for whatever reason. Yeah. Yeah. But that smell made it through. It is a terrible smell. That's why I don't eat chicken. Yeah. You know. It's one of the reasons. I don't know. The more I become vegetarian in my life, looking back on chicken going, oh, that's real rough. Yeah.
00:17:16
Speaker
The few times I've had to go into the actual processing plant, there's no way I've eaten chicken for months after that. Yeah, one time Lorenzo got slapped in the face by a chicken. Yeah, about the only chicken I eat now. If I want, if I eat some chicken, it's not real chicken.
00:17:42
Speaker
I know somebody makes them their chicken fries. It's just the ground up stuff they press into a form. Sure. Yeah. But I like air fry those and then chop them up, toss them in wing sauce and make a nice little wrap. Yeah. Yeah. I've tried the vegetarian wings. It's just fine. It's it's a weird texture. There's one really good one, but I never see them anywhere. Yeah. And they're not good for you. No, no. Yeah. Let's say you go to like a.
00:18:09
Speaker
whole foods or something to actually get decent vegetarian frozen stuff, it seems like. Yeah. Wegmans has a lot of good vegetarian frozen foods, a lot of good vegetarian options. I'm just across the board. Yeah. I've been to trade. People thought rave about Trader Joe's. I don't go. Yeah. Probably should. I don't know where there is a Trader Joe's around here. I mean, there's one seven minutes from my house, so I really have no excuse. They've got a lot of gluten free stuff too, because I know
00:18:40
Speaker
friend of ours will stay go to Trader Joe's like once a month or something and she'll bring back like, you know, you're some pancake mix. It's probably an Easton, you know. No, it's not an Easton. No, I think somewhere in Delaware that they go. Well, the only one dollar I know is what appeared by me. Maybe. I don't know. They're there, you know. Well, some of these people, you know, we're going to drive up to three hours ago to grocery store. I'm like, the hell is wrong with you? Yeah.
00:19:08
Speaker
One thing, though, now where it's getting cold, it sucks the farmers markets are, you know, less and less so you can't get like fresher, fresher stuff. Yeah.
00:19:18
Speaker
our local market, they closed December 31st, but really by November 20th, they are kind of done. They're just selling off basically canned foods at this point. Then we went there, share with them the other day and bought apples and they're like, yeah, these are pretty much the last apples. No. My darling wife had a birthday recently. I was like, okay.
00:19:44
Speaker
birthday breakfast for you. You want, you know, waffles? Yeah. I really like some strawberries. I was like, it's November. That's not a thing. That could be good. Yeah. So I, and I looked, you know, I looked and I tell you, I could find every berry, but the strawberry. Sure. They had, I mean, they had raspberries and blackberries and, you know, gooseberries, but no strawberries. So I bought some frozen strawberries. You would thought that I've farted on her waffles.
00:20:11
Speaker
Well, to be fair to her, strawberries, frozen strawberries are one of the things that don't they don't just don't do it for me. No, no. So, you know, she had some raspberry jam and chintilly cream. You put some strawberry jam on there. We didn't have a strawberry jam. No, that's fair. Yeah.
00:20:35
Speaker
It's going to be rough. No apples. Yeah. I mean, I go to the, we go to the orchards from the day they open up apple season to the end of the day, we go once a week and buy two bags of apples. Why don't you make a bunch of apple sauce? Uh, cause I'm out of the sugar. You don't have to put sugar in it. I think you do. No. I think you do. Cause otherwise it like tries out.
00:21:02
Speaker
I did see a pretty amazing camping hack where the guy takes applesauce basically and dehydrates it. And then it becomes apple jerky, but you can rehydrate it and it's literally applesauce. I was going to say, yeah, you can make apple chips. I could make apple chips or I could just eat all the apples because that's what I'm a fat little piggy and I'll eat all the apples. I probably eat four apples a day.
00:21:31
Speaker
Wow. Hey, four apples a day keeps the doctor away. Yeah. They're like vampires. You throw apples on them and then keep them away. Yeah. Where was it? I heard somewhere the other day that they had a mild outbreak of scurvy because people were avoiding citrus for some reason or something. Oh, God. I was like, how in this?
00:21:55
Speaker
Century, do we have people have scurvy? Right. We figured scurvy out, right? That shouldn't be a thing. Who knows? Folks, if you're out there listening, go eat an orange if you haven't. You don't even have to do... You can just add lemon juice to your water and you will keep scurvy away. I just don't understand people. No, I don't either. People are...
00:22:24
Speaker
Insane. Yes. The older I get, the more insane they seem to be. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So sight tangent. I have started my dark urge play through in Baldur's Gate. Nice. That's tough. It is tough. Yeah, I got it. I got a little ways into it and said, oh, I got it. I have to break. Yeah. Did you did you make it?
00:22:52
Speaker
to camp where the girl shows up? The tiefling? No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like your does. It's after you go to the Druid Grove the first time and then you go take a little nappy nap and somebody shows up and there's an interesting interaction. I haven't. I really haven't played much anything. Yeah. Recently, I've been.
00:23:19
Speaker
I don't know. Like, I don't know what I don't have an excuse. Like I just go to the gym for an hour and then that's my whole day somehow. Yeah, it happens. I don't know what happens. Yeah. Let's say we've had nicer weather. Oh, yeah, I know. We've had this weird weather. I don't understand. You know, I know we cannot control the weather, but the fact that during the work week, it is nice. And then on the weekends, it was either cold or rainy. I was like, what the hell is this?
00:23:47
Speaker
Uh, that's what you get for working day work like a sucker. Uh, yeah. Yeah. That was, those are so no shift work have to, you know, deal with the rain for 24 hours. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And his stupid delight savings. Yeah. So it's a real annoying. I, I have no problem going to work in the dark.
00:24:11
Speaker
But the fact that I come home and I get, look, I get off early. I usually leave work three thirty four at the latest. I still only get I feel like an hour of sunlight. Mm hmm. Yeah, I haven't been able to play disco with my buddies at all because they get off work at four o'clock and by four oh four, it's headlamps and I don't feel like it was this way years ago. I feel like it wasn't this dark.
