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The Courage to Pivot: Building a Life That Reflects Your Values - with Klara Ganter
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In this episode, Leanna sits down with career strategist and mother of three, Klara Ganter, for a deeply honest conversation about redefining ambition, navigating nonlinear career paths, and choosing a life aligned with your values, not everyone else’s expectations. Klara shares her remarkable journey from corporate leadership to entrepreneurship, what it really took to close the doors on her long-held dream, and why clarity, courage, and strategy matter more than perfection when you’re juggling motherhood and a demanding career. If you’ve ever felt stuck between who you are, what you want, and what the world expects of you, this episode will leave you feeling seen, inspired, and empowered to create your next chapter with intention.
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Check out Klara’s platform Mompire, listen to her podcast The Working Mom Show, and connect with her on LinkedIn.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:04
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Welcome to the Executive Coach for Moms podcast, where we support women who are attempting to find balance and joy while simultaneously leading people at work and at home.
00:00:15
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I'm your host, Leanna Lasky-McGrath, former tech exec turned full-time mom, recovering perfectionist and workaholic, and certified executive coach.
00:00:27
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Hi, everyone. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for joining me today. I am so excited to share with you today's guest and introduce you to her. Her name is Clara Gonter, and she is a mom of three and a career strategist who's transitioned between corporate leadership and entrepreneurship more than once.
Clara's Career Journey
00:00:48
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After building teams, running her own pastry shop, and navigating the chaos of working motherhood, she realized that moms don't need to choose between purpose and family. They just need a better plan.
00:00:59
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Today, through her platform MomPyre, Clara helps mothers design careers and businesses that work with motherhood, not against it. Welcome, Clara. Thanks so much for having me here. And thanks for the introduction. Yeah, as you said, I changed careers from corporate entrepreneurship not only once. Yeah, that that even ah was strange to hear for me, but that's true. So I started my career at a multinational company when I was like 22 or something, more than 20 years ago. And I worked at HR, like in learning and development department.
00:01:37
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And I've worked my way through to, I don't know, regional management or something. But i I felt that this is not the right platform for me or not the right ah angle for me. i felt like I cannot use my skills. There are too many rules. I aim for more freedom. And then I have my first child, my first daughter. And I absolutely felt that this is not ah possible to do this 10 hour per day job with ah with a small baby. So that was absolutely not an option for me. So I tried to pivot to something else and I wanted to be at home with with my daughter, like as many hours as I can. That was very important for me. We waited a really long time, like years to have our daughter. and
00:02:22
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probably because of that, it was really important for me to be at home with her. And in my country, we can be a a little bit longer at home with our babies. So that was great. But I had long-term passion for food, basically, reading recipes and things like that.
00:02:39
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So eventually I turned to this and created my first business. I became a food blogger that was really huge back then. And I used my own cookbook. I had workshops and things like that. And then I finally had the chance to open my own pastry shop, like a brick and mortar shop, which is, ah yeah you cannot do it online, right? So... But at that time, I already had three daughters. so that was not easy to build up a business like that. But I loved It was my long term dream. And i I thought to myself, oh, with 37 at that time, I reached my career goals. You know, opening this shop is huge and and it went well.
00:03:22
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But then I realized after three years that it was just too much. So the shop went really well, but I worked like seven days a week and it was just sustainable with the kids and and everything. And even though this was my dream to do it and it went well and I really loved it and we were successful in and everything, it was a small family business still.
Corporate to Entrepreneurship Transition
00:03:44
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So I eventually choose to close it. And, you know, many people said that this was your dream. Why didn't you close it? And, you know, what will you do when you are crazy and everything? And I felt that this is the right decision, again, to choose my family and and, you know, to choose my kids against my career. or it It seemed that it's against my career, but it was basically based on my values, what I wanted. And Even though it was professionally my dream, it was still not what I wanted in my life, so to say. So I realized that.
00:04:18
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And it's a funny thing because the I closed it and the last day we were open was January the 18th, 2020. So basically in six weeks, COVID came.
