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Big Hero 6 (2014)
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This week for the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris head to San Fransokyo and discuss Big Hero 6, which came out 10 years ago this week.
The first (and so far only) Marvel Comics movie from Disney Animation Studio, Big Hero 6 is very loosely based on a comic of the same name and follows teenage science genius Hiro Hamada (Ryan Potter) as he investigates his brother Tadashi's (Daniel Henney) death in a mysterious fire and the theft of his miraculous "microbot" technology that is in the hands of a supervillain in a yokai mask. Hiro is aided in his quest for justice (and revenge) by Baymax (Scott Adsit), Tadashi's adorable robotic creation designed to be a healthcare provider, and Tadashi's college friends, who all create armor and gadgets based on their science projects. Zach and Chris discuss the differences between the comic and the movie, the dark side of Baymax, Hiro's similarities to Spider-Man, how *spoiler* Professor Callaghan (James Cromwell) quickly decides to start trying to murder his former students, and more.
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Introduction to the Podcast and Topic
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com.
00:00:18
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast podcast week of November 4th, 2024. I'm your host Zach. And I'm your co-host Chris.
Big Hero 6 as Disney's Only Marvel Animation
00:00:27
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Yeah, this week we are heading to San Francisco and talking about Big Hero 6, which came out 10 years ago this week, came out November 7, 2014. So far, the only Disney animation Marvel
Origins of Big Hero 6 and Adaptation Challenges
00:00:40
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movie. um Obviously, you know we've had we've been living with the MCU for a decade or more. or Is it 20 years at this point for the MCU? 2007, maybe? Almost 20 years.
00:00:57
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But yeah, but Disney animation kind of got into the the the action, the Marvel action in 2014 with Big Hero 6, which is extremely, extremely, extremely loosely based on an actual comic book from Marvel that was like a ah I got them trying to make like kind of like a Japanese ah superhero team. Um, I guess, I guess it was is kind of like inspired by Alpha flight too. Like, you know, like Alpha flight is like the Canadian team. They were trying to make it like basically like a Japanese Alpha flight. I think it's what it seemed like. They're just, I guess they're supposed to remember in Alpha flight. Um, but then they get basically got their own mini series. It kind of made sense where they wanted to branch Marvel wanted to branch into like international groups. Yeah. And.
00:01:42
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And like, what, there's like, there's like the Britain group and then there's like a Canadian group. And then there's like, let's just say the Alpha, Alpha is the Canadian group. Yeah. There's like, um, whatever group like black knight and those guys are like, uh, in the, like, yeah. Uh, and then like at the time China had nothing, uh, like South America had nothing. And then I think big hero six was the first, like,
00:02:08
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Let's just grab a bunch of like Asian characters. And once they realize, oh, shit, we only have like three, it's like they had to make more. Yeah, because the comic team was it was Silver Samurai was the like the leader. It definitely it definitely felt more like so like Suicide Squad a little bit where it's like like some of the team are criminals that are released on the condition that they serve. They like help the team.
00:02:30
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It's like it's like Silver Samurai who's you know been like a villain. um ah Gogo is and in in the comic book is a criminal and she's she's like released from prison. um And then like honey lemon is like a secret agent and then hero is Like I think heroes kind of the same as like in the movie like he's this you boy genius um But then Baymax is like a dragon the That is like it's like giant dragon that has like ah heroes like father's like mind waves in planet or something and they're funny like they're funny like the like astral projections of like everyone who died in Hiroshima Nagasaki and
00:03:10
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yeah ah you cannot disneyify that Yeah, you You can't have a Disney anime movie where they're funny, like, the like, like, her like, anger, tormented spirits of like, everyone dying in the nuclear attacks. Yeah, you can't be like, hey, ghosts are real. And oh, by the way, they're from this other like, horrible thing that Disney should not touch.
00:03:33
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So.
Character Rights and Adaptation Impact
00:03:35
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I mean, I get why they did this version. I mean, even in sense of like where they got the original source material, they they looked at like two characters and went, yeah, OK, we can or like three characters, really just hero, honey lemon and go go. And yeah, we can. Yeah, you can work with this. That's enough. It would have been bigger with three, but they're like, no, like we need to boost the numbers. Yeah. and and And silver samurai was like already in like I think that was like they like Disney hadn't bought Fox yet So that was they like silver samurai was a fox, you know, they used him in the Wolverine there before ah One of the other like characters from the the comic book was Sunfire who's like an a mutant? So I'm sure Fox probably had the right to Sunfire. I Think around this time mutants weren't a thing. He would have been a and human
00:04:22
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Well, the comic was like 90s. Right, right. But if they were to use them in this version. Oh, yeah. And that era of the human characters. Well, one thing I'm saying, like, Fox probably owned the rights to like Sunfire because he was like a mutant kind of X-Men adjacent. So they probably had like yeah but like Marvel couldn't actually use like they couldn't use Sunfire until they bought Fox. And even though they have them, I mean,
00:04:50
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They don't use them anywhere. No. Well, I used to use Sunfire and Sunspot. Yeah, Sunspot, Sunspot is pure. Sunspot's been in, he was in that... ah New New Mutants and it was like that... Crap, what was that that Fox show that came out that was like... Gen X? No, not Gen X. It was... Shoot, it was like... I can't remember. Oh, it was but it the... ah
00:05:22
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I don't know. I think what you were talking about. I think what you're talking about. It was the one where basically was Polaris, the show. Yes. Yeah. The gifted. Oh, my God. I forgot that was an X-Men thing. Yeah. It was it was at least it was it better than, ah you know, a few mutants. Oh, it it wasn't it wasn't so by the way, it was Eclipse. Who basically kind of has the same sort of powers in some spot.
00:05:50
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He can absorb photons.
00:05:54
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And also, the gifted co-star Jamie Chung, who is you know go-go in Big Hero 6. So it's all connected. It's one big MC EU. Yeah. Well, I mean, it is now. i mean and and like People from the gifted can show it. They can be like a randomist. It's the multiverse. like Remember the gifted? They're here now.
Success of Big Hero 6 Despite Adaptation Changes
00:06:19
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I will only say no one remembers The Gifted. No.
00:06:25
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It was two seasons of that? Never mind, Zach. We're just going to talk about The Gifted. Game the Hero 6, The Gifted. All the weird, just the weird, all all the weird, like like, Marvel shows and, like, uh, superhero shows. Marvel adjacent. Or, like, did you remember this? Yeah, this is terrible. Um.
00:06:44
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Big Hero
San Fransokyo: Cultural Fusion in Big Hero 6
00:06:45
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6. Big Hero 6. Yeah like I feel like I do like it's really rare because as a comic book person I'd be like it's not a rich it's not like canonical to the source material but you don't have to this they do such a good job of just making its own thing Mm-hmm of fitting a Disney version of this alternate future world I don't you don't explain how San Fran Tokyo like exists. They just say hey there it is It's America at least it's it's it's very like, you know Blade Runner or like firefly like any in anything that where it's like Oh Asian culture in American culture combined and then it's just like now it's just like, you know, it's fused together and
00:07:29
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sort of like I know they just basically confuse they they fuse a Chinatown little Tokyo together in LA at least there's a difference there's like a distinction between little Tokyo and then like maybe like it's weird like of most places you'll see a bigger Chinatown than like a Japanese district but in ah LA it's like a bigger Japanese district Well, I wonder, well, in Big Hero 6, I wonder, like, was there San Francisco and Tokyo and then they fused or was it just, it's just alternate universe where there never, it was just like, that was, it was always San Fransokyo.
