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Elite Dressage Brain
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Have you ever wanted to know exactly how they get the horses to dance in dressage? If not, maybe this episode isn't for you. Join us for our most offseason episode yet, as we discuss the 2024 Summer Olympics and our resident horse girl explains how equestrian sports work.
Then, we answer listener questions in a mailbag segment. Only some of them are about horses.
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00:00:05
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i mean I ran, but I don't even know what he was thinking. He was just a complete burden. Brady Kachunk. Thomas is my best friend. I got a lot of good-looking noobs on my team. You just gotten new them got I got them. I got them, we'll see.
Episode Introduction
00:00:23
Speaker
Hi everyone and welcome to episode Philip Gustafson of Elite Sendsbrain. It's been a little while since we last had an episode because the Sends have not been doing anything. As always, I'm Viata and I am joined this time only by my co-host, but that's great because she's awesome
Guest Policy Discussion
00:00:43
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anyway. He's Twitter user at Ericsson's Burner.
00:00:47
Speaker
hi Yeah, it's sadly just me. um If you want to be a guest on the podcast, we will reach out to you. Don't reach out to us. We get a lot of these requests. Everyone is in our DMs begging to be on the podcast. They're all SENS players too and we have to be like, guys, please.
00:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, so many famous people just, they really want to, you know, it's such a status symbol, having been on this podcast, and they're all kind of desperate for
Ian Mendes Storytime
00:01:20
Speaker
it. That might actually be a good segue into discussing a person who did once actually slide into my DMs asking to be on my podcast, not this one, my old podcast, Ian Mendes.
00:01:34
Speaker
The one that extends news we have. Big Ian Mendez and Sylvain Saint Laurent news. um well Did you love my... I know, I'm so impressed. Thank you so much, guys. I did core French in high school. ah like tell Thank you so much. But yeah, so they were both hired by the Ottawa Senators, which congratulations, huge congrats. But also, ah you made a good point before we started recording,
00:02:02
Speaker
Always covering The Sims from the media now. There's no one. It's pretty bleak. ah Sorry if you're listening to this and you cover The Sims. There are some good writers. I'm just saying, you know, Ian Mendes and Sรฉdรฉvais Saint Laurent, those are the best. And they're also like,
00:02:19
Speaker
I feel like they they are connected in my mind because those are both people who, on top of being amazing writers and you know great journalists about The Sens, are also just people who are so unbelievably nice to everyone in the community and so eager to give people opportunities. like Again, Ian Mendez, I'm not joking, did want Slide Into My DMs to request to come on my podcast.
00:02:49
Speaker
It was the better podcast you ran, to be fair, so that's why it never happened. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't push yourself down like this. I think they're both wonderful. We do have more episodes. That's true. And we've had more guests. It's true. And you know what? If you add the fame of all our guests together, they are more famous than ah Ian Rendez. No offense. Now he'll never come on. Now he'll never come on. Oh, God. Yeah.
00:03:18
Speaker
I can't believe he hasn't asked to be on this podcast. It's a pretty disappointing thing. But anyways, it's pretty cool that two of my Twitter mutuals now work for the Sends. Ump is a sense whompfi on Sends payroll. Neither of them follow me, but that's okay. That's okay. I'm sure they will eventually.
00:03:41
Speaker
now yeah now Now that they are covering Sun's PR, they're like, we need to be aware. What is she saying? Yeah, I remember Sun Vang once interviewed me for a piece on Daniel Alfordson going into the coffee hall with Bae, and then when he called me, he was like, oh, it's so strange, you know, like we've followed each other for so long, we've known each other for so long, but like, I don't think we've ever had a conversation. And I was like, oh my god, what?
00:04:07
Speaker
You actually think of me like you think it's weird that we haven't had a conversation you're literally famous. That's so nice. It's awesome. Yeah. And Ian, and so everyone has a million stories. Everybody knows just just the nicest person ever.
00:04:26
Speaker
So, yeah two great people. I am looking forward, I expect both of them to give me insider information and also take my, ah well, bring all of my opinions about The Sends to the organization. If either of them are listening, please know I will be DMing new messages to pass on to Steve Staios. That's the thing, like you have a direct line now. It's perfect.
00:04:55
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So very excited about this. In a way, I'm running the Ottawa Center. Not even in a way. It's like in every way you are running the Ottawa Centers. Yeah, so that's awesome. Anyways, that concludes our SENS news. Great episode, everyone. Follow Elite SENS Brain. You know, see you next time in a month when the SENS do something. Yep. Bye, guys. Go SENS go.
00:05:35
Speaker
ah So actually, no, we're, that was our SENS news. So if you're only here for SENS stuff, I mean, there might be some SENS discussion later, but um we're not really going to do an episode about the SENS. We're going to do an episode about the Olympics and then a mailbag because we didn't know what else to do. Yeah. Okay. Like in our defense, there is nothing else to do.
00:05:56
Speaker
Exactly. It was this or no episode, so everyone would be grateful. And also it's like you could, in your mind, you could just be being like, well, why would you do an episode then?
Podcast Philosophy
00:06:05
Speaker
It's because we like to chat. Like, this isn't for you. We love to yap. We love to talk to each other. And nobody's forcing you to listen to this. So oh anyways, have you been enjoying the Olympics?
00:06:20
Speaker
um yes but i haven't been able to watch like much because guys sadly i am a little bit employed so i haven't had too much opportunity to watch a lot i have been loving the drama surrounding um parts of it though it's been fun i i mean i know we've both talked about this we are both new fans of Canada soccer, ah specifically the women's team.
Olympic Drama
00:06:51
Speaker
I, you know, I really loved the gold medal game at the last Olympics. I follow a ton of women's soccer fans because I follow lots of women's hockey fans. So I'm kind of aware of what's going on. And I got to say this je drone scandal was so funny that the moment this story dropped, I was like, I am hooked. I am Canada women's soccer's number one fan right now.
00:07:15
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and I've been watching their games just because of that. Literally, like i there was there's nothing they could have done that would have made me like them more. like If it came out that they were staunch anti-cheaters, I would have been like cringed. like I don't like them anymore. um To bring it back to the sense for one moment, in the immortal words of Brady Kachuk, probably someone else said it, but if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. so Yeah.
00:07:41
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Like, they just want it so bad. They just wanted it so bad. What's also funny, I think we both talked about this on Twitter, as did, like, everyone. It's hilarious how bad they are at cheating, because the thing is, that I truly believe that everyone's cheating. Like, I know that, like, they said that, and I don't know if people believe it, but it's obviously true. Like, there's no way one team would be doing something that no other team is doing like if someone's doping everyone's doping type thing like if someone's cheating with drones everyone's cheating with drones it's hilarious that they're the only ones who got caught like why why are they so bad at it
00:08:17
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It's such a funny way to cheat. Like I understand, I have since learned that in soccer you do use drones to film your practices, your own practices and stuff, right? So like, yeah, it makes sense. It's a big field, you you want the overhead view, you want, you know, it's not easy to film that. Sure.