00:04:29
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I probably had to close it anyway because it was, you know, a brick and mortar shop. It was, we had lots of weddings. All of weddings were canceled in this year. And, you know, it's just not possible to homeschool three kids and bake cakes at the same time and deliver the to homes and It was not the case. And this was kind of the, you know, the lottery win in my life. And then I realized that I choose my family and life kind of rewarded me for that. Still, I could make the decision to close my shop on my own. and not because of any outside things. And and it was great. And by that time i I again worked in the corporate world. So I decided, OK, let's close this chapter. My passion was food and baking and cooking. But I just closed this chapter and went back to ar in the corporate, this time in a smaller company.
00:05:21
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It was still an international company, a German company. But I became then a people operation manager. And and I was responsible to make the whole organization working smooth and processes. It was a complete chaos. And I loved this, you know, to make something from the chaos. And after a few years, I realized that it's great. I loved it. I climbed the ladder again and I gained again a lot of experience. I could use my skills, language skills. I speak also German and German. And it was great, but somehow it was meaningless, so
Balancing Motherhood and Career
00:05:57
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to say. So, you know, when you reach the age of over 40, then you kind of start to think about, let's do something meaningful. And I'm rather the entrepreneur type and not the employee type, so to say, because I think there is a difference in that. It's not a sharp line between it, but I feel better if I i can make my own decisions, if I can make chase my own goals. And then I thought that, okay, but what's next? And I thought about, okay, let's do with me the same what I do now with moms. Let's do a clarity check, right? and And, you know, let's make a strategy and let's have a vision. And then I realized after making all this on myself that what am I good at and what is my experience? And I realized that what I'm good at is ah basically balancing this motherhood thing because I always choose my career based on my values. So somehow it was natural to me, but I know that for many moms, it's not a natural thing to balance everything. And maybe they don't have the opportunity or the knowledge to to choose the right career for them. So I eventually, with my HR background and recruitment background and working with people and building businesses,
00:07:13
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And having all these skills, I thought that, okay, let's let's make a business. Let's help moms to finally understood what they are for, what are their purpose. Because after motherhood, everything changes, right? Or values, the corporate world might not seem that that's shiny anymore. There are lots of compromises we have to make. So I turned eventually into that. And now I'm i'm super happy with that. And and I'm doing that.
00:07:39
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Wow. Thank you so much for sharing that. And I think it's always so interesting and helpful to hear people's career paths, especially when they have these like pivots and changes and unexpected kind of twists and turns where you're like, wow, looking back and kind of mapping it. It's so interesting.
00:08:00
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And I have a million questions. I think that often people feel like They're in a career and they have invested so much time and maybe education and blood, sweat and tears. And then they're like, I can't throw that all away.
00:08:19
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Right. Like I can't just up and leave. And you have made these pivots multiple times. And I guess I'm just wondering, like, how do you think about it whenever you think about,
00:08:32
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making a change. Is there any of that kind of, um I've invested time and that would be throwing it away thoughts? Or is it scary when you make these changes? Or is it just like, I know this is what I need to do and it's an easy choice?
Career Choices and Personal Values
00:08:48
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I think somewhere in between. Yes, it's scary to build something again from scratch, but then you realize you are not building something things from from scratch. And I don't think that you throw anything away. It's more like when you move houses, for example, you don't throw any everything away. You sort it out, right? You maybe leave things or you you think through, okay, this I haven't touched for years. Maybe i shouldn't bring it with myself. And also there are things that you don't like and you just leave it for the next owner or just throw it away. And there are a lot of things that you take with you and it just continues to live in ah in a new environment. And I think that our skills and experience is just the same. So even though you maybe work in the corporate world,
00:09:36
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You can be a business owner and take those skills, maybe not all of them, but maybe you don't even like all of them. And you can repack it, so to say, and bring it to your next chapter because there is nothing that you have to throw away. So not even education, not even education. corporate or any kind of experience. So in my case, yes, I cannot bake cakes in a corporate job, obviously. So this kind of knowledge, I couldn't take it with me, but it was not necessary. i i did This remained a hobby and my family is super happy.
00:10:10
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you know about. But also I had lots of experience building up a business, recruiting people, having performance evaluations with creating my own workflows and and processes basically in a small business. And for example, these I completely could use when I became a people operation manager and and had to build processes from scratch. This was a great experience. And if you see those two ah workplaces, You might see nothing common in them, but that's not true because I'm the common in them, right?
00:10:45
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Where I can take my skills. And yes, sometimes it's scary, but for me, um and I try to explain that for my clients as well, what is more scary to stay in a workplace that you don't like and where you cannot...