Hero's Backstory and Character Contributions
00:08:01
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I think it might've been that they just like joint found it together. So they fused it. Cause it makes more sense like that. Or ah you get like a crazier, I think the other crazier thing was what happens if like, this is the future where like Japan won World War II. Yeah.
00:08:17
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or like, or all the like, like, you know, I think it was like the night, like definitely like 90, like there's like a Macquarie, like like rising sun or stuff. I'm just like, Oh, Japan's gonna take over America. they're They're so powerful. Yeah, like something keeping economic, like disasters. Yeah. So Yeah, like I don't know. It's one of those things where kids won't care, but as an adult, you just get stuck on that fact because you can't be like, hey, it's like that's a giant mega Asian city in America. Like where does this exist? Usually if they feature like a type of Chinatown or Asian thing, it's just like a restaurant, you know, this one, surprisingly, no Asian restaurant.
00:09:03
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Well, it's like yeah it's like the same. It's like the Golden Gate. I forgot what they call it. It's not the Golden Gate Bridge, but like but I forget what they think is a different name, but like it's got like kind of like Asian, like the like the whatever the Chelsea's or whatever, whatever like have kind of look like like, you know, like the like Temple Gates kind of. And then it's got like there's like always these like blimps flying in the air for some reason.
00:09:29
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And then, yeah, there's a lot of neon and, you know, all the, um like a bunch of the companies that much of like the, like, the I think the, like the school is like a, you know, has like a, is like a, well, it's just like the astute technology, but like, and then like, I was a hero and his brother are Asian.
00:09:50
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but their aunt's not. Yeah, that's what, like aunt Cass is not it's like hero hero is married in. Yeah. And and you hero is like rewatching again. Like I get like hero hero is very spider man. Like it's like a very spider man origin. Like it's like, you know, his parents died when he was young. He's a like scientific genius. He like lives with his aunt. He gets like an uncle Ben situation with his brother. Like,
00:10:17
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I mean, he ain't gonna spend them three times you think about it. Like he loses his parents, his brother, his brother's robot. So.
00:10:28
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No, it's like heroes should be way sadder for like a 14 year old. Yeah. he' But he's doing fine. Like he's like, you know, he's doing illegal bot fighting. He's like destroying people and the gambling is a 13 year old, which apparently so and he also like all regretted from high school. Like, and then he's all he does now is just like, yeah, build robots and fight fight people and calm them.
00:10:53
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Yeah, I mean, that was doing well for whatever year because he said he graduated 13. Now he's 14. So he's not in a rush. Yeah. But you're also thinking, like, in this city, is he the only smart boy child? Like, you know, child genius. I mean, there seems to be a lot of geniuses. I mean, everyone, everyone at the school is a genius. Yeah. So I think he's like, but he's like an uber genius. Like he's a more genius than anyone else. and Like he's like even more of a genius than anyone.
00:11:24
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Is he though?
00:11:29
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i don' I feel like he's just younger than everyone. Yeah, and yeah, and his like his like micro bots thing is not I mean, it's cool. And obviously it's like a becomes like a powerful weapon for like the bad guy. But I mean, everyone else has like awesome things too. Like, I mean, you know,
00:11:48
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There's like laser like wasabi is making laser grids and honey lemons making like can make any by a chemical together and make like he's like like ah glues and like super hard like like bubbles and stuff.
00:12:08
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Wait, then you know how, okay. So before we get too much into like that, I just want to talk about just like Cromwell's like collective that he's built of these geniuses. Oh yeah. James Cromwell, who's like, whenever, whenever there's like some sort of like evil robots involved, like usually Jake Cromwell's there, like I robot and like a couple of other pictures. Like i think there's a couple of movies where it's just like, Oh, there's like evil robots or something involving like robots going crazy. Chase Cromwell's there. like
Fred's Character and Controversies
00:12:36
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So In the plot, this this professor has collected the best like robotics and scientific binds to trains. I don't know what he's teaching them if he's supposed to be their teacher. It doesn't seem like a school. it seems like a like
00:12:55
Speaker
ah like a test lab. They can just do whatever they want. They can just work on whatever product they want. There's no curriculum. They're not getting homework. It's just like, hey, come to school and just build your robots, build your, like, yo, electromagnetic bikes, build your crazy glue bubbles. Yeah. So here's the thing. Robert Callahan.
00:13:23
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ah James Cromwell. He's the head of robotics. Yeah. Only the one project is a robotics project. yes Yeah. Hitachi's is the only one like got a legit robot. Everyone else is like chemicals, lasers, electromagnets, electromagnets. So what? Yeah.
00:13:47
Speaker
I guess it's different technology. It's very broad because all those are not like very advanced science placement stuff, but it doesn't make sense that the robotics guy gets to like howls them all. Oh, no. and And also just Fred is there who ah it's just rich and he you can just hang out and just like just hangs out like he has. He doesn't go to school. He just he's he's a school mascot. But like, why is he even going to school like and he's he's he's he's an idiot like.
00:14:15
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Well, you probably couldn't get in, ah you know, to the school because he doesn't have like a science background. Yeah. Enjoys working there. And I guess because he's so goddamn rich, he doesn't really need like a job. He just likes hanging out with kids. But that kind of puts into question how old Fred is. I mean, you like you don't think he's the same age as all of them or you think he's just like like's like a fan wilder, like he's hanging out in college forever. Yeah.
00:14:49
Speaker
That would be weird if, yeah, if he like he's like this, like, like, if everyone else is like, I don't know, 18 or something, and he's like 20 something. but He's like a Matthew McConaughey or like a Van Wilder just like hanging out. like They get older, I get older, they stay the same age. I mean, I know, seems kind of creepy, right?
00:15:14
Speaker
And mean I guess you know given what we've learned about TJ Miller, but yeah shes a t mailer I guess that makes sense too.
00:15:24
Speaker
which it's it it is It is weird like like to you know go back and they like be like, man, remember when TJ Miller was like super likable? I know this is, uh, it's so weird because he actually is really good. And it's like TJ Miller was, this is like family friendly to DJ Miller compared to his like real raunchy stuff. And and he he and he was in every, like he was in how to train your dragon. I mean, he was in like, uh, always like kid, like kids movies. Like he was in Yogi bear. Yeah.
00:15:59
Speaker
And, uh, yeah, TJ Miller was like, this is that error where he was defining himself, but then also where he got a little crazy with like, I'm famous. right a Do through hands? Like don't punch people. Don't get drunk in public and punch people. But I say that as someone who's never gotten publicly drunk like that and, and famous at the same time. So careful, Zach. Yeah.
00:16:25
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I might pull a TJ Miller and just be like, get in this cab. You start fighting people? It's like... That's the crazy thing. It's like, he fought people in Hollywood. It's like, everyone knows you in Hollywood. Go fight someone like in another state. Yeah. Not saying it's a good thing. It's a bad publicist, but... My god, you're in Big Hero 6.
