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204: Psi Phenomena: Premonition Man
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Hello Cryptic Crew, and welcome back to our latest episode!
This time its Kelsey's turn to deliver a curious case of a man who had some very prophetic dreams. Chris Robinson (not the one married to Amanda Knox, not to be confused with Canadian icon Christopher Robin either, you're welcome :)
He was often accurate at predicting disasters like airplane crashes and received the information through dreams. He even had a working relationship with local police. Theories include other worldly guides giving him advance knowledge, but you be the judge! We like to try and keep our minds open, and don't forget the movie talk, has anyone else seen Tron: Ares lol or ... what are you all watching this season?
Part two will be a dive into Telepathy Tests and Controversies too! Stay tuned, it's dropping soon as a Yule treat! Keep it Cryptic!
Head to Patreon.com for bonus content monthly and a backlog of hundreds of hours of creepy and cool stories!
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Transcript
Introduction to Darkcast Network and Hosts
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Darkcast Network. Indie pods with a dark side.
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Welcome back to Castles and Cryptids, where the castles are haunted. The cryptids are cryptic as fuck. And I'm your host, Alanna. And I'm Kelsey. And we're still Canadian as fuck.
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Did you miss us? Yeah. um Yeah. I think we're back after another two weeks or something, so this is hitting your ears.
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early December and hope you're all having a good time. Only couple weeks till Christmas once again. yeah How did that happen?
Holiday Season Reflections
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So, uh, it's been busy of course and blah, blah, blah. We get our annual sicknesses and other bullshit.
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Yeah. I don't know. I was like, yeah, we talk about stuff? Who knows? So that's all. But we're all jiving and thriving. It's just dark and depressing here. And we're all trying to like white knuckle it through the holidays.
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No, that sounds really bad, but yeah. Yeah, it's been. It gets busy for you. Yeah, crazy busy at work. Everybody's.
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Everybody's doing pretty good. Like, I feel like this year we're better off than we were last year. Like, the managers have everything a little more structured, so stuff seems a little bit more thought out and planned. We're not, you know redoing and undoing what we did the day before every single day.
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so that's been really nice. Madness. Yeah.
Structured Management and Workplace Efficiency
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Yeah, difference. Yeah, can make all the difference. thats Yeah, just a lot easier to maintain. But yeah, lots of changes coming.
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Oh, man. It be like that sometimes. lets Cold AF getting there. and it's so cold here. i'm probably going have to go make sure my car is plugged in after this because I can't take pass tomorrow. He has an appointment. Oh, damn. Yeah.
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oh damn yeah I know it's been so nice driving out of the heated garage and having the the good tires on the Patmobile. Not that mine can't like make it, but they're all seasons and they do
Holiday Movie Rituals and Recommendations
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need to be replaced because you know, you'd wear them the whole year round while the winter tires, they're much better and they last you twice as long.
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But that's okay. Car problems, you've got cat problems. Yeah, it's been an expensive few months. It was like Gordo and Gordo in the summer and then Christmas. And now we have a vacation planned that's also super expensive.
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National Lampoon's Christmas vacation. my god, I keep watching just like my days off. I'd be like, wake up. I'm like, oh, is Pat going to a video game probably? Because like that's his routine on his day.
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his days off i was gonna say ha no his everyday life his days yeah um and then it's like but like you know if i have a day off or whatever it's no you want to watch something and usually during the day i'm like yeah it's bright out like maybe i'll putter around do some things take a shower whatever like i'm not ready to sit down and watch a movie but then this weekend i did like wake up and watch a christmas movie a couple days it was just very comforting nice yeah i'm just like oh yeah they keep mentioning ones they like like recommendations on other pods like how did this get made because it's a movie podcast so obviously they're like oh watch this one or i'm in this one and you're like okay like yeah i watched the family stone don't know that was an old one it's just but
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You're like, oh, they're always touching. They're like the family's fight, but they always then have their makeup moment. That was just what was looking for. They feel that holiday spirit at the end. I want to see some people showing they love each other right now.
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so My seasonal depression needs it. Yeah.
Movie Reviews: Avatar and Other Films
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I haven't watched... What, the last movie I watched, weirdly, was the new Avatar? Well, not even. The new-to-me Avatar movie, the The Way of Water, the one that came out two or three years ago. I still haven't seen it, because it's, like, fucking three hours long. or yeah It was three hours long, so I didn't have, like, yeah yeah a fifth of a day to dedicate this fucking movie.
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That's not a movie. So I finally did. And watched it. It's relationship. It's a one-name stand. ah Yeah, that was the last thing I watched.
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Super Christmassy, I know. ah yeah Well, you know, us, we're like horror movie, like almost any yeah time of the day. Yeah. I have a ah couple Christmas horror movies I'm going to watch. Yes.
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That's the other genre I was gonna mention. They're fun too. Yeah.
