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Episode 47: You Can't Avoid How Shitty I Am
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During this weeks hangout the boys are talking Garrett's first week of DDP Yoga, Progress, NXT & all the usual nonsense!
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Episode Introduction and WWE Signing Announcement
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me, as always, a man who is WWE's newest signee, Derek Alpin.
WWE's Travel Expense Policy Discussion
00:00:11
Speaker
I just signed with World Wrestling Entertainment.
00:00:14
Speaker
They gotta make sure that Ring of Honor or All Elite don't get you, man. They had to get you. I'm high in demand. If I'd had things my way, I would've had you introduce me as the guy who's looking at a bag of Christmas cookies right now. Fuck you. Yeah, that's where we're starting. You're an asshole.
00:00:32
Speaker
Well, you know what? You're an asshole because you signed with the company that you put in timeout. I still don't have a WWE Network subscription even though I work there now.
Independent Contractor Arrangements in WWE
00:00:41
Speaker
I bet they don't give you those free. They're not paying for your cars. They're not paying for your hotels. They're sure as shit ain't paying for your WWE Network subscription.
00:00:49
Speaker
See, I've always wondered how that works when you work for the E. Is that true that they don't pay for your cars and hotels? That stuff's not covered? Yeah, that's what I'd always heard. That's why you always hear about the wrestlers driving together and traveling together and rooming together and stuff.
Podcast Milestones and Celebrations
00:01:06
Speaker
So you as an independent contractor for WWE, you're in charge of booking your own flights, like they hand you the schedule of all their shows and then you have to on your own set up your flights, like get your cars, your hotel. That was always my understanding and it seemed really shitty. That seems horrible.
00:01:28
Speaker
I mean, there could be somebody out there that's like, that's not quite how it goes, Garrett, but you know what? Not a professional don't know things. There's probably another person out there that's like, work a real job, that's not that bad, you can handle that. That's not even the hardest part of that job. But it is probably the biggest part of your job, is just traveling and getting around. It is the biggest part of your, it just seems like with a multi-billion dollar corporation,
00:01:56
Speaker
or at least a billion dollar corporation, if not multi, you would think that they would have people who could do that for their performers. Well, Derek, you should have read into this before you signed the goddamn contract. And you know what?
Derek's DDP Yoga Experience and Sugar Withdrawal
00:02:09
Speaker
You can hit our goddamn music.
00:02:46
Speaker
47 episodes in. Yeah? How's it feel? It feels good. I think we're actually even further than that because there was a while where we didn't really know how we were doing this and we were just shooting out bonus episodes every once in a while. So we're probably at episode 50 or 51, right? I'd say at least 130. I don't think we're that deep in. They'd be sick of us by that point. No one has been listening that long yet.
00:03:13
Speaker
We do need to go back and count and celebrate our 100th episode, right? Do we get a shit about milestones on this show? I mean, I care about milestones. I think if I learned anything from wrestling, it's you celebrate every moment you get. And you milk it. You make a moment out of it. If we have a first, we should celebrate that first. Well, let's talk about first. Let's talk about your first week doing DDP yoga.
00:03:42
Speaker
Derek, how's it feel? I am officially one week without having had sugar. Is that the big part that's really fucking you up? Yes. Yes. The yoga is fine. I feel good from the yoga, but nothing, nothing has made it feel better with the lack of sugar. So you feel like you're putting in work and then you don't even get to reward yourself with anything.
00:04:09
Speaker
I mean, I guess that's part of it is that you just feel better and the reward is that you feel better, but I'm not there yet because it's crazy. I feel like a fucking heroin addict right now. Like yesterday, I went to work for about half the day and I was like, I have to leave. I'm getting out of here. My head hurts so bad and it's so dumb that the thing that made my head hurt is that I wasn't eating cookies. So like you legit left work. Oh, yeah, I didn't. I was at work for like three or four hours yesterday and then went home. Did you tell anybody why?
00:04:39
Speaker
I just said I had a migraine. I think everybody knows that I'm mad about not eating right now. Do your coworkers know what's up? Oh, yeah. I mean, you can't avoid how shitty I am right now, how shitty and humorless I am throughout my day. I mean, when my day got shitty, I used to go grab Pop Tarts from a vending machine and just eat them in secret.
Pop-Tarts and Sweet Breakfast Foods Discussion
00:05:05
Speaker
Fuck. You can't avoid how shitty I am absolutely belongs on a shirt. If this podcast is ever lucky enough to have some official merch, you can't avoid how shitty I am is absolutely gonna be in the first set of shirts that we have. That definitely is my heel motto. Hey, what kind of Pop-Tarts do you usually go for when you get your Pop-Tart break on?
00:05:34
Speaker
Well, out of the vending machine, there's only frosted strawberry. If I'm in a store going for Pop-Tarts, this is a little controversial. People don't like when I say this. You're going to say unfrosted strawberry, aren't you? I am. I am. You're a fucking heel. Yeah, just me and the revival eating those Pop-Tarts.
00:05:57
Speaker
That's fucking horrible, man. I think aesthetically, I think they are very pleasing to the eye because they look like a little bit more like an official pastry. Yeah, you can see the holes. As opposed to just candy. Yeah. They look more like a pie.
00:06:11
Speaker
That said, I remember trying them as a kid and thinking, what the fuck is this shit? Why would I go from the icing covered treat, basically a candy that I'm eating? You know, I had this conversation the other day with somebody. I said, why is breakfast the only meal of the day where you can basically eat something that's like a candy or dessert for the entire meal and you don't do that for lunch or dinner?
Diet Temptations and Family Challenges
00:06:34
Speaker
because you can justify that it's the energy you need to get through the day. Is that what people say? I don't think people say that. I think we've all just universally accepted we can eat candy for breakfast. That's the cop-out? You know what, Derek? Really? I haven't been eating candy. That's true. You haven't been eating a lot of things because DDP would shame the shit out of you if he found out that you were cheating. I do like him less now. The man? Yeah.
00:07:02
Speaker
Tell me about your week. You've told me you've been shitty to deal with and it's been hard. Go into the details. What have you been dealing with on your first week doing DDP yoga? The listeners need to know. Well, dealing with being sore. Dealing with watching the same workout video all week. I get that. I get doing the same one because he's building me up. He wants me to get to a certain point and then he's going to make it harder.
00:07:30
Speaker
It was definitely harder on day one than it is currently I can touch my toes now. That's exciting How many times have you done the dead man? You mean the just the the end of it? Yeah, you're a dead man
00:07:45
Speaker
Well, let's see. How many times did I add arch? Oh, I'm doing cat lift. I'm doing cat arch. I'm doing broken table. I'm doing diamond cutters. I'm doing it, man. I'm, I'm gonna, you know what? I'm hearing too many listeners excited about the idea of me being chopped and it really seems like no one has faith in me on this.
