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Lich Please! Episode 1
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Lich Please podcast. The soon to be number one D&D podcast in the UK and possibly even the world. I'm here, as always, with my co-host Alex. I'm Euan. Do you want to talk some D&D for a bit? Yeah, let's talk. Here we go. So, first episode.
Euan's D&D Journey
00:00:23
Speaker
This is a big one. You can find stuff out about us. We'll go with, yeah, I guess we'll start with the,
00:00:30
Speaker
how we got into D&D. Yeah, well, mine was kind of interesting. I started with 4.5, just with a friend of mine. Well, a friend, well, two friends, and a friend's brother, he DMed for us. But we didn't do it for too long, because it was like, we were like 17, 18, and like in the UK, you'll know that that's the point where you start thinking, uni, you need to get everything done for uni. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we ended up stopping.
00:00:59
Speaker
I think after two or three sessions, I was a warlock. A warlock allowed you in in 4.5, which was interesting. It was fun for the couple of sessions we played. Then left for uni. Then 2019, I think some of my uni friends wanted to do D&D. My original DM, he had also come to save uni for me, so I knew he was local. I was like, would you be interested in DMing for us? He was down for it.
00:01:29
Speaker
And then he DM'd two sessions, Mejime being like, I can't deal with your friends. They are far too chaotic. I'm not doing it. So I was like, you know what, I'll do it. How hard, how hard can DMing be? I think that this is identified sessions of D&D as a player. Split across fifth edition and 4.5. And Jesus, um, I don't even,
00:01:55
Speaker
first session horrendous i cannot explain to you how bad it went um we did Hall of the Dragon Queen um so they started with walking towards the town they could see the blue dragon attacking and the color of the dragon attacking the town they took i want to say 10 steps in town decided why do we care about these people and left i was there like no no no no no no the book says you help
00:02:23
Speaker
No, no, no. You've got to help them. This is the story. And they were like, obviously I didn't vocalize that to them. So they were just like wandering around. I invented a new town down the road and they spent like most of the session in a tab and I'm like, well, that was fun. But like, we didn't do anything. And I was like, yeah, because you've left. And that started my deep dislike of modules.
00:02:51
Speaker
I think the only one I've ran since is lost minds. Yeah, I'd never again. Never again. Yeah, fair enough.
Alex's RPG Beginnings
00:03:02
Speaker
Yeah, my mom was a bit different. So I've never at the end, obviously, you know that people don't know that. But I will be. But my introduction. So my uncle, he used to live at the house, he liked where I live.
00:03:16
Speaker
He lived there for quite a while. He did like a games night with his friends every week on a Wednesday. So he played D&D for like a while. And he would bring games home. Not D&D games, just games in general home. And then I think, yeah, like board games. So he played a few like pandemic. That's when he brought like one night off, like a few just board games, right? And then he brought, yeah.
00:03:45
Speaker
And he brought Gloomhaven. So this was like back in, I don't know, 2019? Oh, no, it might've been 2020 actually, because we were playing a lot during COVID. So he brought Gloomhaven for us. And basically, if you don't know what Gloomhaven is, it's this RPG, right? It's turn-based like D&D, but you have characters and they have cards, and you play two cards per turn, and it's like you get an action on the top and an action on the bottom, and you choose one card's action,
00:04:14
Speaker
And then you choose the opposite on the other card. And that's how you play. Right. So like, yeah. And then it will be like each card has a, has a default of the bottom would be like move to, and the top would be attacked to, but then you could choose to do something else that's stated on the top as opposed to moving or attacking. Right. Um, so it's like an RPG and there's a whole, there's a preset story, um, with like side quests and stuff. And it's a massive world. Um, there's actually a PC version, which I do have, um, because it is fun, uh, get off steam.
00:04:44
Speaker
Um, but so that was my introduction to RPGs. And then I always wanted to play D&D anyways, because all the stuff I've heard about it from my uncle. Um, so I actually talked to him about getting into campaign, but obviously COVID. So you couldn't. So he told me to go on Facebook group chats or just group chats, like search the internet. So I joined the, the UK one and, um, like fine, like, uh, what was it find a campaign or something? Uh, and then I, yeah.
00:05:14
Speaker
So then I got exactly a year ago, I think, is when I when I was looking. And then so I think it was the first week of September last year is when I went to my first campaign. So I got an invite to a big server, which was like is an American server. I didn't know. So it was like a server for everyone. Right. OK. But I got a message off the UK Dungeons and Dragons attack.
00:05:44
Speaker
So I was like, okay, so it's an English thing. So like, that's fine. It will be at normal times, sane times. And then I found out as an American, and I was like, oh no. I was like, I'm going to be staying up late to play D&D. Ah. So yeah, then I joined my first campaign, which was, for me, it was Mondays. Well,
00:06:07
Speaker
It would be 1 a.m. of a Monday. So for them it'd be Monday. For me it'd be Tuesday 1 a.m. for like three hours till 4 a.m. Yeah, yeah, it was. I'm still in it. I still, even if I have to work, I still go, I go to work tired. I'm still in it. So it's very good. Yeah. So I got introduced to that.
00:06:35
Speaker
I am, believe it or not, the only English person in the campaign and probably the server. I'm shot. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Shot. So, like, canonically, my character speaks differently than everyone else. Not only because I'm English, because every time they say something that is inherently wrong, I have to correct him. For instance, they were talking, I think, like, three weeks ago. Maybe it was a bit longer than that, but
00:07:04
Speaker
There was a session, we went to a tavern in another city, and then one of them ordered some biscuits, and I knew biscuits for them is like English mushrooms for us, or like scones, so I was like, no, no, that's not what that is. And then they started taking a piss out of beans on toast. And I was like, all right then, beans on toast is amazing. That's a national dish. That's exactly what I said. I told him, I said, beans on toast is amazing. But okay. You can't attack beans on toast.
00:07:34
Speaker
But yeah, so that was my first campaign. And then, yeah, literally my OG character died. So my first character got TPK'd the worst way possible in that campaign. I think it was literally three sessions ago is when... Yeah, I think you were telling us about it a while back. Yeah, it was bad. So we have a few NPCs in the party, right? One of them is a healer.
00:08:03
Speaker
And we were going to fight a death knight. So we're level nine at this point I was six levels in monk three levels in Ranger Dragonborn, right? Yeah, it's actually fun because I was a dragonborn with the the awakened dragon monk subclass and then the Drake and warden Ranger subclass So it's just a dragon who can do dragon things with a pet dragon, right? That's not like cool. Yeah. Yeah, it was very fun
00:08:33
Speaker
until basically we're fighting the death knight and then he casts his bow on our healer, which made her attack me. Now, our healer is like, bear in mind, my dragonborn is seven foot tall, a monk and quite strong. And our healer is like a five foot seven elf. You know, like she's not strong, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're fighting. Then there's like a mini earthquake thing. So and then somehow I failed.
