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Episode 60: Wrecked My Car Went Home Watched Wrestlemania 2
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Come join the hangout as Garrett & Derrick talk about Garrett's car wreck and other ways he messed up this week. They watch Wrestlemania 2 for the first time. Also, Garrett's homework for the week was Eddie vs Brock at No Way Out 2004 and Edge vs Mick Foley at Mania 22.
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Introduction & Fortune Cookie Anecdote
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermine, a pro wrestling hangout. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. And with me, as always, a man who would be the man who walks a thousand miles to fall down at your door, Derek Halpin. Yes. Smooth. Wasn't expecting that as an intro today, but that was smooth.
00:00:30
Speaker
Yeah, you didn't even have anything to say after that. You're just... It's like a fucking fortune cookie doing this show with you sometimes, because I don't know necessarily... I mean, I could have said Forrest Gump box of chocolate shit, but it's a fortune cookie. Still my all-time favorite fortune cookie reading is from the Simpsons, when Homer wants to write fortune cookies, and I believe he wants them to be more realistic. So he writes one that says, later you will be aroused by a shampoo commercial.
00:01:01
Speaker
Hopefully, later you're aroused by this podcast. Hey, what episode number is this? Where are we at? What's going on? Genesis, we're at 60, right? That seems about right. I'm pretty sure this is episode 60.
00:01:15
Speaker
This is also the latest you and I have ever recorded an episode to its release.
The Car Accident and Aftermath
00:01:21
Speaker
We're recording this at 8 p.m. on Wednesday. This is gonna be in your ears by midnight, I promise. You promise? Yeah. It's been a hell of a couple days for you here, so you almost didn't make it to episode 60.
00:01:35
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I had big plans last night, Derek. I had huge plans to watch all the wrestling. I had it blocked off from like 5.30 to 1 in the morning. I was just gonna be getting through it. And then Braun Strowman wrecked your car. Yeah, I had a head-on collision with another vehicle and it, yeah, that was my first wreck, Derek. It sucks.
00:02:01
Speaker
Yeah it really does suck and I'm just glad you're alive. Oh shit yeah I was leaving work and I'm gonna go ahead and tell you this I I mean obviously I don't know who's to blame at this point but I'm gonna go ahead and start pointing the blame at Google Maps. You're blaming Google Maps.
00:02:20
Speaker
Yes, every day I put in my address in Google Maps because there's a shit ton of traffic and it gives me shortcuts. But it does not give a shit if you have to make an unprotected left into a very busy street.
00:02:38
Speaker
There's two things that Google Maps doesn't give a shit about. It does not care if you go through a bad neighborhood that you might not want to go to. And also, just a stop sign where you gotta take a left into a four-lane road with a lot of cars. So you're saying Google Maps is as bad at giving directions as Vince Russo is at booking wrestling? I liked Vince Russo. Hit our goddamn music.
00:03:42
Speaker
Uh, I'm kind of proud of that one. That was good. Yeah, that was good. But yeah, you know, traffic was backed up very far. The cars stopped. Like, you know, both of them stopped because it was backed up to the stoplight, which was like two blocks away. They stopped to let me pull out so that I could go the opposite direction, which was very nice of them. However, a gentleman decided he was going to go through all like like a mile of turn lanes to beat all the traffic.
00:04:12
Speaker
and when I rounded that corner we hit head on baby. What did you say out loud when it happened? Did you just say fuck? I don't think I said anything. It was like time slowed down to where I could see that he was coming and then the next thing I knew I was sideways blocking two lanes of traffic during rush hour. Was he hauling ass and did you cry?
00:04:35
Speaker
You know what? I was very proud of myself on this, Derek. I did not cry. Did you want to? No, I was honestly pretty surprised at how well I maintained composure throughout this whole thing. This was a very adult experience, and I handled it well.
00:04:51
Speaker
So what happened next? So you're getting ready to make the unprotected left turn. Some guy's trying to bypass all the backed up traffic, smashes into you, head on collision. You're sideways in the middle of an intersection or whatever. And so I look over, he is over to the side. He is in oncoming traffic now. Everything has stopped.
00:05:11
Speaker
And I see that both of his airbags are deployed. I immediately called 911. 60 seconds later, a cop just happened to be passing by, came over and said, hey, are you good? And I said, yes. He said, you should get back in your car. It's cold. So I said, okay. I took one picture of my car, got back in. He told the other guy to move to a parking lot across the street, and then this cop just peaces out.
00:05:38
Speaker
Are you fucking kidding me? He just leaves. He abandoned me, Derek. Look, I know it's not cool to talk bad about the police. My recent experience with the police in major cities has not been positive. They've come across as quite useless at times.
00:05:58
Speaker
I mean, I would consider leaving me in the middle of the road kind of useless. But, so basically the second he splits, I look over at the other guy who has had to move to this parking lot. Keep in mind, he has two deployed airbags. So his car was drivable. Yeah, he could still move with, I need to repeat this, two deployed airbags takes off.
00:06:24
Speaker
Like to the parking lot. No, no, he's already in the parking lot. The cops split, so this guy just fucking leaves. Did you get his information? Nothing.
00:06:35
Speaker
Wait, what? When the cop had that guy move, I kind of figured that was going to be the next part. I didn't realize that cop was just going to abandon us and that that man was going to drive away. Which, if you've seen Clerks 2, immediately the first thing that came to mind is you find out that Jay and Silent Bob were arrested for suspicion of mischief. And somebody says, suspicion of mischief? What the fuck does that mean? He goes, driving with a deployed airbag.
00:07:06
Speaker
so it's always like you got out of the car obviously took the picture the cop told you it's a little cold out get back in the car and and from the picture that you sent in the picture you posted online it looks like the front of your car is is just totally fucked and there's fluids on the ground was there any questions to whether or not the vehicle was even safe to be in
00:07:27
Speaker
Oh, it smelled like smoke. I mean, my first thought was, well, if this police officer tells me to get in here, I should. I should obey the man. And then he drives out. He drives off? He left. Do you want to know how long I sat in that intersection, Derek? I'm guessing about an hour and a half. About an hour and a half. It was actually 90 minutes. About 40 minutes in, I called 911 again. And they were basically like, yeah, we sent somebody. Don't call here again.
00:07:58
Speaker
Like, well, they're not here, so that's not good enough. And they gave me a number for the police, and I called the police, and they go, yeah, it has been about 45 minutes, hasn't it? So at the 90 minute mark, a cop pulls up and is like, hey, are you OK? And I figured, oh, here he is. But this is just another fucking cop that just came upon me.
