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EPISODE 2. PATRIOTS FREE AGENCY
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Savage, Snooty and Bret tackle the Patriots free agency.
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:01
Speaker
All right. Hello, everybody. Sorry, my voice sounds probably pretty horrible. Welcome to the Savage Boston podcast. This is episode two here with Sooty Boston and our other buddy Brett, who's just going to go by Brett.
00:00:17
Speaker
instead of choosing some sort of handle or Twitter handle. So we'll just go with Brett because that sounds fine.
Impact of Free Agency on Patriots
00:00:25
Speaker
Yeah. So today, obviously being a huge, huge day and yesterday being a huge day, this is the beginning of free agency for all intents and purposes. Obviously we know it's like kind of the legal tampering period.
00:00:37
Speaker
And by tomorrow, which would be today's March 12th, tomorrow is 3.13, at 4 p.m. you can officially sign free agents in the league year. It's kind of off and running. So today was, today and yesterday both are kind of like huge days for the Patriots. I feel like the best place probably to start would be the guys they've brought back that we already had on the team. So for instance, a couple,
00:01:06
Speaker
You know, home run signings, in my opinion, the signings I've loved so far have been obviously on WENU. I feel like that was a huge get, really a guy that I actually thought was going to leave and you'd have to get someone like, what's his name? Tyrone Smith or Tyson. I forget his name, but Tyrone Smith from the Cowboys.
00:01:23
Speaker
Or a different tackle slash guard, but when I'm coming back on a pretty good deal for you really goes a long way Born also signing again and what looks like a pretty decent team friendly ish deal. I think goes a really long way Hunter Henry signed again
00:01:42
Speaker
He is a huge, in my opinion, a huge leader on the offense and a guy that you really needed. Otherwise, you truly have absolutely zero at tight end. I mean, truly zero without him.
Insights on Key Player Retentions
00:01:57
Speaker
And the last guy is Josh Uche, who signed today on an extremely team friendly deal.
00:02:02
Speaker
through one year, $3 million with up to $8 million in incentives. So I'll start by throwing it out to you, Snooty. What are your opinions on the guys we've retained so far? So I think they've retained everybody that they needed to retain, like you said. And Wendy's probably the biggest one. I think it's really a win-win contract for both because he's almost 27, I think.
00:02:28
Speaker
So it's a three-year deal. So if he plays out the life of the deal, he'll have one more, you know, big contract before he hits 30. If you look at the AAV on the contract, I think it's towards the top of the market for guard, but less so for tackle, which probably gives you a pretty good indication of where he could end up playing. If they end up taking a couple tackles this draft, you know, maybe he's back into guard at some point.
00:02:54
Speaker
Hunter Henry's huge because you literally had nobody else at end He's good. He's productive. I can't believe you stayed healthy this long and like you said, he's a good leader and You can't you're a very bad team right now. So you need to all the talent you can and then the Uche won, I mean, I guess he really wanted to play here because I
00:03:19
Speaker
You know, he's, he's gambling on himself, right? He's, he's betting that he's going to be the 11 and a half sack guy that he was the year before. Right. Cause if he hits the market off an 11 and a half sack season, you know, he's making triple that. Um, so I'm overall, I'm, I'm happy with who they've signed. Um, you need to keep the talent that you have. That's that's step one, stop the bleeding. Uh, Uche is the first player drafted in the first three rounds in a decade.
00:03:49
Speaker
that they've extended on a second contract. And it's a one year deal in a decade.
00:03:56
Speaker
Yeah, that's ridiculous. I mean, he, I hope he returns to who he was. I mean, last year was a really, he was only able to utilize on like 40% of the snaps or something. And he really became a third down guy, you know, like a specialist and he really didn't get after the quarterback all that well. So probably some of that due to Judon being out and him getting more focused. But yeah,
Defensive Strategy with New Signings
00:04:19
Speaker
if he can return to form at all this year, I think that would be obviously massive for him personally and massive for the Patriots.