00:09:03
Speaker
on a Dex saving throw. Bear in mind that I am a monk and I get proficient in Dex saving throws, right? So somehow I failed. What was your bonus? Oh, it was high. It was a high bonus. It must be like plus eight or something. Right. That's mad. And you failed. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think I rolled a three and then it was just like. OK. Yeah. Makes sense. Yeah. But that session was full of bad rolls. Right. So I failed the same throw. I went prone. She passed it.
00:09:33
Speaker
Um, so she went
World Building and DM Advice
00:09:36
Speaker
on top of me when I was prone and proceeded to strangle me to death with her staff, right? So we did, we had to do strength for poses. Um, I'm not one three times. Um, yeah. So, so we matched roles. Uh, so there was two occasions we matched roles like multiple times that we just went, okay, nothing's going to happen this round because we, we, we actually matched like five times in a row. So we just said, ah,
00:10:02
Speaker
We're not going to roll and get the job, can't be bothered. So he just said, you know, you're a stalemate. But then I'm not one three times. I didn't even that's only once. That's the worst part. So the healer, not one, I think once, not 20 twice. And then just was rolling higher than me regardless. And she is like up plus zero in strength. I've got like plus three. So it was like sad because I straight up just got strangled to death by the healer.
00:10:30
Speaker
And the worst part was my last that one was When I had like one HP left so damage was doubled and I just I just died like it was just And like bear in mind in this campaign technically I've died before Like twice so like one was we died like I died in a ruins But you had to die to get out that was like the whole
00:10:59
Speaker
the whole thing of it, it was like I meant it. And the second time was like a backstory related one and then I died and then the healer revivified me, right? So technically I'd already died before, but that was, no one knew that was going to happen. So yeah, I had to make a new character, basically. At like four in the morning, my character died. I was just sat there like, oh, well,
00:11:28
Speaker
What do I do now? Yeah. Right. Very interesting. But yeah, that's how I got into D&D and then obviously I joined your campaign. Yeah, you did. Back in February? I'm going to say Feb. I feel like it was Feb. It was something like that. Yeah, Feb was when we started talking about a campaign, I think.
00:11:51
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, because I remember you sending me the message about the campaign and I was on the way back from a week away at Brighton. So I think it's February. Yes. No, I remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, it must have been February. And then we started the actual sessions in March. Probably, possibly early March. Yeah. It took us a while to get set up. And, um, yeah, I mean, there's been, I think like eight, 17, 18.
00:12:19
Speaker
17 around there. So yeah, it sounds like we had session 19 on Monday Yeah, yeah, cuz we haven't missed many Too many no not huge amount. We're pretty good on keeping I think only like three or four I think No, no, and that was just recently like because people would like it's holiday season, right? So I
00:12:43
Speaker
People get busy and things get difficult. It's not fun to skip a session when someone's not there. But no, you guys are doing interesting things. Yeah, that's my goal, just interesting things. Interesting things. I mean, your character has kind of changed his motivation at the minute, right? You came in being like,
00:13:08
Speaker
This guy wants to be a knight. He's doing all this cool stuff. And now he's just like, you know what? I'm going to be a merchant. I'm going to buy and sell alcohol. Everywhere you go, you're like, can I roll up to find alcohol? I have a gene and toad steel tonic. Oh, yeah. He's made me make up. It's the old side hustle is what it is. He'll wrap around. When his character comes, he'll wrap around. Don't worry. He'll be there. He'll find his way. He can be a knight still. He can be moonlighting as a traitor.
00:13:36
Speaker
Yeah, he'll find his way. I hope. Yeah, somehow. But yeah, so that's. Yeah, you've only done homebrew campaign and you've never been in a I've never been in a module. Never ever. So that's kind of interesting. Yeah. And so I've been in four campaigns. Right. So one was obviously the one I started. And then I joined another one, which was like a homebrew on another server.
00:14:06
Speaker
I dropped out that campaign like three weeks in because firstly, like three people had already dropped out because they couldn't make it anymore. And I think there's six of us. So there's three of us left. And then like it just faded. So that campaign. That was a homebrew one. And then I was in AD&D first edition one, which was really good because
00:14:33
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't even know it was going to be that. It was just, I got an invite on the server. I was on, I thought he was just promoting a campaign. He wanted to do. So I was like, okay, cool. I'll join that. Turns out it was a whole server, uh, with this massive home brew, A and D, uh, a D and D one edition campaign. And I sat there trying to like understand the rules and I played, I played, I think like three sessions before I just left the set up because
00:14:59
Speaker
It's not like it was a bad, it was a really good and the DM is a great guy. Um, but like, I just, uh, it can be intense. It's different, isn't it? Yeah, it's different. That's, that's hard to label it. Like the, especially because of the first edition, uh, there's significantly amount different with five E and I started on five E. So it's like, okay, wow. Um, yeah, yeah, this is weird. Um, and then I just left like,
00:15:28
Speaker
It was fun. It was fun. And that server was, to be fair, it was really well built up. He would basically run sessions on the server with different people. So you could end up finding the people who weren't in your session somewhere. And then you do a session with them. It was like this massive world, right? So that was really cool. Because I had sessions with, I mean, he did just one-on-one session. My first session was a one-on-one session.
00:15:58
Speaker
Yeah. And then I found some people and I did a session with them. And then my first session was weird. There was this guy who was like really argumentative with the DM. Yeah. And then like straight after we finished that session, he was kicked from the server. And then there's just a message going like, Oh, uh, Sally, I've had to kick someone because he was arguing with the rules I made, which I clearly explained was homebrew.
00:16:23
Speaker
because he was trying to use the oh that's not how it works in AD&D but he was like a homebrew thing and he changed the rules slightly to match his world which is stated on the server so I was like okay yeah and then and then I just left and then right yeah and then your campaigns and that's all the campaigns I've been in basically so yeah it's an unpopular opinion and I'm gonna but
00:16:52
Speaker
I'd really think the modules are harder than homebrewing. I can agree with that. You've got the preset world, right? But you want to follow the preset world, but it's hard to do that because it's a campaign. That's my point. If I write my own campaign and homebrew everything, I to a degree know that I can say whatever I want and edit it because it's only in my head, like it doesn't matter.
