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Episode 57: Megalopolis featuring Al Bates
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Al Bates is back in the hot seat and he’s brought a giant conundrum of a film: the 2024 flop that is Megalopolis. This film took 40 years to come to the big screen and it was completely funded by Francis Ford Coppola himself. The cast is packed as well with Adam Driver Nathalie Emmanuel, Aubrey Plaza, Giancarlo Esposito and far too many more to list. Driver stops time, LaBeouf shaved his eyebrows, and the podcast crew is largely perplexed. It’s a hippodrome of bonkers imagery and you won’t want to miss this one, so tune in!
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Transcript
00:00:27
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that you would, if you could, and you know that you should, yes you know that you should.
Introduction of Hosts and Concept
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. It's the only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much?
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We're your hosts. I am, of course, very crass, but I am one of us. I'm Chris Anderson. With me, as always, he might not be made of platinum, but every time he podcasts, he makes me say, wow.
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It's Greg Bossy. Yes. Yes. This is a wonderful allusion to. Yes. Thank you. so I'm going to say it's good to be here, Chris. It's good to have you here, Greg.
Guest and Movie Selection
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Yes. And of course, we have a very special guest, a returning guest. Claudio. Oh, no, he didn't. It's Al Bates. Hello. Hello. It's fantastic to be back.
00:01:31
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It's great to have you. And you chose this week's movie, Megalopolis. Yes, I did. I'm sorry. Straight out the gate. was I just got asked, was this revenge for me making you watch Ghoulies go to college? No, this was more, um but especially after you said you hadn't seen it. i was like, oh, fuck, we definitely have to watch this. Have you seen this one before this time?
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I had seen this before, so I saw it in cinemas. I saw it, I think, maybe not the day it came out, but pretty much you know within the first 48 hours of its release.
Summary and Themes of Megalopolis
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And, um I mean, we'll talk about it more, but wow, what a flick. Yes. I can't argue with that. Listeners, if you haven't seen Megalopolis, ah here's just a short summary to hold in your mind.
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Cesar Catalina is a materials engineer and architect who must navigate a minefield of personal and professional relationships to build utopian planned neighborhood called Megalopolis.
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Sure. Yeah. That's right. And it's it's just like real ancient Rome. I think that's what this movie's about. I think.
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Yeah, I mean, that's one thing about this film is I think it's spoiler-proof because like even with that way with that summary... um That is essentially the crux of the entire film is you have just explained everything that happens from start to finish whilst also explaining nothing that happens in this movie at the same time.
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Yeah, it is not a plot-driven movie. This is, as we say around here, this is a vibes-based watch. Oh, yeah. Heavy vibes. Heavy vibes. um And i I hadn't seen this one before. I'll admit that I came into it with... ah I had done my context research before I watched it, though.
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And it gave me the idea, for some reason, what I had read, that this was going to be sort of... a look at new york through the eyes of the fall of rome when in fact this was a look at rome through the eyes of new york and which is a very different experience and one that i'm frankly much less interested in so it was very like oh okay that's what's happening i completely forgot about the the um
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Not how heavy-handed the Rome slash fall of America analogy stuff is, but I forgot it got, like, literally... I timed it. Like, I restarted the film, and it's literally 30 seconds in before there's the exposition dump by Lawrence Fishburne, who says, in many ways, America is, like, the fall of old Rome. I was just like, oh right, they're really...
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There you That is one of the central theses of this movie is that that America is in many ways like the fall of the old Roman Empire. Yeah, I can't argue.
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No. Greg, had you seen this one before? No. This is one I definitely knew about because I've paid attention to film news, you know, so it's like hard to remember when I first heard about Megalodon. Yeah.
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You know? Like it's always just kind of been a thing that has been talked about and kind happening. And then when I heard it came out, i was like, wait a minute, wait, what? It actually, wait, they actually like took time to film that?
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yeah Yeah. I was genuinely surprised. it It almost feels like they released the day the clown cried. Do you know what
Coppola's Journey and Influence
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I mean? Like you've heard about it working on it as a passion project for so long, you never thought it'd actually get done.
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Totally. It was kind of like, yeah, it's like the cinema version of Chinese democracy. well yeah to know if you guys wherever comes the goods and ros album not the concepts yeah yeah but um you know like i remember when that album finally came out just being kind of like ah like what are we going to jerk about now like yeah yeah yeah is this is out wasn't didn't ah dr or taco bell say they give everybody a free taco or dr pepperson a tot pepper said they get a free dr pepper and then rescinded it very quickly when they realized that's the cost
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i mean butd it would have been good press and hey everybody would have you know i guess the tough part is limiting it to oneverse that's right because i would just keep on going in and be like yeah no i'm a different guy give me my that are hall i'm stocking up yeah ah well you guys want to hear about what i found out in terms of context for this man i'm absolutely
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of the filmprint
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can imagine
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so megalopolis premmier at can and may sixteenth two thousand and twenty the director francis ford copla found three taglines for this and boy the first one actually appears on the title card of the film within the film a fable yeah i forgot about that at being on the title card that made me ah do a bit of a spit take like i was legitimate yeah big sip out of a big cup of hot tea you know it was like a
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also not what a fable is as my understanding of fables maybe an allegory and know yeah now next tagline power greed love destiny change oh okay ah guess and the last one which i think is the best one if you can't see a better future build one okay yeah i mean that's fine
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yeah i think that speaks to the games of the film it's intriguing enough ah now what is there to say about francis ford cop ah he directed some of the most acclaimed films ever made the godfather the godfather too the conversation apocalypse now yeah braham stoker's dracula yeah i mean these are five of that five yeah but these are like so around there five of my all-time favorite movies like i what the first two godfathers and apocalyps now every year like if it's an appointment viewing for me where it's just like yep these movies are still my favorite movies ever
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just just checking ah and i'm a big dracula guy yeah me too i lose tons are fun absolutely i used to hate that movie and now it's probably one of my favorite movies of all time i love it like it's just an insane movie um and it's work yeah it's awesome um now he also he directed dozens of movie that nobody likes or even thinks about yeah movies like the rainmakerr more you're a big boy now
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jack don't forget jack yeah yet or whatever tetro is yeahtro as with vincent gallla yeah that's a bad sign yeah now ah there's a lot of biographical information out there for those who are interested but for the purposes of our show the only thing that i wanted to mention specifically from coppola's background is that he did spend some time working under roger corman we always like to salute graduates of the roger corman school and it was dementia thirteen yeah he did for have you guys ever seen dementia thirteen
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no no it's all my list it's worth checking out as like a yeah ah claim direct to origin story because it's just obviously so different to everything else he ever did it is just the a classic kind of coleman style b movie but maybe a little bit you know like all those coleman school dropouts or graduates kind of you can see the start of their visual language in in those movies so it it is i think it's worth checking out and it's from memory it's only like at seventy three minutes or something i think it's really yeah and it's in the public domain is that of nice yeah
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so you find that ding dang thing anywhere now copla first wanted to make a film like megalopopolis back in nineteen seventy seven something comparing the decline and fall of the roman empire to the contemporary united states it's obviously kind of depressing that this has been a relevant theme for longer than i've been alive and it feels like now so more than ever but yeah all i've ever known is the decline of fall of the american yeah now he's