00:24:40
Speaker
Maybe we're just getting older and we notice the anger more. Maybe I don't know, but it's like to like move north. Does that help? No, I don't know. No, that would make it darker or longer, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You'll appreciate this. The other day at the county SWAT meeting, the first one, they're looking at the map of Y Comico County and you know, little sharp towns in that little point at the top and.
00:25:09
Speaker
Dr. Chismar is like, Oh yeah. And you got, you know, sharp downs, like, you know, really far up based on the other count, rest of the County. Somebody goes, yeah, it's a lot colder up there. It's like, God, you bunch of shorebillies. Yeah. Sharp down the town that should be in Delaware. Yeah. Or Dorchester. Or Dorchester. Sure. Yeah. But yeah.
00:25:37
Speaker
Good old doctor. Yeah. Old Tim, old Tim. Very best buddy. Yeah. Well, that ruffled some feathers, you know, they're in the, yeah, everybody's in there talking. I walk in and he's like, Hey, Chris, you're a chief. And as they're like going around for introductions, you know,
00:25:56
Speaker
So he could get to know everybody's like, Oh, I know this guy, you know, always a good team player, does all this stuff and this and that. You can see the county chiefs are just like, who is stupid? Salisbury. I'm like, well, you know, I should participate in things. So suck it. Stupid Salisbury. Yeah. Stupid, brilliant. Running all the calls, saving all the lives. Yeah. Covering our calls for us. Oh, well, we rigged and rolled and we rigged and rolled. We did.
00:26:26
Speaker
The topic one. Sure. Uh, it's very simple topic. Okay. Thanksgiving. Why aren't there more Thanksgiving movies? Ooh. We had a conversation about this because we went to see plane strains and automobiles. Yeah, I would say that's the first one that pops to mind. Okay. That was probably some of John Candy's best acting ever.
00:26:52
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. It's. I mean, it's a great movie. Yeah. I got heartbreaking. It is a little heartbreaking. Yeah. I almost think it's Steve Martin's best movie. Yeah, it's their interplay and dynamic was just. Yeah. You because that was lightning in a bottle. It's so unlike every other Steve Martin role. Yeah. Yeah. Like.
00:27:20
Speaker
It was I mean, the closest he came was 30 round scoundrels where he was like a not good guy. Yeah. But I don't know why they didn't do more movies like that with those two. Yeah. Because it was so good. Yeah. You have any idea how fast you're going? Honestly, no. Spinnomers melted. Spinnomers melted. But everything's radio works. Yep. There was a whistle. Do you feel like this is safe? I do. I really do. Yep. Yep. I do.
00:27:50
Speaker
She may not be pretty but she'll get you where you go It's such a good movie. It is it's so good and such like everything you're like, oh my god, this is just Every scenes good. There's no bad scene. Yeah. Yeah It's like we've all had those meetings where we're just rolling our eyes because the boss is just Accomplishing nothing. Yeah, you know, it's just yeah So it's it's such a good movie
00:28:19
Speaker
And it's such a good move. It's time. We were talking about that too. It's like, oh, I have a plane at six o'clock. I could show up at the airport at 558 and still make the plane. Like you didn't have to be at the airport four hours early to go through bullshit security for bullshit reasons. Oh my God, that was tough. This is, yeah. Oh yeah, you could get on a train somehow. Yeah, just pop on.
00:28:51
Speaker
Well, I mean, you've always got the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving movie. Well, that was the second one I came up with. Oh, God, it was just all the Charlie Brown Thanksgiving movie. And then I'm just not a fan of Charlie Brown. Yeah, it's real tough. It's like a real it's very dated. Yeah, it's just. And then there's this new Thanksgiving movie from Eli Roth. Is that the horror movie that's coming out? Yeah.
00:29:21
Speaker
Yeah, no, thank you. And then I really have no other. No other answers. That's like I did. I did a search and they're saying you've got mail. It's a Thanksgiving movie. Because at one point they show their Thanksgiving celebrations. There is a recent movie called Friendsgiving. Sounds terrible. Yeah.
00:29:53
Speaker
There was a movie called The Pilgrims. I'm sure that was fun. But it's weird, like it's it's it's America's holiday. It's like the only holiday that's well, I guess, Fourth of July. There's two holidays that are very, very America. And we don't have really no. Thanksgiving is all about like this is the start of the Christmas season, really. That's all it's become now. Yeah. Well, I mean, there are people that, you know,
00:30:21
Speaker
They're like, oh, yeah, there's two holidays. There's Halloween and Christmas. Right. And look, you do you for that. But I've always been a staunch defender of the Christmas season starts after Turkey Day. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You the Thanksgiving Day parade starts off the thing. Rocky is considered Thanksgiving movie. What? What? See, people stretch so much. Spider-Man. Well, I saw. Well, yeah. Because remember, they have the
00:30:51
Speaker
It's a five second Thanksgiving dinner in it. Doesn't. Well, I saw Adam's family was in there. The Santa Claus. What? No, no, no, no, no, Santa, Santa. Say you're fat ass in Saturnalia. The. Miracle 34th Street.
00:31:09
Speaker
Mm. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's technically about Thanksgiving parade, but no. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you watch the Thanksgiving parade? I don't anymore. I don't know. It was a thing when I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's like I had people at work were like, oh, you know, Parkside won the Nationals. They got to go to the Macy's Day parade. I said, absolutely not. Well, because I didn't know
00:31:36
Speaker
all the ins and outs. So when we were up and cuts down before we knew we had won, I was talking to the band director. I was like, what exactly does it entail? He said, hell, that's what it entails. He said, you show up. You have to be there at like two o'clock in the morning. Sure. And they give you very little time to set up and everything. They say, OK, here's your window. You come over to this little area at like three o'clock. You have five minutes to perform part of your thing.
00:32:06
Speaker
You have no warmup, no nothing. If you flub, you don't get a redo and it's a yay or nay. If it's a nay, you just wasted all that time. If it's a yay, you go to this holding pen where you can't leave or anything until your time slot to go march. You do your eight minute presentation at that one point where you stop and then that's it. Oh, I was like, screw that. That sounds terrible. Yeah. That does not sound like something kids should be doing. No.