00:10:58
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have the full fulfillment and the purpose that that you are here in this world for or start something new. And if you break it down, it's not even that scary because, as I said, we take a lot of things with us to the next chapter, whether it's another corporate job, but even if you have the same position in another corporate job, you still change a lot because maybe it's the it's in another part of the city or new people or new rules, new processes. So a lot of things change, even if you see that your work is kind of the same. But if you pivot from a corporate job to a very different area, then it's the same. You take a lot of things with you. But also if you own a business and leave the corporate world, you can take a lot of experience with you. So there is no wasted education and and experience in my eyes.
00:11:48
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Yeah, I love that perspective. And I think when you were talking about like the house, that makes total sense to me. I love that metaphor because every time I move houses, please let the windows be the same size so I can take my curtains with me. Or these curtains that I don't really like anymore, like please make make it so that I don't have a window that fits these so that I havet have a reason to get rid them. Yeah, to combine you once. Yeah, you like pick and choose. Like, am I going to take with me to the next place? And what am I going to leave behind? and
00:12:18
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I love that perspective. I'm curious about when you said, you know, everyone was saying to you, by the way, it was so interesting to hear you talk about, you know, when you're making changes and people are saying like, you're crazy, what are you doing? And I think that that is something that so many of us have to be prepared for because not everybody makes the same kind of decisions, right? Not everybody understands like the full spectrum of what's happening within us and our values and what you know, how we're feeling about things. And so of course not everyone's going to understand our decisions, but I'm curious for you, this concept of like, this was your dream. Why did you close it I would just love to hear more about that for you of like, how did you do that? You know, you like achieved your dream at 37 and, and now you have to close it. Was that a really difficult decision for you? Was it just like crystal clear? What was that like for you?
00:13:16
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I mean, that was that was obviously not, you know, waking up on a Monday and and saying, oh, closed.
00:13:24
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But it it was a process because we were in this this flow to have a lot of weddings and baking cakes and events and and things like that. And that was this dual thing in me that although I love to do it and I love my customers' reactions and, you know, they're calling me, it was great and they never had such a great experience and all these positive things. But on the other hand, I was feeling that I don't see my kids and it was great.
00:13:51
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It was really hard. It was a battle in me, basically, in my head constantly. And my my husband was super supportive. So it was not that I was on a leash or something that I was, was I had to go back or something like that and and leave my workplace early. It was all all great. But it was really a battle in me and and I wanted to be a mom. I love my kids. I like motherhood. I like to spend time with them. I like to see them grow up. As I said, it was constantly something felt wrong, basically, even though I had success and I loved what I i did. And then I eventually started to think about what is my problem? Why I'm not happy, basically. Why I'm only happy when customers have positive reviews and then I go home and and I'm not really fulfilled with my success. And then I started to think about, OK, what really what is wrong with me? And then I came to this that, yeah, probably my mother's side was not
00:14:48
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fulfilled completely. And I felt really that that I don't spend enough time with my kids. So when when we, you
Societal Judgments on Motherhood
00:14:56
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know, when sometimes I'm working mothers, we talk about working mothers and and we we mentioned that, oh, kids need you, but we need our kids as well. And we sometimes forget this this part, that it's not only the kid who needs the mom, the mom needs the kid as well. emotionally and and in many ways.
00:15:14
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So I started to explore my options. Okay, if I close this because we put money in that and we bought the place. I mean, it was also a kind of a real estate investment. So that that was turning out well because we saw it. But but still, you know, there there were many things involved.
00:15:32
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And I thought about ah what could be my next step. I explored my option. I went to a coach as well while while I still ah was working in a pastry shop. And I explored, okay, because I was not in the corporate world for more than 10 years. So I thought that, okay, I don't even know how to write a CV, right? but What is the new trend? How would you do that?
00:15:53
Speaker
And what am I good at? So I basically did the same kind of clarity thing with the help of a coach and and whether I'm, is it possible for me to go back with 40 years? I was 40 at the time. to go back to the corporate world. So it was from the outside, it might seem that it was ah a decision out of nowhere, but it was a really strategic decision. And as I said, when I closed the shop, I already had my almost signed contract for my next workplace. So transition was basically pretty smooth from the outside. It seemed that I just went and closed it, you know, but once I made the decision that, okay, this cannot go on like this, because
00:16:35
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Even though we have dreams, we sometimes don't know how these dreams work. In real life. In real life, yeah. And sometimes we just, oh, I want to have a pastry shop. Yeah, but what comes with it it's sometimes not, you know, realistic. And so when I made the decision and I thought, okay, this this has to end and I already saw my next step kind of. It was easy.