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come close to getting it made a couple times ah but he always had trouble securing finan and
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by ah the twenty twenty s copla had amass ah large enough fortune from his work as a vinter and selling off his wine company that he was able to pony up the hundred and twenty million dollars budget out of his own pocket
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but that's what he did with the copola wines fortune there you go now ah this meant of course that he was now accountable to no one yeah no one could say no to fras for copla on the set of mekalopolis no when copla was initially conceiving a megalolas he had planned on it being not a film but an opera they would be performed over the course of four consecutive nights kind of like waagonner's ah diniboungen okay
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ah while the conception of megalopolis changed over the ensuing four decades i think it does help to keep that in mind when you're trying to appreciate his artistic vision and what he was trying to make here the kind of scope that he wanted it to have
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he would continue working on the script as the years passed by in two thousand and one he had ah table reads in his brooklyn production office he commissioned comics legend and rightwing k jim stranko to whip up some concept art for him and even began shooting some second unit footage around new york city when
Production Challenges and Decisions
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um alarm um alarm this next bit is kind of a bummer
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osama bin laden did a nine eleven oh yeah baros school nine eleven fundamentally changed america's relationship with new york city and this would necessitate some fundamental changes to a movie where new york was a modern-day rome and the collapse of the roman empire would you say new york was kind of a character in this film i think very much well i would say new rome is a camera yeah yeah played by new york city new york is an actor in this film definitely but also new york is largely played by toronto
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oh yeah and green screens of course yeah and do i know not toronto atlanta i was thinking of i watched that greg back in our episode with michael darling about playing with fire yeah it talked about the yafffe kodo movie and the park is mine oh yeah about tommy lee jones taking over central park yeah it was okay but it was weird that they shot it in toron yeah i could imagine ah now anyway he he shelved the project
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ah by twenty nineteen he was finally ready to give it another go he's like all right i've i've got my hands around america's relationship to new york city let's do it he spent several years assembling a cast of all stars cast and this is all killer no filler i got oh yeah oh yeah it helps that there's only like ten speaking rules the film was shot entirely in studios in georgia yeah that makes sense coppola purchased a daysin motel to house the cast and crew for four and a half million dollars just out of his own pocket he's like i'm going to buy that daysze-in motel
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that's crazy
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coplesss behavior on set was allegedly erratic yeah i think there are allegations that he felt up and and of like mebackter on his lap yeah yeah i also heard that he was just like smoking pot in his trailer every morning yeah that makes sense and he's probably what close to eighty at this point yeah somewhere around there um the script would also change from day to day which is incredible since he had already been working on it for forty years yeah they would have locked it down by now
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people were fired and replaced ah were allegations of sexual harassment and ah the end result was a film that largely confused critics and audiences fair to say peter de bruges of variety and so did anna coincidentally and independently ah both compared it to southland tales yeah i i can see that i i definitely a agree and a friend who defends this movie said the exact same thing and i so
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when you guys did southland tails i was kind of the surprise that because i love that i think that movie's phenomenal i love it like it really i think it's very kind of like ah ah weed like mtv produced version of infinite jest or something like it's just or like you know it' kind of has this weird metalgie solidy undertone tour about you know being predictive about the rise of surveillance state and the militarization of america and everything i think it's like
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really presciate and cool and just weird so i was really surprised when you guys were like i don't know about this movie i think i just i i really have a short fuse with satire ands just like yeah oh totally fair and it is on the nose but um i love and i think it's crazy and i think um'm pretty into the movie so yeah that's right yeah i think it's like but yeah i think it's um i don't think it's as good as flintas by far much and
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which is weird how you up there yeah yeah it's ah it feels like a boomer southland tail yeah exactly like we were both you it is boomer south lentails and it's just we it's just yeah ah it only took in fourteen point three million dollars a night ah it was selected to compete for the palm door at the seventy seventh annual can film festival at least so that somebody thought it was at least
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worth paying respect to francis ford copla and accomplishing is forty year dream i mean this is very likely his last movie as well you know like i think a lot of it's always the classic like oh we can kind of tell it's going to be like david bowau you released blacktar and wasn' in his last album do you i ah you know i don't think people would have been as but i think that album kind of saw ah you know what i mean like when whenever we can tell it's goingnna be someone's last thing they usually usually kind of they grade them on a curve yeah exactly
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well other science fiction films of twenty twenty four yeah please if you want to see some sci-fi in the theaters you could obviously go see megalopolis or you could go see eli roth's borderlands oh boy oh that was bad i that's very bad that's movie i stopped after you guys saw that one yeah now i watched it all i relatively big borderlands fan and it was it was just or dave weird okay ok interesting you know how to whet my whistles
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no so so it's a noise is actually one where i'm telling you right now like you don't actually want it's like just really boring it's just like not even bad it's just boring okay fair it's just like do you like canned jokes that you could easily think of yourself like no it's like well these aren't even that good it's like oh great oh and he shits bullets wonderful well now i'm getting curious again that watch the trailer for this shit bullets no i'm sure i'll get the idea from the trailer that'll that'll slake my thirst that'll break the spell you also got kingdom of the planet of the apes
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okay that was all right all right you have you been checking out these new planet of the apes i haven't seen any of the yeah i like them they're they're not like but far high but or anything but um ah good man the the last so matt reads the trilogy that he did they were a lot of fun ah the last movie of that is literally just one for one remake of apocalypse now but with apes instead of you okay good you know it's there there are worse ways to spend a weekend
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you know what i mean they're a lot of fun fair enough right yeah the wild robot i've heard good things about that wild robot i didn't see of that one ah the substance i want to see that one on on list that was very good ah yeah i've heard that one solid alien romulus i did not like her heard um mixed things i've heard mixed things i'm a bigger ah alien guy um even you know like nerdy to the point of loving the eu you on alien and it all that kind of stuff i really thought this was like
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and i love like prometheus and alien conant like i've those are like the second and third best alien movies wow i really did know dig alien romeulos it really felt like you know when they did the force awakens and that movie was just the first you know the has three style like four five and six they just did like the megamix and kind of greatest hits the greatest hits they did the exact same thing yeah for alien and it really
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quiet weird and jarring and i liked fedday albarez's evil dead remake like i think that's like the coolest ever has ever been good yeah <unk>m curious about this one but i haven't seen it yet because again i heard interesting things yeah i don't know if it's like really a spoiler but they cgi slash ai ian hol into the movie just so it's like really and it but like not for like a split second he like plays like a prominent supporting role in the movie
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so there's all this really weird terrible cgi of like a guy who's been long dead ah exhaust yeah it is very ghoulish and very weird it's it feels worse than the peter cushing in rogue one like when they do when they cut them off tarn and just this weird cgi head it feels worse than that last on my list last one that came out last year dune part two you guys dune heads yeah um yeah um i'm partial for sure i only watched the first one and
Plot and Character Analysis
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you know when it got to the end and was like and now our adventure begins yeah that just it i can turn to and a half hour movie that ends with now our adventure begins but now our adventure begins let's get into the plot yes
00:22:06