Thanksgiving Media and Traditions
00:32:33
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So.
00:32:34
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm just not a big parade person unless we've got the Salisbury parade coming up in there. I'll throw candy at people or I'm sorry, you can't throw candy anymore. You have to hand it out. They fussed at us last year for throwing candy. What? Yes.
00:32:50
Speaker
Uh, you could hurt somebody with that. I'm like, I'm not wingy. It's not like I've got candied apples and I'm winging them like a baseball, which sounds even better. I watched Jason Kelsey of the Eagles wing full beers at people from the top of a bus. Oh, I think it'd be all right with candy. Yeah. Yeah. So.
00:33:12
Speaker
I don't know the parade thing. I used to be a huge Mummer's Day parade, Mummer's parade, but you don't have it. That's a Philly thing. My wife was like, what's the Mummer's? I'm like, oh, it's this. It's the male version of the mummy. Exactly.
00:33:29
Speaker
It's just it's just a traditional thing. And then I'm like, I can't be bothered. I can't be bothered to sit there and watch this thing for five, 10, I mean, it's 12 hour long parade. Well, and the problem with a parade is you don't see the whole thing. No, you see a snapshot. Yeah. So. Yeah. Because if you want to go there. Oh, oh, oh. And all the people. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Here's. Yeah.
00:33:57
Speaker
Surprise, surprise, like everything else in America. There's no like, oh, you're going to show up to this public event. Have you bathed in the last six hours? Have you worn deodorant? You know, maybe brushed your teeth. None of those are required. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. There's there was another Thanksgiving movie animated. It was like, I don't know, save a turkey or something. It's like the turkey is revolved or something. I don't know. Don't remember that movie. I just don't know.
00:34:27
Speaker
Well, I know what Franklin or whatever the turkey who looked at a turkey is like, I want to eat that thing. OK, it's big fluffy scrotum headed thing. We it's it's a large game bird. It's a large game bird that's head looks like a wrinkly scrotum. Fair. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, it got mad. So its head turns blue or purple. What are freakish things?
00:34:57
Speaker
No. Yeah. And then the animals that eat the giblets and the. Oh, I'm going to tell you about the gravy. Yeah. You know, make the giblet gravy. Oh, God. Yeah. Nothing. Nothing about giblet bring, you know, waters my mouth. Yeah. Nobody is. You know what I want tonight? Giblets. My mother eats chicken livers. Oh, God. The grossest thing I've ever seen. Yeah. You know, she probably is.
00:35:27
Speaker
I love your mother, but she's probably also like, she gets excited when it's windy, cause she probably likes kites. She's one of the five people. Oh great, it's a windy day. Wow. I'm sure she doesn't hear this one. Golly day. Smack me the next time she sees me. She's not coming out of Alabama. He's not allowed out of the South anymore.
00:35:57
Speaker
Still the other day, she's like, this is a complete side of danger. She's like, I couldn't live back in Delaware though. The weather's there. It's not as nice.
00:36:05
Speaker
It's 72 degrees in November. What are you talking about? Well, she's down in the bayou. Right. It's 120% humidity. Humidity doesn't work in your area because the numbers don't make sense. How could it be more than 100% humidity? That means you're underwater. I don't understand.
00:36:29
Speaker
Oh, and one of them, maybe I think it might be Louisiana. I was talking to a guy last night and he said that one of Louisiana, you can drink at 18. You just can't buy alcohol. So it's a good plan. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, they'll like let 18 year olds out to a bar and stuff. It's just somebody else has to buy the booze and then they hand them over to them, which makes no sense. Well, that's all. But they also have drive throughs.
00:36:59
Speaker
Like, oh, what do you call it? It was like Charlie's number two or something. I was like that. And you drive through and, you know, you order your drink and it's, you know, he's like, you get like a 32 ounce margarita with three extra shots. And he was like, oh, and to make it not an open container, they put a piece of scotch tape over it. Yeah. Yeah. That's smart. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, we're over here fighting in Delaware to have alcohol delivered.
00:37:33
Speaker
I mean, Thanksgiving, you would think there would be more movies because it's supposed to be a family time and friends and getting together. And, you know, it's all about being thankful. And, you know, it's it's your, you know, it's your the holiday. Yeah. Yeah. And it's one of those holidays. There's no cards or anything involved. No. Yeah. You don't have to bring presents. It's really low key, except unless you're the poor bastard is cooking. Yeah. Well, I mean, hopefully people like bring side dishes or
00:38:04
Speaker
I went to one and it was, I can't remember what, how they said it or whatever, but it was like, you could bring like, you know, a side or a drink or something.
00:38:17
Speaker
It, the dinner ended up, it was a turkey and potatoes. 40 bottles of wine. And yeah, I was like, Jesus. You got to communicate some of these things. Yeah. Yeah. You got to organize that or people, the alcoholics are like, Oh, it's easier. I can just buy a bottle of wine. Yeah. I'm, I'm all about like doing non-traditional things for Thanksgiving. Have a, have a lasagna. It's a lovely day for a Thanksgiving lasagna. Yeah.
00:38:47
Speaker
Extra turkey in it. Taco bar or something. Oh, a taco bar. That does sound nice, actually. Yeah. That sounds like a lovely little tradition. Yeah. Nobody gets upset about a taco bar. No. There's some weirdness. Be like, where's my turkey? I gotta have my turkey. No, no. Have your pressed turkey loaf some other day.
00:39:09
Speaker
That's like the people that do you remember when we were in school and people were like, oh, it's the Thanksgiving lunch. What a horrid, horrid thing that was. A white piece of. I don't know what yours was, but mine was a a plain ass white piece of bread. Yeah. Like like old school crappy, crappy, crappy. Oh yeah. Like Wonder Bread. Yeah. But not even like like Wonder, but it's spelled with a V. The Wonder Bread. The Wonder Bread. And it was dry ass turkey slice.