00:04:26
Speaker
If you get Keon White on the early downs playing D.N. and then you kick him inside and bring in Uche, you know, in obvious passing situations. Yeah. That's ideal. That's kind of how Keon White was used at Georgia Tech. He's built for that. I mean, that guy's insane. So I'm not not that we were ever really too worried about the defense, but this should. This is good. It's good. Bring it back is good. Yeah. Brett, what do you think?
00:04:54
Speaker
I'm surprised Nudy didn't mention anything about his boy Brissett over there, you know, getting that quarterback coming back in. It was probably the most lackluster signing on the free agency. I get why they did it. I'm not totally opposed towards
Quarterback Strategy and Brissett's Role
00:05:10
Speaker
it. I mean, a one year deal on $8 million, which is really short money for a guy that's just really your prototypical bridge quarterback, but he's the biggest, like,
00:05:22
Speaker
Uh, no, no luster signing that I think we've had so far, but just surprised that you didn't mention that. I know he's been, uh, big on the QB train on who we needed to do to get in front of that young quarterback that we all anticipate drafting. But you know, overall, I do agree with what he had to say about the signings. I think on when it was like the clear must and, uh, right behind that was Henry, you know, you needed to make sure that you had.
00:05:49
Speaker
some you know solidification with your offensive line and Needed to make sure that you had a good security blanket and a tight end. I'd like the born signing I mean, I like the contracts. I feel like Elliott and Mayo And you know seemed to have a good approach here on what they're trying to do with the team they signed the guys within the roster they had to sign and they've you know brought in a couple pieces to backfill those immediate holes and
00:06:17
Speaker
You know, I think the one that was sort of intriguing was Antonio Gibson signing I look at him as kind of that like third down back, but you know, we we obviously need some help with Stevenson back there and you know, probably not gonna see Zeke again So having someone like Gibson who's still relatively young gives another weapon to the offense. I thought that was good
00:06:40
Speaker
you know really I think we're all just waiting on pins and needles to see what happens with Ridley and what's going on with the wide receiver game obviously you know a lot in the draft and I'm sure we're gonna talk a little bit about the prospects on the draft it's pretty deep on wide receiver but I just think obviously that Ridley signing would help slot guys more appropriately and hopefully when reports come out on what we offered and we actually land them the numbers look good but if we fall short and we
00:07:09
Speaker
didn't come in big swing. I think Wolf and May were gonna have some accountability on their hand on where we're at and what we're trying to do here, because that's a good free agent, good young wide receiver, help slot some guys and bring some more depth in the wide receiver around that. We really need to take advantage of knowing their cap space. But like I said, overall, I like the signings. I just think it could be a little bit more.
00:07:35
Speaker
I would say this, let me get in here for a second. I'd say let's touch on, before we touch on Calvin Ridley, because obviously that's kind of its own, that'll be its
Dismissal of Justin Fields' Trade Rumors
00:07:45
Speaker
own thing. I'd say just to touch on Brissette. So today, obviously, right, everyone's like,
00:07:50
Speaker
I know we talked about Felger and Maz a bit, right? And how much people can tolerate something like the program Felger and Maz, which I like a lot of their program because it's great entertainment. It doesn't mean they have great football takes. It's great entertainment. But the problem I had today was, as we've been talking about off the air, so to speak, is the quarterback problem and what they're going to do at quarterback.
00:08:17
Speaker
I like the Brissette signing a lot because in my head, the intention is you sign Brissette as a clear bridge, a clear one-year bridge, a good guy, a good locker room guy, a good system guy who's going to help lead you. He's there.
00:08:35
Speaker
to lead the quarterback that you were inevitably going to draft. Are you gonna take someone at three? Probably. I think that's actually more and more likely by Brissett signing that point. I think Brissett's gonna help guide that person. Now, what I can't stand, and we're gonna talk about now and I'll let Snooty go off, is I can't stand people calling and talking about Justin Fields. Now, I can't stand it, especially after they signed Jacoby Brissett.
00:09:03
Speaker
What the fuck are you calling for? It's already done. There's no more signing of Justin Fields. Not only do they not want him to begin with, but now you're still calling to get Justin Fields to trade for Fields and give up what? Draft assets? For what?
