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Achievable achievements and Star Wars
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole, biking, art, dogs, and a mild Peter Jackson Rant; we talk about games having achievable achievements and Star Wars (big surprise). As always please like, subscribe and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Weather Woes and Fire Gear Discomfort
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Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Giraffe Podcast. I'm Chris. And I'm Ron. And today's podcast is brought to you by the letter W for wave. For wave. Ocean and heat. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And the number 100, because it was 100 yesterday. At one point, the thermometer on the engine read 112. Oh my gosh. Oh. No, I told.
00:01:11
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I told people, I'm like, God, you don't wear fire gear for a living. Because yeah, boy, oh boy. Yeah. I sweat it through three sets of drawers. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. There's not enough powder in the world. No, no, but it's kind of like a weight loss process. Yeah, but that's not the right kind. It was just water weight. Well, you're 60% water. Yeah, but you kind of need that water. A little bit.
Humorous Lawn Care Struggles
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Well, it's like today I cut the grass and, you know, of course,
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originally was supposed to be the colder day. Yeah, it wasn't. But I feel like cutting the grass is the same. It has kind of the same issues like riding a bike because I was looking and there were clouds in the sky. Of course, the clouds avoid the sun the entire time I'm cutting grass. I get on cutting grass, clouds roll in and cover the sun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And does anybody make a
00:02:06
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push more with a bagger that actually works and doesn't get clogged after one pass. If you're using a regular mower, I used a thatching blade and that helped a lot. I've got the mulching blade on it or whatever. It just, I was trying to bag it. So, you know, cause I've got my niece's party tomorrow and I don't want everybody to have, you know, grassy feet. Sure. Try to be a good guy.
00:02:34
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I just don't bag it, I just leave it. And it seems to work, because my backyard grass grows like gangbusters. Oh yeah, yeah, because it means it self-fertilizes. My backyard grass grows like gangbusters, the grass I don't care. I wouldn't give a crap if it was all green concrete. My backyard grass doesn't grow at all. Yeah, but what you want to look like for COVID heal. That's just the way of the world, I guess.
00:03:03
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And I tried the leaf thing where you leave the leaf litter down. That just killed the grass. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you're supposed to like mulch it up. Well, I did. I bulged it up and left it on that area to let it just left me a big brown spot of mulch. Nice. Nice. Maybe I just did it wrong.
Unusual Pet Shop Encounters
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So is now when I bring up the parrots and multiverse or is that later? We could bring up parrots. Parrots. Okay.
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So I was walking through a, my wife and I went to dinner the other day and there was a, there's a pet shop next to the restaurant we went to. Okay. And I remember this vivid memory of when I was a kid. I don't know if this is just a Northern Delaware thing or just a random. There was a mall pet shop in the mall, in like the Christiana mall when I was a kid. Yeah. Not there, no, anymore. I'm fairly certain. Right. But they had a parrot that was just loose.
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in the shop. And I was a kid, I was like, I don't know, eight years old, this parrot like attacked my head. Oh my god, the middle of the mall pet shop. And I'm like, is this something normal? Like, did everybody have this experience? Was there everybody have a pet shop with birds just flying around? It had a like a vividly remember it had this long table.
00:04:25
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And on each end of the table was little perches for the birds. And then in the middle of that table, it had big sides and they were like, I don't know, chinchillas or cats or something in the middle. Chinchillas or cats? I don't know. Same thing. I don't know. Same thing. Something fairy-ish. There was just loose birds. Yeah. So there was a pet shop in Seaford. Camera, what is it? It's probably like Seaford pet shop.
00:04:54
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And they had a parrot that just wandered the store. But that was like a separated store, right? Yeah, it was a separate store. This was in the middle of a mall. Yeah, that's weird. But like their parrot would just like walk around their store. It was weird. Like he would walk on the ground. Oh, that's weird. Yeah. Yeah. Birds are weird. I just had this vivid memory and I was like, fucking birds.
00:05:16
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Well, so what kind of parrot was it? Was it like when there was a gray tach parrot? Is there a government picture of parrots? It's the kind of parrot I think it was. I don't like birds to this day because of that stupid thing. I'm not a big bird person. Why would you want a bird as a pet? And most of the people don't understand that if you get a bird as a pet, you're really getting a pet for your children to take care of after you pass because
00:05:45
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birds live for like 8,000 years. Or a turtle. They don't ever get a turtle. They live forever. Yeah. It's just a bird and you're passing on to somebody else. It's like three generations that have bequeathed the same turtle. My wife and I talk about it all the time. One of my parents is dead. All my grandparents are dead. It's just crap. It just passes down and it just becomes a burden on somebody else.
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I just don't want to have anybody burdened with my crap. None of it's worth anything. I don't have anything precious. Coming here with a dumpster, throw it all away. Except for me. I'll be gone. I don't care. No, but I'm saying what I've said that if I go first, I'm getting stuffed.
00:06:39
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Wow. Nice. And then one of the kids has to take me. Nice. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. That's, that's, that's not gonna scar them. No, I don't know. I mean, I'll, you know, we'll work something out with the, you know, embalmer that, you know, it's, I could be posable. I could be posable. Yeah. Like GI Joe and.
Being Stuffed After Death: A Humorous Take
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Remember the weird butler things people have at their front step? Like you and a tray for their keys? Yes, yes. Dress me up for the different holidays. This is great. Yeah. If you go before me, I'm just going to take care of that for your kids. Good. That was a lie. He was crazy.
00:07:22
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I've got it written in my little envelope at work. Nice. But it's, I mean, it says all the, like Jerry's dad giving us stuff cause he's like, I don't want it anymore. I'm like, I don't want it either. It's more crap. Yeah. I feel like I'm getting to the point where I could literally live in like a beige room with one chair and a bed. That's very minimalistic. I just, I,
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You know, give me a Kindle and a computer and I'm golden. Yeah, man. A bike. I guess I mean, I need a bike. Yeah, you need a bike. Yeah. I remember my wife, she was so disappointed one year. My great grandmother, grandmother, one of them was like, I know you need a mixer or a new mixer. You know, we're going to get you a mixer for Christmas. And it was one of her old mixers that she wrapped up and gave. Nice.
00:08:20
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Now, I mean, that mixer had a lot of history. It made a lot of stuff, but it was still like this is your old mixer. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, you know, I mean, it probably still worked. Oh, yeah, it did. Oh, yeah, it worked great. Yeah. This metal on metal a couple of times, but. Oh, God. Yeah, we have a blender upstairs. That was my grandparents. I mean, the thing still works, but it's like, why do I have this? You got like a pull cord to get it going. Yeah.
00:08:48
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Yeah, I'm trying to have less and less attachment to crap. Yeah. I've told my mother, I said, once you go, I'm just setting house on fire. It's just going to be easier. What if she has some hidden treasure? I don't care. What's in there that's going to be worth it? If you send the dogs in there, they might find it. Yeah, whatever.
Minimalist Living Aspirations
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Yeah, send Atticus in there. Find it. Right.
00:09:16
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Come out with a raccoon. I don't want crap in my house. I think about it because my house is built in the 70s and it's got an attic and it's got this under the step storage space and it's in my attic. Diddly squat.
00:09:42
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You know why? Because if I have to put it in my attic... No, that's not true. The doors to the closets are in my attic so that if I go to sell the house, I have the doors. Yeah. What about Halloween decorations and stuff? Really? Nope. We have a box of Halloween decorations that sits in the shop and I tell her, that's all you're allowed. That's all you're allowed.
00:10:07
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Unless you're willing to schlep up the stairs in the attic to get it. I'm not having it. Because if it goes in your attic, are you really ever using that thing? There's stuff under my stairs that I'm like, I want to get rid of them. I just don't have the gumption to get under the stairs and get them out. But there's stuff that's been under there for years. It's like, I'm not using this. If it's under there for five years and you don't touch it for five years, you don't need it.
