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Ty & Eric discuss the resetting the minimum working age at Subway, the stereotype of the crusty old ice cream truck operator, trading in your Ozempic for leafy greens, the professional farce of bridge engineering, putting Subway back in the train car, finding your worst self at weddings, and why they keep their distance from playgrounds.
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Transcript
Greetings and Audio Improvements
00:00:50
Ty Fresh
the sweet, sweet, sweet onion sound of that intro jingle, Eric.
00:00:57
Think Fresh
bread heads bread heads bread heads how are we fucking doing today ty are you blessed
00:01:00
Ty Fresh
i hope I hope we're doing a lot better. I'm feeling blessed, and I hope the Breadhead's earbuds feel a bit blessed to actually have some half-decent audio on this
Technical Mishaps and Microphone Woes
00:01:09
Ty Fresh
episode. Well, fingers crossed. We won't know yet. We blundered the last one.
00:01:14
Think Fresh
we did blunder the last one and that's because and i had pints and that and nothing usually works out well when we drink um ask any of my family members.
00:01:26
Ty Fresh
and
00:01:26
Think Fresh
um But we're here. We're remote. thai you're in a park. Are you allowed to be day drinking in the park right now?
00:01:33
Ty Fresh
It's really funny that I can operate all sorts of heavy machinery or engine power devices under the influence, but I cannot operate a microphone. 450 episodes in and we still struggle to switch the toggle to the right setting.
00:01:50
Think Fresh
Well, what? Stupid Yeti Corporation has these like cryptic little hero glyphs to tell you how to use the mic. And those are the different modes. And we have to Google them every single time.
00:02:03
Think Fresh
Like there's just like no logic to them whatsoever. um
00:02:07
Ty Fresh
who
00:02:07
Think Fresh
Like a simple arrow would be enough to tell you which direction the fucking audio should be coming from. You know, have have they thought about putting an arrow?
00:02:13
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's whack as hell. Yeah, why do they need like hieroglyphics like this? It's absurd. And Eric, the weirdest part about it is the official Yeti guide available online doesn't even order the icons in the same order that they show up with on the device.
Recording from the Park and Public Perception
00:02:32
Ty Fresh
So you also have to cross-reference them like it's some sort of ancient script we're trying to make sense of.
00:02:38
Think Fresh
yeah dude it's like in class where it's like i can't afford issue 79 of the textbook i only have 77 uh so everything's a different chapter you know
00:02:48
Ty Fresh
Yeah, and they took out some of the more sensitive words from the previous issue. You know, there's still, just got the, you got the rare slurs.
00:02:58
Think Fresh
I got the British cigarette edition.
00:03:00
Ty Fresh
Exactly. Yes, I am recording from a park today, Eric, which we often do, but I've actually planted my butt on a picnic table. I'm right now on playground side, baby, best seat in the house.
00:03:13
Think Fresh
Careful what you say when your playground's eye-tie. You can end up on a certain list.
Public Spaces: Drinking and Homelessness
00:03:18
Ty Fresh
It's true. And I feel like I very um well might be because I've positioned myself to have a full panoramic view of this playground.
00:03:23
Think Fresh
Okay.
00:03:26
Ty Fresh
I have two laptops and a mic in front of me, so it's very clear I'm up to something. If I was a parent, I'd be uneasy about me.
00:03:34
Think Fresh
yeah dude if i was a parent and i saw you i would be thinking this guy's for sure on the fogal files
00:03:40
Ty Fresh
Oh, for sure. But fortunately enough, there is a child in sight, Eric. I feel like I have this entire park space to myself.
00:03:47
Think Fresh
mm-hmm
00:03:50
Ty Fresh
um and says This is my...
00:03:51
Think Fresh
Legally speaking, that won't hold up, unfortunately. It's like, you know I mean? It's like, officer, it's like, school's not in today. i thought I could speed in the school zone, but sometimes you can't do that, Ty. You gotta abide by the posted signs.
00:04:05
Ty Fresh
Well, if I set up a ah tent encampment here, as some do in parks, perhaps I can claim squatter's rights.
