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Glick's House of Glick: Holy Oath
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Glick welcomes Canadian heavy metal artist Holy Oath into the House of Music we chatted about his different music projects creating cool music videos and so much more
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Meet the Guest: English Musician in Canada
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I got to say for now. But anyways, welcome to Glick's house of music. We got a kick ass guest in the building tonight. I'm breaking two rules. I already told him he's English and he's in Canada. It goes against everything I believe in, but but we'll make an exception. I'm going to, and I told him, I said, I'm going to fuck this up. I'm going to screw it up, but we're going to, we're going to do our best. We got from Holyoath and other projects that I just learned about them. We're going to talk about that. Uh,
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your hand. Now, I can't say it as good as him because he's got the accent. What's going on, brother? Welcome. Welcome. much men Thank you for having me. It's really nice to see you. Absolutely. Absolutely. I appreciate you taking a little bit of time out of your evening. ah Working guy. We had to adjust some scheduling, but that's alright. You know, I don't mind. I can be flexible because at the end of the day, you guys are doing me a huge favor coming up here on my show. So, try to be flexible.
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It's it's good to stroke my ego. It's all good. Why do you think I host so many podcasts? Yeah, I mean, I've done one myself actually. Yeah, they are. They're good for that. Yeah, they really are. I mean, I got it. I got a great supporting cast of guys that try to keep me humble, but they knock me down a couple of pegs and then I go by him but and I go by myself because some championship belt just to prove that I'm the greatest of all time. It's great. We're even getting Where do you get a custom belt made? There's a website and and we are not affiliated with them and they are not paying me. It's called trophy smack, trophy smack dot.com.
Trophy Smack: Custom Creations
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they make um they make uh they'll make custom trophies for like fantasy football league uh custom championship rings and they also do belts uh that's you know i i'm my my creative wheels are spinning because like anytime one of my friends insults me from now on i'm just gonna get them a giant belt made that's his biggest idiot yeah right there man that's awesome very example now Yeah. A trophy with something that they've done wrong on it. It's like, yeah congratulations. Yeah. Congratulations. ah You're a check ass. But yeah, shout out trophy smacks and awesome website. The, uh, the first belt they sent me, uh, had some issues with it and I reached out to customer support. It was like, uh, Hey man, I've only had this belt like a month and this, that, and the other things going on. And they're like, well, send us a couple of pictures and I send them one.
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within a day, they're like, no problem. We're pulled your order up. We're going to send you a new one out. And I said, do I need to send this one back? They're like, no, you're good. I was like, Oh, cool. So two boats for price of one that's great. So I'm going to, I'm going to, the second one I'm going to customize myself. I just, again, I got to find the time and yeah, you got to go through wear it out to like a five star restaurant or something in my be might strangle me.
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We've done the show live. Um, at a couple, uh, our Saturday night show, we've done it live, uh, a couple of locations. And I took the belt with me and put it up on the table where we were at. Um, some people thought it was pretty cool. You know, it was a, it was a definitely a conversation starter. Other people just looked at us and looked at me and thought I was a child, but they're not wrong. I am a giant man child. So there is that.
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the my just said, please don't send me the biggest idiot trophy. That's really funny. He's probably the smartest one in the whole thing, actually. so that's and on splendid p Him and his friend Sergey are actually the guys responsible for the last music video we did. It's just amazing. It's like over the top amazing, like too much. It's like but just me. It's little old me. It's like, it's so
Collaborative Creativity
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cinematic. I really love that thing. So they do.
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I'm digging the video man. I like the video for for haunt as well. You know, it's it's like ah and I'm a big horror movie fan and I love the yeah I love the found footage genre and that's kind of what Reminded well, yeah, well i'm glad i'm glad it got it got that across like I think it didn't do so on the like algorithms I don't know how those work at all but like ah significantly less views than the other two and I think it's mostly because it looks like Pixelated but that was on purpose like it's supposed to look like exactly so i'm glad that you got it. That's good Uh, hopefully the other people who watched it did too. That was my other friend. Uh ben clapman his uh wife perish and like they they did a great job on that too. I really like to just like
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like the the the main reason to do stuff is just to get really cool people you already know to help with it, right? I can't do everything. And like I know all these people, they they deserve too much as well. So like I need to, anytime I can, I try and collaborate with people. Like it's, I like that. Yeah, no that's a, a bit that's a lesson I heard. I learned the hard way a few months back. I, I almost crashed some crashed and burned on this podcast and thing. And I had to finally reach out to the guys to be like, I can't do it all on my own. And then they're like, Hey, we got you buddy.
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but yeah yeah yeah know it's It was a super cool video. ah You know, again, I guess it it hit right with me because I'm a fan of that genre of horror movie. I don't know. This is cool. I like it. It's raw. It's gritty. It's it's just kind of like, you know, we don't have a big monster budget, but we're going to still try to do something really cool here. And yeah, I thought it was a story of my life, actually. Yeah. It's like any time like you just I just i've always tried to do what I can with what I have. And it's, uh, to varying degrees of success, but you know, it's, it's always fun. Cause you can always look back on that when you're older and be like, that was fun. That was good. Yeah. but as long as yeah As long as you're having fun at the end of the day, that's all that matters, man. It really is. Yeah. That's kind of, yeah. I think when I was younger, I chased more, uh, like hoping other people viewed it, but like, ah if you like it yourself, I think that's what really comes across with stuff. So if it's honest, right? So yeah.
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if Yeah, you know that's I think it's the biggest thing and it's something that we've talked about a lot on here You know our live shows my you know might not get a lot of views we get more replays in live views But you know we enjoy the live for the people that do come to watch and have that chat But but we also you know as I've always told the guys I said the moment we stop having fun is the moment we stop we we just end everything you know at the end of the day. It sounds like something people regurgitate a lot, but I think it's one of those things that's regurgitated a lot for a good reason. like it's ah But it's it's so ad nauseam that people say it, that it's almost just more like an empty mantra. like You say it and you don't believe it. Eventually, you do start to feel it. If you're actually doing that, you you get what that is, and then you can actually you do actually start to reap some success from it if you you truly are doing something because you love it, and there's nothing really
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you know I don't know. I think the best things have come from that. you know there's like There's so much stuff that you can look to in any sort of avenue of passion where that's kind of led to great human feature feats. right like it's um yeah but The one that comes to my mind is like ah the guy who, the ancient city of Troy, like that was that was like myth forever. But then the guy who was like so passionate about trying to find it that he just went out there.
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I don't even think he had like the professions to like do that or any money behind him, but he's the one who found it. And you know, now we know Troy was a real place. It's a super cool stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you know, and as long as you and as long as you stay real, I tell you, you know, that's something we can. Who do you see here on these shows are the same exact people you're going to get in real life. um This is not a gimmick. I'm a big dumb. I'm a big dumb animal. I'm a big sasquatch.
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they said oh is your shirt red Animal Sasquatch is that was a Bigfoot is my that's good i like that ah got object Believe in Sasquatch, I mean you're talking to one so why not believe in it. That's true. Yeah. All right fair enough actually Yeah Yeah,
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yeah no, uh, yeah, I'm real big into cryptids Cryptosuit zoology or whatever you want to call it Yeah, like Bigfoot and ah Nessie, the Loch Ness Monster and, and, and, you know, stuff like that. I mean, I've never seen them, but, uh, I mean, I've also never seen aliens,
Social Media Strategies: Pros and Cons
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but, you know, who's to say that in this massive universe that we live in, that there's not other life forms, you know, yeah so all those drones now, you know, who knows what that is. The aliens are taking a second look one. Yep.
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It's really that bad down here. yeah we We're going to go ahead and and move on. yeah um But yeah, no. you know Ultimately, that's the most important thing is but is just being true to yourself and being real and not not being a fraud like some people like to do and and put on a front and put on a show.
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um
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but you you see And I just learned this. I mean, obviously, I came across your guys' music. I don't know if you guys boosted or it or if it was just in my algorithm because my algorithm on instagram is There's a lot of music and and and random podcasting stuff and and whatnot um for the raven black video ah yeah that was Yeah, I did boost that one. Yeah, um, it's funny when you boost things, uh, you usually get like extremely negative comments for the first like a few hours and then eventually
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Yeah, it's really funny. But like, because again, like we just said, if you like it, I don't really care. if That's fine. If you don't like it, that's just kind of funny. um ah Like you get it with everything I've been doing, like I've been like making art and putting it out there since I was like 14, probably. So, you know, it hurt for a while. And then you start, you're just like, all right, and most people are bored after work, an annoyed probably. And they just kind of want on something. And you've clearly just put money towards this to get it out there. That's the easiest thing to make fun of. I totally get it. It's really funny. Yeah.
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I've never I've never boosted a post. I've thought about it. I mean ah you've done it. Is it is it is it worth it? I mean at the end of the day, I mean I can take the juvenile hate but if You don't mind that it's totally worth it cuz like for every ten people who are gonna be like that's stupid as hell there's gonna be someone who's like I kind of like this and even the people commenting it's stupid as L or whatever they say, right like um it's good for the Algorithm like it's good for all that stuff because people are yeah Interacting with it. Yeah, they're digesting it. Even if they don't like it. It's like good. Tell me that's fine Because now it's someone will argue with you Well, that's a I always got to scrolling through and and I didn't have my volume on it and I just caught the little snippet of the video and I was like The hell is this I want to know what's going on. You know what I mean?
Musical Adventures and Collaborations
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so again, I went to your guys's page and then I went to youtube and I and I but it wasn't until I got to youtube because i'm just
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um I'm focused. I want to find what this video is, what's going on, you know, good and i got to the YouTube channel. And I'm like, oh, shit, this is a band. Cool. And I listened to the song and I'll play it here later on tonight. um And I was like, this is a cool fucking song and a cool video and like, you know, theatrical little, you know, and I was like, hell, yeah, OK, I can get down with this. Let me see what else they got. And then it was like,
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right I got to shoot these guys a message. I got to get them on the show. but but ah but um We appreciate it. we're We're all stoked that you did. So thank you very much. um yeah Yeah, it's like it's one of those things like that. That video was an idea I had with it. And Yeah, the guy in he's in the band now Julian Hoffman, he's actually um super like just amazing with music videos, just like the stuff that he's done. is He has a few YouTube channels as well. He did a ah lot of stuff um back in the day that you might remember as well.
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and Yeah, the way I would just say something that I'm picturing and he totally got what I was saying immediately. It was so good. And we're both really huge fans of Twin Peaks and that sort of old sort of thing. Great show. So we decided that would be great for this song where you're kind of searching for this ethereal woman sort of thing. It just fits the bill of Lynchian cinema.
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Gotta and like, you know excuse to dress up in cowboy hats is really funny. So mostly gonna get Like you know broke back mountain horse the easiest one to go Yeah, we were making the same joke somewhere women we were there so yeah, exactly we've already yeah yeah, we've already done this we've already said it, you know like yeah with it but Definitely definitely got a Twin Peaks Peaks vibe great show you back in the day um But yeah, you know, you you you got a couple other projects. What else have you got your hands in music wise? So this project is probably the the furthest from what I normally do, which is like metal type stuff. So I have a lot of um like my main project that I've been doing since I was like 14, as I say, is um with a guy called Alex Snape. And he's in quite a few different bands. He's in a band called Crimson Shadows. I don't know if you know them at all. um He has his own projects and ah
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you know, just a like beyond fantastic musicians. So like, I've always kind of felt like I need to learn to get up to that same sort of chops. And like, even when we were in like, you know, middle school, I think the first time I went on stage with him, that was middle school and he was like already great at instruments. So I was like, fuck, I got to catch up here. So, so me and him have had a band called Unbowed for ah ever. Like we, we started that,
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um It was like a folk metal project, if you know what that sort of genre is like. So that was under a different name, but we've changed more to like sort of Dimu Borgir type of tech death mixing. It's really hard to place, but you know, that sort of thing kind of our bread and butter. what So it's really, it's funny trying to write music that doesn't just immediately go to like, wow.
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For any time I feel the inclination to do so, ah me and the rhythm guitarist of Unbowed, he's my producer for Holy Oath, and me and him sit there and we really have to like struggle to not turn it into too much metal. like It's like really trying to find a balance between the two.
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So, but yeah, i'd I'd say my main thing is unbowed. Then I have quite a few like black metal projects because it's always just been like ah a passion of mine. I really love that stuff. ah You know, that that fork that happens when you're in high school of like death metal or black metal, we certainly move more into but black metal. um And so I have a few like that. There's a project called here see that we have with a friend of ours in Finland. So we travel up there and we write that in a little cabin. I'm trying to seclude ourselves for at least a week or two. I really like that stuff because it just yeah you're able to come out with when you're just alone with three other dudes in a cabin. Like it's just like there's no distractions. Like there's really nothing around there. um Yeah. So that's that's like a really important project to me as well.
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um And then I don't know if you're ah familiar with like lots of dungeon synths, you know that it's genre at all vaguely I've caught Yeah here and there. um Yeah, I'm gonna be still but you know how you felt like there's like lucky charms But then you can like if you really want to be like, you know slobbish about it You can just go buy the marshmallows yeah and like that for black metal where it's like all the the keyboard interludes if you just wanted a full album of that so i do a few of those too so it's good because it' like it's led to like i've done a few like sounds for people's like like dnd projects and things like that so um yeah
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Yeah, like I play lots of Dark Souls. So there's one project with me and the guitarist of Holy Oath. Actually, we do this thing where it's all based off Dark Souls. So realist like, like, yeah, we just love making music and it's very incestuous. We're all on each other's projects from here in southern Ontario.
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We all know each other pretty well. It's good. That's, I think it's a good, healthy, sort of like, heasty environment for creating. Yeah. You got, you got, your you got your, your core group. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. and Exactly. You guys know, you guys know you, uh, you work well together and you can oh yeah mesh and kind of bounce things off of each other. I mean, that's, you can't beat that when you have that when you're in, you know, some form of entertainment. If you've got a solid community behind you.