00:17:16
Speaker
Yeah,
Modules vs Homebrew Debate
00:17:17
Speaker
it's very difficult to read a book, especially for like me as a dyslexic to remember to memorize all of that. And to edit things on the fly because you guys are not you ever. And I think that goes for any DM you never your plan never works out because they will do some shit. Oh, yeah, it never works out. Yeah, so being able to edit. I mean, I respect any DM who can do that to another level if you can on the fly edit a campaign book in your head.
00:17:46
Speaker
I give you props because I would be too nervous like oh what if I change this if I fuck something up later down the line but with homebrew I think easy so new DM I reckon start if you want to get into comfortable with DMing run a couple of one shots homebrew your players aren't going to give a fuck if it's not great just have a couple of sessions being able to manage things before diving into a campaign proper yeah I think modules wise I think that they're good if
00:18:15
Speaker
If you and your friends have never played D&D and you want to run a few sessions and you're obviously like, you don't have a DM, get a module, run the session forum from a book, right? Because the first time you played D&D, you're not going to do something absolutely crazy out of the way things like you're just going to logically follow the story. It's when you start playing a few more sessions and you realize you can just do what you want.
00:18:40
Speaker
then everything just goes off road. That's when you start doing homebrew stuff. But if you're getting into D&D, modules are a good start. Don't get me wrong, starting at home railroads is great as well. If you want to get into D&D with your friends you've never played and you want to DM your own world, cool. Go ahead, knock yourself out. But if you just want to taste our modules are good. That's how I look at it. Modules can help with new people, but otherwise there's no problem.
00:19:04
Speaker
The one addition I would make is, if you're someone who's never played D&D, but you've watched every season of Critical Role or every season of Engine 20, you can DM. Oh yeah, yeah, no. What about now? You probably know the rules better than most people. You can absolutely DM, no problem. Because you've consumed so many hours of D&D at that point. You are comfortable. You know the rules. Even if you don't think you do, when you get into it, you will know what to do.
00:19:33
Speaker
So you can absolutely DM off the back of that 100%. Definitely watching. I don't think you're missing anything.
Campaign Maps and Lore
00:19:40
Speaker
You're possibly missing like the smallest sliver. Yeah, like just the actual experience. It's nothing really, I don't think. No, I agree. It's like, if you've definitely watched just YouTube D&D, you'll be fine.
00:19:59
Speaker
Because a lot of the time as well, like YouTube, D&D, especially like Critical Role and like Dimension 20, a lot of the time they do a lot of like outrageously cool things for like D&D. So it will help with, even with like world building, it would just be easier as opposed to going straight into a homebrew if you don't understand D&D basically. Exactly. On the topic of world building, you're just getting started
00:20:28
Speaker
I am, I am. I've finished, well, to a degree, finished mine. I'm going to constantly editing it and adding to it and stuff. Yeah. You know, I constantly put new updates in the, in the PDF and just send it in. Like we added a calendar a while back. Yeah. How are you finding home brewing? Is anything like easy, struggling with? Where are you at with it? Oh God. So I procrastinate a lot. This is my thing. I do just not, sometimes I'll sit there.
00:20:56
Speaker
Because I like to I like to do music on which is my downfall Because I will just sit there and listen to the music as opposed to doing any work Sometimes I just do a lot and then sometimes I don't do much, right? But in terms of like building my world I'd say I do so I know a lot of people just go straight into the world building like all the countries the regions the world the map
00:21:25
Speaker
and some like some some history law as well like how the world was created and like mega events right um i don't not straight away it's it's not that i don't have the ideas for it i know what i want to do it's just i would rather sort out like rules and and classes and things because in my eyes that's gonna take longer i don't think i've heard that before yeah i i just think oh
00:21:53
Speaker
I know the, I know the rough basis of what I'm doing a campaign for. Right. So obviously, you know, but I'm, I'm doing a pirate one. Um, and there is, uh, it's, it's, I don't think it's too difficult to world build a pirate campaign, right? There's, there's a lot of pirate media. There's no way I don't think describe it. Yeah. And I mean, with, with something like a pirate campaign, people are in it for the aspect of being a pirate. So you can fully lean into those tropes because that's what people wanting and expect from it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
00:22:23
Speaker
100%. So that's why I'm not too fussed on the world building. Like with part with world building as well, you don't have to go absolutely mental because a lot of world building will also take place when you're DMing.
Pirate Campaign Mechanics
00:22:36
Speaker
I dig up my 72 page document. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I don't start with a world building brought especially for the pirate campaign.
00:22:52
Speaker
Um, there are a lot of, uh, like homebrew pirate worlds you can find on the internet, which is like, it's helpful. Um, but like rules wise, they all differ. So I think there was even a, there was a specific book. I can't remember what it was, um, that it wasn't, it's not like a, uh, D&D Beyond like Wizards of the Coast book or anything. Like it's, um,
00:23:17
Speaker
just like a home brew source book and everyone was suggesting like, oh, check this out. The rules are cool. And the rules are all right. Like they were cool, but people had a third party product kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was just checking out the actual stuff that was put out. Oh, yeah, of course. Just got to get that thing in there. But yeah, I was checking out the rules. The rules are good.
00:23:43
Speaker
For instance, like for the four at sea bowels, right? Because obviously you're on a ship. Yeah. And it's going to be different as to a regular regular fights because a you can't run up to them and smack them because you're a ship. Yeah. So likely it varies. But like I've just taken some rules and stuff I've seen and I've edited my own in because I feel like something like combat wise,
00:24:10
Speaker
for the rules that were there, it felt kind of slow. So I was like, OK, I'll edit it a bit like. But I think something on the rules was each player has their turn and to do something, they've got to like move to where the part. So, for instance, like if you wanted to move the ship, you would in character move your character to the wheel and move it basically. And you'd have to move the ship. So you have to have
00:24:40
Speaker
person at every station to do something but I'd also mean like a ship versus one ship would take all of their turns and then the ships turn because I'm not going to do the NPC's turns like there's no point on the ship I'll just be like oh the ship does this but then it would take everyone's turns to do something so I've decided little spoiler here for some rules what I'll do is you'll talk about
00:25:07
Speaker
the thing you want to do on the ship just at once like I'm not going to say like everyone discusses and then okay we move the ship we shoot with the things we roll whatever basically so instead of like individual turns each ship has a turn to it's like one to the other kind of thing yeah it's like the ship is like the pc but it has got six people playing that piece yeah that really speeds up combat and keeps exciting keeps things flowing a lot better than
00:25:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that's good. I like that. And then I'll give like, for instance, like if the. So there are some rules I read some. So I've got a PDF of like different types of ships and there are rules basically. Eventually you start losing movement speed on the ship because you're taking damage like after a certain amount, you move like five feet until you're at zero hit points with the ship and then you can't move because that's like how ships work. Like it gets destroyed enough. They can't make sense when it gets to that point, it will just be.