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Yeah, there's a few that I haven't seen. i don't know. So today, what are we gonna talk about? You can tell
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I can't even remember but we talked about when we settled on this topic even. feel like it's been like a month, but it was like abilities. I don't know what else to say. I don't remember what we talked about.
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Sorry. I missed it. Yes. um Yeah. We've heard different things.
Exploring Psychic Abilities
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Psy abilities and psychic abilities. There's definitely lots of terms you can throw around.
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Yeah. We talked about like similar things a couple other times too. Right. I think I did a psychic horse. Yeah, then I did the guys, the men who stare at goats.
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think that was in like the declassified. It might be on Patreon or did we did we release that one to the public? I can't even remember.
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can't either. Add us in the comments.
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it was good though i like that stuff it's really interesting then yeah you're like oh it's one of those that uh sounds too weird to be true but then it gets confirmed and you're like see sometimes yeah people people be uh doing weird scientific studies sometimes they come out and they publish the results and you're like why did that need to be a scientific study like That was probably millions of dollars of research. And it was basically like if you had walked up to somebody in the street and said, hey, is rain wet? And they were like, yeah.
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was like, oh, cool. Like, did you need to do a million dollar study to figure out rain's wet? That's how some of those studies feel. They're like, oh, results. ah We did a double blind to make sure that the person just hadn't heard that rain was wet.
Skepticism Towards Scientific Studies
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They had actually experienced the wetness of rain. oh my God. That does make me specifically think about a part in the, the new Tron movie, which was another one we just watched. Oh, damn. Like they're not, the people have like, they're not people. So they haven't experienced rain. So the one like, like it's not really a spoiler, but she describes it as like, he's like, I think I felt rain or something. And she's like, Oh,
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You know, like the the condensation falling from clouds and perfectly even droplets or something like that. Like the most scientific, like, doesn't just say precipitation, you know. You're like, yes, that.
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That's the feeling. It's like you, uh, you braved Jared Leto being the main character in a fucking movie. And that's the second time I've seen it.
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No! You must know. We watched it on vacation with mom because we kind of just want to go see a movie and we were facilitating whatever waffling between there wasn't much else out except for the roof man, which I think looks good, but don't know.
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I think mom just thought it was maybe going to be all. action and shooting and then she but she also did think that Tron was based on like she's like I don't know the video game or something like was like it's not like really based on a real video game so you don't really know she's like she's like no that's okay i'm I'm good just to go for the entertainment like it looks like it'll be an entertaining really yeah it probably will be then like it is but yeah like this I tell you what the plot's about it like it was kind of different from the first two and it didn't have as much to do with it so that's
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what some fans don't like. Pat, no. But yeah. Yeah, I i have like zero interest in seeing Even if it didn't have Jared Leto in it. Oh, I was gonna say because of the Leto of it all. because like No. I don't mind the second one. But anyway.
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Yeah, yeah we're always movies, guys. this is I don't know what else exciting to tell you. This is it.
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Yeah, that and watching Traders and maybe doing some Christmas shopping. Oh god, yeah, Christmas shopping. Right?
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I have more stuff I have to buy tomorrow. have to go to work on my on my day off and buy things. Ew.
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just ah Just a few things I think I need to pick up. Because, yeah, I couldn't do it today. and get back in time well today our discount doesn't start it starts tomorrow so there we they gave us another another discount day right i don't even know if i told you that yes uh another yeah percent yeah that's good yeah it's fun so it's this weekend we actually like literally had almost nothing to do today because we
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the, uh, the queue for January renewals. That's you. Yeah. No, it doesn't start until like December 15th to generate. And we finished all the December stuff by like, Oh damn.
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And then I can work on, uh, you know, like there's people do other things like the phones and driver's abstracts and stuff. And I do Alberta healthcare care apps or the easy ones anyway.
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But we were like basically out of those and people are just like decorating. It's like, this is weird. Oh, I wish. Take me back to that. People are like, I'm bored at work. I wish I could go home. And I was like, pay me to sit here and do nothing.
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pay me to use your Wi-Fi. I don't care. but do you remember those days when there wasn't anything to do and it did really go slow? Because sometimes we did have those days in travel too. Yeah, but like if I don't, if I'm not customer facing where I can literally be sitting on my phone instead of pretending to be on the computer, like doing something, then I will sit at my desk and I will read a book. Like I will read a book. I did be scrolling the Reddit though, but my cubicle does kind of face out. So sometimes you can't be on it all day, but yeah, people are like, other people have like nothing to do. It's like, yeah.
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I'll go take a nap. It's what it's. Yeah. I'll go dust. I'll go sweep the floor. like i don't care. I'll find something. We should have because somebody's going to have to vacuum up all that glitter from all those fucking ornaments. Tis the season for our the glitter.
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yeah oh my god. I do miss a good Christmas party though. i haven't been to one of those in a while. Like just at a family house, friend's house. You know, like we have the formal one at work, but that's boring.