Villain Plotlines and Moral Dilemmas
00:16:49
Speaker
You're like you're like two of the biggest animated movies of all time. like What are you doing? Why do you have to do this? But T.J. Miller, you know, probably comes back in some day, some capacity, maybe a Deadpool movie.
00:17:05
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Speaking of Deadpool things, I'm surprised Deadpool didn't get to like make fun of Big Hero six. And in terms of like Fox deals and stuff like that, Big Hero six was probably one of those things, right? Well, I mean, it's it's just the animation. So I don't know if like they're like they're really going after like MCU and you know the recent Deadpool. So I would love to see a nod to Big Hero six from Deadpool. So this is like, oh, he knows he's aware that that's a thing. Or if for whatever reason, his time pad just said like, oh, do you want to go to like the animated world? yeah Yeah. That would have been great if like like if they had like
00:17:47
Speaker
if At some point sometime in like the MCU they jump into Big Hero 6 and like people get animated it when they enter it. See what I mean? but potentially yeah It's like cool world style where like they're not animated but they're they just go into Big Hero 6. I mean Spider-Verse is doing it. like Spider-Verse is doing and all sorts of cross media. like They got anime people going into live action. They got people turning into Legos. like
00:18:19
Speaker
Yeah, i mean and then a big I mean, it's still a thing like Disney's still like, you know, pushing it hard. They open like an entire like area of I think it's California Adventure has like an entire like San Francisco area now.
00:18:34
Speaker
we'll'll We'll get into that at the end after we explain more about it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's it's still it's still around. It's still like, you know, 10 years later, just he's still pushing it. So that's right. He hasn't showed up in eight. Like, that's right. I'm sorry. I really got a sequel. That's the big thing. Like, it's so well the big. thing I mean, it's like in terms of the plot, I like the plot of like a hero's revenge story. You know, like the movie was yet he was using his not using his friends, but just getting them ready for revenge.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, i mean back in his mind, he was gonna like fuck up the masked person. Yeah. I mean, it gets dark. There's sections where it gets fucking dark. like Well, okay, besides the beginning where a hero's brother blows up, he's the only victim besides ah ah like the professor. And it's like not looked into, just sort of like, that's sad. You know what I mean? like The investigation gets swept under the rug so quick. It was just a freak fire.
00:19:36
Speaker
I'll freak if I engulfed the entire building and and it exploded. We're not gonna, but we're not gonna investigate. Case solved. Yeah. Oh, and also this like all technology disappeared. He's like it's like super advanced micro bots. Yeah. So it's it's also like, uh,
00:20:02
Speaker
This is a movie where like the villain's plot makes sense. Mm hmm. And that's the problem I have with it. It's not like if you had a generic villain and you just like didn't show so much of him, I think I would have been like. Like happier for the heroes to win. But in this movie, like if if Takashi didn't die. This the whole different plot, right? Whole different everything. Yeah.
00:20:33
Speaker
i do I do like the, uh, the fake out of they're trying to set like a on to dick, like cray up as like the villain. He's like, he's he's like a super tip, like super sleazy, like but like billionaire industrial guy. Like, and it's like, so like he's such a like blatant red herring of like, Oh, well this guy, this is clearly like they do the whole thing with like him. Like, Oh, these micro bots. I want to buy them hero. Like you you can come work for me. ah but I'll give you millions of dollars. He's like, Oh, well you're a mistake.
00:21:05
Speaker
And then like, like keeps one accidentally quote unquote, and then gets it back. So then, yeah, and then I think they're also playing off the fact like, you know, it was like the bad guy of like, ah you know, record Ralph, and then I think.
00:21:20
Speaker
I can't remember I don't think was he like only if cuz frozen came up the we're talking like before he started like frozen came up like the Year before this like a couple years before this and he was also in that but I don't think I can't remember he was I don't think he was just like on the side like I don't think he was like the Philan's father or that you know, we're like a bad guy I think he was just like it's just like a Tux and all the Disney animated movies now Yeah, he really like tied his boat to the Disney ship and pretty much was featured in almost every other animated feature. Was he also entangled? No, right? I think Wrecker Ralph was what started it. I think Wrecker Ralph was where he jumped into the Disneyverse. Gotcha, gotcha.
00:22:06
Speaker
I mean, he does a good job. He has that snooty tone and, and his character definitely is that giant red herring that like a kid who doesn't has seen a lot of movies would just be like, that guy's the villain. Yeah. And then be genuinely shocked when he's not. And they, they, they, it's, it's such an obvious effort. They like all like big hero six, like the team jumps to the kitchen like, oh yeah, he wanted your micro bots. Like clearly it's him. Like he's the one that's doing this.
00:22:34
Speaker
But I feel like he didn't have to. He's got his own tech company. He'll just either make his own, like a lower inferior version, but as long as he gets to market first, like it doesn't matter about hero's thing.
00:22:49
Speaker
But it's funny because like that was hero's entry project. So I don't, I don't know. Like.
00:22:57
Speaker
If he this guy was smart, he would just be like, listen, like, I'll fund you. Don't sell me the product. I will, like, when you graduate, like, you work for me. Like, I'm signing activity rights to me. Well, you should have bought the school and then had, like, you know, like, like it's like if you work for a tech company, you've designed, devolved something at the company, the company owns it. Like, they should be like, like, oh, I own i owned the school. So, like, because you, like, worked like you, this is like you submitted it for the school. Like, I own it now. like Yeah, no, that's the the evil smart business move is to basically do that. Be like, well, under this clock, this is my work. Because you'll, well, especially, well, technically he didn't because it's sort of like same thing with, um, uh, Silicon Valley where it's like, did you use like the equipment? It's like, no, then it like, yeah, then you can't claim it. Cause it's the tech was still fucking like,
00:23:52
Speaker
So bizarre about it, but. Yeah. Heroes somehow has like an entire like manufacturing facility in his like garage. Yeah. He fabricate that in his aunt's garage. Yes. He's got like a 3d printer. He's got like all sorts of technology. He's got like basically iron man to his toy Stark level technology and like his his garage.
00:24:10
Speaker
It's the insane thing though. bakery shop garage here's the insane thing though. We can't tell if that's just like his only thing that like, you know, he built these things or that's just a standard level of technology by the time, you know what I mean? Like, it's like us showing up through the past.
00:24:29
Speaker
A 3D printer is like a refrigerator in San Fransokio, everyone just has like a 3D printer. It's like, oh yeah, our stupid 3D printer that we just, and for I forget I have it, like. It's like, oh yeah, I just turn it on once in a while. It's like, what do you make? Like cups? Yeah. It's like, it's that. It's like, okay, not to tangent too much, but it's like that craze when 3D printers around this time became super popular in 2014, where everyone was about one at one. I even wanted one.
00:24:55
Speaker
What it came down to is like, what are you going to do with it? Like, can you name five things? And it's like, I couldn't. I was like, it's not worth it. Especially back then when three printers were just new and like almost like $400, $500 for like almost any brand. Yeah. It's like, I made a little statue.