00:08:23
Speaker
So you have better luck at just lucking into a cop coming by than actually calling them to you. And when I told that cop about what happened with the last cop, his actual response was, what the fuck?
00:08:42
Speaker
Somebody wrapping up their shift for the day, didn't feel like dealing with your wreck. So this cop ends up helping me push my car into this parking lot. Because at this point, I've been sitting in the middle of the road for 90 minutes blocking one lane of traffic each direction. And he's like, OK, put it in neutral. I'm going to push you. I put the thing in neutral. He pushes it like two feet and it stops pushing. And then he starts yelling at me. And he goes, why did you push the brake?
00:09:11
Speaker
I didn't push the brake, I don't know if you noticed the entire front of the car is fucked up. Like, though that would have been a great time for a prank, right? Like, is that what he had in his head that I've been sitting there 90 minutes and now my thing is- Now you're fucking with him? Now I'm fucking with him. So he gets me across the street, this other cop comes, who's the actual cop, dispatched to me.
00:09:35
Speaker
okay and this guy fills out some stuff he's like okay she'll take care of you from here he leaves this lady's like okay wait in your car we'll wait till the wrecker gets here i so i sit in my car she sits in hers the wrecker gets here i get out i go over to her window and i'm just standing there
00:09:51
Speaker
She is just sitting on Facebook on her phone, just kind of scrolling through, and eventually I was like, okay, well, because I didn't want to startle her, but I was like, I am standing out in like 20 degree weather. So I tapped on her window and she said, oh, the tow truck's here. Okay, you're good to go. To which I said, would you like to hear about how the accident happened? What the fuck? No one asked. No one asked. No one cared. And she said, yeah, I guess I should hear it.
00:10:21
Speaker
What? Did you have anybody come up to you like citizens or whatever? Did they ask you how you were doing or if they needed to be witnesses? What's funny is everybody that was there when the accident actually happened moved on. I started getting good Samaritans about 60 minutes into sitting there.
00:10:42
Speaker
And once they started coming, they were popping in every couple minutes. And, you know, I had people of all ages, all races. It was it felt very nice to have this many people stop and check on me. That's so fucked. So you were basically involved in a hit and run where you got. Slammed into from the front and that guy was able to drive away, so he just left. Yeah, I'm thinking he didn't have insurance and left me to die. Did you get his license plate? No.
00:11:12
Speaker
What the fuck, man? No, well he, cause I got out, took the picture, that cop told me to get back in my car, so I did. He told that guy to move, so I kind of figured, you know, we'll exchange this when the cop gets here in a few minutes. That didn't happen. That sucks. Surprisingly feel pretty good today. You're feeling good? I feel fine. So how have you been getting around since then?
00:11:41
Speaker
Well, my wife is on vacation, so her car's here. And let me tell you, since she's left, my life is in fucking shambles, Derek. Before any of this, over the weekend, I woke up with goddamn bites all over me, and I thought, oh my god, I have fucking bedbugs. Nah, the cats had fleas though, and I had to deal with just that shit all weekend, and then I meant a goddamn car wreck, don't have a car anymore.
00:12:06
Speaker
And it kind of fucked up my wrestling. But I want you to know, when I got home, first thing I did was call the insurance company. But the second that was done, WrestleMania 2, baby.
WrestleMania Trip Concerns
00:12:20
Speaker
So how did the wife react to the news of the wreck? Well, she's completely out of the country, so I sent her a text, but she didn't get it for a couple hours. Lovely. Yeah. So about the time the cops finally got there is when she got in touch with you. Yeah, I'm sure she was surprised. And I want you to know, I did say, just so you know, I did not cry.
00:12:52
Speaker
So that kind of catches everybody up on the bullshit I've been dealing with lately This may have been the nail in the coffin on canceling my mania trip though because now I've got this whole other thing I'm gonna have to deal with called new car payments
00:13:08
Speaker
Well, you see, if you get the guy's information, you could fucking hammer him, you know, and this is on him a little bit. But hey, two deployed airbags aren't gonna stop some guy from driving away. Hey, speaking of, my fucking airbags didn't come out, Derek. That's a concern.
00:13:25
Speaker
Well, not now. Well, not now, but it would have been nice while I was spinning around on the road. Oh, fuck. Derek, I went 16 years without even so much as a fender bender. I've never had a speeding ticket. I've never been pulled over. It's bullshit. This broke my streak, and this was a good streak. This wasn't like an Undertaker WrestleMania. This was a real streak.
00:13:49
Speaker
I'm walking home from the grocery store, and I get a text from you that says, welp, dot, dot, and I open it, and it's a picture of your vehicle in shambles. And that was my side of the story. I'm just glad you're okay. I mean, it looked like, it looked like a fucking travesty. It looked like you could have got killed.
00:14:14
Speaker
I don't think either of us like I don't I wasn't going that fast because I was kind of just rounding the corner but he was going pretty quick trying to cut that traffic.
00:14:25
Speaker
Yeah. So he was being one of those douchebags that's like, I'm not waiting in this line. Kind of, yeah. He had a very long way to go. And I can say I don't think it was my fault, because if he were actually turning in that turn lane, he would have already been in the process. Where we hit was in an area with no lines in the middle of that intersection. Lovely. Yeah. So hey, let's get to talking about wrestling, man. You know what I think would make you feel better, Garrett? Yeah, what's up?
00:14:54
Speaker
Some if some of our listeners have sat there and listened to this story your tale of woe as it were and They feel like they need to give something back that would make you feel better. They should probably hop on over to iTunes and give us five stars and Leave us a nice review Because if they leave us a nice review we give something back we give the people who leave us reviews the ability to submit something and
Listener Review & Wrestling Highlights
00:15:18
Speaker
to watch, to listen to, to check out as long as it can be mildly related to pro wrestling and Garrett. That happened. This past week. Well, don't sound so surprised. Well, I'm just happy. It's been a while since we had a kind review come in and. So somebody submitted one and now we've got something to talk about on the show that was submitted to us.
00:15:45
Speaker
So we got a review from Noah is on fire. Stumbled upon this podcast looking for content that isn't mainly WWE centric, although they do do some WWE talk, they're pro wrestling fans. They cover multiple promotions, whether it's New Japan, Ring of Honor, PWG, etc.