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Yeah. Sit down dinner. I'm like, nah, I don't want that. Just want to like nosh on some stuff and have some people over go to someone's house. Like, yeah, we I didn't I worked at our Christmas party. They needed somebody to work. So.
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I was like, I have gone to the last four. i was like, I'll work. And then they're like, oh, they sent us a bunch more money for like the social club. So they're like, we can do another party. So they're like, going to one on New Year's Day because our store, instead of being open till nine, um New Year's Eve and New Year's Day were only open till six. So they're like, we can do it actually at the store and everybody can come. yeah.
00:14:25
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That way, like, nobody has to work. like Like, there's nobody that has to be scheduled to be, like, working at the store. And they're like, and we can do all the games. And then everybody knows how to get here and
Work-related Holiday Parties
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everything because that's where they work. So it's like, oh, yeah. And they're like, yeah we can have it.
00:14:44
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So what did they? Yeah, we're going to have it, like, catered. And we're going to play a bunch of games. And oh we'll see. It'll probably be a huge turnout.
00:14:55
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Compared to the parties that they try and do at like, I think the last one was like Buffet Royale or something. Oh no. yeah But like, yeah, it sucks. It is rough when like it's retail and stuff where you're always open. Like the weed stores are open on Christmas day. Like I can't believe you guys aren't even closed on Thursday.
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It's crazy. the only day we're closed is Christmas day. It's the only day. And then we havely she add he' um we have like some holiday hours but where we're open until 6. But most of the time, like the last couple of years, they've gotten rid of most of the holiday hours. So yeah, there's a lot less holidays that have less hours.
00:15:43
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Most of it's just regular hours now. So it's like, yeah, they sent us money and you guys want to spend it on food and have a party? Yeah, we'll come.
00:15:54
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That does seem to be the way of the healthy economy in this province. It's like, you go out west to make money. And to spend it. and You're like, okay. Yeah, we're stimulating the economy by having this christmas this not Christmas, this New Year's Day party.
00:16:13
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Yeah. Well, if they give you a little more money at Christmas, that's, yeah, and then you're like, alright! Christmas coming down this year! Yeah.
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Yeah, they sent us a lot. It's like per head. And because we have like 140 employees, what they normally send us is times like 140. So, yeah. it was It was crazy. And then they sent us, i won't say what they sent us the first time, but this extra money was like five grand.
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So that was the extra money. We had way more than that the first time. And that's Like for the party and stuff? Yeah, that's why we're having a second party. Because like we have five more grand we don't know what to do with.
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like Yeah, okay. That's a party. yeah yeah right? Strap appreciation. Yeah, need that though.
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Yeah, it'll be nice. But anyway. Right. Banter section done. Somebody in the comments. Check that off the list.
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Yeah, the real talk starts at 18.05 or whenever. when started recording this. ah Yeah, Kelsey's gonna talk and then we'll Because mine ended up being long, so that one's gonna be... yeah That'll be later on.
00:17:41
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I was just trying to say I don't have any pictures or anything to show you with mine, but I don't think it's really necessary. Can have any pictures of ESP?
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That's too bad.
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ah This guy... What did It was some, like, list of abilities, and it was just people that were talking about people that, like, were predicting the future through their dreams, like seeing events happening in their dreams, or, like, disasters and stuff before they happened and then um yeah ending up yeah and then it coming true nice yeah i'm obsessed with that that's kind of interesting yeah it makes it it's like the what the final destination movies the a lot of uh movie plot lines and stuff that's people trying to
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prevent things right like like right it's the question of is if something's predestined to happen like yeah what could we yeah yeah and we talked about no anyway it doesn't matter i was like i think i talked about one not too long ago but i don't remember if was patreon or anything but the the coal mine thing the slag heap oh yeah school yeah yeah i remember that one yeah ah Okay.
Chris Robinson: The Premonition Man
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Hope yours isn't depressing. yeah um No, not really. ah Long pause. Just kidding. Considering this gentleman by the name of Chris Robinson, he most often deals with like disasters of some kind. so I mean, that part is depressing.
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But I don't think the actual... case or anything is that bad. obviously the people that survived and experienced these tragedies and disasters, it would not be fun in any way because these are very serious events.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. lot of times it is something, yeah, oh no, if something bad's gonna happen. You're like, oh great. How do I prevent this? Yeah, and it's not minor things. It's like, thing.
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Big, big things that occur. ah so some of the information I got, because there isn't a whole lot that I was able to find. Some of it's off Chris's website.
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And then at the end, I also have, because he did publish a book with a couple people that like helped him write it ah So I do have some little, you know, how they have little blurbs.
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being like so-and-so from whatever and like their opinion on the book. I do have a couple of those at the end. Reviews of his book. I know. i always want to buy the book. Always want to buy the book. Yeah. So Chris is a British citizen who claims to have the psychic ability to see the future in his dreams. Dun dun dun!
