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195: Old Cases of Cold Ones
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Hey you beautiful people, we're back (on our bullsh*t :P ) First we chat about some milestones like graduation, adulting, gardening, and something we now know is called "holiday Creep". Spoilers, it's not a true crime or cryptid though! Just scary capitalism! Also it's the summer of Mr. Pink for one of us....
But Kelsey case dives us right in to some older accounts of vampirism, exhumation, and in particular the confounding case of Arnold Paole, the Monster of Medvegna, maybe. This story out of 1700's Serbia has as many as 17 vampires (fave number of Alanna!) , cattle deaths, a Serbian soldier possibly infected by the bite, and a cameo from Marie Antoinette's mom! What more could you want from history??
Then we have Alanna's Serbian vamp case, the Peasant Vampire of 1725, centered on a man who may have killed as many as 8 people in a week, and ends with an honorable mention or two like the case of "Dracula's Bride". But for real! So please settle into your coffins for some creepiness, incredible stories and a vampire autopsy book, cause why not??
Till next time, Keep it Cryptic!
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Tags: Vampyr, Sarah Ellen Roberts, the Coventry Street Vampire, Peter Blagojevic, 17 Vampires, Arnold Paole, Serbian Vampires
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Introduction to Castles and Cryptids
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Darkcast Network. Indie pods with a dark side.
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You are listening to Castles and Cryptids, where the castles are haunted and the cryptids are cryptic as fuck. I'm Alana. And I'm Kelsey. And Gordo just fell off the desk into my arms.
Pet Antics and Challenges
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It would have been great if he just went, like he always does. Well, no, I could tell he he moved more this way. And then I saw the roll as it was happening. And i was like, I'm going to put my arms under him and just catch him.
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ah Yeah, I was kind of like, oh, what's Gordo gonna do? but he knows. They have that instinct of when you are trying to, okay okay, let's get down to business. And and then they go for it.
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They're like, na na no, no, no.
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He's about to scratch the carpeting on the floor. We can't have that. Oh. Yeah. We've had to install the extra... What you call them? Matz. Rugs. I was trying to say both words at once. Mugs. Yeah.
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yeah I don't know what's going on. He's never scratched the carpeting in this room before, but this last two weeks, there's a specific spot that's probably a foot by a foot, kind of square. It's the only spot in the entire room he's trying to scratch. It's in the middle of the room.
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Don't know what's going on. Don't know what he did there. Don't remember him like getting a hairball or him peeing there. Nothing. So I don't know why he's trying to scratch the exact same spot all the time.
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No, because our dog will do it on the landing of the stairs and then right in front of our bedroom door. And i always just, I don't know, because some places the tread isn't worn down so bad and the carpet's like,
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the piling is higher, right? And I'm like, maybe it's that? I don't know. That wouldn't make much sense for my hallway, though. This is pretty high traffic. And he's, the one day I came in and he had pulled like threads out of the carpet with his nails. There was a bunch of them that were loose and i was like, well, buddy, now you're actually ripping up the carpet and you can't, if you start eating those like you do your freaking hair when you find your hair around the house, that's not going to be good.
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Yeah, why do they want to lick their own... pick out a tuft of hair and the dog will just... Oh. And then he's spitting it out. like Yeah, dumbass. That was a stupid decision.
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No. Gordo's trying to swallow it and I have to like force his mouth open and pull it up. Disgusting creature. doesn't groom himself. i So
Toys and Childhood Memories
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it's not like... I don't know why he wants to eat his hair.
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no and the the instinct is there we that reminds me of when we were at mom's last time and the little orange cat um tiger was like oh some some free yarn let me just start ah eating that like it i don't know if it was like a clipping of yarn or whatever but we had to work fast and grab his little mouth open and pull it out because i was like no you cannot swallow that dude that'll fuck up your intestines like hardcore For sure. are you trying to kill yourself?
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Jesus. Yeah. Stop eating things you shouldn't. Don't develop pika. Like.
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I mean, yeah. And sometimes it's not so much your fault. It's like when we used to make kids toys that they were like, oh, those magnetic balls. Turns out those were a problem because kids kept swallowing them and they get stuck in their test.
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Same problem. Yeah, it's scary. I've heard about that. Or they're like, lawn darts don't exist anymore. And you're like, yeah, that's probably good.
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That would make me laugh.
Parenting and Growing Up
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We never had those, but we did have those big moon shoes that had the giant elastic bands in the shoes so that your feet were like, kind of, I don't know, wobbling on the the bands and they were like hardcore shoes.
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elastic rubber band that sounds crazy i've never even heard about that yeah they were it was like really early 90s i don't know that sounds fun i was like i was like did we use them in a spitball war in one of our houses i hope not i think back on those things now and you're like oh i'm glad we all still have our eyes yeah yeah right
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Maybe a few more kids need to accidentally no die or yeah injure themselves. ah learn Learn consequences for their actions. no Oh, yeah. No, it's, you know, the pendulum swings both ways. And then you get the helicopter parents. and ah Now I'm like, wow, going to make sure you're not too sheltered, kid.
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Yeah, right. you grew up and then you had covid hit you when you're supposed to be like you know blossoming like a butterfly yeah that really just like changed everything i feel so bad i mean some ways thank god for the internet because like you connect with people you know even if you don't have close all that many close friends in your area so yeah Yeah, i there's quite a few people i I don't know if they still work at my work now, but that did that were like, oh, yeah, we we didn't even get to have our graduation or anything like that. Like, I can't imagine not being allowed to do graduation or do like, they call it prom in the US or like your graduation, like dance and ceremony and all that kind of stuff.
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I can't imagine missing out on that. Like, that's such a big thing in your life. And it's yeah it was something that I was really like looking forward to for rain and I thought she would be too but then it turns out she was and maybe covid COVID had something to do with it right I mean there was definitely a portion when she was going to school online and stuff and doesn't help you make a lot of like friends in your school and stuff and so she was just like I really don't even want to like go and i was like okay
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it's tough because then you have to like let them be an adult too oh i don't know but i also was like i missed my grad because i was like off by a couple of credits and then like graduated like half a year later technically or something and i was like you're gonna regret it like here i am being like the when i was your age and feeling like such a mom being like oh back in well and the way that she was like Anyway, it was like, oh, the grad tickets are all gone. And I was like, oh you were just not going to tell us? Or... Oh, my kids.
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Anyway. Kids. Kids will be adults, I guess. Little crazy adults. Yeah. um Yeah, my kid's turning 18. I don't know. That makes me feel some type of way.
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got say I say. still can't believe it because I met her when she was nine. So I'm just like, she, in my head sometimes, she's still nine-year-old. little person.
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Yeah.
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oh Yeah. Yeah.
Personal Anecdotes and Life Lessons
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It's like, say nowadays they're not always ready to fly the coop. Whereas at at her age, I had already been like kind of living a bit on my own, you know, with a boyfriend or two or whatever.
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Like, it was never at home. Yeah. So, it's totally different. but I mean, I, like, I didn't really have that, but I moved out. I probably wouldn't have moved out the same time if I didn't have this house lined up that we were working on, but, like, I moved out at 19 and then...
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all that stuff and probably do changed cities like moved yeah yeah I moved out with a roommate for the first year and then we moved to a different city and like starting totally different job and yeah that learning all those kind of things and being responsible for your car and groceries and cooking and cleaning and yard work and everything I'm still learning about the car no yeah same yeah little bits at a time oh anyway sorry i am yeah don't mean to digress i'm a melancholy monday today just kidding are you garfield do you hate mondays you like lasagna i was just like yeah gonna record
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like and Just not like pumped up or anything. I'm just like, it's fine. We gotta to do it, you know, but that's okay. I got, I'm happy. Cause we, like I was telling you, have much, much Mr. Pink's in the fridge.
00:09:58
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Yeah. Makes me feel like it's summertime. yeah Yeah. Got my honey beer. Um, and I'm golden.
00:10:11
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Oh my God. ah Yeah, no, it's good to have pets and kids and things to look forward to. So hopefully, yes, we do go do some markets in and some things. Yes. Hopefully you guys are having a fun doing whatever you're doing. Yeah.
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I love the summer, summertime, summer activities. Love it. It's good. Yeah, it's because we don't get it for very long. No, soon ah my work is filled with Halloween stuff and pumpkins already. i was like, are you kidding me?
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Get this out of my sight.
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That's the only time you'd be mad to see Halloween too early. It's two days. It's warm. um but can it's two days after kids get out of school we start putting back to school stuff the store back to school get your kids lunch bag um the pickleup show so it's real like oh damn oh no it's time to just like sit outside and read a fucking book for ages yes go touch grass I did. And I plant.
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like know. I touched grass.
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touched grass. I mowed some grass. I touched some weeds on the weekend. so Maybe something's growing.
Gardening and Seasonal Activities
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It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. oh Well, anyway, who out there has a green thumb besides my brother? How do you make your flowers bloom? What should I do?
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Why is it my lilac blooming? I've looked up the things because maybe they're just too young yet. I don't know. oh I don't know if they're the same as like orchids. They love humidity.
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That's the only time I've managed to get my orchids to bloom is like. having a little humidifier on them for like an hour or so every day oh yeah yeah
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tough in not yeah not tough tough to grow indoor plants yeah we have like a lilac bush yeah it's coming maybe weeded some stuff we'll see Maybe we'll prune it. My lilac bush got taken over by stupid like weedy kind of trees that are just growing now. and It's like like you're as tall as my house already this summer. I'm like, I gotta cut this shit down. or yeah like these spindly little stupid trees. don't know where they came from.
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Yeah, I feel like pruning is important. And I was also sitting outside reading and then ah my neighbor was doing something and I was like, oh, yeah, they're using a ah tool or whatever. And then I just hear like a crash. And i was like, oh, he's full on like pruning this shit out of like he just like took a branch off his tree.
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And he has a lot of like nice, nice cherry tree in the back and stuff. But like keeps it well pruned, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hang it over and into our yard. need to get better at it.