00:08:36
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But there's just something so funny about like, oh, there was a cheating scandal at the Olympics and you immediately assume oh someone was doping. No, no, no. Someone was spying on their opponents via drone. Like, that's so funny. It's so funny because also I'm like, okay, I think I don't know enough about soccer because like,
00:08:58
Speaker
It's like, well, what are you, like, yeah, they're playing soccer. Like how, like, how is that helping that much? I guess like you could get like their lines or something, but it's like probably you already kind of know ah options, right? I think soccer, they have a lot fewer players too. Like they're not switching out like in hockey. Yeah, I know. So it's like you get substitutions. I guess, you know, whatever strategies they have, right.
00:09:24
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yeah set plays and stuff. Can you tell we know nothing? Okay, yeah ah okay sorry, yeah. ah we I like literally know nothing. But I was like, wait a second, like isn't that just watching tape? like it's like Unless they just invented a new set play now. it's like Maybe that's what it is. maybe Someone advised. like I guess we should have I should have looked this up more before we talked about it in the podcast. But we're mostly talking about why it's hilarious. like we don't really i mean I can't speak for you. I really don't care about the nitty-gritty of exactly the intricacies. It's just so funny because then like emails were leaked, um, where they were like, uh, like someone was like, oh, I don't feel comfortable cheating because I want to cheat and like damage my reputation and also like it feels morally wrong. And then for like, the who was it? Who is, who is Bev?
00:10:13
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was that person. We love her Bevin. Apparently she just like emailed someone that she has been cheating and also that other people are cheating. Like they're so bad at this. Yeah, like cause she was literally like, um, like to HR right or something like that was like,
00:10:31
Speaker
hey like one of my employees doesn't want to cheat um please advise on like how to make them cheat it's like what is happening if this is wrong also like if we're getting the facts wrong don't tell me because this is the funniest iteration of what i believe so it's like if it's less funny than this just don't correct us Yeah, yeah, it's just so good. And I love that it was the women who got caught, even though the men were doing it too. There's just, it's very girl-boss. And the email also, she was like, the men's side is also cheating. um And it's like, oh my gosh, now they're in it. And she also said like, oh, the top 10 teams, I'll do it. Which like again, I fully believe, but it's so funny that like, no one else got caught. Like, of course this happened. um It feels like,
00:11:20
Speaker
The sends are there. like it's You know what I mean? like This feels like a very Ottawa Senators thing to happen, which is nice because this is a sends podcast. ah So that's cool. It feels like something that would happen to the sends. It has the energy. It has Uber video energy, like, kind of. So that's really fun.
00:11:41
Speaker
uh yeah it's cool they got a six point deduction and then it didn't even matter because they won anyway so it's like how is this a like i get how it's i actually don't get how it's punishment because it's like you still can win it's just like we're gonna make it slightly harder on you well they basically have to go undefeated for the whole tournament right because they had to they had to win three games to get to nine points and then now they're in the elimination rounds because they're in the quarterfinals So, and I'm assuming, I mean, probably if they had gone undefeated in the round, Robin, they might've gotten a bye to the semis. I don't know. Or maybe they would have just played a worse team in the quarterfinals. and Probably that, probably that. Yeah, disregard what I just said. They probably would have just played a worse team. So it matters with seeding, I guess. And well, yeah, if they had lost any of those games, I don't think they would have advanced. Yeah. I know exactly what they needed.
00:12:33
Speaker
oh needed to win but it feels like it's just like why does this just feel like the most like galvanizing thing ever then because it's like like there's such I feel like if I if I was an Olympic athlete I feel like this would be like such good like inspo for me it's like like also I think the players also said like they didn't know about it which I believe because it's like players don't like, beating very much. Unless they're doping, I guess, but I think everyone does that. but Everyone does it. But like, if someone's doing it, everyone's doing it type thing again. But like, yeah, I don't think the players actually knew about it. So it just feels like great material, like great, like, inspiration material, like they like everyone's against us all this stuff. um But it's just funny that like, okay, we're not disqualifying you. And you can still win this whole thing. Like you can still win gold. We're just gonna make it like hard.
00:13:25
Speaker
I guess the idea is that they wanted to take away the competitive advantage they got by cheating. but like I don't know if it's a one-to-one thing like I don't know if it can work that way but whatever. if it I also love that there's been discourse about whether they can claim this as like adversity and an underdog storyline and people being like you cheated that's not adversity but it's like for these players like they didn't cheat it was just you know the people in charge screwed them over in two ways right they're they're like coaches screwed them over and also
00:14:00
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the IOC kind of did, right? So I think they're allowed to claim it as an underdog narrative. Yeah, it's also just like so funny, like because like team like fans of opposing teams are the ones especially obviously who are like, it's not an underdog story. It's not, it's not. It's like,
00:14:21
Speaker
It is now. I don't know why. It's just very funny. It's it's just like, I love it. I'm happy that you did. And it's gonna be so, it'll be so funny if they win. It's the thing if we're like, we cheated and we still won. Yeah, exactly. That's why I was so surprised. I actually like made that an option. Like, instead of just kicking them out fully. Like, obviously, I'm glad that didn't happen. But it's funny that they made it an option where like,
00:14:48
Speaker
yeah you can still fully win this thing even though we have been no uncertain terms that you cheated also apparently part of it was like going back to when they were caught i think new zealand only caught only saw like one of their drones or something but they were like we are so sorry for both of our drones and they were like both what
00:15:09
Speaker
like Oh, even when the scandal first broke, a bunch of people were joking about how Canada was using drones all the time. We just only got caught once. And literally, that's why. So literally, because people were like, if you're gonna use drones, why would you use them on New Zealand? And they were like, well, they're like, they're probably just using them on everyone. And they totally were. It's so funny. But also, I would just be so cautious and like,
00:15:36
Speaker
Like if you're definitely going to beat someone, but then I guess the question is like, then if you lose, you're like, we should have just cheated. Um, but yeah, it's so funny. I love that. It's so funny. Yeah, shout out to the Canadian women's soccer team. Yeah. And a notice to all other Canadian Olympians and athletes in general, please cheat more. It makes for very interesting and hilarious narratives.
00:16:08
Speaker
So true. and So now, we're gonna move on to our mailbag segment. But I believe that you had a question for me. Yeah, just the first question comes from Twitter user at Ericsson's burner. Um, I would like you to tell me what dressage is. Specifically, I think I said this on Twitter, I want to know how do they make that horse dance? Like, I don't understand how a horse could ever learn to do that.
Dressage Deep Dive
00:16:44
Speaker
That's a really good question. I am not sure I can explain dressage, despite the fact that I have not only done dressage, but also trained horses to do dressage.
00:16:55
Speaker
But the best explanation I can give, and we were joking that this would be the entire podcast, so everyone gather rounds. We're going to learn about dressage today. So the explanation the best explanation I can give of dressage is that so it is a very, very advanced version of the basic flat work that every rider needs to learn in order, because it it's all about um communicating really well with the horse and the horse moving really nicely and looking very nice doing very tricky things that the rider asks it to do right so when you first learn how to ride you learn the commands for walk trot eventually canter halt
00:17:41
Speaker
You learn to steer your horse, you learn to stop at specific points in the arena right so that you're, you're stopping at the right moment you're turning at the right moment, you learn how to get your horse to make to take slower steps or faster steps stuff like that, right.