00:39:39
Speaker
Covered in some sort of glop, but it wasn't a turkey. It was one of those press turkey loaves that you know, like the slice, like, yeah, they shake, you know, they just set the, you know, the slicer like a quarter inch or something. There it goes. Happy Thanksgiving. You had your ice cream scoop of stuffing. Oh, we didn't even have stuffing. Oh, yeah, we had that. And it was this just ball of gelatinous stuffing thing and stuff.
00:40:06
Speaker
God, and potatoes, you had to have potatoes. Had to have. Yeah, which all that was, was they got the extra paste from the art room. It was what was boxed potato starch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm. Mm. Mm. Delicious. Yeah. God damn people, but I remember people get excited over that. I'm like, but. You know, I get excited over my Thanksgiving because I do make it effort and cook, but not doing it this year. Yeah. For the past, like, I think it's fun.
00:40:36
Speaker
If you enjoy cooking. Yeah. It's a fun way to show off. Yeah. Because you'll cook things like sides that you wouldn't normally cook. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I always make roasted Brussels sprouts now. Yeah. Because that's the only way to have Brussels sprouts. Yes. Yeah. God. I mean, there's people at work who still only eat Brussels sprouts if I make them. Because you're great at it. No, it's because they were sort of terrible Brussels sprouts their entire lives. Just the boiled little fart bombs. Yes. Yeah.
00:41:07
Speaker
I mean, I have vivid memories of my mother taking the frozen bag of Brussels sprouts, dumping it into a pot, boiling them to death, and then serving me fart soup. Yeah. Yeah. I remember my mom would try to jazz it up and put like some, you know, Velveeta on it. Right. Oh, yeah. Let's put this processed cheese that kind of melts on it. Yeah.
00:41:30
Speaker
My mother, she was really feeling fancy with butter on top of the brussels sprouts. This is what you want. Farts with a little bit of grease on the top. We grew up in a terrible time. The 80s were not a good time for food. No, it wasn't. No. It was real bad. But Arby's was awesome.
00:41:58
Speaker
Arby's was like the only decent fast food.
Fast Food Critiques and Squirrel Stories
00:42:01
Speaker
I have very fond memories and maybe it's just the passage of time, but I have very fond memories of Arby's being so much better than everything around. Yeah. Well, I remember it was like, you know, this makes us really sound like the poor people we were, but it was like Arby's was like, you know, oh, that's the fancy fast food.
00:42:22
Speaker
fancy fast food for us was we would go to Wendy's when they had the Wendy salad bar. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. With the spaghetti. Wendy's spaghetti? Wendy's had spaghetti. Yeah. You'd go up to the salad bar and they would have like spaghetti, the Wendy salad bar. God. Yeah. Wow. Good old Wendy's spaghetti. Yeah. I'm pretty sure my brother got food poisoning from that place. Like real bad. Oh gosh. Yeah.
00:42:53
Speaker
Does he avoid Wendy's now? You know, probably. Yeah. You should get him Wendy's Funko pop for Christmas. Weirdly, there's no Wendy's out where he lives. Really? Yeah. Well, we've only got, we do have two in Salisbury. I would say there's not even a Wendy's where I live. I live in a big town. There's no Wendy's around that I know of.
00:43:23
Speaker
Um, yeah, that's weird. That's a conspiracy. No, there's a way these were talking about 60 feet from me. Well, I just, I never think about the one that's down here, but I think it's always think about town. There's nothing in town, but weird. I think the only fast food left in town is the McDonald's and that's not going to go anywhere. No.
00:43:52
Speaker
Sometimes people still pay overpriced for their grease. People and this, oh, this is another site agent. This weird obsession with the Big Mac being good. What? No. I don't know what it is. People talk about it like it's this greatest thing. I was like, no, this thing is crap. To all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun. The special sauce is Thousand Island. Let's move on. Stop pretending like they made their own sauce.
00:44:23
Speaker
Big Macs and their chicken nuggets are trash. I said it. They're for children. They're not even that. Oh gosh. And you remember you would get the chicken nuggets and you get the one that had a tendon in it. Yeah. Yeah. Their chicken nuggets are trash. Their fries aren't even that good. The fries have a weird after days. I'll say it.
00:44:45
Speaker
As I drink my McDonald's tea because they actually have decent ice tea. Well, wasn't it? Wasn't it McDonald's had like they put like beef or something in there? Back in the day, it was they fried their their fries and beef tallow. Yeah, I don't think they do that anymore. But we really went off the rails on Thanksgiving, but yeah, baby.
00:45:08
Speaker
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. But part of it also is, I mean, is Thanksgiving a nice holiday? Because are we celebrating theft? Oh, like what we're celebrating? Yeah. It's a little rough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all the holidays have their problems. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm bummed this year, my family's not going to be able to come over for Thanksgiving. So just be me and my in-laws.
00:45:39
Speaker
And his bummer and my brother-in-law and his family And that's where the real bummer is Yeah Well, make sure they don't open the oven since throw cushions in there. Yeah, that's true Maybe that would jazz the day up. It definitely would jazz the day up. A good fire does wonder for the day
00:46:05
Speaker
Like when my house filled with fire, full of smoke for a Christmas party. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Didn't flu. Yeah, it's stupid because a squirrel had made a nest in your flu or something. I don't know who knows. Stupid squirrels do everything. I get birds in there all the time. Just stupid things. God, I just catch them on fire now. Yeah. Who was I talking to the other day that had they're talking about the number of squirrels they have in their yard?
00:46:33
Speaker
And they said it's like they have the, it's like a mafia. They've got like this Dawn squirrel. It's this like 800 pounds squirrel that barely moves, but the other squirrels bring him food. Nice. Yeah. I'm like that, that squirrels figured it out. Yeah. I saw some heartbreaking thing that squirrels forget where like 70% of their nuts are hidden. Oh yeah. That's horrible. Yeah. Yeah. Poor little guys. I saw one where they,
00:47:01
Speaker
It was like a cell tower. Yes. Filled it up with nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Squirrels are underneath like it's raining. Yeah. Victory. Oh, God. Well, I guess we can move on from Thanksgiving into topic two. Yeah. Hey, folks, enjoy Thanksgiving. Yeah. Yeah. It's a wonderful. People you actually enjoy being around. That's fair. Yeah. Oh,
Streaming Services and Subscription Woes
00:47:28
Speaker
yeah. Topics. Did you watch Loki?