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ah Yeah. It's weird. You have to like know what each plant likes. And I don't, I don't always have time for that. Well, these ones I'm trying to kill. So I'm just going to hack them, hack them apart. like Give me a chainsaw.
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That Rupert, it really just keeps coming back. It's like the Terminator. i i threw cement blocks on that thing and it still wouldn't die. The cement sidewalk blocks choked it out for a whole year and it grew in between them.
00:13:48
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I don't know. You tried to first degree murder that. I did. I curb stomped it. And it comes back. I am Groot. Yeah, I would take my heel and i would I would jump up and down on it and I would ah basically pulverize um all the rhubarb and everything to ground level and yeah still comes back yeah I can always my default or my backup plan is always what my dad said pour gasoline on it fine it'll kill it yeah gasoline will kill basically anything any plant just pour gasoline on it damn yeah
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They don't like that, I guess. We've gone full John Wick on this situation, okay? Right? I'm just going to be pouring gasoline in my yard. and My neighbors will love that. What's
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she doing there with a jerry can watering her plants with gasoline?
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I quench my thirst with gasoline. You're just playing Metallica. Give me fuel, give me fire, give me that what your desire. Oh my god. Anyway.
Vampire Tales and Historical Cases
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Right. Hope you guys liked it. This episode going to be seven hours long. No. Unless we go on lot of tangents because my content is quite short. Ooh, lovely. Mine's not too bad.
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um
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We say bad like it's going be like university lecture. Oh, yeah, it is. Buckle up. co There's going to be a... There's going to be a quiz at the end that's worth 99.9% of your grade.
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As long as it's interesting and your voice doesn't turn into the wah wah wah wah, um but um up alone Whatever it does on Charlie Brown.
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Exactly. wow oh Yeah, what are we know this one' talking about? I guess we're talking about some vampires. Vampires.
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Yes. Vampires. Yeah. Yes, that's what I titled it. I did. I like the spelling with the Y. It relates to my case and we're doing some more stories this time. Last time I think we kind of did some general lore.
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and so die yeah these are more specific little more tales yeah uh this is one i ran across i think when we did that vampire episode and i was like oh i'm gonna save some of these and look them up again so cool to get to revisit uh and always nice when you have stuff picked out that you can cover and be like which one do i want to cover i've already done Yeah, some stuff and you're just like, you want to cover it all, basically. Yeah.
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Yeah, this one has quite a bit going on. It's the Arnold's, I want to say like. poll but I don't know if that's right I'm so sorry okay there's a bunch of different spellings when you look at different things there's stuff saying that his name was listed as Arnaud so like Arnold missing the L and then there was one that was like totally different um that I guess I didn't write down here
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Oh, okay. That makes it tougher to find, it nail down a pronunciation sometimes. There's different spellings and stuff. Yeah.
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a very old case. So it's Hey Arnold! No. Hey Arnold. So it I'm pretty sure it it takes place in the Serbian village of Medviga?
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Medviga? medivia uh near belgrade um so that i guess village doesn't exist anymore because there's yeah some stuff they're saying like oh yeah this city or town became this one and this one became this one or this one we have a bunch of references to the name of but we don't know what city or town it actually for sure became Yeah. So it's all over the place. So i was like, oh, thanks.
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um I have heard Belgrade before. Right. ah Yeah. a lot of the little villages seem to get absorbed up into bigger places or change names.
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Yeah. So they had a little bit of background in one of the sources, which I kind of liked. This kind of explains what was going on in Austria at the time.
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this is from vocal.media. And it said Austria, which was seeking economic development. and um I think they mean like economic independence.
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um They recruited militia men known as the Hadjduks. ah to protect the borders and serve in the military during wartimes.
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and exchange for In exchange for border protection and military service, they were promised unalienable lots of land. So they would get like land as compensation for their service.
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And many answered the call and joined or formed communities to claim their new land, including Hajduk named Arnold's Pole. So that's where our character comes in.
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when was this again? Or did you say? um This is, I haven't said yet, but this is I don't know when he was born exactly when the story starts.
00:20:06
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That's fair. But the main things start happening in 1727. Long, long time ago. Okay, damn. Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, it's quite old.
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um Yeah, so he returns home um from that military service and he's supposed to have like a piece of land that he gets and everything. And after he's returned home, he starts telling everyone that he had an encounter with a vampire while he was stationed in, ah think this is Gosawa or Gosawa, which is possibly modern day Kosovo.
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Kosovo. K-O-S-O-V-O. Yeah. Kosovo. Yep. Yep. Kosovo. and Possibly. We don't know for sure.
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Okay. That's where um Pat like did his tour in that um general area in Kosovo. Oh, okay. In the 90s. Yeah.
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Because there was it's that Serbian war that I don't know much about at all. ah but he's like been to like sofia bulgaria and like places like that and i was like okay i recognize when you said kosovo or i've heard it pronounced kosovo or kosovo both so i'm not sure but yeah okay that's interesting and mine mine goes into that region oh okay yeah he's saying he's he's been bitten there um and okay
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Yeah, he got saying he was bitten while serving as a soldier and that This is what, um so there's later accounts that get published in this kind of report. um So I have a lot of little snippets from the report.
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Oh, cool. That was published. So this is what they said about how he described his time, I guess, um saying that he had, quote, eaten from the earth of the vampire's grave and had smeared himself with the blood of the vampire in order to be free of the vexation he had suffered.
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So he was trying to like, rid himself of turning into a vampire by ah eating the grave dirt and smearing himself with the vampire's blood, which comes up quite often. It's a running theme in this story. Well, what gave him that idea?
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It's kind of part of the lore. um um want to say in this story, but this isn't, I guess... this happened so i thought the gravedirt was part the lore like that makes you the vampire i can't remember now because there was a lot about the graves and stuff when we did vampire lore yeah all around the world was like holy shit how many ways can you not become a vampire cat jumps over your grave yeah
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Yeah, I think there was something i said in my segment that was about turning the, like, to using grave dirt and stuff to make bread.
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um or like, make food and eat that. Yeah, so people were consuming it. it was, like, a whole thing. yeah What is wrong with us? Dirt is disgusting. Things we don't explain.
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Eat dirt. I love to eat dirt. I had a disgusting medicine as a child to do with my asthma and I literally called it dirt medicine because that's how gross it was. It didn't come in fake banana flavor. That's my brother and I's favorite flavor of anything.
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Banana. probably it I can't remember. It probably tasted like fake banana over dirt or one of those horrible ah fake fruit flavors, you know? It's just, it can't it can't mask the disgustingness.
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Yeah. lot of them you have steroids when you have asthma.
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So much fun. ah Yeah. Gross. Yeah. So that's really happening. Yeah. sorry yeah around 1927 um so he returns home starts telling people he did this and not long after he returns home sadly he dies after he breaks his neck um he fought he fell off of a hay wagon and broke his neck um but this wouldn't be the end of his story this wouldn't be the end this is just it's the beginning
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I'm already suspicious now how did he fall off that hay wagon what the hay yeah there's no more details about that yeah okay just typical death in the 1700s then probably i guess so all it took was falling off a hay wagon you're break a hip you're done yeah hit your head wrong yeah I suppose ah So that brings us to the attacks that start happening after Mr. Pohl's death.
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Over the next month or so, ah local villagers accuse Pohl of harassing them and also being responsible for at least four deaths.
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But he's dead. Okay. Okay. And they say that they're seeing him. He's harassing them and everything. But he's supposedly dead.
00:25:48
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Gordo. What the shit?
00:25:52
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So as a result of all these accusations. Okay. Gordo, can you just go away? can you just leave? I don't want to do this tonight.
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Okay.
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um As a result of all these accusations, Pol's remains are dug up. Are you scratching on your post? Oh. Pol's remains are dug up.
00:26:22
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This is about 40 days after his death. And his remains are examined for fine for signs vampirism. vampierism Because they'll know it when they see it.
00:26:36
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ah Just like witches. Yeah. Oh boy. Yeah, they do remark on some unusual characteristics of a 40-day-old corpse, I guess.
00:26:49
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They think they're such experts back then. That's all going to say. Yeah, that does play into it as well. Yeah, for sure. They're so scientific. um it's Science? They didn't have that word. No, I don't know.
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Science rules. Bill Nye the science guy. Bill Nye. What a treasure. cute. Him and his little bow ties. yeah So, yeah, the publication I'll be referencing quite a bit, and I have more about it later, ah is called the Repertum.
00:27:28
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It's like Repertum. Um... ga I think that just basically means report um because it has like a longer name, but that's just their shortened name.
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ah They remarked that poll was... weird. That's lot.
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that the shirt the covering and the coffin were completely bloody and that the old nails on his hands and feet along with the skin had fallen off and that new ones had grown oh so little a lot everything's bloody.
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The coffin. Everything's bloody and then like everything that you'd expect to have like kind of appeared old like the hands, the feet, the fingernails.
00:28:26
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They didn't. They looked like they had grown new like and fallen off first and then grown new if I recall what you said correctly. That's... Yeah.
00:28:37
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And then I'm like I'm assuming just the inside of the coffin full of blood because... i mean I think so, yeah. If it's on the outside, now I'm really impressed. No, but that's still quite a lot of blood for a dead body.
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oh Yeah, for sure. stake, after the remains were dug up, a stake, or I guess in the examination was done, a stake was driven through Pol's heart, and they noted that he gave, quote, an audible groan and bled copiously.
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So that was also concerning. yeah. should not be still. Yeah, after 40 days.
00:29:23
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Like, it should not. It should be like, coagulated, and they noted that none of his blood had coagulated in any way. yeah because even if there weren't... it it full embalming techniques at that point yeah i mean they kind of started to get some of them i know in the eighteen hundreds because i read that cool undertaker series with the lady but like full blood that's yeah that ain't right that ain't right uh
00:29:55
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Yeah, so his body was then decapitated. So it was staked, decapitated, and then his remains were burned to ashes. And I think he was reburied or we get into it later. A lot of people get, yeah, the some people's ashes get reburied and then some people get dumped in rivers.