00:04:13
Think Fresh
Yeah, what's going on with um the carny camps, Ty? I thought we were eliminating those. We kind of brought them back. um Not to get too political in pod, but like, why do we have, ah you know, the homeless kind of staking claim of our downtown Eastside?
00:04:22
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:04:30
Think Fresh
What's going on with that?
00:04:32
Ty Fresh
Well, I just think that pop a squat law is so subjective, you know? You can pop a squat anywhere and claim, like, I think we need better legislation around what that even means so that we can decide whether where it's cool and where it's not cool to set up camp, you know?
00:04:37
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:04:50
Ty Fresh
Like if we send all of the unhoused people to a provincial park with nice fire pits that are in like well-groomed sites, that's suddenly totally chill.
00:04:50
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:05:01
Ty Fresh
But as soon as they do it, like buy a playground, everyone's got a problem.
00:05:05
Think Fresh
Yeah.
Ice Cream Trucks: Nostalgia and Eerie Jingles
00:05:06
Think Fresh
I like how you're in your like Jacob Jones mode right now You're just like, how many of these Modellos can I destroy in this public park at 2 p.m. on a Tuesday?
00:05:15
Ty Fresh
but Yeah, dude, you're one friend on a Tuesday afternoon.
00:05:20
Think Fresh
Yeah. Reviewing 18 different cigarettes from Korea.
00:05:24
Ty Fresh
I did pick the picnic bench that was the most discreet. I'm like under an old pine tree where in a corner of the park that I suspect nobody has a reason to visit unless they want to ah address me.
00:05:40
Think Fresh
yeah
00:05:40
Ty Fresh
And I assure you, if that happens, the mic will stay hot.
00:05:45
Think Fresh
ty all that's missing from this equation right now is an ice cream cone what are the chances that a ice cream truck is going to pull up to this little playground that you're hanging out at
00:05:54
Ty Fresh
This time of year, Eric, 100%. You hear that jingle? Like, it's it's more triggering than the Think Fresh intro.
00:06:03
Think Fresh
The thing is, like, the fucking ice cream jingle can be really, like, pleasant and, like, uplifting, you know, if it if it catches you at in a certain mindset.
00:06:15
Think Fresh
But oftentimes, it just makes me think, like, someone's going to get murked. You know I mean? This is kind of like a horror movie, like, soundtrack that's playing.
00:06:20
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:06:23
Think Fresh
It's, like, overly cheerful. It's almost, like, comical. And someone's going to get stabbed to death soon. It's kind of where my mind goes. Is that is that weird or...
00:06:32
Ty Fresh
No, there's something definitely like displeasing about it a little bit. Like it shakes you up a little bit. I think it comes down to how much horn juice is left in the van.
00:06:43
Ty Fresh
If you're getting around the end of the shift and that, that jingler is wheezing, you're going to get like a raspy, a raspy, slowed down pitched one. And it's just, it's, it's going to have an eeriness to it. But I think would if you get that guy, that van fresh out the garage, I bet that's got the like a perfect pitch.
00:07:03
Think Fresh
How do they load up that sound? Like, is it... Is it the alternator that's powering this thing? like how How do they produce that fucking thing? Is there just a speaker mounted to the roof and it's like some guy's like Bluetooth?
00:07:16
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I think it's like tapped into the neural link of the scooper, Eric. And if he becomes fatigued, the horn becomes fatigued.
00:07:21
Think Fresh
Oh.
00:07:24
Think Fresh
Right. Once his wrist gets tired, his arthritic wrist, you know, because it's always an old guy. Like the new generation doesn't want to drive for work. They would have like a bicycle ice cream cart or something.
00:07:38
Ty Fresh
Dude, and well...
00:07:38
Think Fresh
That's the Gen Z version of that.
00:07:40
Ty Fresh
Not even that, like nobody wants to scoop anymore. It's all pre-packaged sandwiches at this point. You know, like they're going to put a scoop in a zi like preset a scoop in a Ziploc bag and give you that.
00:07:46
Think Fresh
That's true. and
00:07:50
Ty Fresh
They're not going to do it by hand like the old days. Like these old guys got like caked up wrists.