00:47:30
Speaker
Is the first season or second season? Second season. I have not watched it yet. Okay. Well, whenever you do watch it, you're going to have to explain it to me. I don't know. It's time travel. It's confusing. Yeah. I still am terrified. It's 10 o'clock. It's time you wind me. It is time you wind me. It's side tangent to this conversation before you go on. I don't know where you're going with this, but it's side tangent before you go on. I don't know either. We had
00:47:55
Speaker
Got an Apple TV to watch Ted Lasso. That's all we wanted. So we watched Ted Lasso and I got to cancel Apple TV yesterday. I have my password. I have the phone number. I have the email address. I even have the goddamn credit card information to cancel this. Do you think I was able, with all of that information, to cancel Apple Plus? Not at all. Not even close. Yeah.
00:48:25
Speaker
This is insane. I was doing it for my phone, as Americans do. I'm trying to cancel Apple. You can't do it from the app. That's crazy talk. That's not going to happen. I would log into their website and say, right in there, how do I cancel Apple TV? It would bring up a link that would send me to my podcast player.
00:48:59
Speaker
Yeah, Apple's very confusing with their services. This is the first time I've ever had an Apple ID. I was like, okay, now I need to cancel the service. I would back out and say, okay, you need to download Apple Music. Why do I need to download Apple Music to catch a larger service? I literally had to log into their chat, wait for someone to get on the chat with me,
00:49:27
Speaker
and say, I just want to cancel my service. He's like, I see you're logged into your Apple ID. Would you like to cancel your service? Just cancel it. Just cancel it. I don't want it anymore. It is a lot easier if you are an Apple consumer. I could just go to my phone and I manage subscriptions. I could just toggle them on and off. Well, guess who's never getting an Apple again. Yeah, I figured this would be the nail in the coffin for that.
00:49:50
Speaker
This is the end of that. But then we also canceled Disney Plus and HBO Max. There's a reason. We're not getting rid of it, but because Disney Plus apparently is going away next month anyways. What? Yeah. The merge with Hulu or whatever. So we're just going to get it all through Hulu. So we'll just have instead of having three subscriptions, we'll just have Hulu. Right. Sorry.
00:50:15
Speaker
Go on my phone. Actually, I went on the Disney Plus app and I said cancel. It brought up manuscript subscriptions on my phone. I hit one button and both of them were canceled. Nice. One button. Yeah. I had to log in. Yeah. Cancel. See, I think what it is is Apple XM radio and gym memberships are all tied together.
00:50:40
Speaker
They're all like XM. I swear. It's like I talked to somebody and they're like, it's honestly easier to close your bank account and open a new one. So what? No. We had XM for a long time, and I actually liked XM. It's not worth the money, right? No. Unless you're like an over the road truck driver or something. Yeah. But I don't want to even talk about it. I do. I like channels. I think they do. It's.
00:51:11
Speaker
But then they started having ads on the damn channels. Yeah. It's like, wait, I'm paying for a service. I don't want ads if I'm paying for a service. Right. And it just got to the point where I don't want... I don't have an XM radio anymore. I used to have an XM radio. And it was nice because I had a little radio that I could pull out of my car, put it into a little dock station. I could play that anywhere in the house or anywhere I wanted to go. Right. It was nice.
00:51:35
Speaker
But we get to cancel it and they're like, please don't cancel. What can we do? I just went out. We will send you a goat. Yeah. They're like, well, what if we give it to you for free for six months? No, I still don't want it. Yeah. Just went out. Yeah. Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah. That's why I canceled my Apple music the other day and we just have a Spotify family plan now. Yeah. I just have Pandora.
00:52:01
Speaker
Oh, whatever. Apple music. Yeah, it's like some of the things were neat, like it had like spatial audio or whatever for some songs. I'm like, OK, that's cool. But like the playlists and all, I swear it would just do whatever it wanted. It would start playing different music and stuff. I'm like, no, I don't have that happen on Spotify. So, yeah. Yeah, I like the Pandora premium. I don't use Wi-Fi. I just use Pandora. It's also a thing. But my Pandora app tells me you should try premium premium all the time.
00:52:31
Speaker
But you have it. I'm literally on Pandora right now on my premium account. It still tells me you should try Pandora. It's like when you're watching a stream show on streaming and it's like an ad for the show. It's like I'm currently watching it. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But Apple TV, terrible.
Sci-fi Discussions and Technological Predictions
00:52:54
Speaker
And there was nothing on there I liked. Like I tried. I was like, Oh, maybe I'll watch others.
00:52:59
Speaker
Did you try, was it only murders in the building? Is that on Apple? That doesn't Hulu. Maybe that's Hulu. I don't know. My wife manages those streaming things and stuff. We, we, uh, we got rid of Netflix completely. Yeah. So side tangent last night, I was like, you know what? There's nothing, you know, going on. I tried to watch Dune. The new one. The new one. Sure. Yeah.
00:53:29
Speaker
I was very confused. So first, like 45 minutes or so. I just yeah, it was very, very confusing. There's these people with blue eyes that evidently do bad things and the other people that are mining for spice, but they're giving the rights up to somebody else. And there's this big fat guy in a steamy room. Yes, I love that movie.
00:53:52
Speaker
The new Dune movie is amazing. It's beautiful. It's amazing. Oh yeah, the visuals heard. If you haven't read the book, it was very confusing. Okay. All right. Just making sure I wasn't like, yeah. You know how we complain? Like I don't need to see Batman's origin stories. Right. You know what? 78th time. Yeah. I think they took that with Dune. We're like, we're just going to assume you read the book. Gotcha. Just going to make the movie that you want, assuming you read the book.