00:09:20
Speaker
to have three quarterbacks in the room? I don't understand what the fuck is, I don't understand what's wrong with people. It's a ridiculously stupid take, in my opinion. Yeah, so I'll let Snooty take this. What's your feelings on the Justin Fields stupidity?
00:09:36
Speaker
I think it's fucking moronic for two reasons. One, I think there's three reasons. First was the, you know, draft capital discussed to acquire him. People were like, would you give up number 34? Fuck. I'm not giving up 34. That's ridiculous. I'm not even giving up. What do they have 68? Is that around third round pick? I'm not even giving that up. If he was worth anything, he would have been dealt by now. If he was worth anything, the bears would be keeping him. He's no market.
00:10:04
Speaker
I got flooded with this with people going, oh, well they're only drafting one because of the Panthers. No shit, I'm not stupid. But the fact that they're sitting at one, if he was a bonafide, legitimate franchise quarterback, they wouldn't be drafting a quarterback at one.
00:10:18
Speaker
They would be either be trading down, most likely, and picking up draft picks, or they would be taking Joe Waldt the left tackle to pair with the right tackle they took last year, or they would be taking Marvin Harrison Jr. They wouldn't be entertaining trade-offers that are completely non-existent, so if you need further explanation as to why nobody fucking values this guy because he's not that good, look around. Almost anybody will trade anything for a quarterback if they're half decent. Mac fucking Jones was worth a sixth round pick.
00:10:47
Speaker
Yeah, right. Matt Jones has also done more than Justin Fields has done in the NFL. The only thing Justin Fields did was he ran for 1000 yards one year, which don't get me wrong, that's impressive. But he hasn't passed or more than like 3000. I don't think he's even broken 2750 yards 2750 yards in one season. He's not good. He's not a good passer, right? He has tools fine, you'd have them for one year, then you'd have so you're going to give up significant draft capital to get them for one year.
00:11:17
Speaker
It makes no fucking sense. The alternative to that is you pick up his fifth year option, which is expensive, so now you're putting decent money, pretty good money, for two years of Justin Fields. As what, your bridge guy? Right, so that doesn't make any sense to me on top of that. The other one, and Zoe talks about this all the time, that they'll take, oh, if you draft PENEX in the second and then trade for Fields. What the fuck, man?
00:11:42
Speaker
If you're taking a shot on Fields, it's to see if he can be the guy. You don't take him and then draft the guy who's going to replace him. Fields might even be younger than Penix. He legitimately might be younger than Penix. That's just so fucking stupid. It doesn't make any sense. No part of the plan made any sense whatsoever. He's not good. He hasn't been good.
00:12:06
Speaker
The fact that he got drafted by Chicago part of that, probably, that's where quarterbacks go to die. But, you know, I don't know, that's too, sorry, I don't care. It doesn't matter. If they broke Mack Jones here, what do you think Justin Fields is gonna be here? They're gonna be a bad team. You can't look for the quick fix, you can't look for something like that. Fields is not good, I'm sick of it, stop calling in, stop tweeting, stop doing all this stupid shit with these stupid fucking takes to go get Fields. Fields sucks.
00:12:35
Speaker
Yeah, I just think you hit it on the last point right there, where you basically said they're looking for a quick fix. And that's why I'm okay with the bersat signing. And like I said, he's your prototypical bridge quarterback one year signing, like a veteran considered guy. He knows offensive coordinator, he knows the Patriots in New England. So like, I'm good with it. He just doesn't really kind of make it pop. But in reality,
00:13:00
Speaker
I didn't want them to make a splash on the QB market to try and go out there. You want a bridge guy, and you want to go into the draft, and you want to get the next guy. Like you just said, them getting fields makes no fucking sense. It's literally just being like, we're going to draft a guy at three, and then we're going to trade our draft capital and drop cap space in a guy like Justin Fields. That makes no sense. So that was the part, I think, that pissed me the most about any of the calls that come in or any action I see.