00:25:16
Speaker
like Cool. Yeah. It's like, all right. like that so the initial cost of the statue and this thing okay it's like you could just ask that you could send models now to 3d print shops and they'll just do that for like a fraction of the price is to buy everything
Microbots and Advanced Technology
00:25:32
Speaker
yeah I'm not dissing that many 3d printer amateurs but I'm also thinking you're not gonna 3d print a robot mm-hmm
00:25:43
Speaker
Maybe you can almost there. Yeah. How did did he three print all of his microbots or like, yeah, like he had to, right? Like he was yeah um in the garage. He had like how many garbage cans full of them? Like six. garbage cans full of Yeah. No, he had nine of them. Yeah. Each one of the guys had a carry two. So.
00:26:06
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And then they can, they are able to, they have like some sort of like material and then they can build things. is that He builds that tower during his presentation. So they're just like hitting apartments inside those things or they just like generate matter. They just like create matter. Like um mean maybe in that black swarm, they already had the materials they just grabbed. Yeah. Who knows? But I mean, it's a cool idea. It's a cool that you control like a swarm of bots, but you know how like an, um, Spider-Man,
00:26:36
Speaker
Doc Ock had a problem with like eight of his arms. Yeah. I can't imagine what kind of weird cerebral thing happens. And now like that mask, it's sentient. Yeah. Cause you're controlling like thousands of micro bots with your, with like a telepathy band on your head. So it's like, yeah, it's like, you know, what happens if it's like, it gets damaged or like, it's like the bots get sentient and take over.
00:27:04
Speaker
I'm surprised that wasn't also on the table as a plot like hell handy like like like the mask is damaged and like it's like the microbots are like they start going like like they he he's going crazy because of the microbots or something yeah i got style yeah and that way it's a little more like reasonable because it's like he had a motive but he didn't have the urge to kill but because the bots now gave him the urge to kill yeah he he is like no qualms about killing his students. Like he's like, fuck right yeah i' saying like he he took them years to gather these things. These people, these, this like, people put like care. And then he's just like, I'm going in. Okay. The but Institute blowing up right in the beginning. I get that. He didn't, he didn't expect Takashi to be there. So yeah I get it. That's an oops.
00:27:54
Speaker
Then the warehouse scene of the dock where he threw a cargo crate like at all of them. Yeah. What if they just, they he got them all once and just like, yeah I killed, I killed all my students. We're going to, Kyle Han was already declared dead. So he's living off the grid already. He ain't going back to class. Yeah. Well, it's also, it's also quick. Like he couldn't have, he couldn't have had this plan.
00:28:17
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set up because he didn't know a hero is going to make microbots. So it's like ah he just came with this plan within like ah an hour. Yeah. yeah and and Unless hero said like because because no one knew hero was gonna make but like knew it here like project was like presented it. He's like, all right, i I'm going to like I'm going to steal the microbots. I'm going to like make this like Yo-kai mask. I'm going to like come with this revenge plan like within like, yeah, within like an hour like 20 minutes after I see this presentation.
00:28:49
Speaker
Love the school like okay. No, I think he already had the yokai mass They had like they had like the tilt like the like the telepathy band in there already or like no you put it together I don't think you need the event in the yokai mass But it makes sense for this guy with like revenge and in all this intelligence and resources well I think I think he used use heroes like version to like protect himself from the fire and then he Like reverse engineered it. He he put that into a like he he ah he like escaped all of the microbots and then like yeah started manufacturing that warehouse and then he like made his mask with the with the band and the telepathy thing in it. That makes sense. that That makes more sense. Wow. So he literally was just like, all right, let me just like rip the gas line out in this building. And then
00:29:45
Speaker
um fake my death like this moment he did that that night you know what I mean like yeah I mean was it I mean wasn't an accidental like that'd be crazy if there was just a random accidental fire just like erupted and that like like played this plan or you're just like it's like this is on the cuff just like oh there's a I'm caught a fire but it's micro bots I can't get my revenge now I think I don't know. yeah i don't For a smart guy, his plan was really, it like, um like, improved. And then, with Takashi being dead, he should have just been like, oh shit, I didn't mean that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he really went all in to being evil. Yes. you For something when like, it's ah such a surprise. There's no, like, hint. Even the backstory they show you from, like, the test footage.
00:30:41
Speaker
from the like pilot footage, there's nothing that indicates that he would have like murderous tendencies. No, he he doesn't there's like nothing of like, he's like, like, he doesn't try to like reason with like, like the bigger six of like, I'm trying to save my daughter, like, let's get out of the way. Like, he's just like, I'll kill you. like Yeah. Yeah. He's full on like three years as a villain already. in this Yeah.
00:31:06
Speaker
ah I forget, like they've only meet two times in this movie? Like fight like fight him as like it the as the villain? Oh, maybe three. Really? Three times, yeah, as the villain. Because Baymax and Hero go by themselves, and then then and then they assemble the team, and they go and fight him. Well, so they they assemble the team after the dock. like They gear up everyone. So that's yeah the first time. Then the second time is confronting the island.
00:31:39
Speaker
And then really, it's the third time at the standoff where it's like, all right, we got we got to go to that building opening. Yeah, we got to go with the Quantum Realm, whatever we're going into.
00:31:53
Speaker
ah But yeah, in this movie, it only takes place mean right when that kickoff happens. It's just two days. I mean, there's montages. I feel like there's like probably like more time is passing. OK.
00:32:09
Speaker
There's a whole there's a like Fall Out Boy montage, which how did how did you what did you think? of Like when you when you first saw this movie, like the the Fall Out Boy song starts, Chris. Oh, like blew my mind. I feel like it was so it was i was so like so jarring, just like, wait, Fall Out Boy. like Yeah. I was like, how do they pull this? This is and then from their album of their new album, too. It was it was written. It was written it was just it was written for the movie. And then they they made a different version for their like album that came out after the movie.
00:32:40
Speaker
So it was it was written specifically for this movie. Wow. But it's, it's just like, it's it I mean, obviously Disney has like, always has like a history of songs and they become like pop songs and stuff. But like, you don't, you don't, like, like you don't expect like, yo, a fall out boy song in the middle of like your Disney movie. Yeah. You know, like usually it's original music, some original song. This would have been like brought like a Broadway style song too. Not like a you pop punk. Oh yeah. Definitely not a pop punk. My God. yeah This would have been a song called like get big.
00:33:12
Speaker
or Yeah. you Like some might, you know, they would have been singing it or or someone would be singing it, but it's not. It's as if they're listening to Fall Out Boy while like doing work. It is different. um And then Disney hasn't really done that since, right? It's not like any, it's not like Wish has a random like Adele song in it.
00:33:36
Speaker
No, they've they they really they've really gone back to it's ah it's been pretty much all like, you know, Broadway style, like we're we're musical musical like it's all like big, big show tunes. So I'm also thinking they were trying to something different because I guess like DreamWorks was doing all of the like DreamWorks and the Fox animations were probably doing pop songs and their stuff.
00:34:03
Speaker
I don't know if ice age has like a soundtrack, you know, like something they were doing. Yeah. I wonder what, what were they up to? And like, I'm trying to think of what you were still up to in like 2014. Okay. Like 2014 minions, minions had music from real pop things. So they were like, let's get on to like, just involve me more modern pop music. I think that was the turning point when minions showed up and then they were like, Oh, we can just incorporate like.
00:34:31
Speaker
Feral. and you say
00:34:39
Speaker
ah But yeah, I think you're right. like the The montage scenes really do speed things up, especially when it's about creation and you don't want to see the a drawugh like the drawn out process of what it is to like experiment. but I do appreciate that there's it's like an old school 80s montage. of like it's like it It's a full on training montage.