00:08:05
Speaker
You see, a lot of times with our listeners, I always feel like they view you as like our wonderful, beautiful, cute host, and they side with you. And it's warmed the cockles of my heart to see so many listeners are like, yeah, I want to see Garrett get chopped. I'm with you. They would much rather see you get harmed by a pro wrestler than see me go cheer Nick Gage. And that makes me happy.
Listener Reactions to DDP Yoga Diet Challenges
00:08:30
Speaker
Yeah, because I guess pretty much we know Nick Gage probably isn't going to hurt you and whoever chops me is going to make it hurt. Oh, yeah. Like, did you did you see the clip this week of what was it? Sin Cara on a Mexican morning show?
00:08:46
Speaker
Was that, wasn't that like on ESPN or something though? Yeah, there's been a bunch of clips of this going around Twitter where one of the hosts had Sin Cara chop him and Sin Cara did not hold back. And it's just an average Joe. Oh yeah. And I know that like a while later the guy posted a picture on Twitter of just the handprint on his chest. It looked miserable. He kind of took a knee and then covered his eyes, I assume so that you couldn't see him cry.
00:09:16
Speaker
It was like the first time he realized, oh shit, this is kind of real. Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna handle that well if that is the case. And also, shame on you goddamn people for wanting me to get chopped. And also, thank you, Derek, for saying I'm the cute one.
00:09:32
Speaker
I think that people love you as the host of the show. They think you're adorable. They think that you're a likable guy. And they think I'm here to be shitty to you. And they're not wrong. But they got to know where I'm coming from too, which is that you bring a lot of the shit that you deserve. Some of that's on you.
00:09:57
Speaker
You came up with the whole idea for this. You initiated this whole thing by saying that you would have a wrestler chop you if you did your DDP yoga diet unfaithfully, if you did it dirty.
Wrestling Signings and Industry Speculation
00:10:12
Speaker
And I haven't done it yet. Oh, and if you're wondering if my wife is helping out at all with this, Leah is very, very unhelpful currently. Last night, she ordered a pizza from our favorite pizza place and ate it in front of me. Good job, Leah. You know what I ate?
00:10:28
Speaker
Steamed vegetables. Whoo! Did you have some broccoli? Yes. Nice. Fuck you, Derek. It's not funny. I like broccoli, man. It is kind of funny. Let me ask, can you be honest with me for a second? Is Leah the type that if you do break your diet, she'll let me know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's not going to let me get away from getting chopped. Like, she feels like you getting chopped and the chest would be pro wrestling coming back to bite you. Like, that's karma.
00:10:58
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's a fair punishment for if I've cheated, but you know, when I see people like our good buddy Lowell up in Canada saying that he wants to see me get chopped more than he wants to see you cheer against Nick Gage, it hurts my feelings because of how much I love Canada.
00:11:15
Speaker
I, you know what? Let me, let me clarify something. I don't think it's, people want the entertainment value of seeing you getting chopped. And I just don't think people are, I mean, I think people know that Nick Gage gets booed at shows. I don't think me booing Nick Gage is that much of a dangerous wage on my part. However,
00:11:37
Speaker
The video footage, the audio, just the everlasting memory of seeing the host of predetermined pro wrestling hangout having his soul chopped out of his body because he couldn't hold back on the oatmeal raisin cookies. That is quality entertainment that the whole family can enjoy. Well, if people didn't know by now, I am SAWFT soft.
00:12:03
Speaker
The cool part of the thing I'm excited about is if I get a message from your wife, it's almost like the political scandals of the modern age. I question whether or not I'll hear it from you or your wife first. Who?
00:12:21
Speaker
Like who's gonna tell me that you failed to hold up your end of the bargain? Are you gonna come clean immediately and out yourself? Or am I gonna hear it from another party saying, hey, so he doesn't wanna tell you, but he just ate like a whole thing of chips Ahoy.
00:12:37
Speaker
Fuck, I would love it if that happened and you knew somehow without me telling you. If I came on this show and you called me out on it in the middle, but I think I will be honest. I have encountered a lot of junk food since last Tuesday and I haven't eaten any of it. Today, one of my co-workers, who's an amazing baker, brought in these cookies. Didn't fucking eat them, Derek. I didn't eat them.
00:13:06
Speaker
I don't know that, though. The funny thing is, you could be doing stuff at work, and your wife wouldn't know about it, nor would I. Well, I mean, I guess I could send you, because in theory, I should be losing weight. That's true. So I could send you photos of me standing on a scale and show you that it is going down. You could be losing weight, and you could still have one cookie. Wait, so is this like, I'm not allowed anything? Like, am I allowed a cheat day here and there?
00:13:35
Speaker
As far as I understood, you're not allowed to cheat day. DDP says I could eat what I want. I just have to write it in a memo on my phone and if it sucks what I ate, I have to put it in all caps so that I know I did bad. You have to shame yourself.
00:13:51
Speaker
Sorry, you just, same shame yourself made me think of this. When I was working at Warner Brothers, there was a German guy that came up to the counter and I saw he had on a wristband for a music festival that had been in Las Vegas. And one weekend of the festival was pop, the other weekend was metal. And I knew that weekend had just been the metal festival. So I jokingly said to him like, are you going there this weekend for Miley Cyrus or whatever? And he goes, no, I came here for Metallica. I've seen them 37 times.
00:14:22
Speaker
And I said, oh man, I haven't seen Metallica before. And he says, you haven't seen Metallica? Go around the corner and shame yourself. And he was so serious. Was it Alex Wright? It felt like Alex Wright. He actually, he was more the build of an Alex Wright than a Walter. Nice. Wait, Walter's Austrian, isn't he? Yeah.
00:14:48
Speaker
Alex writes German. Yeah. So it can only be Alex Wright. Okay. Shame yourself, Garrett. Do you feel like you're going to be able to do this? Yeah. Are you looking in the mirror and saying, how long does this have to go? Is this a year? I think we said a year. I think that's actually fucking brutal.
00:15:07
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. A year of you not having a single cookie? I don't think that's the rules. I think at a certain point, I think I have to, I thought we had said I needed to drop a certain amount of weight. No, that never came up. We can play the podcast back. Look, if we need to reestablish some stuff, that's one thing. But as far as I understood it, you were going cold turkey, no sugar. How often does wrestling rewrite history? Where they say one thing and then just pretend like it never happened?
00:15:37
Speaker
I mean, that's that's pro wrestling. That is pro wrestling. But I don't want to give you that out. That seems too convenient. Yeah, either way. So when do you get your first cheat day? Well, I wasn't going to allow that for a couple of weeks if I were to do it so that I can let the sugar completely leave my body. So you see, even that's like maybe in a couple of weeks.