00:10:35
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Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's like there's stuff underneath our house that oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's like my mother saved. She's a hoarder. God love her. She gave me like a tote of G.I. Joe's and a tote of like he man and stuff from when I was a kid.
00:10:58
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I'm never going to use that stuff. What are you going to do with that stuff? It's not worth anything because I played with it. It's all plastic crap that we destroyed. Yeah. Some of those GI Joes got strapped to model rocket engines to fly. I don't have any of that stuff from when I was a kid. Good for you. Yeah. I don't want it.
00:11:24
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I can do this. Yeah. Sit down. Sit and look at it wistfully. Right. I mean, I look at my book collection and go, I got to get rid of these books. I have too many books, you know. I got rid of a lot of books a few years ago at a yard sale. And part of it, but then like, there's some days I could read that book, but I'll download it on the Kindle or something. Right. I'll just get on the Kindle.
00:11:49
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Yeah. I just, I don't need crap in my life. Take them on those books. Like when I go, somebody's going to have to schlep boxes and boxes of books somewhere. Yeah. You know, there's probably a couple of them that are worth some amount of money, but nothing to blow your socks off worth anything. Just have a bonfire. I'm a bonfire. You have to write like little notes in the margins of some of them.
00:12:16
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Oh, I'm not that guy. Yeah. But, but like, you know, and somebody distributes them eventually and then somebody's like, this is a wisdom book. It's got, you know, and then you try to assemble them all to see if it makes some note. Right. Yeah. No, I am. I can't write in the books. Yeah. That guy. I can't, even when I was in college, I couldn't write in my books. Really? I hated highlighting books. I just, it bothers me. Yeah. Couldn't do it.
00:12:43
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The problem I always saw with like highlighting and stuff like that, it's like, I was one of those, I would highlight too much, I think. Right. I'd end up like highlighting all but like, and and the other stuff. Right. And then you got a whole page of highlight is like, well, what did I accomplish here? Yeah. Yeah. Pay attention to all of this. Okay.
00:13:03
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That's why I started just taking notes from the book and writing down. I just take notes. That's the easier world. And then it's on your books that ruined your book. Yeah. Well, I mean, in college, you had to take good care of the books because, you know, the college buyback gave you so much money for the books you sold. Oh yeah. So much money.
College Textbook Frustrations
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Yeah. I mean, you spend what, $200 on a book and they give you $5. Yeah.
00:13:29
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When I went back to school to finish my degree, I had to take an economics class and I had to pay $240 for a textbook that was nothing more than a, the professor wrote basically worksheets down and copied them and bound them with a crappy binding. Oh my gosh. So this book cost what, $5? Yeah. And then I got so mad because I told the professor, I'm like,
00:13:57
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These copies are so bad, I can't even read the accesses on your graphs. And it's like, well, everybody shall read them. I'm like, I have 2015 vision and I still can't read them. Sir, I am Eagle Iran. I am Eagle Iran, for God's sakes. What is wrong with you?
00:14:14
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Whatever. I just, that was one class I just did the bare minimum to get through because I was like, I hate this class and I hate you. Yeah. But you have no, they have you under the barrel, man. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's terrible. And cause you couldn't, at least I couldn't when I was in college, it was like, you know, I should go ahead and just get all the books now because if I don't, they'll be sold out or, you know, and then, you know,
00:14:39
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always get to that one class and they're like, yeah, who bought the books? Well, we're not even going to use the book. It's like,
00:14:48
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I will take, I took a English lit class, um, for story and legends back in like two, 98, 99. Okay. And went to, you know, you go to the school bookstore to buy the books and it's like, this isn't showing up in the book store. What's going on and get to class and the guy's like, here you go. I just, I literally photocopied everything you need. Here's, here's just reams of photocopies, go by a folder and put them in like, Oh, you're the best person in the world. But it would have been,
00:15:19
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40 books we had had to buy, you know, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, college books are a racket. It is definitely a racket. And now it's even worse because now it's, you got to buy the book and you got to buy the online companion for the book because they do the homework and the online companion. Yeah. I took an AMP class and I was like, first off, I already know shit, I don't need this.
00:15:45
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How much should I gotta buy? Ridiculous. Yeah, watch my legs. I have a curse a lot today. That's all right. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, it does. It's with age and anger. Right. It's definitely the anger in my life. What's that? I was with the kids. It was last week or something. And we had to stop at a bank. And I send the little thing in the tube. I mean, the kids and I joke around all the time. And they're in the backseat. Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I was like, if you don't shut the hell up, I'm going to beat the hell out of you until they forgot the microphone stays on. And the lady, like the tellers, like got this terrified look and like, it was a joke. It's a joke. I don't hit my kids because the one of them will beat you up. Yeah. Did you ever want to learn a magic trick? Did you ever feel like that's something you should know? What? I mean,
00:16:45
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Make a real one. Make my thumb disappear. Well, like a real magic trick. Yeah. I mean, I remember like as a kid, always get those like magic kits and never get them to do anything. Well, now it's like I listened to some podcasts with some magicians and like always like, oh, it's just going to YouTube and you can watch any. I'll show you how to make any magic trick. And I'm watching these videos and I'm like, maybe I'm too old to learn a magic trick.
00:17:13
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Just can't remember that. I think my brain's reaching capacity. Really? I'm running out of RAM. I need a reboot. I just chip you and then you can. Yeah. I need to download all this crap to a end drive. Oh my gosh. Just yeah, I don't. Yeah. You can imagine then somebody asks you something.
00:17:34
Speaker
Which of these thumb drive stuff? Yeah. Which computer did I put that on? Oh, gosh. Birthplace. Hmm. That's yeah. Yeah. Because those are things that aren't important right now. Right. Oh, gosh. You mentioned like whichever computer you have, like each one had its own little AI. Oh. Yeah. Like, you know, it was your childhood years and this and that. It just acted like that. Yeah. I wouldn't even want to watch a lot of that stuff.
00:18:05
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Right. Like there's a lot of stuff that's repressed for a reason. I don't need to bring that back up. I know. Yeah, that's yeah. I don't need that in my life. I just need to, you know, just purge the whole memory. Purge the memory. That's why we have alcohol. Yeah, I guess that's fair. Yeah. But that only hurts you, the short term memory. That doesn't help your long term storage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You should be able to select. Right. Because there's some things I can remember. It's like,
00:18:34
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Why do I need to remember what the vet's office looked like when I was seven years old, taking our dog to the vet? Why do I need to remember the the the toy box at my childhood dentist? Yeah, like I don't need that information anymore. He's not even a business anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I can't remember what the card catalog and microfiche station and all look like at the library. Oh, yeah.
00:19:04
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, card catalog. Old card catalog. Dewey Decimal. Did you have to learn to Dewey Decimal System in high school? Yes. What a waste of our time. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they're like, oh, this will be around forever. Right. Nope. Nope. Nope. It's probably, you know what, it was somebody like Bill Gates or somebody who, yeah, it was like this Dewey Decimal System,
Is the Dewey Decimal System Obsolete?
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stupid. Right. What? I mean. And they were right. They were right.
00:19:32
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I mean, I remember.
00:19:36
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God, again, it had to be like 97. I took a whole class on, what was it called? University Web or University Spider. But it was like basically the new library system they even use today. It's just basically how web browsers are made. I can't imagine that your kids even know what the Dewey Decimal System is. No. I don't.
00:20:06
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Or would they know even how to use a traditional library? They do know how to use a library because we go to the library right now again. Yeah, but the library is different than it was back then. So evidently in the late 2010s, library shifted away from the Dewey Decimal System, including the book industry standards and communications model, the BISAC. No.
00:20:37
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Oh my gosh. Oh, or now there's the universal decimal classification, a brilliant alternative to the Dewey Decimal System. That's an interesting question. Is the Dewey Decimal System worldwide universal or do different countries have a different library system? I don't know. I don't either. And now I'm terrified to find out.