00:07:54
Think Fresh
I recently found some.
00:07:57
Ty Fresh
They're crazy looking girthy wrists on these old guys.
00:08:00
Think Fresh
Absolutely Thai. um I've recently found some new appreciation for the ice cream shops in my area because they're like the average age of employment there is like 14.
00:08:14
Think Fresh
And like, i just feel like you enter this like really whimsical, nice environment where it's like some kid on like summer break is like scooping cones for some extra coin, you know what mean? And they're doing a great job. They're putting their all into it. It's their first gig.
00:08:32
Think Fresh
And that joy is something that's missing from the ice cream truck. You know, like, it's kind of like a creepy old guy every time. And i don't know if I want to get the Spongebob cone from this guy that's like, got the eyes melted into each other. And it's like, you know what I'm talking about?
00:08:50
Think Fresh
The tie fell off.
00:08:51
Ty Fresh
Oh, yeah.
00:08:51
Think Fresh
It's like real crusty looking. And I ain't talking crab.
00:08:55
Ty Fresh
Oh, yeah, dude, it's like an AI generated popsicle cartoon. I think the problem here that you've uncovered, though, is the uncanny valley between you're not old enough to drive, but you're old enough to work creates this middle ground, which is like you become the perfect candidate to scoop coins for or scoop cones for cash.
00:08:58
Think Fresh
yeah
00:09:07
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:09:14
Ty Fresh
Cones for coin, as you said it.
00:09:15
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:09:17
Ty Fresh
um But the truck, the truck is, ah you have to you have to be like a senior scooper to like get become a key holder. Mm-hmm.
00:09:27
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Yeah, you've got to hold the car key, you know i mean? You've got to oil that thing down, playboy, every quarter because that engine's running.
00:09:34
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:09:36
Think Fresh
it's It's always idling, too.
00:09:36
Ty Fresh
Yeah. it comes with a lot more liability than just your typical scooper.
00:09:41
Think Fresh
Yeah.
Labor Laws and Family Business Charm
00:09:44
Ty Fresh
And think this is probably the challenge for a lot of businesses, Eric, because like the age of consent for working in a business is only getting younger or older. I'm not really sure. I think it's getting younger. I think like in Texas, they're trying to I was Googling it earlier to see like who, what is the youngest possible person that can work at Subway?
00:09:44
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:10:04
Ty Fresh
And they said it's capped at 14. due to international labor laws globally. So even in like areas with like questionable labor practices, like maybe like a Bangladesh or a Nicaragua, where there are subway locations, it's still like international labor enforcement requires these companies to only hire 14 and um
00:10:27
Think Fresh
I mean, you're not wrong, Tai. I mean, soon as you attach yourself to the subway brand name and logo trademarks, you have to abide by the a global labor laws, right?
00:10:41
Think Fresh
But if it's, um I don't know, Ramit's fucking sandwich corner down the street.
00:10:47
Ty Fresh
Meets meets.
00:10:51
Think Fresh
Damn it. Yeah, once it's once you're getting the double Ramit, you don't need to worry about um whether your son can work who's 10 years old. He can seat guests just fine.
00:11:04
Ty Fresh
I think what happens though is you get these kind of like family business privileges when you're running ah ah like a one-shop franchise and Nona is the chef and Papa is the line line cook.
00:11:17
Think Fresh
Countant.
00:11:18
Ty Fresh
yeah the line and and And little Billy, 10-year-old Billy running the host stand. think there's almost like something cute about that type of child labor. Whereas it's like, oh,
00:11:29
Think Fresh
Very good point. We have a soft spot for child labor when it's in-house, literally.
00:11:34
Ty Fresh
Yeah, exactly. But like if Subway goes any younger, it's like, oh man, let him, let him, let him be a kid. Like, actually I actually feel like Subway,
Innovative Concepts for Subway and Transit Dining
00:11:42
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:11:42
Ty Fresh
even if the international labor laws are 14, Subway should probably cap it at 17, no lower, just to like distance himself from any accident, any more child scandals.
00:11:53
Think Fresh
I mean, why give them even an inch? Pardon in the pun. I would i would say like 25. ah huge
00:11:58
Ty Fresh
Right.