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burper listen to me the gonna give ya the poum um isno says
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so we open on shots of iconic new york city buildings grand central terminal and the chrysler building and up on top of that chrysler building that's the home of caesar catalina lead by adam driver what you guys think of adam driver in this movie i think that he does a fine job with what he is given to do i question maybe what he's given to do more than i question him if that makes sense
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yeah i kind of think he was horse shit to be i think i'm not as generous as you greg i um especially towards the end when he's like like ah ah you know when they kind of off i'm jumping ahead here in the plot but like yeah i think he's acting on the second half is reprehensible it's still okay okay i think everybody in this movie is bad i'm just saying right um but okay
00:23:35
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that's ah that's certainly a very defensible take oh yes i'm going to say that if everybody is banned that means the director is bad yeah you know i mean desert oh yeah yeah yeah yeah um i think that's what i was trying to get at is it's like eventually i just kind of stopped judging anyone's performance it was just like all of this is just like i don't really know why anyone is making the choices that any of them are making in all honesty i think it comes back to what chris was saying where no one could say no to frances forcole yeah
00:24:10
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yeah and you know i think you you judge an actor on some level on how well their performance serves the film as a whole and here you have no idea what they're trying to serve yeah insec so like you don't there's no way to judge any now he steps outside onto the ah bevelled edge of the needle at the top of the chrysler building and he's about to walk right off the edge when he suddenly freezes time yeah that's right
00:24:42
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this one character has the ability to stop time and it in no way affects any of the plot of the it's not important never stops time to effect anything yeah um i'd also like to take this moment that like this shot with him where you kind of stepping up over the edge the the clouds in the background are moving at a much faster pace than they should be the whole thing gave me this feeling in the way that like the color of it and the way it shot i just wrote down this feels like a perfume madd i feel like it's something i say often the whole movie feels like a perfume madd no leaves the space of a perfume mad
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it is so discombobulating to watch yeah it definitely has that i think perfume mad is ah hundred percent most apt way to describe the the look of this movie this is a two hour and eighteen minute perfume ad it is so bizarre i feel like the ah the green screens in it just the use of them i don't think it ever looks good you know what i mean know it never forks and in this film like there are some shots that i'm not going to say the whole film's ugly
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but there are a lot of shots in it that look just like rough where you have to go like wo you needed to take another pass at this one you know yeah a hundred and forty million dollars but it does not show on the screen at any no this yeah he's he's basically like big budgeting but he's doing it neilreen stuff yeah i mean that's that's what my walk my my wife ella said the thing but if this was a neil brain movie you'd be like wow that's so amazing good work neil brain like you are yeah
00:26:21
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you're actually ah maybe a good director and the fact that looks like a neil breen movie and it's made by somebody who you know the and argument that could be made that he's like maybe america's greatest director i don't know if he you know but at least one of them if somebody said that you would laugh at him totallyily i'd be like yeah fair enough and then yeah the fact that it it feels like an illreen movie and it costs a hundred and forty million dollars criminal it's wild yeah you hate to say that the old man seems to have lost his fastball but seems like he did as big he lost his fastball yeah
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ah now
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he takes a step back from the ledge old caesar catalina and he restarts time and then we get our title screen this is all a cold open love a cold open yeah i love it we get some narration from lawrence fishburn he narrates a lot of this movie just lawrence fishburn is actually really good in this movie i will say he got he hes yeah sure it's a monotone ah monologue but e he's great yeah if you want someone to deliver something with importants soundunding words with gravitas lawrence fishburn can knock that one out of the park
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unfortunately a lot of what he's saying is gibberish a lot of times would have to like just zone out for a while because i would get tired of listening to the dialogue and just be like i'm just goingnna vibe for the next like five minutes before i can lock me again sure but lawrence tells us that we're in the twenty first century ah which would be interesting except for the fact that we have actually been living in the twenty first century for at least twenty four years by the time this movie came you know saying we so it's in the twenty first century and making that the future is some real boomers yeah yeah
00:28:06
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ah fish burn's generation will pop up now and again to explore themes of the film and he also plays caesar's assistant
00:28:14
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we're soon rapidly introduced to most of the other main characters we've got collodeio played by shaa labuffff and it's like no eyebrows cory feldman yeah and he's wearing like verrssace suit you didn't catch that somehow no that they were so intense um yeah and he was wearing like some versace shirts and like a leather cowboy hat he was basically dressing like a riff ramp for a lot of the movie yeah sure
00:28:46
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he is the grandson of wealthy banker k crassus played by john voyt looking insanely old yeah oh yeah we also meet mayor cicero played by gian carlo esposito and his daughter played by natalie emmanuel who i feel it was probably the weak link in the cast she is terrible she is one of one of the worst performances i've seen in fucking anything man horrible she is not stepping up to the plate and she is a big part of this movie yeah
00:29:20
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it doesn't na ah then ah and she's julia and julia becomes intrigued by caesar when she sees him stop time while imploding in apartment buildings's like oh he can stop time yeah very disinteresting it is interesting seems to be like if i saw somebody do that i would definitely be a lot less like quiet and quietly observing and going like what the what the hell but howard that i'm sorry that's that one that i file away for later that's something i'm investigating kind of immediately
00:29:57
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yeah especially when you know it everyone around you is frozen and you'll be only other person moving you'd just be like why no i'm making a bigger deal about this i't need to get out of this car and ask that man a question ah but the car door's frozen you can't and'ss yeah fair do now ah the next thing and we know we're at a sort of fancy soirre everyone's hanging out on a catwalk suspended above a model of new rome oh yeah this was the investor meeting so yes that's right he's trying to get capital to ray to get the money for
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and galopolo well cicero is trying to get money for that bank and then all that caesar hijacks that's right i also feel like a lot of scenes in this movie take place with people standing on things that are suspended yeah something i'm accustomed to seeing it's very theatrical i think it i think if he had done it as an opera he would have had suspended platforms above this yeah that makes sense that makes yeah um so we meet here the best character in the movie wow platinum played by aubrey plaza
00:31:05
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yeah she is a tv news reporter she is funny she is sexy and ah she is one of the few characters in this movie that consistently displays recognizable human emotions when she is on screen anytime she's on screen in this movie it gets forty percent better i would what did you guys think of wild platinum yes she's like the only one in this movie who's doing anything that i can understand even if i dislike it or don't it doesn't matter it's just like i know what you're doing i know why you're doing it and it makes sense to me ah you look like you're having fun doing it
00:31:37
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there's everyone else that's like i don't really get it yeah three i i did hate the may west voice she kind of would do every now and then that's fair sure ah just yeah i didn't know a hundred percent agree with all of her choices but um and she's probably one of the highlights of the film yeah yeah i would agree yeah i would say she was one of the the few things that was genuinely at least entertaining in its own right
00:32:07
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now cicero he announces that the city will be building a new casino before caesar interrupts him with the to be or not to be monologue from hamlet and then announces that ah there won't be any casino he is the city's acting chairman of the design authority and caesar announces that they will in fact be building a planned neighborhood called the megalopolis and they'll be using his exciting new building material
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megalo
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cicero accuses caesar of having a pie in the sky plan that diverts resources from addressing the real problems that real new romans are facing today and caesar argues that this is a plan that will make new rome echo throughout history and for me this was a big problem that i had with the movie that i agreed with cice yeah i mean i think that's ah very fair thing what he's saying this movie has like that weird kind of atlas shruggged slash the fo head