00:30:16
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So um don't really know for sure what happened to him. Damn. Damn. They really went for it. ah like Oh, yeah. There's gonna burn a lot more to come.
00:30:28
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Yeah. you Do you need to cut off his head? You know he's already. Oh, yeah. They stake him. They cut off his head. They do all the vampire. all the vampire. They need Dean and Sam.
00:30:40
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You just need to... They made him eat garlic. No. Burn most of the things. yeah um So this was another thing from Vocal Media...
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saying the villagers reported um deaths. So those four deaths he had been accused of, they reported these to the Austrian military commander in charge of the administration of the area and fearing that a possible epidemic was happening.
00:31:08
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They sent for an ah infectious disease specialist named Imperial Contagions Medicus Glasser, ah who was already stationed at the nearby town of, my God,
00:31:23
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Parasyn, want to say. Glasser visited the town and investigated but failed to find any signs of infectious diseases and blamed malnutrition. Because again, like, this war is happening. So people were quite malnutrition or suffering malnutrition and all that kind of stuff.
00:31:46
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But it still seemed a little unusual. Right. Right. um The villagers didn't agree with this and insisted that malnutrition was um wasn't the cause, but vampires were.
00:31:58
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And some even were threatening to abandon the village and leave for their own safety unless the authorities found and disposed of all the vampires that were plaguing them.
00:32:10
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Bam. The people be like, yeah we going. Yeah. yeah Get rid of the vampires or we really riot. Yeah.
00:32:21
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Yeah. The villagers believed that Pole had, um when he had, like, before he had died, I guess, yeah um that he had fed upon the cattle, the local cattle, and that as a result of consuming the meat of these cattle, because they they're during a war, they don't want to waste the meat, so when the animals...
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um had been fed on or like injured or anything they were still eating the meat so they they then at this point started believing that anybody that had consumed the meat of the cattle were also now infected and in danger of becoming vampires so that really spread through the area as well um So by this point, as far as I could piece together, it seemed like the four people he had been accused of killing, um some of them may have eaten the cattle meat or not.
00:33:17
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But at this point, the four people had died and their bodies were then exhumed, staked, and burned as well. so Just to be thorough. okay and if Yeah, it's now kind of not just him. It keeps going. So...
00:33:36
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um At least after they did that, it seemed to stop for a little while, um about five years before the next plague hits them. Five years?
00:33:48
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Yeah, this one a lot more severe with what's going on.
00:33:55
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Well, that just throws my mad cow disease theory right out the window. Right? This one was so fascinating to me. I was like, oh, I'm so happy I got to cover this.
00:34:05
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It's like crazy. Yeah, I don't get this like dormant period. Yeah, five years, leading us to 1731, leading into like 1732, Mysteria's deaths start Within months this time, 17 people aging...
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ah when mysterious deaths start up again within three months this time seventeen people aging um age 10 to up to 70 the victims they all end up dying they had all have previously been relatively healthy and most had died of a result of some sort of illness after only being sick for between two and three days um okay so quite sudden but i mean it's still 1731 so
00:34:56
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um Yeah, still sounds like a contagious sickness, which they tend to do when they're like this. But, okay. Yeah.
00:35:07
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um Some were, um when they started becoming ill, they were kind of revealing that five years ago, um they had eaten some of the meat um from what they were calling like Poles cattle attacks five years earlier.
00:35:24
Speaker
So like some were tying it back to that. um But it kind of goes beyond that because word of these strange, they were calling them vampire deaths, reached Vienna.
00:35:37
Speaker
And on December 12th, 1731, the Austrian emperor ordered an inquiry into the deaths ah that would be carried out by a regimental field surgeon, oh my god, Johanns ah Fluckiner. Nice.
00:36:02
Speaker
Fluckiner. Fucking jerk. Fucking jerk. It looks like if you said fucking jerk, but it has an L. Fucking jerk.
00:36:12
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on yeah So he's a field surgeon in the military. So he's got to have some level of authority and knowledge about anatomy that was probably pretty substantial at the time um to be a field surgeon with the military. So he's got to be somewhat qualified.
00:36:32
Speaker
Claire might beg Like the human body used to dealing with it. Maybe, yeah. I mean anybody going back in time. Yeah. ah So he later is the one that offer or authored the report um that's Bissum et Repertum, which is translated to seen and discovered.
00:36:57
Speaker
okay. And he, yeah during his... During his visit to the town, he was accompanied by two officers ah in the military and then two other military surgeons.
00:37:11
Speaker
So keep in mind, a lot of the stuff I i have that i'm quoting later on is written by three surgeons and two military officers and they swore by it and signed government documents saying this is what they saw.
00:37:26
Speaker
Which is quite interesting because you can read that report still. It's like a published book. um You can read it. Which I find fascinating. It's like all these autopsies in it of vampires.
00:37:42
Speaker
A whole book? I'd read it. Yeah, it's kind of cool. So... um so a little bit kind of synopsis of what you'll find in it. It stated um that all of the recently deceased locals, which ended up being 40 in all, were exhumed and examined for signs of being a vampire.
00:38:09
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and the highly detailed results were published um in that book. And some of the recently deceased were in far more advanced stages of decomposition than those who had been dead for much longer.
00:38:24
Speaker
So out of the 40 remains, like, some people that had been dead for maybe only a couple weeks were kind of at a more normal stage of decomposition than people that had been dead for a month or two looked fresh.
00:38:40
Speaker
Like, they're it was all over the place. um With when people were dying. It's kind of weird. So... Yeah, they noticed that because they were examining all 40 of these bodies.
00:38:53
Speaker
ah In total 17. It is a lot. um Yeah, in total 17 of the bodies were in ah described to be in a similar condition to Pol's.
00:39:06
Speaker
um Keeping in mind that they didn't actually examine Pol's body because that was five years earlier. They were just going based off what somebody else said, but... um they do note down what they identified in each of the bodies, um with the rest showing more normal signs of decomposition.
00:39:26
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ah It might come up if you search them, but I guess they're called the 17 Medvega Vampires. the seventeen mad view madviga vampires That's what they're kind of called, I guess. That's the town name.
00:39:44
Speaker
There's 17 in the name. That's awesome. Yeah. ah Once they were identified, they were all then decapitated, burned, and their ashes were dumped into the river, which I bet was great for sanitation reasons. Yeah.
00:40:03
Speaker
Love that. Together. Yeah. um The bodies that were described to be in a more like normal states of decomposition were laid back to rest in their original graves.
00:40:16
Speaker
And after this other round of ah inquiries and everything, all the mysterious deaths stopped again and seemed like they stayed stopped.
00:40:28
Speaker
So all we have is kind of like these records of what the doc... These surgeons saw when they were doing the examinations, which is kind of crazy. i have a bunch of them. um They have like... Like the second time, was there not so many stories of the dead guy or whatever?
00:40:49
Speaker
Wasn't there sightings of him the first time or something? Yeah, the first time they said like... he was harassing people and everything.
00:41:00
Speaker
yeah um and that he was responsible for the deaths of four people. This time it, um, out of the 17 people, quite a number of them said that they had eaten some of the meat, like from his supposed kills five years earlier. Right.
00:41:17
Speaker
So some of them do tie back to him. ah
00:41:22
Speaker
Still, I guess. Okay. Yeah. So I do have... or Hold on. Yeah, they stopped. Now I'm here. um So that Fluckinger wrote up his findings in that official government report.
00:41:41
Speaker
What'd you it? And it was all in account. Right? It's got that little... That little U with the two dots on it, too? And I was like, I don't even know.
00:41:53
Speaker
i think that's an umlaut. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I'm so sorry. I'm an uncultured heathen. um
00:42:06
Speaker
That germish. Just kidding. That's what Rain used to call it. Sorry. So they, yeah, they wrote up his findings in this official government report and its a account of all their discoveries. And it was published. It went on to become a bestseller.
00:42:22
Speaker
and by March of 1732, because of it, the accounts of the vampire activity was spreading throughout England and France, like going over all over.
00:42:34
Speaker
and even like, um I guess now, due to the reports, like, in-depth documentation by these field surgeons and stuff, its writing kind of became the center for a lot of future studies and cemented a lot of people's views on vampires and stuff, which was kind of cool.
00:42:54
Speaker
It's like it's an official government document. Right. Right. it's like was it a New York Times bestseller? it was barely a New York but that's what they call them all now yeah it said it became a bestseller but I don't know where that was listed but it must have been quite popular um so I did actually like find excerpts from it um that were full excerpts apparently on lucky which was kind of cool descriptions
00:43:27
Speaker
the descriptions of Kind of the 17. um i think there' is oh there's, there's 13 in here, which is kind of cool. It tells you like the story a little bit of each one.
00:43:41
Speaker
One of them was the Hayduck, or Hajduck,
00:43:50
Speaker
Chowiza, reported that his stepdaughter, so he's another soldier, he reported that his stepdaughter, who was named Stanica, ah She had laid down to sleep 15 days ago, fresh and healthy, but at midnight she had started started up out of her sleep with a terrible cry, fearful and trembling, and complained that she had been throttled by the son of a hayduck by the name of Milo, had died nine weeks earlier, whereupon she had experienced a great pain in the chest and became worse hour by hour,
00:44:29
Speaker
until finally she died on the third day. So I don't think she was part of the 17, but she's one of the, um, one of the soldier's stepdaughters that, um...
00:44:45
Speaker
became quite sick and said that she witnessed one of the people that had died before her, like, come into her room and was attacking her right before she died. Yeah, that's creepy.
00:44:58
Speaker
Yeah. I don't like that. Yeah, right.
00:45:03
Speaker
No, you're not going to like it when it comes up again in mine. oh no. Oh, no. um So the first one...