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yeah you You got you just got all kinds of stuff going going on. I don't know how you keep it keep it straight ah Someone like friends like oh it like iPad baby brain like very ADHD a lot of the time with my shit Like I really have to focus when I'm doing something yeah like yeah, I get distracted a bit easily So I'm really trying to zone in on one or two things at a time in my um adulthood Yeah, I know how that goes. It's full on ADHD, man. Squirrel, shiny object. I think that's why i i you know that's i think it's why I do so many different types of shows because it's like, okay, i agree I can get my music fix over here. I can get my sports fix here. I can kind of be crazy over here. I can be serious here. yeah yeah ah So i but i we were talking backstage.
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You said in 2002 when I was a child, I gotta ask you, how old are you? I'm 29. Just turned 20. Jesus. Yeah, you are a baby.
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That's really nice to hear. I've been like, ah I've been like, fuck my life. like when you twenty nine It's like a cliff where you're like, but most people I work with in my day job, like work in museums. So like most of them are older than me. Um, well, yeah, well, most of the full time staff are older than me. All the other ones are like way younger. They're like born in 2000 or 2002. Some of them I'm like, holy fuck.
Aging and Perspectives
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What the hell? but when you' full time stuff They're like,
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it's not like you're you're young shut the fuck up but like yeah it's a hard one to get over yeah it's like you know i used to think like that and then i hit my 40s and i'm 43 last week i misspoke and said i was 42 of 43 but i really don't look at though to be honest with you like i was trying to I like legitimately I thought you were just like maybe like a few years older, but like yeah I'm not even i'm not even like trying to fool you there like you trying to butter me up hu what's gone know like i don't know if it's on the show Like if it's webcam quality, it's like it's doing something but yeah I do appreciate that I think I think I'm aging all right, but but I used to think like that man I was like, oh god, I'm um i'm almost 30 I'm getting this so old and
00:25:51
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Oh man, what am I going to do with my life? And now I'm like, forty I'm 43 now. And it's like, man, this is the new twenties. Like, uh, like I'm not, I'm not old. Like, you know, like I've got a lot of life left in me still, you know, I'm sure. I'm sure I've pissed enough people off. I'll probably live to be like 120, 25 or something just to spite them. But, but yeah, man, it's, it's It's not that bad, you know getting, I think it's just all ah you know mental, like a mental thing. You gotta get past that mental block of like, yeah, I still got a lot of life to live. I'm in my prime, man. I'm still able to go do things. but you know um um' I'm a dad, as you've seen before the show. you I got three kids.
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Uh, they're almost grown up. Uh, my son, uh, I'll be, I'll be just shy of 50 when my son turns 18. So I'm like, yeah, I can still go to rock concerts at 50. And then, you know, I can still go do all the things that I want to do yeah get together. It's fucking it's cool, right? Yeah. Right.
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i I remember like yeah the first time drinking with my dad was hilarious. He always used to dive into little pieces of dad lore on me, but like he was like a huge like British like like rock hippie sort of thing. so he was like like do it like yeah he was like super into like hawk wind and bands like that and he's like you know flexing that he used to see them play live at like Stonehenge and I was like fuck sakes dude I was like I'll never get it but I went to Stonehenge you have to stay at the stand like 20 yards away and like you're mostly in a field of people trying to take pictures so it's like this isn't this is not that great yeah this just rocks at the end of the day like i love that stuff set yeah
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I mean it's crazy those rocks though like they came from so far away like I don't know it's crazy how far those came from like it was like a well sure yeah aliens broke aliens man aliens yeah is it they built the pyramids too this unreal sort of math goes on with that stuff yeah I guess if you have the time but like yeah all right I mean Back then, i I mean, what was going on? It's not like they had TV or, you know, yeah yeah you know the Internet or they're like, hey, I'm going to put three rocks together somehow, sit down and avoid the
Historical Architecture: Then and Now
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Black Plague and and and and and invading crusaders and whatnot and do some do some math here, do some geometry and let's see how we can make this happen. It's a cool design, you know, considering how old it is. Like it is one of those things that goes, how the hell did they do that?
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because obviously today you just get a crane and you you set things up and and you know but yeah ancient marvels man ancient marvels we were talking about that a little bit before the show the architectural work out Europe and whatnot it's it's it's amazing it really is and uh think about how old those countries are and you know when when like some of those castles and stuff like that were being built it's just like you just living in the world we live in today, it's hard to imagine them being able to build a structure like that without the equipment and the heavy machinery and everything like that. Yeah, one thing that I've been like, looking at lately, like the, like the the coolest shit's usually built at a certain time of all civilizations. And then like, as you get kind of sort of lazier, that's when it starts deteriorating. And like, ah
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You know, if you watch shows like ancient aliens, that's usually like when people are like, Oh, that's when the aliens left. It's like, well, it could just be that we just get lazy too though. Like you get to a certain time and you're like, ah,
00:29:36
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Well, we're good. We're like eating. Everyone's fine. You know, I think people just kind of slow down. And it's the same with our architecture, right? Like we were talking before the show, like, if you look at like old um city halls, they look great, right? But then now it's like, well, let's just kind of make like a big other building. like and yeah I think it's less to do with cool shit and more to do with like boring shit. Probably it's like logistics, right? It's just like, well, just, uh,
00:30:02
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Let's just be kind of this. We might get rid of it soon. So yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, you, you look at some of these houses and you know, America's a baby country. We're only like three, 400 years old, but you look at some of these houses and, and I used to live down in Charleston, South Carolina. And, um, a lot of the old houses down there on the, uh, you know, downtown on the battery and stuff like that. And these houses have withstood earthquakes and fires and war and right and earthquake or hurricanes that smash right into them. And now you look, I call the houses today, they're matchsticks. You know, they're they're just like built with, you know, a stiff breeze comes through and you lose half your house. People built stuff to last back in the day where to today it's more about mass production and making a quick dollar, you know. and And it's just like, it's kind of sad because we'd even here in my my little town that I live in,
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Um, you know, it's, it's about 200 years, a little over 200 years old and we've got some older houses. Absolutely gorgeous. But then I would say like, you've got newer houses and it's just like, it's kind of lazy bill. And I'm a construction guy by trade. Like I, you know, I've, I've built houses and I've actually walked off of, I've walked off of jobs because ah quality of the bill. And I'm just like, I don't want my name on this. You know, like, okay.
00:31:26
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I did some renovations in like university and then after that I got into blacksmithing so I was in like a like a living history sort of situation um like nothing like the American ones like you guys have where it's like I'm the blacksmith but it's more like a third person sort of thing where it's just like oh this is what they would be doing I don't live here. No, like you eat things like that. but After that, I got into more um like actually installing the galleries and stuff. So putting things up in museum spaces. So similar sort of work. um But yeah, some of the stuff that they build now, yeah, compared to old, old shit, it's definitely, it's a drop off and it's always something to do with like, you know, you got lawyers, you got
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ah finance people being like, this is too much money, you know, stone costs a lot and like stonemasonry. That's like the main thing, right? Like that's what we consider yeah beautiful to our eye because we don't really make that anymore. Whereas I wonder if they actually thought it was beautiful when they were making it or if they, they probably did to some degree, but like, you know, it's, it's all a logistical thing. And then our societies, as you become more Protestant too, right? Like that's a thing, like Catholicism, that's about like decking things out. Whereas as yeah Protestant culture is more like, okay, the church is this woodshed, that's simple. yeah It's a, it's a, it's a place to gather.
00:32:48
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Yeah, we carry a lot of that sentiment over more than we think in our subconscious too, right? Like it's like, okay, well, let's not be too, let's not go overboard here. usually Like definitely something that's entered corporate America or North America. It's like,
00:33:04
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Um, or if they do go extravagant, I find it's like in like a really postmodern sort of ugly, barfy glass windows sort of way. Like I don't really love that stuff much, but maybe I will when it's like, you know, maybe people in the future will love that the way we do, but yeah I don't know myself personally. Yeah. Hard, a hard pass for me, but, uh, but I'm also still that I have that, you know,
00:33:29
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with the architecture on the designs. And i so I love that stuff. So in my head, I'm like, I want to build that. you know like And it would be so much easier to build today than what it was.
00:33:41
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800 years ago or 1000 years ago or, you know, whatever. for sure Yeah. Like I was living in York in England for a brief moment there. And a lot of that church, like you look at it and you go, wow, an old church, but like a lot of the outside of it is constantly being rebuilt, kind of like cells in the human body, like the way we look after that.
00:34:00
Speaker
Like a lot of the old gargoyles are not old. Like there's some student who knows how to do the old traditional way and they're doing it probably better to be honest with you. Like, you know, we only get better at things. So yeah, I will say, you know, one of the, one of the cool things about, and and I'll say for the States that I visited and whatnot or lived in and and whatever, one of the cool things here is a lot of States,
00:34:26
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once Once a house is on the historical registry, right? Excuse me. Um, anything on the exterior has to be as close to the original as possible. If you do like a, right? We treated our remodel or something like that. Um, I don't know. Like when I lived down in Charleston, they, you could, you could modernize the kitchen and bathroom. You basically do whatever you wanted in the kitchens and bathrooms. Okay. The rest of the were at the rest of the houses.
00:34:54
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had to stay as true to the original as possible. ah yeah And especially the exterior. So like certain colors that they use on houses, they would have to order special paint to match it precisely. A lot of guys, I was, you know, talk to a lot of contractors and stuff down there.
00:35:14
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the brick that used to be on like the foundation, what they would do is get underneath the house and pull the original stone or brick out and replace it with new. So they could use that original block or stone or whatever out on the front. So it's still because that's what they had to do per yeah yeah or the the historical registry and their guidelines and their rules, which I thought was a really cool concept because I mean, well,
00:35:39
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It's a lot more expensive for the homeowner. However, if you can afford to buy one of these houses in downtown Charleston, yeah, you're not hurting. You're not hurting for money. I i worked for a pest control company down there and I had a ah customer who bought one of those houses. He spent eight and a half million on it to buy and the Jesus and then he spent another six, almost seven mil on a complete remodel. Right. and i yeah Yeah, you're fine. Yeah. well Yeah, you like it. It's similar stuff down here like um or up here rather. um
00:36:17
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I don't know the exact laws on most of it, but a friend of mine that I used to work with, blacksmithing, his wife deals with that stuff. So like you call up like a certain wing of the government or an agency and they kind of tell you the laws on your house. If ah if you own a historical building, like what you can and can't do to it sort of thing. um Yeah, it's really big in England too. Like again, there was a place in York apparently that this um new company from outside of England, like they purchased this building and then decided they were just going to destroy it. But the building was like from the 1700s. And so they also actually made them build it again exactly how it was brick by brick, just because i like you can yeah yeah so it's a there's a few things like that in Canada too. But like, yeah, for the most part,
00:37:07
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I'm not sure if it's the same or different to the states. I guess it depends on the state too, right? so I think so, because I know I hear where I live. This is where I was born and raised pretty much. um but got It's not as strict, but also you know Charleston is one of those cities in American history that that holds a lot of history. a lot of i mean First shot of the civil wars was Fort Sumter down in Charleston. i During the Revolutionary War, Charleston was a hot spot. It was one of those ah areas that a lot of English and whatnot had came over. A lot of the settlers or whatever you want to call them, they'd come over and and and and and and and whatnot. and then
00:37:58
Speaker
you know, a slavery and the Civil War and everything else, they were the first state to succeed from the union, you know, type deal. So, yeah you know, so they're a little bit stricter on what you, you know, they have a French Quarter down there. And, and after the building, I mean, from the street all the way to your roof is insane. ah And the buildings have got some very, they got some really beautiful hotels down there.
00:38:23
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But, um, you know, here it's, uh, you know, they're not as strict, but I mean, again, it's, it's, it's Ohio. It's right. Yeah. We've got some historical relevance here, uh, obviously with like presidents being from Ohio and, and whatnot, but, uh, underground railroad runs through a good chunk, right? I mean, it runs smack right through middle middle of the high and actually part of it runs through my town that I live in. Um, but, uh,
00:38:52
Speaker
So that they're a little bit more lenient on what you can and can't do. So I think it's state to state, you know, and depending upon the area as well, it might even be city to city. Um, you know, I'm sure Boston, we all know Boston, we all know their historical, uh, you know, I'm sure they got some gas rules in Boston, but again,
Tour Plans and Logistics
00:39:13
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probably. Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:15
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Stupid people, beautiful city. I've i've never been to Boston. Super Irish, right? but' ah Yeah, a lot of lot of lot of Irish. yeah you Just drive through. Just drive through. That's all you need to do. Just drive through. Don't talk to anybody. They're all pricks.
00:39:35
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um yeah yeah for They're all pricks up there. they are right than everybody Actually with Holy Oath for like one of the first shows we were entertaining going to New York. There was a girl out there who was a promoter. She was um saying that people would like us out there. So we might actually go take a a state's visit soon. But yeah, I think, I think, yeah, I think, I think there would be a lot of states, um, that you guys could visit that would enjoy, you know, what you guys do. You got that heavy metal rock, but you also got some like, um, it got a little, uh, little bit of a, you know, ballad sound to it. You know, we'll get back, let's get onto your music. You know, that's one of the things that I told you backstage.
00:40:18
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You know, so this shows this shows whatever happens happens. We let the conversation go on. It's all good, Ben. Yeah, that's that's how I work. But I, you know, I told you backstage your your singing voice. I expected you to sound a lot different and I also didn't know that you were that you were English either. So, I definitely wasn't expected that when you came in. I was like, oh, Jesus, Harry Potter's here.
00:40:43
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go you know like
00:40:48
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but Yeah, i yeah we don't even sound we don't even sound posh up there. It's just like the dirtiest fucking accents. Yeah. Well, you know, I don't i don't know how close you are and ah from where Ozzy and Sharon are, but that... Oh my God. um I think they were Birmingham. I think they were Dummies, as you call it. So if you've seen the Peaky Blinders, that's like... Okay. i think from Yeah.