00:17:57
Speaker
dressage takes that to the extreme and as you do very complicated things and basically the rider asks for all of these dance moves basically using three things they're called in writing we call them your aids um so your first aid is your hands which are holding the reins right the reins are the things connected to the horse's mouth And you'll notice in dressage, the horse's neck is bent a lot. The reins are really, really tight. That's not because the rider is like yanking on the reins. If they did that, the horse would just pull back. It would be a tug of war and the horse would win. What they do is the horse is trained to arch its neck and to kind of, um, push its weight down into the bit, which is the thing in the mouth.
00:18:51
Speaker
so that the rider is kind of like holding the horse's head up and that way the horse can feel every like tiny movement of the rider's hands, right? So yeah, so that's one of the aids. And like, if you watch, the riders have to keep their hands completely still because anytime their hands move even the slightest bit, even when you can't see it and their hands just move slightly, the horse feels that and the horse is responding to that, right?
00:19:21
Speaker
the um And then, so that's one of the aids. The other one is obviously the legs. So, you know, you can ah squeeze with both legs with just one or the other. You can move your leg back a little bit. Usually, um squeezing your legs means moving the horse, asking the horse to go forward. And if it's just one leg, often you're asking the horse to bend around that leg, or you're pushing your horse the horse away from your leg.
00:19:49
Speaker
kind of either one, right? Okay. And then the third thing, the third aid is your seat. So that's just how much weight you're putting in the saddle, how your weight is kind of shifting. So you want most of the time to not be shifting your weight too much to be sitting really deep in the saddle. um And that was harder to explain how you just control the horse with that, but like you do.
00:20:12
Speaker
Okay. Okay. but So it's those three things. And again, just like with the hands, of the legs also have to be very, very still. And as anyone who has tried riding a horse nose, like that's difficult to do your, your leg is going to be bouncing around a lot when you first learn how to ride and you have to learn to like, sort of hug the horses sides with your legs. Right? Yeah.
00:20:34
Speaker
Yeah, so in dressage, using all of those aids, the point is for the horse to be listening to the rider, to be doing everything at the right moment. You'll see there are like letters in the dressage arena. There's like A, K, E, M, wait, e H, C, M, B, F. I'm sorry, any riders are like yelling. It's been a while. It's been a while. I'm sorry. um And then in the in the fancy Olympic ones, they have extra letters. I don't give a shit about that. I never use those. But yeah, there are letters in the arena and those will indicate like when each element of the dressage chest is going to start. And generally the horse needs to have its back kind of arched so that the hind legs are really underneath the horse and it's like propelling it forward, you know, it needs to be moving with a lot of intention, picking up its feet well,
00:21:27
Speaker
um But the the legs need to be well in sync. You need to be very well balanced because horses naturally, when they're just running around, they're not very balanced. They're not walking in a straight line. So the rider needs to like you know train the horse to do that, but also make the horse do that using legs and reins and stuff, right?
00:21:51
Speaker
So it's a lot of that ah and each specific dressage move has different commands. So like, for example.
00:22:03
Speaker
amid a sort of like easier dressage move. um I have I have taught horses how to do this. I'm not surprised. But there was there was sort of an advanced and like, it's called a half pass in the well, there was a ah half pass in the Olympic dressage test. But an easier version of that is what's called a leg yield, which is where the horse moves diagonally by crossing one leg over the other.
00:22:29
Speaker
or like two lights or whatever. And the way that you ask for that, right, is you go down, for example, the center of the arena, and then you very gently lift up your inside hand. So, for example, if you want to go to the left, you'll lift up your right hand, the right rein, just very gently tugging on it um so that the horse bends a little bit to the left.
00:22:55
Speaker
and then you sort of nudge the horse with your right leg so that the horse gets the message we're looking this way but we're moving the other way and you kind of have to keep your your left hand and your left leg steady but just as sort of like a a wall kind of for the horse so that it's not bending too much because you want the horse to still look mostly like straight and you just kind of keep asking for that and eventually the horse understands like oh we're we're looking this way we're moving this this way okay i'm gonna cross my legs over and then after a while they start doing that without you asking and it's really cute um in my experience when you teach them how to do that yeah wait okay
00:23:37
Speaker
Dude, are horses the smartest animals in the world? Because I'm like, okay, I can see like how this skill is like required and stuff. But it's like, the horse knows what you're asking for. Yeah. And like, it takes a while to learn. Like, you know, if you're teaching a leg yield, what you'll do is for like 20 minutes, you're just going to do leg yields. And then the horse understands and then you're doing other things. And you incorporate a leg yield and stuff, right? You know?
00:24:07
Speaker
So, okay, I love asking, you know, like, okay, wait, as if you didn't just drop the most insane knowledge on me ever. Hold on. Okay. You know, okay. You know when the horse, no one can see me except you. You know when the horse does like this thing? Like, okay, for the audience, like when it, when it like picks up its legs so high,
00:24:26
Speaker
Like it's fully dancing, like it's just dancing. Okay, but how does it know that you ever wanted to do that? Like do horses want to ever do that?
00:24:39
Speaker
I mean, they can do that. So what that is, it's called a passage, and it's a very advanced version of a collected trot. um and it collected So yeah, I should have explained this too. um When I said, you know, making the horse go faster or slower, the trot is like a gate that the horse has, right? It's two two legs moving at at the same time.
00:25:01
Speaker
And if you are trotting and you want the horse to take smaller steps, what you have to do is you sit very deep in the saddle and um you just sort of gently tug on the reins, like kind of tug and and and then release, but you keep your legs sort of on the horse so that the horse knows we're not walking, we're still trotting, we're still moving, but obviously, based on the commands from the reins and the way you're sitting, you want me to take smaller steps, right? And so the horse will start to pick up its feet more. And you can also do a collective canter. Well, you know, you can collect a little bit of the canter, for example, which is something that's really important in jumping because you need to manage how many steps the horse is taking leading up to a jump.
00:25:45
Speaker
So you can also do an extended trot, so you might see sometimes the horse extends its legs out at the trots, and that's sort of the opposite of that. You you let up on the reins a little bit and you push the horse forward with your legs and your seat, um but the command for cancer is different, so usually they understand that they're not cantering, they're just extending in the trot and yeah you just you just work on collecting and extending and it's actually like dressage is really really good for horses it builds up so much muscle it like dressage horses are the healthiest like horses that you will see um and it's really really good for horses to do this kind of stuff because they're like literally stretching you know it's it's exercises they're building up muscle so and yeah most horses have to learn to like collect and extend but obviously dressage horses can do like a very
00:26:31
Speaker
very extreme version of that with the the passage. Okay, this is crazy. I can't believe this is how like this is possible. Also, common misconception about dressage, sorry. um Those dressage tests are not rehearsed because if you try to rehearse a dressage test and do the exact test with your horse, eventually the horse is going to anticipate things and start doing things sooner than it should and try to like guess what's going to happen next.