00:16:04
Speaker
As a person who lives on the East Coast, I get a cool insight on the Midwest indie scene as they go to shows around Nashville and Chicago area. It's a great listen as I listen every Thursday on my night shift working 3 to 11. Thanks for the entertainment, fellas. Cheers, Noah from New Jersey. And he said the match I'd like for both of you to check out is my favorite match of all time. He said this could brace Garrett for his inevitable chop he will receive. Oh boy, did it ever. Samoa Joe versus Kenta Kobashi.
00:16:34
Speaker
Ring of Honor, October 1st, 2005. This was a long time ago. This was 14 fucking years ago. I wish that was your only review of the match. All right, Noah, thanks for listening. You're just like- No, I just- This was a long time ago? I had to take a moment. I mean, we were freshmen in college when this match was going on.
00:17:00
Speaker
Just take a moment. Think about that. Just a boy who had no idea who Samoa Joe was. Samoa Joe was out there. I know who Samoa Joe was at this time. Brother. Well, I wasn't I wasn't too fucking cool for wrestling at this point. No, what were you doing? You're going to go to my chemical romance comments or concerts and and wearing top hats and shit.
00:17:29
Speaker
That was a pretty good burn. Hit deep because it's true. But I love you and I'm glad you're alive. Hey. Speaking of my chemical romance, yesterday almost took that cemetery drive.
00:17:45
Speaker
That's true. But you didn't. Get back to it, Ring of Honor. Yeah, and Noah wanted us to talk about this match. This was a good one. It was hard to get a nice quality version of it, but I found one on YouTube with some really bad Spanish commentary. Kind of just mumbling under the track the entire time, but I found it. I watched this right before we recorded, and I could not get Daily Motion to work. And I said, I can't find it anywhere. And you sent me that.
00:18:13
Speaker
Damn was that distracting. Oh, yeah Yeah, I mean this isn't on you Noah. No, I'm not blaming you but
00:18:22
Speaker
Fuck. This is the one I had to watch. I had to like I was on my feet. I was standing. I was having to occupy a different side of my brain while watching this match because the commentary was fucking terrible. Not never mind the fact that I couldn't understand it. It was it was just not good quality. It was one man talking so loudly that you could hear none of the impact.
00:18:43
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, but you get a good taste. Samoa Joe's, I tweeted this out, he's been doing this wrestling thing for a long time and he's been good at it for a long time. And it's been a weird week for symmetry. If symmetry is not the right word, just coincidences or just crazy things happening because
00:19:05
Speaker
Samoa Joe on Smackdown this week just picked up his first main roster championship and winning the United States title. Wait, what? Yeah. Sorry, I was busy.
00:19:18
Speaker
waiting for cops. Yeah. So we beat R-Truth? Breaking news. There was a fatal four way on SmackDown between Andrade Cian Almas, Rey Mysterio, Samoa Joe, and R-Truth for the United States title. And Samoa Joe is the new United States champion, his first main roster gold.
00:19:38
Speaker
Well, how about that? That's fucking crazy, by the way. So tie that back. We're watching Joe wrestle Kenta Kibashi, October 1st, 2005, in Ring of Honor, putting on one hell of a match. And breaks out a muscle buster in here, I believe. I totally forgot about the muscle buster until this match. That's how long it's been since we've seen it. Yeah. Well, the big thing, and I think this is what Noah wanted to get at.
00:20:08
Speaker
There's a, I mean, obviously there's chopping and kicking. I mean, they beat the shit out of each other throughout this match, but the climax of this match is Kento Kobashi cornering Joe towards the end of it.
00:20:20
Speaker
He chops him in the chest. Like he goes Super Saiyan and chops him about 200 times. That sounds outrageous, but it's not that far off. And that's after he's already been chopped throughout this entire match. There was a moment in this match where it felt like I was watching somebody play GoldenEye with chops only. Well, the funny thing is the quality on the video we watched wasn't great, but at one point they do zoom in on Joe's chest and it is just destroyed.
00:20:50
Speaker
It's awful. There's a part in this, my favorite part of the entire match was so, uh, Kabashi is chopping his chest and then Joe pulls Kenta's head down to deliver these like three little kicks at a time to his forehead. And then he stands up and chops and he's like, well, how about you get some fucking little kicks? You like these little kicks? And it looked like he didn't love those little kicks.
00:21:15
Speaker
So having watched this match, how are you feeling about getting chopped? Okay. Which is going to happen. We haven't talked enough about the fact that you broke your DDP yoga diet. I don't even know if you've been obeying it again. I don't know what the fuck you've been doing since your near death experience. Maybe you threw caution to the wind. Maybe you're deserving of another few chops.
00:21:35
Speaker
So, okay. Noah, you couldn't have sent this match to me at a better time. After the wreck, I was thinking long and hard, is this karma? Did I do something to make this happen to me? Did I deserve this? And it made me realize I needed to come clean on something, Derek. Oh. Yeah, you do.
00:22:01
Speaker
Yeah, I do. I don't even know what it is, but yeah, you do. Yeah, I do. What you been doing? And, you know, I figure you always give it to me straight and you're not gonna have any sympathy for me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What if I told you that I haven't done DDP yoga in three weeks? You fucked.
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, as I was watching this, I was like, I'm pretty sure that this is the only punishment that makes sense. Your car got chopped? No, no, not the car. I mean, I'm just, as I was watching those little thousand chops to Samoa Joe's chest, I was like, this is it. But then I started thinking, would I rather have one giant chop or a thousand little ones?
00:22:55
Speaker
Well, you know what? You don't get to decide that. We're gonna let our listeners decide what you get. Can I propose something to you though? Okay. I say I still get the chops, but I would like a chance at redemption.
00:23:08
Speaker
You how could you possibly redeem yourself? Well, here's what we're going to do. This is or this is just what I'm going to propose to you because I have failed the listeners. I have failed you. Yeah. I mean, I talked about wrestling during this whole you guys. Well, yeah. And I can live with that.
00:23:30
Speaker
And I can live with failing myself. I can live with failing you. I can't live with failing the listeners. And I already know that Lowell is somewhere in Canada right now being like, chop him, fucking chop him. Lowell just broke a hockey stick over his knee and threw a puck out the window.
00:23:54
Speaker
He's already dialed up Jericho. Jericho's blocking your ass. You're fucked, man. We're going to get that. We're going to get the biggest. We're going to get the biggest goon on some D tier hockey team in Canada to come and chop your ass. Fuck. Is Lowell going to be in Vegas? You know what? I go ahead and say Lowell gets to give me a chop. I think he would love it.