00:26:08
Speaker
everyone else rolls an initiative because then you're going to get boarded, likely, or you're going to do boarding because it's a pirate campaign. Right. And then it will be back to regular terms of like how you do it, basically. But ship battle wise, it's just going to be like ship go, ship go. I think. Yeah. Ship one, ship two kind of thing. Yeah. Right. Okay. I think it would just be, it would just be easier to manage as well. Yeah.
00:26:37
Speaker
I've seen a lot of people, and I think it was possibly Matt Mercer that said this, but the way that he will build it, like he starts small and expands. It might just be my dyslexic brain, but I don't do that. I think that is incredibly difficult to do. And, you know, he's a professional DM with like millions in his pocket, but I think he's wrong. I'm saying that right now.
00:27:04
Speaker
He's arguably the greatest human generation, but I think he's wrong on this. Matt Mercer, when you're listening to this, remember that. Just remember that you're wrong. You're wrong. You can learn something from me here now. So what I do is I'll go to your favorite map making software, whatever it is you use, we're not going to promote anyone without being paid on here. But whatever you use, I just could generate landmass until I find one I like. Yeah.
00:27:33
Speaker
And then I'll start adding in like trees and terrain and biomes. And by adding things like mountain and foresting, you can start to like develop like almost natural borders. And that way you can kind of like carve out your countries and then you can start looking at it like, okay, well, these two countries don't like each other. Why don't they like each other? They both want the mountain. Why do you want the mountain? There's a holy site in the fucking mountain or something. You can start like, cause once you've got the two Kake,
00:28:03
Speaker
holy site, who's the holy site for this God? Who's that God for? God of the sky, God of mountains, God of earth or whatever it is. And then you can, I think that's the easiest way for me to look at building it because okay, you've got the two countries now, okay, one of them's a monarchy, one of them's an empire, that kind of development is the way that I look at it and delve so bigger and then delve in.
00:28:29
Speaker
Which I think you can see by reading my I think that's kind of obvious. Yeah a little bit Yeah, I mean I got to some extent. I do agree. So before I was Started the pirate one. I was just
Character Arcs and Story Developments
00:28:46
Speaker
gonna do like some generic one and I had had like like I was like 30 minutes worth of world building and
00:28:54
Speaker
is hard to describe, right? You can get a lot done in 30 minutes. Yeah, I think I did the whole map, every country's name and all their relations. So my way of doing it is I get the map, I make the countries and then I decide what the factions will be just based off how the countries are built. So I had one like the middle country was the capital and like everyone loves the capital because like they took over the whole world like whenever
00:29:24
Speaker
And then so they're cool with everyone. But then it was like groups of like sections off the capstone, like Northeast, Southeast, sorry, Northwest, Southwest, Northeast, Southeast, like just them generic sections. And they'd all be like relative to their own factions. And then some other would hurt in personal relationships. But yeah, I just split into factions and then decide. But for pirate campaigns, split into factions is absolutely the best way to do it.
00:29:52
Speaker
because instead of big countries, it's going to be like archipelagos and stuff and like small islands and whatnot that are owned by a faction. So it's like when pirates existed and you had England and Spain and they were just like France and stuff and they just own a lot like islands and then you move over to some other islands and then it's like Spain's and then they're really close but like they're opposing factions as opposed to like
00:30:20
Speaker
So like mine will have like four or five factions. Um, and then I, so I think what I'm going to do is like, when I have the factions forum, um, the party's relationship with different factions will be obviously affected of how they work with the faction, but it will all start neutral. Like, for instance, you can have a really good relationship with, um, just one faction and they'll help you with stuff. But then the other fact is like, Oh, that's awful.
00:30:47
Speaker
We're going to fight you if you come to us. Stuff like that. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's good. I like that. That'd be fun to navigate. So I've already, I mean, I've already told you what kind of character I'm going to be making in your power campaign. My plan is to just make an old lady who just found herself on the ship and just got into the crew. She's just like, oh, I'm here.
00:31:15
Speaker
Yeah, the old days. Yeah. So obviously, you know, but obviously the people was listening. But I'm also because it's a pirate campaign. Yes, it's a fancy pirate campaign, but there's not a lot of classes that are just pre-made for a pirate campaign, right? Like there's obviously Swashbuckler, right? Swashbuckler Road. That exists. Yeah. Cool. You can use that if you want to. But
00:31:45
Speaker
I've decided everyone's gonna have a homebrew subclass. Or, I mean, I have to, obviously. I'm not gonna force anyone if you can have a regular subclass, right? But at least everyone agreed in the chat, to some degree, that we would go through a subclass. Because I would like it as well, as opposed to, let's say you just, I don't know, have some, some, I don't know, runenite fighter, right? Like, it's cool, you're a runenite,
00:32:14
Speaker
can do stuff like whatever right but like it might not off because I'm gonna start everyone at the levels where they've got their subclass it's not gonna work in your backstory necessarily like you'd have to write around that so I want is to come up with a backstory and then we'll write a subclass around the backstory so that is like so you have freedom with the backstory yeah yeah so that's like so what I want is I'll set every like each person down at one point and then
00:32:42
Speaker
We'll go through a rough backstory and then I'll give them some lore to help with the backstory and just like a rough outline. And then we'll, we'll do the subclass because, you know, I've done subclasses before, like I know how to build stuff. Cool. We'll shoot some ideas and then that's their subclass and it will be a part of their backstory. Yeah, that makes sense. So then for instance, like let's briefly, let's briefly discuss mine now. I want the old lady to be a warlock.
00:33:11
Speaker
And I wanted to play a warlock about an ancient Kraken. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I like that. That's actually really cool. So that could be like the subclass. It will be named something to do the Kraken, but we could do something like, oh, when she was younger, she was a part of this. Yeah. Like when she was younger, she was a part of this. She was a part of a cult or like she could have been a cult or maybe she was a part of
00:33:41
Speaker
small island like which are like a small like unknown island full of people like like a like a unknown tribe unknown island or whatever and then that they were all like chilling one day and they all got along and it was it was a nice little habitat. Kraken comes kills them that could be one of them or it could be like
00:34:05
Speaker
they work with the Kraken so I think yeah so so it's like a it's in a really bad area of the planet one where there's a lot of like sea monsters and stuff right and not many people can't get to it but because they've lived there and grown up there they're used to it and they work with the Kraken for things and it'll be something like that and then you can we can do you like oh
00:34:30
Speaker
The subjects are like, if it's a warlock, I think, um, level like six or something, they get their second like ability or something. It could be something like, um, oh, you've worked with a crack in your whole life. Um, you're used to, you know, how they work. Like you can do some sort of attack for some amount of damage and the attack is related to the crack. And it could be like, um, it could be, um, uh, three times per, per long rest. You can.