00:16:01
Speaker
Maybe I'll give you one cheat day a month. One a month? I will at least make it a fucking pay-per-view day or something so I can have some wings. Sure, yeah. Yeah. Your cheat day can be any wrestling pay-per-view one day a month and you gotta post, you gotta be like The Rock when he posts his epic cheat days and you gotta like lay out the smorgasbord of shit that you're not supposed to have that you're eating.
00:16:27
Speaker
And then, yeah, except I'll post that part that The Rock doesn't post where you're just crying and shit in later because you ate too much. Isn't that you anytime you had dairy? Oh, yeah. I would love to see that, though, The Rock crying like, my poop's too big. It hurts when it comes out. This is why I don't normally do this.
00:16:51
Speaker
Well, I'm glad that you, I know that you're cranky. I know that you're not in a good mood, but you've done your first week of DDP yoga. And as somebody who had a roommate who did DDP yoga and I watched it happen in my living room so frequently, I know it's tough, but like he said, it seems like it gets easier. I think it will. Like even in this one week, it's already gotten easier from the one video that he's having me do over and over again. I think my favorite part in the video though, is there is a running from Stevie Richards.
00:17:22
Speaker
Yeah, he brings a prop in at one point.
00:17:25
Speaker
So that's I thought that was nice. But mostly he's just trying to sell me like DDP is trying to sell me water bottles and and t-shirts and shit as I'm working out. Are you going to get a DDP yoga like tank top to work out in? Well, the new app works in a way that you collect points. Yeah. And I can trade those points in for DDP merch. Are you going to do it? Oh, yeah, that's going to be a trophy, man. You're going to know what you don't even if you're not happy with them right now.
00:17:55
Speaker
Well, I don't think I'm supposed to like him. I think I'm supposed to. If you're sweating, cool. That's my favorite part of all the DDP yoga workouts. He lets you know that if your body is reacting like you're a little bit of a pussy, that's okay.
00:18:08
Speaker
Shame yourself. Can we talk about wrestling? We've been talking about my diet for like two months. Which is related to wrestling. Well, just because DDP is... The way this show works, as long as we can tie it back to wrestling, it counts. So my first cheat day, let's set it for Wrestle Kingdom, which is January 4th.
00:18:32
Speaker
Your first cheat day will be January 4th. As I stay awake and eat a whole bunch of junk food at like 2 a.m. Go buy a whole pumpkin pie and eat that sumbitch by yourself. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna miss the whole pumpkin pie season. See? I'm in your corner. I think you can do it. I don't want you to.
00:18:56
Speaker
I mean, I mean I want you to, but I also would love to see the repercussions of you get it. I made somebody to choppy at the end of the yoga thing anyway. Well, you know who that isn't going to be. It's not going to be PCO. Well, that's because PCO just signed with ring of
ROH Strategy and Indie Talent Signings
00:19:15
Speaker
honor.
00:19:15
Speaker
Yeah, there are so many signings happening right now, and it's fucking crazy. Like, I feel like we're in the middle of watching our version of the West Wing. Like, we're watching wrestling politics unfold before our very eyes. Is the signing of PCOs supposed to lessen the blow of losing Cody and potentially, potentially the Young Bucks here?
00:19:38
Speaker
No, I think this is just them struggling and having to get anyone. And not to say that PCO isn't a get, because I know he was one of the biggest guys on the Indies right now. And for him to be able to get signed to a wrestling promotion at his age, that's a fucking accomplishment. Well, it's amazing because I think 20 years ago he was irrelevant.
00:20:00
Speaker
It's true. This is the most relevant. He's I mean, I don't want to I don't want to say that. I don't know if like regionally he was very, very popular. But I mean, until Janela's spring break last year. I he was nothing. Right. I'm just saying no, no disrespect. I'm just saying that 20 years ago was 1998. It was the midst of the attitude era. Who was talking about Pierre Karl Ole?
00:20:23
Speaker
Nobody. Nobody. And who even at that time thinking he's going to be signed to Ring of Honor in his fifties. Right. It's it's bonkers. But go ahead. Who would you put PCO up against first because I already see that he's pulling out of ND dates.
00:20:41
Speaker
He actually just canceled. He had a show coming up at bar wrestling in L.A. and it was going to be Willie Mack versus PCO and Brian Cage. I just want to see him and beer city bruiser go at it. God damn it. Actually if you could. Why is that going to God damn it. Do you want it to. No I don't want it. But that is where you start with him.
00:21:02
Speaker
See, I know what a book. But when you look at guys like Bully Ray, Silas Young, who is still in his 30s but looks like he's the same age as PCO, and PCO, you could just have this division of wrestlers that look like men. Ugly big dudes. That's not nice to say. Well, that's pro wrestling for you.
00:21:27
Speaker
And then also, I bet, oh man, Brody King signed to ROH as well. I saw that. The second I saw that, all I could think was, I bet there was a moment in his mind where he's like, PCO's gonna drop me forever. So you don't think these signings are at all in relation to what we've been talking about with all Elite Wrestling or anything? I think it is.
00:21:49
Speaker
Especially because also this week, what was it, Trevor Lee, Samuel Shaw, ACH, and Jonah Rock, all signed WWE supposedly.
00:21:59
Speaker
Really? Yes. Samuel Shaw we talked about from the NWA show. I was not super familiar with him prior to that. He was one of the standout guys, so the fact that they have him, good on him. But this is just four more action figures that the elite can't play with. And then I don't know if you saw, did you see when Cody tweeted out this week, just out of curiosity, who are some of the top unsigned indies working right now that you like to see?
00:22:28
Speaker
Yeah, I saw it. I mean, it's like that's clearly something you can read into. But did you see that he was at the Jacksonville Jaguars game the other day? I know. And at this point between that and him asking that question and then I think somebody posted that at one of the ROH events or at a show this over the weekend, somebody asked him about, you know, all elite wrestling. And he said, you'll find out more in January and the news is going to be bigger than you realize. Wow.
00:22:58
Speaker
So to me that, I mean, obviously he still hasn't said anything and we could still be just getting super, super worked with something. But what would be the payoff to getting worked on this? Like what would be, I mean, other than them saying that, I mean, I guess all in two could technically be the first pay-per-view for all elite wrestling. It easily could. And then it's got me wondering though, cause would these guys really want to leave New Japan?
00:23:26
Speaker
See, I don't know. I would love it if they did some sort of work in, because, you know, New Japan was trying to have more of a presence here and they were doing it with Ring of Honor. But what if they did it with these guys instead? Yeah, I don't know. Did you see the other news about WrestleMania weekend? Oh, my God. This has been a source of stress for me all week. Some of that stress get relieved? No.