00:24:18
Speaker
I, you know what? That is absolutely true. Lowell, wherever you are, we're getting somebody, but you're getting a chop into God damn it. It was the cupcake. Wasn't it? It opened the floodgates.
Weight Loss Bet & Punishment Discussion
00:24:30
Speaker
That wasn't it. What happened?
00:24:33
Speaker
It was, so I'm a stress eater, Derek, and also I eat for sport. I think if it's more than one thing, it's just a problem. I don't think you get to be like, ah, it's a combination of, no. That's why I related so much to the promos before the Eddie Brock match you had me watch, where he's like, I am a fucking addict! I'm an addict!
00:24:59
Speaker
And I'm like, I get it, man. I love cosmic brownies so much. And he's like, me too.
00:25:06
Speaker
Oh, we've got a lot to talk about. Well, that's as good a transition as anything. Although I am gonna leave that up to the listeners. We're gonna find out what the proper punishment is for you for... You weren't just... You went out of your way to tell me you were gonna be honest about this, too. I know, and the fact that I wasn't for three weeks hurts. But can I propose something to you? Okay. I weighed myself this morning. I'm at 212. Okay. I started this whole thing. What did we say? It was like 225, 230, somewhere in there.
00:25:36
Speaker
So I'd have dropped weight. What if, in the spirit of double or nothing, you and I go double or nothing? What does that mean? So I was trying to figure out what does that mean. I think if by all in, if by all in I could wrestle on 205 Live weight wise,
00:26:00
Speaker
First of all, all ends over, Garrett. After double or nothing, I'm sorry. Let's say double or nothing, I'm under 205 and can participate on 205 Live. In other words, if you can turn yourself into a cruiserweight by the end of May. Correct. I don't get punished for what I did. But if I fuck up and I'm even one pound over,
00:26:29
Speaker
You get to just... You know what? Fucking light tubes, Derek. That's it with you. Can I be honest with you? I don't like this deal at all. You don't want to hit me with a light tube? I do absolutely want to hit you with a light tube. Bearskin, you can stab that shit into my head if David Arquette can handle it. I can. Yeah. No, I can't. Here's the problem, Garrett. I don't think you fully understand the extent of your egregious offense here. Number one, you had the booze at church.
00:26:59
Speaker
Strike one. Fuck off. Yeah, no, Lowell agreed. Two, you had the cupcake at work. And I admitted it. Not only did you not obey the diet for three weeks, which was worthy of a strike three in and of itself, but you lied about it. That's also strike four. I didn't lie. I eventually told you I just... That does not count. I was postponing a truth.
00:27:29
Speaker
Look, I appreciate that man is fallible, and you are but a man, and that you're trying to come clean and make things right now, but it's too late for you, Garrett. You're getting chopped, at least by Lowell. Here's what I want.
00:27:46
Speaker
I'm making sure that Lowell gets to chop you. This is a man who has been down the road before and has done DDP yoga. You're getting chopped by Lowell bare minimum, bare minimum. I'll go double or nothing with you on getting somebody like a heavy hitter to come in and chop your ass. If you can get up under two, if you can get to 205 or under.
00:28:08
Speaker
by double or nothing, you're off the hook for like a major chop from somebody that I can contact and reach out to and really fuck your chest up.
00:28:18
Speaker
And I'm gonna do that, I want you to know I'm a fucking addict! This is a fucked show. This is what we do. We make bets and when we don't fulfill our obligation in the bet, you get chopped. Let's face it, this bet only happened because we knew I wasn't going to succeed.
00:28:43
Speaker
It's correct. And here we are. We just crossed that bridge a lot sooner than I thought it was gonna be. The question is, I think you're more excited about it than I am. About getting chopped? Yeah, I think you want it. I think you'll wear it like a badge of honor. Can Marco chop me? Marco? Marco stunt? I mean, that's somebody.
00:29:12
Speaker
God damn, that would make a great video. I'm going to reach out to Marco as soon as we finish recording here. Somewhere right now, Lola's shadow boxing, just kicking and just saying, fuck you, Garrett. Fuck you.
00:29:31
Speaker
And he's like, no, you don't get Marcos done. You get Jonah Rock, motherfucker. I can't wait to tag him in this episode. And then he'll be like, why did I get tagged in this episode? Then he finds out there's a significant portion of this show dedicated to how excited Lowell is that you're getting your chest brutalized. Listen, we watched Kenta Kibashi versus Samoa Joe from one of our listeners, but
00:29:57
Speaker
I gave you some pro wrestling homework. One of the things that we've talked about in the last few months is you missed out on a period of wrestling known as the ruthless aggression era. And one of my goals for this upcoming season or year of predetermined pro wrestling hangout, I'm trying to get you caught up on some of the great matches and stories from that time period. So I gave you some homework.
00:30:20
Speaker
I gave you a couple matches to watch and now I want your feedback and I don't want your feedback to be vicious. I don't want you to to overanalyze and critique. I don't want you to go Dave Meltzer on this shit. I hope I because I thought I gave you a couple good matches to watch and now I want to get your thoughts on him. OK, like usual, well, you had me start with what, mania 22.
00:30:44
Speaker
Yes, this is the only WrestleMania I've ever been to, which I am not happy to say. I would like to go again. WrestleMania 22 in Chicago, 2006. Edge versus Foley. Yes. Did they say no holds barred? It was a hardcore match? What was the exact stipulation? I believe it was a hardcore match, falls count anywhere, whole deal. Yeah. You know, no count outs, falls count anywhere. You could do whatever. It was just a fucking match.
00:31:14
Speaker
Yeah. And like any time you give me homework, before I got there, I got caught up on some shit that happened beforehand, Derek, that I got questions about. See, here's the thing. I can understand the stuff that comes after what I assign you because if it's on, it plays and whatever comes next, I get it. You got caught up on stuff before? Yeah. Do you remember a match featuring Joey Mercury?
00:31:41
Speaker
Fuck. No. Shit. Or what was the other member of J&J security? It might have been the other one. Johnny Nitro? Fuck, what was it at this point? Joey Mercury. Johnny Nitro. It was John Mor- I mean, he eventually became John Morrison. Where the fuck is this?
00:32:07
Speaker
Where did I watch this then? God damn, maybe this was on no way out. And I, I bet it was on no way out first. Basically what I was going to ask you about is I watched a match of, uh, do you remember Nydia? That one, yes, I watched a match of her and one of J and J security and he was blindfolded.