00:35:00
Speaker
shoot ink out of your hands right uh it blinds them and you get advantage on attacks for them until they but they have to pass like a deck save to dodge it yeah and then a constitution save to get rid of the the blindness effect and then it max lasts like three turns like something like that right now we've learned all like her arm turns into a tentacle it's called tentacle tickle or something yeah but yeah that's um
00:35:32
Speaker
That's what I want to do because I think it'd be more enjoyable if everyone had a subclass for their backstory because you know this and the others don't yet but if they listen to the podcast, which they will, they're going to hear it. So obviously for your campaign,
00:35:58
Speaker
I don't know about any of the others, right? I don't know, their subclass or anything. As far as I'm concerned, I'm the only person who's homebrewed their subclass before your campaign. I can neither confirm nor deny that. Sure. I can neither, yeah, I can neither confirm nor deny that. But, yeah. I mean, I've mentioned it before, I've homebrewed some
00:36:23
Speaker
some homework classes based on decisions that you might make. I if you fuck up, this might happen to you. Yeah. But yeah, it should be good. Yeah. So I obviously for yours, I homemode my sub class, which is which is cool, by the way. I'm not going to spoil anything because the people are listening. Obviously, it's going to be the Monday session as well. They'll be listening. So they I can't tell them anything, you know,
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah, so it's a it's cool. That's what you got. No, it's cool. It's fun. It's going to be interesting. It is cool. It's fun. Yeah. Sadly, the recent book, I think it's like big, big bees, big bees, something like that. The recent, the giant one. Yeah. I was checking out their subclass. They've taken inspiration from me. That's all I'm going to say. They've read my subclass. Right. We're going to. I think there's like 12 views and like eight ads.
00:37:22
Speaker
they must have they must have seen it world famous oh absolutely development for a few years now but yeah no so at least you got it out before them so no one can accuse you of copywriting it exactly mine's got a caller name as well so you know there's just like a path of the giant
00:37:44
Speaker
Mine is, I'm not going to say it yet. You guys will find out what the subclass is when the others find out what the subclass is. Will the party find out what the subclass is? Yeah, basically. Because it's cool. I guess let's talk about the party for a bit. We've got Finnan, the half elf bard. Yes, the half elf bard. Lashara.
00:38:14
Speaker
I thought the siren was a regular. I always get it wrong. I know the player is listening and they're going to be raging, but Layla, Layla, whatever it is. They're a rogue. Astra is a half elf. Monk.
00:38:42
Speaker
Yes. Many, many, many, just many regular, regular half-elf guys. Nothing to worry about. Just, just many regular half-elf and elf wandering around. And then don't forget the most regular half-elf. Yeah. Yeah. Very regular half-elf. Pale, regular half-elf who floats. Yes. With wings. With wings. Paladin. Nice little half-elf paladin. And then there's, there's me.
00:39:11
Speaker
I would be like, yeah. I'm the special one. Yeah. Yeah. We all love Dan though. Dan is great. Dan is amazing. Yeah. We do love Dan. Yeah. But there's one, something happened in it. Was it the second session or even first session? That has now become a major plot point in the campaign. I'm going to say it was the second session, I think.
00:39:40
Speaker
I had made a map on another very famous map making software. And I'd added a chest in just for some decoration. Lashara, as we have discovered, has an affinity for searching every possible thing that she can find. Walked up into the chest and I went, is there anything in it? And I went, well, there is now, isn't there? Now you've asked, there's something in it.
00:40:09
Speaker
opens the chest, finds some buttons. Button is hiding some gold. Masara doesn't just taste the gold like I thought she would. Takes the entire set of buttons. They might be worth something. Fuck. Right. Okay. Got to find a way to implement buttons into this fucking thing now. By the time they've walked back to town, the button guard has been born and they're talking about the button guard. I'm like, fuck, I've got to make a fucking button guard.
00:40:37
Speaker
And now we have a button, a button guard, there's button law, there's the supreme order, no, the supreme order of the arcane button, there's button law, there are button mantras, there's a button pope, there's an entire cult surrounding this. And it's just, it was, I don't know, it got away from me and I regret doing it.
00:41:01
Speaker
It was interesting. We've not talked about the old button god in a while, though. I'll tell you what, mate. Since we're on this- Yeah, Bertram is the button god. He's watching. He's alright. No, we haven't seen him in a while, obviously. We've been on a little slotted adventure. That was fun. That was interesting.
00:41:26
Speaker
It's too fair, it was very enjoyable. One of the multiple moments that I've lost a lot of hit points. Which by the way, I'd like to put this out. Me and Tyr, I think, on aggregate, have lost the most hit points. We both have the highest AC in health. Like just straight up. Yeah, like, we're tanks, but like, we straight up just get hit a lot. I mean, it's because you both are just up there all the time. True. Yeah, definitely.
00:41:55
Speaker
There's just good roles, just keep getting a smash in the face. But yeah, I mean, Tyr went down. I've still yet to go down, I think. I've been close, but I have potions and like stones endurance or whatever it is. So yeah, that's that's that's the time. So I managed to get away with it. But like Tyr just just yeah, he went down when we were fighting the the spell man.
00:42:25
Speaker
Um, at the, uh, at the tower. Yes. I think he took a fire person in the face. Yeah. Yeah. The guy with the mark who Leshara cut his skin off to save it. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's interesting. It's an, it's an interesting array of a pie. Um, but that, that first fight was, was, there was a slard was meant to be a lot more terrifying than it was, but then fucking tail ruined all my plans. That was absolutely amazing.
00:42:54
Speaker
Big, big brain move. That was absolutely amazing. Really impressive. I was really happy with that. But at the end, I was like, no. No, my fight. You ruined it. No. You can't do this. So much worse, because you decided to split the party. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll cut out. So I was like, oh, crap. Am I going to kill someone here? Yeah. If I remember, it was me to Finnan.
00:43:24
Speaker
And Astra, that went to the Slard. I don't think Astra was there. I think Astra went with... Oh, it was in Lashara. So she went with Lashara and Leila Leila to grumble this house, to search the house. Yeah, it was... We absolutely would have died if Tyr had not performed. Yeah, I think so. The absolute insanity that he performed. Yeah, no, it would have been difficult.