00:41:14
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that that that accent on on Sharon Osborne. God, I want to throw a brick at her face every time she talks. I can't do it. I can't do it. Born Marston Green. Where is that? That's Birkenhill.
00:41:30
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West Midlands. OK. Yeah, pretty close to Birmingham. Yeah, I thought it is like just from their accent. Yeah, it's like that. It's the industrial. data like Yeah, it's kind of like, even Fran Drescher is the actress. ah Which one? Fran Drescher. No, I don't think I know. No. She's got that real big New York, like a New York Jewish accent.
00:41:59
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Right. it's It's just it's it's like but the like the Italian New York accent is kind of cool, kind of tough guy, you know, that you have like that that the it's just real high pitch, real. ah It's like nails on a chalkboard, man. Oh, shit. Yeah, I can't. yeah Just just just look up like when you're in your free time, look up like a clip of the nanny is an old TV show from the 90s.
Accents and Stereotypes
00:42:24
Speaker
things And you'll kind of you'll get what I was saying. and it's like a oh god it's It's funny how accents can can drive and people crazy. Yeah, I feel like um the more you are around it, if you're not if you don't sound like that, people tend to say psychologically, you get really sick of the accent if you're not from there. um I don't remember it because because when I was so young when I moved here, right? so like ah I feel like I remember my parents saying it was getting on their nerves after a while, just everyone sounding so Canadian and like Canadian sentiments are different to British. see Like British people are a bit more like, you know, they'll just tell you what they're thinking, but Canadian, yeah they're a bit more passive aggressive with how they tell you things. yeah god So, you know, when you when you get immersed in a different thing, it is weird. Like even when I go back to England, I'm like, Oh yeah. Like I feel like,
00:43:20
Speaker
They're all, they all talk more like how me and my friends talk to each other. A little, a little, a little, a little arrogant, you know, the British have that kind of ah like, and I'm sure they're not, you know, doing it intentionally, but a little arrogant, a little proper, you know? Well, that's like a certain, like, yeah, that's definitely more of like a certain action.
00:43:43
Speaker
Yeah, there's different types of people. Like I'm from the North. They're definitely not like that. They really hate those types of people, like the proper sort of sounding people. They don't really, they call them like, yeah, they get, they get, they get mad at them more than anyone else. Honestly, like they kind of think of it as two different countries. It's like, but yeah. Yeah. we We get that. So we get some of that down here in the States for sure. People in the South still think like they live in a whole other country. Some people, it's just like,
00:44:14
Speaker
we're We're six hours away from each other. You're not that far, but but yeah you get like the New York accent. The Boston accent's just gross. I can't deal with the Boston accent for some reason. It drives me it drives me crazy. But um know that is funny. you know like Me being from Ohio, people will be like, oh, Ohioans have accents. and No, we don't have accents.
00:44:40
Speaker
it's What you're trying to say is we, we talk different and we do talk different here. We say silly shit, like you're regardless or we say, Oh, OPE. We say that all the time. I don't even, nobody knows what it means. We just say, it Oh yeah. Oh, OPE. Is that like, kind of like, when would you use that? Like you mean, like you'd be like, Oh, and yeah, but you could use it almost it almost with, you could use it with almost anything like,
00:45:09
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Uh, Oh, forgot to do that. Or, Oh, yeah. yeah very kindgra <unk> a canadian shit i i say long cue I say, yeah. Don't accuse us of being Canadians. Well, well I don't know. It's so close, right? like Yeah. It's like, it it's's it's it really is. I mean, you could go up north of me, up to Lake Erie and and it's like, you could spit and hit Canada from Lake Erie.
00:45:37
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you know, yeah for the most part. like um Whenever we've toured with bands, like a few times from like Wisconsin, like they're basically, they yeah. Wisconsin, Minnesota, ah the UP, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Yeah. ah And, and all them like North Dakota and all them states that are like right on the, they're all Canadian. We don't claim them. They're all Canadian. yeah so don't claim yeah Vermont, right. Yeah. Yeah. Certain parts, you know, Northern, Northern New York. Yeah. they they That's basic basically Canada, you know, at the end of the day. But I mean, that, that makes it cool. I mean, that's gotta to make it cool for you guys being a band to, you know, to basically be a hop, skip and a jump away from, from the States. If you guys get the opportunity to tour.
00:46:34
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Yeah, it's funny. I've never actually done it. I've never actually toured the States. I've been to the States like selling things like, um, for like blacksmithing and stuff, but, uh, for music, I think it's a different sort of like visa you'd have to get. Um, it's something I need to look into because it's a bit different to just traveling. Like yeah they are pretty stingy with that sort of thing. Like they want to make sure.
00:46:57
Speaker
like you're doing it in the correct way. So when we do go, we're going to have to look into all of that. um the band My bandmate Steve, the guy who produces all the music, he's um he's actually been through the States quite a few times with other bands that he plays with. As I say, we're in so many different bands. So it's like he's done ah quite a lot in the band called Invicta. I think they've toured there before. I think I've heard of them. Invicta? Yeah, it's thrash metal. It's good. It's good stuff. Is it an irony?
00:47:27
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ah you ae
00:47:32
Speaker
i might be an idiot i mean yeah yeah they also You know after a while or you kind of yeah yeah yeah i have Okay, yeah, I have seen them I think I've seen them on Instagram I said I said I might be an idiot because there's a watch brand that I actually really like and it's a Oh, right. That was ah but that was the first thing I came up and I was like, oh, I'm stupid. And then I just said, I just had to scroll a little bit. Yeah, I have seen them. I have. I have heard their stuff before. OK, I know who that. is Yeah, really good. Worth checking out. Really cool stuff. They're from Kitchener. So it's the town over from where we're from, which is called Guelph. That's where we grew up. OK. Yeah. Nice, nice. Basically, just the greater Toronto area is what that is.
00:48:22
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like Yeah. okay Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that again, man, that goes back to it. And you get that a lot in the States too, especially like Nashville, um Austin, Texas, um some areas of Florida where music is big and stuff like that. Even here, even here in my little neck of the woods. Yeah. We got a very incestuous, a lot of people working together, a lot of different, you know, you, you, you get a band that's comprised of six dudes that all have three other bands that they're a part of and then they all work together or you know I had a friend of mine years back he he was in a band and they did a little little thing like a little tour around Ohio one summer but it was four bands and all four bands they were all intertwined they all played together
00:49:14
Speaker
Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, we've done stuff like that. Yeah, like the the singer of one band might be the drummer of another band or, you know, or or whatever the case may be, which was cool, because if you're a fan of one, you're more than likely going to be a fan of all of them. So that's a lower you got a deep war going with people. Yeah. Yeah. So, um,
00:49:36
Speaker
For you music wise, is that something that you've always? Actually, you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna get to that in a few minutes I want to ask you about the blacksmith about the blacksmithing.
Blacksmithing: Craft and Passion
00:49:45
Speaker
Are you like? Like actually making stuff like is oh Yeah, yeah for the most part like I started out so I learned from a family friend who was a farrier. So he did like horseshoeing and stuff like that. And so I just decided like I wanted to go around and his son has had actually made a coal forge in their yard because they're a bit more rural. So
00:50:12
Speaker
I learned from him and then through that and being in a history degree, I was able to get a job doing it in like ah like a you know similar sort of situation. ah At that job, it's a village that was set in like 1914. So I couldn't be making anything I really wanted to make. So like I was really, it's like Viking shit. Obviously that was mostly what I went to school for. So I wanted to be making pendants and stuff like that. So I'd make them on the on the slide sort of thing. And then like, you know,
00:50:40
Speaker
Eventually got my own Forge going with two other guys, ah one guy being the son of the guy who taught us. And we're selling quite a lot of stuff on Etsy for a long time. I don't know if you know a band or an artist called Chelsea Wolf, but she actually bought like a belt from me and this other girl called Anna who has a thing called Nui Clothing. so We collaborated together and that was on like the cover of Decibel magazine. So we were like, that's sick. That's so cool. just nice we just thought we were **** around and like having fun. So, once again, that's the best way to do things, right? So, yeah. Um so, for the most part, what I'd say I'm best at for blacksmithing is like making jewelry. Like I make like pendants and things like that. I have made swords and like daggers and stuff like that. Axes mostly. Um but like haven't for a long time. Like if if you were to get me to do it right now, I'd probably be best at like, yeah, like little things like pendants and stuff like that. Yeah. nice no that's the that
00:51:38
Speaker
I can't I I don't do it. I can't do it, but I love to watch other people do it. Actually, um, almost six years ago, uh, at the, uh, Ren fair. Oh yeah. know How well you can see that. Oh yeah. lo near ring Nice. Uh, yeah. I had a, I had actually, I went in and I had this made my, my moaning around my neck, which this son of a bitch is heavy as hell. I was a blacksmith. He, he, he,
00:52:06
Speaker
He made it by hand. Oh, really? Oh, that's awesome. He's good. I kind of gave him a couple ideas of what I was looking for with it. And he was like, come back next week and I'll have it done. He actually had to hand make the but necklace for it because the pendant's so heavy. it's It's all hand braided on the chain. And when I went to pick up my necklace, he was like, ah I made you a little something something else. I'll throw in no no charge. And he had made the ring for me as well.
00:52:34
Speaker
um well and ah freak little Do you know what the material was? What was the material he used? I do not know what the material is, unfortunately. Interesting. Cause that's a lot like very good detail on that. Like it's a, yeah like silver slip, you call it white slip. Yeah, he he's been doing it for, he was an older guy. He's been doing it for years. So I was like, I just, I came up and he was like, Hey man, I had to, uh,
00:53:01
Speaker
had to uh and make a uh a chain and braid it like he hand braided because the pendant turned out to be really heavy. I was like, I don't care. Well, you know, and he showed me the pendant and I was like that. That's awesome. I've had it i like I said about about six years or so now. Um I I freaking I freaking love it. Um I've always I just I'm always been fascinated by forging and blacksmithing and and whatnot. Um yeah. there a show There's a show here that I watch. It's called Forged in Fire. And they basically make just knives and stuff like that. Man, I'll fall into that rabbit hole and I'll lose a whole damn day. It'll be a Saturday. And I'm like, I'm gonna, I got, I got things to do. I'm going to go do this. This isn't it. Let me, let me sit down and grab you some breakfast. I'm going to watch an episode. And the next thing I know it's seven o'clock and I've got to do the Saturday show and I'm like, well, hell. Yeah, know yeah no, you can. It's a, it's very like.
00:54:01
Speaker
meditative to watch it's like a very meditative thing to watch happen because he's just turning something raw into It's really cool. Yeah, I like doing it. It's very yeah very calming to do it's uh Even doing it like it you can spend a whole day and it just doesn't feel like eight hours, but it will be Yeah, it's good shit no i like it It will 100% I would love to I think I think and I would have to have a room and you know When I, when I, when we, when we upgrade out of the the townhouse, we're in there, I want to, I want to aim for a wood shop because I'm i'm a wood guy. Like when I was younger, I learned to do, uh, you know, um, build stuff, you know, tables, dressers, chairs, stuff like that. And I would like to do that again. I just don't have the room or the space or the tools or anything else. For sure. Yeah. yeah but it It does take a while to accumulate it and then the space for it. Yeah.
00:54:59
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I've also often like, I bet I can do forging that I've never done it before, but I bet I could do that. You definitely could. It's just, you'd totally you'd be bad at it for a while, but like if you stick to it, it's fine. Like that's just kind of with everything, right? But I always say it kind of changed my mentality on a lot of stuff, blacksmithing, just because it was like,
00:55:20
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You're really shit at it for a long time. And it hurts if you, you know, fuck up and hold it by accident. So I've got a lot of scars from it as well. Um, but once you finally make something that looks cool, then your whole brain chemistry kind of changes. It's like, Oh, that makes complete sense. It's like the exact thing. It's like, you know, steals just doesn't lie to you. Like it's the same thing. Yeah. Like it's you've either hit it properly. You haven't. That's it.
00:55:45
Speaker
and then Right. Yeah. You either do it right or you don't. Yeah. I think one of the, you know, I think, you know, like you said, you know, you, you found an interest work with the farrier back in the day. And we growing up back home, I, I grew up in the middle of nowhere, podunk ass Ohio. And I was an old farmer that he made his own horseshoes for his horses and stuff like that. Right. yeah You know, you, were one of those older guys that you go down and he had stories from back in the day. And you know, you just,
00:56:13
Speaker
get lost in conversation with him while he was making horseshoes. And it was just, I think I started back then, like, this is really cool. Like, you know, yeah but sports and jobs and girls and other things. Like, I should have pursued that instead of freaking girls probably would have got a lot farther in life.
00:56:37
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Shout out James. What up James? What up buddy? How you doing, man? Um, I want to take a real quick break and I do want to talk a little bit about music yeah and Like I said, I go with the flow of the conversation. You know, that's kind of what this whole show is about is, you know, getting to know you guys, you know, we want to get to know a little bit about your music and your music journey, but I don't want to be in that same stereotypical boring interviewer.
Music as Poetry
00:57:03
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You know, but there are questions you want to ask, but I also just like going with the flow of the conversation because we get to see, uh, you guys, uh, you know, as, as people and not just musicians. that's why better like Yeah. Uh, I would take another break here.
00:57:20
Speaker
Sure. um Downloaded a couple of your guys's songs tonight. Actually, you know what I'll say? I'll go ahead and do this one because we were talking about it. Raven Black, we were talking about it earlier. Super cool fucking video. The song is badass, man. And like I said, you guys, you guys you guys have heard him talking all night and you you might have been listening at the beginning.
00:57:39
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And yeah his his his speaking voice and his singing voice are totally different, man. And I'm digging it. you know i think I think that was one of the things that, outside of the video, once once I heard your voice, it was like, ooh, you have a sound that I like, that I gravitate to musically, whether it's ah whether it's a rock musician or a country musician, you got that kind of deep Yeah. Rasty, gravelly kind of voice. So we were talking about it earlier. Here's Raven Black from Holy Oath. This is our video. We'll be back here in just a few minutes and continue the conversation. Sounds good.