00:32:27
Speaker
yes this was from no way out two thousand four okay i'm sorry that's what i got caught up on first before that let's get back over to this one as i'm going through getting ready to watch this uh... edge mick foley match i saw that chris pinwall versus jbl was on the card and you just couldn't resist i couldn't resist because it felt like it was going to be the closest thing i got to
00:32:51
Speaker
I don't know, a new Japan match in the WWE? I felt like I was just gonna watch these two guys beat the shit out of each other. And this match, Derek, made me very, very sad. It wasn't as fun as I thought it was gonna be. And Chris Benoit had a sad look to him. He kind of, at this point in his career, is starting to look like Edgar from Men in Black.
00:33:15
Speaker
That's fair. Like it looked like he just like sucked down a whole glass of sugar water before he went into this thing and his base is falling off. Yeah. Mind you, this is WrestleMania 22. We're two years removed from the show ending with him as World Heavyweight Champion.
00:33:31
Speaker
Also, Derek, you got to see an undefeated boogeyman in a singles match at WrestleMania. Yeah? Why have you never told me about this? Every time I bring up boogeyman, you should be like, I was there and watched him defeat Booker T. He was undefeated. Yeah, never mind the fact that I was in the midst of the Undertaker's undefeated streak at WrestleMania. You're not interested in that story. You're interested in the boogeyman being undefeated.
00:33:57
Speaker
Yeah, because Booker T's afraid of him because he eats worms. Yeah. There's a lot of things that are scary. Garrett, had you ever watched anything from this mania before I gave you this match? I had actually seen this match. You had? After watching it. I don't know if I had seen it beginning to end, but I had definitely seen the highlight reel, like the fire table. But watching a highlight reel doesn't do justice to how fucking brutal of a match they put on.
00:34:25
Speaker
To me, the most brutal part of it is when barbed wire came out, I was surprised. And they had said Edge had never done a hardcore match. Mick Foley is literally whipping him with a strand of barbed wire.
00:34:40
Speaker
Now if I recall, doesn't he have it wrapped around his midsection and he has to like clip it free? Yeah, because Edge goes for a spear, I think, and spears the barbed wire. Yes. So he's hurt, he's actually bleeding from his shoulder at that point, so he really got it. Yeah. Then the baseball bat comes out, he wraps the barbed wire around Mr. Sacco, that's in Lita's mouth, she's bleeding out of her mouth.
00:35:06
Speaker
Damn, at the end of this thing, when Edge is finally walking up that ramp covered in blood, he raises his hands but he has a look in his eye like, did I really win?
00:35:17
Speaker
he does have a look in his face like get me out of here like he's like yeah I got a singles match at mania that's a big deal but this sucks what's crazy is this match like this match is great this is what this may have been match of the night there at mania 22 for obvious reasons just kind of the spectacle this is almost a carbon copy of a match
00:35:42
Speaker
from backlash 2004 between Mick Foley and Randy Orton. And it was a similar situation where it was Mick Foley putting over an up and coming guy. And yeah. You showed me that match in college.
00:35:56
Speaker
Did I? You did, because I think we were talking about Randy Orton's brother who pops up all the fucking time on my Facebook as somebody I might know that I should friend. Nathan Orton, yes. So I think you're like, I said something probably about not liking Randy Orton because this isn't new. And this is a long time thing. You're like, well, you should check this out. And it's like, if you don't like Randy, watch what he looks like as a pen cushion.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yes, yes, so there's a lot of similarities so I Did you like it? I love to shake this one.
Wrestling Match Reviews
00:36:31
Speaker
I did this was Honestly, this was truly what I needed last night This for the the night I had you know, especially considering how Mick Foley's entrance music starts and then just everything worked it raised my spirits and I want to thank you for this one this is a
00:36:51
Speaker
This is truly a gem from the ruthless aggression era. All right, let's get right into it. I kind of alluded to it a little bit last week that I had just recently watched this. You've been alluding to the promo package in the last, like, 15 minutes. You are addicted. What are you addicted to, Garrett? Sweets. Sweets. What did you think of the promo package? What was Eddie addicted to?
00:37:19
Speaker
I don't know what his drug of choice was, but he did have some serious drug addictions. So at this point in Eddie's career, I saw the video package in that he won a Royal Rumble that was on SmackDown.
00:37:40
Speaker
Okay, so was him winning that and getting this title shot? Because it sounded like he was kind of getting it as a reward for defeating rehab, you know? Is this kind of the equivalent of like, not that Kofi's in rehab or anything, but like a Kofi Kingston getting thrown into the main event suddenly?
00:37:58
Speaker
Well, that was one of the reasons I wanted to have you watch this, because there's a couple things that stuck out. Now, things are different now than they were then, obviously, for a lot of different reasons. But you had made a comment about Fastlane being a pay-per-view that you kind of viewed as a who-gives-a-shit pay-per-view. And a lot of times people view that pay-per-view right before Mania as a who-gives-a-shit pay-per-view, like as in they're not going to change any of their big plans at the pay-per-view right before Mania.
00:38:27
Speaker
And I wanted again to give this match and this pay-per-view to you as an example of there, they can pull one out of their ass whenever they really want to. Because back at this time, I don't think anybody would have guessed that they would have put the WWE Championship on Eddie Guerrero heading into the 20th anniversary of WrestleMania.
00:38:46
Speaker
Like, this was a big fucking deal at the time. This show was going to be at Madison Square Garden. He was facing Brock Lesnar. Now, I don't know the details on this. I think I've listened to Bruce Prichard's podcast where they talk about this a little bit. I don't know if Lesnar had told them he was going to leave at this point yet.
00:39:08
Speaker
I knew he was he was getting ready to go do a match with Goldberg at WrestleMania 20. But the decision to put the title on Eddie was kind of out of nowhere. And it was like the thing that you just don't expect them to do in WWE. So with that in mind, I gave this match to you as kind of a hey, look what they can do right before the biggest show of the year.
00:39:32
Speaker
What did you think? What did you think of the promo? What did you think of the match? Cause this is widely regarded as like one of the best matches of the ruthless aggression era. If for no other reason than the emotion involved, I was going to ask, is this the best match that Brock Lesnar's ever put on? Um, is there any other match that people look at is greater than this one? He's had some good matches. He had good matches with angle. He had good matches at pay-per-views with angle. He had good matches on smackdown with angle. They did an iron man match together. A lot of people rave about on smackdown.