00:43:52
Speaker
That man took a lot of damage. It also doesn't help that I hit less with my axe than average. You did, you did miss a lot. Yeah. To be fair, it depends. Session-wise, it depends. Sometimes I'll hit all the time. But the first few sessions when we were fighting goblins, I swear to God I didn't get killed. And it was hell.
00:44:20
Speaker
Yeah, I genuinely think I got a kill. Yeah, because in character I was talking about not getting one. Because Dan has a minor obsession for killing things. Stake that to his upbringing, yeah. So yeah, it's interesting.
Character Backstories and Secrets
00:44:40
Speaker
I do love the party though. It's diverse, that's why I like it.
00:44:43
Speaker
Firstly, no one's got the same class, which helps. That's good. I think that's a good, that's a good thing. I don't like running multiple classes because I feel like it takes away from someone who's like playing that class if you know what I mean. Like it does. Yeah. What's the word? I can't think of the word. It's a bit Welsh. If you don't understand me, no one will understand me. I doubt it.
00:45:10
Speaker
Deprived that's the way deprived. Yeah one of like an integral part that class if you've got two of the same Yeah, I'm glad nice. It's good What's your what's your what's your been your favorite like? Fight in terms of what we've done. I think I know the answer My favorite fine. Oh, that's a good question Like fight like all combat or like are we speaking like just like any strength checks we would have had previously
00:45:40
Speaker
for instance let's say favorite combat and then favorite like rp moment or something like that favorite combat i've got to think that i've got to think of the other what fights we've been we've done a lot of goblins uh the slards yeah a lot of goblins you did the um the necromancer yeah i think when was it um yeah it's got to be the necromancer fight it's the most recent one but it is it's absolutely my favorite fight
00:46:10
Speaker
yeah it would be good that was the first time i've never got inspiration as well so that was fun yeah i know that you didn't do you deserved that that was really good yeah um that fight was interesting i wasn't expecting it to go on as long as it did nearly six hours that combat was oh yeah it was a lot shorter if a member of the party had engaged in the fight and not the shara sorry bad cough bad cough not throwing shade at the shara at all
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah, she likes her. They got hairy. Oh. We almost went permadeath. Yeah, that was close. I think Lila was it. She nearly permadeath. Yeah, she got hit by a lightning bolt. By the way, they're level two and they are fighting slards, necromancers and all this stuff. Yeah, I'm actually going to clarify. We are in fact level two. You are level two. In terms of like combat wise, we're all level two, but
00:47:07
Speaker
some of us are really squishy like even for level twos like straight up like I think Lila and Finnan um yeah squishy as hell they see for a while there yeah I think it can't be that much higher than 12 anymore sure it's no and she's got like 14 health oh he's got like 14 health Finnan yeah um and then I think Lila's got like at 12 health um
00:47:36
Speaker
I think it is 12 health because I strictly remember I have double her health. That's how I view it. Like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh no, I'm into half health. Yeah. Cause so I've got, I've got 24 and an 18 AC, which would be 19 when we get back to Phallion, which I'm looking forward to. Cause I'd get hit with an 18 AC so much. Yeah, that'd be good. You didn't need to do that. You've got a few things to do there. You've got that sword that you've done last session. I do.
00:48:04
Speaker
Yes. I'm very annoyed that you checked out. I think that's the first item that you guys have like used, identified on another. No. No. I think, I genuinely think if Dan found that by himself, without anybody there, he would have picked it up straight up by the hill. No doubt he would have picked it up. It could have been a TPK. Oh, yeah. It could have been really bad. Like,
00:48:33
Speaker
It could have come very awfully. Luckily, people are around. But I know Dan's plans for this sword now. Well, obviously I do. I do need to speak to the blacksmith for multiple things. But I want to see if he can... Yeah, you want to talk to Elmar to get him to uncurse the blade. I mean, he likes you guys because... I don't know why. Yeah, I failed to understand. He shouldn't. He really shouldn't. But hey.
00:49:03
Speaker
I think that's one by me. It's possibly my favourite roleplay moment that you guys have done, because that really set the party up. For context, they were sent on a wagon protection. First mission, I thought, OK, they'll breeze through this. Gave them the option to, they got attacked by goblins. One escape, I gave them the option to follow them. These guys follow and leave the wagons.
00:49:30
Speaker
obviously the wagons get attacked. There were four wagons to begin with, two at the end, one with stuffing, one with bodies. Elmo's grandmother died in that attack. Yeah. It's an interesting, interesting. Yeah, it is. It is very interesting. It's actually
00:49:52
Speaker
maybe the biggest plot point of the whole thing, I think. I think it's currently the main driver that you guys have got, is to get rid of the stigma behind your abilities. Yeah, I think it's inherently important for Dan. So the others haven't asked. All they know is that I didn't become a Knight. But I think they know the drive that Dan will just... The reason he's being a Venturer is so that he can get status to become a Knight.
00:50:22
Speaker
Right, so the whole logic of we fucked up is like the driving point for Dan to go on missions and make everything right. Because obviously Dan is Dan. A, he likes killing things so that helps. But B, he does help people as opposed to not helping. It's also the relationship you've got with the guild master. Yes, yes.
00:50:51
Speaker
I think that's on his mind a lot. Yeah, it's it's stressful for Dan. It plays on him. Yeah, because that's definitely a driving point. But I think I think it varies for the party as well. To be fair, not a lot of talk until last session about general backstories happened. So that's true. That's very true. Yeah. I mean, two of them are being very secretive. Yeah.
00:51:19
Speaker
And that actually for me breeds what, the biggest compliment I can get as a DM is the fact that you've got your plotting group behind my back. Like, because that, that makes me feel so happy that you're like, okay, we need to make this to like talk about this shit. We actually had, um, I'm doing a good job in like running and like getting your thinking about shit. Yeah. We had one for, um, for everyone without the shower and light loss because all the sessions where you guys went into whispers.
00:51:47
Speaker
We tried, the amount of theories that have been in that chat is absolutely insane. The theory we all agreed on was we fought, and I still think Lila's mom is the Raven Queen. I'm adamant that that is the case. Obviously, we won't know, or we will know. I think it's the case. Obviously, now that we've learned a massive amount of the backstory for them, we have made a group chat solely for figuring out
00:52:17
Speaker
what's wrong with the Raven Queen, with them in it, because now we know their backstory, right? But obviously, there are things that have been let slip out of character that we can't use, like where Lila's from and the half-orc stuff with Nishara, but the theories, I've sat there like, I'm telling you, when I go to go to sleep, I will sit there and think about it.
00:52:47
Speaker
What is happening? I don't take a lot of notes, which is very obvious because every time there's a recap, if I need to do the recap, I will just forget half of it, right?