00:45:14
Speaker
uh this is a woman by the name of stanna she's 20 years old uh who had died in childbirth two months ago again this is all from the book after a three-day illness and who had herself said before her death that she had painted herself with the blood of a vampire uh wherefore both she and her child yeah yeah um because they thought it would protect she's in childbirth and painting herself with the blood before she dies that's a lot going on there that's a weird one
00:45:58
Speaker
yeah because I mean childbirth alone is enough to take you out but like what yeah ah Sounds like satanic panic. No, sorry.
00:46:12
Speaker
Painted herself with the blood of a vampire, wherefore both she and her child, which had died right after birth, and because of a careless burial, had been half-eaten by the dogs, must also become vampires.
Vampire Lore in Culture and Media
00:46:27
Speaker
she was quite complete and undecayed and after the opening of the body there was found in the cavity pectoris a quantity of fresh extravascular blood the vasa of the artery and venae um like the ventriculus cordis there's so oh my god i don't want to say all the medical terms were not, as is usual, filled with coagulated but blood, and the whole viscera that is, um like the stomach and intestines and everything, were quite fresh, as they would be in a healthy person.
00:47:06
Speaker
ah They noted that the uterus was, however, quite enlarged and very inflamed externally, um for the placenta and such had remained in place, and wherefore the same was incomplete.
00:47:23
Speaker
That means the skin on her hands and feet, along with the old nails, had fallen away on their own, but on the other hand, completely new nails were evident, along with a fresh and vivid skin.
00:47:35
Speaker
So, like, they were saying, like, one hand, everything fell off, and the other one looked completely undecayed and, like, fresh, which I think is creepy.
00:47:46
Speaker
And that she hadn't passed her placenta, and that her womb was swollen, which would probably be a symptom because you have to pass the placenta you can't just leave it in there which leads to me to believe this is yeah more to do with the childbirth than anything but that's my skeptical logical mind yeah yeah um but she wasn't decomposing properly Only a couple of these are long. Most of these other ones are like much shorter.
00:48:19
Speaker
They're written by Dr. House? yeah Yeah. I give them a slap on the wrist and a prescription for a placebo and send them home.
00:48:31
Speaker
Yeah, that's what they all mean. ah The second one says there was a woman by the name of Melissa... Melisa, who was 60 years old, ah who had died after a three-month sickness, and she had been buried 90 some days earlier, so like three months before. Right.
00:48:56
Speaker
They found in her chest much... like much liquid blood was found you so it wasn't coagulated or anything um and the other viscera yeah I was like I love this old timey 1700s speak my favorite my favorite to read out loud ah well yeah yeah that part was less than medical unlike the the previous which sounded a little bit more like textbook whatever yeah
00:49:27
Speaker
Um, yeah, like those mentioned before, her viscera were in good condition during her dissection. All the Hajduks or soldiers who were standing around marveled greatly her.
00:49:41
Speaker
This sounds so bad. At her plumpness and perfect body, um uniformly stating that they had known ah the woman well, and from even a very young age, from her youth, she had throughout her life looked and been very lean and dried up.
00:49:59
Speaker
Like, because she's 60 years old. They said her entire life she had been very thin and everything, and now that she had died, she was quite plump. that just sounds like bloating but i mean i don't know how long that lasts because this is three months later yeah no i get what they're trying to say i just don't love the verbiage which is like lean and dried up you're like before she dies oh okay thanks It's called menopause, bitch!
00:50:32
Speaker
There's some dryness that happens! No. Just like, ouch. Yeah. Oh my god. um Yeah, I don't know how long like bloating and that kind of stuff would happen after you die. This is like right three months later, so I don't know what time that would pass.
00:50:52
Speaker
think it would depend on the environment entirely, although that does seem like a long time regardless, so I don't know. Yeah. um But they all emphasized that she had come to this surprising plumpness in the grave.
00:51:08
Speaker
What a statement to have to read out loud. i They don't know the word bloat, I guess. Yeah. They also said that it was she who started the vampires this time because she had eaten of the flesh of those sheep that had been killed by the previous vampires.
00:51:28
Speaker
So I think that's part of Pol's ones he had supposedly attacked. She's queen of the damned. Yeah, I guess she started it this time.
00:51:39
Speaker
there was So the next one, because some of these are only little things, there was an eight-day-old child, like just a newborn, ah who had been laying in a grave for...
00:51:53
Speaker
90 days again, about three months, who was similarly in a condition of a vampire.
00:52:02
Speaker
Yeah. There was another... It died as an infant. That sucks. Yeah, eight days old. Yeah. That's...
00:52:15
Speaker
Yeah, the next one is the son of another soldier. he was 16 years old. He was dug up ah and he had been the earth for nine weeks.
00:52:27
Speaker
He had died from a three-day illness and was found like the other vampires. Some of these don't have much information. ah He was found looking like Tom Cruise.
00:52:39
Speaker
with a terrible a terrible wig who i was gonna say don't get me don't get pat started because he'll argue he does not look like listat
00:52:52
Speaker
we're reading the uh mayfair witches and let me tell you it's a thousand page book and i don't know how long it's gonna take me to read that out loud to him 17 years every other day every three days or whatever in the bath until he falls asleep but Yeah, it's taking us a while.
00:53:11
Speaker
That's a lot. Yeah, it's good. Like the show is good. Like there's a show version now with that. ah like Alexandria Daddario. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, I heard it was pretty good.
00:53:24
Speaker
That's keeping me going. I like, yeah, we can read the book and then watch the show.
00:53:29
Speaker
Just like me, I finally found downloads for the at least the first six episodes of the Black Dagger Brotherhood series. So happy. Well, yeah, so I have five episodes out of six.
00:53:40
Speaker
And they did really good. i have to say. the um A lot of the dialogue and everything, the scenes are pulled straight from the book, like 100%. don't know how they could have made it more book accurate. From the first book?
00:53:56
Speaker
Yeah, keeping all of the cringey dialogue the that makes you laugh sometimes. You're just like, oh. you Even the author was like, oh yeah, she's like, I never wrote these books intending these things to be said out loud and watching them say them out loud sometimes does make you laugh.
00:54:15
Speaker
yeah some of this is pretty pretty she's like i'm surprisingly funny yeah and it translates to scream oh it's like nice though when the first like season correlates so nicely with like a first book or whatever you're like yes oh i've never i've never watched anything where you're just like oh yeah i could like flip to the page and i could follow along like this is the script like it's really verbatim And you're just like, oh and they added little things in. And yeah, it's been pretty good.
00:54:47
Speaker
I mean, I think, yeah, yeah especially if you can get like at least some scenes that are like exactly the same as in the book. That makes book readers really happy. Oh, I'd say 80% of it is like taken directly from the book.
00:55:00
Speaker
I think they did a pretty good feel like they it well like the first seasons of some things like Game of Thrones, Outlander, etc. Where like the first couple seasons, you're like, no, they did pretty good sticking to it. So yeah, that's interesting. Good to hear.
00:55:14
Speaker
Yeah, I know you want to yeah all the biggest moments you'd be like, Oh, yeah. Like, oh Oh, yeah, that person said that. Oh, yeah, that one always makes me laugh.
00:55:25
Speaker
It was like a checklist. Are they gonna do this line? Are they gonna do this line? Yeah, they did them all. It's like, yeah. Nice. Yeah, enjoying it.
00:55:35
Speaker
I keep waiting to see if I can get the last episode because it's only six episodes this season. so I got five of them so far and they were pretty good. Maybe they'll put it on like Prime or something. Yeah, and then I can check it out.
00:55:50
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I mean, it's already piloted for Greenlight for a second season and they're I think working on casting for they got to cast like another probably at least 10 main characters for the second book there's a lot of people that injured too suddenly um that can be nice but also ah lot i'm not saying it is in their book i'm just reading a book right now that has a big cast of characters and is little complicated yeah um okay where was i okay i did number five number six was a woman by the name of russia russia uh she had died after a 10-day illness and had been buried for six weeks um
00:56:40
Speaker
i they found fresh blood not only in the chest, but also, I don't know where this is, also in fundo ventriculi.
00:56:53
Speaker
Ventriculi. Normally the ventricles is like your heart. Heart related, I would say. yeah Fundo ventriculi. I don't know what fundo is.
00:57:05
Speaker
F-U-N-D-O. Fundo. Ones that go into the lungs, maybe? No, I don't know. Not sure. have not heard that. Oh, this says the same showed itself in her child who was 18 days old and had died five weeks previously.
00:57:24
Speaker
another child Also, they still didn't know a lot then. Keep in mind, the germ theory was not even quite there yet. yeah I mean, i think they knew some stuff about anatomy.
00:57:35
Speaker
I'm not saying they didn't, but okay. Interesting. ah The seventh one said, no less did a girl 10 years of age who had died two months previously find herself in the above-mentioned condition, quite complete and undecayed, and had much fresh blood in her chest.
00:57:54
Speaker
this sounds some like some sort of, yeah, like lung something related illness that these people are like having uncoagulated blood and stuff in their bodies.
00:58:09
Speaker
i mean Yeah. especially it's something to do with your heart not pumping correctly something like that, that would make yeah sense? Yeah, I don't know.
00:58:22
Speaker
But it does seem like eat one they all had illnesses, right? Some sort. Yeah. Like this group, everybody died of an illness. It seems like.
00:58:34
Speaker
It's interesting looking back on it with like a more a more modern medical lens. That's all. Yeah. That's why like, this is so interesting because this is like autopsies and like official government record. and they're like, there's vampires.
00:58:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, we didn't know shit about shit back then. Still, really. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting for sure. and um The eighth one had caused the wife of another soldier to be dug up along with her child.
00:59:03
Speaker
She had died seven weeks previously and her child, who was eight weeks old, um had died 21 days previously. And it was found that both mother and child were completely decomposed, although earth and grave were like those of vampires lying nearby.
00:59:24
Speaker
have no idea what that means. That's all that one says. Oh, because I was wondering, are they all in the same sort of grave conditions? So when they're saying in the same sort of grave as some of the other quote unquote vampires, maybe they mean buried in the same sort of like earth and...