01:02:02
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All right. And now the sheriff's missing. What the hell's going on? He's back. What's going on in Brokeback, Canada? I know. Yeah. Where'd he go? Yeah. that that is ah That is a really cool ah video and a cool song. Like I said, it's it's it's like the the the whole song is just kind of a slow burn, you know,
01:02:30
Speaker
yeah hes it's very it's very uh it's catchy it's it's it's easy on the ears you know yeah it's a little it's a little less medley right so yeah but hey like i said i told you backstage uh what's going on nap Welcome, welcome. ah I told you backstage, ah you asked me what type of music I like. I'm ah um' a music slut, you know. I to, I literally listen to everything, man. It's not so much a genre. You know, I guess if you had to lock me in, I'm more of like ah like a country rock guy. um well but i But I listen to everything, man. I'm not a snob. If something's good and I like something, you know, whether it be a particular band or
01:03:14
Speaker
You know, I'm going to listen to it. and And, you know, and then from that band, I might get turned on to other bands that are similar to them. And then I have a buddy of mine who does like EDM music. I've never liked EDM music. oh yeah him But him and I are super close. We're basically brothers. We're basically family. And from from his style of music, of course, he does a little bit of everything.
01:03:39
Speaker
um Developed a little bit of a a liking of EDM and there's some of it that I'm like, I can't help myself I don't know what's happening to my body. What's going on? yeah i don't mind it yeah i really like some of that stuff so right um hu yeah If you like country and rock type, do you know the Ohio band Bill Murray you ever heard of them?
01:04:00
Speaker
Yes. I have not listened to them in a hot minute, but yes, I have heard their newest. Their new albums, like full on like Country Metal. It's pretty good. I don't want it.
01:04:13
Speaker
um Yeah, I mean, I haven't. Wow, I totally forgot. I'm not even going to lie. By that description, it sounds terrible, but it's really good. It's like, yeah, I really like that stuff. Well, there's there's a lot of bands that got that Country Rock vibe. Yeah. A band that I stumbled on.
01:04:31
Speaker
years ago, well close to a decade ago, maybe a little more than that. Blacktop Mojo, they're based out of Texas. I don't think I know that. And they've got some stuff that's like real heavy. And then they got slower stuff and they got the country vibe. They got the blues vibe. They they just they just just kind of mix, you know, Southern rock. They just kind of mix it all in there and yeah come out with their sound and Uh, they're, they're probably, and and these are guys that I just happened to be listening to a YouTube playlist and yeah they were a similar artists and it was a cover of them doing them doing a cover of, um, Aerosmith dream on. Oh, right on. Yeah. And I was like, who the fuck are these guys? And then the very next video I see as I go to look them up, they were doing the cover of, uh, in the air tonight.
01:05:21
Speaker
and it was just lead singer um and his and his bass player. It was an acoustic thing. They were in this distillery in this big barn and it it was like oh **** I gotta I gotta I gotta listen to everything for these guys and I've been a fan ever since.
01:05:37
Speaker
um But nonetheless, welcome back to Glick's House of Music. I'm Glick, obviously, hanging out with ah John. we'renna We're just going to do that because that's easier.
01:05:50
Speaker
ah ah Johan, yo ah Johan, you got the accent. It sounds like Johan. Yeah, you got the accent. I just sound like a deep shit American when I say yo i and yeah it. It's a hard one.
01:06:06
Speaker
I never judge when people don't get it. It's all good. Yeah. You know what? At least I attempted. I have no problems from Holyo. Yeah. From Holyos and various other side projects. um You guys, if you're following us on Instagram, I got them tagged. I got both of his accounts tagged. So you guys go give them a follow. Actually, while I'm thinking about it, why don't you let everybody know where they can find you guys at?
01:06:31
Speaker
ah Yeah, sure. So we have our Instagram's Holy Oath official. And then I think on YouTube, it's just Holy Oath. um That's our main place. um For my other band, it's official Unbowed on YouTube. And then on Instagram, it's Unbowed official, I think. ah So if you like the the more sort of like power metal type of stuff, I have another project called Anahata or Soul Anahata. And that's very more like a myth and history type stuff. Very faux metal, very power metal-y with a guy called Kyle.
01:07:00
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that I'm friends with out on the west of Canada. And he's super great at music as well. I always try and like involve myself with people who are I consider better than me, just so I can constantly grow. That seems like the best way to you know get proficient at stuff. um But more than that, like you know I think it's important to make music or art with people who are just really cool people. And it just so happens that the people I find really cool I also think are quite better at things than but I. So it's better to just and be friends with cool people. right so yeah um
01:07:33
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He's he's no different, Kyle. Yeah. um So Saul Anahata on Instagram for that one. You might like that. The vocals are cleaner vocals, like the stuff I do with Holy Oath, but way more ah like, you know, like all the higher yeah all that stuff if you can if you can tolerate it. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
01:07:54
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Um, that I will, I will be checking out the other bands. Like I said, I, I literally just found out, uh, you know, about the other bands, uh, just a little bit before we, uh, we, uh, we went on and, uh, I'm definitely going to be checking them out. I want to see, uh, I'm curious to see what other projects you got going on and what other sounds you got going on. Um,
01:08:19
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I think i but at the end of the day, my curiosity, it always gets the best of me sometimes for the good, most of the time for the bad. And I'm actually going to, I think I got them. Hopefully I spelled them all right. I don't know, but there you guys go. Who cut out? I think. Oh.
01:08:44
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Are we there? i do Okay. Are we back? Yeah. I couldn't tell who, uh, if that was me or not, then let me see. Yeah. It might've been, it might've been me. Hell, who knows? All right. Let's but throw this up there. Maybe there we go. Yeah. There you go. There's, there's, there's the projects. There's the bands. not say you're You're on it more than me. There you go. yeah So I got to ask you, you know, I do want to talk a little bit about your music and, and everything like that.
01:09:13
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Um, I gotta ask you, when, when, when did you, you know, obviously it goes back to when you were a kid, you talked about being in middle school and 14 and whatnot. But when was it that you knew like, this is what I want to do? Like I want to be a musician. I want to be a singer. I want to, you know. Yeah, that's a really good question. Um.
01:09:36
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I think more than anything, I've always just wanted to express myself. And I think the first way that comes to me naturally is through, um
01:09:49
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I guess, I would say more like, I'm more poetic. So for me, the music came like a fries to the burger, but like I'm more like I write, like I'm a writer. so For example, this whole project, Holios is based off a book I'm writing. So all night so all the all of the stuff in that and all of the sort of little bits of lore I kind of sprinkle into it, like the music videos, all of that will have to do with the book ideas. And, um, you know, if I was clever about that marketing wise, that would be more known, but I don't worry about it. It's like, I think people will get it if they want to. And like, it really makes me happy when
01:10:30
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you know, I don't know you at all. And you you get the, um the ideas of like, the horror type of thing, you know, that's a, yeah so so for me, I think I knew almost right away. Like just as a kid, like I've always just been creative. I'm not the smartest guy in the world. I'm not like the most proficient with like organization, but creatively, I know I can contribute to society in some sort of way and maybe inspire someone with my raw ideas. And so people like me, dipshits, they kind of need other people around them.
01:11:08
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i really I know some truly beautiful souls that are so fucking good with, you know, people like Julian who are great with music videos, people like my friend Steve or Alex, like I mentioned, um just, you know, fantastic with music to the point where I see such a I see the thesis of like why like being proficient in that is almost a different language. And because, like I said, such a I guess like more of a poetic sort of nature.
01:11:36
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to wherever they might have come from. We're all diving at the same thing, which is something in here that you need to get out. And so yeah we can help each other, you know? It it is a, but it's in a sense, a sort of, it is a prison to have so much stuff in you that you want to get out. And I think the best way to do that is collaboration. And so it would be great if I could just write poems, but I don't think anyone's reading poems anymore, you know? like and i die i mean You know what I mean? Like, yeah, but you might be you might be surprised. There are there are certain people out there that so yeah just out of curiosity curiosity, are you are you by chance left handed? I am left handed. But I guess to to flesh it out more, I think it would be perfectly fine to put out my poems and I would get the same satisfaction as maybe completing half a project almost, because I think yeah it doesn't fully flesh it out. You know what I mean? Like,
01:12:30
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um I don't know if you read like Game of Thrones or like a song of ice and fire, but he kind of felt like that. So the reason he started writing is because he didn't have a budget for making movies. So like he always wanted to make those into film. And so, and they kind of read like it, right? Like if you've ever read it, those sorts of things, like you clearly can tell he wanted that to be big, big, big. And so it was part of the process that he gave, gained a TV show from that. Yeah. So.
01:12:58
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I don't know anything about Game of Thrones or it's like like but but I do know that song by Ed Sheeran fire nice and that's a kick-ass song know that' going I Think I think he did it. I think he did it for Give me nicey fire Maybe that's what it is. That's for a Tolkien stuff. That's like the hobbit is that to Yeah it's all the same yeah
01:13:24
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yeah star war star trek tolen right right like roads yeah so It's super inspired by Tolkien but um more much more cynical much more of like a human condition with it. I prefer Tolkien. I always prefer I like the the good and the bad the very Christian sentiments of it. I do kind of like that does resonate It's like, you know, you don't really need to complicate it more than that. You're doing good or you're doing bad My co-creator of the network would enjoy you. to tell yeah i yeah
01:13:57
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was easy val stuff of like i'm like dude i and they they tried to they they they They tried to turn me into a a Game of Thrones fan. They're like, g click. there's just King Baratheon, dude. And it's you. You got to watch this show so you can see this guy. You'll love him. He's a badass. He's a drunk. yeah And I'm like, I'm still not watching. yeah Yeah, you definitely give Baratheon energy for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love like anything like that because it's a very deep human condition of there's something with myths and like folklore stories.
01:14:38
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your life, you can find a way to apply that to your struggles. And life is struggle after all, right? So applying something like, A medieval knight to it is very important to a lot of people, including me, because I'm a dork. But like, yeah, absolutely. ah we we We all have our we all have our our world of nerdism, nerdiness, where we live. You know, ah like I said, I'm a big fan of comic books, you know what I mean? So so and it's basically it is basically the same thing. You know, it's it's everything yeah it's a fantasy world, just a different world. You know, we all have our things and it's what you. Yeah, I mean, it's type.
01:15:17
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like Carl Jung, like a very important, for for well, he's not really a philosopher, but he's a psychologist, but he gets so deep into philosophy that I almost consider him that. But ah yeah yeah, he would talk about archetypes like that. So like, if you see something like, ah like, um,
01:15:33
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you know, any of them, like Thor, right? Like Thor is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, is Thor, yeah masculine qualities is Thor, Thor,
01:15:51
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multifaceted nourishing effect of the human soul that you can tap into at any point
01:15:59
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go to hell pickled Yeah, I saw this. What is this? Never you mind. Yes, yeah I agree. it's wal As well. but Yeah, you got to help Pickle Pepper. I'll deal with you later. You sorry, son of a. You come yesterday. I don't know anything about poker. The only thing I know about poker music is there's the the guy who is the poker king of somewhere and then and then. Jack Black played it.
01:16:33
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Yeah, it was like, yeah, Jack Black played it. Yeah. It was a pretty good movie. Not gonna lie. But I, but I am a fan of Jack Black. You've got kids. Did you see the newest like Minecraft movie? Not yet. But my son who was 11 was like, damn, there's a Minecraft movie. And I was like, yeah.
01:16:53
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I see the only saving grace is Jack Black's in it, so I'll probably watch it with you. Yeah, I'm really genuinely concerned if it's good or not, but like, you know, I used to play Minecraft when I was younger, but yeah. I mean, I watch my kids play it and I'm just like. i what do what what ah What is happening right now? Like, what are you doing? It's so open. so Yeah, like very great. I love that sort of thing. It's just like. yeah And all my son does is the creative mode. That's all he does. Yeah. That's what I used to do. Yeah. Wait. No, I did. No, no, no. I did the other one. Nevermind. Yeah. I forget the other. Build some of the coolest shit, but I'm also like, I don't have the patience for that. I'm a call a guy like, you know, it's funny because like in my line of work, I, you know, I'm teaching lots of ah kids around the ages of like, um,
01:17:47
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like grade two to grade seven. And they all still kind of play Minecraft. Like it's not the most popular, but a lot of them will still play it. It's funny, the different personalities that will play creative mode and the mode where you're like surviving. And it's just like, there's two different realms of human thought here. that yeah and You could write
Gaming and Relaxation
01:18:08
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essays on it. That's good.
01:18:09
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my my ah yeah yeah Unfortunately, there is a there's a, I don't know, fortunately, unfortunately, um they yeah My ADHD brain, ah d brine I can't do it. I like that. you know I'm like um' a um' a Call of Duty guy. I got into a little bit. I got into Skyrim. Was it Skyrim or one of those games like Skyrim? Right. Got into it a little bit. But again, you know a friend of mine, she was big into D and&D and all those video games. And and she was like,
01:18:45
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she She she hyped it up. She's like you could be a tank and I'm like, well, I don't know what that is What it sounds cool. And then I got into it that's what all i I Don't know if that's I might have dabbled in that a little bit wasn't ball was like and there was almost like yeah now You know like being a tank was pretty cool, you know, you know because that's me in my normal life like I rush headfirst into situations sometimes I get into trouble sometimes it works out but then also the building a character and collecting this and collecting that and having these jewels that do this and these gyms and this and that. And I'm like, there's too much going on. Just give me Call of Duty where I can just blow shit up. It's fast paced. It's fast paced. It's quick. And I can still build things. I can build guns and everything like that. But I need that fast paced now, now, now, now, now, now, because otherwise I just get bored and I'm like,
01:19:42
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Yeah, I totally get that too. Yeah, especially like after a day's work or something like it's good to let's just zone out sometimes. Yeah, yeah, it's mindless and I'll come home and you know, shout out to my fiance. She's awesome. I'll come home from work and before a show I'll jump on and I just do my daily, you know, like games have their daily achievements and I'll jump on there and I'll be like I just want to get my dailies and she's like you're fine. I'm gonna read my Kindle. And I'm like cool, but it's just that mindless just ah Unwind. I don't want to think about it. I've just been at work all day Yeah, like I've been at work all day and and and ah and I've got my show prep done for before the show tonight And and then ah you know, I'm ah mentally preparing myself For the show ahead and it's just I only shut my brain off for a few for a few minutes but yeah
01:20:30
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you know I mean, it's it's cooler than just what I've been doing, which is just getting like looped into just fucking Instagram reels. like us you knowve i Whenever I catch myself doing that, I'm like, what am I doing right now? I could be doing anything else. Yeah. i'm not I'm not mad at Instagram. I'm not mad at the Instagram reels because, like I said, my algorithm is is is pretty spot on specific. Obviously, that's how I came across you guys.