00:35:02
Speaker
where you get to like see everyone like like develop their like third new armor and suits and stuff, then ah figure out how to use them. Yeah. Granted, they are nerds. um Really, Gogo's the more athletic one because her her like thing involves her like working out. Wasabi's was different because, yeah, he just developed blades. But just because you developed blades doesn't mean you're good as a swordsman. But what he is. He is, yeah.
00:35:35
Speaker
And I think when when you think about it, like honey, honey lemons is like the craziest because she has to like, remember all these different combinations of like chemicals and then remember what they do. Oh, so she doesn't accidentally make like mustard gas. Like, yeah, it's like, oops, I actually print like my bleach and ammonia. like Oops. Oops. I put dry ice in like cold water or like, uh, or hot water. It's just like shit that explodes.
00:36:01
Speaker
You know, it's weird. I know it's like you're watching it recently, too, is like here doesn't give himself any sort of like weapons or like he just makes himself armor, but he doesn't have any sort of like special like tech in it. Like I said, nothing like his only thing is like he he rides on Baymax. It's his only power. Wow, you're right. He gave everyone else weapons, but himself.
00:36:22
Speaker
He doesn't have, you know, he doesn't have a laser or like a blaster or like, ah you know, no he doesn't have any sort of offensive weapons. It's just like, his go-to is like, I sent a Baymax to bat tell Baymax what to do. Well, here was like a kid who like, his imagination is good for other things, but for like, for confrontations, he doesn't fight. Yeah. But then he, but he's but but he's but he's full on like, I want to murder this guy. So like, you think he would give us like ah a laser or something? like
00:36:52
Speaker
yeah just wasabi's got like you know his power just get like a dagger i mean you want revenge right yeah it is i see here's the weird message it it's like is he considered murder what he was trying to do when the robot is doing it because it's like it's not like he killed him hey max killed him The Frankenstein monster that basically he was forced to make. I mean, I guess he's the one that programmed the kill chip. Yeah, but that's the same thing. So Cromwell,
00:37:38
Speaker
his character is is like, oh, it wasn't my fault. like Your brother made his choice to basically perish in that fire. it's like And you didn't help him. And it's like, well, now the, the revenge robots back like, and like, yeah, it's like you killed its master. So balance.
00:37:58
Speaker
I know very gray area, but Zach, if you've got a ah robot that can kill and I'm killed by someone that you can start with a kill robot, you've got to have said that kill robot happened to them.
00:38:09
Speaker
Well, that whole scene is shocking, of like like when like he'd like like hero takes out like the but ah he like like the medical chip and then Baymax is just like a like a killing machine. Yep. It was just like like because Baymax is like one of the most lovable characters in the history of cinema.
00:38:28
Speaker
Like, he's just like, you want to hug him so hard. And he's just like so sweet and innocent. And then, like, a bit of a hero pulls that chip out. He's like, he's just like his eyes turn red. he's And then, like, they can't stop no no get stop him. And he's just like a
Betamax: Character Development and Ethical Implications
00:38:40
Speaker
killing machine. He's a terminator, basically. I was for it. I remember in the movie theater, I saw that. I was like, oh, man, this is the first. We're going to see basically, like, an inflatable balloon kill a person. Yeah.
00:38:56
Speaker
with this rocket fest and his karate skills.
00:39:00
Speaker
but I don't know. I'm kind of old school justice. I'm like, yeah, go Betamax. Or at least beat the shit out of them. but they ah they like they like They just brushed it aside so fast. Like they put the chip back in and it's like, Oh, basic like he's like, Oh, I'm sorry. And then, well, yeah, but beta max also says like, I was violated. Like the way he said that, I was like, Ooh. And and they then he stops, he stops here from like accessing his chips anymore. Yep. But then the rest of the team like shows up and like, Oh, Hey, we forgive you. Like we we understand. It's like, okay, but maybe someone killed you all, but you're you're good with it now. Well, okay. Beta max honestly didn't try to kill them. He just like, like rushing them off.
00:39:41
Speaker
Yeah, because they were interfering with his his new his new directive, which is to kill Callahan.
00:39:48
Speaker
Hey, man. They don't teach in school. You cover up a mirror with like yeah an arson slash like explosion. like you Expect a killer robot to come after you.
00:40:05
Speaker
there is such a crazy like it's always like it's always in the back of like it's the background now like if you if you take out that one other chip from Baymax he's like an unstoppable killing machine no he becomes a karate robot at death yeah it's not like he who he pulled a weapon or like he he armed himself like with a bomb it no literally his fist he's a rocket fist yeah yeah they're coming coming right at you
00:40:36
Speaker
Cause, cause like literally everything else about Baymax, every other scene with him is just like, it's just like the most adorable, like the scene where he like, he's drunk, but like, where it's like, it's like, he old power power he he's like a drunk is just like so hilarious. Yeah. Uh, definitely remember when he's like buzzy bait, furry baby. Yeah. The cat.
00:41:00
Speaker
Or he's just like, I'm a healthy robot. I'm gonna scare you.
00:41:07
Speaker
i Well, my favorite is like when he like tries to take like the first step on the stairs and just like face plants. Yep. I mean, this movie, it brings back the tradition of like alcohol things in Disney stuff. Yeah. Ever since like Pinocchio had like drunk Pinocchio, like there hasn't really been another. No, they weren't you. Dumbo? Dumbo had drunk. Yep.
00:41:29
Speaker
Pokeup, Pinocchio, drunk. I feel like that Bruce Spring thing, like, um no, bill the Billy Joe movie might have had a drunk character in there. Oliver & Company? Yeah. but i mean The homeless guy was drunk. There's like a homeless human in that one. Yeah, that might have been drunk.
00:41:53
Speaker
Then like nothing for a while. Yeah. But like like like one of the main characters like acting like a drunk or like being drunk is like a loss art. Yeah. It's a loss art of his Disney drunk characters. Give us more of that, Disney. Yeah. I'm surprised MCU doesn't have like a drunk character yet. I mean, I mean, they did half-hearted kind of like even the bottle. I mean, super half-hearted.
00:42:21
Speaker
where it it wasn't really alcohol. It was like he was being poisoned by like the, um, poison. yeah But nah, just give me like a straight up like, Oh, Oh, I mean, okay. They have that scene where Stan Lee gets like as garboos, but not the same. Yeah.
00:42:43
Speaker
Yeah. Scott Scott adds it as Baybacks just you crushing it. Like every line is hilarious.
00:42:51
Speaker
I love, I love like, like, like when you have like robots, there was like, when you have like really like, it's like super funny, but the they're just like saying like the like the like dead, like dead logical things. Where it's like, heroes like saying like, Oh, I'm oh, that's sick. and It's like, you're not sick. It's like it's just an expression.
00:43:15
Speaker
Yeah, the misunderstanding of like idioms, idioms and colloquial terms. i probably yeahloquiisms Yeah, colloquialisms. Yeah. Mm hmm. That's something like AI doesn't get. Yeah. But it's like learning them, which makes them even more lovable. Like there's like a fist bump and all that stuff.