00:23:54
Speaker
Why? Okay, go ahead and tell them what you're talking about. So they moved the NXT show WrestleMania weekend over to Friday. Do I have that correct? Correct. The days? Yes. So that it's not competing head to head with ROH New Japan. But you know what that means for some of us? Because immediately when I heard that I was like, holy fuck, I'm going to get to go to both. This is going to be an amazing weekend.
00:24:22
Speaker
It isn't something to do with Joey Janela. It's at the exact same time. And this is the thing you're looking for due most that weekend. See, that's what I originally thought. But there's so many people I love at NXT and who knows where they're going to be in April. I mean, by that point, Matt Riddle could be the main event. The crazy thing about NXT is that if they keep signing all these people that we some of them we just talked about,
00:24:48
Speaker
They're not gonna be able to contain that show in one hour. I know that that's some of the appeal, but good God that that roster is loaded. Yeah, I mean, they have probably the best roster of anyone in pro wrestling right now. Absolutely they do. They have the deepest pockets they can get everybody. And I mean, there are some people that did you read about Silas Young?
00:25:12
Speaker
No, what about Silas Young? So there were rumors that he had already signed with WWE because his contract had run out and he hadn't done anything yet.
Encouraging Listener Interaction and Feedback
00:25:20
Speaker
And I guess he said that he has a friend there that they showed interest in him and he considered it, but he ended up re-signing with Ring of Honor. And for a guy like him, to me, that's the right decision. Is it? What's left for him in Ring of Honor? What the fuck's he gonna do in NXT?
00:25:45
Speaker
I mean, if right now we're Job and Chris Hero left and right, what's Silas Young gonna do over there? Well, Chris Hero had already been there and came back. Very briefly, though. Well, I get it, but I'm just saying that maybe they can come up with something fun for him. I don't know. I just see it as a... If your options are to go to a company where the best of the best are currently there, you're not gonna get as many shots as you will over at Ring of Honor that kind of seems like you're gonna have to do a rebuild.
00:26:17
Speaker
We need to talk about something else that just kind of got lost in the shuffle, post all in. What's the story with Marty Scrull? See, I just assume he's with them still now. Because before, we were just like, fuck you Marty, you're hanging out with Zack Ryder too much. For all we know, Zack Ryder's contract's gonna run out and he goes to Ollie. Well, my question, we were talking about the possibility of Marty Scrull signing with WWE.
00:26:44
Speaker
Is that just off the table? Did he sign a new contract? Like, what's the story there? I don't think we know. I think all of them are kind of in the same position. Are they just quietly letting all their contracts expire so they can do all elite wrestling? I mean, they very well could be. It seems like we're going to find out in January. Because I heard that the Bucks contracts with our Ring of Honor were up in December this month. Yeah.
00:27:07
Speaker
And I feel like they're just going to keep that a secret. That's pretty, pretty interesting. I know. And then you see, did you see where the buck said something about like, we will fight the revival. Mark this tweet or something. Yeah. Remember this tweet and the revival, I think just tweeted back a clock. Because if I were the revival in my contract, we're running out. I mean, what are they doing right now? Jobbing every week. Yeah, it's crazy. There's another case of an NXT staple that got jobbed out on the main roster.
00:27:36
Speaker
because I think they were losing to Lucha House Party every week. I saw that they had a petition going on on Twitter to get Lucha House Party rules banned. Because it's not fair. Do you think Revival would be super over on the indie scene? Oh, I think they would be. They wouldn't be able to keep the name. That's fine, though. I mean, think about how much fun they were to watch on NXT. They made the resurrection. Ooh.
00:28:08
Speaker
Get the ascension over there too. We just get my God. Take all the WWE rejects and just building an indie scene around them. The thing is, I bet you could do that. I bet a lot of those guys are more talented than we even know. Welcome aboard Rhino. Oh my God.
00:28:23
Speaker
So I know you weren't watching Raw and I didn't either but I did look up the highlights. I was looking at some of the clips on YouTube. Yeah. Did you see the Rhino Heath Slater thing. I saw that they had a match against each other. Rhino lost so he's fired. Yeah it looked like that match was just a couple of minutes long thrown together and rhinos gone with no fanfare.
00:28:46
Speaker
Yeah, and I also heard that this Monday's Raw was the lowest-rated Raw in history. That's, uh, yeah, I was looking at the numbers. It was like 2.1-something million. I got that news from WrestleTalk TV.
Listener Request: Taipei Deathmatch Review
00:29:01
Speaker
So... Support WrestleTalk. Give us a subscribe. Those guys. Hey, speaking of give the subscribe.
00:29:09
Speaker
If you give us the five stars on iTunes, rate, review, subscribe, leave that review. We will talk about whatever you want us to talk about. And this week we had a review from Chris. Let me pull up that review here. Chris says...
00:29:27
Speaker
Well, first off, he started his headline, Deathmatch Wrestling, you say? So immediately I'm like, oh, fuck. Are we getting a reputation for being the Deathmatch Wrestling podcast? There was a time period where we said that we aspired to be the Wayne's World of Pro Wrestling podcast. And I stand by that mission statement. That's fine. But I think what people have realized is that you and I, we're not super tough dudes.
00:29:55
Speaker
and that they want to see us get shoved into really uncomfortable situations. And deathmatch wrestling is a place where they can see us and hear us squeal. Oh, my wife last night was working on something on her computer and she could just hear me squealing the whole time I was watching this Taipei deathmatch. But let me read Chris's review. He said, I've been listening to you guys for a while now, almost three months, and your hilarious reviews over some old wrestling and current roster keeps me going at work.
00:30:23
Speaker
Thank you. My match request is from Hardcore Heaven in 1995, where Axel Rotten and his brother, Ian Rotten, ended their furs in a Taipei death match, which was my favorite match on the card. A review on this I would love to hear. Thanks, gents. Chris. What were you doing in 1995, Garrett? Ooh, what grade were we in? Ah, we would have been in third. Third grade. Hmm.
00:30:53
Speaker
Hmm. Well. Yeah.
00:30:59
Speaker
Were we collecting Star Wars action figures at this point? Yeah, I'm sure we were collecting some Star Wars action figures, probably some Spider-Man with the gargoyles around that time. Yeah. Little did I know there was a universe off to the... I was watching wrestling Saturday mornings, I believe. You weren't watching ECW, that's for sure. Oh my god, if I had flipped this on when I was a kid, I think all I would think is, this is fake?
00:31:25
Speaker
It's fake. I feel like I would have just been like, it's all fake blood. It's fake. Has to be. Has to be. Because my parents are telling me it's fake. That's not real glass taped to their fists. Jesus. Yeah. So describe what the Taipei deathmatch is. As far as I can tell a type as far as I can tell it's high pay. First of all, let's take a moment to appreciate the name. Where do you get this is pro wrestling. You take a location on a map and throw that
00:31:53
Speaker
in front of the name of the match, and suddenly it's localized? How does that work? Chicago Street Fight, Taipei Deathmatch. I'm told this was something from the Jean-Claude Van Damme movie Kickboxer.