00:27:03
Speaker
and so you know, paradoxically, they're going to do the wrong thing because of that. We're going to cut corners or something like that. So actually, you want the horse to go in mostly blind, obviously knowing all of the elements. um And then the rider asks for all those things in the moment. Oh, like the horse can't like memorize it like it's a dance routine. Yeah, like the horse just has to be listening very, very carefully to what the rider is asking for. And obviously, you need to practice all the elements individually so that the horse knows what the what the cues are for those things. Yeah. Or like, okay I can explain another another common one. Because this one we did see in in the Olympic dressage test. I was saying this as if people were sitting around watching dressage like I was. I was. Yeah. Well, okay. You might remember this if I explain what it is. So um the canter
00:27:55
Speaker
is a gate that looks almost like a rocking horse, right? um Where the horse, and basically if you look at the legs, the horse has their outside hind leg forward first and then the other three, right? So it's one and then the other three, one and three. And when you watch the horse cantering, you can see that the inside front leg is further ahead of the others, right?
00:28:22
Speaker
Um, and if you, if you ever try to like run like a horse, like you're galloping, usually you're like, you can try this. You're usually going to have one foot ahead of the other and it's going to be whatever, whichever way you're turning, you want that to be your inside foot, right? A horse does that too. It needs to be well balanced. Um, and it can go on either lead is what it's called, right? So.
00:28:47
Speaker
If you're asking for the canter, if you're turning left, well, if you're going like in the left, going around the arena in the way that you're turning left at each corner, right? What you need to do is you sit up, you um turn your horse's nose slightly to the inside. So to the left, for example, you Push, well, you kind of, um you know, put your inside leg on and then you move your outside leg, which is your right leg, a little bit backwards. And then you, you push with both legs and you push the horse up into the canter and it'll get the left lead canter. But then say you go diagonally across the arena and you need to change directions. Your horse is going to be off balance if it's going right on the left lead canter. So you need your horse to go onto the other lead.
00:29:37
Speaker
And there are two ways to do this. I'm just explaining. Of course, this is listen valid for all equestrian sports, but mostly dressage. And I'll get to the connection to the dressage test soon. So there are two ways to change the lead. The easiest way, which is bad, is you go back to the trot and then you ask for the cancer again and you pick up the correct lead on cancer.
00:30:02
Speaker
But the correct way and the way they would do it at the Olympics is you do what's called a flying lead change where the horse is cantering on one lead and then jumps up into the air and lands on the other lead. And you do that by just asking for the other lead on the canter. So you switch the position of your legs and you move your other hand up, right?
00:30:24
Speaker
And what they did in the what they do at like high-level dressage is they'll do like two steps on one light lead and then two steps on the other lead, and they just like keep switching up. And they even, at some point, I think it's called a zigzag, where they just switch with every single step. It's so cool. I watch that. I'm like, I don't even know how you do that. like I can do a flying lead change, but not every single step. That's insane.
00:30:53
Speaker
So now you can all understand dressage. That is crazy. I have two thoughts. One, it's nuts you can do this like at any level. like i'm like I feel like if I saw this, I'd be like, oh, like you do it. I'd be like, what the fuck? Dude, what the fuck? This sounds crazy. Number two, I know you said it's good for the horse's muscles. I also feel like it sounds like it's like a horse like crossword or something, where it's like it improves their brain so much.
00:31:24
Speaker
It's like this increases horse Alzheimer's or something.
00:31:30
Speaker
yeah um Yeah. And also, did you know if you are jumping and you're you're at the counter and you're jumping, um you're supposed to change your lead over the jump if you need to change it. And what you do how you do that is like immediately before the jump. As you're like gearing up to jump, you ask for the other lead so that the horse jumps and goes, okay, we're landing on this lead.
00:31:56
Speaker
It's crazy. Oh my gosh. Oh wait, I had one question. Um, is it always your horse? Like, do you go to the Olympics with your horse or do they give you like an Olympic designated? Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I think when they used to have...
00:32:13
Speaker
Yeah. Well, some shows will do that. Um, usually, ah yeah, it's like a special thing, like a specific kind of show often where they'll be like, Oh, you get a random horse and you just got to learn to ride it. Uh, I think they did that at one of the, like, like the decathlon or one of the ones with a whole bunch of different sports. And it was really controversial last Olympics because one of the riders was shit and was like overusing her crop a lot. Um, and so I think they took it out of that competition.
00:32:41
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But, or maybe the pentathlon, something like that, like one of those sports where you just do a whole bunch of different sports. But no, at this level, it is the rider and the horse. Um, yeah, and you, you ride your own horse or, you know, maybe you riding someone else's horse, but you have an agreement with that. Riders will, like at this level, especially, they will have one horse that they just work with because you have to work together as a team. You have to learn to work together. And, you know, some riders have just horses that aren't
00:33:12
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good enough for their skill level and spend a lot of time at lower levels because of that. And then they finally get a really, really good horse that can you know match their skill level. So often it's just a ah matter of like the rider's ability and the horse's ability matching up at exactly the right moment to be able to go to the Olympics. you know who That's awesome. Wow.
00:33:36
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that I think there is like a really, um, there's a story, I i keep seeing it on TikTok. I think there's one rider in I think eventing where, um, the, the horse, the horse that he's riding belonged to someone else who died. And he took over the horse and is riding there. Yeah. So sometimes there are there are stories like that.
00:33:59
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Oh my gosh. That's nice because I like this one because when else do you get to compete with your best friend and your pet? Because I feel like sometimes it's one or the other, but it's nice it's both. When is it ever pet? It's never pet. Maybe like a dog show. But that's really nice. I like this a lot. That's nice. Do you want to comment on why horses don't need medals?
00:34:25
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Yeah, so there has been a lot of discourse with people saying that it's mean to not give horses medals, some of it joking, some of it actually serious. I just want to say, what you think a horse is going to do with a medal? Like, first of all, they get massive ribbons. They get, I mean, at least in other Olympics, when I've actually watched the like podium ceremony, they've given the horses massive ribbons.
00:34:50
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but also like the horse just gets lots of pats and some treats and everyone's really happy and so the horse is happy like the horses the horses just live off of praise they love it they don't need a medal what would that mean to them it's true i feel like people personify the horses too much because it's like a lot of times i know you said you're on horse talk i am not but i am sometimes on like hoof talk, like where people were like, do the hooves for the horses. And people are like, this is hurting them. And it's like, it can't probably not. Right? It doesn't aye doesn't. Like, if it does bother them, like there are some parts of the hoof that are sensitive. Um, but like, it is really necessary to do that, like for their health. you know Yeah. Yeah. I think people
00:35:39
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To be fair, I don't know that much about horses, but at least I admit I don't know that much about horses. I think a lot of people personify the horses too much and are like, oh, the horse hates this. And it's like, you don't know what the horse likes. And the thing is, like, yes, the horse has likes and desires and emotions. ah There are certainly things that hurt horses, right? Like, I'm not saying the horses have no emotions at all. But the yeah, the issue is you can't just put human emotions on animals.
00:36:08
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animals. Horses have different desires. And also they are very, very large animals. They are different things that are going to hurt them. Right? Like, that sounds bad. That sounds bad. But like truly, you know,
00:36:21
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and the the amount of force that you can use with a horse is very different from what you can use with other animals right um without hurting them is what i mean and also like yeah like horses don't need medals they they have other other things other ways of getting rewarded you know yeah i feel like if you didn't if you gave a horse a medal but like took away like it's like probably gets like extra hay or something for winning. It's like they probably want not. Also, like usually the horse belongs to the rider. You know where that medal is going to get displayed? In the tack room. Maybe even in front of the horse's stall. The medal is going to be right there. I don't know if the horse's name, do they head to the engraved names on the medals? Because I feel like they should definitely engrave the horse's name on the medal.