00:53:01
Speaker
I don't take a lot of notes. Your recall is pretty good though. You remember a lot. I mean, you are a law gremlin. I think you're the one that's done the law the most. I have read through law many, many times with genuinely so much. I've read it. It's a lot. There's a lot there, to be fair. It's impressive you've read it all. Yeah. I think I've read most. I've read all of the gods, all about the ages.
00:53:29
Speaker
The whole of Okra I've read. I think it's Okra, yeah. Because obviously that's my part. And then I've read all the guild stuff, the merchant guilds, all of that. Basically all the final pages where it's not the countries and stuff I've done. The Dawn Age, Okra, Vendron, which I have read.
00:53:59
Speaker
yeah and there's one more the God creatures that kind of things yeah I've done God creatures and I've done everyone everyone yeah and that's that's all the law I've read cuz like I tried to not read country stuff that's what you go there yeah until I go there just for the soul like
00:54:26
Speaker
Obviously Dan's not gonna know it because Dan's not bright like he won't even know all the information I know from the law I think all he'll know is some of the awkward stuff and maybe Like stuff we've learned from other things like that's it But I like to just know it for the theories so but like I haven't noted it down or anything it's just in my head and then I do always permanently like have a window open for it like somewhere and
00:54:54
Speaker
so just a recall that's it yeah yeah that's that I don't take notes I know I think everyone else does I think everyone else takes notes I don't because my notes would be really chaotic and I just I just try and remember everything that happens using Obsidian is really good I think you should use that for your own homebrew yeah to be fair I do have Obsidian for the homebrew so
00:55:25
Speaker
I have, I do actually believe it or not, have a notes folder. And there's only one thing in there for the Oolidore campaign. And that is that list you gave me for the merchants. That's the only thing I've got in there. Oh, God. Yeah. See, I don't think even I've got that written down. I have to dig it out and find it. Yeah, that is genuinely the only thing I've got written.
00:55:53
Speaker
cool down because that's important and I can't forget that so no that's that yeah that's gonna be important for Dan I'm trying to think what you guys are up to now you are you've got the two prophecies right that I gave you well there's one to an individual and you've got the one I gave the group which are different and you are trying to figure out why they are different yes yes which is kind of like annoying for me because I have to have there being like
00:56:23
Speaker
I'm certain in my brain. I've state there's there's three things or like two and a half. I think it'd be either a Lila's the BBG and we've been scammed this whole time like Lila Lusara. That's one of them right because of the process a good theory That's that's what that's I'm like, that's I'm not leaning toward that's like 20% I think it's like I don't think it's gonna be it but like 20% of me thinks it will the other one is
00:56:51
Speaker
The prophecy Lila got was from a fake Raven Queen. I think this is the one we all agree on mutually. That this is likely like she got a fake prophecy. They're trying to get. Yeah. And they're trying to get whoever the hero is going to be, which I think it will be Lila in their prophecy will be their hero. Right. So because obviously they've given her the direct prophecy. Obviously, we don't know if there's other Raven Queen people who have the prophecy, but
00:57:22
Speaker
Yeah, for a little bit of context in this world, the Roman queen has been kidnapped by two demon lords. Yeah. So you think that the demon lords are giving them a prophecy to help them raise the demonic hero to. Yeah. But that's yeah, so. I think that's what that will be. I think that's obviously the line of being the hero part. People haven't talked about. I think she will be the hero for their prophecy.
00:57:49
Speaker
And then the other prophecy is the general prophecy and there will be a group. Maybe us, maybe someone we meet that will be the hero and possibly the party's good friend. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone loves. I think it's going to be personally, I think it will be one of the Nastigas, the Nastigas.
00:58:15
Speaker
I don't know if I'm saying that right. I think it would be one of them because obviously I've law dived. So I know that at some point in time, the first one, the uniter, he was a hero because he took down getting out of the war. So my eyes is, there's going to be one of them that's a hero again and we just help them, I think. Okay, that's interesting. That's the theories I've got so far.
00:58:43
Speaker
I'll give you a little bit of extra lore and I will know if the group are watching.
Reddit Horror Story Discussion
00:58:49
Speaker
Currently, there are three Nardigars living. I and I? I think? Or? No, I and I. I and I was the second king. He was like the second of the nine. So you know about, you know, you directly know about two of them. You know about Gethima, the 25th.
00:59:09
Speaker
he just got crowned. That's that was the first session. Yeah. First session. But you don't know about the third. Oh, that's all I'm going to say. Oh, that's that's. Oh, that's that has that has. Oh, man. That's a big information. That's what that is. That is big information. Yeah. No, that's that's huge information. But I'm quite enjoying this current arc.
00:59:38
Speaker
It's, uh, it's interesting. I like, so obviously when we're paying it, um, I get frustrated. I can't hear what's going on in whispers. That's natural. But I do, it makes things interesting. Um, this is like, so this is like the, uh, for people listening, it's, uh, the first arc and I'm going to call it like the, the, the goblins extermination slash. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the goblin arc. I'm also going to throw in like, it's like a slash.
01:00:05
Speaker
uh the lilah lashara character arc as well is what i'll label it because like yeah this this part of the arc is is their character arc i think um judging by all whispers it's it's fun i like i like seeing how other people's backstories are progressing because i think i've got the least complicated one compared to i think mine is the simplest like when i sat there after a few sessions i was like yeah yeah um i
01:00:34
Speaker
Honestly, I don't know a lot about Finn's backstory. All I know is he's a noble that ran away to do music. That's basically it. Obviously, my backstory has extra things to it, which you know. Obviously, Dan doesn't know the reason why he hasn't become a knight, why I failed the example. He obviously doesn't know.
01:01:02
Speaker
uh no one else knows but if they're listening to us now now they know there's a reason uh so we'll see if they listen um but yeah we should we go into our into our segment which we're gonna do weekly oh yes segment of the segment of the week yeah uh did the horror stories yeah i genuinely love these like reddit stories that
01:01:28
Speaker
Like whatever it is, like I'm either dead or I'm out of the asshole. I love all of them. So I'm excited for this. Are you from this week's? Yes. Yes. So this one's recent. It's three days ago as well. So the title and basically the TLDR is botched character introduction leaves me estranged from the party. Now, when I read this at the start, I was like, oh, so you straight away like the first time you've introduced your character, you straight up just
01:02:07
Speaker
I'm gonna make a prediction. This is bad DMing
01:02:29
Speaker
Okay, that's that's cool. He's used to the enemy, right? So I met this group on a So I met this group on a discord server and for the first few months everything felt quite nice Everyone has an equal part of spotlight encounters were fair, etc, right? I will be keeping character details to a minimum because they're not relevant. That's fine. Yeah understandable
01:02:57
Speaker
The problems only started appearing after the conclusion of the campaign. So the campaign's done, right? This is why I was really confused. It's like, okay. So the DM proposed to continue the story where you can either use the same character, the first campaign's done, right? But they want to continue. So it's not the campaign, you just finished multiple arcs.