00:43:40
Speaker
I do that. I do like that it is like a play on the Terminator 2 logic of a learning computer. so Like the the the exact opposite of a Terminator, like the most like, like he's just a giant balloon, like a giant huggable balloon. But in the terms of like he learns and yeah it's like even the goodbye later where it's just like, yeah, you got to like deactivate me. It's like,
00:44:10
Speaker
sure They showed it in a full homage when when like the fist launches, they have it be like a a thumbs up. buts yeah like ah but like the ah Back to like the ah of the Quantum Realm where they are.
Villain's Plan and Quantum Realm Discussion
00:44:23
Speaker
so So when Betamax shuts off in that like Quantum Realm, does he take his original card? I'm afraid I got that. like He has the memory card with him, right? like the card the card's The card's in the fist. And that's how okay yeah like bring that's how you can bring him back in like a new body. Right. OK. So just the body's dead. Yeah. But I'm i'm so i'm i'm i'm not sure how Baymax was able to like put it in the fist and they yeah then he was still kind of like yeah know functioning. Because it seems like if you take that chip out, like it seems like it instantly is like not functioning anymore. so ah Or something, right? is is that like I don't know.
00:45:04
Speaker
what like there's gonna be like a ah vision of Betamax like you know some sort of weird um entity enters that body and he comes back that would have been the sequel like watching that robot basically get like an evil Betamax spirit in him he becomes like the comic version like he he was a dragon like yeah we don't know what happens that other dimensional riff like He gets morphed. That could be like a Doctor Strange universe, like confused with like Mephisto or something. Well, I was going to say, let's get even weirder. Let's get Warhammer 40K, where basically when you spend that much time in a dimensional rift, it just ends up in hell. and And demons basically can modify technology to their will. So like at ah it's like an event horizon. Well, apparently, apparently either in in that realm, apparently either time does exist or
00:45:57
Speaker
that pot has like like incredible like kind of like cryostasis like systems because like hell has daughter and like really just like doesn't age how long she's been in that portal for or Abigail like I i mean it seemed like that was like years before like the uh like oh like he like started teaching at the college or something because whoa was it I thought it was something like a month ago because he was he was like he was working he was it's he was working for cray and they were they were developing this like uh Uh, yeah, this port teleportation technology, and then like it went it went bad. But yeah, I got, I got a sense that it was like, you know, that was like years ago. I thought it was something like a month or something where, you know, it's like, Oh wow, this happens real quick. That's why it was like all impulsive. But wouldn't it make sense then for like Callahan to just invent oral technology instead of robotics? I try to like get back there. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:00
Speaker
I mean, there'd be like a full-on Doc Ock situation where like like he builds the portal, but it's like even more unstable. It's like sucking yeah it's like basically a black hole. That's why I didn't stop him.
00:47:11
Speaker
yeah but he basically okay okay so we're going to the ending now so yeah his plan the true plan was to use the robots to deconstruct the guy's headquarters well rebuild the rebuild the portal the teleportation portal because i guess part of it like ended up in the ocean or something because he had to pull it out of the ocean oh that's Um, or yeah i don't know how that ended up in the ocean, the government dumped it in the ocean or something. Cause the government, like the government like, like disbanded it. Like we're not, this product's like done. We're not like funding this anymore. Oh, we lost that test pilot to the, you know, the other verse. We're not even attempting another chance at it. Yeah. But yeah. So like hell, like he gets all the parts back and then he rebuilds the portal and he's a,
00:47:57
Speaker
because he knows the portal is unstable, it's basically a black hole he's gonna use as a suck in craze headquarters and like destroy everything that he loves, which is his business.
00:48:09
Speaker
But it's like, like, he can't control it. So he's like the entire like, all of the San Fransokyo's in jeopardy because he's like, basically unleashing this like black hole on the city. Yeah, it's an everything everywhere all at one situation. Yeah. But For a tech guy, I guess he didn't care, right? It was the point that like, he was so mad that he was willing to basically let the world explode. Yeah. He just got evil for no goddamn reason. Like, I mean, just like, get it like yeah, like murder murderously super evil. Yeah.
00:48:42
Speaker
He hides it pretty well, considering how long ago his daughter got sucked in that hole and then to the events. And then he's like, he's like, you know, mentoring all his kids and they all love him. He's like, Oh, cool. Which one of you can I steal the tech from? Yeah. Which, who's whose tech will give you the the ability to kill like, uh, on two decades. But wouldn't you want your kid, wouldn't you guide your students to basically make those things? Cause it's like of what the kids had, right? One met a medical robot.
00:49:12
Speaker
yeah One made chemical bombs, one made laser grids, and the other one made wheels. Like, ah yeah, a super advanced bike. So, like, Hero was the missing piece with the mind controlled robots? Mm hmm. Yeah, but like,
00:49:33
Speaker
why steal that why do that you could ah copy that and do it in secret not like that day he's just like all right like i got to explode everything he should have been like hey my super advanced like class of geniuses um i've got this idea for a teleportation device like why don't we why would we like build like build one together portal yeah we'll build this portal I mean, I imagine if you combine everyone's specialty, you probably couldn't make a kick ass portal thing because you have robots to build it. You have the laser grids to probably open up a riff and reality. Yeah. Chemical expert to basically make sure that it's like stable. Like I don't you know. I mean, like there was so many things he could have done before he went to straight up evil plan that like he didn't know what he was doing by the end.
00:50:26
Speaker
I love that the portals are also just straight up like stargates. Yeah. They don't have like how it goes like that, but they're basically like the exact same design as stargates. It has to be like a whole, I guess like gates, like actual physical circle. But they also use like the time cop thing where like you need a shuttle. Yep.
00:50:52
Speaker
And you, so yeah, you, you, you, you shuttle in and then, well, how, how'd the hat, how'd the hat like make it through like the, like weird, like you just throw the hat and it comes right back. because you but because Like you see like the second, when you go into like the portal, you're you're in like that, like insane, like.
00:51:10
Speaker
like other dimension. I guess the momentum's different you guess momentum I guess I guess orre guess if two ah both are working, then it's like a ah straight path. But then if you, if it's just the one, then you just, you end up in like the insane, like parallel universe, whatever it is. You end up in the MCU. Cause the heck, the heck is like the both, like both parts are working on them when he throws the hat, but then When, uh, they go in, like, they they go into the one portal, then it's just like this. I guess it's it's just, it's an entrance or so exit or it's the entrance and exit, I guess.
00:51:47
Speaker
What do you want to send a camera first? kind of push It's like we threw a hat in there and it came out. It says we're good. We're going to send a human. there now Yeah. Yeah. so Send the robotic probe in there. In this world where robots are like all yeah. Yeah. And like a child made a.
00:52:05
Speaker
Granted, a child made like a mini robot that can use your mind. You can still build robots. It's not like it didn't exist back in that time. like Yeah. um she Send Betamax. Just send all Betamax then. Granted, he probably wasn't around because Takashi didn't build them. but i'm sure i mean You don't have drones. You don't have a helicopter drone with a camera on it to send that thing in there and let like be like, oh, wow, this this is like a weird like alternate universe.