00:21:06
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Is it like the metric system and we're doing it wrong and everybody else in the world is doing it right? Yeah, maybe, I don't know. Which, by the way, I still stand by the fact that metric temperature is stupid. No, it says it's the world. Dewey is still by far the most used book organization system in the world. More than 200,000 libraries in 135 countries use the system. Yeah, fun fact.
00:21:29
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That's good because then libraries, but librarians have a, you know, secret code worldwide to get information. Yeah. 398.2 is the call number for the fairy tale section for the Dewey decimal system. Okay. I was a library's assistant in high school. That's how you got all the ladies. That's how you got all the ladies. I only did that for one year. Yeah.
00:21:58
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Then I realized I don't want to be a librarian. And you want to talk about people in America who are screwed over by the system. Librarians, by and large, have to have at least a master's degree, if not a doctorate, in library studies to get jobs that pay $33,000 a year. Yeah. And what did they use that degree for? Working in libraries. To interpret the Dewey Decimal System. I mean, yeah, they work in libraries.
00:22:28
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and they are underpaid and I feel pity for them. Yeah. The freshman year, they're taking introduction to Dewey. Do you think they have to memorize it? It's 145.8. Oh, God, I hope not.
00:22:52
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I looked into that at one point, I was like, I could be like a librarian. And first off, it's crazy because if you want to work in like a specialty library, it's even worse. Like they're like, you must have a doctorate and we're going to pay you $26,000 a year. What? That's not commensurate for the work put in beforehand. Yeah. So I can pay off my degree in 723 years. Good. Good. Good system. Yeah.
00:23:24
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Librarians. Yeah. They're always nice people. Yeah. Yeah. They're always willing to help. Yep. I'm still thinking of the librarians in the, uh, what's that? India Jens and the Last Crusade. You're stamping. Looks at it. What the heck?
Libraries as Modern Community Centers
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Yeah.
00:23:42
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I mean, and libraries now are like, they're like, um, almost community centers and more than libraries, which is, yeah, it's a cool repurposing and rebranding. And yeah, I've listened to people talk about how they have to find new ways, the library to be relevant. Yeah. And then you guys, idiot taxpayers shutting one down because, cause they're idiot taxpayers. Right. Yeah. Losing something special when you don't have a community center. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of.
00:24:13
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you see some of these cities and all that are like, Oh, we need to build a better community center. It's like, no, take care of your library. Yeah. We went, uh, when I went to Chicago this year, we, I was like, Oh, well I have to see the Chicago library. It's huge. It's a, the building is
00:24:29
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But the size of Salisbury. I mean, it is eight stories, at least a full city block. Oh my gosh. That's a lot of microfiche. That's a lot of microfiche. But very few of those stories have books on them now.
00:24:46
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It's English for Second Language classes, it's how to do interviews and resume classes, you know, computers to help you do your resume and stuff like that. It's all this stuff to help people succeed. I'm like, we should be paying all the money to all of these people because, good Lord, look at what they're offering. Yeah, exactly.
00:25:07
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Yeah, the gateway to everything. It's free art exhibits. The Chicago Library has some very nice art exhibits you can go walk through and it's free. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, folks, go out and, you know, but it'd be not patronized.
00:25:22
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Yeah, patronize. Yeah, patronize your local library. Yes, support your library. Support it. Yeah. Very least support your library. Yeah. You know, when it comes up to voting, how about we give that librarian a five percent raise? At least. At least. Yeah. You know, the library in Salisbury has a water tank inside it. Inside of it? Yes. Where? There is in the basement. Oh, yeah. There's a submerged tank. Yeah.
00:25:50
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Yeah. Terrifying. You know what? I haven't been in that library in probably 10 years. Oh, wow. It's been, it's been August, about three months since I've been there. Yeah. I mean, we used to go there for calls all the time. Yeah. And we haven't gone in one hour. It's not my district, so I would not go there normally anyway. Yeah. I just feel like we don't go there as much for calls anymore now. Well, we used to be right across the street, so people were like, oh, look, there's a fire department. It's a call. Yeah.
00:26:18
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People used to park right in front of the freaking fire station. Oh, yeah. That was always fun trying to get a ladder truck out. Yeah. Yeah. I'll visit the Newark library as much as I should. Yeah. But also, I'm a weird book nerd who has this obsession with owning the book. Yeah. That's a problem. That's my problem. That's a serious problem.
00:26:45
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They rent out DVDs and all kinds of stuff now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you can get almost everything. You can get e-books from the library. Really? Yeah. I have no idea how that works. Yeah, as I say, I don't understand how that works, but okay. I just know it exists. Yeah, that's cool. So, yeah, support your library, folks. Yeah. Go to your library. I can remember many fun times as a kid, especially in the summer, going to the library. Oh, yeah. Especially what kind of nerd I was.
00:27:15
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Oh, the Choose Your Own Adventure books? Oh, yeah. Every one of them. Every one of them. Yeah. Love to choose your own adventure. Yep. Yeah. Those are such fun books. Did you cheat? Did you keep your finger in the page? Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Man, that's probably my biggest integrity flaw. If I ever comes up on an interview again, I'm like, well, I cheated at Choose Your Own Adventure books as a kid. Gosh.
00:27:44
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And by the kid, I mean like last week. You see a genie in the doorway. Do you talk to the genie or run? Yeah. Turned to page 52. Did you run away? Turned to page 198. Did you ever have the lone wolf ones? Yes. Oh, it was like a game on top of it where you had like a character sheet and stuff. Yes. Yeah, that was cool. I had all of those. Yeah. At one point. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember there were a couple that D&D did that you would like roll dice.
00:28:21
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All of that stuff Yeah The topic one sure yeah topic one All right, so this is a weird Connection okay, I have decided why I liked Dr. Strange and the multiverse of itus, okay
00:28:43
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That's what it's called, right? I got it right. Yeah. My favorite Disney movie of all time is Sword of Stone. Okay.
Magical Connections: Dr. Strange and Disney
00:28:53
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And Doctor Strange and the multi-versus madness is nothing more than a shot for shot remake of the magician's fight in Sword of Stone. You're right. Fricking loved that movie as a kid, especially that sequence where they're turning into different animals. Oh, yeah. You know, one up each other. Yeah. Amazing.
00:29:13
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Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. I love that movie. It is one of my top two Disney movies. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm including Star Wars in that. Yeah, yeah. Silver Age of Disney, I receive what they call that, right? I think. Yeah. The poor squirrel falls in love with him. Oh my God, it's heartbreaking. Yeah. The squirrel falls in love with him. Oh my God. Yeah.
00:29:42
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That's terrible. And the sturgeon that tries to eat them. Oh my gosh, yeah, terrifying. Yeah, terrifying. Yeah. Love that movie. Yeah. That was such a fun movie. Yeah, it was great. I think, and because I was thinking about this, I was thinking about, I have a lifelong love of the Arthurian legend.
00:30:05
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Okay. And it all comes out of that movie. Like, that was the first introduction I had to King Arthur. Yeah. Right? I mean, yeah, you really don't even like he's, he's King Arthur, he's Arthur, and he's gonna be king in that movie. But you don't really get the real story. But it's just like an introduction to it. It's great. Yeah. And it's cool, because it's, if you read all the Arthurian legends, it's kind of its own story. Yeah. Like, which is awesome.
00:30:32
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God, that came out in 63. 63, 1963. Followed very closely, probably by my second favorite Disney movie of all time. Any guesses? Robin Hood. That is correct. Yeah. Love that movie. Yeah, those are definitely like the top two. What year did that movie come out? 73. Wow, 10 years. 10 years later. Yeah.