00:13:28
Speaker
on comments with regards to the QB play. And there's this moronic approach, whereas they look at the signing up for set and they basically say, Oh, this is your plan for the quarterback. And it's like, I don't expect percent to play past like week six. You know, it's just like, we're getting a young guy in there. We need to get them into the system, get them ready. Don't throw into the rules right away. But like, know the fact that the guy in front of him is not the guy.
00:13:58
Speaker
You get a guy like Justin Fields or you go like stupid and sign someone like Kirk Cousins. Like what are you pot? What are you trying to do there? Your team is not good enough around the quarterback and ultimately you have to win it in the draft and you have to go find the guy. So it, I don't know what you're looking for in the few agent signings when it comes to quarterback play.
00:14:19
Speaker
aware they're at. Like I said, it really has to be with the wide receiver, but I couldn't agree with you more. I think the conversations about Justin Fields or code of what it should is within the free agency as it pertains to quarterbacks are just moronic takes that people just don't understand like the actual position of this roster. They need to rebuild and it's going to take more than a year to do it.
00:14:39
Speaker
Like I get it when people want, like people were talking about Kirk Cousins, right? Like Kirk Cousins makes sense for Atlanta where he went. He would have made sense for the Vikings too and they really wanted him. But like Kirk Cousins solidifies your offense. That's a really big upgrade for Atlanta. I mean Atlanta had really terrible quarterback play since Matt Ryan. They haven't found anyone. So Kirk Cousins being there makes that a really decent team. I'm interested to see how they play this year.
00:15:07
Speaker
But that was never really a true option for the Patriots because their roster is too far away. And he would cost too much money. But I was trying to wrap my head around why people, they were like, OK, they keep saying, would you rather trade for fields? And you might pose the question on Twitter to get, whether it's engagement or whatever, but to say, all right, how about you draft Marvin Harrison Jr. and you trade for fields?
00:15:34
Speaker
And I think, at least, thank goodness we're now realizing that Justin Fields doesn't have a trade market. No one's trading for Fields, especially not 34 overall.
00:15:44
Speaker
That's not a player that's, I don't even know what's going to happen with him. I don't even think they want him around necessarily for a rookie quarterback in Chicago. I'm hearing like they're trying to do what they can to get rid of him because like he could, they don't want him to be a bad influence and put pressure on a rookie. Like they want Caleb Williams to be their real guy, like their real quarterback. And Caleb Williams is a better quarterback than Justin Fields.
00:16:08
Speaker
And I think he will be, I think he's a pretty dynamic player. Now, is his brain right? I don't know that. Is he gonna fuck up because he's like an egomaniac? Potentially. I don't know where he's really at mentally, but there's a little bit of red flags. That's his real, why he's not a homerun. He's got somewhat of a flaw with his father and some narcissistic tendencies.
00:16:36
Speaker
Amongst, you know, Jane Daniels and Drake may have their flaws too. But, um, but yeah, you know, there's no true home run in this draft. Kayla Williams is the closest thing. And I think Chicago's going to do whatever they can to get Justin Fields out. Um, pivoting slightly to, to the guy you mentioned with your last take is Calvin Ridley. So Calvin Ridley.
00:16:59
Speaker
right now. We've been following along, right? We're following all week, especially in the last couple
Potential Signing of Calvin Ridley
00:17:04
Speaker
days. It really heats up. Everyone wants Calvin Ridley. He's the top wideout in the free agent market. I think he would be a great fit here. I think he's a legit outside wide receiver. He's a good player, good route runner.
00:17:17
Speaker
And he's the biggest guy since Pittman didn't hit the market. But the problem is, everything we're hearing now the last day is that a decision will not be made until after 4 o'clock on Wednesday, which makes you think, why would he be waiting until after 4 o'clock on Wednesday? Which again leads you to the conclusion that he's more than likely going to resign with Jacksonville.