00:11:59
Think Fresh
Let's not cut it close at all. Let's just make sure we're totally above the sneeze guard.
00:12:04
Ty Fresh
Right, right. Everything's above board here. we're If that's the case, dude, then Subway could very easily open up its own like army of ah so subcars, you know food trucks.
00:12:18
Ty Fresh
Because theoretically all artists would be of driving age.
00:12:19
Think Fresh
Oh, I see. Okay.
00:12:24
Ty Fresh
they they could ah They could give ice cream ice cream trucks a run for their money.
00:12:24
Think Fresh
That could be interesting.
00:12:32
Think Fresh
You know what we're missing, Ty?
00:12:32
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:12:33
Think Fresh
And I think this might be why transit sucks across the world. um There's no dining car um so on subway, literally. Like, every, like...
00:12:44
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:12:46
Think Fresh
uh like long distance like train thing like a high-speed rail or like a like the orient express like some grand vacation that you would take there's always like a retro style dining car where you can like go and mingle with the other guests have a dry martini have uh you know some pickled gherkins or something know what i mean
00:12:59
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:13:06
Ty Fresh
Yeah, yeah. You're kind of like living some Wes Anderson fantasy on the in the dining car of the Oriental Express. I get it. I get it.
00:13:15
Think Fresh
Why doesn't, you know, the, I don't know, the millennium line have that. It's like, there could literally be a fast food grab and go style um cafe situated, situated, right? The last a car on that train.
00:13:30
Ty Fresh
Yeah, dude, I don't know why every like municipal transit service doesn't try to sell.
00:13:30
Think Fresh
Thoughts?
00:13:35
Ty Fresh
There's no reason at this point in like these metropolitan centers like our Humble Vancouver or even like the New York subway or the San Francisco BART, like you got like hundreds of thousands of people riding these systems ah daily, weekly, monthly.
00:13:52
Ty Fresh
That's a lot of mouths that could be potentially fed anything you're feeding, you know, but they're just like sleeping on this. Like there should be everywhere I go, there should be someone trying to put something in my mouth.
Capitalism's Impact on Leisure and Weddings
00:14:02
Ty Fresh
And I think that's like peak capitalism, but there's so many places that are slept on where it's like mouth's open. Nothing's going in it right now. I'm at a park right now and there's not a single vendor.
00:14:14
Think Fresh
do the capitalist brain cannot comprehend how there's nowhere i can use apple pay at the park it's crazy
00:14:19
Ty Fresh
I just want to tap, but there's nowhere to put my phone.
00:14:23
Think Fresh
yeah wow people will do anything to like leave the city just for some like solitude but you're the opposite you're just like I need to be next to a square reader.
00:14:36
Ty Fresh
Well, dude, I have a strong stance that if I'm like, how much fun I'm having is directly correlated with how much money I am spending. And if the account is bleeding, I'm having the best day of my life.
00:14:47
Think Fresh
If the account's are bleeding and you're not thinking about it, then it's the best day your life.
00:14:51
Ty Fresh
Yeah, if I'm wincing the whole time, then it's questionable. We'll see how I feel the next day.
00:14:56
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's like when you have that last shot at the bar. like i'm having a great time, but I'm paying for this tomorrow.
00:15:06
Ty Fresh
Oh yeah, dude. the The last shot is the one that always is like, you wake up the next morning and you like, you feel like a bag of dog shit and you think to yourself, yeah, that was the one that did it. This happened to me last weekend. I was at a wedding this weekend and it's like midnight and like, I gotta, I gotta cut myself off here. And someone's like, yo, we should shotgun a beer.
00:15:27
Ty Fresh
was like, hell yeah.
00:15:27
Think Fresh
Hell yeah, dude.
00:15:28
Ty Fresh
So the midnight beer shotgun is what did me in last weekend.
00:15:33
Think Fresh
I think that's important. I think it's important to be your worst self at people's weddings. Like, I think you owe it to the bride and groom to like remove all filter, remove all the inhibitions, just be like a degenerate.