01:20:56
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Um, it's, it's, it's music and it's, and it's, and it's up and coming local artists, which is what this show is designed for. So, you know, and then, and then I have like podcasty stuff and sports stuff. I'm a big sports guy. And, uh, and, uh, and then, uh, and that's a really about it. You got some cute animals and stuff in there, otters and.
01:21:18
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honors. I love honors. I don't know why. I love honors. They're fucking adorable. She knew it was coming. And like, and like the, the, the bullies, uh, pit bulls, American bulldog or bullies and stuff like that. Um, so it's like, it's a very specific algorithm, which as I get the guys more and more involved on our algorithm or on our Instagram, I'm sure the algorithm is going to change, but I find myself doing
Paranormal Experiences and Stories
01:21:45
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that too. That and, and, and YouTube.
01:21:48
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YouTube shorts, man, I'll just mindlessly scroll, but there's so many wormholes. I go down from like paranormal stuff, uh, true crime, unsolved mysteries. And, you know, it's just like, yeah, again, much like the forest thing, three hours of my life sitting on the toilet is gone.
01:22:10
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without the ca Yeah, my fiance's come back four times to check and make sure I'm still alive. And it's like, yeah, I'm good. What are you doing? I'm mindlessly scrolling, you know, but, uh, the historical house I work in, like, uh, yeah, we I just had to stay late the other night just cause we had a paranormal activity team coming through. that's Nice. I'm in there. and I'm in there every day. So I've never seen anything. Uh, well, I say that, but.
01:22:37
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Actually, a ah pretty cool one that just happened. It's not even that cool because I was just genuinely concerned that I'd lost my mind. But you have like, there's like a whole group of like grade twos running around looking for artifacts because they do a scavenger hunt for their like, you know, day out from school.
01:22:56
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Well, who I work with will like keep them with them and they'll like move through every room. So it's a bit more orderly. I kind of like chaos. So I kind of let them just run off and I'm just like, don't touch anything. Or you're sitting down basically is like, your yeah whole and then, so I'm seeing these kids go off. Usually it's groups of like 11 to 12 of them, but this was like eight. So there was like specifically less kids. So I was like, I had an eye on all of them and.
01:23:19
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You know, in old houses from like 200 years ago, you usually have like a root cellar and that door is nearly always open and it's yeah in the kitchen. So a big kitchen area that's usually connected to the pantry. And it's like just basically half the house is like a kitchen there. And so I could see them all. They're all running around. And then I saw one go down the stairs.
01:23:38
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And I said, like, only stay on this floor. So I went down there after him and he was in, like, overalls. And that's how I knew, because I remember I was a kid when the kid in overalls went down the stairs. So I went down there, no one down there. And then the kids were like, what are you doing down there? I thought you said, don't go down there. And I was like, why don't you just went down there? And they were like, no, they didn't no.
01:23:55
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I was like, oh, well I'm either losing my mind or something actually did happen. So you were, ah you were, uh, you were chasing a, you were chasing a ghost, man. umm um um a huge wild paranormal Well, the way that the paranormal activity people describe, because I did tell them, I was like, you know, ultimately I would have said to you, I've never seen anything. I did just kind of see something. I don't know if that's seeing something. Maybe I'm probably just like, it was like nine in the morning. Uh, I probably just hadn't ah had enough coffee, but like, that's the rational way speaking. I went, uh, I told them this and they were like, well, you know, kids kicking up an activity like that probably like made something happen. And I was like,
01:24:36
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That sounds right. I don't want it to be because that's creepy. maybe writing out I want to be losing my mind in this situation. yeah yeah yeah you You and I have a lot in common and i and that's why I had to ask you if you were left handed. yeah I'm left handed as well. Left handed people think and act a certain way and he just said there like you kind of enjoy the chaos.
01:25:02
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And that's, that's, that's drives everyone. I work with fucking nuts drives all of them nuts. Cause they're all like, dude.
01:25:12
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They're staying there like, let's do it this way. And I'm like, Oh, what? I don't know. Like, I don't know anything about that. So I annoy them a lot. I think, but yeah. Oh, yeah. I, I, I, I, I work in property management now. apparentlyly And basically what that, what that boils down to is I'm a maintenance tech.
01:25:31
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at a, I have two buildings and and I'm just kind of there. I'm a body. I take care of the common areas because it's residential, but all the units are owned, so we don't do anything on the inside.
Work Style and Creativity
01:25:45
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That's um that's up to the homeowners and whatnot. But my my boss, I drive her crazy because she's like,
01:25:54
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yeah We got to organize and you got it. And I'm like, no, I, I, I, I strive under organized chaos. I have to be working on five different projects at the same time. They're all going to get done, but I, I love the, I call it organized chaos. Cause on the outside looking in, people are like, this dude's out of his mind. He's crazy. But to me, it's, it's perfectly normal. Like.
01:26:21
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don't don't structure don't structure me and don't don't don't pin me in otherwise i start to go crazy like let me yeah i i'm not good with that either yeah i'm better let me just leaving me to it i'll get it done yeah yeah just let me just just let me do my thing i got this trust me you guys hired me for a reason You came to me. I didn't come to you. You know, I'm that damn i'm that damn good. And you know, I am. So yeah, absolutely. yeah again Yeah. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah. You think somebody came and told Beethoven how to write a sympathy? You think, uh, you think, uh, Van Gogh, you know, had somebody, maybe you should do a line like this. Maybe you should do that. No, they just were left to their devices. you Yeah. I'm sure. Like.
01:27:03
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whatever it like eventually they they see you've done it right so it's it's fine if you can prove it yeah yeah you know the the homeowners they love it they they're like hey there's click what's he oh there goes like oh now he's over here they come everywhere yeah i'm going i'm out your way
01:27:25
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map up But um when it when it comes to, when it when it when it comes you know, as you said, you know, I'm not a big reader. i don't Again, that comes down to getting bored. um I always have been a fan of poetry, love Robert Frost, Maya Angelou, um always been a big fan of poetry. It's a quick read, quick kind of like, I can read three or four of them and and go on about my business type deal. ah right But yeah when when you write,
01:27:55
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where Where do you get your inspiration to write? like whether a let's Let's focus on the music, because you've got a lot going on. ah You're writing a book. you I'm all over the place, yeah that's when it when it comes to yeah. When it comes to you sitting down excuse me to to to write music, where does your inspiration come from? um so It depends from project to project. i really compartmentalize a lot like that. um So if it fits with whatever I'm writing, so unbowed stuff is very like, um,
01:28:27
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philosophical like the last whole album we did was again, very Carl Jung oriented. So like the soul speaking out sort of thing. um It's connection to like, the dramatic runes and things like that, because I studied that a lot in the university. oh So a lot of that sort of thing. um Alex comes from Alex Snape again. So he's the guitarist I've been working with forever. He usually comes from a place of like,
01:28:52
Speaker
just writing amazing riffs or like he's very good at it, very good at writing stuff that just sounds cool as fuck. And then I come from more of a place of like, what does this make me feel when I'm listening to what he's written? And then how can I, you know,
01:29:09
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compartmentalize that into some sort of like structural philosophical thing that you might be able to scream over. like it's a yeah Whereas with this project, like the Holy Oath stuff, um, that I keep getting, I keep getting text messages. So that's why I was copying your, your link there to send to them. Uh, but, um, so yeah, the Holy Oath stuff is different because it comes from more of a,
01:29:38
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a place of like um on one level it's the book that I'm writing but on another it's like there is a a really weird um Twin Peaks almost vibe to a lot of the places that you get to in uh southern Ontario it's like again speaking with you because you you do like the paranormal stuff it almost feels like there's like two places on top of each other sometimes and I feel like this music that I have been ah creating for this is very trickling out from somewhere else. So I always say walk with me where the veil thins is like the main thing with this band. it's like ah
01:30:16
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especially
01:30:18
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um like it's like fishing seasons opened up when I go and like write for this sort of project during that time it's like amazing shit is coming especially during those seasons and it's um it feels like it comes from somewhere else it's um if you know the band tool that's like where they get their name right so oh yeah they believe themselves like antennae for something like you're not writing it it's coming to you and it's almost like that idea that people talk of like ah like if you ever listen like Rogan at all like he he he was saying the other day like it's kind of like ideas or their own sort of entities and and like it does kind of feel like that to me whenever I've been in a creative headspace it does feel more like I don't know if that's me actually I really don't know and so it is weird when I get compliments for things because it's like
01:31:08
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I don't know how much is that? Like, what is you at the end of the day? What is you? So definitely more liminal than a philosophical thing. I think Unbowed kind of channels a lot of my um Well, it's aggressive music, right? But like, holy oath. Always been a project that seems like something I've wanted to do. And it's really weird that I talk about it with um Steve on a daily basis, the guy who produces it, that it's like, we should have done it sooner, but we didn't for a reason. And I've always had these songs, like a few of them, like the the first one we did, Your Eyes Are The Perfect Crime, is very old song. It's like four or five years old, but never good song.
01:31:50
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Uh, thank you. And I don't know why I've never put it out and there was no reason to put it out until there was a reason to put it out. So yeah in many ways, I guess you kind of feel like a, like a, like a beer
Timing in Music Releases
01:32:02
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brewer as well. Sometimes like it's like that I'm going to shelf that and it will be something later. Like, you know, yeah um, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll come up. it It'll come up late. Well, you you know, it's also one of those things where, you know, uh, things happen for a reason. Yeah. I'm a firm believer in that.
01:32:18
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and and And when the time's right, you'll know it. So you you had that song in your back pocket and you you held on to it. And, you know, for whatever reason, you knew that the time was right. And and you did it with with with Holy Oath. ah Cool song, by the way. Again, I'm definitely digging the song. And, you know, it's and it's one of the other ones I downloaded for the night.
01:32:42
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um Yeah. But to answer the question, I guess it's that, yeah, it's like, it's very specific to what it is. But this is the one I would say is the closest to the the poet side. You know, it's like there's something, just something. I don't know what it is, especially there's a town around here called Alora, very old town. And as a historian, I look into the history of this stuff and like,
01:33:07
Speaker
where it came from. It feels like a dairy, if you know, like Stephen King. It's like very dairy vibes. very like Something else sleeps here. like It feels like something else. So me and the guitarist Joaquin, who I've known even longer than Alex, like we've we it's such a small town vibe around here. like We've known each other since like grade five. yeah like when When he knew like barely any English, we met each other because he was from Mexico or and originally. Oh, wow.
01:33:36
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We go on a weekly basis, we go to a Laura and it's like the place we get the most inspiration. So like, and we'll usually have two or three beers, uh, do our taro and then like go for a walk and like around the stream and the the river and stuff. Really, uh, like, I don't know why you do it. And then, yeah. Yeah. I'm i'm gonna, I'm gonna start looking at planning, uh, uh, uh, um,
01:34:01
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a trip up there. Oh, yeah. Let's go for it. and Hey, baby, you want to go to Canada? but and go We're fun. I'll take you to the best fucking country bar. It's amazing up here. It's nice. It goes ham up here as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah I'll get my boots out. Uh, no, I love this kind of stuff. I maybe that's what the draw was, was, you know, that, that kind of, you know, like you said, it's, it's, it's put it in terms for me being like a comic book guy. You know, it's almost like a multiverse and there's different, uh, variants of you. And, and, and that comes out in these different projects, whether, uh, you know, it'd be a holy oath or unemboweled or soul.
01:34:55
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Or or your your your poetry or your book yeahre like there's different variants of you from different like a different Multiverse as as the MCU says um But each one of those variants are able to lock into what they want to do in that particular Situation and that's really cool, man um You know And I'm digging the vibe with holy oath. Obviously I'm checking out. I'm going to be checking out the other band. Like I almost feel like I could have you on this show like four or five different times and just talk about yeah there were different, different project. everyone i I can talk shit all night. I'm just, yeah. i laugh yeah ah That's, that's, that's, that's one of the cool things about this show is because you never know. Uh, the type of people, I was actually just talking to my guests from last week. Him and I were talking today.