00:37:14
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Well, I actually don't know if they engrave the name. Yeah. I think they just engrave the sport. I don't know if they engrave anyone's name. Yeah, because they wouldn't have time to engrave them, right? so Yeah, because they give them- I don't know. Well, okay. Then they're gonna go in some trophy case with a plaque that says their name, the horse's name. Like, guys, what are you doing? What are we talking about here? It's fine. The horses love to dance. Everyone calm down.
00:37:44
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Yeah, exactly. And yeah, don't don't freak out when you just see the horse moving in a way that you think is unnatural. It's literally fine. And yes, ah okay, the reason that Dressage is so controversial this year is because there was a video that was leaked of one of the eventing writers, I think, or maybe just Dressage, I can't remember. um Yeah, there was a trainer like straight up beating the horse. i Guys, they do not do that in training. That is that is very unusual. that is That was, you know,
00:38:16
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um
00:38:19
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I'm searching for the word. ah That is not accepted by the the horse community. Usually trainers stand in the middle of the arena and they yell at you. They're not whipping the horse. Nobody does that. It is the rider who asks the horse to do all of the dressage moves. So we can all relax a little bit.
00:38:39
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like but yeah percentage i think I feel like it makes sense that that is such a rare occurrence that that doesn't happen because it's like you don't know if anyone has ever met like a horse girl but like I feel like it's very much like you do not hurt the horse like they love the horses like I feel like no one loves the horses more yeah and also like it doesn't make sense as a strategy for dressage horses or any horse. I'm sorry, you're not going to scare or like punish a horse into being an elite athlete at that level. It just does not work. It's the same with human athletes. It doesn't work to do it. like hands like ok I will say, you know like with any sport,
00:39:29
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Equestrian sports has a few people who are way too competitive and do unethical stuff to try to get ahead. Like, you know, it does happen at the highest levels that people take things too far. And yes, it is a little different when that involves animals versus humans. And I get why people get a little extra upset about that.
00:39:54
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And, you know, sometimes, yeah, sometimes the training regimes are a little bit intense. The sports at the various level, it gets very physically demanding, but generally, um, it's cool. It's fine. The horses are fine. And when y'all say that equestrian sports are just inherently like torture, you sound like PETA. So just need y'all to know that.
00:40:22
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Exactly. All this to say, dressage and also other equestrian sports that I don't know the name of are the best ones. And yeah they're the only time you get to watch.
00:40:36
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cute animal in the Olympics. so Yeah, actually, I will c say it my favorite part of watching the dressage competition, I feel like this really sums up the sport of dressage. It was, ah there was this one horse came in, beautiful horse, like all of these horses are like these massive creatures, like so muscular, their coats have been like, that you know, they've been washed, their coats are shiny, they are in peak physical form and this horse starts the dressage test and then at one point stops and poops and the commentators are like oh no oh no you hate to see this happen like how unfortunate and then one of the commentators goes and now now let's see if the horse
00:41:24
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spooks at the sight of his own poop in the arena when he circles back around to walk past the poop. Because sometimes that happens. They're surprised and they get scared. And that to me sums up Trisaj. That's like, where else are you getting that? Did the horse get spooked? No, he didn't. He was a very good boy. But yeah, like, you know,
00:41:48
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incredibly incredibly athletic horses, like just, you know, incredible display of like teamwork between a horse and rider of just like strength in both the horse and the rider. It's, you know, a beautiful horse at peak physical form, but also sometimes it just decides to stop and poop. And also it's a friend of its own. Oh, funny. It's the best sport I've ever heard of.
00:42:15
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greatest sport of all time. Thank you for that thorough explanation. clearly Thank you for letting me talk. No, thank you. Okay, I hope everyone now understands dressage. i on the test we will do a pause I feel like I know like half understand it, but I understand it enough to if I'm ever watching dressage with someone who doesn't understand it at all, I can like tell them about it.
00:42:41
Speaker
and be like that's a flying lead change that's that's passage do you know how they get them to do passage yeah i just i'm like do you know how they do this and then i forget i'm like oh shit oh shit and i pull up this episode perfect exactly and i explained exactly two things that are in the dressage chest and one thing that's like a less advanced version what's in it That's more than anyone knows. Like that is that I know. oh So it's fine. I was saying on twitter a way to judge dressage is to judge um how close the writer is to the letters when they do each thing. Because a lot of these writers when they were going down the diagonal, when they ended the diagonal, they're you're like you're the writer's body is supposed to be aligned with the letter in the arena. A lot of the times it was the horse's head, not the writer's body. So they messed it up.
00:43:34
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or if they're not, if they and it's slightly off from C, terrible. Embarrassing. Go home at that point. Emiliating.
00:43:47
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ah So anyways, the rest of the mailbag. Yeah, well we'll answer some other questions now. As a reminder, that was my question. um Let's see if we can answer every other question for like 30 minutes.
00:44:00
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Oh, yeah. This is a six hour episode. Okay, so yeah, we got some questions in. Thank you everyone who asked us a question. Very last minute or two.
Listener Questions & Humor
00:44:10
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Yeah, and we got some good ones. For example, let's start out with a question from maul at maulfully on Twitter.
00:44:17
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um Can you get Josh Norris to marry me? And then it says, I don't know if I want to say that because I don't want to get in trouble. Is that bad to say? Let's just say she was prevented from saying this. Yeah, she couldn't say this. Okay. Yeah.
00:44:31
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um Don't you think if I could, I would get him for me instead? ah Just kidding. If I had a direct link, I would a hundred percent, but I don't. But I do know someone on this podcast who is followed by two people who currently in Sends PR. So.
00:44:57
Speaker
I was going to make a different joke that I shouldn't say on this podcast about why I don't think Josh Norris is an option, but I will not say it because I think that is rude.
00:45:18
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I hope this answered your question. You want to say the next question? Uh, our dear friend Oily Gifts asks, if fuck, marry, kill, Nash, Spartakat and Gritty. And actually we don't need to answer that because our other friend Victoria already answered. She said, fuck Nash, marry Gritty and kill Spartakat. Which is, I think it's really rude that you want to kill Spartakat. Yeah. Victoria, what the hell?
00:45:51
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Okay, I wouldn't- I'm not gonna give my full answer, but I would definitely very Spartakat. Yeah, same. Are we kidding? He's so dependable. Like, I'm sorry, like, Nash, like, belongs to the streets, bro. Like, he will not be loyal to you. So you're gonna kill Nash then? Yeah. Okay, I think, actually, I'm gonna kill Gritty. He terrifies me. I love Gritty, but- Oh, wait.
00:46:19
Speaker
Yeah. I think if my options are to fuck Gritty or to kill him, I gotta kill him. Like, he needs to be put down. Actually, you're making points. I would marry Spartaket and kill the other two. Yeah. I would kill anyone who threatens mine and Spartaket's love. Oh. Yeah. So thank you, oily gifs, for that question.
00:46:47
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Yeah, abbreviated mascot minute a little bit. So yeah, I was gonna say American life is is with us today. Thank you so much. I feel them every day. I feel them in the air. I feel them in the breeze. Okay. ah The next question, multiple questions come from at record 15 on Twitter. um Number one, which sense players having a brat summer?