00:30:59
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that the multiverse madness hit all of that. That love of like a magician's duel for me. Yeah. And I just thought I just, I didn't even think about it. I was watching a movie and then I was like, Oh, now I know why I love this movie. And it's great. And I try to think of like other movies that do that. Old lady squirrel, little girl squirrel, little girl squirrel was played by Ginny Tyler. I don't know. I don't know either, but
00:31:30
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I felt like that was back in the day when just everybody who worked at Disney were like the voices of stuff, right? You got like Fred walking down the hallway to clean things up. Fred, do you want to voice a dog? Okay. Such a good movie. And if you haven't seen it, first off,
00:31:57
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You should definitely go watch it. Your kids have watched those movies? Yeah, some of them. They've definitely seen Sword and Stone, Robin Hood. My daughter just dropped a brick. I can remember as a kid, you would have the weird
00:32:19
Speaker
case for the VHS. Oh yeah. It's like the weird puffy white case. Yeah, like puffy clamshell white plastic case. Yeah. Yeah. And you remember Disney would be like, this is going back in the vault. Yeah. Yeah. The Disney vault that only opened up every 10 years to sell you a new copy of the same thing already. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, those were like the really, I mean, Disney's always had good movies, but like, I guess it's because we were kids and watched them.
00:32:47
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Yeah, Sword in the Stone, Robin Hood, Mary Poppins. I'm not a huge Fantasia fan. Yeah. Kind of the same era. Fantasia freaked me out in a couple spots. You know what's weird? Speaking of Disney. Oh, we're on a side tangent. Yeah.
00:33:09
Speaker
So the movie or the company is called Disney, right? And the famous, the most famous character is quote unquote Mickey Mouse, right? Yeah. Steamboat Willie. Steamboat Willie, sure. But in our lifetime, how much Mickey Mouse did you actually see? Like when we were kids, Mickey Mouse was... He was in Mickey's Christmas Carol. I don't even remember that. So I can tell you what... Yeah, it was good.
00:33:37
Speaker
Sure. I mean, it's not the Muppet's Christmas Carol. Muppet's much better. Yes. But I mean, like, you didn't there was no, there's Fantasia. I remember Fantasia. Yeah. But I always felt like Fantasia was for my parents. Yeah. And it was, I mean, the Sorcerer's Apprentice part of it wasn't like the whole thing. Right. Yeah. And then. Can you think of another Disney product that had Mickey Mouse? Well, there was the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.
00:34:08
Speaker
In our childhood? No. Like the Mickey Mouse Club was before us. Yeah. Right. That was all, I mean, I guess it existed, but we didn't know about it. I'm trying to look. Um, yeah, God, that was afterward. Yeah. Fantasticions was made in 1940. Wow. Really? I always assumed it was in the sixties. Did none of that. I mean, this is also a quick Google. So who knows?
00:34:35
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Uh, yeah, Mickey's w God, once upon a Christmas wasn't till 99 though. So that, yeah, that's out. Yeah. Um, geez, Prince and the pauper was 90. That was now, don't remember that. Wow. Yeah. There's not a lot of.
00:35:01
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Oh my God, that is not Mickey Mouse, that's a weird rat. Like, you know, like Disney's always like fighting. And it's weird because like everybody in America and probably a lot of people across the world, like, they're like Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse, right? Yeah. But what if you really watch it had Mickey Mouse in it? Yeah, that's, yeah, I mean, I typed in Mickey Mouse movies in the 80s and 90s and the top six that they pop up are just Disney movies.
00:35:31
Speaker
It's Roger Rabbit, Little Mermaid, Honey, I Shrimp the Kids, Tron, oh, the Black Cauldron. Oh, Black Cauldron, but I don't think Mickey Mouse was on any of those. No. I mean, Black Cauldron is a good movie. Yeah. Yeah, this is... It's just weird, right? Yeah, that's...
00:35:52
Speaker
I remember DuckTales, so like Donald Duck was peripherally around. Yeah. Darkwing Duck. But when you think about cartoons of art, like cartoon cartoons, you're talking Bugs Bunny, right? You're not talking. In our generation, to me, you're talking Bugs Bunny or the Buppets. Yeah. Well, and I think part of that is because the mouse was on his own separate thing.
00:36:18
Speaker
Right. Well, he was on the Disney channel, which we didn't have. Yeah, we didn't have the Disney channel. We did not eat of the mouse's cheese at that time. We did not eat of the mouse's cheese. But I look at people now who are our age, and I'm like, who are obsessed with Mickey? And I'm like, yeah. But where did you get the obsession? Because it wasn't around. Yeah, if anything, Disney-wise, the fox from Robin Hood or something for me. Right, yeah.
00:36:43
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work from a sort of stone. These are the things that I loved of Disney. But even though I can think of my cousin who was much younger than me, she was the Little Mermaid and Lion King. There's no Mickey Mouse in those things. No, other than like at the beginning, you've got the ears. Sure.
00:37:05
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But Mickey's out of there. No, you know, it's just weird. Like, yeah. I can see like kids now because there's like, there was the whole, was it Mickey Mouse Clubhouse cartoon and all that. Yeah. I remember that when I was working at AI that was on TV. Yeah. Kids. But yeah, for us, I don't remember Mickey Mouse being a thing. No, no, no. Yeah.
Mickey Mouse's Surprising Media Absence
00:37:30
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Like I remember going to Disney World as a kid going, I'm not here to meet the mouse. What are you talking about? I want to see Ward. Where's Ward? Bring him out. Which I don't remember. I don't think that's ever been a thing. There is a sword in the stone at Disney World. Well, I heard that that's a new thing. And apparently if you pull it out, you get to be a special guest for the day. Ooh. Yeah. But I don't think I was there when I was a kid. Yeah.
00:38:00
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And like the Robin Hood, that wasn't anywhere in Disney World back then. No. Dumbo. Dumbo ride. And I hated Dumbo. You mean the movie? Both. Yeah. It's got some catchy songs. I just, I don't know. I didn't like it. Yeah. I mean, the poor elephant is not treated well. No, he's not. And I'm not, that's horrible, but. Yeah.
00:38:28
Speaker
Then there's Bambi. Oh, yeah, that's a rough one. Yeah, that's a rough one. Yeah. So the Fox from Robin Hood walks around this new world. Oh, does he? Yeah. That's cool. I would like to hear that. Yeah. What about the Mayberry? Oh, gosh, the Sheriff. Little John. Little John. This picture has Prince John. Really?
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah. And they have a whole line of clothing at Disney style. Look at that. Yeah. And there's the sheriff. Wow. Yeah. See, I don't think this was there when I went. There's Friar Tuck. What? Yes. Oh my gosh. I want to go back to Disney just to see that.
00:39:27
Speaker
All right, kids, pack your stuff. We're going. Yeah, we're not. No, no, we're not stopping. We're only seeing the Robin Hood characters and we're leaving. According to this, the Robin Hood characters are typically off doing noble deeds in the forest and are rarely seen at Walt Disney World Resort. Oh. All right. You can use the my Disney experience to track them.
00:39:52
Speaker
That sounds creepy. Hunting Robin Hood. Golly day. I do like the Prince John costume. Yeah. The Sheriff costume looks a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, those were the... I don't know. Yeah, I don't understand the obsession with the mouse. Yeah, it just wasn't... It doesn't seem like it was a thing in our... Yeah. I feel like I watched more Donald Duck cartoons. Yeah, totally.
00:40:22
Speaker
Like I can remember Donald Duck as a beekeeper. Uh, I could also remember, well, it was a little past our time, but there was goofy cartoons, right? Yeah. Yeah. And there was the goofy movie. Yeah. That was a little past our time. Yeah. But there was no Mickey Mouse. I don't know. Chip and Dale rescue Rangers. Chip and Dale rescue Rangers. Hell yeah. Baloo in, uh, what's that? Oh gosh. Sky tales. Yes. Or something. What was that? Tail spin.