00:40:03
Speaker
I think he had matches with Taker. I think people rave about his match where he won the title against The Rock for the first time to become the youngest champion in history. So I really need to go back and rewatch some young Brock Lesnar because I really dug him in this. It's fun to watch him try.
00:40:24
Speaker
Well, that's another thing. If you miss ruthless aggression, Brock Lesnar, he used to wrestle. He used to have an arsenal of moves. He used to be able to go toe to toe with angle as far as pure wrestling ability. And what he's become now, I mean, for better or for worse, I mean, it's a fraction of what he used to be able to do.
00:40:46
Speaker
I think one of the best things about this match is that they tease you with things like where, if Eddie's gonna win, it's gonna be because he cheated. Right. And that not ending up being the case. Right. They both had, you know, kind of cheating, what do I want to say, like sneaky moves and then like Goldberg, Spears, Lesnar, and you think, oh shit, Eddie's gonna win.
00:41:10
Speaker
the title because Goldberg fucked Brock. Right, but it doesn't happen. Eddie gets an actual pin.
00:41:18
Speaker
That was something I definitely wanted to talk with you about. I thought that was such an important compliment to give because like you said, they very easily could have had Goldberg come down spear Lesnar and that's how Eddie gets the win and they could have walked out of there. But they let Lesnar kick out of that. So he's giving you the clear indication that Lesnar still had life in him and Eddie took that.
00:41:42
Speaker
But I guess he did the spot with the, he teased the spot where he was gonna use the title belt to knock Lesnar out. Dropped it, Lesnar picked him up for the F5 and he DDT's him onto the title to set up the Frog Splash. Just kind of an emotional, like I always tear up a little bit when I watch the end of this match. I know that sounds dumb. It's been, god, so many years since Eddie passed. I think it was October, November 2005.
00:42:12
Speaker
but this one I always go back to and I just think about like there was a group of I mean they were a group of WCW rejects that went over to WWE and after like some of the heavy hitters left after Steve Austin had to retire after the Rock had basically left for Hollywood. Lesnar was in the process of leaving a lot of the big names left and this match kind of
00:42:35
Speaker
before Ben Wall won it, you know, a month later, uh, over on raw at WrestleMania 20. I mean, this, this was something that people didn't see coming and, uh, it's emotional. I, I, this is a great match. If you haven't watched Lesnar versus Guerrero at no way out 2004, you need to get on that because that's some classic pro wrestling. Just Brock Lesnar with his bloody nose screaming, just die.
00:43:03
Speaker
Yeah, what did you think? Did this live up to the hype that I could probably build it up with? It did. I mean, do you know the runtime of the match? It was much longer than I would have expected it to be, but that's based off of current Brock Lesnar that I'm ranked.
00:43:20
Speaker
I loved it. I loved it. Beginning to end, great match, great storytelling. I really, like I said, main thing to me is that they let Eddie win without cheating, but kept making you think he was going to win by cheating. To me, that was the best part of it. Solid match. Good shit. Dives into the crowd after he wins the title. This happened at the Cow Palace, man. You've been there. And I actually remember before I went to the Cow Palace even saying that's where Eddie won the title.
00:43:47
Speaker
Well, now you've seen that match. Well, here we go. I watched Takahashi die there. You basically did. Okay, at this point, like I said, I'm probably not doing Mania Weekend. But if I knew that there was even a slight possibility that Takahashi showed up, like made his return at Madison Square Garden. Would that change things? I think it would.
00:44:13
Speaker
but because you don't know that. I still miss the guy, but we've had no updates unless New Japan is done, because I haven't been on wrestling internet in a few days. So why the fuck are you listening to this podcast? So last week, we went back in time. We covered the very first WrestleMania. We kind of kept the ball rolling this week. You and I went out of our way to watch WrestleMania 2.
WrestleMania 2 Highlights
00:44:42
Speaker
I'm glad that we're staying committed to this project of going back and watching the early Wrestlemanias, because it's been a trip, some of the shit that you were able to get away with on these early shows, man. I'm going to tell you, I was disappointed from the start. What did it this time? Well, this time it was that we just completely missed the opportunity to every single year have Mean Gene sing the national anthem.
00:45:13
Speaker
Why drop that after one year? Why not keep that going for at least a decade? They didn't realize what a good thing they had that first year. What's funny is I believe in the last episode, I said, I think what I actually said was, I figured they were going to bring out somebody cool, like, you know, like Ray Charles or something. No clue that Ray Charles sang it at Mania 2. Boom. And that's where we open. I was happy they heard my complaints and fixed it.
00:45:42
Speaker
Major graphics upgrade for this mania too. Oh yeah the way the way the show starts it felt like I was about to watch America's funniest home videos. Like the music is like those crazy things you do America America this is you. That's what I felt like I was watching. And I got to see the World Trade Center right at the top.
00:46:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. This took place in 1986 April 7th. I don't know who proposed the idea that they do this at three separate venues. We'll talk a little bit about that as we go through this. Although this is kind of an appropriate time to kind of work in some sad news. The guy in the main event of this mania just recently passed away. That was the legendary King Kong Bundy.
00:46:35
Speaker
So, this going back to what I said earlier about, you know, Samoa Joe winning the US title as we get a listener request about a Samoa Joe match from 2005. We were already scheduled to talk about WrestleMania 2 and one of the stars of WrestleMania 2 just happened to pass away, which is really unfortunate. Hulk Hogan really wanted to kill him in that match. Hulk Hogan was kind of a dick in that match, I think.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. King Kong Monday is kind of one of the all time Hulk Hogan arch nemeses. Before we we get on to that I do want to say that well. Well Ray Charles was singing America the beautiful. It's flashing images of like JFK Martin Luther King Jr. And the thing ends on a freeze frame of Hulk Hogan as if he is the greatest figure of them none of these people compare to Hulkamania.
00:47:34
Speaker
I think my favorite backstage segment I've ever seen ever now was from Mania 2 and that was Hulk Hogan training to become Bundy when he ties a barbell around his body and on it it says a hundred pounds but it says that on one of the plates so I don't know if that's implying to me that he is lifting a thousand pounds or if that was supposed to just be a hundred pound one one hundred pound weight but he starts doing pull-ups
00:48:04
Speaker
And Mean Jean goes like, you need to conserve energy. How many of those are you going to do? And he's like, I'll do a thousand. Oh, my God. Can we talk about the fact that during that training segment going into the main event, the one you're talking about, hillbilly Jim is there training with him in his full hillbilly gym attire like like it's like he's at a gym with Hulk Hogan dressed like that.