00:59:42
Speaker
Yeah. exactly I don't know. I think this was a pretty small place. I think I saw something that said the population would have been between like 1,500 and less than 3,000 people.
00:59:54
Speaker
So I don't know if they'd even have one more than one or two cemeteries even. That's true. So, yeah. It did seem like they were trying to make a point about the, some sort of different, like there was no difference in the grave or whatever you just said yeah i don't know yeah that's the only one that talks about that think yeah um yeah
01:00:26
Speaker
So the ninth one was a servant of a local corporal of the soldiers by the name of Raid, 23 years old, and died after three-month-long illness and after um after a five-week burial was found completely decomposed.
01:00:48
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Yeah, I think they're like pointing out that like a person that was buried five weeks ago was completely decomposed, but somebody that's buried three months isn't.
01:00:59
Speaker
Like it's just yeah back and forth. Like there isn't really a consistency to... The rate of decomposition. Yeah, there's... Yeah, in like a similar area and that kind of stuff.
01:01:13
Speaker
um and the wife ah thing now like we can more efficiently approximate like time of death where we're like oh yeah look at this corpse because it's this much um like we have better words like rigor mortis and whatnot where we're like the blood is blueity yeah it's like probably a couple to four hours ago or whatever Yeah, I love that my crime books. Like, the Will Trent series.
01:01:39
Speaker
It's like, he's a cop, she's a medical examiner. Ooh, they're so good together. Think of both sides of it. It's really interesting. yeah Anyway, so that's, yeah, it's like, they were trying. They were figuring some stuff out, but they just didn't know everything. Yeah.
01:01:58
Speaker
Yeah. ah The tenth one they have is the wife of a local bariactor. don't know what that is um that was like one more child yeah bar reactor doesn't sound along with her child having died five weeks previously were also completely decomposed um 11th one says with stanch A local soldier, 60 years old, who had died six weeks previously. I noticed a profuse liquid blood like the others in the chest and stomach, and the and entire body was in the oft-named condition of vampirism.
01:02:46
Speaker
Oft-named. Vampir? Vimbir. He's a vimbir. ah This is that Mello guy. uh who apparently scared the other girl to death scared that girl to death he's 25 years old had lain in the or had lain for six weeks in the earth was found in a condition in the condition of vampirism mentioned great the lack of details uh now they really sound like doctors or politicians yeah
01:03:24
Speaker
a Um...
01:03:30
Speaker
Is this the same one? Died after a 3D?
01:03:37
Speaker
Oh, I think this might have been the... Yeah, this is the one I mentioned, the first one. Sorry, I didn't know this one was repeated. Otherwise, I wouldn't have taken it from the other source. Um... But they spelled her name differently.
01:03:53
Speaker
This one says it's the wife of a soldier, 20 years old, died after a three-day illness and had been buried 18 days previously. and they found her in
01:04:07
Speaker
her countenance, quite red and vivid of color. And as with mentioned above, she had been throttled at midnight by that one Millo, son of a soldier. That's the second throttled.
01:04:24
Speaker
I think this might be the same one. They just spelled the name differently. Which, what was the name? You didn't say the name again, I don't think.
01:04:34
Speaker
This is Stanoika. And the other one... Oh, sorry, you did say it. Yes, that's right. I thought it sounded like Stannika, which I was like, okay, sounds like Danika. Gotcha. Yeah, I've heard of this name, sort of.
01:04:53
Speaker
Yeah, this one has a bit more details, though. um Yeah, after being throttled... been seen on the right side under the ear a bloodshot bloom mark the length of a finger as she was being taken out of the grave a quantity of fresh blood flowed from her nose with the dissection I found as mentioned often already a regular fragrant flight fresh bleeding not only in the chest cavity but also in the ventriculocortis
01:05:26
Speaker
all the i hate the word viscera stop using it all the viscera found themselves in a completely good and healthy condition it is gross
01:05:37
Speaker
it gives you a visceral response it does viscera gives me a visceral response i know it is kind of off-putting like moist or some of those other words you're you just like oh damp damp really sorry i think i've heard that one before that bugs people that's funny panties um oh yeah i hate the word panties just the underwear great ah yeah it's sort of infantilizing anyway yeah sorry off top uh the hypotermic
01:06:20
Speaker
The hypodermis of the entire body along with the fresh nails on the hands and feet as though completely fresh. Gross. Yeah. um So this was, I think, part of their signing off that they included in that report thing, the repertum.
01:06:42
Speaker
After the examination had taken place, the heads of the vampires were cut off by the local gypsies, their words, and burned along with the bodies. And then the ashes were thrown into the river,
01:06:55
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Morava. ah they de my god The decomposed bodies, however, were laid back into their own graves, which I attest along with those in assistant medical officers provided for me.
01:07:10
Speaker
ah The undersigned attest herewith that all of the regimental medical officer of the Honorable... first in Bach regiment had observed in the matter of vampires along with both medical officers who had signed with him oh boy uh is in every way truthful and has been undertaken observed and examined her own presence that was the longest sentence ever heretofore yeah uh and then they signed it
01:07:43
Speaker
ah belgrade january 26 1732 it had like all their names like their their names their rankings and um all that kind of stuff um
01:07:58
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uh what i wanted to cover after that was kind of a little bit more I found on vocal media again which was kind of cool they provided such good like so yeah I've never heard of it before um you've never been so vocal right I liked their little bit about background because I didn't see that before and then they had kind of some stuff that happened after which I thought was interesting
01:08:31
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um It said that the Catholic Church learned of the events and ended up getting involved due to the mutilation of bodies um during those examinations.
01:08:43
Speaker
They didn't like this, that people were being like exhumed and... ah like given autopsies basically you're examined and all this stuff was i mean they were getting headed and burned and thrown in reverse they just don't like when anybody learns anything or has any fun
01:09:03
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ah so according to their beliefs the bodies of christians awaiting resurrection were desecrated rendering them incapable of going to heaven And at the request of a cardinal, the Bishop of Almuts, a specialist from the Catholic Church, got involved.
01:09:22
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And this Giuseppe Davanzati, an Archbishop of the Roman Catholic Church and vampirologist,
01:09:35
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i Davanzotti spent years analyzing the problems of vampires and concluded that it was the result of human fantasy, likely of demonic origin.
01:09:48
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He urged the Catholic Church to leave the bodies undisturbed and to dinner to direct their attention to the people reporting vampirism and give them spiritual guidance.
01:10:02
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Yeah.
01:10:04
Speaker
okay uh then we have it says meanwhile anton augustin clement or calmet maybe a french clemente yeah i don't know it depends how italian um He's a French Benedictine monk known for his, oh my god, a whole bunch of French words.
01:10:31
Speaker
No, you're probably right with Clamont then. Because then you if it's French, you probably wouldn't pronounce the E as Clamont at the end like Italians do. yeah Yeah, a whole bunch of things. But he had written a dissertation on the apparitions of spirits and on the vampires or revenants of Hungary, Moravia, and Selyza.
01:10:54
Speaker
Sleazia. No. This guy, he came to a very different conclusion than that first Catholic church guy. ah He called up upon scholars, theologians, and doctors to give the subject of vampires serious study and consideration.
01:11:13
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And he argued that the bodies were animated byt by demonic forces. Sorry, i started laughing. I didn't mean to start laughing. No. No, that makes sense, but okay. yeah then the controversy kept going back and forth before it gets escalated to the Empress Maria Theresa of Austria, Marie Antoinette's mother. ever heard of her? yeah That's why I was like, oh, I have to include this.
01:11:46
Speaker
Marie Antoinette. Historic connection. Yeah. Yeah, so Marie Antoinette's mother then has to weigh in. She sent her personal physician, a Gerard van Sweeten, ah to investigate the various claims of vampires.
01:12:03
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ah That guy concluded that vampires do not exist. And then the empress, Marie Antoinette's mother, passed laws that prohibited opening graves or desecrating bodies.
01:12:16
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The end. Oh, well. that's that's like you gotta do what you gotta do to get shit to stop yeah so like i was just like completely in favor of that um that's cool ah yeah i thought this one was crazy everybody like you talk about cases of like vampires but very rarely is it in like government official documents in like siberia yeah yeah anything it's like cryptid paranormal entity related rarely is yeah yeah so it's like oh these are actually like three field surgeons that signed off on these investigations and we're like yes this is our reports i know it's the equivalent of the navy the navy guys reporting on the you know tic-tac ufos and stuff you're like but they're so credible how could you ignore it yeah
01:13:08
Speaker
Yeah, for like the knowledge and everything they had back in the 1700s, like this is what they saw and i accounted for. And yeah, it was kind of her it's weird different. I was like, oh, I'm so happy I stumbled on this one. Like back when we were doing the vampire ones before, i was just like, oh, this one sounds crazy.
01:13:32
Speaker
was not expecting the... historical M. Night Shyamalan twist of and then Marie Antoinette's mother was like no enough or whatever yeah I was just like that's hilarious that does not come up in the like Philippe Gregory books yeah Yeah, that vocal media website. They're the only ones that threw in Marie Antoinette's mother.
01:13:57
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If people just would, it would make it so much more interesting. I've got to tell you. Because, like, you can make a historical fiction book or whatever where it's like like, like I just mentioned the Philippa Gregory. She wrote, like, the ones that got, some of them got made into the movies. Like, the other Bolin girl was hers. Oh, okay, yeah. And, like...
01:14:18
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um the the white queen and then the white princess got made into um tv series and the i'm trying to get to the white princess because it stars jodie comer and i'm like okay look i can get kind of behind it i'm like it kind of sucks because like you know it does for most women those days where they don't get to like marry the man they love and all this stuff but it's more told from like yeah, the queen's point of view, princesses. And like, she tends to do that more where like, yeah, you'll hear more. I read the one where it was like the, yeah, the other Bolin girl was about her, like Anne and her sister and how they were both used by their like royal family and father to try and like, yeah, entrap the king and blah, blah, blah. And like, it's just very interesting to see the other side of it rather than us just knowing like, oh yeah, Henry VIII like killed all his wives or whatever, you know, it's just like, yeah.