00:40:52
Speaker
Tailspin. Yes. Yeah, because King Louie was in it even. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the kids and I watched the Chip and Dale Rescue Ranger reboot. I enjoyed it. Well, that's good. So yeah, like Dale is like 3D and Chip is still like a cartoon character. It's cute. Oh, that's interesting. Explain how would they.
00:41:20
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He's like, Oh, you got CG. You went and got the CG surgery or something. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. It's got like a bunch of the old characters and stuff. So yeah, I know. I, you know, I think it's great that Disney's still doing those things. But again, I didn't hear about a Mickey movie, you know, the mouse built. Oh yeah. Yeah.
00:41:45
Speaker
Yeah. And really, have you watched Steamboat Willie? Not that impressive. No. He just, he whistles at the beginning of the movies now. Right. But even for his time, not that impressive. No. I mean, Bugs Bunny is, oh my God, that's a good question. When did Bugs Bunny come out? It's gotta be World War, before World War II, right? Probably.
00:42:14
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Uh, 1943, that was the comic strip. Okay. Um, it's 1940 was his first ever appearance. I'm just thinking about, well, he's like 33, something like that. Uh, 28. Sorry. Yeah. So I guess steamboat Willie was first, but I just thought, yeah, it was not that great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tom and Jerry.
00:42:44
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Oh, Tom. That is 60. Has to be. Has to be. Yeah. When? 1967 was the film. Yeah. Says 1940. Yeah. 1940 to 1968. Yeah. God. And the, um, yeah, some of those are so good.
00:43:11
Speaker
Hanna-Barbera. I mean, anything Hanna-Barbera. Oh, gosh, the Wacky Racers. Wacky Racers are, uh... The Life Olympics. The Life Olympics, yeah. Yeah. Come on. Shoot. Those are great. I wonder who owns that stuff. Hey, Mr. Hanna or Mrs. Barbera. I doubt that. Who owns...? The company went out of business in 2001. Really? Oh, wow. Who owns Warner Brothers?
00:43:42
Speaker
Yeah. Huh. Yeah. We're owners screen gems television until 1966 Warner Brothers discovery now. Hmm. Okay. Are you know, Barbara dead? Well, I should have actual people. Yeah. Sure. The people. Yeah. I mean, get Warner owns Tom and Jerry also. William Hannah died. Doesn't one. Yeah.
00:44:12
Speaker
The best Hanna-Barbera cartoons rank. Scooby-Doo, where are you? The Flintstones. Tom and Jerry. The Jetsons. Yogi Bear. Hong Kong Fui. Super Friends. Hong Kong Fui. Space Ghost. Space Ghost. Shoo. Space Ghost. God, yeah. They were all those weird ones, too. What were they? The Inhumanoids or whatever? Oh, with Gloop? Gloop and Gleep, yeah. Yeah, heck yeah. And the weird Rhino that shot rocks out of its hole.
00:44:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Birdman. Birdman, every Birdman. Oh my gosh. They were in the Herculoids. The Herculoids. There you go. And their ego was a giant ape and Tundra was their rhinoceros. Tundra. Yeah.
00:45:11
Speaker
These are good cartoons. They are. Oh, Blue Falcon with the dog. Dino Mutt. Yeah, Dino Mutt. Yeah. There was a crossover with them and Scooby Doo a couple of times. That was always fun. They were also on Harvey Berman and Tony Law and it was great. Yeah. Gosh. You might even be able to get these on your Zoom. There it is.
00:45:40
Speaker
Yeah. They don't make cartoons like that anymore. It was, uh, by the way, it was George Jetson's birthday the other day. I saw that. Yeah. Like his actual, yeah. It was like what, uh, May, July 31st or something. July 31st, 2022, I think was his actual George's. Yep. So where are our little cars? They go. Wow. Yeah. Wait for him to grow up. Yeah. 30 years.
00:46:06
Speaker
About 30 years. So what was the hole in the Jetsons when he dropped them off at the various places in the intro? He only did was like twist his fingers over their head and they had a pod and then he dropped them. Yeah. I'm assuming the little seats in the vehicle dropped out and it was like his own separate little car. Yeah, but it was just yeah. And to think that far in the future, you know, that high tech and they still relied on sprockets. Sprockets were a big thing.
00:46:33
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It was Sprockets or, it was basically Sprockets or what was the other one? Oh. Oh, Spacely Sprocket competitor. Cogswell Cogs. Cogs and Sprockets.
00:46:54
Speaker
Yeah, there are people listening now going, I have no idea what the heck these two guys are talking about. There is a company called Spacely Sprockets and their website is Spacely Sprockets Incorporated dot com. Ooh. Will they make any size sprocket that you want? Well, looking at their website, they don't make any sprockets. That's false advertisement. Right. They're making like pumps and couplings and stuff. No, no, no, sprockets. No.
00:47:22
Speaker
If they're going to do that, they need to be called spacely sprockets and things, right? There's no sprocket category in there. In their thing, that's that's false information, blanket repairs, especially hose assemblies. Only in space is going downhill. I am. I feel like this has to be a fake website. This is like a lot of work.
00:47:52
Speaker
Mr. Spacely is turning over in his grave to think how Spacely Sprockets has fallen. This has got to be fake. One of the quotes is, Spacely Sprockets source the items required when we could not find them so I could spend time running my facility, quote, FDNY. I am sure that the good men and women of the FDNY use the Spacely Sprockets. This has got to be fake. Yeah.
00:48:22
Speaker
But it's, I mean, it's, they did a good job at it. It's a good fake. Yeah. It's, it's. Can you imagine that? Like somebody goes out to bid something out and they get a bid back from spacely sprockets. He said it's a like, that would be awesome. Come on. Yeah. We should do that. The next time we bid something out at work, I'm going to ask the maintenance officer. Hey man, maybe a check spacely sprockets.
00:48:54
Speaker
Reach out so we get them as a vendor. Oh my gosh. Yes. And I'm sure a certain deputy chief, I've heard that name before. It got to be good. Now I have to start a company called Cogswell Cogs. Yeah. Wait, let me make sure. Well, cause spacely would have to be like 30 now, right? Cause he's older than George Jetson. So yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:49:27
Speaker
Actual. It's a Cogswell dot com. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Cogswell restaurant inventory and management software. Yeah. OK. I mean, Cogswell never seemed like such a jerk. It just Mr. Spacely's the jerk in the whole thing. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty clear.
00:49:56
Speaker
Yeah. Cogswell is like a really, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Provides comprehensive inventory control, recipe management. Hmm. Okay. Sync invoice items from plate IQ and a Cogswell's inventory and recipes. Wow. This, yeah. They're like, hmm. Spacely needs to step it up. Yeah. I mean, this website is like clearly not as fake. You have a blog. Yeah. Who doesn't have a blog?
00:50:22
Speaker
Space it. Do they have any quotes of FDNY? Oh, see, that's a thing. If FDNY hasn't, you know, utilized Cogswell, I don't know if we can trust them. That's true. That's how we can pitch it at work. Why do we go this spacely? FDNY has used them. Look at the quote. Look at the quote. The whole FDNY uses this company.
00:50:51
Speaker
Good Lord. Oh my gosh. Well, are you going to topic two? Sure. We got off on a heck of a tangent there. Yeah. Um, topic two. So I was thinking about it because I saw, I don't know if you saw it come across that, um, I guess Warner and all, well one, they killed the Batgirl movie.
Why Was Batgirl Movie Canceled?
00:51:13
Speaker
Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that. Yeah. So, and they were like done. All they had to do was like the,
00:51:17
Speaker
the After Effects and CG stuff. They spend $90 million on that movie. And they say it will never surface. But yet Marvel or Sony makes Morbius and is like, we're going to make our own Morbius multi cinematic universe or something off it. We're going to put it out again and again and again. People like it. But the whole. Yeah. So DC has that flop before it flopped, I guess, because I read some of the quotes and were like the test audience. It was
00:51:46
Speaker
said it was too bad to redeem itself or something. Holy crap. Yeah, that's pretty bad. So that they didn't want to put any bad. It's like, how do you get that far in the movie and then realize it's bad or not realize it's bad? But on top of that, Warner has said, well, you know, we look at the DC movies as at least a 10 year plan. Should they?