01:35:47
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yeah ah You never, eat you never know how you're going to vibe, how you're going to click. And, you know, friendships are, I formed a few friendships from, from different guests and whatnot. But, you know, ah like I'm locked in, like, I'm like, man, this dude is so fucking cool. Like he's on the same way. but yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Because there's a lot of people that, there's a lot of people when I'm like, you know, like,
01:36:16
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like you said, yeah, I know you go to that, you go to that town and it almost feels like there's, and we've got places like that here where it's like, something's a little off. You know what I mean? Like, it's always, there's like, yeah. you Like if you see like the types of businesses that pop up in those towns, it's always different. Like there's, there's some in Ellora that are just like, that's weird. Like some of them that are owned by like, um, like people who are like,
01:36:46
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Like, what's the one called? I don't know. I'm trying to remember its name, but... And it was just like very esoteric. Like they, I looked up their like business name and eventually like it comes back to you that they're like, they actually so like hunt for like the holy grail and things like that. And they just weird stuff like that. And like, uh, yeah, some of like the coolest little pubs too. Like there was one that, uh, just shut down called the port slide and they still have like an open stove. And the last night that me and Joaquin went in there, like they the, um,
01:37:18
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the the bartender was just like pissed drunk. like And we're like, i it it's because they were closing, I guess. And it was more like a friendly sort of situation. And he like grabbed me by the shoulder and he's like, there's something weird in this town, eh? And I was like, yeah, there is. Yeah, so I don't know. It's got a, oh,
01:37:43
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oh what the hell? um What is that goddamn name of that movie? It's got Simon Peig in it. Uh, where he's at, where he's the, no, well, the world, what was it? hot fus Yeah. hot funzz Yeah. and they and then did yeah like It's like a combination of like hot buzz and, and world's end. Simon Peig is such an underrated actor.
01:38:10
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g three Yeah, oh they get it they get that vibe but they get the whole whole do that I'm talking about like the Yeah, yeah, actually world's end. They're playing like Sisters of Mercy throughout the whole thing No, yeah, yeah it's it's it's got that kind of Yeah, that just that vibe that low-key connect it yeah there something I haven't figured it out yet. That's why you get the the archetype of the detective maybe in things like the music video like it's like, yeah, there's something going on. I don't know. like Yeah. I'm on the case. I'm hot on the case of it. I don't know. But right now, I'm satisfied with the cool riffs that come out of it. So yeah, it's super cool. So like I said, you know, um it's it's just and like, I don't know. It's it's almost
01:39:01
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It almost kind of puts you in a trance, you know, when you just kind of vibe in with it. And like I said, I'm a huge music nerd.
Music Videos: Story and Emotion
01:39:12
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And the whole thing about, you know, music is when you can write a song, perform a song. and and i and And I grew up in the MTV era, music videos. And if you can put a video with a song and they like certain bands like Michael Jackson was great at doing this.
01:39:33
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The Aerosmith was great. Guns N' Roses was great. Country artist Tracy Lawrence was but phenomenal. and creating music videos to go with the song. i mean he yeah he had personal so ah What's some of his songs? like ah he he he did he's He's done Alibi's, Texas Tornado. I must have heard some of them. And even Travis Trent. Travis Trent was great about writing a song with another country artist. i love He was great about writing a song, telling a story in the song, but then making a video that made you
01:40:13
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feel the song like the song hit even harder when you watched a video. And yeah yeah yeah, Tracy Lawrence and Bo Travis Trent did this thing where they kind of turn their music videos into a movie. So each video is a continuation. And yeah, it's something that means Julian have talked about, like everything we do should kind of like hint at some sort of cohesion. It's something like when I was growing up, like I kind of yearned for that through other things and you connect them yourself.
01:40:43
Speaker
So clearly, people do want it, I think. um Yeah, they want ah some sort of pattern or cohesion. That's always something humans look for. So you don't even have able to see that. Yeah, I can definitely see that video. got you Like, like in all honesty, you know, you're left with the missing poster of the detective or sheriff or, yeah like you know, at the end of the day, I'm like, well, what the hell happened? yeah here yeah Yeah, I need more. I need more. Exactly. Yeah. yeah you know let's
01:41:15
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it's It's the best way.
01:41:20
Speaker
You don't have to spell it out for people. People are quite smart. You know, like people can get that stuff themselves. You don't really have to. And that's the thing with most media today. I feel like it like spoon feeds you a lot. Like you don't need to do that. Like people are smart and like, it just shows like a lot of like, you know, that sort of like,
01:41:40
Speaker
What would you even call that? Like, I guess a complex of some sort, like the media complex, they you kind of, they just kind of think you don't know how to think, but you can just do it. Like let them do that thing. You know, the, the, the people, it's almost like a cult nowadays, man. The people who, the people who follow the media and then then these news channels, like it's nuts. their word Their word is bond. What they say is, is the end all like, no, it's, it's, it's really not at the end of the day because You have to realize this is just clickbait. yeah They don't even have the full story in there and they're running with it.
01:42:18
Speaker
And i don't I don't even know what happened, but like, yeah, like growing up in a metal and punk scene and then people just being like, no, this is, they're telling the truth all of a sudden. I've never changed my view on this. That's stupid. but They're probably lying. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's definitely very, uh, it's, it's very cultish at the end of the day. Um, stupid. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It's like.
01:42:44
Speaker
You know that we we we're we're all free thinkers. We have free will. we can We can think on our own. no's If someone's paying that much money to tell you something, probably got a little bit of bias in it. Yeah, right. Yeah, like exactly.
01:43:01
Speaker
Yeah, I'll just think about it. I don't know Yeah, it it's it's like me coming on here me and like the nonsensical network is the greatest podcast network ever There's no podcast network that is as good as we are because I said it and you know Joe Rogan and I have beef he doesn't know it but to be known I got beef with you Joe Rogan I think he's a fantastic You know, he's the godfather of podcasting. I'm not a fan of his show. I do watch some things get my attention, but he's very good at what he does. And like I said, he he he's he's the end all be all when it comes to podcasting. Like he is the guy he you know, he's you know, he's the dawn. You know, he's the godfather. I like that. Yeah. Go on. Yeah.
01:43:53
Speaker
Yeah, no, I would love the one day that, that, that my name being mentioned alongside of him. But however, until then I'm going to talk shit about Joe Rogan. I just hope he never meet in person because I'm a big guy and I can handle my own, but Joe Rogan would beat the hell out of me. I like that. I usually put on like a Theo Vaughn in the background. That guy's funny. it's ah I do love, I do like some Theo Vaughn. He's a,
01:44:20
Speaker
He's an interesting character to save the league. His brain works different. It's very funny. Yeah. Yeah. he'ss he's ah he's He's funny as hell. I do like the OVON. So what's what's what's next for you for you guys? are you Are you guys working on like an album? Are you guys planning on doing some touring? Are you planning on What do you guys you just gonna drop some singles some more videos? I hope you drop more videos and if you need a guy to be in a video i know a guy i mean oh nice okay i know a guy he's he's he's big he's bearded he can be kind of scary at time yeah he come hang out yeah on yeah know um Next so I kind of apply a
01:45:10
Speaker
like a rhythm to most things. Otherwise I get distracted. So yeah, like, um, there's a good hip hop band I listened to from Australia called triple one. I don't know if you've ever heard of them, but like, no, I haven't, but I'll have to check them out. So they, they do a lot of, uh, single drops. They'll just, or they used to anyway, but like, um, I really liked that idea because I don't think your average listener gives a fuck about like a bet and they've never heard. of So if they're going to listen to anything, I think it's going to be,
01:45:39
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on the fly. And I think if they're going to find something they like about it, it's probably through a single. So I like dropping the singles. I've been asked by probably interested in an album that um we're thinking about it now. So yeah, like, but it's kind of um just my sort of business tactic brain that I don't usually apply, but I've started to now. um like, unless people are asking, just keep doing what you were doing. You know, that's kind of how I was viewing. Do what you like. um Even in like live shows, I felt like, what's the point of doing that for what, like three or four people in different places? Like I've played live and gone on tour enough to realize it's
01:46:30
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for a lot of people an excuse to like get drunk and party and like, yeah but like, and that's great when you're younger, but like I'm kind of over it. Like I don't really need to do that. If I want to get drunk and party, I have plenty of friends here. I don't need to do that right away from the life. Like that's a lot of people like once you start getting a little bit, but like I like to tour when people want to hear my music and you get to a certain point where it's like, okay, how many people are going to be at that bar that night who've never heard of you and go, huh, I'm going to look at them up on social media. Like probably not many, right? And like, that's not me being a nihilist, but it's more like supply and demand, I think is what I'd rather look at it like. And I'm not going to take time out of my
01:47:15
Speaker
work week that I need in order to survive as a human being to go do that for people who don't even really need to listen to it. I will do that when people want to have a good night with friends by going out to listen to music they've heard and they want to listen to.
01:47:31
Speaker
I think that's a better way of doing it. So so for like playing live, I'm OK with playing a few live sets like at New York, if like people like us there. um Same with like a hometown show where people definitely want to hear it. And like I've been asked a few times. Fine. But I'm not like going to engage all my effort into getting really good at playing live if no one's even heard our songs online yet, because that's clearly where everyone lives now. So.
01:47:56
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like right have We're in a big global community online and no one knows how the algorithms work. So I would rather at least shoot my efforts and exhaust myself digitally before I step out into the world that no one seems to go out into anymore. yeah right so Well, you know, it's, it's all about finding the right, you know, the, the right city, right town. Yeah. You know, where.
01:48:21
Speaker
were they where they enjoy live bands. um you know Like I said, my my my little town where I live at, my little big town that I live at, you know people enjoy live of music. and And you may never heard of them. I mean, there's been bands where, Lord knows I've never heard of them, but I'm like, oh, they got a live band tonight. yeah let's yeah ask you know that and and And then you go.
01:48:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's a packed **** bar and it's just like totally right like those. doings like Sure. Yeah, I sound I sound real cynical. I don't mean to sound cynical for that like there are those places absolutely and I would travel to them in a heartbeat and I don't mind if no one likes us or I don't mind if no one knows us. That's completely cool.
01:49:02
Speaker
but um I guess just like going on a tour to places where not every one of those places will exist, you know, but like, you know, this girl that I have been in contact with in New York, whose name I should probably go get, but like, so sorry to her. shout out shout her out but um yeah she i take a break and you can get her and you can get her You can get her name. and and youre yeah more though i i trust I trust when someone like a promoter says like, absolutely, your music would do well, even though they don't know you. That's enough for me. So I'm not trying to be cynical with that, but like, yeah, um just traveling blindly, maybe not. But, you know, yeah if I know there's an appetite for that sort of like goth music, yeah, I'll go.
01:49:45
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yeah like ah But for now, what's next for us? Yeah, like we're still recording singles. I'll probably compile them into an album when I feel like it's ready to, and I have enough money to properly finance like advertisement for it, I suppose, because du you know it's not enough to just have you putting it out there, really. like That doesn't doesn't work as well as I'd hope it would, but that's the reality of it. There's so many cool bands out there.
01:50:15
Speaker
Well, and like you said, you know, everybody lives online these days. And I think, you know, um, I think a lot of artists are starting to do that rather than putting in the work in the studio and dropping a full album. They're they're like, Oh, we got this single. Let's, let's drop this single and do a cool ass video to it. You know, and let's, let's get some, uh, you know, uh, former guests to the show and now co-host on my football show. Uh, shout out to Derek Wayne Douglas.
01:50:44
Speaker
He does that he's dropping songs like he's dropped enough songs to just record an album at this point but he's literally dropping a new song like every week every other week and and it's just like Dude, why aren't you doing an album? He's like because this is getting more play than doing a whole ass album I'm gonna talk to a few other artists that that had that mindset. I think that's the mindset nowadays because yeah, everybody lives online and and that's that's where you're going to get your following from. and and And people are going to want more. They're going to want to see more. And um it's it's not like back in the day where you know you're only going to get noticed if you get radio play. And you're only going to get radio play if you're dropping an album because you know you have one or two singles that come off of an album. And the the radio stations are going to play them. And again, i'm ah I'm a radio nerd because before podcasting, I wanted to be on radio.
01:51:40
Speaker
um and and as you know And now we're in this day and age that we live in. It's all about likes, follows, comments, TikTok, TikTok. There's a lot of TikTok artists. um and And there's a lot that I've, I'm like, wow, they're really good. you're only But you're only seeing a minute of them. And then you go look up their stuff and it's just like, they're really not that good. like they they They created something real catchy. Yeah.
01:52:13
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then you go listen to like an actual song and it's just like, man, I had, man, damn. Like I was really, you know, just don't do, don't do full songs anymore. Just stick to what you're doing. Yeah. I've found a few bands like that. Yeah. Like a great, great like clip, but then you listen to the full song. I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm good. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and I've said this a lot during this show.
01:52:42
Speaker
I think the cool thing is, is there's a resurgence of musicians and artists, like actual musicians and actual artists who write their stuff. they Excuse me, they take pride in what they're doing. And they're not just going into a studio with 30 songwriters and punching in a code on the laptop to make their voice sound better. and and tweaking, or they're just, they're they're real songwriters, they're real musicians. And being a little bit older, I hate to say this, because I sound like the grumpy old man on his porch yelling at kids to get off his lawn. Music dropped off in the mid 2000s. And we need artists like you and and and other artists that, thank you.
01:53:37
Speaker
I love you. That's great. She wants to she wants to kill me. I love you. She's not feeling good. Um but uh yeah. I I've got a blocked ear. I can't I don't know if you can tell but I keep like going like this because it's boring. She she claims she's dying. I told her she's not allowed to die. Yeah.
01:54:04
Speaker
so you' get out of this really you Don't You don't get out of this relationship that easy. You're stuck with me, woman. I think yeah probably music's like arguably better than ever, but in a sad way, no one knows how to access any of it. It's kind of like information as well. like it's like you know Anything that you like about Linkin Park, you could probably hear 10 times over with like four or five different bands.
Navigating the Music Industry
01:54:34
Speaker
Is that better for society? I don't know, but it kind of leads like Certain genres flounder for a while and then they try and find their footing but like for the most part there's no money in it So therefore you don't hear it unless you're looking for it. So that's what's sad about that. But like so Speaking on that and I think I kind of already know the answer to that or to the question I'm about to ask Are you are you guys?