00:17:43
Speaker
which sucks. So what are you guys thoughts on the Calvin Ridley situation? So to clarify what you were talking about, if he resigns with Jacksonville before four o'clock on Wednesday, which I believe is the official start of the new league year, then the draft pick that
00:18:04
Speaker
uh, Jacksonville sends to Atlanta is a second round pick, but if he, he resigns or signed somewhere else after that point, then it becomes a third round pick. So it behooves the Jaguars to resign him after four o'clock on Wednesday. Um, look, I don't know, everybody keeps saying that the, you know,
00:18:25
Speaker
the offers on the table they haven't heard back etcetera etcetera i don't think he's leaving i think he's gonna stay i think the only reason if you're the patriots you don't pull the offer walk away entirely is i don't know who he's represented by but that could kill you know relationship with the age agent so lucky for you internally must you just have to pivot to go somewhere else go to the trade market uh... t higgins would probably cost thirty four and maybe if
00:18:54
Speaker
future fourth rounder or something like that, future third. You know, who's the guy in Keenan Allen? Supposedly, everybody on the charges is on the table. But Keenan Allen's available. I don't know. I mean, look, I think the overall approach to free agency that they've taken, and I think it's a smart one, is a measured approach. I know you have a ton of money to burn. I know everybody wants to get a big splashy impact player.
00:19:24
Speaker
I want Ridley as well, but you have to be smart about this.
Patriots' Free Agency Strategy Analysis
00:19:28
Speaker
You effectively have a blank slate. You have three premium picks, especially third overall. You just cut Devante Parker to free up $130,000 in cap space, but realistically, it's just clearing up a roster spot. Don't put bad contracts behind
00:19:48
Speaker
on the books. You're fighting to get rid of the few bad ones you have now, just keep them away. Yeah, but what's a bad contract for Calvin Ridley? He's almost 30, so you can't sign him for five years. What's a good contract for him? 17 mil a year? 18 mil? What does he want?
00:20:09
Speaker
You're going to have to overpay, and I don't know if they'll ever really entertain this, but you're going to have to really overpay for outside free agents. I know a couple guys took what seems like a hometown discount here, but nobody else is going to do that, especially a receiver, because you don't know who your quarterback is. You don't have a good offense. You had a horrible offense. It's not exactly the greatest climate. Everybody talks about the tax differences, things like that.
00:20:39
Speaker
just sticking straight to football, like you're going from a borderline playoff team to the team draft third overall. You're going to have to pay for that, right? Like that's just a fact. You're going to have to pay a premium to get anybody to come here.
00:20:54
Speaker
So if that, to me, if that means you overpay one guy to help improve your offense, like I would have been fine overpaying and when you I'd be fine, fine overpaying for a tackle to come in. Um, I don't know, like Jonah Williams, his name, he keeps getting tossed around. He could be a decent stopgap left tackle for awhile if you don't, or if you're not able to get one in the draft, but you know, you're going to have to overpay and to a certain extent, fine. It's not my money.
00:21:18
Speaker
It's it's crafts money and you can create cap space. You don't need to create cap space, but you could if you need it to so Yeah Yeah, I got you. Yeah, it's um, you know, I was trying to I don't know brat. What's your opinion on Calvin Ridley? Yeah, I mean First of all, I never heard a number and you kind of hemmed it hard about like, uh, you know We got to overpay if we're gonna overpay this is where you're gonna go but then you know, ultimately We don't know what the number's gonna be
00:21:46
Speaker
At the end of the day, this is where I look at it. I think we should try to go big for this guy. So we should have put in our best offer initially and really try to land him. I do think you guys are right. There's probably a good chance we're not going to get him based on the fact that he hasn't signed anything as of yet. But when numbers come out, let's see where we landed. And at the end of the day, we really need to make sure that we are being competitive on market for guys like this.
00:22:16
Speaker
of immediate needs. We have the freaking cap space. We have the clear and obvious need. And like we've been, we've been wise in filling in the holes and using our cap on some of like the staple positions that we needed to fill. But like, you know, sometimes you got to go big for guys like this to lure them in and try to get them in place. And, you know, I just look at Calvin really as being that guy.