00:17:00
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I really needed this strategic path to go and to see, okay, what could be my next step? Even though when when i I decided to close it, I haven't had my next job, but I knew what was my angle. So that is also what I kind of teach ah to my clients that you don't have to immediately that that's a process that that can be one year or or a few months. But once you see your next step or see the light in the end of the tunnel,
00:17:27
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It's so much easier. And when you see the steps, what what steps you have to make to quit or to, you know, reach the point to finally kind of really close it, close the door, ah then then it's ah it's an easy thing to do.
00:17:41
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Yeah. think it's so cool how like the universe always has our back and obviously the universe was like, perfect timing. Probably I was the only person in the world who was happy about this whole thing.
00:17:55
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Well, yeah, I mean, because it would have been a very different situation if you had been forced to close it. And I'm sure it would have felt a whole lot worse to be forced to close it.
00:18:06
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at that time, you know, it would be probably impossible to gather myself mentally and and with my confidence and everything. So I really support those decisions. You have to be brave at some point because it sounds crazy, but it's a brave thing. But as I say, it was a really realistic decision. So it was, ah but not like jumping off the cliff. I was really supported with a lot of things. You know, I had ropes and everything and and the trampoline waiting for me. So it was not not like jumping off the cliff. It was a strategic path that I went went through. and um And with that, it felt more easy. People say, yeah, you are brave. No, I think things through. It's not. It's a exploring your option and find a way that that finally fits you. And and this is maybe it's brave. I don't know.
00:19:01
Speaker
But it's more like the right thing to do. her Yeah. Or maybe it's a little bit of both, or maybe it doesn't feel brave when it doesn't feel hard, like when it's so clear. yeah I remember, yeah, when I left corporate, I took a two-year career pause and it was the same thing. It was just so clear to me. And some people around me were very supportive and some people around me were like, what? because Yeah.
00:19:25
Speaker
Having been like a very successful career woman and then suddenly they're like, but you're going to do what next? Like, where are you going next? What are you going to do? And the thing you said about that yes, our children need us, but we also need them. And some people said, wow, it's so selfless of you to give up your career for your daughter. And I was like, that's not what I'm doing. i am taking a pause. Like it's way more selfish. Like I don't want to miss everything. her childhood. I don't want to miss the experience of motherhood. This is like a life experience that I don't want to miss. Yes, of course, you know, for her too, I know it's good for her too and that kind of thing, but I also don't think it would be bad for her to be cared for by somebody else or, you know, I don't think what we were doing before was bad. I just think it's like, I want to have this experience. I need to enjoy motherhood more than I'm enjoying it now, trying to work 60 to 80 hours a week and balance everything. And so that was what I felt was right for me at that time. So I love that you said that because I think a lot of times we overlook that.
00:20:28
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. People try to judge us from the outside, judge, ah why are you crazy or what will be your next step? They want answers immediately. Because they are yeah confident in themselves and they they kind of have this filter, what they see their lives through, you know, or see you. And if they are scared, they think you are scared as well. And you don't have the answers because they don't have the answers for them themselves. Yeah. And I think it's, I mean, the reality is, is like people are going to judge us if we work because they're going to say, you know, well, if you can a full-time mom, stay at home, why wouldn't you do that? That should be what you want. And then if we don't work for a while, then we're going be judged for that, for not working. And if we decide to open a pastry shop when we have kids, we're going to be judged for that because how could you possibly leave your kids seven days a week? And if we decide to close it, we're going to be judged for that because how could you give up your dream? There's no decision we can make where we escape the judgment of other people.
00:21:29
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It's just like, whose judgment do I care about? yeah but you have to get at at this point in your life when you say that I don't give a shit anymore. but People tell me and and try to judge me for how I live my life and how I live my motherhood, basically. So, yeah.