00:33:15
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undertoned to it where the heroes of the movies are the ah dreamers who refuse to play but ah by the rules of i guess you know society society and yeah the sort of great men of history are are industrialists yeah totally like you're just getting big elon musk vibes from this guy and so like anytime he would talk i would just be like shut the fuck up yeah i got less i think it was definitely kind of
00:33:48
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they tried to make a john goldt style um character out of caesar where it's like the creative genius of this ah this guy is only bettering society and everyone who stands to misappropriate his magical megalo or getting in the way of his vision is only you know harming humanity right i don't know yeah it was gross getting me very weird and i already had problems with the film artistically
00:34:19
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so then to have problems with the film will morally it's like jesus yeah yeah ah so ah when caesar heads home finds wow they're waiting for him just sort of like humming or intoning something no but she wants to make their relationship official right now they're just sort of secret lovers he tells her that he could never marry for love so she turns on the tv to see herself interviewing cra and thinks to herself ah good maryresses
00:34:50
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cause he's so rich yep
00:34:55
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yeah any of you guys know anything about this era of roman history this sort of julius caesar cero not really really enough i wish i had read a i was hoping anna would be here for that part so i didn't read up on it damn yeah now ah the next day julia swings by caesar's office claiming to want to retrieve a piece of hate mail that you sent him but actually because she wants to work for him because she saw that he has the ability to stop time
00:35:26
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yeah but should leave to the end of the conversation too it's like on the way i was like oh i did write one other thing i forgot about this you stopped time that was weird that was her ace in the hole yeah exactly what's actually got the quote directly for that but is it
00:35:47
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i saw you disobey the law of physics is it true the great casar catalina doesn't answer to anything boy he's the antihero for our age ah this is you know when people say like if bruce wayne was really a good guy he would just donate all his money to to charity youd have big caesar catalina vibes that's the movie they want to watch this movie instead yeah now let's see caesar takes her to his workspace
00:36:18
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where he has built his own model city this one out of corrugated cardboard and garbage it also seemed to have like children kind of running around in it maybe which confuse me yeah maybe i thought they were like model builders i don't know we couldn't really tell but it was just like look at this like it's like toilet paper rolls in swies and there's like people running around is like i don't know what i'm supposed to make of this actually this is not the reveal i expected dispose to close your eyes and walk through with an imagine me never yeah true way to see a city is to walk through it
00:36:56
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and with her eyes closed she gets an idea of how megalapolis is going to work it's going to be a fifteen minute walkable city sounds great now she tells her dad that she got a job with caesar and he's pissed off about
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she finds out why but he points her into the direction of caesar's old case file appears that cicero was once a prosecutor who tried caesar for poisoning his wife o and for some reason the only evidence in his prosecutor's case file is just old newspaper clippings about the trial no actual direct evidence that's weak evidence and the newspaper clippings say um like somethingming out of a hitchcock like it's it it says yeah yeah
00:37:44
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what was it murder trow unfolds like a hitchcock thriller which i thought was like does so you know that's the confusing thing about this movie they're new rom hitchcock apparently exists and also there was like a chinese spy satellite flyingng over them at the start of the movie the cc yeah yeah that's right that's right that's right so it's just like yeah is this a world where america doesn't exist yeah more maybe yeah rome settled america and maybe yeah who know
00:38:16
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anyway anywhere she then she follows caesar to the slums where she sees him bring flowers to a hallucination of his dead wife yeah confusing that part was a little confusing this part ah fell very much like a perfume a as well where yeah tribe big dark and there's the giant statues falling over and then all of a sudden this magical heavenly flower shop opens up at the end of the street yeah and that's when i realized that writing about this film's plot is
00:38:48
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not like the way to think about it yeah but i can't just write down a series of vibes i can't be like yeah then caesar is mournful yeah you know this is this is what is the language that i've got to talk about so but i do want to talk for a moment about like whenever we go into like caesar's brain or his visions or like when she closes her eyes and walks through the city is this like golden glow to everything which yeah like is a running thees like when it goes into the
00:39:18
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into the floris shop it's like surrounded by darkness but it's like glowing gold and i was like so is the flourish shop there or is it a hallucination like it does a weird thing with how things glow in this movie that made me confuse as to what was even in the movie in actuality and maybe at the end of the day it's not important maybe we're asking the wrong question maybe maybe like i found myself keep on asking the question am i supposed to like caesar
00:39:51
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right but like if i'm reading a history book about rome i'm not supposed to be asking myself do i like julius caesar um just like oh that's julius caesar he's a guy but also this is not a history book this is a movie about fictional b yeah so it's complicated very complicated now ah the two of them bond and a construction site and we get the impression that julia is starting to fall for old caesar time passes and then we next thing we know
00:40:23
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crisiss is having a big party at madison square there's going to be a special performance by vesta sweetwater pop star slash vestal virgin who wearing a dress made from megalon that can turn invisible it's like the same thing they got in ghost in the shell it's got cameras and screens on all sides and that was kind of cool i guessm sure if i had never seen a green screen before i guess ah now yeah i didn't even think about how they wouldve filmed that like with an actual
00:40:58
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green screen dress ah yeah yeah that's fair i hadn't thought about that
00:41:03
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know caesar wanders off go get wasted guy loves getting tour up at parties and the devilish cloio gives a thumb drive to an a v technician and tells him to play the file encoded therein while vesta is performing that song i thought was like ah secret verse to hallelujah or something for like the first
00:41:29
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and yeah and they're all like putting pledges up i took a photo of the qr codes okay and what do they work yeah they work man ah ah wow it takes a yo takes you just to google and it types in thank you for your pledge into the search bar ah ok ok sure enough little east ri for the fan yeah yeah ah now
00:42:01
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ah vesta begins her performance and the wealthy crowd does bid on her for doing something i'm assuming have miss to like i thought it was to just be like i'm going to give you like this amount of money because it's so awesome that you're still a virgin yeah i thought yeah something like that like some old kind of emotional puberty kind of um ceremony or something yeah yeah that they very well could be now at the height of her performance after the bids top one hundred million dollars
00:42:33
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the video file plays on the jumboron and it's caesar and vesta getting busy yeah the crowd completely flips out and starts to riot with some iconography meant to evoke the january six riot like there's ah ah confederate flag that actually more than the confederate flag there was also a flag that had s p q r written on it which was the initials for the roman senate but the que was a cuanonqueue
00:43:04
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okay so naillon i guess topical ah thumbs up yeah maybe so this movie really has a contempt for the common man that's enough that there's like oh all these people that are upset with this system are fucking disgusting freak so cicero demands that caesar step down and he gets arrested for statutory rape while he's driving yeah so i missed when i first saw that bit
00:43:37
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post saw this movie i missed that bit i think i stuck out to go do a we around then and i remember so watching it this time and seeing the whole caesar catalina you are arrested per for a statutory statutory it's just like what the fuck is's happening yeah yeahed by debi sweeney of the cutting edge nice and a fire in the sky also the video that played like i feel like it glitched out and i couldn't really tell
00:44:07
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what was actually happening i had to like read wikipedia to actually understand what occurred