00:22:39
Speaker
Yeah, if we don't get them, which I kind of think we won't, I do think we got to dip into the trade market. You know, I know we talked about Higgins and, you know, I think even I have potentially be out there, you know, so if there's something like that and it's not a, you know, not a crazy deal and we can go out there and land something like that, I think that'd be huge. You know, anything we could do to try and support a young quarterback coming in and give them that blanket, someone that's going to help them out other than
00:23:09
Speaker
you know, you got Hunter Henry, you got Kendrick born. I mean, I don't know what you got with juju. Uh, and then popped on this. I mean, there's just not much there, right? You need that guy. And I do think we'll get it in the draft, but that's not enough. You need to go out there, be aggressive out in the market. And that's why I think Ridley's got to be that guy. So we'll see what numbers come back and see where
00:23:32
Speaker
in a wolf and may or at. I mean, what'd they say? They're going to spend a big bag of money this offseason? Well, we'll see. I mean, that feels a little bit like the Red Sox promise.
00:23:42
Speaker
But we'll see what happens. I mean, obviously, the difference being, as you know, is just the cap. In football, they have to spend up to 90% of the cap on average over three years or something like that. That's in the CBA. They have to spend money. They can't just cheapskate. The Red Sox obviously went from
00:24:08
Speaker
being a team that spent in the top three of payroll for a decade to their like 12. You know what I mean? So there's like a clear, huge decline there, which is why people are so frustrated. People are frustrated with Kraft because he's not spending like cash money.
Strong QB Draft Necessity
00:24:24
Speaker
Like he spent a lot of cash like three years ago when he signed John U and Hunter Henry, like all these dudes and spent a lot of cash. And like, I don't think
00:24:35
Speaker
think they're necessarily going to do that this offseason. Like we all said, like, oh, that'd be cool. We'll have a huge splash. The problem is like the timing is not aligning. Like you don't, you need to draft and develop a rookie quarterback. This is the problem. Like we're all stuck on, right? Because we don't have the guy yet. As soon as you take it in my, in my opinion now, I think you're
00:24:53
Speaker
pretty much going to be taking Drake May. And that's fine. I think Drake May has a lot of potential and a lot of ability. And I think he could develop in a really good player. That'd be awesome. It'd be awesome to have a franchise guy back, someone you can really believe in, because I think the fan base needs someone to believe in. Then you talk about, all right, cool. What do we do to make
00:25:16
Speaker
this offense work what do we do to make it home but until you have the the the composer you know the the person in charge until you have the maestro you know the tom brady it's hard to talk about offense construction because you don't have the most important player on the field with a job so that's what's frustrating for me is like
00:25:38
Speaker
You know, yeah, of course I want Calgary League. Of course I want explosive players. Maybe Hollywood Brown. I love, of course, like you trade for, you know, again, Ayuk is great. T Higgins is great. What's the other dude? They threw a Keenan Allen. Mike Williams from charge. The Chargers are trying to unload their whole fucking team for some reason now with Harbaugh.
00:25:58
Speaker
So like there's a lot, there's a lot, there's some talent out there. I, of course, it's easier just to drop money on Ridley rather than trade an asset. Like I would really prefer not to trade 34. Like I, I just, you know, I just think that's a, you're going to want that. You're going to want to even trade that down and get more guys. Do you know what I mean? So you need, you need players. So I don't know how you guys feel about that. I think, um,
00:26:22
Speaker
So two things. So to get back to your point, to get rid of, you may have to pay an average like 22 to 25 million a year. That's a lot. That's a lot. But I mean, you're talking again, what Christian Kirk, Christian Kirk got like 17 a year or something, right? In Jacksonville. So, I mean, above that, let's say Ridley gets, if you're talking
00:26:43
Speaker
Just use that 17 to 20 in Jacksonville. You have to pay 22 to 25 plus to get them to come here. I think the most promising part, and I think Savage, you're the one who kind of talked about it briefly. I think the most promising part of this offseason thus far is the Gibson signing.