00:48:31
Speaker
That's commitment to the care. Why would Hogan want Hillbilly Jim in their training with him? I mean, you need a buddy. If you're going to have a thousand pounds around your neck and then do a thousand pull ups, somebody's got to carry out of that room. But Hillbilly Jim is built a lot better than I thought he was.
00:48:50
Speaker
That dude is- I didn't realize how jacked he was because you put the fucking guy in overalls. You put in all this work to get an amazing physique and then they put the least flattering thing they could on you.
00:49:04
Speaker
They opted to, for this mania, do it between three different venues, one in Uniondale, New York at Nassau Coliseum, one at the Rosemont Horizon in Rosemont slash Chicago, Illinois, and then at the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena in LA. And they did it. And this is what's fascinating to me. This is like a three hour show.
00:49:26
Speaker
every one of these places only gets part of a show and I don't know how this worked at the time I don't know if they if they were showing the other parts of the show live like on screens the arena I assume they were they had to have been but they started in New York obviously and
00:49:44
Speaker
I don't know who got the best segment out of the three. I feel like Chicago actually got the most respectable part of the show. Why is that where Mr. T versus Roddy Piper in a boxing match was? No, no, that was in New York. What a fucking ridiculous.
00:50:03
Speaker
Garrett, have you ever watched an actual boxing match? I have. Yeah. At what point during a boxing match do you see the fighter drop his gloves to his side and let the other boxer just straight punch him right in the face a couple of times? Well, I have seen that, but usually that person loses during their cotly. Oh, man. If you want to fall down a fun rabbit hole, watch just YouTube celebrating too early. Oh.
00:50:31
Speaker
if you wanna feel good about yourself. Yeah, there's a lot of cocky people. But yeah, this was a weird 14 minute boxing match. Did you give a shit? Cause at first I was like, I think I really give a shit. And as it went on, I realized I don't really give a shit. Cause you don't give a shit about boxing and you think it's cause it's not, it's boxing, but it's not real boxing.
00:50:55
Speaker
It's worked boxing and it's between Mr. T and Roddy Piper. And the only reason I kind of had any interest in this at all was because Piper was involved. Piper's promos on this show were fantastic. He was fucking excellent. Like as a heel, that guy was cutting just such a great promo.
00:51:20
Speaker
But also on the New York portion of the show, you got Jake Roberts breaking out the snake against George Wells. Which, Jesus, I know this match was only three minutes, but it's kind of fucked up how he treats that snake. He just kind of lugs him around, tosses him around. Well, he wraps it around George Wells and then basically is just slapping the snake trying to piss it off to choke this guy to death.
00:51:45
Speaker
For all you know, Jake was really trying to get it to kill him. I had felt like that. And then eventually he just pulled it off. Like maybe George was just like, no, he's fucking killing me. This is stupid. I'm a pro wrestler on the second match of the New York portion of the show. You get Randy Savage against George Steel, George, the animal steel for the Intercontinental Championship. I think when I saw Savage come out, it finally dawned on me like, OK, this is mania to holy shit. Look at some of the names that are appearing out at this show.
00:52:13
Speaker
like some of the who's who legends of pro wrestling are on this show and I didn't realize that this early in mania's history you were going to get to see savage and hogan and and and piper and andre and god just the hearts the bulldogs like and never mind that
00:52:34
Speaker
We talked a little bit about how they incorporated celebrity into the first WrestleMania. They went fucking ape shit for Mania 2. We got Joan Rivers. We got Elvira.
00:52:48
Speaker
We got Aussie Osborne. Fucking Lou Albano was still out there with his shitty face piercing. That won't go away. We had a female on commentary with Vince McMahon the entire show. That is correct. That is absolutely correct. I thought she was great.
00:53:07
Speaker
I thought she was great too. Are you gonna downplay the fact that Elvira was on commentary for the entire third portion? Well, I just felt bad for Elvira because it felt like she was getting- She was out of her element? No, it felt like she was just getting sexually harassed by Jesse Ventura. Like at one point, this isn't exactly what he said, but this is how it felt. She's a bitch because she won't go on a date with me.
00:53:34
Speaker
That was the vibe he was putting out. Like it was just, it was weird. It made me uncomfortable because she didn't know how to call wrestling and he wanted to fuck her. And so they're setting up the cage for the main event and Jesse makes some comment about like, dude, is this what your house looks like? And she's like, I've got a room in my house that looks like this cage. Yes. And it's like,
00:54:04
Speaker
Oh. She's still a bitch. God damn it.
00:54:13
Speaker
Although it does make me, I don't know if it's a good wrestling strategy to bring in people who aren't wrestling people to do commentary, although for an entertainment factor, I'd say bring it on. Give me some more. I love it. Bring in somebody who doesn't watch it all, but is funny. Get Jack Black just very stoned and put him on commentary and I am gonna have him.
00:54:40
Speaker
Oh fuck. It was wild seeing Ozzy Osbourne out there for the tag team titles with the British Bulldogs against the dream team of Brutus Beefcake and Greg Valentine. This was a good match and it was funny though because after the British Bulldogs won and Ozzy's in there celebrating with him
00:55:02
Speaker
Somebody asked him, are you going to be in their corner for more matches in the future? He's like, yes, yes. I'm going to make a bunch of these. I'm pretty sure it never happened again. He's one of those fans that, you know, the first time you go, you get really hyped on it, but you don't have anyone to follow up with you to try and bring you again. Yep. So you just later, later on that night around midnight, the hype kind of wore off.
00:55:24
Speaker
Oh yeah, as he was doing drugs back at his house, he completely forgot about WrestleMania 2. Can I tell you though, opening match Don Morrocco versus Paul Orndorff? When I saw Don Morrocco, is it weird that my first thought is, oh, he's a grownup.
00:55:44
Speaker
Wait, what? I was like, he looks like a grown man. Yeah, he is. Can you picture a world where Ricochet wrestles somebody that looks like Don Morocco? No, not at all. See, now I get what you mean. I'm just meaning like ... You're saying that's a man's man. That is a big guy. That's like, yeah. Don Morocco looks like all he can do is wrestle.
00:56:09
Speaker
Ricochet looks like he could star on an ABC Family show and be mega successful and not have to kill himself. But he is good at it, so he does it. But Don Morocco, he hidden on ABC Family. That is a fucking man that is just there to fight. Did you happen to watch any of the WWF versus NFL Battle Royal? I did not, Derek. I only got, yeah, I was in a car accident, so I'm just gonna use that as my excuse.