00:54:21
Speaker
If you haven't read the book, this is probably not for you. I feel like that's what they were like. That was their their view of it. Hmm. Because it is gorgeous. Yeah. Well, if you haven't read the book, it's going to be a little confusing. OK. All right. Yeah. Yeah. It's like and he was like. I don't know, he was dreaming about the girl with the blue eyes, but then that was a bad thing and had to stick his hand in a box and got hurt. Well, that's the part of this lady held a needle to his neck. Yeah. And he has some.
00:54:48
Speaker
He can talk in a weird voice or something. There's a commanding voice. He's got the voice. His mother asked him to tell him, tell her to pass the water with the voice or something. Well, that he's his mother's abenages, which he's the. Oh, OK. That makes total sense now. He's the fulfillment of abenages or a prophecy or really the plan, their genetic plan. OK, he's like he's hot, hot, hot, but OK.
00:55:17
Speaker
I thought, oh, yeah, I think he's a hot roch. Yeah, he's got the old hot crotch running around. He wants to hop on a plane with Jason Momoa and go fight Dave Batista, I think. But. Sort of. Yeah. And they had a him and what's his nuts cable had a fight where they had.
00:55:39
Speaker
some little sensor things on their hands. And if you swung hard, it blocked it. But if you went slow, it got in. That's because their personal shields and the slow strike will kill faster. We'll bounce. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole shield fighting scene for no good reason because then they never use shields ever again because the shields call the worms. Oh, yeah, I did hear about that. Yeah. There's people live with the worms in the sand and, you know, yeah.
00:56:09
Speaker
The Shire Luke. Yes. Shire Luke. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shire Luke. There's a second one coming out. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know. And there's probably a listener out there that's like a huge student enthusiast and it's like, I will murder Chris in his sleep. I am a huge enthusiast and I'm thinking about doing it. It's one of my favorite sci-fi series ever. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:38
Speaker
The movies have always been problematic, but the books are amazing. Yeah. I mean, look, I am happy for you and I'm going to try to stick it out and watch the rest of it today. It's a good seer. It's a yeah. The it's almost.
00:57:02
Speaker
eerie, like Frank Herbert and Asimov and all those guys from like the fifties and sixties that were like sci-fi writers. Were they prophets? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just like super geniuses that just were like, yeah, this shit's going to happen. I saw like, yeah. Was it a 2001, a space Odyssey? It was like, yeah, you know, people will be eating their dinner while watching their, you know, small screen or thing. I'm like, Oh my God, that's, you know, people watching cell phones, eating their food and disconnected and,
00:57:30
Speaker
Yeah, it's crazy how much stuff they got right. Yeah. And how much, in the end of the year, obviously, Foundation series hasn't come true yet, but conversations about AI and what that's going to look like in space travel, they got a lot of that shit right with very little information. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't have that kind of vision, I guess. No, no. Yeah.
00:57:57
Speaker
I'd say, yeah, I'm sorry. Somebody's like, yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, you do this. And I'm like, yeah, sure. Great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like people like, oh, yeah, I just get a 3D printer and do. No, I don't know. I would print something. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, I'll make a coffee mug and it would have like eight holes in it or something. I don't have that kind of vision. Yeah, I would love to get into 3D printing.
00:58:23
Speaker
But everyone I talk to says it's a nightmare. So I just have friends who have 3D print. I'm like, can you 3D print this for me? Oh, yeah, that's what you got to do. Yeah, it's like having a friend with a boat. Yeah, you don't want a boat. You want a friend with a boat. I keep waiting for one of my friends to get a boat. And my one friend that had the boat got rid of the boat. Yeah, because there are holes in the water that she's throwing money into. Oh, yeah. Oh, that was rambly around.
Spirituality and Social Issues
00:58:52
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I guess my topic's a little, yeah, it was definitely more serious, but just with the holiday season coming up and Thanksgiving and all that, I've just come more and more to question, I don't know, I guess my own spirituality and things and just, yeah, well, I mean, I don't know. I just, you know, I come from a very religious family and I'm just, I don't, I'm not a big organized religion guy anymore. I don't see it. I just, I just want to have my,
00:59:20
Speaker
interaction with the world and is there a greater power? Maybe, maybe not. But I just I just want to be more in the here and now and not try to think about that stuff. Is that wrong? I mean, as a professed atheist, I would say no. Yeah. You know, I mean, I feel like like, you know. There one, there's no right, you know,
00:59:47
Speaker
answer to this. I mean, everybody, you know, you got to do what you, you know, do what does for you. Like, you know, it's like a little bit of Taoism is good and some Buddhism and, you know, some, you know, Norse stuff. And, you know, there's just, I like to cherry pick things from here and there. I would say religion is like philosophy. Yeah. A little bit of a good, too much of it.
01:00:10
Speaker
ruins the pot. Spiritualism is fine. Your spiritual beliefs and your view of the world, first off, it's all fine. As long as you're not hurting anyone else, it's all fine. The problem with religion, especially with religion, is when you get to the hurting people. That's where I have a real problem with it. Oh, yeah. The judgment, I just don't understand that.
01:00:40
Speaker
Christianity has done more harm to people than ever has done good. I mean, that's the whole reason that, you know, the Middle East is such an unsettled place, right? It's all different beliefs. It's a lot of religion. It's a lot of things, but yeah, religion is a big part of it.
01:01:04
Speaker
I feel, this is getting real deep. I feel a real deep disgust.
01:01:17
Speaker
for the pain that is caused to people. I think of people who have lived their lives as gay or somewhere on the spectrum of gay and have to hide it because of their religion or the people's religion around them and the terrible, literal danger and just self-harm that comes out of that is terrible. Yeah. Like you said, the people are like, well, I felt like I had to hide it for so many years because I just didn't know if it would be accepted. Screw that.
01:01:46
Speaker
How much of your life did you not get to live being you because of other people's religious beliefs? It's insane. I think if you want to believe in a higher power who loves you and is benevolent, that's great. But to take that information and use it to harm others is... My higher power loves me but hates you because you don't trim your toenails.