01:55:01
Speaker
Your main focus are you guys are you guys in in any of the projects that you're involved with? Are you looking for the money and the fame or are you doing it for? In the love of it, you know, you love what you're doing ah Yeah, so like I would love to make a a living off of doing it, that'd be fantastic. But like, I'm, you know, also completely rational as a human being. And that's probably not ever gonna happen. And that's totally cool too, because I have other passions. So like, as long as I can keep myself stable,
01:55:34
Speaker
and be able to have the energy to do all the things I love before I perish or, you know, start dying. And it's like, you know, that's OK. I don't do it for a reason. I do it for the journey sort of thing, you know. Yeah, exactly. There's a great Ontario artist called David Gold, who died in 2011, but he was our hero growing up. And one of the things that resonated with us as kids getting into a genre where you're ultimately doomed to never make anything of it.
01:56:04
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was there is no destination. There's only the journey. That was his quote for that. And yeah, so I live by that. It also resonates through most mythologies that I studied. So like Ragnarok, right? The gods, they.
01:56:16
Speaker
You know, their doom is coming, but they ride toward it anyway. That's because you love it. You know, you don't need anything out of it. I think that's beautiful. And I think that's the human condition. We all know we're going to die. So you might as well make something great of it. So the next person in line can go, well, he did that. That's cool. I'm going to do that too. And ultimately, I think that leads to a better world for people coming. Uh, yeah, absolutely. Can I get that quote one more time? Because I'm going to use that. I like that quote, man.
01:56:44
Speaker
Sure. Yeah. Dave Golds. Yeah. It's a, there is no destination. There is only the journey. It's a, he actually says it. It's like a spoken word at the end of a song called the will to give by woods of Ypres woods of Ypres great phenomenal black metal band from Southern Ontario. So I have to wrap them. They're fantastic. They're the reason I do everything probably.
01:57:12
Speaker
Yeah, I'm I'm actually writing it down because I'm old school and I got my little notepad right here. Uh as I say when I die, somebody's going to find this. Somebody's going to have this notebook. I've got about a thousand of these. I just fill these with everything, right? Yeah. Yeah. Somebody, somebody, somebody's going to find this notebook after I die and be like, this dude is out of his mind. Oh yeah. Right **** You know, like in his short hand or you know, whatever. So, I don't. So, I understand it and I won't forget it.
01:57:41
Speaker
But I like that quote and I want to use that quote and I want to make sure that's cool I give him credit where credit's due. That's a good cause I mean, that's, that that's truly what it is. I mean, that's kind of where we are. You know, obviously I would love to quit my day job and, and do this full time and and make more than enough money to live off of, but sure the other day.
01:58:03
Speaker
I love doing this. I love the opportunities that I'm given, you know, whether it be doing this show and and getting to meet new people and, you know, introduce people to new artists and and new genres of music, because I'm sure there's people out there that listen to this show or watch this show and they're like, why the hell is Glick interviewing this guy?
01:58:25
Speaker
They're like, what about this music? You're like, why don't you shut the hell up and listen to their music and listen to what the man's saying, and you know? And then they do. They shut the hell up and they listen to what you're saying. They listen to your music and they're like, oh, okay. And then you got a new fan and you're one you're one step closer to reaching that goal or quote unquote, possibly hitting that destination and being where you want to be. Um,
01:58:52
Speaker
But i yeah, no man it it it really is about the art. ah yeah you know It sounds cheesy to say that and kind of cliche, but it is at the end of the day. And I think that's i think that's what we're coming into as far as music goes these days. We're coming into a new generation of artists that are truly doing it for the art again. again you know we we We lost that somewhere down the road, and now we're getting back to it. And I'm highlighting it.
01:59:19
Speaker
if it worked Well, like you said, like, yeah, like I think it's probably never been lost. There's probably always been that, but like highlighting it has been lost maybe. Yeah. Yeah. like Yeah. They've probably always been there. Like this probably always thought those people who.
01:59:36
Speaker
You can probably find it in any year of human creation where you're just like, oh, that guy was trying, but. Yeah, right. Exactly. Radars. Yeah. It's definitely more of a thing now because people don't know where to look for inspiration or like guidance, maybe. Hmm. Yeah. Weird time we live in for sure. For more than one reason.
02:00:03
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Yeah. and and and And that's what I'm trying to do here, man. I want to i want to highlight you guys because i mean there's a lot of super talented artists out there. and And like I said, I didn't know until tonight, I keep repeating it. My mind's just kind of because I'm looking at these other, you know, and talking to you and and and everything is different. You know, you're you're involved with three different bands here. And and and and it's all kind of it's all they're all different. You know, they all have their yeah that all kind of thing went on for sure yeah Yeah. Yeah. Um man, I could talk to you all night long. I'm not even watching. I talk any time you want though. Yeah. It's good to see you. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is definitely gotta be uh uh uh a continuation II II do want to tell you though as I said, we we we do seven shows a week here or eight shows a week here. Uh uh uh I'm on uh
02:01:00
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on three or four of them. ah Man, i would I would love to have you pop up, conversate on different shows. I'd love to have you on this one again.
02:01:11
Speaker
Oh yeah, of course. Anytime, man. Thank you so much for having me. It was a pleasure to reach out. And like, if I could interrupt there in just a second, like we didn't do any sort of PR for any of this. I just used like boosting on Instagram. And if it found cool people like you, then it works, right? So there you go. That's the proof. You're absolutely proof of I need to start boosting some stuff. But what I want to do, I want to keep you for just a little bit longer. But I want to take a real quick break. I want to i want to play another i want to play another song here. I want to take a real quick break. I got a couple couple more. and I won't keep you too much longer. No problem. But I do have a couple more questions I want to ask you. But I want to play, and and and you brought this up a little bit ago. Your eyes are the perfect crime. I like that a lot.
02:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, I want to play this here real quick and we're going to come right back. And I like I said, I got a few more questions for you and then I'm going to let you get the hell out of here because I'm sure you got work in the morning. that no I got work in the morning, but it's Friday. yeah Don't get into anything that don't don't think about it. Don't talk about it. Don't look at it. ah Just get through the day. It's Friday. So we'll be right back. Here's Holy Oath with your eyes are the perfect. Cool.
02:04:49
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Your eyes are broken, crying
02:06:35
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Oh yellow Excuse me. Oh, yeah, so the perfect crime video a Pretty girl looks like she's gonna cause some custom mayhem and mischief in your life actually a good she's good that one yeah that's what they all say. She's a manager of the local uh country bar. She's she's a cool girl. Nice. Nice. doesn't mean but she She was like like on the fly. I was just like, hey, do you want to be in this music video? Like, you got, I need like a girl with dark hair and uh she was like, yeah, absolutely so
02:07:13
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely, man. that' That's cool, man. And that and again, that that speaks volumes on yeah having that community behind you. Yeah. yeah if i If I like you, I'm going to ask you something probably. I'll probably be like, I need to call you for something. Yeah. Yeah. I feel you. And I do that from time to time. I'm like, hey, can I make a request? I've done that a couple of times. I've had a couple of guests where I'm like,
02:07:44
Speaker
Could you do a cover of a specific song for me? They're like, yeah, what do you want to hear? And I'm like, can I tell love? And the next day they're like, hey, here you go. I'm like, holy shit. Sat down on the couch, got the guitar out and did a cover. I'm like, oh, you need to put that on. You need to get down. Either you need to do it or I'm going to do it. One of the two. But yeah, I've got a few requests for songs from some girls in the DMS. I'm like, all right. I'll see if I got time. I'll do that. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, there you go.
02:08:14
Speaker
It's all about the girls, man. I'm telling you, I'm only 29. It leads to trouble. where they They're gonna get you in trouble, man. They're no good. They're up to no good. A bunch of hussies. Go to church, ladies. There's a the whole reason you write sad songs. It's fucking cool. Hey, I've had a few guys on the show. Can't be too bad of them. Yeah. I've had a few guys on the show, man. They're country artists. And they kill the art of writing an old school country love song. Old school countries, I'm like, yo, why don't you just do that thing? Like, don't do anything else. Just do the country sad songs. Do the country love songs, man, because this shit's fucking insane how good you are at it. They're like, yeah.
02:09:02
Speaker
The girls love it. And I'm like, yeah, they do. yeah You dummy gets the girls, you know, more than the the fact that they've heard a man. here Yeah. A big dummy. Of course they do. They've lived it. We've all lived it. We all loved it. A good sad song. And we've all been there at some point in time. It resonates. It's like the more Nate you can be in a song, like the better, I think.
02:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, 100 percent. oh But welcome back to the music. We're a little bit in overtime. We're going to just go over a little bit here. It is what it is. It's the great thing about being the boss of a network. I can do whatever I want. yeah yeah But um ah one of the things I wanted to ask you, as far as the music videos go, because, you know, we've we've played three songs tonight and and and and and I think all three of the videos are cool. They go right along with the songs. You know, ah obviously, Raven Black caught my attention. And then and then ha I'm like, what the hell is he doing? Why is he doing a goddamn news report? You know, like, what hell's oh, oh, what the hell's going on in the back? There's somebody behind you. Oh, yeah. how about it work That's good. But no. But, you know, where do you again, much like your songwriting and stuff like that,
02:10:29
Speaker
ah or Where do you get your ideas for your music videos? I mean, does it come from the song itself or is it just somewhere else? Great question. ah I think for the most part. For the music video, whenever I find a good music video, it's usually because I'm listening to the song and picturing something in my head. Yeah. There's a place I like to go for a walk. I'll usually take a beer and some weed and I'll because that's legal here. But yeah here is legal here.
02:10:58
Speaker
Yeah, I don't like I wouldn't consider myself huge into weed or anything, but like if I am smoking weed, it's usually by myself going for a walk and thinking and listening to something. Yeah. You know, relaxation.
Nature and Creative Inspiration
02:11:10
Speaker
Yeah. too Usually it's like thinking about like it opens new doors, right? That's the whole thing with any sort of substance. I think that the the benefits of any substance, you shouldn't overdo it like anything else. But like, if you're using it, you should use it ah well.
02:11:27
Speaker
And for me, like, yeah, like a beer or some weed that's really good, putting up some doors that you wouldn't have thought about otherwise. It lets your brain wander kind of like a child's a bit more. you You don't have the same sort of like stoppage, like a resistor in like an electrical current. You kind of take those out, you get some more watts in there. And then, so there's a place I usually go for a walk. It's kind of like a dog park. It's along, on one side you have like lots of vast Canadian forest. And then on the other side, you have a big fucking highway with cookie cutter houses next to it. And it's like very really diametrically. It's very good for that. That's actually where I filmed the haunt video because it just that that spot mode matters a lot to my creative process. Like I'll go for it. It's a very narcissistic sort of catwalk runway where you can just kind of think by yourself. So it's nice. Nothing wrong with that.
02:12:23
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Um, there's a rune in the Elder Futhark called the Isa or Isa. And that's what we call that walkway. Whenever we go for a walk down there, me and my friends, it's a, cause Isa just means like ice is a contemplative. So it's like, it's still, it's water that's patient, sat thinking distilled. And so it's really good place to kind of visualize that very much so like a highway, like people like to go for drives for the same reason. Right. So like you get to just like, I'm that guy.
02:12:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You clear your head. Um, I like to ride motorcycles. Like I'm huge into that. Um, so I do the same thing. Let's go for a ride. Like you clear your head. Um, Oh man, you should get one. They're great. They're fucking fun. I had one i had one when I was younger. Um, I what you how to get ah had a, um, uh, crotch rocket wise. Yeah.
02:13:16
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Oh, fuck yeah. Nice. I'm more into like, I like to like lean back with a Honda shadow. um I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. I'm thinking of my buddy's bike and a CBR 900. Okay, cool. Yeah. but My buddy, I actually, when I bought the bike, I took my buddy to pick up his YZF.
02:13:33
Speaker
and then i'll say yeah got my yeah and I'm like, I've never ridden a motorcycle. I was 16. I've never ridden a motorcycle before. It's the same as a dirt bike. It's not the same as a dirt bike. But I want to, I want to, I want to get a, I want to get a big India and I want to get a cruiser. Like a big India.
02:13:50
Speaker
I fucking love Indians. Anything like they make just looks so sick. It looks like something like they just to like trap me. Like it's good. I love those things. Yeah. But I'm i'm that guy. I like to, uh, you know, if I'm going through some stuff or if I got to get some shit off my mind or, or whatever, I'll find a back country road, crank up the music yeah and just, and just drive. You know what I mean? Yeah.
02:14:13
Speaker
Yeah. One of my worst qualities is probably like listening to music too loud with in your headphones. I've just done that forever. So I'm definitely going deaf, but like, that's probably why I'm deaf. That's my go-to for like, uh, and that's usually where I come up with good music video ideas. It's like your ego goes wild, right? So it's like, yeah how could this look the coolest with the song or like what fits it in your head? And like, it's got a jigsaw puzzle. Sometimes it takes yeah months, sometimes years, sometimes it never even happens. It's like giving birth, you know,
02:14:43
Speaker
Sometimes it doesn't come at all. It's like you care for it and it's sad, but you it didn't happen. now Real quick. but what group quick so have you' pregnant right It's super, it's super impressive. And like, you have a really cool idea and you have all these components, but for some reason just didn't work that time. It collapsed. But, um,
02:15:09
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Yeah, I don't know. It did just caves the way for the next thing. So it's okay when that happens. But with the Holy Oath stuff, I've been on a good streak with it. It's like, whenever I think of something, I've got a good idea that follows it. So it does feel ethereal because I i do not come consider myself the most productive human being on planet Earth. I think I'm very distracted. I think I have a lot of poor qualities that lead to self deprecation and all the other stuff that people deal with. But like, for some reason, this project's kind of it just it does that. And I think it's from going for walks and doing these rituals and understanding humility and knowing that maybe ideas aren't always just from you, but from something else. Like, it's, yeah. sort of
02:15:52
Speaker
yes No, you know, it's funny, sometimes sometimes you hear a song. And again, I'm bringing up my buddy, Rock Lee. I'll drop his name. Rock Lee, that's my boy. We met on TikTok. We clicked instantly. we become he's He's one of my best friends. ah he's like ah He's like a little brother to me. um And he's he's an artist. And you know he's he's working on an album. He's always sending me you know new music and stuff like that. And he sent me this song. And great freaking song. Love the song.