00:32:09
Speaker
I guess, yeah. I'm not familiar with his work. I know about Rob Van Damme, not Jean-Claude. That's a shitty joke, don't laugh at that. This match is between two blonde brothers who you can't really tell apart wearing the suit. Ian and Axel Rotten. Couple of skanks, these guys.
00:32:31
Speaker
Is the word skank been used on this show yet? No, someone's probably really confused. They're listening to this podcast and they're saying, Derek, when I hear skank, I think slut. Did you just call Ian and Axel Rotten a slut? No. Where we grew up, skank meant kind of a dirty person.
00:32:50
Speaker
These were a couple dirty dudes. I would say the Briscoes qualify as a couple of skanks. If you go through the ECW roster though, I think it's gonna be harder to not find. Absolutely. It's what always terrified me about that roster.
00:33:06
Speaker
That's a lot of dirty, dangerous people over there who are willing to commit crimes for your entertainment. Well, this match, these two guys come out with, it looked like they just went in the back, smashed a whole bunch of Heineken bottles. What kind of, you know it wasn't Heineken's, they weren't smashing those. It was definitely like a PBR, maybe a Bud Heavy. Maybe a Perrier. Yeah, it turns out it's all Perrier bottles. These dudes are like, well I have to be in shape for this.
00:33:35
Speaker
and I like the bubbles. Well, how do you even begin constructing that which you are going to tape to your hand? Who assists you on this? I bet if we saw backstage, it was, I bet they helped each other. Because they are brothers. Yeah, but they're not getting along.
00:33:55
Speaker
Do you think you and I, as a tag team, if we work together, could we beat Craig Mitchell in a Taipei handicap match? Oh fuck. Like just us against him? Yeah, the two of us, hands taped, covered in glass, the two of us against Craig Mitchell. Now he's got it too. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you quickly what's gonna happen. We're gonna lose.
00:34:23
Speaker
I'm gonna tag you as soon as I can. And I'm probably, when you come to tag me, gonna hop off the apron. You're gonna run. I'm not gonna run, I'm just gonna hop off the apron and I'm gonna make it look like it was an accident. Like I lost my footing. You probably shouldn't tell me that. I'm just telling it like it is, man. I don't lie to you.
00:34:44
Speaker
I'm gonna assume that since you're doing DDP Ogana, you have great balance, and I'm gonna know that that's a fuckin' work. You're working me. I slipped, man. I got my foot caught on the apron a little, you know, on the curtain. I don't know what the fuck you call it. I slipped on it. I fell. I fell. I can't help that he is now pelting you in the face with a glass-covered fist.
00:35:06
Speaker
Oh, but did you notice when they came out, they were going around and like, giving fist bumps to the crowd and people- Yeah, letting them test the glass? Yeah, they were just, to prove that it was real. Are you gonna fist bump a guy with glass? It's my favorite, well, my favorite thing is anyone that they let touch their fists, immediately after they touched it, they had that look on their face like, holy shit. Like, up until that moment, they were convinced, it's not really glass, it's a cut up, like, Pepsi bottle. No, it's glass, dude.
00:35:37
Speaker
and they took that shit seriously once they touch it. And almost immediately is the bell rings in this match. I believe Ian was it Ian gets his eye cut open. Yeah. And the referee calls the match. Well I mean that was an angle going on at the time where the referee was being shitty and being a little bit of a pussy. But they got that thing underway quickly after that and they they really went at it. Have you ever watched a guy chop another guy with glass taped to his fist Garrett.
00:36:05
Speaker
Oh my god, and it's not even chest chops. It was like to the shoulder, wasn't it? They kept just chopping backhanded where the glass was across each other's arms. Yeah? To me, that was some of the nastiest shit in this. It's just such a weird... Just a weird way to hit somebody in such an un... Ugh, fuck. It just seems so gross.
00:36:28
Speaker
Is it worthy? Like for this podcast, we watch a lot of pro wrestling. You can go from watching this nice 25 minute epic, you know, acrobatic performance. And then suddenly the next match is something like this. Two dudes just mangling each other with glass taped. It's like a fucking home alone fight.
Cultural Impact of Violent Wrestling Matches
00:36:46
Speaker
I want to make a match themed around home alone where you just take for the holiday season, you take some Christmas ornaments, you smash them up, you glue them to your fucking palm and you smack each other.
00:36:58
Speaker
Well, I mean, it wasn't last year that Macaulay Culkin went to the bar wrestling show and held a paint can and swung it at somebody's face. Yeah, that's my kind of shit. So GCW should have a Christmas show somewhere. Yeah. If they don't have one booked already. Honestly, this seems like more of a deathmatch that would be in line for Hood Slam.
00:37:24
Speaker
Cause then you could get like the wet bandits out there. God damn right you could. Yes. Whole audience needs to happen. Everybody's having a good time. Yeah. But anyways, go back to this Taipei death match. It is fucking brutal. But before, okay, so the ref calls the match. They're in the ring having their little dispute. Since I'm not familiar what was going on in ECW in 1995, a bunch of guys spill out of the back and start fighting each other.
00:37:53
Speaker
Then the police come, which are definitely real police officers that have guns on their hips, and you could tell they went and asked the cops if they would participate, because there was one cop that, as he was supposed to be restraining one of these men, had the biggest fucking smile on his face like he loved being a part of it. It was a highlight of his fucking year, probably.
00:38:14
Speaker
Oh, I have to imagine it was, you know, he gets still... He should have looked tougher, though. He should have put on his cop face, unless he's just truly the nicest cop that ever lived. Well, wasn't it the gangstas and, uh, public enemy that fought out into the, like, the runway there? Yes. Anytime New Jack shows up on my screen, I'm scared for everybody's health. Oh my god, I just watched that fucking video the other day of him stabbing that guy on the Indies.
00:38:41
Speaker
Did you watch the video of him shoving the guy off the scaffolding? Yes! Newjack's scary shit. He's still out there doing it, right? I wouldn't be surprised if Pierre Carraoulet can be out there making his money, making his paper. See, now I'm just a flake. I'm terrified of him now. You should be. It's the way it's supposed to be. All I was thinking is, these cops have guns. Somebody's gonna get fucking shot tonight.
00:39:11
Speaker
Remember that because that does come up later. It comes up where? Oh, we'll talk about it later when we talk about that progress show. Oh, fuck.