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Dun dun! He was born in August of 1951 and originally the first thing I read said he got the ability when he was 10 after undergoing some sort of surgery from a medical condition.
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But then when I got to the stuff from his website or whatever, it said that he got the ability at the age of 35 after actually briefly dying during a heart attack.
00:21:54
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Wow. So like, that's very different than the first story. So I'm going to believe the website.
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so His website, you mean? Yeah, it was, like, his website, because he has, like, seminars and stuff the online. So I think it was, like, from one of the seminars. And then also in the book, um on the thing that was talking about the book, it also mentioned, like, he got the ability at age 35. And I was like, okay, so I'm going to trust that source a lot more than...
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Yeah, it's more credible. Whatever the first one was saying.
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age 10 to age 35. That's big. Very different. He should remember which one it was. Right? That's very different. So this left him with the ability to loosely dream in great detail about the future, about future events. particularly tragedies and disasters that hadn't happened yet.
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Dang. a power. You're like, why Right? I'm sure if you actually read his book, there's probably a lot more examples. I really only found,
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ah like, two kind of main things that happened that we're talking about.
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yeah what was the book called sorry no said it i know you did i forgot uh no not yet because i have it later on oh so um i was like i'm sure i an thing yes no the premonition man uh ufos aliens and spirits in the afterlife help a psychic to dream the future that's the title oh no jesus i ga i hold up because of The main heading. Yeah, the subheadings are always so crazy.
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How I learned to conquer my fears and visit UFOs, aliens. Unicorns are my dreams. Yeah. um So the first thing that happened, I guess, is he... was dreaming of a plane crash that he could see that was going to happen at some sort of air show. And I don't know if he exactly where it was going to be or anything, um but he did take note that in his like vision that he was able to see, it looked like the pilots would survive and were able to parachute out of the planes. So
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didn't like i don't know if they were injured or what but um doesn't sound like anybody was gonna die
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it's kind of like the first one that i ran across that he was talking about yeah it's like what do you do with that if you only have the big info um somehow he was able to figure out where this air show was going to be and he actually bought tickets to it oh my Yeah, and he actually ended up being there while this crash happened.
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um Yeah, it was weird because he actually, well, right before it happened, after he figured out it was definitely like what he had seen, he tried calling the police to warn them, like send, I think probably like send emergency response or something, like people to help, there's going to be a crash. And then he like saw it happen in real life.
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And I guess the police hadn't believed him, so I don't think they had really sent anybody until after the fact when they heard about the crash actually happening and then, like, emergency response responded to the crash. But it was like, hey, I called you a lot of long ago.
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like, to be fair to them, yeah it's an absurd claim, but at the same time, shouldn't we already have medical staff on hand? You're doing an air show?
00:26:19
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There's a possibility. I think so. so right in front of many people 1986 so do we have the safety standards there's probably a fire extinguisher and somebody with a tourniquet that's all they have um yeah so that happened um And then the next big thing is, i guess, after the air show event, he like kept in contact with the police, which I thought was kind of interesting. He would kind of keep them updated on some of these other dreams he was having.
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so didn't really have any details about any of those. ah maybe But they believe him now. Buy that book. Yeah, it seems like at least to a point. Yeah, they believed him.
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So he had a decent relationship with the police. um And I guess stuff was happening frequently enough and accurately enough that Chris ended up going to live in the U.S. and was undergoing precognitive experiments with a Professor Gary E. Schwartz at the University of Arizona. That must Tom Cruise's character who in Minority Report.
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Precogs, precogs!
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I have no idea. um This is at the University of Arizona. so he's they're doing all these experiments, which they tried to explain, but it didn't really make sense to me because it said during the experiments, he was taken to locations in the area without knowing where he was.
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And he successfully predicted details from different locations he had dreams about, but had never visited in person. so I was like... Okay.
00:28:17
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So he was taken to different locations, not knowing where he was, but he had already dreamed about those locations. So does it matter if he doesn't know where he was, if he's already seen that location? don't... Yeah, it just seems...
00:28:33
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A little clunky way to say that he's describing locations that he only knows from his dreams. It's like, we blindfolded you on the drive here so you don't know where we are, but we're going to take the blindfold off.
00:28:46
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Like, so you can describe? Well, hopefully they had him described before. but it's like, what the fuck kind of experiment is this?
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Yeah, don't know why you need to take him there. Yeah, exactly. but yeah i guess it was accurate enough that um the team was like keeping him there i don't know exactly how long he was in the states for um but this professor schwartz uh was keeping a record of many dreams and other details that chris was reporting while he was like conducting the experiments and stuff um
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And it was on August 5th, 2001, I guess, that Chris first reported dreaming about a plane crashing into a large building in New York City.
Predictions of 9/11 and Ignored Warnings
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As you can guess. It's 9-11. And 5th is my mom's birthday. Oh, jeez. Yeah, that's like a month before...