01:15:17
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It's so much. I just never, never would have expected in my life that like yeah Marie Antoinette's mom would have to weigh in on whether or not vampires were real or not.
01:15:28
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Like. Exactly. I guess that's like our equivalent of being like asking Obama and Trump being like, hey, are aliens real? Like, then be like, I'm going to send investigators.
01:15:41
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Like, I guess they have to do it as like rulers of a country, but it just seemed so out of place. I didn't expect it. i was like, oh, I'm going to send her personal physician to find out if vampires are real. Cool, cool, cool.
01:15:56
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Right. Is it more normal those days? Because they believed like astrology was almost as scientific as astronomy or was it less crazy
01:16:08
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sorry when you just said that it just like broke my mind a little bit because we we had a there was a canadian defense um department of defense like top guy of ours that literally came out and said that aliens we're real and now I can't remember who he is but I'm like we had that dude that was like you yeah you know like like high up in the Canadian you know DOD or whatever but like as soon as you say any of this shit's real people just write you off and they don't listen to you and that's why I can't remember his name it's like this at work I can remember stupid Andrew Basiago because I covered him and project whatever and going to Mars with Obama and
01:16:53
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Project Pegasus or whatever I can't remember this I can never remember anything about anything I cover it's like three days removed from doing it like they're gone I have a vague remembrance it see to me if I've heard it on another podcast before sometimes right cause it'll like you know the more times you hear it the more oh yeah the repetition yeah for sure but like every podcast no you're we're the same as everyone else where people like ha ha ha you covered that and we're like what can't remember from week to week what we covered like it's totally a symptom of podcasting yeah all right we have a um good take a break yeah and come back for more
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01:19:58
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We have all the best stories. um Yeah, all the listicles. Or all the listicles. I looked up like, I think, every vampire stories old or yeah history or something. you Well, you had picked one out and you had just yeah yet to double check and tell me what the name was. And so I just said,
01:20:22
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I'll go back a bit. And then it's so funny because yours was in the 1700s, which a lot of them are like old cases. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy to find them from history or, or from like, there are some modern ones too, which I know. Those are a lot more like true crimey than. Yep.
01:20:43
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Yeah. I think you've covered one of them already at least where it's like, is it a vampire if someone's like voluntarily asking to be camelized? Like, i just don't even need to get into that. That's much.
01:20:58
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like wanting to be a vampire and stuff. Like, I don't think any of the people I covered on it wanted to be a vampire. They might have thought they were becoming a vampire, but they didn't want to be a vampire. They weren't like, ooh, I'm a vampire.
01:21:16
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Yeah, it's a very sticky distinction where I'm like, same with doing two recent true crime. The further back I go, the better I feel.
01:21:27
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Yeah, sometimes it's a little bit safer. Yeah, because we were just like, you ever watch a stuff that's more recent? Like we were doing the ah Netflix documentary on some college kids that got murdered. The Idaho college ones. There's one on Netflix or whatever.
01:21:47
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and it's recent ish within like the last five or so years so that when it came out then like youtubers and different people like us true crime podcasters whatever people started covering it and like but when it was ongoing an investigation and like speculating and rumors and like just oh you know hope that we don't get into that kind of realm of things where you're like speculating on a really fresh ongoing case and like it's different those ones are really tricky because there's also not normally ah that much information about it you want to disparage people that are when no one's been convicted you don't know like they're acquaintances of someone or they're
01:22:39
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Like, witnesses have no idea.
True Crime and Modern Vampire Parallels
01:22:42
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it's tough. Yeah, because, like, I covered that one. It was the bring spring break crimes a long time ago, like a couple years ago we did. Oh, yeah.
01:22:51
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and think her name was Brittany something. um She's the one that disappeared while on spring break. And then that I think a month or... Yeah, a month or two after I covered it, her case ended up getting solved. But the friends got blamed?
01:23:08
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that true? Yeah, the friends and then her um her was a ex-boyfriend or a club promoter or something she knew. That's who the mom was sure it was.
01:23:19
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And she went on like Dr. Phil and was like ripping him apart, being like, what did you do to my daughter? And this kind of stuff. And then it came out that it was a totally... Yeah. Yeah. And then it came out that it was a totally random guy that I can't remember if he was like a serial killer or not, but it was like kind of a crime of opportunity. He just saw her walking down the road.
01:23:39
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um because she was i think on the way back to the hotel or leaving the hotel to go meet up with them and he just pulled up and got her to get in the car yeah yeah got her to get in the car with him and so it was like yeah and that got solved like a month or two only after i covered it so i think we talked about it a few episodes later and i believe that's one of the cases where it's you know not yeah naming names done that I know if I know them but like if you just go a person who knows nothing like us we're just podcasters not like fucking journalists and you just go like excuse me accusing a person and like blowing up their social media or you know people yeah I would never do that kind of stuff yeah or just like accusing them enough that maybe your fan base would go and do that
01:24:31
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yeah i hope nobody that listens to us would start harassing anybody involved in any case based on anything we said like come on girls you guys know ah we know what you know what the public knows and what we can do with you know our limited amount of research skills which i'm just saying because we're not like professional yeah but we're not like investigative reporters okay No, but like, it it really truly ah gives you respect for those kind of people and and for the fact that almost anything you read nowadays, you have to be able to like, Google, or at least look up and try and verify it so that you can be like, this is total bullshit.
01:25:17
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Yeah, who has the time to do To fact check every headline they could scroll past. At least they should think before they like just repost. Of course you guys would never.
01:25:32
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We'll get off our soapbox. I hate when podcasters do that. When i'm like, yeah, obviously. Fuck. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Okay, um so this one is the Peter the Peasant Vampire.
01:25:47
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that you them on oh it's the peasant peasant vampire of 1725 oh wow right around mine mine was 1727 and like again like this crazy i won't
01:26:03
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and i like again was like this is crazy i won't I don't know how to pronounce this and then didn't even try because I'm a basic stupid white bitch. It was like Blagojevic or something like that.
01:26:19
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That's his last name. Sure. Cool. Yeah, you know, like Yankovic, but Blagojevic or Jevic. One of those. That's what it looks like.
01:26:30
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um Oh, damn. I forgot to say to Pat when we went downstairs that you were talking about in Serbian Kosovo.
01:26:41
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and we knock it off cat came back the very next play mine is also a serbian man and he was born in the late 1600s we have an exact date sometime around 1662 which is like pretty exact i had no idea for mine there was like literally he is like he came back from war 1727 no other details No other information.
01:27:12
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Nothing. This was in maybe one or two sources. yeah um He did eventually have a wife and one son and they were living in the village of um again with the modern slash old names it was either like Kisilova Kisil Yeho?
01:27:35
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No, looks like Sarajevo and I'm like, wait. how do you say the that's the thing ah you pronounce the j like a day and okay but yeah either way it was like you know this you've got the modern equivalent name um of the city or whatever um and he ends up dying in 1725 and he was in his early 60s so we do know that ah okay okay um and so yeah very sad i think he was a family man his family was mourning him and ah all that like they loved him but with this small town within a very short period the whole town seemed to be mourning some other loved ones because of all these sudden illnesses
01:28:23
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ah damn so familiar now i'm having deja totally i just because like it's honestly and like yeah even when you just look at some of the ah same ones in the same type of lists i was like oh some of these are literally like the same story basically yeah which is cool though That's what I ran into when I ended up looking up the couple that i Because I told you I had saved three. This was one of them, and then I...
01:28:59
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I thought you meant like a couple. like that you know Oh, no. i did I had saved three three cases and then i looked up all three of them again trying to figure out which one I wanted to cover and I was like, oh, the other two, there's actually barely any information even on a Wikipedia page. So I was like, oh, yeah okay.
01:29:21
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that's Yeah, exactly. Usually the case and then you're like, all right, let's take the one I can expand on. Yeah, exactly. But I seriously kept thinking, oh shit, no, she didn't do the same case as me.
01:29:35
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No, it's just another Serbian guy. What are the chances out of the entire world that we pick 1725 and in
01:29:49
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I will say that from my listicle, when I first just jotted down the main names of the like six people, and then you confirmed which one you were doing, he was my first listicle. Yeah, I was like, oh, okay.
01:30:02
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yeah i was like I could have maybe looked more into that. But thankfully, we've been pretty good about not yeah doing that. Yeah. Yeah.
01:30:13
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I mean, it's kind of nice, too. i don't i don't mind it when both hosts have a take on something where you're like, ah, you know? Yeah. like
01:30:23
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brainstorming uh no yeah but this is very similar um because in just over a week nine more people other than peter in this case were dead in the village i know it's not as impressive as your number now no but nine in a week is a lot yes in one yeah exactly sorry hair in my boobs yes um and they all had something to say about peter They each fell ill about a day or so before their death from an unknown illness.
01:30:57
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Sorry.
01:31:00
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They just didn't know a lot about disease in these days. It's not great. but Yeah. They died from not washing their hands. That too. They couldn't figure There was a little story, whether a more modern one, but We can't figure out why the the babies and the mothers from this this student hospital are faring better than the one from the doctor hospital. like Just above it. Like on the same campus. On the same like venue. And it turned out that like the midwives, nurse ladies downstairs, that group, were just washing their hands beforehand.
01:31:35
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That was the difference. And that's why people didn't want to go to the upstairs hospital because they didn't have as much of a chance as surviving. We didn't know. just didn't understand.
01:31:47
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That's crazy. ah I hate that. It is crazy how like just our own ignorance just led to that stuff. And we just have to realize we're still fucking ignorantg ignorant, you know?
01:31:59
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Sorry. Right?
01:32:01
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i know. um Yeah. So this is also crazy. ah all had a strange story on their deathbed. They said Peter had appeared to them at night and throttled them in their sleep.
01:32:16
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Oh no, not throttled again. Yes! but What even is throttled? You're just like choking them? and I know, it gives me such a like shaking strangling and shaking vibe. What is that? That's so terrible.