00:27:04
Speaker
Not because Brett as Brad. Okay. Sorry. Sorry Brett not because it's he's a huge impact player or anything like that But it signifies that they recognize the deficiencies that they had before They haven't had a true third down back since James White retired or actually before since James White got hurt, right? so that's been for decades the literal decades the Patriots had a good slot receiver and a good third down back and
00:27:31
Speaker
And then for the last like four, five, six years, they haven't had either. They had whatever Jacobi Myers was as a slack guy. Don't get me wrong. He's good, but he's not a true like yak guy.
00:27:41
Speaker
And they had, once James White got hurt, they didn't have a true third down back. So it's good to see that they are like, okay, we need a third down back. Again, a young quarterback's going to need that. Most offenses need that type of player. So to me, it just signifies that they are, okay, this is what we were deficient in before. This is what we were missing. Let's go out and address those needs.
00:28:04
Speaker
But to your point, you can't do it in one year. So until you get the quarterback, you don't really know where you're going to be. So it's, it's absurd to, you know, dump all over the team right now, just because we're not even, we haven't even started the off season yet. Technically, it doesn't even start till four o'clock tomorrow. So yeah. Oh yeah.
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah, and we when you talk about Like this really is like the rebuild, you know, like you could have named the podcast the rebuild, you know Like this is a true which to be fair. They should have done this shit four years ago As soon as Brady left, they should have torn it to the fucking studs But instead they let the roster especially the offensive roster melt into oblivion where we really have
00:28:51
Speaker
a really poor offensive roster. I mean, there's, there's just, there's some blue chippers on defense still, but on offense, like, I don't know what's going on. So yeah, it's a true, I think it's a really true rebuild. Um, and in, in part, that's, that's exciting. That's really cool. You know, we get to dissect it and watch and see how Elliot Wolf kind of organizes this, but can promise you this, they have to get the right quarterback or else the rebuild won't
Discussion on QB Prospects
00:29:20
Speaker
work.
00:29:20
Speaker
It can't work in today's NFL without the right guy at quarterback. And it seems like we all wanted Jayden Daniels. I think he's gone. I think, you know, as soon as the commander signed Marcus Mariota, it feels too obvious that that's a player that's going to try to help and groom Jayden Daniels. Maybe we're wrong. Maybe that's not the case. But it seems like every draft analysis guy jumped on Jayden Daniels, even in the betting, the lines all jumped to Jayden Daniels going,
00:29:51
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Going to overall so i think jake may is your guy unless there's some Ridiculous chance that jayton mccarthy hops him because of god knows what reason But yeah, that's that's kind of my thoughts on that so i think it's i think it's drake may and they they need to hit so Yeah, and you know what good i hope it's drake may
00:30:14
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Uh, honestly, like when I'm looking at the three, like I think it's Caleb Williams consensus, number one, clear cut. And then after that, it's been obviously a conversation piece and Daniel's coming in late to the conversation, elevating himself to the point that, you know, now he's the odds favor for number two. Okay, fine. Let us take me. I look at me and I'm just like, he's been the guy for years in college. And honestly, his team sucks around him.
00:30:42
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So it kind of deflates some of his value. He's bet. He's kind of has that exhaustion of being the guy for so long that people stop focus on the hype. Whereas you guys, you get someone like Daniels, who's, you know, had a obviously phenomenal year wins the Heisman and you got JJ McCarthy, who we all knew would going to go into the combine and he's just like an athletic freak and wow, people good. Let the dumb people chase dumb money.
00:31:04
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Let's get May. To me, that's the guy I wanted him from the jump and I've been on that bandwagon beating that drum from the beginning, so I'm good with that. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's, uh, I think it'll be exciting when, um, it'll be really exciting when the draft happens, obviously. I think the draft will be, uh, excuse me, the draft will be obviously a huge day.
00:31:28
Speaker
Talking about free agency, it is exciting. I love free agency. It's fun. I think it proves the NFL's free agency and NBA shows how exciting it can be in the offseason to have a true free agency and fans get excited and galvanized and they can dream about their team. They can get into it by season tickets, whatever.