00:29:54
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um Yeah, and he like tells this Professor Schwartz guy and they start writing down everything he can remember. he stated that the plane that was involved was hijacked and then flown into two large tower blocks.
00:30:11
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like Okay, wow. think he means He also had provided details about a chaotic aftermath and that many, many people would die. um Damn. But weirdly, this Professor Schwartz guy was more focused on their study of him being able to predict details of locations then Chris's ability to predict the future and didn't take this vision seriously, but did write it down, I guess.
00:30:46
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Even with the prediction of the many deaths, okay. Yeah, right? And it's like tra history, like he choice Air crash show and other stuff that had happened.
00:30:57
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Right. so yeah, this is like around August sometime. um so i guess they conclude their experiments and study they were trying to do. And Chris returns to the UK.
00:31:10
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And during this time, his dreams about the plane crash become more and more intense. So I don't know if they're like more detailed or happening more frequently, but he continues to record um everything he can remember about them and starts even making drawings of the buildings.
00:31:32
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And yeah. I mean, that's, he's closer to it than that Baba Vanga was. She was predicting it way back and it was like fiery birds or something. And you're like, yeah, yeah I don't think it's not quite specific enough.
00:31:50
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Why couldn't you give us the name? Like when you, kind of predicted that submarine or whatever she... the cur two so Oh my god, I can't remember how to say it. The Kursk... Ugh.
00:32:04
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They're just so vague. These predictions are so hard to pin down sometimes. Yeah. Hindsight. So I guess he takes things one step further because he had that working relationship at least back with the police in the UK. Okay. So he ends up informing them about his dreams, saying they're getting worse.
00:32:26
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And on September 9th, 2001, he ends up, I guess, writing a letter to the U.S. Embassy in London, trying to warn them of the threat that was going to come. Like, he he doesn't know when, but he's seeing it, like, more vividly. and It's getting more intense. So he's just trying to warn anybody that would listen.
00:32:48
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Right. The more people that know, maybe somebody will recognize something Yeah. yeah I couldn't run into anything else that was, like, talking about 9-11 and everything other than what he must have wrote down or talked to that embassy about or the police about. Must have been detailed enough or suspicious enough that at some point in 2002, the Secret Service took Chris in for further experiments.
00:33:20
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Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, Experiments. um I kind of thought you' were going to say questioning or something. I thought so too. but Interrogation. Yeah.
00:33:34
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Yeah. They brought him in and he conducted experiments with them, the findings of which have never been published or made public. So oh that's a little interesting. Okay.
00:33:50
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Curiouser and Curiouser. Did he find out how much? Because they could have published it and been like, it's all bogus. and no it's all bogus um Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:03
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Or then he found out, or they found out he knew too much. Yeah, right? Yeah, I thought that was a little weird. They're like, oh yeah, the findings of this study, we don't know when into in 2002, we don't know how long, or what it involved, and it's never been made public.
00:34:22
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It's like, damn. It wasn't. Yeah, wasn't that the whole point? Or like, it's like the opposite of the point of the Patriot Act. Like, we can look into all your shit, but no, no, no, no. You guys have questions for us? No, no, no, no. Yeah.
00:34:34
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Yeah. So getting into some of the stuff, this I think was from his website. Okay. These were kind of interesting. it has a little bit, little like snippets.
00:34:51
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um saying highlights from his amazing life of uncannily accurate predictions include learning to interpret the code used by his dream communicators.
00:35:04
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I think something later just says he maybe gets this information from aliens and they don't speak English, so he had to figure out how to communicate with them. I was like, okay. Hmm.
00:35:19
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Okay, well I was supposed figuring, like, ah just assuming he was getting kind of images, so, yeah. I know, that's what I had thought. i was like, what do you mean interpret the code used by his dream communicators? i was like, alright then.
00:35:32
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Yeah, it sounds like he's got some sort of a guide or interpreter that's, net like, a middleman helping him out with the images. He's got a source.
00:35:43
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Man on the inside! So I guess he was able to accurately predict the Locker B bombing, which I ended up looking up. I'll tell you what it is and i'm in a minute because I had never heard of it. um That 9-11 attack, also something involving the death of Princess Diana.
00:36:07
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and i thought you just said that 9-11 attack which was the most casual way i've ever heard it referred to well we already talked about it i know everybody should know we've covered it it's been talked to death i mean ah the horse is beaten yeah um working with british police and american intelligence working with researchers to prove psychic ability Emotional ups and downs associated with experiencing so many disasters in lucid dreams.
00:36:43
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This is reading like his resume. um Yeah, this is his website. down It's because this is his website. It's very earnest. I like it. Visions of, oh no, sorry, being implicated as a suspect in cases for reporting crimes that had not yet occurred. was like, tell us more about that.
00:37:05
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Oh, not yet occurred. That's what they do in Minority Report with Tom Cruise. The precogs sit in their little milk bath and they say, that person's going to commit a crime. Well, not really, but you know, it's the basic premise. which is Oh yeah, I've seen it.