00:15:48
Think Fresh
think that's what they want you to do. That's why there's an open bar. Like put a limit on it. If you don't want me to like throw up on the bride's dress, let's see you know what I mean? Yeah.
00:15:57
Ty Fresh
yeah dude it's the debauchery that makes the stories that we'll tell our grandchildren one day one's
00:16:03
Think Fresh
No one's going to remember. it's like, oh, Ty was so respectful at my wedding. No one's going to ever say that.
00:16:09
Ty Fresh
everyone went home yeah everyone went home early and had a good night's sleep boring who cares
00:16:09
Think Fresh
One, because it won't happen.
00:16:14
Think Fresh
Yeah. Boring. Yeah, Ty got into the the show car and crashed into the lake at my wedding.
00:16:18
Ty Fresh
The history.
00:16:26
Ty Fresh
I think that history, Eric, is always the surprises, right? And that's what makes the story of life so exciting.
Podcast Origins and Food Enjoyment Philosophy
00:16:35
Ty Fresh
um The story of everything.
00:16:37
Ty Fresh
Think about like why we made this podcast in the first place was because the history of Subway was so unexpected. There's so many weird things have happened through the course of just what should be a simple business. If this was Arby's, it wouldn't be a, it wouldn't be a store. There wouldn't be a story here, you know?
00:16:56
Think Fresh
This is why we're a great duo, because you believe that, and I just think sandwich good. So like I like to talk about them.
00:17:03
Ty Fresh
Right. You're like, there's so many meats. There's so many meats to discuss.
00:17:08
Think Fresh
I like talking about cold cuts, and I need to do it on mic twice a week.
00:17:08
Ty Fresh
I don't, and I only have one lifetime and there's a lot of different handhelds to get through.
00:17:18
Think Fresh
Yeah. you ever think about that, Ty? It's like, eventually we're go to have our last sandwich. Yeah.
00:17:22
Ty Fresh
Oh, that's so sad. it We may have already had it because tomorrow isn't promised, Eric.
00:17:28
Think Fresh
That's right. i haven't even had a sandwich this week and I'm feeling it. I'm shaking, dude. I need to have a sandwich so I can put the demons to rest.
00:17:37
Ty Fresh
I need a sandwich so bad. i'm literally shaking. i i don't know, man. I think, what would you want your last sandwich?
00:17:43
Think Fresh
The MSG withdrawal.
00:17:44
Ty Fresh
Have we ever talked about this, your last sandwich? I think we have. I think we haven't talked about prison meals. But um I think it's important, though, with every bite, sandwich or other, just to really appreciate that.
00:17:55
Ty Fresh
And also, don't deny yourself a good meal. Like, I feel like this is kind of a Bourdainism in a way. If you're going to eat a meal, make it a good one because it could be the last meal.
00:18:07
Think Fresh
hmm. I'm a big proponent of like, if you have a bad meal, immediately go get have a good meal after. Like you can fix it.
00:18:13
Ty Fresh
Right, hard pivot, free up a little stomach room.
00:18:14
Think Fresh
you know what mean?
00:18:16
Ty Fresh
you know my way
00:18:17
Think Fresh
hmm. Yeah.
00:18:19
Ty Fresh
you know You know my wiggle trick, right? I'd use a little wiggle trick to make a little more room. if you ah If you stand up and you just like shake your hips back and forth really, really fast for a minute, it actually like, I find it pulls all the food in my bloated stomach down to my intestines and creates a little space on the top to fit a few more bites in.
00:18:24
Think Fresh
God damn it.
00:18:42
Think Fresh
not even lying Ty I was watching my 400 pound life and the woman said exactly that
00:18:47
Ty Fresh
She did not know this is, i have IP on this.
00:18:51
Think Fresh
no dude well it was a variation she's like as soon as I feel full I just sit up straight have a deep breath and I just keep eating i'm like you don't need to do that like maybe if you just stopped you know you wouldn't be on this TV show but you You obviously are you know nowhere near 400 pounds.
00:19:11
Think Fresh
So like how do you do it, Ty? How do you manage to stuff you're stuff your cranium with all this ah gluttony?