02:16:27
Speaker
And instantly in my head, I was like, dude, you know, like, I'm like, this wouldn't, and I'm, who am I to say anything? But in my head, I'm like, man, this, I have this idea for a great video concept. So I hit him up. I was like, Hey, Rocky, I have a really cool idea for a video. If you ever get to this point with this, with this particular song. And I kind of told him, and he was like, I'm already ahead of you. That was my exact train of thought after I put it After I put it down and I listened to it and, and you know, when everything was finalized, he was like, that was my exact thought with this song. And I was like, hell yeah, that's going to be a kick-ass video to this song. But you got to drop your album, Rocky, if you're listening. You got to drop your album. God damn it. I've been waiting five years. But it happens. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny how that kind of happens. It's like.
02:17:21
Speaker
You hear songs like, you know, I bet this would be a amazing like an idea for for a video would be pretty cool. Well, like you said, you know, you just go on that on that walk a little a little weed blaze if you're out there listening. fuck i don't know yeah I know some other people who do it too much. And then it's like, it fucks you. So, you know, you really got to be careful with that. I usually like a potion, like a wizard. Only what I really need to, you know. There he is. But Peter Piper, Pickled Pecker, he's our he's our resident stoner. We love him though.
02:18:05
Speaker
Yeah, i don't i don't I don't partake. Never been my thing. I don't judge people who do. More power to you. We all have our vices and you know And and you know as long as it doesn't hinder you as being a productive human being or semi-productive human being, do your thing, man. It's legal here in Ohio. And I think it's great. Oh, yeah. know We yeahp just passed last year. um okay it's been It's been medically, which which I think is is is awesome. I'm a huge, huge supporter of medical marijuana.
02:18:41
Speaker
ah I've seen what it's what it does for cancer patients firsthand Parkinson autism, you know, my my nephew is autistic um My my sister used to use the oils and stuff like that medically. Oh my god it It does so much like why is it not? Just yeah medical everywhere like get rid of these these terror and I understand why you know Fight money it comes down to money at the end of the day, but
02:19:12
Speaker
man, you've got all these terrible drugs that are after doing terrible things to people, but then you have this one natural product that does so much. Like why is it not medical across the board? You know, uh, recreationally, um, uh, you know, like not my thing, but to I guess, ah you know, I just,
02:19:34
Speaker
you know, for somebody that they just sit around and just stoned out of their mind all day long and don't function as a normal human being or productive member of society, you know, but, ah you know, nothing wrong with enjoying a little, I mean, I drink. So who who am I to judge somebody who, who's a little, yeah, it's hard. Yeah. Never been like, I would never consider myself like a big proponent of weed or anything. Like, it's like, uh,
02:20:02
Speaker
like a once every once in a while sort of thing for me. But like, yeah, if you want to do it, be careful. But yeah, sure. Get accurate, man. Do it responsibly. Like, yeah. Like any ah anything else. Like literally anything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, um yeah man. I definitely and um I'm definitely going to. I said this last week, the guy, had ah the gentleman I had on last week's solo, Reckless High.
02:20:28
Speaker
ah yeah I'm definitely going to have you back up on here again, you know, and and and definitely yeah definitely going to drop the invite, uh, you know, for, for any of the other shows, Saturday nights would be, Saturday nights would be cool to see you come up if, uh, you know, if you're ever around, not doing anything and we're live, uh, all you got to do is jump in the comments and be like, Hey, what's going on? Hit me. The link's already in the chat, but, uh, you know, um, one of the last things I want to ask you, so moving forward,
02:20:56
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Obviously, you know, this isn't the only show that takes breaks. All of our shows take breaks. um As long as it's OK with you and and and this is going to include the other bands because I'm going to check them out and and whatnot, I would love to continue to play your guys' as music here on the network on our. don being honor Yeah, absolutely anytime. I was permission.
02:21:17
Speaker
It's my little loophole. Fuck you, YouTube. You heard the guy. You can't copyright me. So when he's big and famous, I've got it here. He said that I could use his music. <unk> topicoon yeah I'd be an honor. Sure. Yeah, I would love to continue to incorporate it. Also with that little part two of that.
02:21:34
Speaker
um new year coming around a lot of things are yeah not major changes here on the network but just different mentalities in the way we do things uh i've been saying it for a few months but i'm working i'm working on a spotify playlist um are you guys on spotify we are yeah yeah we're on spotify holy oath i i would love to to add Holy Oath or if any of your other projects are on Spotify, I would love to add you guys to my list. It'll go out onto our social media and it's it's it's it's a Glick's House of Music playlist. So it's only artists who have been on my on my show. Cool. So I can continue to spotlight you guys and give you guys some some play, let people hear you. Yeah. But it's it's it's strictly dedicated for for you guys that have been on Glick's House of Music. No, that'd be great. Yeah.
02:22:26
Speaker
I, uh, I'd like be honored to have, have our stuff on there for sure. Uh, most of my stuff is on there. Um, I think if not all of it, except for like the more quirky shit, but yeah, it's all on Spotify. Yeah. Corky shit. What is the Corky shit? The Corky shit is like, you know, like more like the dungeons and stuff I'm talking about. Like that's on YouTube. like you Things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Cool, man. Yeah. exactly Lovely to see you.
02:22:54
Speaker
Yeah, brother, I appreciate you, man. Uh, you know, it's, it's, it's funny, you know, you try to judge how a show is going to go based off of a conversation on Instagram. I figured you were going to be pretty cool. I figured you'd just be a fun interview, uh, based off of our limited conversation on, on Instagram. And, uh, from the moment you jumped in here, I was like, Oh, this is, this is going to be good. We're nice, man. Yeah. You're a cool guy.
02:23:23
Speaker
yeah so i like Like I said, um I'm definitely, uh, you know, I didn't really know how I felt about having guests come back, but the more I do this, the more I'm like, man, I would love to talk to this person some more. I would love to, you're definitely in that category. Um, even having you pop up on some of the other shows, um, you know, uh, you know, like I said, if you're, if you're around and we're live and, uh, you're like, Oh, Hey.
02:23:51
Speaker
That idiot Glick's life. What's he doing? oh oh any time yeah yeah oh drop drop an a a know Drop a little thing in the chat and we'll make sure you get the link. and But we'll definitely stay in contact. yeah Definitely anything you guys got coming up. um Make sure you keep me in the loop. We'll help promote stuff.
02:24:13
Speaker
will william We'll get stuff on our social media. Um, I'll chop and screw this up. I'll try to make some clips and, uh, I'll tell you guys in them, uh, the great, the cool thing, the the one of the cool things about Instagram and shout out to my girl Jules Jules in the how out in LA. She kind of put me on this. I didn't know that Instagram allows you to collaborate with, with, with other Instagram, uh, uh, our, our Instagramers or grammars or Instagramers. I don't know what we're called on Instagram.
02:24:42
Speaker
but you can send that collaboration. and and And when they accept it, um, that goes up on their, on their, on their feet as well. for sure And their audience can see it as, as well as your audience and yeah and whatnot. That's a great tool for Instagram, especially for musicians, podcasters and everything like that. I would encourage you guys to fully take advantage of it. I'll definitely be tagging you guys and, and, and inviting you guys for collaborations from the videos. Um,
02:25:12
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Before we hit this in-stream button here, I always like to ask my guests, are there any words of wisdom you would like to share with the audience? Anything that kind of, whether it's a quote that resonates with you or just something that's kind of keep your keep keeping on.
Final Words of Wisdom
02:25:34
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oh Yeah, always pick love over hate. all that No matter what you're going through, just do what you love. It doesn't matter what's making you hate.
02:25:42
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The hate goes away. Just do what you love. That's it. Hell yeah. No need for it. There's a whole world of hate. You don't need it. You don't need to add to it. Might feel like you need to. You don't need to. Yeah, I couldn't agree with that anymore. And I'm an old dog. I'm an old dog. You can't keep an old. You can't teach an old dog new tricks, but I can't agree with that more, man. wow yeah As always, yeah ladies and gentlemen, thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for watching.
02:26:12
Speaker
shout out to man i feel so bad but it sounds so much cooler you're like you got the cool accent it sounds so much more yohan yeah and go yeah cool man nice to see you like very very viking like yeah good yeah yeah yeah yo and shout out to you man shout out to to holio um unbowed and and and and and and so i and i can't pronounce that soul and aha Yeah, that's a hot tough one. Yeah. There you go. Uh best of luck to you, man. I look forward to uh watching you guys grow. Watching watching the future and seeing what you guys do and and I definitely look forward to uh doing more stuff with you and hanging out with you. Sure. Yeah. Before I ever up in your neck of the woods or if you're vice versa. Yeah, let me know. In our neck of the woods. Yeah. Uh let's hook up and and let's hang out, man. Let's do it. Alright, cheers, buddy. Alright,
02:27:08
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yeah
02:27:12
Speaker
Alright, I'll let you drop down. I'm gonna do my spiel. I'm gonna get the hell out of here Man Y'all asked me why I love doing this show and this is why I'm such a music nerd I love hanging out with these musicians. I love having these conversations and I love meeting these guys man Make sure you guys are checking out Holy Oath Unbound and um
02:27:42
Speaker
slow and ah Keep up with with your Han Keep up with him. He's doing a lot of crazy stuff man. He's doing all kinds of great stuff great music great music videos and Thank you guys for listening and truly truly truly truly. Thank you guys for listening I'm gonna do a little video, but I'm gonna go ahead and do it now Thank you guys for an awesome year everybody who's listened everybody who's watched All the amazing artists who've been up here and hung out with me.
02:28:18
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I had a vision for Glitz House of Music and it's definitely far exceeded what I thought it would be. And it's going to continue to grow and we're going to continue to do what we do. And we're going to continue to have fun here. But thank you guys. And and a huge, huge, huge, huge shout out and a huge thank you to All of my former guests and all of my future guests. Yeah, this is awesome. At the end of the day, make sure you guys are following the Nonsense School Network. We are everywhere. Facebook, Instagram, X, and TikTok. Shows are live Monday through Sunday on YouTube, Facebook, and Twitch. And you can listen anytime, any place, wherever you listen to podcasts at, all at the Nonsense School Network.
02:29:07
Speaker
or go to bio dot.link slash non-sensible network. All them links are there including the link to our merch store. Get you some swag. Get you some swag. Send us a picture. Send us a selfie. We'll throw it up on the social medias and shout you out with it as long as you're okay with it. ah Man, I mentioned the shows. We do have a lot of fun shows here. Mondays we kick off 6 p.m.
02:29:35
Speaker
Post about my boy Wally, Speedway stories and cold blooded conversations, anything and everything, motorsports and reptiles. Who would have thought motorsports and reptiles would work? Uh, not me, but Wally makes them work at the end of the day. He does make it work and it's a cool show and, uh, go show him some love and support him. He's, he's brand new to the podcasting game. Uh, so he's, he's still learning the ropes and, and getting in his confidence and, uh, you know,
02:30:05
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ah Show them some love Right after speedway stories and cold-blooded conversations on Monday 7 p.m. Is men caring for men. It is a men's mental health podcast ah hosted by Connor This week next week might be a little different a little surprise for you um But it's all about men's mental health and when they're live it's a it's a it's an open panel It's an open forum. The link is always in the chat for all men who want to come up and have a conversation and Maybe you want to take part in the conversation they're having. You want to add your two cents. Maybe you're going through some shit and you just got to get some shit off your chest. Come on up. You are welcomed. Tuesdays typically is Glick's House of Music. I'm hanging out with up and coming local artists.
02:30:52
Speaker
um I'm working on building that lineup up after the holidays. I will say, I will tell you guys, um, there will be no show next Tuesday or the following Tuesday, the next two, two Tuesdays, there will not be a live Glick's house of music. Now I'm not saying this is going to happen, but there's a good opera. There's a good chance and a slight potential that somebody might be house sit in Glick's house of music. I'm just saying.
02:31:23
Speaker
Uh, we'll, we'll figure that out. Um, but, uh, Wednesdays is what the fuck news, if it's in the news and it makes us say what the fuck is probably going to make you say what the fuck. So we're going to talk about it. And don't forget, we always have the penis report on Wednesdays. I don't know why it's a thing, but it's a thing. Thursday nights is Jeff's garage. If it fits in the garage, they're going to talk about it. Fridays is nonsense and chill. My boy, please. And Jeff watching movies, hanging out and conversating.
02:31:52
Speaker
We're making a little movie club, man. You guys can watch the movies with them. Uh, Saturday nights is the main event here on the network. It is the end all be all the coup de girl, if you will, unhinged, unapologetic. We do what we want and we say what we want and we have a good fucking time. And then we got the open door challenge, basically with the open door challenges. We put that link in the chat and we dare you guys to accept the challenge or be brave enough. You click that link, you come on and you hang out with us and you have a good time.
02:32:22
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And then we wrap the week up with a little unnecessary roughness. It's your kickoff to the NFL. We're talking all things football, college football, NFL. We're making our picks. We're making our predictions and we're talking shit. And that's me, Derek Wayne Douglas, former guest on this show and my boy, big Rick. What more could you ask for? I got a lot of things going on. A lot of fun being had.
02:32:52
Speaker
A lot of changes coming in the new year. Buckle up. It's going to be fun. It's going to be one hell of a ride. And again, I said it already. I'm going to say it Saturday, and I'm going to say it. Yeah, Saturday's the last. Oh, I got wind. No. Yeah, i got i got I got like one or two shows. But thank you guys so much for for supporting us. Thank you guys so much for watching. um Shout out to all the musicians who who take a risk and come on, come on in and hang out with me. Been another wild year, y'all. And we're gonna keep on doing what we do. Make sure you follow us, make sure you like us, make sure you share us, and remember, be good, or be good at it, baby. See you next time on The Licks House When You See.
02:33:52
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02:34:44
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nas but the vot just right tune
02:34:55
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always on repeat