00:44:14
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it's tough that we can't tell if that was just a badly encoded file yeah or the movie yeah but i also have a sense that this is a movie that might make the average person pause and go to wikipedia to be like what' just happened actually yeah doesn't seem that out of place to me now ah julia goes to visit <unk>ssus we get a nice scene ah of wow platinum who's now crasus his wife calling dibs on both crassus and caesar
00:44:46
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and i think she's good in this scene there's a nice little scene i want be
00:44:52
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nowrassus agrees to help caesar out of the jam he also tells cloudio that he needs to grow up if he ever wants to inherit his bank ah caesar is vindicated when it's revealed that both vesta was lying about her age and also he wasn't actually the guy in the tape still he feeling depressed why does the world resist his wonderful ideas so much yeah tough for him he's carrying the burden of genius so julia comes to visit him
00:45:26
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and he says that he can't stop time anymore and she has a nice little speech about how artists can control time it's kind of corny it's kind of inconsistent but it's a nice little moment yeah so this is what once again my wife and i are wondering is his i we both think think that the ability to stop time is a symptom of his creativeness and that he's such a great artist that he's able to have mastery of time yes do you think that's what it is or do you think the time is what he had the time power first and that's what made him a good artist
00:45:59
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no no i think the artistry and i think that's why he needed to get his groove back in order to be able to stop time again that makes sense to me you know and i think also once again because this time thing doesn't actually influence the plot it's not so much like a literal thing that he can actually do yeah it's just like a metaphor for his ability to to tap into his creative power yeah um greg i go to say and you're right that that makes sense to you but it's just like this is the one thing i think about the movie that makes sense
00:46:33
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it this stupid i his like ability to control time like now that we've analyzed it we're like oh yeah that's the thing that makes sense about this move not yeah anything yeah that part we've got so now yeah now that you put it in this new context it's like ok that actually makes some sense yeah we can cross that one off theboard at least now he does get his groove back and the two of them make out on top of a girder that's hanging above the then cicero sees a cloud that looks like a hand grabbing the moon
00:47:08
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then ah caesar he's back in full swing is doing a lot of designing he introduces julia to his mom who's played by talia shiier fras ford copla's sister also i should mention jason schwartzman and dustin hoffman are both in this movie i don't mention them anywhere in this summary because they don't really do any no they do nothing
00:47:32
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now but see he lounges around in bed with julia they play paty cake in their pajamas he's feeling inspired he's in love he's thriving things are going great for sea sort but once for once things are looking up for the old charlie brown of new rome caesar that's right but cloio he's off doing his own he's currently building a name for himself amongst new rome's unwashed masses becoming a bit of ah a populist de demagogue if you will
00:48:06
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then a chinese communist satellite crashes into new rome presumably killing a bunch of people but the movie' is not particularly interested in that it's more interested in the fact that it destroys a bunch of real estate clearing the way for caesar to build megalopolis yeah so i think there was like a debate as to whether or not they should blow up this area and it's like well satellite took care of it so yeah debate's over easy so i think in the original script
00:48:37
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um so the original script of this film had a airplane crash in in oh and okay part of why the script was shelved was because of september eleven and i think yeah all ah france for copla was just like how do i what else could crash yeah yeah or what other non sequitur can i use other than plot to clear the way for the plot to keep going
00:49:06
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now let's see that that that so we just need to get cicero on board and then he can build megaapolis so he and julia they head over to cicero for dinner and she begins building a bridge between them but when she tells him that she's pregnant with caesar's baby all that goes out the window yeah classic dead yeah hang on hang on hey and are you going to name it after me and i did really laugh when they said if it's a boy we're gonna name him francecis like francis forovvala
00:49:38
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free shit you can't do this dude you mad lad ah so ah cloudio he continues gaining in popularity and people ah be enchanting fuck caesar at his behead
00:49:54
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nush an ally of cicero played by dustin hoffman dies
00:50:00
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cicero meets with caesar privately offers to reveal that he framed caesar for his wife's murder caesar leaves julia caesar refuses now good for c wow comes on to caesar and sees a rebuff her somehow yeah and so then she uses her influence ah over crisissus to destroy caesar financially and then to top off caesar's run of bad luck claudio hires a kid to shoot caesar in the face
00:50:31
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a gun i think that it was claudio's assistant that did that in an attempt to press claudia fair enough fair played by baas zahetti yes to see him again because he pretty good i thought yeah i think he did fine i he made absolutely no impression on me which is better than a lot of people who made bad impression that's fair and just quickly just seeing jason schwartzman made me feel so old like yeah because you know it's just like he's got like the paunch of a guy who's in his like
00:51:05
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mid to late forty s now and it's all natural i totally get it you know but made me just go like oh no the march of him it doesn like of him with like a hairless chest and rushmore running yeah or even just this like ah bor to death where he was like you know in his early thirty acute kind of nerd yeah now he's solid dad zone he's like dad with high school students zone exactly and he's also part of the copla clan am i remembering that right yeah that's right he's ah tay sha's son
00:51:41
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yeah okay okay so copla's nephew yeah ah in the one of the original castings i think nicholas cage was originally going to be in um yeah you got let the big dog off the le she would have saved this one there's like um apparently there's like thirty hours of the table reads that have been recorded and like the cost for that was in and if i could digsis for a second because i made a note of that just being like holy smoke please that would have be an awesome movie like paul newman uma thurman robert nero james gandalthei nick cage leo dicaprio russell cro edie falco
00:52:16
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and kevin spacey i think ah imagine him ac probably would be in claudio or something yeah i would have to put nick cage in clothes i was thinking nick cage as claudio there's maybe hope and and here's hoping that you know ten years down the road shia leuffff becomes the next nick cage that's the only way he can salvage his career i think in this yeah this movie had some of the most canceled motherfuckers in it hey like i think that was a deliberate choice yeah like dustin hoffman after met too has had no work yeah
00:52:49
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same as sheila beth ah who else was really kind of like but they doing it john boyd famous hey john boyd ultra white wing man probably i feel like that's part of why d b sweeney is also out of it but i can't be a hundred percent sure that or we just didn't need ah another white guy that looks like d b sweeney oh oh hang on it looks like we have somebody else coming into the studio listeners hang on i'll be right hey
00:53:25
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and we're back and we're joined by of course my wonderful wife anna high sweet hello hey anna how's it going
00:53:34
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you know yeah me all right we'll bust through this last act real quick so that we can get to your final thought but here we go caesar survives getting shot in the face he has his head reconstructed with magellalon and it looks like he's got like half of a glowing skull would look sick but looks kind of dumb oh yeah yeah ah cloio wins some sort of election that was happening and wow uses her formidable sex appeal to convince him to team up with her and take over cras's bank
00:54:06
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all while damning him that is one of the most awful sex scenes i've ever seen in a movie only never needed to see sheilabi go down on or replause yeah yeah it's also i felt really bad for her like yeah the script and be like go to take his face and just shove it in in between your legs and be like i'm going to do what and by the way we're going to make this look as realistic as possible so and do it in ways that are really hard to like simulate for camera yeah i thought the scene had its char
00:54:38
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takesa ah now let's see that the that cresses then has a stroke but survives and lawrence fishburn who has been in the movie this whole time marries julia and caesar in the back seat of the car and then it's saturnal yeah which is basically every holiday combined yeah it's like ancient roman essentially christmas is a hangover of satinallia yeah but when like the early christians were trying to convert the pagans in ancient rome they were just like