00:37:23
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I guess that's why my joke landed so good earlier. Just kidding. He's also seen Visions of World War III. As well as a range of UFO and UAP experiences.
00:37:39
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Okay, so that's come up a few times then. Because also I think Baba Vanga had the... Like, the World War III thing does come up a worrying amount in other people's predictions. Yeah, I don't like that.
00:37:51
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But the aliens, too. At some point, something's going to be considered World War III. It's just gotta be. um And then he's also apparently had surgeries on his body that were conducted by aliens in spacecraft environments that left him physically changed.
00:38:10
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Did he find an alien device in him? Oh my god. That's so weird. It was Akon! Ooh, he was the hot one. was me Sounds like a rapper. Will totally impregnate you with his alien baby. That tracks. Yeah.
00:38:28
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So the Lockerbie bombing, because it was like, oh, that's something. I don't know what that is. was like, oh, if it's in this list, it's got to be like fairly notable. ah So that there's like a lot more to get into.
00:38:46
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to it, but the gist of it is on December 21st, 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 took off from Heathrow Airport in London and it was bound for New York City.
00:39:01
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And among the 259 passengers and crew were 190 Americans and they never made it home. About 40 or less than 40 minutes into the plane or into the flight, the plane exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland, and it killed everyone on board, and then 11 Scots that were on the ground as well. So pretty oh pretty devastating.
00:39:31
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oh my god Okay. And we might need to talk about this. Was mishearing it as, like, locker? Like, b Like, someone's, like, a school locker or something? Some sort of, like, It's kind of spelled like that. It's like Lacheron and B-I-E because that's the name of the place.
00:39:52
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Oh my god, that was way crazier than i expected. And I didn't know this, but I guess until nine eleven it was one of the world's most lethal attacks of air terrorism and one of the largest and most complex acts of international terrorism ever investigated by the FBI.
00:40:13
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So I was like, damn, and I've never heard of that. Right. Yeah. Because there's a lot of, like, hijackings were, like, a thing, but, like, yeah, they didn't just go blowing up planes every day.
00:40:28
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Yeah, it was also, yeah, there was two people that, because I did briefly read about it there was two people that were originally arrested, And then they actually recently reinvestigated the case and arrested a third person. And it's been 40 some years, basically. And they just finally arrested a third person involved in it. I was like, Jesus, like what are you doing? Isn't that crazy, though, the way they like do the plane reconstruction and everything to figure out yeah like how the crashes happened? And you're just like watching them put it together like a gigantic, enormous jigsaw puzzle.
00:41:06
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Yeah, um but that that one's kind of involved it also. um ah can't remember what nationality the people were involved, but I'm pretty sure that everything happening with nine eleven years later on top of this one, because it seemed to be similar, like Middle East people that had bombed it, so. It was probably not great.
00:41:38
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Yeah. it's yeah yeah Well, it sucks when that stuff gets like that, but, you know, it's still tough. It doesn't mean the U.S.'s reaction to it was good.
00:41:52
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does not mean that. I mean, we're still trying not to call it the frickin' Spanish flu from the pandemic a hundred years ago or whatever. It's just like, which makes me think of the smallpox where everybody's like, it's the French disease. No, it's the Spanish disease. No, it's the Italian disease. Everyone's just blaming everybody else. And you're like, okay.
00:42:15
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What are we doing here, people? Yeah, so that was my quick detour because I was like, I've never heard of this Lockerbie thing. And I was like, oh, damn, it's like pre-9-11 and was one of the biggest things before 9-11. It's like, Jesus.
00:42:33
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And I'd never even heard of it. like it still fascinates me how much the security like costs and how much it's different everywhere but how it's so strict because of different things and you know it's like the liquids and that you know because you might have a liquid bomb and you're just like yeah
00:42:56
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crazy um yeah so this is more from like his website thing that I found saying Christopher Robinson is co-author of two books
Robinson's Commercial Psychic Services
00:43:06
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about his own experiences titled The Dream Detective and The Premonition Man.
00:43:13
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ah He has been the subject of a documentary called Premonition Man, The Arizona Experiments, in which under the control and supervision of the University of Arizona psychologist,
00:43:30
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Professor Schwartz, he successfully predicted 10 places he was to visit in the future. oh Okay. ah Again, no more information on that.
00:43:45
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like guess you gotta buy the fucking book. It's behind the paywall, once again. oh no. Wait. like I predict a building. It's probably got stairs, office tile or office carpet.
00:44:00
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There's probably windows. he's predicting places he's going to visit? It's like he's seeing places he's going to visit. bank. No. I don't know. I don't know what these kind of things were. to a house. How generic. feel like there's a girl with a cat there. his name is Gordo. and then I went to Killsy's house. No. Yeah. I'm confused. Oh my god Yeah. What that means as well. Cause it's hard to judge like exactly. Yeah. Based on that sentence.