00:21:49
Speaker
Yeah, and I think for me, it's I wish I could say I don't give a shit at all. I do give a shit a little bit, but I think it's just like I don't prioritize it. It's way lower on my radar and in my list of cares, right, than like how I look at myself and how I live my own life. But yeah maybe someday I'll get to the point where I don't give a shit. I know my grand remember my grandma at 80 would just say whatever she wanted to, and she said, I can say whatever I want. I'm 80. So maybe...
00:22:17
Speaker
We've got a few more years to go before that. But thinking about that time that we have with our little ones, you mentioned that in your country, you're in Hungary, that you have a longer time with your babies. And I would love to hear more about this because myself and all my guests are from the United States. And I think we just assume that it's better everywhere else because we don't have paid parental leave here. you know It's not a federal thing. And so I'd love to hear about what it is. in your country and then what your experience was like with it.
00:22:49
Speaker
It's funny that you ask that because ah ah back to the judgment here, basically you can stay at home maybe for three years as well. so So you can stretch three years, which does not mean that you get your, you know, salary. It's not, you get some kind of money in the third year, but it's really just for nothing. So it's a very, very, I don't know how much is in dollars, but maybe $50 a month or something. Hmm.
00:23:14
Speaker
Which is not even a lot here, so you can buy anything for that. For two years, you can stay at home with with your kind of salary. Maybe it's 70% of your salary, but there is a maximum. So if you if you earn a lot...
00:23:29
Speaker
you still don't get that money. So usually in Hungary, people go back or moms go back to work after these two years because these two years they somehow can can manage with, you know, with the husband's salary or somehow they can. I mean, some go back earlier. You can go back whenever you want. You will be judged more then because here as well is the funny thing that if you go back when your child is two, then you will be judged as why don't you stay at home for this last third year? If you stay at home for three years, then you are not ambitious enough. And, you know, they say that that your children need socializing and things like that. It's the same everywhere, basically. I mean, I work with moms from many places and it's really different. I mean, the U.S. system, I think, and I agree with with you on that, that it's not the best. just ah It's possible.
00:24:21
Speaker
one of the worst. So it's it's it's just crazy. I once wrote a LinkedIn post about that even, you know, dog puppies can stay for more weeks with their with their moms ah as sometimes... ah babies with their human babies. Yes.
00:24:38
Speaker
But we have a different system, but it's still not optimal because we have, I don't know how it's in the US, but in my experience, when I talk to moms, there is a better chance to have part-time jobs sometimes, or, or, you know, it's a bit more flexible, not always, but it's a bit more flexible. We don't really have part-time and jobs. It's really difficult to have, and especially in leadership positions. So for example, for me, It was not an option to work like four or six hours per day in a leadership position. It's just not possible. there There is nothing like that.
Career Exploration and Strategic Planning
00:25:12
Speaker
If you are a very kind of low level employee, employee so to say, then you maybe can have some part time position and be an administrator somewhere and, you know, pushing papers from here to there. But that's, again, for some people, it's not fulfilling enough or their ambition is a bit more, which is OK as a mom, because sometimes you have to step back a little bit for a few years. And that's OK. As you said, you were at home for two years or you made a career path. Think about what's your next step and and to be with your child, which is completely, I think, OK. And we have so much time to work. right in our lives. And those few years really doesn't, doesn't matter whether we are at home or with our kids or, you know, making a pause or do whatever we want. I think it's really personalized how we, we have to live our lives and basically that, but yeah, the system is different, but the emotional parts of motherhood is the same in the whole world. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's just, you know, looking at different systems and how,
00:26:19
Speaker
You know, different places have chosen to structure it is really interesting to me. And yeah, I mean, here in the US, some women go back after two weeks or three weeks or a few days later even, which I think is so sad. It's such a disservice to society, right? Because like that bonding time is so crucial in terms of a baby's development. It's not ready for that. i mean I mean, seeing just really selfish points.
00:26:47
Speaker
I couldn't even, you know, walk after three weeks, birth sometimes and and and I didn't have a caesarean. So it was a natural birth. But still, i mean, lot of things are going on ah here and there. And you don't get up with a flu after three days because you still have fever. You don't go back to work. And giving birth is a bit more difficult for your body than just having a flu.