00:19:19
Ty Fresh
It's all about what you're stuffing, Eric. And you as you know, they call me the Green Goblin because I be gobbling up them greens.
00:19:27
Think Fresh
God damn
00:19:28
Ty Fresh
And I don't think your 400-pound mistress is having as much much kale as I am, Eric.
00:19:32
Think Fresh
it.
00:19:37
Think Fresh
not Not a chance in hell. The only green thing she's having is a matcha donut.
00:19:45
Ty Fresh
okay but This new wave of putting matcha in junk food is probably awesome for the like the pseudo health core.
00:19:52
Think Fresh
Oh, absolutely. Dude, the way that matcha has such a death grip on like... Japanese culture like it like in in Kyoto there's like a billion fucking soft serve places that just have a green cone outside and you're just like yep I know exactly what I'm getting there
00:20:11
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I feel like they're kind of the early adopters of of matcha, which makes sense. Like they're all about their ceremonial grade green tea as well. Right. And don't don't get me started on um ah what else do they put green tea and there's other stuff, too.
00:20:21
Think Fresh
mm-hmm
00:20:28
Ty Fresh
I think there's like a whole medicinal side of it, too. um So matcha just makes sense. But it's it's interesting that now we're getting them the the the green wave hitting North America.
Trendy Foods: Matcha vs. Shamrock Shake
00:20:43
Ty Fresh
The green wave is
00:20:44
Think Fresh
yeah it's incredibly hard to ignore like we've we obviously all noticed it but it's just like relentless like i just get more and more matcha content on my feed and it's such a weird thing it's like i don't even like
00:20:45
Ty Fresh
viral
00:21:00
Think Fresh
I don't engage with it. It's just like more and more of it just shows up and like I'll be out in the street and now, now that it's like I'm biased, like i'm I'm looking for it. I will see it more often.
00:21:11
Think Fresh
I just see like everyone's carrying an iced matcha latte with some kind of cold foam, you know, like what's going on with that?
00:21:11
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:21:19
Ty Fresh
I don't know, dude. I think everyone's just trying to feel something. But I do think it's peaking because I'm starting to have like the parents, the grandparents, they're starting to talk about it. They want to try it too. we've now It's now been disrud dispersed amongst the general populace.
00:21:35
Ty Fresh
And I think the wave will pass by the winter. And then we'll only ever see matcha again in rare green themed situations. Like maybe McDonald's will do matcha fries with their shamrock shake at St. Paddy's Day.
00:21:49
Think Fresh
Let's go.
00:21:49
Ty Fresh
Or maybe we'll get a St. Paddy's Guinness Matcha collab.
00:21:54
Think Fresh
Man, shout out to McDonald's for never wavering on the green shamrock shake. They were like, we're not making it matcha. It's mint. they They know that mint is the original green flavor and they're not going to switch up on us like that.
00:22:07
Think Fresh
ah I have respect it.
00:22:09
Ty Fresh
I also love that to McDonald's, eating something green is a novelty that should only be done once a year in the form of a milkshake.
00:22:14
Think Fresh
absolutely. yeah absolutely Don't ask about the lettuce, okay? We don't wanna talk about the lettuce.
00:22:21
Ty Fresh
Yeah. No.
00:22:23
Think Fresh
I'm refuse to comment on that.
00:22:25
Ty Fresh
I don't call it lettuce. I call it crunch. Could I get extra crunch in my my Big Mac?
00:22:31
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Some crunchy grass.
00:22:36
Think Fresh
Lovely. So good.
00:22:38
Ty Fresh
That's good stuff, dude.
00:22:38
Think Fresh
Mm-mm-mm.
00:22:40
Ty Fresh
So what what else is happening around here?
Vancouver Infrastructure and Bridge Insights
00:22:43
Ty Fresh
ah did just what Anything in the news? anything Anything happening that we need to know about here?
00:22:48
Think Fresh
Oh, man. Well, it's far too late to ask me that question, Ty.
00:22:50
Ty Fresh
Pretty
00:22:52
Think Fresh
But if we want to take a quick look at the old Reddit, and don't have anything useful on Reddit.
00:22:52
Ty Fresh
Yeah, I know. Did you... just
00:22:58
Think Fresh
It's just stuff I like.