00:44:28
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This work is also featured in Schwartz's book. Cause he wrote a book too. Even though he didn't fucking believe him about Fucking book.
00:44:38
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ah Cha-ching. Time to cash in Yeah. um And he all, so he, that Professor Schwartz book is called the G-O-D experiments.
00:44:52
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Like, just get out of here. Man, the God out experiments. Yeah. Does not, it does not say what it spells out. The G-O-D experiments.
00:45:08
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S-N-O-O-P-D-O-J-E. Okay, Snoop Dogg, stop naming these books now. oh ah Christopher's ability, forgot to call him Christopher now, his ability to dream of future events has been the subject of other scientific and much journalistic investigation.
00:45:29
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But again, no further information.
00:45:34
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air that like Yeah, journalistic information exists. Yeah, ah much of it, but to list it down below, we can't do that. There's much of it. There's so much.
00:45:46
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All of the investigation. every time you argue, like the the arguments online with somebody and then they just go, do your own research. You're like, yeah, that means you you have one video to point to.
00:45:58
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It's my own research. A 20 second video taken out of context. Great. a um Yeah, so Chris Robinson from England described himself as an ordinary everyday person. he is not a mystic or a religious man.
00:46:18
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However, since 1989, he has been haunted by precognitive dreams on a regular basis. At first, he was scared and horrified, but through thousands of nightly dreams, he learned to read the cryptic messages he was being given and to guide the dreams to get more information about the future attacks and disasters in order that he might do something to avert them.
00:46:44
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ah Many scientists, psychologists, law enforcement officers, and journalists have also crossed Christopher's path and have validated his extraordinary claims. They need extraordinary proof, as those shows. Yeah, please list it down below. and why don't why don't they call him the sleeping prophet then why is that baker casey like um my favorite part of the whole thing was the the one article that said today chris is available as a personal psychic consultant under the business name psychic superstar no and offers various types of advice and dream interpretation he has a He has his website and you can send him money and he will tell you what your dreams will be.
00:47:36
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I'm dying, sorry. It does feel a little bit like a plug. Yeah. He was also, I guess, featured and in a 1990s or an episode of a 1990s British supernatural TV show called Strange But True.
00:47:54
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I feel like we've also had an American version of that. Just the one show, hey? Nobody else. Yeah. Just the one in the 1990s.
00:48:05
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Not even an Unexplained Mysteries episode. No. They did one on a guy that talked to a ghost, I think. Yeah. Nothing.
00:48:17
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shouldn't laugh. But yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, we'd like to know where the other sources are. What was Shatner's show that he did? Wasn't that talking about weird paranormal things? Yes, he does the unexplained. It's still going. I do watch. them Oh, it's still going.
00:48:37
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Oh, my God. And everybody's got one now. But the one that says the extraordinary plain claims need extraordinary proof is called The Proof is Out There. And you know, I do like that one. I think I might have mentioned them before because they will often take a video and then have like a like a video analyst look at it to see if it does look like it's been faked, like whether it's a UFO video or you know, some weird thing. Or they'll like if it looks like it might be a creature, they might get a marine biologist to look at it. So kind of like that. They do try to like, kind of debunk, much as I don't like to say that, but you know, they do try to like, explain it if they can, if the video has been altered or something.
00:49:20
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So that's kind of cool. But yeah, like, Dude has one, Dan Aykroyd. Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck, what's that other actor guy? The Machete guy?
00:49:36
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Oh, it went out of my head. The guy who's in the movie called Machete. i he's in Danny Trejo. There we go. He's the Spanish looking hard ass and everything. He's been in prison with Charles Manson. You know, Trejo. Next
00:49:55
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to us. We'll get a show.
00:50:00
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i have little, these are little blurbs, so I have, you know, like the blurbs about the bug. the It was co-written by Grant Solomon and Jane Solomon, along with Chris Robinson. um So these ones, this little blurb is from Grant and Jane Solomon, saying that Premonition Man charts the real-life experiences of Chris Robinson and tells how, in 1986, at the age of 35, he died but was allowed to return to his earthly life to fulfill a mission agreed
00:50:37
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with a cooperating coordinating team of intelligent beings who existed on the other side. he wasn't 10. That's right. He was 30. This is when I was like, okay.
00:50:52
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Our impression from what we have learned about the life and precognitive dreams of Chris Robinson is that his experiences are especially relevant to afterlife and consciousness research.
00:51:05
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It appears that conscious beings with individual personalities but without physical bodies ah and some claiming to have once experienced a physical lifetime in Earth have been... What is this sentence? and Have been one source of is information from the future. Okay.
00:51:27
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So basically, you learn everything after you die. Other entities... Well, that aligns with some things you hear and like near-death experiences and honestly like some themes that come up in my telepathy studies part two that we're going to get to yeah other entities some of whom could be described as extraterrestrials and others perhaps as interdimensionals have also provided him with such information about the future and then right
00:52:05
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blurb that Chris had ah it's kind of interesting so think I know it is hard for people who are new to the idea to accept that the spirits of supposedly dead people and other beings in other dimensions may know a bit more about the future than we do but that has been my experience and I can only tell it as it is I simply ask that you keep an open mind as you read this book and wait until the end to make judgments or form your conclusions.