00:47:15
Speaker
I think that the true meaning of brat summer involves doing substances that would probably get you banned from the NHL. So I feel like this question involves, um, it's a little, it's a little deep. It's, uh, it has some implications here. Yeah. are you ask Like the league is going to launch an investigation if we answer. For legal reasons.
00:47:46
Speaker
We cannot. It feels like an accusation. i'm Like, which which sense of player do you think is doing drugs? None of them. They're all perfect boys. Yeah. That's so funny. That's also like how, like, um, like now the Democrats have to be like Kamala is having a brat summer and it's just implying things about her. Also, I'm pretty sure plenty of NHL players are doing these substances. I don't actually think they catch you pants from the NHL. Yeah, I think it's fine. Only gambling is he fine. Well, I mean, Brady Kuchuk is celebrating with his brother Stanley Cupwin. So maybe he's having a brat summer. But I don't know. Is it really brat if he's like just hanging along to his brother's Stanley Cup parade? I feel like having a brat summer also involves being a bit of a main character. Yeah.
00:48:45
Speaker
Like, who is so Julia? I think none of us. I think Tim Stutzler is so Julia. Oh, yeah, actually yeah, yeah, He's an eight girl. is Yeah, he is. Maybe he's having a brat somewhere. not Not in that sense, necessarily, but just in the vibes of being an eight girl, being a brat. Yeah, I think Tim Stutzler.
00:49:09
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Speaking of it girls, the next question again from Rekka15 is, which player is most likely to listen to Chappel Rhone, not including Josh?
00:49:22
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First of all, I don't actually think Josh Norris is cultured enough to listen to Chappel Rhone. I was going to say, I don't know if any of them are. I don't think so. I feel like, again, I need to choose my words very carefully.
00:49:37
Speaker
um Thomas Chabot. Oh my gosh. I think he is cool with the LGBTs and for that reason he has heard of Chapel Rhone and he got into Chapel Rhone. Yeah, you know what though actually like when the season starts up again. My roommate just texted me plain brat really loudly. Hope I don't interrupt anyone. Let's leave that in.
00:50:11
Speaker
and but If you hear Brat playing in the background of my audio, um mean it's my roommate. And it's an improvement on our normal episodes. We should just have them all playing Brat quietly in the background. We should. Anyways, yeah, I think i think that's my my vote. Yeah, that's a good one. I was going to say, I feel like when the season starts up again,
00:50:38
Speaker
why will hot to go be like they should have like a hot to go cam like this is not really answering the question it was saying this during the pwhl playoffs well yeah first of all i was just excited they were playing hot to go but i was saying to my friends they need to have a hot to go cam they need everybody doing the dance i feel like that won't be very successful NHL games but at PWHL games everyone will be doing that dance with me on the jumbotron of whatever I can do it I and just find me just kidding I'm so afraid of ever being on that for some reason oh sam especially when if it's like you're just sitting next to someone and then the kiss can come kiss cam comes on I was like and always terrified of that
00:51:20
Speaker
Um, but yeah, that didn't really answer the question. Oh no, we didn't answer the question. How much to buy. Okay. Uh, next question also from record 15 best TV slash movie watch this year. I need to admit to something.
00:51:37
Speaker
I actually don't watch much TV or movies. The only, well, cause I was talking about this with my roommate. I don't like knit or anything. Like I don't do anything that would require having a TV on. And I read a lot. So usually my downtime is spent reading. And then I read so much that I'm like, Oh, you know, I'm not going to go watch a TV show. but And I also watched a lot of hockey during hockey season. So.
00:52:05
Speaker
that just takes up a lot of my time. So the only time I really watch TV or movies is when I'm like cooking or doing chores around the house. And then I don't want to be watching something that requires a lot of my attention. So um unfortunately, the last TV show I watched all the way through was Bridgerton while I was packing up my old apartment. And that is not a good TV show.
00:52:31
Speaker
I would not call that my favorite TV show of the year. I also watched the new season of Doctor Who because one of my friends told me that it was, that there was an episode with Jonathan Groff and a lot of gay tension. And so I did watch it and it was all right. I never watched Doctor Who before. I think my favorite TV watch of the year, if it counts. So the Percy Jackson TV show. Oh, interesting.
00:52:58
Speaker
That was a long answer for I don't have an answer to this. yeah Okay, I also don't watch current TV shows. I only ever rewatch things or watch things from like five years ago. um And also recently, I've just been into watching like
00:53:17
Speaker
speedrunners on twitch dot.tv. I love to watch speedrunning Mario. Um, so that's not a TV show. Yeah, I watched a YouTube video essays. Yeah, I watched like, oh, yeah, YouTube video essays, the TV show of the year. Um, but my actual TV show of the year that actually didn't come out this year is Dairy Girls. Dairy Girls is my TV show of the year every single year. I feel such deep connection for some reason to the Irish. Um, I was telling people, um which I probably shouldn't have been telling, because it's a weird thing to say. I was like i was um Irish in another life because I feel so strongly that I was Irish Catholic. like i like Specifically, I was Irish Catholic. um and I don't know why I think that. um
00:54:07
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So the dairy Dairy Girls is my TV show of the year, end of my life. That's a good pick. I watched, I think, the first, maybe second seasons ages ago when I first came out. It's so good. And then I haven't been caught up. But the thing is, I i feel like I need to rewatch it to like refresh my memory. And I haven't just been able to get into a rewatch. I really need to watch it because I remember really a enjoying the show. Yeah. It's just so funny. And the accents are so lovely.
00:54:36
Speaker
Um, so yeah, dairy girls is my answer. Um, okay. Ooh, this is a topical one. You want, I'll give, I'll give you the honors of reading this one. Oh, of reading it? Okay. Well, I thought I'd be answering it. And answering it. I have no answer for this one. This is character words new clearly. Hell yeah, this is just a horse girl theme episode.
00:54:59
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Look, this is off season confidence. You didn't have to listen to this. So the question comes from Tyler Ray at Defense Minister. And in which sense player would win each equestrian event and how many of them would allow their horses to wear their Olympic medals? So right off the bat, I i want to say I don't think Brady Kachuk would be good at eventing.
00:55:28
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but I think he would kill it at specifically cross-country, which only exists as part of eventing. So if we pretended that cross-country is just like an event on its own, Brady Kaczuk. And the reason is because cross-country It's basically, it's in a massive field and um you have to like, it's a very long course and you jump a lot of obstacles that are like kind of weird. Like you'll jump over a ditch or like, you know, a pile of logs or something, or you have to jump kind of through a hedge. It's really cool and you have to be completely insane to do it.
00:56:07
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And you also need a lot of confidence, right? you Because horses are afraid of everything. So you need a very bold horse. And as a rider, you also have to be really confident and just like push your horse forward and be like, let's fucking go. Let's let's attack these these jumps. And you might also fall off and die.
00:56:32
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And I think that Brady Kachuk would be perfect because I think that nobody else has his level of confidence and disregard for his own safety. The one thing is cross country also involves like, you know,
00:56:47
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very carefully calculating how to approach the jump safely how to manage the horse's speed so that they're not expending all their energy right away like you know it's it's a lot of calculations like that i'm not sure how good Brady would be at that but like he's a captain he's used to like managing other people i i think he could kill it at cross country um the other so okay that's one event um dressage we've already explained I randomly think Artem Zube could do it. He's just very mysterious. He's very quiet. He seems very focused. I think he could just concentrate on learning dressage. It's a very like quiet, very technical, you know? So that's, that's, I just, I, it's a vibe. I don't know. ah For show jumping?