00:39:22
Speaker
Yeah, so anyways big tax spot to kind of finish this the end of this match Axel rotten ends up was a back suplex into some thumbtacks followed up by a big splash and Axel rotten goes over Yeah, but really all you're leaving out in the middle is how much these two dudes are just carving each other's heads up We talk all the time about how when you're fighting your buddy you're willing to do more and
00:39:51
Speaker
I mean, it looked like they hit a fucking vein on one of those guys because he had a beautiful crimson mask. That's a lot of blood. It was so much blood. It was so much blood. Honestly, next time I should probably just record the audio of me watching one of these fucking nightmare shows. I get why people enjoy it. But I think our listeners would really enjoy if there was some way we could find some time
00:40:16
Speaker
to do an audio track of us watching some match together that they could play back when they watch it later. Oh my god, yes I agree with that. But just speaking of, I went online to see if I could find footage of the GCW show you and I went to in Chicago. Yeah. Very first clip. I just see Greg stretched across screaming at Dave.
00:40:40
Speaker
And every time a glass tube breaks, all of us are just like wincing and putting our hands up.
Progress Wrestling's Women's Division Spotlight
00:40:47
Speaker
No one else in the crowd is doing this but us. So we really are the biggest pussies at that show. Oh, yeah, we do not look cool. So if you're looking for a good time, just spot your boys in the front of this GCW show in Chicago from a while back, which I guess was also their first show in Chicago. How can our listeners go about finding this show?
00:41:10
Speaker
I searched GCW Chicago on YouTube and was able to find some highlights. I believe the show we went to is called Untouchables. Yes. And trust me, you can't miss us. We look scared. That's amazing. It makes me feel like I need to just buy that pay-per-view and relive it. Maybe for the one year anniversary, we go back and just do an audio commentary over the entire show.
00:41:37
Speaker
is it fucked up that we walked away from that event pretty scarred and with a lot to say and it was amusing. The further away I get from that show, the deathmatch show,
00:41:49
Speaker
the more I wanna go back for another one? Well, conveniently, I know that, you know, I haven't lost this contest yet, but I did see that I'm 112 GCW's back in Chicago, and they just announced that MJF is gonna be there, and all I saw was Nick Gage comment under it, I'll kill this dude. Oh God, MJF versus Nick Gage? It doesn't, it didn't say that, but Nick Gage did say that he would kill him.
00:42:20
Speaker
I damn near saw LaParca kill him a couple months ago. He's hurt right now again. LaParca or MJF? MJF. Yeah, I saw that he was hurt. Do you want to go from an injury to GCW? I don't. Well, you know. You're going to find out if you're healed or not.
00:42:46
Speaker
You're gonna find out if you're ready to go. You might wind up right back on the injury shelf, but hey. But hey, so okay, just to wrap up this hardcore, what was it called? Hardcore 95? Hardcore Heaven 95? Hardcore Heaven 95. Because we have seen a lot of deathmatch wrestling since we've started this podcast. Neither of us had really watched any prior to this. I feel like we're getting a good library buildup of what we've seen. Where does this fall into everything you've had to watch so far?
00:43:16
Speaker
This is pretty bad. That's pretty bloody. I mean, I would rank it near the top, if I was being honest. Just out of curiosity, because we have watched quite a bit, and we've never really discussed this, have you enjoyed any of the ones we've watched? And if so, what so far have you enjoyed the most? Which has been the most enjoyable deathmatch? I haven't really enjoyed any of them that I've watched.
00:43:44
Speaker
Not one fucking bit. I will tell you this. I would rather go to a deathmatch than watch one on my computer. Well, I think that just says something about you. I think it says something about what a psychological mindfuck going to see GCW was. Because now I know that since it's entertaining to everybody else, since everybody likes that story, you and I grew up in the jackass generation.
00:44:11
Speaker
I kind of want to go back to get more content for the show. I want to see you just go by yourself and then watch from the pay per view. I feel like I'm more likely to die if I'm by myself like I'll be an easy target. Not that if anybody had decided to do something to us while we were all there that you would have done anything to help me.
00:44:31
Speaker
Oh, I mean, you hindered me. Like, I was trying to leave and you pulled me back. You tried to run. You're an asshole. At an event that you recommended I go to. That you took me to. Derek, we're moving on.
00:44:46
Speaker
We're moving on. Fair enough. We've spent too much on deathmatch, Chris. Thank you for listening. Thank you for the review. Anyone else out there, please leave us that five star review on iTunes. Tell us what you want us to watch. We will watch anything. And I know coming up, you and I have to watch Marine 6 for this. We're gonna figure out a time to do that. And we also got a request to watch Albino Alligator.
00:45:13
Speaker
They'll have to fill me in on what an albino alligator is because I'm completely out of the loop. It's some horror movie that has Chris Jericho in it that I am not able to find anywhere. So this one's going to be a little more difficult. We'll figure it out.
00:45:25
Speaker
I'm in. I'm in. That's all you had to tell me. Yeah. Yeah. We're in. It was requested. We got to do it. So we went from death match wrestling. Let's talk about something a little bit more. I don't know. Lighthearted. Yeah. Like progress. Like progress. We talked a little progress last episode. We're going to talk some more. What was this from? Monday, November 26th? Let's see. Yeah. Yeah, it was. In the name of this show, this was chapter 79. One big neck with sausage hands.
00:45:56
Speaker
You watched a little bit more of the show than I did, but I did watch a couple of the matches from here. And I got a taste of what the Progress women's roster is like. Holy shit, man. They've got some good stuff going on there. How good is Jenny? She's really fucking awesome. And when you look at her, I don't know why, but there's something that you're just not expecting the ability she has. I know Jenny and Nina Samuels were both really, really good.
00:46:26
Speaker
So yeah, Jenny, the Progress champ, the head of House Couture, it was a tag match, Nina Samuels and Charlie Morgan versus Jenny and Laura De Matteo.
00:46:38
Speaker
This was a hell of a match. They fought out into the crowd. My favorite part of this match is at one point, I think it's a Nina throws Jenny into like a pile of chairs that everyone scatters out of. And she just sticks in there like they're spider webs holding her. Oh my God. Yeah. She throws her like five rows into those things. Oh yeah. But I think it's because she's so, she's so thin and tall.
00:47:04
Speaker
That there was a lot of places for limbs to get locked into. Yeah, it's just there. When I look at her, I just don't expect her to be as good as she is. But then I believe it was on the Mae Young classic when they were talking about some of her influences that her biggest influence was Jushin Thunder Liger.
00:47:21
Speaker
Oh, well that makes sense. And when I find out like, holy shit, this is the wrestling she was growing up on, she immediately became my favorite. Looks mean as hell. Like, she looks like if Posh Spice were a wrestler. Super into it. Question. So Laura Di Matteo. I've only heard of one of these girls before. Laura Di Matteo. The ring gear she was wrestling in reminded me of like Calvin Klein underwear.