01:32:30
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That's gotta to be what but throttling somebody is, isn't it? Yeah, choking them and like shaking them. yes but
01:32:46
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edward wouldn't let it come up this many times in that many stories they would be like you've overused it it's like when yeah you said you said something at thrust and i was just like oh my god thrust and then like we couldn't contain ourselves for a while it's such a good verb
01:33:03
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Is he really falling off again, this dumbass? Almost. I ah caught him with my boob. I turned my chair and caught his little head with my boob.
01:33:14
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It's his pillow now. That's all he wanted. Yeah.
01:33:21
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Yes. So in this case, Peter would appear that to them at night and ah reportedly throttled them and in their sleep. Throttled them in their sleep.
01:33:32
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You can't talk now. It's your turn. Yeah, like in a dream, which I'm like, makes me feel better that my my bad dreams feel so tame where I'm like, I'm usually late for work. And then I'm like, stupid fun fact. I usually can't like move my legs because they're in tight jeans. And I'm like, that's just your brain telling you you're almost lucid dreaming and you can't move out the covers.
01:33:55
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You dumbass.
Dreams, Sleep Paralysis, and Vampires
01:33:57
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You just got my... Did you ever listen to that? i think it was Jimmy Fallon. I got my tight pants.
01:34:06
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I got my tight pants on. Everybody's wearing tight pants. I got my tight pants. He did a whole dance. J-Lo did one of them with him. And then Michelle Obama did one of them with him.
01:34:18
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Got my tight pants. My tight pants on. And then he had one with, I think, Will Ferrell. They're wearing tight white jeans. And then like striped shirts and like terrible wigs.
01:34:31
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In the dream. Damn. What a dream. What a nightmare, really. Tight. My pants are too tight. They're so pedantic. It's usually they're like, you're late for work. It's like when you like dream about toilets and you wake and you're like, I have to pee.
01:34:45
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it's that It's just that stupid.
01:34:49
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oh Anyway, write to us. I heard another podcaster saying he had dreams about being late and i was like, thank you. How lame are we?
01:35:01
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ah Okay. What did I say? Throttled them in their sleep? Is that what I'm going to do? Yeah. Oh my god. He told them they would die next.
01:35:13
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It was all, seven days. Yeah, ominous. And like, yeah, basically within one day they're like, okay, we did.
01:35:25
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Gordo? Gordo? You did, bro. I caught you mid-air, buddy. How much does this fucking fat cat weigh? That was so
01:35:39
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heavy. I think is and think his feet got tangled up in the cords. that's all seemed It seemed worse than it was.
01:35:50
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God, they're so awkward. Baby, how?
01:35:56
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You can't do something like seven times and think this something different's gonna happen. you've fallen off the desk seven times, how's the eighth time gonna go?
01:36:08
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oh yeah. I was like, my dog does that. i'm like, you're a dumbass and also you're too fucking big. Like, I can't support you when you go over the edge.
01:36:21
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Ugh. Right. He appeared to his wife also in her sleep and he warned her what to look for in a corpse, so to speak, to check for the vampirism that their hair and beard would grow all of that.
01:36:38
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And then this was my favorite part. He asked her for his favorite shoes, um, but his opency that the word for shoes, I guess. give me my shoes oh i mean i've heard the thing about they talk about the hair and the nails growing because your skin shrinks or whatever so like you're yeah uh yeah he asked for his old pantsy and stranger still he visited his son who then refused to give him food so allegedly he bit him and drank his blood until he died
01:37:15
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Oh. I know. That's the part of that one that I find the crazy violentest. Because they they were like, yeah, he came to visit his son and like, literally not in his dreams he died.
01:37:28
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i don't know. Yeah. Could they like see the bite mark or whatever? That's what I don't know. um
01:37:42
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Yeah, like, see, there's the kind of excerpts I was able to get from my little report. Peter, this is not the same last name, Plagojevis came to them in his sleep and lay down on them and choked that they would now have to give up the ghost.
01:38:01
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Which is just a little bit flippant, don't you think? Sounds like a sleep paralysis demon lying on your chest. um and they but like i don't think these i don't know if these were from the oldest report but from the serbian paper glaz jav nasty peter's widow to whom he also came in a dream asking him to send him his slippers to the other world and send them on over to
01:38:33
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said that vampires are known for the fact that their bodies remain unchanged in the country and their hair beard and nails grow and that they get a new skin without anyone knowing where she got such knowledge from after that she fled from kisil yebo kisil jebo whatever it is oh sorry kisil yebo sounded better
01:39:00
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sorry um so at this point people are freaking out and they like want to help and they are all scared all the village villagers they want the authorities to step in and if possible dig up the body you know as they like to do in these cases and make sure he's not displaying signs so they ah have some officials come in there's a local priest and uh the assenation the the cameral provisor from bald his last his name is from bald it's all very from bald yep like bald and the from yep it made me think of the um handmaid's tale and their weird names like where i thought it was off red at first and then turned out it was of fred or whatever and i was like ew oh
01:39:55
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But I think that's just his last name. I think I have his first name later. Oh, er, er, sorry, one other source said, A letter is one of our only written accounts of this story.
01:40:08
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Written by Imperial Provisor Ernst Frambald, unofficial with the Austrian government. What's the worst name ever? Ernst Frambald.
01:40:21
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The Frambald. Ernst Frambald. Ernst Rundwald. ah Pardon me. Hey. and We can't all get great last names.
01:40:36
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But a terrible first name, too? Ernst. Ernst. It's like I was going to make the case earlier, like, in my head, I guess.
01:40:47
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Yeah. that some of the the the bad names are the ones that are the male names adapted to the female female like eugenia and like i don't know like thomasina like those type of ones like not the fun well because there's nice ones like francesca and like alanna i'm the female version of alan but i don't like hate it you know yeah it was I was you know thinking over the merit of the turn this masculine sounding name feminine or whatever it doesn't always work or you could just use like I always liked Sam and Samantha yes Sam Samantha it's almost like the other thing like taking the female and make it sound a little more masculine like
01:41:43
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calling a girl like charlie as a nickname it's like i love that yeah i don't know why
01:41:54
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yeah
01:41:57
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um okay so in this village they they had their own legends they had the local legends that told of times during the op Ottoman rule?
01:42:10
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and misspelled it. Ottoman rule. In the region where entire villages had been wiped out from the sickness and they believed it was supernatural. So, as they often did, they just dug him up and just tear up the body.
01:42:25
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Let's have a look. Let's have an examination.
01:42:30
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Peering into the coffin, they looked at Peter's body and he did seem rather undecomposed, like quote unquote. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of the same old. They thought his hair had grown, his nails looked longer, he had blood apparently in and around his mouth, and when they thrust a stake through his chest, hitting his heart, they hoped, then fresh blood poured from his mouth and ears.
01:42:56
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Allegedly.
01:42:59
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So they burn his body to ashes. Same old. And they believe this would lift the curse and scare away the vampire spirit and all that. And from from Bald's report on the matter, ah which was one of the first documented testimonies of vampire beliefs in Eastern Europe.
01:43:18
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he In it, he begged his superiors to forgive his actions, saying how it was necessary to appease the town people. was just a little weasel. No. Yeah.
01:43:29
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Like, I mean, we don't care.
01:43:33
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you did that to a corpse, whatever. If the townspeople are the ones that are asking you to do that, then... Yeah. I don't think it's bad. it's i think it's worse when it's the other way around, you know? When, like, officials are the ones asking you to do that to, like, somebody's family members and the family members are opposed to but But in this way, it's kind of opposite. do yeah Yeah. The families are the ones like, please do this.
01:44:04
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investigate. He's like, I helped some people, but I feel weird. Look at this cat. Look at this shenanigans.
01:44:16
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I was just saying he never looks very upright. was up like on the window almost. Exit the room. You're being so distracting. Come on, baby. what what long Let's just leave the room.
01:44:32
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It's rude. He's stealing the spotlight when I don't have very long to go. but yeah bugger. Oh, and I just tried to
Cats, Burials, and Folklore
01:44:43
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think about how we can look back now and think about how different diseases could affect the the lore.
01:44:51
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Yeah. yeah We do know. That one that was like porphyria or just different ones where like sunlight affects you or different things that seem to. Oh, yeah. yeah The same traits as vampires. I think I talked about that one.
01:45:05
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I think so. Like I was like, I remember these names and stuff. And it made sense when they talked about some of the reasoning behind why these could have arisen.
01:45:16
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who
01:45:19
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and sometimes with the burials of people sometimes the business of burials was a good one and also booming I mean don't your parents always tell you to get into a recession proof business like ah three death it never ends you're like thanks thanks mom how's AI gonna take over embalming and planning funerals or like hosting funerals My specific moment in time, i was like, I'm going to be a travel agent. They're like, it's going all online.
01:45:54
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yeah Now it's like, everything's online and ai Right? Sorry, I thought he was like trying to open the cupboard in the hallway. know But he wasn't.
01:46:11
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He's the little furry feline.
01:46:17
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toddler um oh yeah can't leave them unattended the other day I had a oops sorry it was a water bottle like it had a cover and stuff even and it just had like the straw though and I went to the bathroom and all like your so and I and barely get out the bathroom and the water bottle is just pouring off the coffee table right onto the carpet and like great like oh no sakes buddy it was gone for 30 seconds yeah and you're just like fuck this damn it yeah they really do get into everything don't they that's that's really it's like oh my god buddy i know it really makes you rethink everything you do before you go like the math ah yeah yeah i feel that pain
01:47:08
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One of the few times I don't take it with me. i go the bathroom, leave the room, anything, i take it with me. reach it.
01:47:18
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So annoying.
01:47:22
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They can get it. The cat came back. um so other troubles with the burials ah did occur in the 17th century again when, quote, Sexton's around.
01:47:35
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well were forced to add another layer of burials to their graveyards. So rather than burying the deceased six feet under, it they settled for two. End quote. Oh no. It's just overcrowding, of which I had never heard of like this type. Yeah.