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah, let's figure out how to get back and forth before we send a human in it. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you you also have like a fly situation where it's like, what if like his daughter like flew in there and there was like a, you know, some weird like creature attached to it and then she came back mutated or something. Yeah. What if you send two pilots and basically became one or like, or like something burst, like, or it's like, um, I think it was like the, what if like the agent car, like the Kathy Carter, what if, or it's like like basically like who lookups out the, the portal.
00:53:05
Speaker
Yeah, it could have been anything like like that. Like there was there was such a like ah insane, like, ah like not thought out government experience. Actually,
Speculation on Multiverse Scenarios
00:53:16
Speaker
there probably is another version of this movie where they did open a portal and so they came out and then that's what they need big hero six to stop. probably I'm probably yeah. Like so sort i' i'm I'm sure like there probably was an idea of like, oh, it's like a kaiju. They have to fight a kaiju. That would have been kind of more appropriate. Yeah.
00:53:34
Speaker
I mean, Takashi could still die in it. Like a monster comes out and steps on him or something. If you need to really make it really sad for hero. Well, yeah, you got to give him his like, uh, you know, his uncle Ben, but so he learns like, like he like makes, makes the wrong choice, but then learns from it. I don't know how the Parker curse got onto him. He's like, uh, he's a secret spider verse alternate Parker.
00:54:06
Speaker
You know, it's funny. I think around this time, like maybe a year prior, they did make. What's her name from Penny? Penny. Yeah. Penny Parker. She needs. Yeah, she. Penny Parker is like crossover with like the figure six. So then we're like making her to show up like a Spider-Verse movie or something. And also. Yeah. Also, even though they have nothing, there's no Spider-Man. There's no Spider-Man. Yeah. So I was going to say.
00:54:37
Speaker
Marvel hasn't really recognized Big Hero six. Like I have not seen them at all in like new Marvel comics. No, I mean, they just had they had their original run, I think, and then the movie and then that's been it for like. They had I mean, there's been like there's been a couple of like others. There's been like the sequel, like the cartoon shows. But I'm saying like in the comic, you would you would figure, hey, you would see like a big hero six cameo or even like just somebody. Yeah, it looks like last time they show up was like, um, 2005 or 2008 was the last last time they showed up. They were in like, they were in like a, like it was like a five issue mini series.
00:55:28
Speaker
yeah it Yeah, it is like, we were talking before, like it is, it's it's kind of weird that like, dis like Disney's pushing it, but they're also like kind of not pushing it. because it's like they got they made like they made like There's a big Hero 6 sequel, there's a cartoon show, and then Baymax got his own... kind of like ah ah got shorts, many like miniseries kind of show on Disney+. plus And then, yeah, they built like, they built like this whole area of like, California Adventure, they made, um there's like, I think, Tokyo has like a ride, like, it's like, Baybacks Happy, the Baybacks Happy ride.
00:56:06
Speaker
um They were like, they were in Kingdom Hearts, there's a whole like, San Francisco Kingdom Hearts section. But it's like, they they didn't make a sequel, to there's no big hero 6-2, like, They haven't showed up and like there has been like multiverse crossover stuff. Mm hmm. Just they kept it very separate. Yeah.
00:56:28
Speaker
I mean, every it's like it's weird. It's like every other like Disney animation movie from this this time period kind of got sequel like Rick and Ralph got sequel. Frozen got sequel. I got Tangled in its sequel. But like I guess I'm surprised Tangled ever got a sequel.
00:56:42
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure it's ah i express it's like on the way. it's But yeah, considering how much like, because I made a ton of money, I mean, it won it won the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature. And it's just like, they set it up for a sequel. I mean, they're like, they're all they're assembled as a team at the end of the movie. Like, it seems like it's like, get ready for big more big hero six in the big screen. They're all they're ready now. They're officially a team. Like,
00:57:14
Speaker
Yeah, maybe, I mean, there's, I mean, there's still, I mean, it's 10 years later, they're still pushing it pretty hard as far as you know but you know building that whole theme parks. So maybe, maybe there's another big hero six movie on the way. Maybe, maybe we're like wishing it, the SEO from this episode will finally get the attention that yeah needs the whatever internet limit for something to be talked about enough where like, they're like, oh, it's ready. The 10 year olds that watch this are now 20.
00:57:42
Speaker
and they are gonna crave a Big Hero 7.
00:57:47
Speaker
Or, yeah, or some sort of multiversal thing where there's gonna be, like, if we ever get to, like, you know, Secret Evasion or whatever we're doing with MCU, like... Just, uh, Secret Wars, just, like, out of nowhere. Secret Sea Wars, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, yeah. Here comes, uh, Baymax. Here's Baymax, yeah, here's Baymax, yeah.
00:58:10
Speaker
But then you find out he's evil, Betamax, and he's right he's like... Oh no, he has the like Neo chip. He only has like the the Matrix Gratty chip. I would have loved if it was sort of tied into this universe for some whatever reason, it's like the multi-universe fight. And it's like...
00:58:28
Speaker
Oh, he they find the original beta backs body and he's he's like super evil because he's has been like in the void Just yeah thinking about humans and just hating humans but Basically, so I'm thinking he's more of like a crank like he can he just comes back and he's just like oh There's more of me because he like yeah because because because he only gave hero like his like his like ah his good shit inside. Yeah, so yeah there's an evil There's an evil like like killer Baymax is floating in some sort of other realm just practicing space karate yep mm-hmm now he's back and he wants revenge well I mean I don't I don't know his battery lasts I'm sure like his battery doesn't last that long and he's like oh yeah he's a star station he's just drunk and then he like died Jesus Christ that is sad
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah, there's a there's a lot of weird, like, as, you know, yeah, as, like, lovable and, like, as, like, you know, happy as Baymax is. There's, like, if you think about, like, some of the other like some of the stuff that goes on, where it's, like, yeah, there's ah there's like there's a dead Baymax floating around in
Stan Lee's Cameo and Marvel Ties
00:59:34
Speaker
some realm. Like, like if you take a one ship out, there's like like, a Terminator, like, it's like, there's a lot of weird, dark stuff going on. Yeah. What about the end, where, like, everyone thinks it's, like, a happy day, but, like,
00:59:49
Speaker
The test pilots back from a few, from like the past. I don't know how long it's been. She's been gone from her. Yeah. if Like, yeah. if it's If it's been years, like she lost like so many, like a bunch of years from her life. Her father is a supervillain who was arrested and fight. It's never going to come out of, never be released from prison. Yeah. Like hero can't trust anyone anymore. But last time he trusted someone for a science project, it killed his brother.
01:00:22
Speaker
It's such a weird way and then the the end yep I see the series now cuz now that's gonna boggle my brain I gotta see if the series addresses that where the first episode should be like hey ah This is hero at 15 after some therapy Well this was this was his therapy Like almost almost killing the person that killed your brother
01:00:51
Speaker
I mean, that was beta max's assumption. He was like, ah, he figured his mental health. He's like, oh, you're liking this. This is working. three minutes work this so yeah This is a like like a like ah wide scope of like treatment of like, oh, I see your dopamine levels are going up because we're you know flying and ah trying to find your brother's killer. That that means that means this therapy is working.
01:01:18
Speaker
Yes. And he also scanned everyone in Sanford, Tokyo. Yeah, that was really like he just has like a record of all their like biological makeup. Yeah, that doesn't mean it's time to like, oh, they like Dark Knighted, like the entire like all Sanford, Tokyo. They did like the Dark Knight thing of like this, like finally everyone's like privacy to like find this one guy. Yep.