00:57:43
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I am going to say Thomas Chabot because show jumping also requires a little bit of insanity, but mostly the thing is, you know, so the goal of show jumping is you need to jump all of the obstacles within a very short amount of time, right? And you can't go over the time. You can't knock over any jumps, any like bars, right?
00:58:08
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and The way that you do that is you have to very carefully judge how tightly to take the turns, but also support your horse really well through the turns with your inside leg.
00:58:20
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And you have to judge, you know, how much to collect or extend in order to get the right amount of strides in between the jumps. Make sure you're like taking off at the right spot. It's, it's like surprisingly very, very technical in that way. I'm using that word a lot. I don't know. And I feel like Shabbat, you know, he, he's a defense man. He stands back. He watches the play. He's good at finding those passing lanes. And I just feel like that kind of skill could translate to show jumping. And I can't explain it any further. And also, well, I can't say like, Tim Stutzler, because he has no sense of balance. So how would he ever balance a horse, you know, like Thomas Chabot, he stays on his feet. And I think he could like, he could do show jumping because of that.
00:59:14
Speaker
I it's been agree. I agree with all of that. That was actually my exact thoughts. You thought, you said every single thing I thought. So you still want to answer. It's so cool how we're just like so connected. We're so in sync, especially about equestrian sports. Yeah. So let us know if you have, if you disagree with that. If you think other other sounds players would be good at different equestrian sports.
00:59:45
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whom Oh, and well, how many of them would allow their horses to wear the Olympic medals? Oh, yeah, I think all of them, because I think that, you know, hockey players, they're big on like, showing appreciation for their and like giving credit I'd feel like they'd be like no no no it was all the horse it was it was I didn't do anything oh all the horse the horse gets the medal you know yeah I feel like horses this is similar spoilers to a next question kind of but I feel like horses are the like goalie equivalent where it's like you should never blame your horse
01:00:19
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And it's like, if you do well, and this might be fake, I just it's in my head. um It seems like that's the approach they would take where it's like, you win by the horse or you lose by the horse, but like you can never blame. I will say, I've taken lessons with girls who blames the horse all the time, but they were hunter jumper girls. I have beef. No,
Equestrian Sports Judgment
01:00:42
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I'm not going to go into this. I have beef with hunter jumper girls. They are not real writers. If you are a hunter jumper fighter listening to this, fuck you. No, um, no, it was just there were some girls who um fell off all the time. And they were really high level hunter jumper riders.
01:01:00
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and they could not keep their seat if the horse refused and um also just didn't know how to manage difficult horses and would literally cry when they got assigned to a difficult horse in the lesson. So I, of course,
01:01:15
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would offer them. And then, when I wrote that horse perfectly, had no issues on a lesson, afterwards, they would go, oh my god, you're so lucky. You caught that horse on a good day. like I've never seen him behave that well in lessons before. like You're just so lucky. It's like every time you ride that horse, he just like does really well. Bitch, that's called riding. Anyways, they are the exception. Real riders never blame the horse.
01:01:45
Speaker
and Sorry, that was a tangent. I loved it when you were talking. I googled hunter jumper because I was like, I've never heard of this before. I agree again with everything you've said. If you're a hunter jumper, don't ever listen to this podcast ever again. You're not welcome here. Hunter jumper is like the most common thing that people do in competitions. I've competed in hunter jumper, but then I outgrew it because it's a good asian to then learn how to ride but if you dedicate your life to just looking really pretty on a horse and you don't learn how to manage difficult horses, I'm judging.
01:02:25
Speaker
I don't care that your hands are in the perfect position and your back is perfectly straight and your toes never point outward. You're not a good rider if you fall off when your horse refuses a jump or you cry because you have to ride a horse that's just a little bit too fast for you.
01:02:46
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I'm sorry. We've been talking too much about equestrian sports. No, I'm just like we're making enemies I didn't even know existed. amazing We're gonna get into so much trouble. I'd be happy to elaborate in the next episode. Oh my gosh, we're gonna get cancelled on hunter jumper Twitter. That's just equestrian Twitter. my god I'm sure there are hunter jumpers who are better riders than the girls I used to take lessons with. So I was judging them. But I still am I still think about
01:03:23
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them. I just felt like I was being disrespected when they said that I just, oh, I'm so lucky that horse always behaves really well on days when I ride the horse. Okay. It's like rude. Yeah. So I guess in some equestrian disciplines, they blame the horse, but not real ones.
01:03:46
Speaker
I agree. We need to move on before I get in trouble. Don't worry. Next question is related to this. It was a question that we got on Tumblr. By the way, I opened up the Tumblr inbox and I'm so sorry that I totally forgot to answer a whole bunch of asks that people have just been sending us. So first of all, this was from ages ago. It was from March 12th.
01:04:09
Speaker
I just need to read this out because it made me laugh. Somebody asked us. Somebody just said, I love reading behind the silver seven articles because they're written in the exact same style as she speaks on the pod. I can hear her voice perfectly. Thank you. That's so nice. You know, just a funny comment. Another person said that they got into chapel room because of us. Oh my gosh, we're heroes.
01:04:32
Speaker
Hagley doing so much good society. Anyways, no. The question that we have, Thomas from Tumblr is an anonymous user, and it's related to the last one. They say, Sen's player most likely to compete in the Summer Olympics. My pick, well, yeah this person's pick, is JBD competing and sailing. They have to break his name down to just letters to make it sound less posh. Also equestrian as a goalie discipline. I like that the whole reasoning for like, JBD competing and sailing is like, oh, he's really, he sounds his name sounds really posh. No, but also his hair, like I see his hair as like a sailing guy. Yeah, yeah. Because it looks wind swift at all times a little.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, I can see that. I feel like when they did a, um, ah there was like a TSN, you know, so ands call out their teammates thing. I think last year where she had a very detailed answer for basically this question. And he said that Jake Sanderson would compete in like athletics. So maybe that I'm going to trust you on that one.
01:05:45
Speaker
excited Um, here's a joke that probably no one's thought of. I think Tim Stutzel would be an Olympic diver. Hell yeah, he'd be so good at it. Yeah, nobody's ever made that joke before. I just invented that. That's like getting out of nowhere. That was so unexpected.
01:06:03
Speaker
ah I think that Josh Norris should try out a sport that does not involve the use of his arms, given his problems with his shoulder and the fact that he shouldn't, he doesn't have a shoulder right now. So I think he should try out soccer because I definitely know how soccer works. And from what I understand, I'm sure you can play soccer without a shoulder, right?
01:06:31
Speaker
We're gonna piss off so many soccer people in this episode. I'm so sorry. If you're into soccer, I'm so sorry. Why? Okay, wait, let me think of one other than soccer. I don't want them to get mad at us. Um, maybe he could do... What sport doesn't require the use of your arms? Don't just think about things all the time when you have podcasts. I don't know. Just kidding. Maybe like, uh...