00:52:38
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And then the only other quote is one sentence long. And it was from John, no last name, ah who works at the office of the Secretary of Defense National Security Council staffer at the White House.
00:52:57
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The only other person. Are these all off the back of the book? No. I don't know. It was on, like, I can't remember if it was, like, Goodreads or what. It had, like, little blurbs. Yeah. So I don't know they're on the book, but it was, like, almost, like, little reviews. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this John guy, his one sentence, the only one who wasn't a co-author on the book, said...
00:53:23
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There's only one person in the world who started dreaming about the 9-11 attack six months, I guess. I thought it was a month. But six months before it happened and notified the U.S. Embassy in London. And that's his whole quote.
00:53:39
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Like, okay. Was it you, John? you talk No last names. ah yeah Damn. Kind of want to read the book still. Interesting.
00:53:52
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It's got a great name. a Sounds like it should be starring Matt Damon. Yeah, UFOs, aliens, and spirits in the afterlife. Help a psychic to dream the future. The premonition man, he's a premonition man.
00:54:12
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I'm Christopher Robin. I'm just kidding. I know, right? Chris Robinson.
00:54:19
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kept- at one point- at one point I was like, did I write his name wrong? And it's actually Christopher Robin? And I was like, no, Robinson.
00:54:29
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my god.
00:54:33
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Yeah, so apparently you can hire Chris. Um, I can't remember what the website was called. Is he on Cameo? I'm just kidding. Oh, that's mean. Um, everybody's putting their Christmas deals on!
00:54:49
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Oh, no, i would I would be interested to read the book, though, because it is hard. Like, I found that doing my stuff, too. And that's and then listening to the podcast is doing that. You're trying to take stuff with a grain of salt and like with an open mind, but also a skeptical eye. And then like you can't you're like just just one source isn't obviously enough research. And like it's hard sometimes these days you're trying look at everything.
00:55:15
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Yeah, with the critical eye. And then you're just like, I don't know. Dismiss. Like, it's it's easy to dismiss it. That's for sure. Yeah, there's like all these um a little like, don't know if they're interview things.
00:55:31
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ah That's on the premonitionman.com. um They have crazy thumbnails. It just looks like him sitting in front of a webcam. And all of these.
00:55:43
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But... My guy, my dude. Yeah. Uh... Is it also a song? Premonition Man by Ty John Charlie.
00:55:56
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Lyric video. Oh, the website. I forgot about this. The website also claims he's in contact with MI5.
00:56:05
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Oh, and he's an old British gent, is he? He's got these glasses. Yeah. Alright.
00:56:12
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Uh... Oh, he was also on Stan Lee's Superhumans Season 1! According to this picture. Rip Stan Lee.
00:56:24
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Yeah.
00:56:27
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Oh, right. I guess if he was 35 and 86... He's old. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Never heard of him. Yeah, I hadn't either. i'll shoot. Now I can't find...
00:56:43
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that little thing that said where you can hire him. But yeah, there was like a thing that was like, it's for a small fee. And was like, oh yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:56:56
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Well, his book is $24.27. $24.27. Four stars out 19 reviews on Amazon.ca. didn't know people reviewed books on Amazon?
00:57:09
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<unk> know people reviewed books on there on amazon yeah You can buy books on Amazon. i read my... i They have like reviews for like Kindle books, I guess, too.
00:57:24
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But... Yeah.
00:57:28
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Damn. We need a book talk segment. Next time. Next time. ah Yeah. I've been going through some of the classics I forgot that I had on. Well, I think my candle is dead. i haven't turned it on in two years, so I'm pretty sure if I tried charging it, it might explode. But it maybe tomorrow. Is that how it works?
00:57:51
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Maybe tomorrow. um But I can read it off my phone still. So i just finished reading ah the Wizard of Oz. that was Nice. speaking Feeling the wicked vibes and being like, oh yeah, I forgot that I bought this or got this for free and now I own it. So guess I could read it.
00:58:10
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That sounds nice. It was pretty short. Only took me like i would a week of little half an hour here, half an hour there. Like comfort books. Like I love to like reread the little house books growing up or like roll dolls. Nice. Like a comfort kids. Oh yeah.
00:58:26
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Give me some BFG. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I really gotta pee. Let's wrap up this down. You like that?
00:58:37
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White girl raps? Word. Alright. We will catch up with you guys next time. Part two. Yes. Stay tuned.
00:58:48
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Around. Coming. That will be out around December-ish. The holidays. Yeah. so little sporadic uh holiday schedule we'll just mention quickly here but just keep an eye on the feed and we'll be back yeah just keep it cryptic yeah bye