00:31:52
Speaker
I think it just again shows just how fucking terrible baseball is. Just truly how terrible baseball is. I mean, it's like, and I mean, not necessarily the sport, just the free agency. It's absolutely pathetic. You mean the reigning Cy Young champ not being signed in March is a problem?
00:32:13
Speaker
Shocked like it's just the worst. I mean the literal worst to sit there and we're like, alright cool full throttle, baby Here we go. And then it's like it's fucking March 12th You have a dude who's trained in Boston the whole freaking, you know wintertime and John Henry's like yeah, she's like I don't want it, you know, and it's just
00:32:37
Speaker
I don't know, it pisses me off. So at least it's fun to have, you know, fun to have for agency the way it is. So any other next important moves you guys looking for for the Patriots before we wrap up? What's your next move you're looking at? Probably tracking where the their scouts and stuff go on pro days. I know that they had one next.
00:33:01
Speaker
and someone else, no, they had a wide receiver coach and somebody else. That's where their scouts are today. Well, yeah, but that's quite a few players there, but no, but they had a wide receiver coach and somebody else down in South Carolina, Xavier Laguette.
00:33:16
Speaker
Green Bay is a history of taking wide receivers, and obviously that's where Wolf came from, that were explosive athletes that were very good at kick return. That's what Legette is. I think he's somebody that we should, at 34 possibly, that could be very much in the mix for pick 34. So watching stuff like that, see where they're going, that could give some type of indication of who they're looking at and who
00:33:43
Speaker
Um, who could be on in, in play for certain rounds. Nice. Brad, what do you think? Yeah, I'm not tracking the scouting, uh, quite as much as I'm mapping him out over the, over the radar. He's on the plane trackers going, he knows exactly where these guys are at.
00:34:08
Speaker
getting their updates. I mean, Jesus running the running the scout team over there at a Foxborough, but not for me. I guess it's, it's, what are we doing with the, my receiver? And I feel like there's enough play before we get to the draft where we can make a move. And I just, I would like to see us be aggressive there. There's enough chatter out there about how
00:34:30
Speaker
Yeah, we're in on Ridley, but then if Ridley is not in there, just chatter about Higgins right now, like, okay, like, can we try and get a guy like that? So I just look at it and say, we have enough assets. We have enough leeway to try and get that guy before the draft. And I think that just slots things so much better for us going into the draft, knowing we're going to get that QB number three. And then, you know, we got enough pieces within the rounds and, you know, maybe we got to trade someone. I get that.
00:34:57
Speaker
We just got some move and the wide receiver depth is so deep that with all the scouts we got traveling all over the country, I'm sure we'll find someone in that mix. I just think get someone before we get to the draft and the wide receiver core is a must and I want to see something happen there.
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah, true. I think, you know, I think it's not bold to say, but I think this team will be better than last season. I think they'll be better than four wins. I don't know how that debacle went down. That was truly insane. I think they'll be a more passionate team. I think the defense will be really good and they just need to find it on offense. Like if you're near
00:35:36
Speaker
Competing for a playoff position to me that success This year like if you're like, hey, we're seven and seven. We got our we're making a run Did I just cut out? Did you guys hear me? Okay, oh Did I shoot my dad I'll become
00:35:57
Speaker
Yeah, sorry. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to call while I'm doing this. So I'll have to figure out how to cut this out or I'll just run. So he was listening at 36 minutes and he literally ran away. But yeah, man, so it's it's it's. All right, I'm going to wrap this up because he keeps calling me.
00:36:28
Speaker
Yeah. You could, you're just developing, you're developing, uh, and it would still be a, it could still be a better season if you're playing young players, young quarterback, you could win four games. Looking at this, that Josh Uche had an offer of two years, 15 million. Like, uh, he, he had two offers on the table of so much more money and he clearly took less, uh, to come here. So props to Josh Uche really wanted to play for mail and really want to stick it out. So yeah.
00:37:00
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He left a bunch on the table. So so all right guys Yeah, we'll wrap it up. Thanks for listening. Whoever lasted Yeah, a lot's happening. We'll be here weekly We went to so I guess peace out. Yeah
00:37:34
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See ya.