01:01:45
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We'll just sweep that another arrive. I don't worry about that. Well, cause it was cause there's, we had so much fun flying beforehand. It was such a wonderful scene of them flying. What'd you realize those flying was actually probing. Yep. We have scanned the entire city.
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Oh, one other thing about you too, but before we like wrap up is like, um, ah Marvel movie, obviously there's a Stanley cameo. greatest can I like the cameo. Yeah. hes he's He's Fred's dad. You find out that he's like he's some sort of superhero and then they're going to team up or like he's going to teach Fred superheroing or give him more training as a superhero. Maybe this is like his hero origin begins. Yeah.
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Although his costume seemed very garish. like He has like polka dots on his like the front part of the like the underwear part of it. And then like it's like blue and yellow and red. and you know never hold an age com we We also like never learned what his name was. We don't know what his name was as a superhero. its just like Here's this like crazy costume. And that's ah it's Stan Lee. And they both they both shared they both share the same like disgusting way
Big Hero 6 TV Series and Evolution of Disney Animation
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of like. a warha but They wear their underwear four times when they watch it.
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Yeah, what one of the craziest, like, just having Stanley just be like, I wear my underwear, ah front side, back side, left, right, backwards. like It is pretty funny. I think everyone in the theater I was at which was just like, ooh.
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and Again, to see Stan Lee in an animated form, and it's like, I'm surprised we didn't see a lot of cartoon Stan Lee's. It's like you made comics. I think maybe he's in comics for like 30 appearances maybe over his long career.
01:04:03
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Like Stan Lee in the background or Stan Lee talking to somebody. Yeah.
01:04:12
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So now he's in a Disney thing talking about underwear.
01:04:19
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Yeah, i feel like I feel like I definitely need to watch the show because neither of us has seen the show, but it's like it was like ah it was like Disney XD. It was like but thing it weird because it came out like three years after the movie. It was 2017, so it was like it was like pretty like People were like, oh, remember Big Hero 6 that came out a couple years ago? It's back. Well, plus me and you weren't the age group that they were targeting, because it's like, I don't know if it's the same tone as the movie. it's the same It's the guys who made the Buzz Lightyear cartoon and then Kim Possible.
01:04:53
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And it's I think most of the cast came back. like A couple people did come back, but like most of the cast um were like reprised their roles. I think the only person they come back was Dan Wayne's junior. They come back like Kerry Payton from Walking Dead is Wasabi. And then they and then T.J. Miller didn't come back. They got Brooks Brooks well in from. She sounds like a good T.J. Miller replacement. Yeah. But everyone else. Yeah, everyone else like Scott Edzitt, Ryan Potter, Jesse Rodriguez, Jamie Chung, Mike Rudolph, they're all back. And I guess I guess Andrew Scott is like the main one of the main villains.
01:05:29
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Who's here? Like he's Moriarty on Sherlock. He's, you know, he's like hot priest in sea bag. Like so he yeah he's like, he's like, i got like, like, like the main villain of the show, I guess. Does he have a space daughter he's trying to find too? Maybe, I don't know.
01:05:58
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But ah yes, I think I'll wrap it up for this week. Big Hero 6, if you haven't watched it in a while, go check it out again, because it's a super fun movie. um Definitely one of the, but one of the like, um i mean all all I mean, all the Disney animation, like, this was like, this, it was like the second Renaissance for Disney animation, where it's just like, oh, we're back. We're making, we're, like, we figured out how to make good movies again. and
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it was like It was like, it was like, it was that, like, Tangled, Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph, Big Hero 6.
01:06:32
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I don't, I don't, are they, I feel like they might be a slump again, but like, I'm trying to think of like recent stuff. They they're kind of, they're leaning back into like sequels and everything, all, all the sequels, everything's, everything's a sequel now.
01:06:50
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But they were coming, they were coming out of like, you know, it was like the, was it chicken little and like, um, Oh, did they make did they make robots or they was it wasn't wasn't like a weird was like there's like two different robot movies that came out the same time. Like you said ah like a robot movie that like the end of the movie. Well, it wasn't this, right? No, there was it was like but military robots. Yeah. And then. I think it was like Chicken Leto and Robots, like those are the two movies I remember back to back.
01:07:30
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I'm surprised. Yeah, there wasn't and another like DreamWorks presents like some kid superhero property thing.
01:07:42
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Oh, Meet the Robinsons. That's what I think of. Meet the Robinsons was Disney and theyre like the robots was the other one. I think I was like DreamWorks or something. I actually like Meet the Robinsons. It's like very underrated. They had bolts. They had Home on the Range. I have not seen those two.
01:07:57
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Oh, I guess, I guess Princess of the Frog kind of was like the like, started like the resurgence.
01:08:05
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Of? Well, like, they had like, they kind of like, because like, all the Chicken Little with Robinson's Bolt, they didn't really do that well. But then Princess of the Frog, would like, kind of like, everyone's like, Oh, this is like, they're back. This is back. I think Tangle did that. But for like, their seat, like, they're like, they're kind of like, their CG oh stuff. Yeah. No, no, Tangle, Tangle CG.
01:08:24
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Yeah, Princess of the Rock was the last big 2D traditional one. They're like, well, we're not doing the same war. Revamp, we're doing CG. And they kind of settle and figure out their dizzy animation look, because all the characters look the same in all their movies now. Oh, you're right. Actually, I haven't thought about it. Once the last time I saw a 2D Disney movie. I mean, Wish was 3D, but they kind of layered on cell shading on it to make it look 2D, I think.
01:08:57
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But yeah, they have theyve they haven't made like a 2D anime movie since Princess of the Frog.
01:09:08
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Oh, I guess I got to look at the list. I guess they had it like, I mean, they had a Kanto recently that was gigantic. But then like, it was like back to back like Strange World and Wish were both like giant flops. Oh, yeah. They got Moana too, like in like, oh, couple weeks here.
01:09:26
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they but Yeah, they've they've been like really up and down is the animation.
01:09:35
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But yeah, maybe maybe one day we'll, let me be hero six two or be hero six seven or be hero seven if they make a sequel. But yeah, go check out the hero six, go check out the, I guess the, yeah, image shows as well.
01:09:51
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just fun, you know, fun Disney animation take on Marvel stuff. And like the and like the height of Marvel MCU, like this is like the Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy a year for the MCU. So that was like a MCU set at its peak and then we got this other like kind of fun kind of other spin on Marvel stuff.
01:10:12
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So yeah, so that'll do this week for this week's podcast. Come back next week, we're gonna be talking about ah Best of the best, because that's also celebrating at anniversary, but also it kind of ties into Cobra Kai coming back for part two of three of the final season. And they've actually they're actually kind of like, they've directly referenced best of the best in like, I think in the first part, like Johnny shows them best of the best. It's like part of the training.
01:10:39
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So yeah, we'll dive into all the all the karate action of that movie next week. And head of the site, we got all of our usual. We got news, trailers, reviews. ah um we got We got our trip report from Retro Game Con in Syracuse last month. we All the stuff we saw and did at that con um is up on the site now. We've got ah all of our we got other ah so i got reviews of like you know Venom and even
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