00:52:28
Speaker
tied to anything. That's not going to do well. No. Because of the whole Amber Heard thing. You're right. Yeah. That movie's got too much baggage before it even comes out. Yeah. You've got the Flash movie that's kind of paused indefinitely because Ezra Miller's an idiot. Oh, yeah. What's up with that dude? Yeah. Like he's leading his own cult or something? Yeah, it's weird. Like, now, I don't know what this guy from any... Is he only in the Flash movie? Is that's where he's from? Well, he was in the Justice League movies.
00:52:39
Speaker
What does that mean? 10 years we're going to put out a good movie?
00:52:56
Speaker
Right. But like, that's the only thing he's ever done. Right. Like, I wouldn't know this guy from anything else. Right. I don't think he was in with the Harry Potter crimes at Grindelwald or something. So I wouldn't know. Yeah. Let's see. But yeah, so there's that. I mean, I will say the second Shazam movie looks fun. Oh, it's like the League of Shazams, right? Yeah.
00:53:23
Speaker
But I mean, I like the first one. I think it's just a fun movie. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, should DC just stop? Give up. How much I'm sure they still make out on the deal, right? They're making money. I mean, I would think. But I don't know how you make money on a 90 million dollar movie that you don't kill. Don't you don't even.
00:53:51
Speaker
Amortize like yeah, so that's if you take the whole DC Universe as a whole and they've made a hundred million dollars on a profit Well now you just made ten million dollars profit, right? Yeah, I don't know the Business end of that but doesn't sound smart. Yeah. No, not at all Yeah, that how bad could that movie be that they're willing to just take the 90 million dollar loss, right? I
00:54:18
Speaker
If you put it out now, people are like, well, I got to see it. Yeah, I got to see how bad it is. Right. So you at least get something out of the deal. But yeah, I mean, it's enemy. What's the Black Adam looks interesting.
00:54:34
Speaker
But I mean, it's the rock, so. Right. This is going to be a rock movie. Yeah. Is it even happening like? Yeah. It seems like I've been hearing about that movie for years and not seeing a lot of traction. Oh, no. I mean, there's like some decent trailers and OK. It comes out. When does Black Adam come out? October 21st. OK. Yeah. The other way. I don't know. It's just it seems like they go from this.
00:55:03
Speaker
This terrible decision, a terrible decision with DC movies. Right. I mean, maybe DC just doesn't really translate. DC doesn't translate to movies. Yeah. So I was thinking, I mean, is it, you know, DC should stick to the comics and look, the DC animated stuff is some of the best out there. Well, I think the the reason that stuff is good, though, is because they have time to develop the characters, you know,
00:55:34
Speaker
Here's what I'm going to say about the Wonder Woman movie, which I did not enjoy. Which one? I've only seen the first one. Because I didn't enjoy the first one, I wasn't going to go back to the apple for the second one. You really don't want another apple out of that basket? Yeah, I don't know. That's just not how.
Wonder Woman Movie Critique
00:55:54
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If you don't know who the backstory of Wonder Woman, the movie does a pretty abysmal job of making you care about that character. You never have time to like, Oh, I should give a crap about this character. And it focuses on people that you really don't care about. So she was made with clay, but it just, it didn't seem character never developed. Whereas like, and they focused on the other,
00:56:21
Speaker
guys in the war, not her. Right. Right. But like, I think of I compare that to Iron Man. Yeah, which was not a super popular character. And the first movie literally just sets up Iron Man. Yeah, he's not really fighting superheroes. Yeah. Or supervillains. He's just fighting and what the end of it is fighting another Iron Man. Yeah. You know, and
00:56:44
Speaker
They did such a good job with that movie of just introducing you to this character and letting the character shine. I don't think DC's done that with anybody. And all the Batman movies just rely on you have seen all of the other Batman movies. Right. Feels like. Even the one with the machine guns. Well, I mean, I will say I was glad in The Batman that they didn't show, you know, Tom and Martha getting shot again and the alley and all that, you know,
00:57:15
Speaker
I just feel like the Batman movie could be great and I haven't seen it. So I'm going to say this without knowing. It could be the greatest Batman movie of all time, but I'm just Batman down for a little while. I can see that. There's been in my lifetime. Oh my gosh. So there's the two Keaton ones. Yeah. The George Clooney one. Yeah. Kilmer. The Kilmer one.
00:57:40
Speaker
Wait, was he Clooney in two? Was Clooney in two? Okay, so that's two. Yeah. There's three Christian Bale movies. Yeah. Then there's, I don't know how many Ben Affleck movies. Two. Three. It's just Batman and three of them, right? Batman, Justice League. Or Batman versus Superman in Justice League. Yeah, so just those. Those two. So it's ten.
00:58:03
Speaker
The Batman. Yeah. And then the only ones that mattered were the four animated ones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think DC's problem is they keep like. Oh, we'll hope that this one, you know, takes off like if you look back, Iron Man didn't set the world on fire. Now, the first Thor didn't set the world on fire, but it's they built on things and they
00:58:33
Speaker
had a vision and they started. That's the difference too, is they were willing to put the time into it. Whereas in the Superman movies, like Superman now, Justice League. Yeah. It's like, what? Yeah. What? He's already fighting Batman? What is going on? Yeah. You didn't have time to develop this whole thing. What are you doing? Yeah. I just I just feel like they're trying to copy what Marvel did instead of doing their own thing. Well, and they're trying to copy Marvel now.
00:59:02
Speaker
Right. When they should be trying to emulate what Marvel did, you know. 20 years ago. Yeah, 26 movies ago. Yeah, it's. Yeah, they wanted the Justice League to be like endgame when it was the third movie.
00:59:18
Speaker
Right, and Endgame was the 14th movie? Yes, or something crazy like that. You know, we went through a lot, you know, you were vested in the Endgame characters. I mean, Captain America, his story arc, you were vested, he said.
00:59:34
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lots of growth. You can't just be like, and I get it, Superman's boring as a Boy Scout. You go, I know a little bit of the Justice League, I'm like, yeah, Superman's dead. Should we be sad? What's going on?
00:59:50
Speaker
Do we care? Yeah. Yeah. And that storyline, you know, the Doomsday storyline in the comic books was how many books? Right. And it was after how many years of stories? Right. It wasn't just like, hey, we know who Superman is and he's fighting Doomsday. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the comics also had a fleshed out Doomsday that made sense. Sure. Yeah. But even, you know, the Christian Bale movies, you get three movies of
01:00:20
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development of that character, you know? Yes. Three movies, wiping their rear end with the development of that character.
DC vs. Marvel: Storytelling Showdown
01:00:28
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Hey, at least he doesn't use machine guns. Yeah. So give him that. I will give him that. You know, I just, they, DC just seems like they don't have a plan or if they do, they're just off. Yeah.
01:00:46
Speaker
It's like their TV shows, like the Flash TV show and the Arrow. They were good for the first couple of seasons, but then it was like, they're like, oh, well, you know, this character needs an arc. It's like, no, this is the Flash's show. You can have these little tie-ins, but it's his show. Let's focus on him and his development. And the guy from the show is not Ezra Miller, right? No, it's Grant Gustin. Great. Yeah. I don't know why you didn't desire that guy.
01:01:15
Speaker
That would make sense. Right. But yeah, I think they're trying to do too much with too little. Yeah. And then I look at my characters who I love DC and you're seeing nothing out of. Well, there's this Sandman movie.
01:01:34
Speaker
But that was an image, wasn't it? Before DC bought an image. They did that show and killed it. And then they've done nothing with the Swamp Thing. They have some monster. Do you remember the Swamp Thing movie, the old one with What's His Face? I don't know who was in it, but I remember that movie. I could remember it, yeah.