00:56:39
Speaker
That's fair. He played that as long as you can. I was, it's only going to help you on this episode. So this, if you haven't, this was actually kind of entertaining. They, they put a bunch of NFL players in a battle Royal against a bunch of WWF guys. And under the giant ultimately ends up winning this thing, but you got William, the refrigerator, Perry is a star in this, you know, they're doing it in Chicago. So he gets a huge reaction. How do you feel?
00:57:07
Speaker
about them doing this at three different venues. Let's talk more in depth about this. Kind of a ballsy decision considering if you paid for a ticket to one of these shows, you only got part of the show. I don't know how the ticket pricing worked for Mania this year. I don't know if they had other matches that you just didn't get to see. I don't know if there were dark matches. I don't know. I would almost guarantee that they watched WrestleMania on the big screen and then watched matches sometimes.
00:57:38
Speaker
But the way this was split up, was there basically three main events? Yeah, yeah. Every one of the arenas got their own little main event. Like the New York portion of the show got Piper versus Mr. T in the boxing match. The Chicago portion of the show got the tag team titles as their main event. And then the L.A. portion of the show got Hulk Hogan versus King Kong Bundy.
00:58:05
Speaker
So and I mean some of the people on the undercard like I maybe I'm an asshole. I don't know who the fuck uncle Elmer is.
00:58:15
Speaker
Do we need to do a deep dive in? Oh my Lord. I just clicked and looked at a picture of him. Uncle Elmer versus Adrian Adonis. I mean, this was a throwaway who gives a shit match. I mean, maybe at the time this was a thing, but fucking test of time. I don't think it speaks too well on the fact that this was the on the LA portion of the WrestleMania two.
00:58:37
Speaker
Card it's this is this weird the reason I bring it up is because I had mentioned to you They could possibly do this today and get away with it That seems like some shit they would pull now like I think they would love to sell double the tickets to any of these shows or triple I'm just saying that like you could even do I mean fuck well, how long does WrestleMania now? It's like six seven hours, right? Yeah
00:59:02
Speaker
You could literally do like two, two and a half hour shows. And you could do like an international WrestleMania. Maybe they start in England. Maybe they do New York and then maybe they do LA.
00:59:15
Speaker
I think the only thing that would be hurt and that's a time difference. Well, but that's what I'm saying. Like if not that, they could do something similar.
Modern WrestleMania Speculations
00:59:23
Speaker
Like it's, I don't know if it was just, I mean, it seems like it was a pain in the ass and it seems like it was a cluster, but it seems like it could be something to be a lot easier to do in 2019 as opposed to 1986. Oh, I'm sure.
00:59:34
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I would want to go to that unless I mean if they split it up and like had Smackdown has its section of mania. Raw has its mania over here. You get two main events and you actually treat it as such. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I personally wouldn't love that because I want to see all the wrestling if I'm going to it. You want to see all the wrestling but then you want to bitch about it being seven hours long.
01:00:01
Speaker
I'm not coming at you personally. No, you're coming at me. I don't know if you heard about this, but I was in a goddamn car wreck yesterday and now you're still milking it. You said to milk it as long as I can. That's I did say that I'm not going back on it. You're getting chopped, though.
01:00:19
Speaker
by Lowell. I don't really have anything else to add for this episode, man. If you want to get out of here so you can go recover and lick your wounds. Well, I still have to fucking edit this shit. This is going to be another one that comes out right at the wire.
01:00:34
Speaker
But I do before we go, I want to wish a happy birthday to our buddy Luke from the band Hearts Like Lions. It was his birthday a couple days ago. Happy birthday, buddy. And also- Happy birthday, Luke. Luke, for their band Hearts Like Lions, you should go check them out. They were releasing a t-shirt with the New Japan logo in their band's name. Look pretty sweet. He's sending us a couple of those on his birthday. Are we the assholes now? I feel like it. Yeah, we are.
01:01:03
Speaker
Luke, I'm sorry, I was in a car wreck. Are we gonna go ahead and just set up the fact that we're gonna watch WrestleMania 3 for next week's episode? It auto-started for me after I finished Mania 2, and the second I saw that stadium, I was like, okay, this was the first WrestleMania. This was the Empire Strikes Back.
01:01:26
Speaker
This is where it really got big. Wait, so it's no, no, it's three return of the Jedi. I'm not talking about it like that. I'm just saying that there was a huge leap in, in the universe expansion between a new hope and empire. Look, we're talking about Star Wars at the end of a pro wrestling podcast. Can you at least say that you're like, man, this is the house party two of wrestling. This is the pajama jam. This is where shit got real. WrestleMania three. Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll review that and we'll talk about that next week.
01:01:54
Speaker
Before we go Derek did you see that there's a big match happening about an hour and a half two hours from you? It's happening in South Bend, Indiana
01:02:06
Speaker
and I wanna see this shit. Like, this is enough for me to almost, I might, I don't have a fucking car, so I'm not driving, but I would if I had one. No, did you see, for Jordan Grace's birthday, she's requested to work with the king, Nick Gage? She is fighting Nick fucking Gage on her birthday. I did see this. I did see this, Garrett.
01:02:33
Speaker
They're gonna ruin each other. They are! This is going to be very cringy, and if there's a way for me to... If they were live streaming that, I would buy that shit immediately.
01:02:45
Speaker
Also last week for WrestleMania 1, something I had written down that I never got to talk about is how often they used the phrase, he got Pearl Harvard. What? They said that multiple times. Any time somebody was attacked from behind and goes, and he's Pearl Harvard from behind, or Andy's Pearl Harvard or some shit. And I was like, this really dates this. That is a phrase that just kind of gradually left. Yeah.
01:03:12
Speaker
Yeah, you don't hear Corey Graves saying that shit.
01:03:19
Speaker
Oh my god, Coley, Pearl Harbored him. Fuck it. Okay guys, thank you so much for listening. Check us out on the social media. We're at Wrestle Hangout on Twitter. We're at Predetermined Podcast on Instagram. We're at Wrestle Hangout on Facebook. I'm at Gartet on social media. Derek is at Halloween helping. Leave us those five star reviews. Rate, review, subscribe. Leave that review. We'll talk about anything you want. Thank you so much for listening. Derek, you got anything else to say?
01:03:48
Speaker
Yeah, hit our goddamn music.