01:03:22
Speaker
And the big story of one part of your campaign. Yeah. Okay. And now you're doing like a follow up, right? So the DM said, you can either keep your characters or make new ones of equal level. So two people, the original post and the, uh, another player chose to create new characters. Um, okay. Which they'd be entangled in the plot. And that was going to follow up. Right. So the first session, everything went smoothly until it was so.
01:03:50
Speaker
This is exactly what they said. During the first session, everything went smoothly until it was time for my old character to leave the party. The DM simply exclaimed, he waves and leaves with no chance for me to try and button as he immediately moved on. So he basically said, character goes goodbye. Um, the second character that was to leave the party got to stay for some time, had a few heartfelt goodbyes and a satisfying end to his adventure, apparently. So yeah, that's what he said.
01:04:18
Speaker
Feeling a bit bitter. I managed to stay positive I was quite excited to introduce my new character and the DM had assured me that he'd worked out the details of how they should be introduced About half an hour of role-playing between the remaining PCs later the second players new characters introduced in a very plot heavy scene and immediately cements himself as a valued party member so the scene was the entire party had been falling from a cliff and
01:04:48
Speaker
Um, and he saved them basically. Okay. Um, seeing how well, yeah, it's not an instruction, right? So seeing how well this had been done, I once again, couldn't wait for my time. That is until the DM turned to me and said, your character is there on the ground and just saw all of that happen. Taken a bit by surprise. I nevertheless made the most of it and immediately had my character rush over to investigate. Um, I was met with complete silence.
01:05:17
Speaker
No one even tried to reply to my attempts at roleplay while the previously introduced PC immediately began shouting over everyone else that he absolutely needed to leave. The rest of the party eventually agreed with him and went on their way, leaving my character there without having spoken much more than a sentence. That's horrific. Yeah, and that was it. As much as the DM tried to include my character in the next scene a few miles away, I made it known that considering the circumstances, I could not find any motivation my character would.
01:05:47
Speaker
have to party up with the other PCs. He simply came across a few strangers, and as soon as they fell off the cliff, they were gone. The session ended soon after. I've discussed things with the DM who was very apologetic, but I just can't bring myself to try again. This has completely driven me away from a group I had genuine fun playing with. Yeah, that's it. That's it. My god, that's bad. Yeah.
01:06:17
Speaker
it's it's interesting it is how I put it but so when I when I first went I was like oh these are assholes like straight up like oh they've just not given me a chance but then I started reading yeah then I started reading comments and it kind of dawned on me they might be assholes but
01:06:39
Speaker
He could also have just been an asshole in the previous campaign and they want to cut him out. Now going about it that way is poor. Like going about it was just like, Oh, fuck your character. That's awful. But the same one, it's like he, he could have just realized. I feel like after the third time of your characters, like, like, you know, the first time your original character didn't even get good goodbyes, they just left. And then the second time of your character,
01:07:07
Speaker
you know, seeing them at the end of the clip, I feel like he should have figured out that they don't want to play. Like, I know the DM was apologetic, but there's absolutely no chance the DM cared, right? Like, in my eyes, either A, they straight up, it was just really poorly DM'd and he forgot about that character, right? Or B, that person. Yeah, they just don't want him there, which is a poor way to go about it, but I think, I just think they don't want him there. I think it's just- Has he left any comment?
01:07:37
Speaker
um let's have a look so he replied to someone yeah he replied so he applied to a guy who said i'm glad the dm apologized but how dense can you be and what the fuck is wrong with your friends um and then like a bunch of things about how your friends are idiots and i couldn't imagine my friends doing that um and then the guy replied and said i did make a few comments about being ignored but i didn't want to be too
01:08:10
Speaker
supposedly they all seem to like being around him for the entire campaign and we're excited to see his new character and that's like the only stuff he's applied to other people are just saying sounds weird like if you got bullied or part of the story is missing
01:08:28
Speaker
Um, some people think it does seem like there's a bit of the story missing. It does feel like one-sided. I mean, all of these Reddit stories are one-sided because they always write them in a way. Yeah. The very rare occasion that you get one where it's written in a way that they made themselves look like an asshole. Yeah. It doesn't happen at all. Sometimes you get them and wow, they are. Yeah. This feels like so one-sided that it does feel there's a lot missing. Hmm.
01:08:56
Speaker
but yeah, a lot of the comments are saying stuff is missing or, you know, there are souls or they just wanted to get rid of you. That's basically all the comments. Yeah, it's- Yeah, it does seem like the DM needs to suck it up and kick him. Yeah, I agree. It's never fun. I had to do it before. It's not fun. It's not a fun conversation to have. But at the end of the day,
01:09:23
Speaker
If your party's not enjoying playing with that person, you've got to put the priority on the group. Oh yeah, absolutely. It was definitely a poor way to go about it, but I think we're missing a lot of information for this
Introducing New Characters
01:09:37
Speaker
one. A healthy portion of the story. Yeah, because something absolutely had to have happened. Or they simply just are just like very dense and just don't know what's happened. Or the dickhead. Yeah, or the dickhead.
01:09:53
Speaker
Something's missing, but if it's true and they just straight up just did that, that is poorly ending. Yeah. There's a lot you can do to it. It is difficult sometimes to get the group to do something that you want them to. But I feel like at a very elite, you can go, OK, we're stopping the game like you guys are being dickheads. Like if you guys are that someone I brought in. Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:20
Speaker
Yeah. But at the same time, I don't think we have those problems because of the way that I've decided to add people to the group. And the fact that if we add someone, I talk to them and drop all the messages in the chat. Yeah. And then everyone decides I'm like, yeah, I kind of like that person's vibe and they seem nice or they've got a cool pattern idea. We add them. But the way I look at it is you guys have got to play with them. Yeah.
01:10:47
Speaker
No, I can't be down to me to add a person at random into the into the dynamic.
Closing Remarks and Future Plans
01:10:56
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You've got to be able to get along with them. Yeah, pretty much. I think it's a lot of compromise. It is a lot. Yeah, absolutely. Obviously, there are some things people want compromised, but like most of the time, it's little things I think that people just blow up. So it depends on you look at things. Yeah, absolutely.
01:11:18
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