01:01:57
Speaker
Um, but, but you have to monster DC characters, monsters, huge characters who you are not seeing in, in anything. And I think that's the other problem too, is they're sticking with, like Marvel didn't pick Spider-Man first. Right. There was a reason they picked Iron Man, you know, and Captain America, like Captain America was like, no, but he wasn't the most popular Marvel character at that time. I would, you know, I would argue in our lifetime, it was Spider-Man and X-Men.
01:02:25
Speaker
well above those characters. Yeah. You know, but these things that the other like, well, let's take Spider-Man or Superman and Batman. Well, how about you do like, I don't know, Constantine movie and you put Spider-Man into it somehow. Spider-Man really threw people off. Really screw everybody up. Doctor Fate. Sure.
01:02:50
Speaker
I also think the other thing for DC, and this has always been my problem with DC, I feel like the DC universe has never been fleshed out well. It's very disjointed. Yeah. Whereas Marvel, at least when Stan Lee was alive, had an overarching universe. Yeah. DC feels, oh, like, yeah, Gotham exists and Metropolis exists, but they're really the same city, just we don't really talk about it. Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, not really clearly defined where
01:03:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It just, that's fine. I mean, it works great in the comic book because you're reading, like I'm reading Batman comic book. Yeah. But when you're trying to make a DC universe. Right. Anytime you Superman up against Batman, you got a problem. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Superman is going to win that fight. Yeah. I'm sorry, Batman fans. Enough planning Batman. Except that Superman is smarter than Batman. Sorry. No, he's not.
01:03:53
Speaker
I know you're a Batman fan. I get it. Yeah. But I just feel like DC has lost the plot and I feel bad for DC fans because I think DC fans, at least in my comic book experience, which is limited, it has ended 20 years ago. DC and Marvel was a very rabid difference. Yeah. You read DC comic, except for the Punisher.
01:04:18
Speaker
You read DC Comics because they were darker. Yeah. Right. They were like that gritty noir, you know, film noir feel for comic books. Marvel was much brighter. Even the coloring of the books was brighter and, you know, the costumes were brighter and the characters had much less brooding personalities, if you say. Yeah, they were right.
01:04:41
Speaker
it, you know, everybody in DC has to have their parents killed. It's like a rule. Yeah. Yeah. Can you name a single DC character who has living parents? Don't say Superboy because he's a clone. Yeah, I off the top of my head, I can't think of any. They're just it's the style of DC is dark brooding heroes and
01:05:11
Speaker
anti-heroes uh tim drake's dad still alive the second or the third robin he's not a hero doesn't count i'm sorry there's one robin and his parents died in a trampoline accident or something yeah you know that that's just how it is i mean that's that was dc's to me that's when i think of dc i think yeah yeah dark brooding film like if they wanted to make a
01:05:40
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1930s remake of Casablanca with DC characters, I'd be like, that would be amazing. Yeah. Because it would fit. You couldn't do that with, you know, Spider-Man, but you could do that with DC characters. Yeah. Well, and I think, like you said, the whole tie in is a lot is easier with Marvel because it's they're talking about New York or, you know, places that actually exist. Wolverine's from Canada. Yeah. You know, they can go to Canada and film a Wolverine movie. Yeah.
01:06:08
Speaker
Which are we going to get another Wolverine? Yeah. I keep seeing articles about it. Yeah, we are. But who's going to play Wolverine? Do we need another Wolverine? Do we need another Wolverine? Yes. We do. Well, because now where the X-Men are going to be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Do we need the X-Men in the Marvel Cinematic movies? Yeah, if it's done right, yes. Have the X-Men been done right ever? That's what I'm saying. We have the chance now. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
01:06:38
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Well, and it was hinted at in the latest Miss Marvel. Yeah, the post credit scene, the friend or whatever spoilers. He's talking about like her. He analyzed her blood or something. He was like, yeah, there's like something weird about it, like a mutation. And you hear in the background, the 97 X-Men and it.
01:07:08
Speaker
So yes. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. That happened. I was like, oh, you know, the kids are like, the heck is wrong with you? They're one of the greatest theme songs ever. Yeah. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. Don't go back and try to watch the old ones, though. The animation does not hold up. Well, yeah, that's fair. Yeah. But just the theme song. Oh,
Hopes for Future X-Men Movies
01:07:29
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yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think we've got hope for the X-Men. So I, you know,
01:07:37
Speaker
As long as they don't make Cyclops, The Sissy, and Wolverine, this tall, you know, American. Look, I thought Hugh... Well, first of all, he's Australian. Yeah, but I'm saying he sounded American. But, I mean, I thought Hugh Jackman did a pretty good job as Wolverine. He's definitely the bright spot of those movies. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Especially because some of the scripts were just... They're dog shit. Yeah. Well, look at what they did to Deadpool.
01:08:08
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But you could, the worst part for me, like the X-Men biggest crime to me is you had total cool stories you could have done and you just screwed them up. First, same thing DC. You can't jump into the Dark Phoenix. No, no, no, no. You have to build up that whole, you can't just be like, oh, she's Dark Phoenix now. Great. Well, and especially because if you look at the actual Phoenix story, it's more than just the X-Men.
01:08:36
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Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. It's the Red Corsair. But Dark Phoenix is literally the apocalypse. She's Armageddon, come to the planet. And you never got to be her... That movie bothers me at so many levels because you never got to see her as Phoenix. I don't think that actress is right for that kind of role. I see Jane Grey as a bubbly
01:09:01
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You know, character who's very personable. And yeah, exactly. That was not. Yeah. It's not Jubilee, Bubbly. No, but so you shoot fireworks for your. God. And where was Jubilee in the movies? Where was Gambit? Where? Yes, where was Gambit? He was in the one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just. Yeah. Yeah. It should have been Wolverine and Jubilation Lee, not Rogue. Yeah. And they're weird rogues.
01:09:31
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Rogue in the comics and all. She had the powers of Ms. Marvel. She had the powers of Ms. She was literally the most powerful mutant. Yes. For God's sakes. Yeah. But I guess if you do that, Captain Marvel doesn't make a real lot of sense because she's, you know, rogue because she got absorbed. No, because she no, it was the guy. It was Marvell that she absorbed the powers from. Right. But if.
01:09:58
Speaker
Yeah. And it was just the MCU. Marvell is Dr. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got problems. Yeah. Yeah. There's some problems, but yeah.
Will John Krasinski Play Reed Richards?
01:10:09
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And we got a multiverse now. It's fine. It's true. You just have the multiverse. I want goddamn Reed Richards with John Kaczynski as Reed Richards. Oh my gosh. He did so well. I know. Five minutes he got. I saw that. I was like, why couldn't we have had this the whole time? Yep. Bring back Reed Richards. Yeah.
01:10:27
Speaker
Well, I mean, we get a Fantastic Four movie next year. Yeah, but he's playing Reed Richards. We don't know yet. Oh, because they said when Krasinski was filming that for multiverse, his contract was not finalized. Oh, so does that mean they were building off it or? Yeah. Yeah. And Emily Blunt was the Invisible Woman. She was great in multiverse. Couldn't see her.
01:10:58
Speaker
Nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. But yeah, I think, oh, and poor, poor Patrick Stewart. They did him wrong. Yeah. Well, you know. Yes. Don't mess with the Scarlet Witch. Yeah. That's a good rule. Let's say in Captain Carter, she was not
01:11:25
Speaker
Yeah, she didn't do very well. Yeah. Well, yeah. But I don't understand how that happens because Captain Carter is just supposed to be Captain America, but a woman. Yeah. So she would have all his powers too. But whatever. Yeah. That's a good scene. Yeah. But yeah, maybe one day DC or maybe the
01:11:49
Speaker
You know, the second Shazam and the Black Adam, that's the start, because those are lesser known and maybe they'll focus on those a little bit and stop trying to do Superman and Batman.