00:55:12
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hey we have our own thing too and it's like around the same time and you guys can like you know if you check your head out if you're curious yeah exactly pretty cool cloudio uses saturnallia to launch his revolution and people start to riot cicero fleas with his wife julia and newborn grandbaby <unk>io and wow pop in on crisis to make a move on the bank but he's not as disabled as he appears because he's hiding a tiny bow and arrow in his bed
00:55:44
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which he uses to kill wow and wound cicero this was a very funny sight yeah justing ruled it was like something out of toomin eric was also like because they're like you got a boner he's like yes i have a boner and it's just like this is a weird conversation to be having right now this particular circumstance and context but it turns out it's a it's error yeah it's a crossbow it turns out it's just a crossbow no it was just a tiny boat yeah cause he' tiny bow and arrow
00:56:18
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god i you know i think is hard to take all this movie and no yess a lot i'm also not going to lie when i rewatched it i ate an edible and it kicked in like three records all way through the movie and it was too strong so like by the end of the movie i was legitimately like on the couch like couch locked just going like it's fuck up i feel so sick and nauseous and know i understand why you stop taking notes yeah that's that's a big part of why i stop taking notes
00:56:53
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right so caesar goes and he addresses the rioting masses and speaks on the nature of man pacifying oh he's is here right now crassus wills his entire fortune to the construction of megalopolis and cicero gets on board cloio dies and caesar and julia kiss at midnight on new year's eve freezing time then lawrence fishbo reads the new pledge of allegiance which goes like this i pledge allegiance to our human family
00:57:28
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and to all the species we protect one earth indivisible with long life education and justice for all
00:57:43
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we those were all things that it seemed like caesar were was more than happy to es issue in pursuit of building mega officeas he was all yeah long life education later later later i got to do megalopoliuls first thats that's fine final thoughts fivesar ratings andnna why don't you kick oh i was going to say i'd rather hear your final thoughts just so i have the temperature of the room okay and yeah let's care that's fair and i'll give you a spoiler alert i don't
00:58:13
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hey this movie but i hate i like i simultaneously like hate this movie like i will i will i will definitely be visiting this movie a lot for the rest of my life i think it'll be a movie that i will throw on to show friends who are like i didn't get around watching it and i'll be like dude we have to watch megalopolis right now like you are not goingnna leave what you see i no i like i love it at the same time i think it is like my my favorite bad movie um fair enough
00:58:44
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i it's but ah i mean these ah aren't even my final thoughts yet but don't worry like i think you were in a room of of supportive i yeah well i'll i'll kick off ah for watchability i gave this about two stars yeah he was often needlessly obtuse and the main character was a complete dip shit who i wanted to see fail but there were moments ah most of those moments did involve aubrey plaza
00:59:16
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but i found you know bits and bobs that were entertaining or interesting or beautiful just not anywhere near enough on the weird scale i landed at about four stars and this was not a frictionless experience which i think a lot of movies are this is something that is meant to be challenging and that's sort of you know that is certainly weird for a contemporary film that gets released at theater um so yeah that's that's why i gave it a
00:59:48
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also it's weird that it's so bad and it wass made by a master of the americanine yeah yeah yeah it definitely i watchability i probably give it like i mean it's and maybe two as well or two or like one it's it is not a pleasant experience as a film um has something that i find to be like a cardinal sin that just piss me off is when somebody thinks they're being so insanely profound
01:00:19
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yet they're actually the most jupi in the world i don't know yeah it also does that thing like we were talking i'm talking about how there's like a fan fountain head atlas shrugged and randy and objectivist kind of vibe to it and i think that he's sincere in his belief you know creators are the most important people in society and the creative spirit is one of the most important things in humanity and should never be diminished
01:00:51
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um but he goes about it in that kind of an randyian way which i think if you believe that outside of being a teenager you're probably an actual fucking moron yeah it is like this very kind of um childish view on on on that i think i mean maybe i'm not the guy to talk about that but i think it's just yeah there iss like a weird moral emptiness to this film um yeah from a guy that's been living on his winery for a little bit
Moral Themes and Final Thoughts
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too long
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totally and you think about it like the godfather is like one of the greatest moral tales ever like it is about a man who who you know it it is paradise loss it's it's it's god's greatest angel becomes the devil you know like he was the do no wrong for his father and how greed and power corrupt absolute you know corrupt anybody and even you know like the way he made apocalypse now is definitely bad like he used slave labor to make it but it it was also like this
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very powerful tale about like the absurdity of war and how you know it's crazy but i feel
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i don't i don't know what i'm what i'm trying to say but it's just how how this man was able to make these movies and it's so morally complex but also like right you know they they tell you about these horrible people and how these aren't always to live your life and then he just does this which i don't know it's so weird it's very very yes i hate this movie this is yeah i love it at same time like i watched it
01:02:35
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the whole time like this it' like like yeah i think this is definitely one that ah didn't like to watch what i'm glad i saw yeah totally everyone has to watch this movie once yeah yeah
01:02:49
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yeah so i'm going to give this a watchability of one i feel like the whole perfume mad angle i was talking about and feel like the whole movie takes place in a space where i have i feel like the movie didn't cohere as a film to me as far as believing that the people on the screen were in a believable space it felt a a little bit like um sky captain in the world of tomorrow yeah because that movie completely takes place on the green screen eventually it's like ok
01:03:24
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this is what it is this is the world this this because it's there throughout the whole movies the through line and thus becomes the believable world like this movie sometimes are in that space but sometimes they're not and sometimes we're in other spaces and i was just like i am baffled by this thing i thought that some of it was beautiful like he knows what he's doing i thought that the the comic crashing that sequence i thought was really interesting to look at it was like oh okay i like this um but otherwise it's just i just kept thinking like
01:03:56
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i hate this like just watching it i was just like i hate this movie i hate this experience um i would say for weirdness i'm going to give it four and a half just because it does like like i said it's it doesn't cohere and so the experience of watching it i felt weird because of how weird the movie was if that makes sense yeah its impact yeah yeah yeah i'll give you that and i would also like to say that as stupid as it was i did appreciate like a little bit at the end where like men can be monsters but they can also be miracles or something like that
01:04:31
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ah appreciated that moment simply because i am a person who's born into the man is the actual monster movie ah but i know a lot of people that are just like ah just like the the whole doctor who thing where it's like i've been all over the universe and what i love most are men it's like through all universe and time man is the thing you like most so i like distance again yeah i like that this movie's like no i mean like we can be monsters definitely but we don't have to be like i liked that brief little section fair but if you took that one line out
01:05:04
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i the rest of it could go away it is so weird it's interesting though and you should check it out yeah you are panning for gold in a toilet but there is gold in toilet yeah it's true what about you my dad well so back when we watched southland tales for this podcast my letterbox review was richard kelly's megalopopolis having not seen this movie only having like read reviews a bit and i've just been
01:05:35
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sort of joking with myself ever since that no matter what this turned out to be i would review it as francis ford coppola southland tales and yeah i was very surprised by how much it very much is yeah ah fran fort coppolo's southland tales and then of course i had to ah consider well why do i like southland tails despite it being not very good yeah why why did i find this just very very frustrating yeah and i think