01:47:52
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You know, it's like crypts, catacombs. We all know that, you know, there was overcrowding at times, but they were just pushing them down. I mean, I ran across a thing saying in one place the Because of... Is it permafrost? Where the ground is, like, frozen solid? There's certain places where the ground um never thaws.
01:48:17
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So, like, people can't bury their dead. it's... It would be tough. Damn! Like, what do you do They come up with those, like, sky barrels. Everybody gets... some yeah everybody gets cremated like i don't know true which is just as efficient efficient as anything else seems to be cremation but i don't know yeah any um oh when they talked about a little bit in this one uh source how that
01:48:53
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disturbances where mass graves would get flooded or sometimes breached meaning like they were like oh you know just like wild wolf packs and stuff that would get into them okay gross yeah don't love that Made me think. There was a. I literally listened to a we're here to help episode. Where someone i was like.
01:49:18
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um we We bought a house and it's great. But then my partner or my husband or whatever. were like felt you know We found this like tombstone. And he also kind of wants to dig up. To see if there's someone actually buried under there. I'm like I don't think you can do that. This is not.
01:49:35
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Is it on the property? On their property. yeah I believe it's in the states. It was. interesting as a problem it's kind of like they're like was it like an upright gravestone he's like yeah it was upright it was like leaning against a like stump a stump or something and i was like what oh my god that's really weird i don't think it's just Yeah, you can't just even dig to like plant a little something-something. You can't just go digging around, right? That's just great. Yeah, like you gotta find out where your water lines are, and power or some stuff going on with the city. You gotta to make sure you don't hit any of that.
01:50:21
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It's true, because like I was going to plant this little seedling that turned out to not do anything, but like I was like, I looked it up! Yeah. Did my due diligence. Yeah. um So yeah, basically what you said that they would see the dead looking weird, their skin shrinking and all that kind of stuff would give them that idea that they did not look decomposed.
01:50:45
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And specifically they said undecayed revenants, which I was like, oh, I love that word that came up in years too, I think. ah Yeah. I think maybe it's the region because they said they were told of as the Slavic vampire.
01:51:00
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or don't know if it's pronoun pronounced like up ear. It's spelled P Y R. And they said it was like an early vampire creature.
01:51:13
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So, you know, a variant, I guess. I don't know. uper Up ear up ear. don't know. Um, to close it out quickly. no But there was basically just, yeah, a couple other ones mentioned.
01:51:27
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i thought this one sounded cool. That was called Dracula's Bride. Didn't go into detail, but this was apparently the case of Sarah Ellen Roberts. Did you come across that?
01:51:41
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I'm sorry. I don't think so. okay. um It said she was accused of murder and witchcraft. And that they nailed her inside a lead coffin on June 9th, 1913. Which is not that long ago. That's way too recent.
01:51:58
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Right? I was like, are you nailing somebody inside of a metal coffin? That made me go, wait, what?
01:52:09
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She was not allowed to be buried in her home country of England. And so for all that, she cursed the people who perpetrated this and vowed revenge in 80 years. So for all that we know, they looked at her gravesite 80 years later in 93, but nothing happened.
01:52:27
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and So I don't know. Okay, cool.
01:52:32
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Do with that what you will. um Another honorable mention to the Coventry Street vampire attacks. Another British one.
01:52:42
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Cause that's no, no, no. We weren't in Britain. We were in Serbia several times. Sorry.
01:52:50
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Um, but no, this one. Yeah. April 1922. In London, a man is walking home early one morning from work when he feels a sharp pain in his neck. He has a puncture wound. Like he was stabbed with something.
01:53:03
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He feels a force of some kind and it left him drained of some blood and energy. And he woke up disoriented in Charing Cross hospital.
01:53:12
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So did you see that one on your like research at all? Oh, I can't. No, I had. one Sorry.
01:53:24
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I don't even know if I have written down the other cases anymore because there really wasn't a whole lot of information about them. Yes, I could see that for sure.
01:53:35
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um But that that one made me think where they said like a puncture wound, like he was stabbed. I was, um, after like Pat was doing some of the mowing, like lawnmowing and whatever. And then he did, there was some weed whacking to the front of the house.
01:53:52
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I was like, Oh, I'll go out. He's probably almost done. He's going to go do the back or whatever. And I was just going to go sweep off the walkway from like the grass. But then as I go to do there, he was still like doing some weed whacking of some stuff that was,
01:54:06
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like weeds coming out of our driveway and then i was like and i felt like i felt like i a bite and i thought was that the ants because i was sweeping up the ant thing or like i looked up to see if it was like hailing because it felt like a weird like sharp prick and i looked over and was like it's because i'm standing too close where pat's weed whacking and he's like his debris is hitting my arm i was like that's why i hate weed so weird gets everywhere It felt like it was something stinging On glasses, hair.
01:54:37
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Yeah. Yes. I have to like sweep off the side of the like house because it gets all up on the siding. I hate it I want when we do my yard, I am digging along the fence and just putting a little like trench, like just an inch away from the fence so that I can just do it with a lawnmower. Like, no.
01:54:58
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it's gonna be guess smart yeah not very deep or anything but just a little bit down so that like i just comes out i want to be able to catch it with the i can get almost all of it right now but um yeah i just want to have to not use a lot of weed whacker ever again oh totally i hate them
01:55:22
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Here we're like Tupac over here. We're like, oh, driveway, we get stuff coming up between the cracks. Maybe we're growing a rose. I don't know. but um Well, yeah, that one I couldn't find too much more on, but and there was a little bit about more than what happened in the Coventry Street attacks, if you will.
01:55:50
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It was on the night of the full moon in April 1922 and an enormous black bat-like creature with a six-foot wingspan was reported flying around West Drayton Church in London.
01:56:03
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That was a little different. I liked that. Yeah. But that was the same month the man felt the puncture wound so it was maybe connected?
01:56:15
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Maybe we not? um Several pet people said they witnessed it dive down into the cemetery and prowl about the tombs. This is still a quote. Two policemen gave it chase, causing it to emit a blood-curdling screech and fly away.
01:56:31
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An old man opined that the creature was the spirit of a vampire who, in the 1890s, had murdered a woman by drinking her blood. Hmm. Hmm.
01:56:42
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Or other sources will say it's the spirit of the woman who was murdered in the 1890s. That's what I found anyway. um Later on
Closing Thoughts and Future Episodes
01:56:54
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April 16th, around 6 a.m., m a man walking down Coventry seat the Street in London's West End felt himself seized by an invisible presence and bitten on the neck.
01:57:04
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He felt as though his blood were being sucked out and he fell unconscious. When he awakened in Charing Cross Hospital, doctors said he appeared to have been stabbed with a thin tube.
01:57:17
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oh A needle? Maybe. Wasn't there one where a bunch of ladies kept getting stabbed and they stabbed back with their hat pins in early London?
01:57:29
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I can't remember. I don't know. Good on you. Those hat pins were pretty long sometimes. I've seen them. If you're going to stab someone through their bustle and their petticoat into their ass, I'm going to stab you back.
01:57:46
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Oh, man. Maybe we'll have to cover that.
01:57:52
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Two and a half hours later, a second unconscious man was brought to the same hospital. He was bleeding heavily from the neck. When he regained consciousness, he was told of being attacked by an invisible presence while walking down Coventry Street.
01:58:04
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Or he also told, rather. Later in the evening, a third victim with the same story and wounds was admitted to the hospital. All three said they'd been stabbed at exactly the same spot. So, yeah.
01:58:18
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That was pretty much that on that one. Other than, like, They hired someone to go stamp a potential vampire lying in Highgate Cemetery and Bobby's her uncle. Problem solved. And everyone forgets about it.
01:58:34
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Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know how else that resolved, but you're just like, all right, at least hopefully that was over. It stopped. Yeah. It's weird.
01:58:45
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Crazy, right? The bat-like creature really threw me. so Yeah. Six feet. I always had a fondness for the man-bat creature in Batman. He was just... He had wings. He was more bat than man.
01:59:04
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don't know. We had the toy. and We had the action figure.
01:59:11
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Anyway. um We'll see you next time. Not next week, but next time for the Canada-focused episode.
01:59:22
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ooh Very special. And we'll also have a Patreon episode. True. What if we choose our Patreon? I can't remember already.
01:59:34
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Did you write it down? I did, but now I'm wrecking my brains. um
01:59:43
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National Park Forest Crimes. Yes, that's the Yes, that's the one. We were like, it is summer. ah yeah What scares you when you're camping? People go camping, traveling.
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02:00:22
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Until next time. Keep it. Bye. Sorry. that
02:00:28
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so
02:01:07
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ah um
02:01:12
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Okay. She's getting on the phone. Camera phone.
02:01:19
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Sorry. Just asking Pat if he was bored because he's scrolling through the YouTubes.
02:01:35
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all right um no just lip jab i guess it was just because it was one of the tube ones and like my births bees uh lip jab oh it's like me the only time i put on like colored lip gloss or anything like that weirdly is like if i get too drunk at home and then i'm like I'm going to put some on and look in the mirror.
02:02:02
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I'm so pretty. And then I'm like, why do I do that? So stupid. Yeah. easier to wipe off than your whole eyes like taylor used to be like i'd put on eye makeup for the day and then just wipe it all off and i was like oh barely remember to wipe my my skin would be yeah my skin would be so red anytime i wake i to wipe off my makeup or anything your skin my skin is so sensitive like go red tell me about it that's funny okay sorry so they yeah they gordo
02:02:44
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I'm Elberpo over here. It's okay. It's just like on the chair now. Buddy, why don't you just exit the room?
02:02:55
Speaker
This is the most energy you ever have, you little meerkat. Right? Or sit on the chair nicely. Can I get kicked out if you start scratching that? I don't know. I have a plug in my computer.
02:03:09
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Chill. Chillax, bro. Take a chill pill.
02:03:17
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Oh no, now I have to perp. Oh yeah. Sorry. Pardon me. Um...