01:02:16
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I just, you know, and my brother, he said he was reading the Jefferson Bible the other day, which the Jefferson Bible, if you don't know, is Thomas Jefferson wrote a Bible. And he basically took all the spiritual crap out of the Bible and was like, here, this is just like, be kind to your neighbor. You know, love and one another, respect your elder. Like it was all of those things left in.
01:02:44
Speaker
You know, Christianity is fine. You come in at a side of love. That's what the world should be better. If we all came at things from a side of what does the most good, I think there will be better. What the world needs now is love, sweet love. But so many problems we come at from a side of, let's look at immigration. All these illegal immigrants are coming across the border and that's terrible.
01:03:13
Speaker
But why are they coming across the border? Why can't we help them? Why? We're the richest nation in the world. We can help people. We are the richest nation in the world. We spent a lot of money on something. Let's say we're like eight bajillion trillion dollars in debt. Who are you debt to? I don't understand that. I saw something the other day and it was like, you know,
01:03:31
Speaker
The fact that we're trillions of dollars in debt and continue to send out billions of dollars in aid shows that money means nothing. 100% means nothing. Because at the end of the day, it's all bullshit. But if you come at all those problems from love, I just feel like the world would be better. This is a weird example.
01:03:57
Speaker
During the pandemic, there's all this conversation about school lunches being free and, oh my God, we can't feed kids for free. Why not? Why not? We have enough money that there shouldn't be a hungry kid in this world. Definitely, there's no American kid going to school shouldn't get lunch for free. Exactly. These schools that are like, well, this kid hasn't paid his food voucher, so he's not getting any food.
01:04:23
Speaker
What kind of heartless bastard isn't going to feed a kid? Yeah. Because it's not the kid. Right. Kid doesn't make money. Yeah. And the school, it's not your money. Right. It's the tax dollars. Right. Yeah. If my tax dollars go to feeding poor kids, I'm happy, man. Right. Yeah. I'd much rather him do that than
01:04:47
Speaker
I put up another statue. My tax dollars. Right. Yeah. Look, it annoys me. The roads are under construction. But we're feeding people's families by giving them jobs. Yeah. I'm cool. Just get on the same page with your construction. Well, that's fair. But spirituality is... The best part about religion is when you keep it to yourself.
01:05:17
Speaker
I mean, the older I get, the more I'm just like, I just, you know, be kind, be empathetic, be empathetic. Yeah. And that's super hard to do. I get it, but just try it. Feel with somebody instead of just feeling bad for somebody. Yes, it's way it involves vulnerability and.
01:05:40
Speaker
I feel like we run into it more because of our jobs. It's sometimes very hard to be empathetic when you're going to what you know is a bullshit call. Right. And I think a lot of EMS could be solved by coming at it from a better place. These homeless guys who call 911 for bullshit reasons so they can get into town. And get a turkey sandwich. And get a turkey sandwich.
01:06:10
Speaker
And it's not good turkey. See, this is the problem. Sure. Maybe if we got them some real good turkey, they wouldn't call anymore. God, we may have solved homelessness. I was talking about it at work the other day. Back in the day, we probably would have just said, just get an ambulance. We're not going to do a report. Just take you to town and drop you off. You can't do that anymore. No. And I'm not saying you should do that, but there's
01:06:37
Speaker
That side of things is kind of
Public Services and Community Challenges
01:06:39
Speaker
gone away. Yeah. But the route, but it's like you talk about, you know, looking at the why. Well, the why is there's no easy access transportation for them. No, there. Yeah. Yeah. The city of Newark just for years and years has had free buses and they don't go everywhere, but they go to like the shopping to a couple of shopping centers where there's grocery stores. Well, they're getting rid of it. What? And I'm outraged. Why? Why are they getting rid of it?
01:07:06
Speaker
Well, because it costs money and blah, blah, blah. Poor people use that shit. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Poor people use that. Yeah. There are people who, who they lead to get, you know, if you're a mother of three, it's a pretty hard walk from some of these places to get to the grocery store. Yeah. You got to juggle three kids, get groceries, carry those groceries back. It's a lot. And it's one thing. Yes. If it's a 65 degree day and there's no wind and it's sunny and beautiful. Sure. But it's not like that every day.
01:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, that poor mother of three is going in the rain, the snow, the driving wind, goddamn wind. Yeah, they still need to get to the grocery store. Yeah. Why isn't public transportation basically free? Yeah. Why do we charge? Amtrak drives me nuts. You're a government funded agency. We paid for the track, we paid for the trains, we paid for the employees.
01:08:04
Speaker
Why are Americans then having to pay $100 to travel between towns? Here's how we solve transportation problems, public transportation. Damn. Should be free. Come at it from that side of it like, oh, we're helping people. Done. Wait, we should help people for just their betterment and to make us feel good, not a reward. Well, that's crazy.
01:08:32
Speaker
But then if you come in it from my side of it, oh, public, the city pays for public transport. These people can then get to their jobs and pay taxes. When they can't get to their jobs and pay taxes, then we have real problems. You know, free daycare for people. There are people who just need free daycare because they can't go to work when they have to take care of kids. Right. And when it's a wash,
01:08:58
Speaker
If they did go to work and then paid for daycare, they're not bringing home anything. Right. So yeah, why wouldn't they just stay home? Daycare is crazy expensive. And there's very little regulation on it. Yes. It's very crazy expensive. People stuff to work. So let's solve that problem. This is why Ron Wizzer for governor. The first thing I did was governor is I get rid of the Delaware State Fire Police. So my platform.
01:09:26
Speaker
But you've got eight of my votes. I saw, this has nothing to do with anything, but I saw a Delaware State Fire policeman the other day who, you know how police departments have started blacking out their letters on their vehicles, which I think is super sus and stupid? Yeah. Police cars should look like police cars for a reason. Now there's Delaware State Fire policemen who are blacking out the letters on their vehicles to look like cops. Why? Exactly.
01:09:55
Speaker
I saw a truck with a dollar state fire police, but the letters were in black on his black truck. And I was just like, what is the point of that? When I'm governor, you're out. Yeah, that is 100% wacker. Yes. Yeah. And then I came in ranting about it at work. And of course, C-Shift's deputy chief from 74 was there. And I said, any whack job that has lights in their goddamn personal vehicle should take them right out to the goddamn cliff and drive their car with them in it off of it.