01:06:07
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i think the the two things that i came up with were was one south land tales was made in two thousand six ah you know so there are things that you could do in two thousand and six that i don't think you can do in a movie anymore i think the most egregious thing that was in this movie that you just can't do in a movie anymore was was literal you know historical bearo of hitler you can't can't put that in the climax of a movie anymore
01:06:39
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yeah it's it's yeah embarrassing um and then the other thing was southland tales had more and better jokes like there were were this was not this was not completely devoid of jokes and i did i did laugh occasionally yeah ah yeah like like everyone has said there there were there were some funny bits there were there were some some beautiful bits um i did you know wow platinum with grade yeah
01:07:10
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i wish any of the other characters had been that great literally any of them i'm go put col clodio as my close sex no no he was he was my close second those those yeah the only ones doing something that yeah something and also recognizable yeah yeah so so i think i would give this a watchability of about um ah one and a half but a weirdness of definitely ah definitely for
01:07:43
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maybe even four and a half it is a real weird one um and and yeah it's it's it's worth watching it's worth watching if you like it's worth watching if you like good movies it's worth watching if you like bad movies it's worth watching if you like francis ford coppola movies you know as he's not a bad filmmaker he just he just makes a lot of ja yeah you know
01:08:10
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you got to kiss a lot of yeah that's right i mean i don't i just have to kiss my wife w do you want to stick around are you gonna call it a day i'm gonna call it a night i would say nice to see well match gentlemen thank you for sharing your thoughts with us well i wanted to get some other people's thoughts as well so let's see what's going on with the review review
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you to review now we're going review you
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you review you review
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you with you
01:09:26
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so you can tell that i thought i was going to like this movie when i was prepping this segment because i went to everybody that gave it a lowar rating and i those are the reviews that i got ah so these are all from ron tomatoes and these are all one star or lower
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so first up we've got tony m who gave it one half star
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pompous yet tedious its forced grandilloquence makes it difficult to look at and impossible to admire and i'm going to say if you're using the phrase forced grandilloquence you need to look in the mirror brother yeah that's not one you can just be tossing off
01:10:15
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alexander p gave it one star i've heard the film's detractors cruelly refer to it as megafaoppolios so i'll throw a new one on the table mealoppolis i think mehanopouos is way better than that yeah i would agree yeah yeah that's just cruel you can't take that back ah sinbad a gave it one half star i walked out after about fifteen minutes because i was so bored
01:10:47
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to have a beer at a local brewery in the sunshine on a warm autumn afternoon i got to say i think sinbad made the right choice no i think he did yeah but when i saw it at the cinemas there was a guy maybe three or four seats down the road from me whole time he was going oh oh my god and then maybe in the last forty minutes he just like got up and walked never came back and i was cinema full not full of people but there were a lot of people getting out of their seats and go and yeah i could see getting blindsided by this
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the you know as's the see sound you went pretty early when it came in oh yeah to or chris oh yeah you came out pretty early after it was released like it wasn't it didn't have as much word of mouth at that point or it had been around for a while oh no i think it was like anticipation for it um and we had like posters and shit for it all sydney and stuff so i think that a bit of the advertising was getting probably spent here but we have like an imax screen as well um this film was shown in imax so there was like a lot of you know see itn imax posters everywhere
01:11:59
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that's the way to see it maybe that would have saved it maybe and if i had had some mushrooms i think i probably needed some mushroom yeah now mike n gave it one star this movie sucked balls in my opinion what a waste of time one and done type of movie for me guess he's not going to be seeing that again probably not sounds like and r s o gave it one half star too much name stars in this film and too much was of money and time to watch
01:12:34
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yep yeah if you waiting to see please note to yourself scroll out to other movie be pleasure to your time sorry fracis but this it's worst to watch more than sony marvel movies yeah damn i will say i will say madam webb was probably more watch probably a worse movie but definitely more watch i would agree with both of those things well do you guys want to play a game we'd love to all right we're gonna be playing a little bit of guess the title
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let me tell you about this brand new game where you guess the movie is name you just tell me what the title is and prove you know while about sho is title whereba wipmo whippo whippa kisses title go make big gu v go bear guess ari um on a yeah yeah yeah yeah
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who well
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that's right it's a little guess the title we're doing beautiful ah thank you we're doing the films of mr john voyt played crassus in the movie so what i'm going to do is i'm going to read you a plot description of a film starring john voy i will tell you the role that he played no i won't did that for the first four questions ah and then i will give you three possible titles i want you to guess the title ah you'll want to ring in by saying your own name and if your opponent gets it wrong you'll have the chance to steal
01:14:27
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and okay do you have any questions no yeah i'm good ah right handson buerss question number one okay when a space baby crash lands on earth the baby squad must race against time to stop an evil villain from taking over the universe was that the baby from beyond the stars galaxy babies or baby geniuses and the space baby ah greg ah
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out no no greg said it first okay great ah galaxy babies
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no i'm sorry it wasn't galaxy babies i'm going to steal ah is is it ah baby geniuses in the space baby that's correct this baby geniuses in the space baby it was just assume they would call it galaxy baby it's right that is possibly the best title i've ever heard in my life i downloaded it last night be checking out in the morning is he like the voice of a baby or something no he plays a big villain in the series yeah wow you should check out baby geniuses too ah right yeah definitely what you don't need to see the first one
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all that's good to know and do you you should probably see baby geniuses too well from the director of porkies oh wow yeah now question number two an adorable group of talking baby detectives travel to the deserts of each year to track down a naughty baby criminal mastermind named big baby and his partner the super villain moriarty did john vo or i'm sorry was the title of that film
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ah baby geniuses and the baby mummy's curse babe geniuses and the treasures of egypt for baby geniuses and the oasis of time al al baby geniuses in the treasures of egypt that's like the least ridiculous name it's true you got it you're too for two this is fantastic question number three when valuable objects began disappearing throughout europe
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it's up to a band of brilliant babies all overseas catch the thieves before it's too late it that baby geniuses in the great mona lisa caper baby geniuses in the diamonds of antwerp or baby geniuses in the crown jewels greg greg and baby geniuses in the diamonds of antwerp i had to say it i had to say it fore
01:17:14
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i'm going to seal is it baby geniuses and the what was the last one and the and crown brown jewels yeah that ah one that you're three for three oh my god looking at the actual titles of these baby genius i like thought that was going to be the most i thought mona lisa caper was going to be the name that was a strong first choice yeah yeah no als of course he owns the entire baby genius' box and that's right full rope a dope in the whole time look this that was the last baby genius' question oh
01:17:47
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question number four a young runaway girl hides out in the barn of a retired horse trainer and forms a bond with his troubled fillly that orphan horse my pal the palamino or black beauty two thousand o greg greg black beauty two thousand <unk> sorry greg you're really struggling yeah um al why pal the pallamino
01:18:21
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no that was orphan horse yeah who were of who could forget horse we could forget orphanhore question number five you remember the movie a horse i do yeah it's like that thing about it but i remember my friend my old housemate tim and i when we walked past theinema and it was playing the door was open and we just had like this bomb dropping and then a horse going