00:23:02
Ty Fresh
Just ah like how to fix your bicycle?
00:23:06
Think Fresh
Oh, dude, did you see the fucking benches they added to the gravel bridge?
00:23:11
Ty Fresh
Oh, yeah, I did. Lame as hell.
00:23:13
Think Fresh
What the fuck is going with that? It looks like such a hazard.
00:23:15
Ty Fresh
Yeah, so we built... They built a bridge for cars to go over and then they put a, like a park bench in the middle of it for cars to run into and any silly, person you have to be a pretty dumb pedestrian to think that's a good place, a good safe place to sit.
00:23:31
Think Fresh
I know it's insane. Uh, it's like smack dab in all the bike lane actually. So, okay. So the Granville bridge dude is like a monstrosity of car infrastructure.
00:23:43
Think Fresh
It's like 17 lanes going from downtown Vancouver into the beautiful neighborhood of Granville. I guess, I don't know.
00:23:52
Ty Fresh
Fairview?
00:23:52
Think Fresh
Granville Island, Fairview.
00:23:53
Ty Fresh
don't know. The suburbs.
00:23:54
Think Fresh
Um, Yeah, and then Gravel Islands where all the weird art trolls live underneath the bridge.
00:24:02
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:24:03
Think Fresh
But anyways.
00:24:03
Ty Fresh
It's got the highest highest concentration of colored hair in Vancouver.
00:24:08
Think Fresh
And tote bags. um So this bridge, they like took out lanes on each side. this is a car We should do a car infrastructure podcast. i'm actually really passionate about this stuff.
00:24:18
Think Fresh
um Took out a few lanes, added bike lanes. And then in the middle of the bike lane... there's like a platform that's painted yellow and there's a bench overlooking the water.
00:24:30
Think Fresh
And it just looks like you would hit that straight on with your bike if you're not paying attention and like do a flip and like injure whoever's sitting there.
00:24:37
Ty Fresh
Oh, a bike or even like just like a white van, like a dude operating like a industrial vehicle who's drinking and driving after a shift is going to clip every single pedestrian just trying to catch a rest on that.
00:24:50
Think Fresh
oh one hundred percent
00:24:52
Ty Fresh
It doesn't make any sense.
00:24:53
Think Fresh
Dude, car people love our bike lanes so much that they love to drive them as well. don't if you noticed that in in this city.
00:24:58
Ty Fresh
Oh, for sure.
00:24:59
Think Fresh
There's so many cars in the bike lane that I can see people like going the wrong way down this highway and just murdering a family of four.
00:25:06
Ty Fresh
No, this is not going to end well. It's not going to end well.
00:25:10
Ty Fresh
may like Call me old-fashioned, but I think bridges made for vehicles should stay for the vehicles. Make a new bridge for the cyclists. like the I think there's like ah i don't know if it's a Canadian or a North American thing, where they just like
00:25:10
Think Fresh
No.
00:25:19
Think Fresh
I like that.
00:25:24
Ty Fresh
don't wanna build any more bridges. There's no interest in building new net new bridges. They'll replace a couple, they'll improve a couple, but they don't wanna build any more. In Europe, they're building bridges all the time. Everywhere I look, there's a new like pedestrian bridge, new a new but cycling bridge.
00:25:38
Ty Fresh
They'll make a bridge that's just for e-scooters, a bridge that's just for trains, bridge that's just for wheelchairs.
00:25:43
Think Fresh
Totally.
00:25:46
Think Fresh
ah Yeah. a Bridge just for bridge enthusiasts.
00:25:50
Ty Fresh
Dude, the bridge enthusiasm over there is world-class.
Playground Usage: Safety and Appropriateness
00:25:54
Think Fresh
It is. And, um, I just don't know if we have the budget here. That's what they say. I don't know. I think our corrupt government is taking a bigger slice than they should. But
00:26:06
Ty Fresh
I'm sure there's plenty of bridge money to go around.
00:26:09
Think Fresh
if you make enough bridges, Ty, then we can just delete all the water, which is pretty cool.