00:27:12
Speaker
Right. So it's not not human enough. I agree. Yeah. Well, I have loved hearing about your story and kind of how you are thinking about things and approaching things. And I'm curious, is there anything else that you would want to share or tell us about or impart your wisdom, things you've learned along the way or anything like that?
00:27:33
Speaker
I mean, basically just summarizing what we talked about, that there are a lot of options. Sometimes we don't see the options because our brain is just a bit limited in this. ah but But whenever, you know, if someone listens to this and feels inspired it's inspire then feels that, oh I can somehow relate to that. and And if she could do it, I can do it as well. Yeah.
00:27:58
Speaker
I just really um encourage moms to turn to someone who can help them and and to explore more options. That doesn't mean you have to quit tomorrow or today, but exploring options and have your clarity and your vision.
00:28:13
Speaker
I think at one point is necessary because what you said that they go back to work and and do the hustle and everything. And then eventually they burn out. I saw a lot of these things. I went through this as well myself. And, you know, when you have to gather yourself after burnout, it's so much harder than plan strategically and explore your options and and have different opportunities.
00:28:39
Speaker
escape path so to say because a career doesn't have to be linear and in the corporate world it's really like they teach us that you have to climb the ladder and the ladder visually is you know it's a linear thing it's not yeah straight up and down immediately are conditioned to to there is only one line that we can walk and that's it And it's it's not like that, you know, life is not black or white. It's ah it's really colorful if you finally can see see those colors or have someone who can show you with those colour your colors, what kind of colors you can pick up on your way.
Clara's Coaching Services
00:29:16
Speaker
i love it. Absolutely. And I think that is it's so much about how we are conditioned to believe that you know this is the way that we should approach things and that when we get to this point, you know we climb this ladder, we get here and then life will be amazing. And then I think as many of us have learned, like we get there and we're like, okay, okay.
00:29:35
Speaker
I have the pastry shop now. i have the family and I'm looking around I'm like, this isn't how they told me it was going to be. or I have everything on paper, but it's not feeling good. And then it's like, well, then what?
00:29:46
Speaker
In our minds, it's like, well, I can go back down the ladder or I can keep climbing it or i can stay right here. But like, that's it. And I love what you're saying. There's lots of other options besides this. yeah Well, where can people find you and what would they come to you for? how would they get started working with you?
00:30:04
Speaker
They can find me on LinkedIn. I'm now redesigning my website, but usually they can find me there, mompire.eu. And also I have a podcast as well, The Working Mom Show, so they can find me through that as well. We are talking about all things working moms and and lots of inspiring stories from from moms who either... pivoted or still in the corporate, but figuring out their next steps and lot of crazy stuff is happening there. I mean, I'm so inspired by them. It's ah it's really, really a great ah thing to do. And what people come to me for is basically what we were talking about to have the clarity. I'm just redesigning. have a modular training program and it starts with the clarity and it's called Crossroads. ah because sometimes we get to crossroads. we have to see how many paths we have and what is the best option for our next chapter. And I have this module, Carrier Restart, and also from Corporate to Mompreneurship, so I can help with these steps. So those who want to have a strategic plan in their hands, starting from the clarity, those come to me usually, and and i work with moms, so it's...
00:31:16
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whole thing, mother, because I think this is very important. So many people are working with moms, but I think it's really not just a, you know, marketing thing. Okay. My, I niche down and my target group is moms, but I really teach these things through the motherhood lens because it's such an important part of our life, obviously, after giving birth, you cannot just throw it away and have like, okay, let's have a career. You have to align it somehow with your personality and your your motherhood and and your life because kids are there.
Podcast Conclusion
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It's not the flu that goes away in two weeks.
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Because that way I see that moms not only understand their next step, but they also start to enjoy motherhood and see motherhood as a different thing. And And this combination helps them really to level up in in in their quality of life.
00:32:08
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Love it. Well, wonderful. Well, thank you so much, Clara, for coming here and sharing your story with us and giving us all these nuggets of wisdom and things to think about. i really, really appreciate you being here.
00:32:20
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Thank you for having me. Yes. And thank you everyone so much for tuning in and we will see you all next week. Bye-bye. If you're loving what you're learning on this podcast, I want to invite you to come join me for the Executive Mom Reset. We offer both one-on-one and group coaching formats. I created the Executive Mom Reset to help high-achieving moms feel less anxious, more confident, and more in control of their lives.
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