01:18:51
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probably it's just like wow really sounds like what ah the same title the ah the only thing i knew about warhorse was that it was originally a stage production and instead of having a trained horse on stage it was like a wiref frameme a puppet that was operated by six guys at once um but that's kind of cool i guess that sounds more interesting they should' have made it a p question number five an aging rodeo star
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shows a young rookie the ropes while they both serve time behind bars is that convict cowboy eight seconds of freedom or broken al is it broken
01:19:40
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i'm sorry greg can you steal eight seconds of freedom so i'm sorry it was that was convict cowboy boy he's made a hell of a bunch of films yeah if the movie has like a really bad title that's definitely going to be what the title that's gonna be the right one i think is that that patent i'm saying yeah question number six international art-dealer ron hall must befriend a dangerous homeless man
01:20:12
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in order to save his struggling marriage okay was that ah simple act of kindness same kind of different as me our the hobo and the heartbreak great greg the same kind of different as me correct you're on that's the title of the movie so that's the most incredible title i've ever heard it's really good question number seven
01:20:43
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a greenpe ship is sunk in auckland harbor in nineteen eightyour and the subsequent investigation by the new zealand police reveals that the french government is responsible is that the seas of change international waters or the rainbow warrior al how the rainbow warrior that's a real yeah based on a true story wow
01:21:11
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question number eight an elderly amusement park maintenance man named eddie is trapped in purgatory and the only way out is to confront five people from his past unfortunately dark secrets from his service in the philippines begin to haunt him was that the five people you meet in heaven the trial of eddie kramer or the clouds of forgiveness greg greg the trial of eddie kramer
01:21:44
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no i'm sorry it wasn't the trial of eddie kramer it's got to be the clouds of forgiveness that's like the worst ti level oh i'm sorry that was the five people you meet in heaven that's really bad title too was that be that a no nature album put or did that i believe so interesting all right last question question number nine haunted by restless nightmares foretelling his untimely demise former president robert wainwright summons his former psychiatrist
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to his upstate residence they discover that there might be more real then a match that the threat might be more real than imagine was that the psychic president ultimate power or shadow land gregg gregg shadowland that's correct greg but it wasn't enough to get you out of the hole al takes it yeah fantastic
01:22:50
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congratulations thank you thank you thank you you greg it it was a pleasure of playing you no it was really a good time good game
01:22:59
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what what a filmography the man has had yeah it's the badty awards
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a now you all master are away um now your master with a bat a award now your arm has a will um now your um as with a badty won
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is
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that's right congratulations to all our nominees you've all been nominated for badty awards it's the only award that we're giving out to tonight greg do you have a badty award i do have a manny award ah so this goes to this saxophone lick that plays during ah ah scene that i realized because of the saxophone lick was a flirtation scene and when it started play i was like all right oh right ah i don't know if it will make a lot of sense out of context but i do have the clip for chris to play here you're going to hear
01:24:09
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her say something and then there'll be a pause then some ruffling and you just have to picture adam driver putting on a second coat not doing anything particularly sexy or interesting just staring at her and putting on a coat so okay if we hear we yeah
01:24:27
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i was hoping you'd tell me
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um he was taking off the other code
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you a a
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a
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and
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follow me yeah you could really feel the sexual tension building yes yeah greg you used to be a bit of ah a saxsman and was this xmanax man yeah could you play that kind of lick you could you teach yourself to play that like if i had the time sure i mean it was pretty straightforward i feel like yeah it seemed like it was just slowly going up a scale yeah is's very is very dumb and it but it was just like it just really felt like it was like by the way they're flirting it's like yeah i kind of thought that
01:25:28
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i didn't quite need it this much layering of the s sacks but thank you for really putting a finer point on it
01:25:38
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well thank you for that fantastic badty word i'm goingnna give my badty award to of course cloio's eyebrows we touched on them a little bit earlier i found them to be very disturbing to look at i always find it very disturbing when a character has shaved off their eyebrows he is just got like thin ones penciled on but because eyebrows are so essential to reading facial expression i find the character doesn't have them it i always throws me off they look completely insane to me every time they do it
01:26:12
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so that was a great way to make me feel very unhappy every time that character's on screen kudos to you cloio eyebrow al do you have a badty word yeah i'm goingnna have to give it to the sex scene between um oh yeah ah well yeah and claudio i think that's like one of the worst sexy maybe the i't know i'm trying to yeah i think it's probably one of the worst ones i've seen oh similarly similarly have you seen house of gucchi also with adam driver no i bet there you could work a bad one out in that one oh there' are some terrible ones between ah
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but i think this is worse than at up until then house sacuchi had probably the the the dubious honor of that but yeah the bady award is definitely going to that ah incredibly graphic aural sex yeah historyyla called auntie wow yeah that was that was pretty weird and the whole time and ch cloudio kept on saying the same thing i love cos so much
01:27:23
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that's a sound board listeners i'm going to keep anyway thank you so much for tunening into the show ah al thank you so much for coming on my pledge it's been great to see you likewise then i sorry but also glad i got to thanks showing you this movie as i said i think this will be a movie that will be with me the rest of my life and i will probably be watching people making people watch it at bad movie nights and whatever yeah yeah it is is a film that rewards it's challenging but the challenge is
01:27:55
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pay dividends and whether or not those dividends are worth the challenges your mileage may vary yeah but you have anything that you're working on anything that you want to plug nothing nothing at the moment hey um if if you're if you have the ah abc listen app you can listen to a show i produce but aside that very little ah i have nothing to plug okay maybe something in the near future but who knows all right listeners if al has something cooking you know we're goingnna have all
01:28:27
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no yeah you know that oh yeah i'm gonna plug the show real quick listeners if you want to help out the show and why wouldn't you you've listened to the whole dingd dang thing maybe you could give us a quick five stars maybe you could tell a friend share it to the timeline on your favorite social media app your you could leave a comment any way that you can engage that's going to help us so anyway that you could keep on coming back and listening i believe next week
01:28:58
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we will be starting our special threeweek series of employee picks next week will be greg's pick xna do yeah'm very excited to talk zana do there such a fun time watching in the discord if you want to come watch movies with us in the discord just shoot me an email you can get that through the link tree and i'll get you on there and ah when is the next watch along you guys are doing ah the next well we watch obviously we watch the oval every tuesday
01:29:31
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tyler perry's television show the oval which i guess would be wednesday morning your my time right that's what i'm at work unfortunately literally i think you messaged me the other day to say hey hop in the discord to watch this and i um like i have literally it's ten minutes past nine o'clock i've just walked through the front doors of laugh yeah off well this this episode will probably be coming out in july so we haven't ah selected something to screen yet maybe it'll be megalopolis probably not
01:30:02
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right july yeah yeah ah but yeah ah so listeners hop in the discord hangout with us it's always fun and ah i'm going to take us out with a little bit of what a difference a day makes the only song that i was able to recognize from the soundtrack and until next week be good goodbye ah good night everybody peace a
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what different ah day may