00:26:14
Ty Fresh
That's the long-term, think, vision of most bridge builders is to cover the water completely.
00:26:21
Think Fresh
And you just have like a deep cave where you can swim in. would pretty cool.
00:26:26
Ty Fresh
Dude, I was actually, i I talked to a bridge engineer at a party once and I i was asking him questions about his job because it's like, whoa, cool. There's not that many bridges. So like, tell me about some of the bigger ones you've worked on.
00:26:39
Ty Fresh
assuming that there's a couple around the city. And he said, oh, no, we don't yeah we don't touch the big ones.
00:26:41
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. He's like, no. I worked at Bridges, the restaurant.
00:26:46
Ty Fresh
Nice. Well, I never really thought about it, but when you're driving on a highway or a main road, you never notice how many little tiny creeks or rivers or streams you're the highway is paved over.
00:26:47
Think Fresh
Sorry.
00:27:00
Ty Fresh
Like it's literally covering all bodies of water. And take the like highway governing bodies consider every moment you cross a body of water a bridge. So he's like, I work on those bridges.
00:27:12
Ty Fresh
So he's working on like three foot spans of water that a road is paving over. And he gets to be a bridge engineer by doing that.
00:27:18
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:27:20
Ty Fresh
I think that's bogus.
00:27:20
Think Fresh
That's really cool.
00:27:21
Ty Fresh
I think it's stolen valor from the people that made the Golden Gate and these other iconic bridges. they They're not even the same job.
00:27:26
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Well, how many iconic bridges do we even have in the world? Like, not every loser with one of those, like, metal rings that calls himself an engineer can design one of those, you know i mean?
00:27:38
Think Fresh
That's, like, the cream of the crop.
00:27:38
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:27:40
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:27:41
Ty Fresh
I guess we have the Golden Gate. We got the Lions Gate. We got that really cool one in Portugal. um
00:27:46
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:27:47
Ty Fresh
Maybe there's a few pretty long ones in Norway. Do the ones in the the Miami Keys, Foyote Keys count as as bridges if they lay flat on water?
00:27:56
Think Fresh
I think so.
00:27:57
Ty Fresh
Those ones are pretty cool.
00:27:57
Think Fresh
um What's that one where the tanker hit and then it like collapsed on itself? Did one of your engineer buddies build that one?
00:28:05
Ty Fresh
Probably. actually think the most amount of bridges is found, and I'm just realizing this now based off my location, playgrounds are filled with bridges. They're almost exclusively bridges.
00:28:16
Ty Fresh
So I think that's kind of a funny domain of bridge engineering to work exclusively on structure for play.
00:28:23
Think Fresh
Yeah. Dude. Playgrounds can be reduced down to staircases, bridges, and off-ramps.
00:28:31
Ty Fresh
o Yeah, you're right. It's super simple.
00:28:37
Ty Fresh
Anything else beyond that, like and and net annette a net, a a monkey bar, those are all novelties to distract from the ups and the downs and the bridges.
00:28:37
Think Fresh
did Did you ever, like...
00:28:49
Think Fresh
Nice to haves. Um, anytime I see a rope feature on a playground, I just think of like torn ACL. Like I just can't go near those. i just feel like my legs and I get caught in it. I'm going rip it in half.
00:29:02
Ty Fresh
Total death trap I'd have waited at all costs.
00:29:05
Think Fresh
All adults who should be avoiding touching the playground. you know mean? You can observe like you are doing right now, but as soon as we get the police going down the slide face first, like, i don't know if that's a good look for anybody.
00:29:18
Ty Fresh
No, it's not. Avoid that at all costs. Never play. That's my rule. Never play.
00:29:24
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude. Super gay to be playing.
00:29:28
Ty Fresh
Nobody should, like only children have grounds to play.
00:29:34
Think Fresh
Anyways, Ty, I'm done playing here.
Episode Conclusion
00:29:35
Think Fresh
Let's ah wrap it up. what do you What do you say?
00:29:38
Ty Fresh
we're back to standing on business.
00:29:38
Think Fresh
That sounds good. all right dude. Talk to you later.
00:29:45
Ty Fresh
Ciao.