DC's Focus on Lesser-Known Characters
01:11:59
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Well, I think everything is like they're not willing to take the risk of a Thor Ragnarok. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. No, I haven't seen such a. No, it's so good. I've heard it is. I want to go see it. Yeah. It's just there's this weird thing called the plague. Yeah. Yeah.
Thor: Ragnarok's Success
01:12:16
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Ragnarok was such a fun movie.
01:12:19
Speaker
Oh, it's a great movie. Hands down my favorite. I can listen to Korg just talk about stuff. Yeah. That's hands down my favorites of great movie. Devil Bloom is
Actor Praise and Screen Time Desires
01:12:30
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amazing. Oh my gosh, yes. All right. We'll call it a tie. Why did you stop it? We were just talking. You didn't need to kill him. So good. Such a good movie. Yeah. And we never got to see him alongside of
01:12:49
Speaker
What's his name? You played the collector. Oh The guy from Sicario, yeah, but I mean they're in the comics are what brothers something like that. Yeah, so When DC hires us we'll fix these problems. Yeah, exactly. Yeah DC contact us. Yeah. Look we have some ideas. Yeah, we got a lot of characters you could do a whole black canary thing
01:13:17
Speaker
Oh, that could be fun. That'd be great. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't look, Margot Robbie, you're not going to be involved. I'm sorry. No, no. Get her out. Get her out. Yeah. She was fine in Suicide League 2 or Suicide Squad 2. Whatever it was. She was fine. Yeah. That was probably one of the better movies they've made. Yeah. Comparing how much of a dumpster fire the first one was. But who directed it?
01:13:44
Speaker
Well, that's... Exactly. That is a good point. Yeah. Peacekeeper was an okay show. I haven't watched it yet. You'll hate it, because I'm sure it's nothing like the comics. I never read anything about Peacemaker, so... Okay. Yeah, so I'll probably like it.
Wrestlers' Genuine Niceness
01:14:01
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You'll probably like it. Yeah. John Cena's great in it, so... Yeah, he's another one of those that just... He does good. Oh my God.
01:14:09
Speaker
John Cena makes me mad. He makes me mad because he's a genuinely nice person. He genuinely cares about people. He genuinely goes out of his way to help people. What a jerk. And he's super popular and super nice and super humble and super grateful that the fans care about him. What a jerk. Yes.
01:14:35
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to have something wrong with you. All right. Frickin ripped. Yeah. Yeah. Chisel Joel line. Yeah. Maybe he has like horrible flatulence. That's, that's, that's hope he has halitosis. Yeah. Yeah. That's wrong. We don't John Cena. We love you. We don't think. Yeah, exactly. But seriously, stop being such a nice guy. Yeah. Too much. Yeah. That's what's being nice and ripped and hot. That's like,
01:15:04
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it's like, um, the rock Dwayne Johnson. He dressed up as the, uh, crypto or whatever he's in it. And at the DC pets movie that's coming out. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like crypto and ace the bad hound, but he dressed up as crypto.
01:15:25
Speaker
in this giant plush suit. People just interacted. All of a sudden, he took his mask off. He's like, hey, it's actually me. He's hanging out with the fans. What a jerk. Exactly.
01:15:38
Speaker
There's only one thing us nerds have is that jockey assholes are assholes. Yeah, you guys break the rules. The balance is off. What do we got left? Nothing. We got nothing. We're not ripped. I can't do the rocks workout. Yeah, I can't even eat what the rock eat. I would die. Yeah.
01:16:00
Speaker
Yeah. Stop being such nice people. Yeah. Everything you see about those two people are generally, genuinely nice people. Yeah. Yeah. Just care about the fans. It's terrible. Yeah. Yeah. We're joking. You're both beautiful human beings coming out with us. We need more beautiful human beings like you as well. Yes. Seriously. Cali day.
01:16:24
Speaker
Yeah, teach a class guys. Yeah. You know, it's weird that you think like the Rock and John Cena, they both have the same background. Maybe there is something because the fans in WWE are such a big part of that, that they are just, they're used to being close to fans. Maybe. You know, maybe, maybe something to say about that. Yeah. Give them credit. I mean, you know, that's probably why Jesse Ventura was such a good governor.
01:16:56
Speaker
I think Jesse Ventura had some problems. Yeah. The old Nukem at that point. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right, though. I mean, a lot of these wrestlers are just generally nice humans. Yeah, they look at. OK, I can't think of it. Mick Foley. Oh, yeah, Mick Foley, like apparently nicest person in the world. Yeah. Andre the Giant. Yep. Gentle Giant. Yes. Hulk Hogan, I don't know. You know,
01:17:23
Speaker
I don't know about Hulk Hogan. He gets a lot of crap. But I remember as a kid, Hulk Hogan was everything. And he was always nice to people. He always saw them. He cared about the fans. Maybe he's gone a little crazy in his life. He might have a little CTE. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure.
01:17:42
Speaker
But I just think he gets a lot of crap for me. Like he's creepy now. Yeah. When they say like even the undertaker is a nice guy. Sure. Yeah. Of course he is. Yeah. This is, yeah. You're onto something. I think it's because they actually have to interact with their fans. Yeah. You know, they literally have to see their fans every day. That's true. And that teaches them to actually be decent human beings to other humans. Yeah. And I'm sure there's the one offs that, you know, aren't, but for the most part, yeah, they're good people. Yeah.
01:18:13
Speaker
We've cracked the code. Yeah. We're audio John Cena. We know your secret. Yeah. We're just going to get, get jacked and we're going to go do wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. Not really. I'm 42 years old. Exactly. It's a lot of work at my age. It's not going to happen. It's like, I see like, yeah, total non sequitur to this, but like I saw, uh, Chris Hemsworth is like 40.
Actors' Ageless Appearances
01:18:37
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Oh, yeah. I know. Right. Oh, he's older than us.
01:18:41
Speaker
No! Yeah, he's older than us. He's 40... I want to say he's 45. No, he's 38. Is his wife 45? Maybe, I don't know. I think his wife's older than him. He's 38. Okay, maybe his wife's 45. I think his wife's older than us. Gosh, I don't care. He's still... He's... Is that... Yeah. His wife... His wife is 46! Wow!
01:19:10
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, he's 38. I mean, God. Well, Keanu Reeves is 50 or something and he looks... Yeah. Chris Pratt's what, 30? Chris Pratt's 43. Yeah. Paul Rudd's older than us. Well, Paul Rudd's a vampire. He's definitely a vampire. He is definitely sucking the blood of people. I don't know which people. Chris Evans is 41. I hate all you people.
01:19:45
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Not one of them have run into a burning building and saved a burning baby and pulled him out and juggled burning babies as it
Steve Buscemi's Heroism and John Cena Admiration
01:19:51
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came out. Yeah. And you know what? That shows you something because the only actor who has is Steve Buscemi. That's that's a good point. Yeah, that says a lot. Oh, man. Yeah. I'd be the only one now. I'm sure there are others.
01:20:10
Speaker
Got actors out there. Let us know if you've been a firefighter. Right. Got somebody, right? Yeah, there's got to be. Yeah, Steve Buscemi even went back and worked at the pile in 9-11. Yeah, that's, yeah. Genuinely nice person. Son of a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good podcast. Yeah, it was good. Yeah. Be more like John Cena. If you want to step in to talk to us, we're all about it. Yes.
01:20:39
Speaker
be amazing. That would be great. If that was our first real guest, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I don't know. John, I knew you're listening on your Zune. That would be hilarious. He's the one guy on the Zune. He probably has a Zune because he's like, I don't want Glenn to lose his job. Yeah, exactly. He keeps his Zune because he's such a nice guy. He's like, well, Glenn will lose his job. I give up my Zune. Exactly. Damn it.
01:21:08
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