01:10:26
Speaker
We've got lights in my cord. Right. I have to make quick responses. Do you? No, you don't. No, you don't. Yeah. There's paid people in your firehouse. That's the only people that are going on the call anyways. Right. Yeah. That's I. Yeah, that's a total side tangent. But yeah, someday the other day was like, oh, yeah, it's, you know, for a volunteer to take EMT class, it's just way too much, you know, this and that. I really just want to say, well,
01:10:54
Speaker
Well, how did the volunteer policemen and the volunteer doctors and the volunteer teachers all do? Oh wait, they aren't volunteers. We all started out as volunteers, but times they are a changing. Well, just again, it's the same. The system was bad for us, so it should continue to be bad. How much training did you and I have to go through for free? Right. Yeah. To serve our community, to help
01:11:20
Speaker
other people in our community, we had to do we had to give up a crap ton of time to go to training. Was that right? No. God, no. No, we should have been compensated for it. We definitely should have. I'm going to send an invoice into the state. But, you know, to then go, well, that's how the system should say. Right. Yeah. No, it's. If that's the whole again, come from that compacted side of it. Oh, maybe we should pay people to go to EMT school. Right.
01:11:49
Speaker
Maybe we should pay people to go to paramedic school. We have a nursing shortage in the country. Maybe we should do more to pay nurses to go to school. We're going to have a real doctor issue in this country very shortly. We already kind of do. I have printed up a fake doctor's diploma, so I'm ready. We're practically road doctors.
01:12:21
Speaker
I mean, we say that, but it's getting closer and closer. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I tell a lot of guys all the time, it's two to three years before there's a huge shakeup in paramedicine where we will be doing clinic stuff in the field. Yeah. And telling people you're not going to the hospital. Right.
01:12:43
Speaker
And we're not going to have nurse practitioners like, like such is great. Yeah. But that's not how it's going to be. It's going to be just paramedics in the field saying, no, you're not going to hospital. Yep. Maybe you don't want to tell a health consultation, but. Yeah.
01:12:56
Speaker
But when there's nobody to answer the telehealth, because you and I can see the writing on the wall, when shit doesn't happen up there, it just comes down and becomes paramedics problems. That's how the fire department got involved in all the crap that we're involved in. Nobody else is doing it, so we'll call the fire department. I told my boss of the day, I said, eventually, we're going to have to say no. Eventually, we're going to have to say, we can't do this. It's not going to happen yet.
01:13:26
Speaker
We're close. We're getting close. It seems like every day that there's nobody involved. I mean, we get so close. I don't know how Salisbury does it. We get so close where there's just nobody to take the next call and the call doesn't come. Again, where Salisbury is super, super lucky. I mean, the other day there were 52 calls for service. Yeah.
Thanksgiving Humor and Farewell
01:13:50
Speaker
52. Well, in my last shift by 10 o'clock,
01:13:57
Speaker
We had already run five halls on the engine, and I don't know how many calls were in the city. Right. Insane. Yeah. Well, when you're a fire chief, you'll fix it. Not going to happen. Yeah. Governor, not fire. Governor. Yeah. Well, at least I feel better about myself not being feeling guilty about not. You should never feel guilty about your spirituality. I know I just do sometimes.
01:14:26
Speaker
You know, at the end of the day, live by the tenant or you're a good person. If you feel like you're a good person, I think you're doing pretty good. That's what I try. If you feel like, Hey, did I do the good person thing or do I do the, you know, could you be a better person? Absolutely. Yeah. You know, there's always something you could do to be a better person. You're a bad person though. Yeah. Just every day. I try to do something nice for somebody every day.
01:14:52
Speaker
You do something nice for something, every day. You put your life on the line for a stranger. There's no other nicer thing you can do. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying that even though that, you know, I just try to, I don't know, just try to be more positive about things. Sure. But you, you know, never beat yourself up about spirituality. I think that leads, that way leads to fear and anger. And anger leads to hate. Yeah. Hate leads to power. Yeah. Dark side. It's all the dark side. Yeah, it is. They were trying to warn us about it.
01:15:24
Speaker
Though, of course, the light side's not much better. No, no. God damn you. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, God. Let's be like Obi-Wan. What's that? I said be like Obi-Wan. Be like Obi-Wan. Oh, yeah. Be like Obi-Wan. Yeah. Yeah. I hope people have a good Thanksgiving. I hope you enjoy your Thanksgiving. Enjoy your can of jellied cranberry sauce. The best thing out there. First off,
01:15:55
Speaker
It's not that hard to make good cranberry sauce, just make cranberry sauce. A little orange peel, a little orange juice. That's the trick. My brother ate six cans of that one year. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I like cranberry sauce. His tummy was not happy. I bet it was not. Yeah, I'm going to have some stuffing and some Brussels sprouts and maybe some sweet potato biscuits. I know you don't like them, but I do.
01:16:24
Speaker
Yeah, mate. Yeah. Oh, OK. I'm sorry. And if you did, you see that there's. Thanks. Side tangent ramp, whatever. Candy corn shaped Thanksgiving flavor things. No. Yes. Yeah. And the flavors are. Yeah, they're all like various browns and oranges, and they look like little turds, but it's. Oh, God, let me look up so I have the exact stupid flavors.
01:16:54
Speaker
Where's the Thanksgiving candy? We just move on from candy corn as a society. Well, yes. Yeah. Brock's. Candy corn turkey dinner. The flavors, green bean casserole, roasted turkey, cranberry sauce, stuffing, apple pie and coffee.
01:17:18
Speaker
OK. What the hell is wrong with you people? The person at Brock's that pitched that, you know what they should have happened to them? Beat them in the head with a frozen turkey. They should live their life and enjoy happiness. Yes, they should. Oh, God. Green bean casserole. That is just all it is is dog vomit with fried onions on top. Oh, my God. Well, folks, enjoy your Thanksgiving. I hope your green bean casserole is delicious. Yeah.
01:17:48
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