00:47:50
Speaker
Did that do something for you? I don't know if it did anything for me, but was I the only one that got the vibe out of that? It didn't look like wrestling tights. It just looked like straight up underwear. Well, I mean, if I were going to be in house couture and had to look fancy, Calvin Klein underwear is the way to go, right? I mean, Marky Mark used to be in those ads with this Calvin Klein underwear pulled out of his jeans. It's classy, but these were just like, you know, gray. They were more fabric-y rather than like tights.
Comedic Wrestling Matches and Humor
00:48:36
Speaker
But seeing her on there now, holy shit, we will probably get Jenny versus Jordan Grace at some point. And just the difference in body types and their styles, that has me really, really excited.
00:48:44
Speaker
I'm gonna give it the thumbs up.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, like I said, this was some of my first exposure to like a big chunk of the Progress women's roster. I was completely impressed. And it seems like we've heard from a couple of people in the last week saying that us talking about Progress Wrestling on here is causing people to sign up because they're interested in it now. So yeah, I've actually this since our last episode, I think I had three different people tell me they signed up for Progress.
00:49:19
Speaker
I think progress would give us a cut. Or at least contact Jim Smalman. Oh, excellent product. Right now, our good friend Queen of the Ring is in England getting ready to attend a progress show this weekend.
00:49:33
Speaker
We haven't given Alex a shout out in a long time. Hey. Hey, Alex. How's it going? You know what we should do? We need to slip into Jim Smallman's DMs and see if we can shoot her a message through him while she's there. I need to slip into Jim Smallman's DMs to see if he can reserve Walter for me for when you screw up this DDP yoga diet. Fuck.
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah. Fuck. I don't want to talk about it. The tables have turned. We've stopped talking about yoga for now. Get the yoga out of your mouth. A couple of weeks ago, it was Nick Gage. This week, it's DDP Yoga. There's another match on this show you wanted me to watch. I checked it out. It's a comedy match. We have the Anti-Fun Police and Team Tremendous. I didn't think you had seen Team Tremendous before. And I thought, after watching, I thought, no, this is Derek's introduction to Team Tremendous.
00:50:26
Speaker
This was wonderful. How much do you love Detective Danbury? I, Deputy Dunn? Oh, Danbury, he's the smaller one on Team Tremendous.
00:50:39
Speaker
Well, Bill Carr looks like a fucking almost Jack mofo, if I may say. But Dan Barry, he's a treat. My favorite spot with him in this whole match, he's got a deputy done in a headlock and his feet are dangling on the ropes. And the ref comes over and yells some stuff to him, telling him he's got to let him go. And he just lets go. And deputy done dives face first into the mat.
00:51:08
Speaker
Like things that you just don't see in wrestling. Does a guy say, oh, I got to break the hold? OK. He breaks the hold. Guy takes a bump. So one of Dan Barry's signature moves that I've seen him do several times live, he pulls a handgun out. Oh, yeah. I actually, at Bola, watched him pull that handgun on PCO. Did PCO acknowledge it? PCO took the gun and put it in his mouth. Oh, my God.
00:51:40
Speaker
So Dan Barry can say that his fingers have been in PCO's mouth. So there's a fun handgun spot in this match. They basically end up in a Mexican standoff. It does end up in a Mexican standoff, but it does end, as we alluded to earlier, somebody gets shot. One of the members of the Progress Ring crew gets shot. There is blood. And yes, it is real. Oh, it's not predetermined in the slightest. This is not comedy. This is legit wrestling.
00:52:10
Speaker
Yeah I really enjoyed this one. This one came right after the break. Do you know what my favorite part of this match was? What's that? The most legit reaction slash selling by the anti-fun police to being slapped across the chest by Bill Carr.
00:52:30
Speaker
and one of them having to walk across the ring back to his own corner to get a hug from Los Federale Santos Jr. Chief Deputy Dunn needed a hug because he got chopped so fucking hard. And the scream, the scream he let out was amazing. These were, this wasn't pro wrestling selling. This was, this was like the guy that Sin Cara smacked.
00:52:55
Speaker
This was that level of legitimacy. That's how I would react if somebody chopped me. He got the hug that the guy on TV wanted. Yeah, the soft music played. It was a nice moment. It's just, I feel like lately there haven't been as many standout comedy matches that I've seen currently. And this was a good one right in the middle of the show. This is a good one, for sure. I love a good comedy match as a break in the middle of a show or before the main event.
Main Event Praise in Progress Wrestling
00:53:24
Speaker
Does Progress Wrestling offer like a free trial for people to check out? I don't think it does. That's a bummer because if you're listening to this podcast and you have some time, go check out Progress. We've said it before, they've got some good stuff going on.
00:53:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's, I think it's only like $7.99. And at this point, I mean, we got two shows from this month, both of which absolutely worth it. Oh my God, Derek. I know you didn't watch this one, but the main event on this show was fucking fantastic. It was David Starr versus Travis Banks.
00:53:58
Speaker
Tell me about it. Well, if you remember from the last progress show, it was David Starr versus Ilya Dragunov. And then it was fucking to me, that was a five star match. That was a great match that ended in a finished because Travis Banks came out and beat the shit out of both of them. Travis Banks, the Kiwi buzzsaw, he had been out with an injury. He's actually the one that dropped the title to Walter. OK.
00:54:23
Speaker
So that's who Walter got the title from. So I have to imagine Travis Banks is trying to shoot back up the ranks to get that title back. But he had this match against David Starr. Travis Banks, when he came out, all I could really think is, this looks like the kind of guy that would look at me and be really disappointed that I don't know how to do simple carpentry.
00:54:48
Speaker
he looks so much like i know i've told you about this guy i had a creative writing teacher in college i don't know if i should say his name or not uh fuck it isn't mike magneson the odds of just getting back to him are slim they're very slim but he was my creative writing teacher he was a fucking maniac and
00:55:10
Speaker
I think he got fired or something, but the last time I had seen him, we were at a bar, we were at the cellar in Carbondale, Illinois, and he saw me and my friend sitting at a table and came over, and he says...
00:55:26
Speaker
He says, how you boys doing? And I was doing good. He goes, I remember I used to sit at this very table and smoke a pack of cigarettes a night. Now you can't smoke in here. And one of our friends said, yeah, well, you know, now instead of cigarettes, it just smells like piss. My teacher leans into us and says, yeah, boys, you just got to remember one thing. Half of its women's walks away, never saw him again.
00:55:54
Speaker
So when I see Travis Banks, I'm looking at him as my college creative writing professor. That's who you think he became. But these two, I mean, he was on like the biking team or something. He was like the coach. No, he's the coach of like a rowing team or I don't know. He was a fit man. It's not impossible.
00:56:10
Speaker
But this match, there was just this crazy, it's a really good hard hitting main event. Like this feels like a main event when you're watching it. And there's just this incredible sequence towards the end of the match where these guys are slapping, kicking, super kicks, clotheslines, suplexes. They're just doing all these moves one after another so fast to each other and they're getting up and no selling.
00:56:35
Speaker
But prior you're saying it was another five star quality match. Yeah. I think these guys know how to main event a show. One of the you said that progress is really good at main event specifically. What do you mean by that? I mean, since you've started watching progress, I know at this point, you know, we've really only watched. What, like four shows, something like that. Yeah. But you've seen how they treat a main event.
00:57:01
Speaker
It feels huge and they go out and crush it every time. And it doesn't have to be for a title. No. Like tonight, this match that I just watched wasn't for a title. These two went out and were slapping each other so much in the chest. There was just a sequence, back and forth chops. Their chests were just completely welted and bloody, which looks like it sucks on David Starr. Like I can only imagine every time he gets slapped just that massive chest hair. Like it looks like fucking chopping Robin Williams.
00:57:32
Speaker
Oh, that's a hairy fucking body, man. I think that every time I see him, every time he gets chopped, he knows how Robin Williams felt just sliding on that latex suit in Mrs. Doubtfire. Ewe. Yeah, it was it was a fucking hell of a match.
Listener Appreciation and Upcoming Events
00:57:51
Speaker
Listen, Garrett, before we get out of here, I don't want to give away too much information, but I do think that you and I should give a preliminary shout out to our friend Lauren, also known as Suplex and Stilettos. You can follow her on Twitter at ZIE, MBA, capital L, Z-M-B-L. Apparently, we're supposed to get a little treat in the mail sometime this week. I love treats.
00:58:17
Speaker
Well, we're getting a little Christmas treat from our friend Suplex and Stilettos, and I can't wait to see what it is. Can't wait to show our listeners what she's sending our way. She's been a pretty loyal listener. She's a fan of the show. Thank you, Lauren. Garrett, any other additional comments this week? Anything you need to prep me for? When are we watching Marine Six? I figure we can probably try and watch that over our Christmas break when we're together.
00:58:46
Speaker
Okay. I mean, it's 90 minutes. I can't imagine it's much more than that.
00:58:50
Speaker
We'll figure out a way to make that happen. Before we do get out of here, we talked last week about Lars Sullivan. Our buddy, Jeffy Wrestling, pointed out, since we hadn't been watching Raw, they had actually been promoting that Lars Sullivan is going to debut soon. That's stupid. So he just had a match against Keith Lee on NXT's TV. And I was like, OK, well, this is going to be where Keith Lee beats Lars Sullivan, sends him packing.
00:59:20
Speaker
Nope. Lars Sullivan beats Keely. It's stupid. He took that pen, but I did see on this week's this, I guess this for you guys now listening, this would have been last week's NXT, but they did announce that there is somebody debuting soon. And I knew he was there and he was working house shows for him, but he hadn't been on the show yet. And that's Donovan Dijak. He's getting ready to make his debut at NXT.
00:59:45
Speaker
Yeah and I see that they all they said because his whole thing is feast your eyes so they let him keep his catchphrase but they did say that his name was Dyjakovic so it seems like maybe that's his full last name I don't know he's going by that now Keith Lee and Donovan Dyjak
01:00:04
Speaker
They were kind of getting booked all over the country doing just kind of fighting each other and their last match against each other ended up being Ebola, not this current one or the one that just happened, but the one before when they were still at the Legion Hall. Holy fuck. I think that at that point, that was maybe like their 10th match they've had together. That thing was a classic.
01:00:27
Speaker
Do you think WWE will let them go? I don't know. I think people are going to like Dijak. And I'm wondering if they didn't put him out there as soon to get him some time talking. Because he was on Ring of Honor for a while. Didn't think much of him there. But then when I started seeing more of his stuff on the Endies, he's just such a tall guy. He's kind of built like a basketball player. Kind of like Chris Hero used to be.
01:00:50
Speaker
Yeah. But when you see this guy fly over the top rope and just him and Keith Lee doing high spots to each other and just slamming, I can't fucking wait. Once again, this just comes back to NXT has so many incredible possibilities that the idea of missing that mania weekend with the current roster they have hurts me a little bit. So there is part of me. Do I sell my Janela tickets?
01:01:15
Speaker
Do I go to NXT? What do I do? Because at this point, I mean, Janela could look at it as a challenge to make it even that much more entertaining. NXT is the place to be, Garrett. You know this. I do know that. And that's who I signed my contract with. I thought you were going to get just like a main roster call up. No NXT debut at the Rumble.
01:01:37
Speaker
I want to go to NXT because I want to be treated fairly. You got to fight your way through Otis and Jizz in the water. Otis and Jizz. God damn. Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch. At least I don't have to deal with Lars Sullivan.
01:01:54
Speaker
Garrett, tell the listeners how they can, uh, hit us up on that social media. At predetermined podcast on Instagram at wrestle hangout on Twitter and Facebook. I am at guard head on Instagram and Twitter. Derek. I'm at Halloween helping on Twitter. Reach out to us. We do polls. We post pictures. We post videos. We interact with you guys. We hear what you have to say. We care about your wrestling opinions. Oh,
01:02:20
Speaker
And I will be in New York, December 14th through the 16th. I'm gonna be going to three shows. I'm gonna be going to Final Battle, which as I bought my plane ticket, Final Battle sold out. I don't have a ticket. So if you got a lead on two tickets, that isn't StubHub.
01:02:37
Speaker
Go ahead and let me know because I'm coming. I'm going to be at that show regardless. But also, I will be at Evolve 117 on Saturday night. Let's see what matches are there that's going to be cool. Cassius Ono versus Darby Allen. And then they also put Roderick Strong in the main event.
01:02:55
Speaker
I saw that. So that's going to be pretty cool. I'm very used to booing the shit out of Roderick Strong. I will continue that Evolve 117. And also I will be right before Evolve 117. Shine is having a show. I've never been to a Shine show that's an all women's promotion. A match I'm very, very excited about there. Shotzi Blackheart versus Penelope Ford. Can't get enough of either of those ladies. So I'm very excited to see them go against each other. So if you're going to be in New York at either of those shows, come say hi. I'll be there with Queen of the Ring.
01:03:26
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Garrett, this has been a fun show. I'm glad to do this thing with you, buddy. I hope that I don't get chopped, and I hope you go enjoy a cookie. I'm going to have some cookies here in like a minute. In one minute, you will be eating cookies. From the moment we end this podcast, within one minute, I'll be munching on a cookie. Well, I don't want to deprive you of that, so hit our goddamn music.