01:07:02
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um What the fuck? Why can't I think of anything? The cycling the of the Olympic? I feel like it doesn't put that much pressure on your arms. It must be at the Olympics. I don't know.
01:07:22
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We're experts at this. Um, Thomas Chabot could do, on top of equestrian show jumping, of course, could do any like long distance running or something, anything that's like, you know, you've got to have that endurance. Oh, Thomas Chabot, he never stops moving. So I would say that Brady Kachuk could do like boxing, wrestling, something like that. You know, I feel like he'd be good at it. ah That's good.
01:07:51
Speaker
know Obviously, Alfie would compete in table tennis. Is that an Olympic sport? I don't remember. Yes, it is. It is. um And I can't name anyone else on the sentence. I think we've gone through enough players. Yeah, but you carried that question. Why did I spend 20 seconds trying to think of anything Josh Norris could do and then I gave up?
01:08:18
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um The next question comes from jas at nux sleep demon um who asked gayest olympic sport first question um women's rugby next question oh good answer good answer okay next question oh my god this is sir but sons for you best strategy on powers.com
01:08:51
Speaker
So the context is... um So basically, when I was younger, I used to play this um game called... It was horse dot.com, but it was horse spelled H-O-W-R-S-E, and any horse girls know what I'm talking about. It was THE horse girl game, and it's just a game where you like breed virtual horses. Anyways, recently I was explaining this game to some friends, and I was like, oh, it'd be fun if like to explain the game,
01:09:20
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I created an account and I like, you know, re revisited what the game is like because it's such a complicated game. And it was so fun back in the day. And I was like, I also kind of want to know what it's like these days, how much has changed. And um I accidentally got like really... like This is awesome.
01:09:45
Speaker
um So anyways, yeah, horse dot.com, H-O-W-R-S-E, uh, game. You get to build your own like virtual breeding farm. You have so many horses. It's a great time. I recommend everyone get an account. And the best strategy I would say is to add me a friend. I am, it's just my initials, I think my username is CBE. Um,
01:10:15
Speaker
So you can add me as a friend on horse.com. I would recommend it. That sounds awesome. It sounds like webkins and Nintendogs.
01:10:27
Speaker
Oh, yeah, thats but it seems honestly, so much more intense, like there is so much more to it than that. It is wild. And there is like, see, I remembered this from the game. There are like, super players that are adults, and they just like, they just spend like hours every day playing this game. And honestly, now yeah, I know that can be me. I am now one of those people. Honestly, better use of your time than social media. That makes sense.
01:10:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's this is the new platform. Everyone join. Um, and yeah, and actually, you can talk to people in forums, you can have your own forum and everything. So I say, instead of Yeah, now that we're all leaving Twitter, we just go to horse dot.com. I have a forum now. There's no I haven't posted anything on it. But like, yeah, my equestrian center is called the pink pony club.
01:11:22
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And everyone should go so and hang out in the forum and talk about
Sens and Pop Culture
01:11:28
Speaker
the sons. And that's where we can live tweet the sons. I say this is a flawless strategy. Let's all move over to horse to pick up. This is awesome. It's like, it's like old hockey forums that like bossy was talking about, but it's just like horse themed. It's perfect. Yeah. So thank you at next sleep demon for exposing me and my horse dot.com obsession.
01:11:51
Speaker
um' And Jeff at Next Sleep Demon's last question is ugliest Canadian mayor. um um Mark Sutcliffe. Yeah. Inside and out. and the Yeah. um Twitter user at Next Sleep Demon's first question to me was actually in DMs. And it was, what is your AO3 username? That is the one question I'm not going to and i answer.
01:12:20
Speaker
So I thank you for giving us three better questions than that. Three excellent questions. OK, the next question comes from cursed underscore hockey. um Why did the auto senators sign David Perron and not Eric Gustafson when he was clearly the better choice? um I forgot they did that.
01:12:47
Speaker
I don't know. And I don't know did it because they're stupid. Yeah, probably. Okay. and Next question. Oh, okay. Which hosier song slash circle of hell matches with each sense player from William Coleman. I took this to mean specifically songs from Unreal and Earth. um So I did write down a few here.
01:13:14
Speaker
I see who is Francesca is the song Francesca, ah specifically the line I tell them put me back in it. I think it really represents him like, spending his life chasing a cup on a hopeless team and then being like, put back in it, put me back, put me on the Ottawa Senators, and just loving the sense so much that he will gladly live through hell. So nice. Is it?
01:13:44
Speaker
It's a little sad. Tim Stetsa is damage gets done um because it is about, you know, children being blamed. Well, the line being blamed for a world we had no power in. And I think that represents how Tim Stetsa gets saddled with the blame for the sounds not being good. When like he didn't ask for this. It's not his fault.
01:14:09
Speaker
It's also so nice. These are early... Why are these songs so sad? It's hosier. I don't listen to... You said it. I said I like the... Is this what they're about? Yes. ah They're also extremely horny songs. That one's about Josh Norris, whichever one is like that.
01:14:37
Speaker
um I said that that Eugene Melnick is Eat Your Young because that's about you know just punishing children and you know so messing up the world for children. right the It's about greed and capitalism too. The line is getting the children for a war drum, putting food on the table, selling bombs and guns. It's quicker and easier to eat your young. it's That's self-explanatory. That's Eugene Melnick.
01:15:06
Speaker
I think Lena's Olmarch is the song First Light because it's all about emerging from the darkness, hope for the future, right? I can scarce believe what I'm believing in. That's how I feel about Lena's Olmarch being on the Ottawa Senators. And finally, Brady Kachuk is the song First Time because it's about being kind of in limbo, condemned to darkness, just like how Brady Kachuk has been forced to endure this endless rebuild.
01:15:35
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Also goes for Thomas Chibon, I think. This is so nice. Nice. Well, nice in that um it's so depressing.
01:15:50
Speaker
So next question from at underscore Liam, Liam, Liam is which sunsplayers have the best or worst dental dental hygiene? I'm not.
01:16:05
Speaker
Sure. I'm really bad this episode. I'm so sorry. I don't know any of your answers. Um, okay. I'm going to say worst. Like probably Brady Kachuck just cause it can't be good for your teeth to just chew on something at all times. So I feel like he's doing something to his enamel. Best. I feel like Tim Stutzler just because he seems like he flosses or maybe Giroux. I bet Giroux flosses. Oh yeah. like Yeah. Yeah.
01:16:32
Speaker
Um, I don't know. I think everyone else has like medium, good dental hygiene like hockey players, like their hockey players. So they don't think, um, next question is from at CC dries, uh, who asks, who would you want to queen out with on the team? We answered this earlier. Yeah.
01:17:00
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yeah Moving on, atjordawesome asks, who do you think are the most online Sims players? I sure hope they're not online. Yeah, hopefully no one. If someone were to be online, I mean, Josh Norris has had a lot of downtime, just in general, which is sad, but true. I feel like Norris isn't online. He just spends hours and hours like scrolling through TikTok.
01:17:31
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Like, no one's posting, I don't think. I can't. I think that's the thing. I can't imagine anyone on the sends like having like a secret account or something. I think Shane Pinto is pretty online. Oh, yeah, his dad is the most online actually. Yeah, yeah.
01:17:48
Speaker
Yeah, actually, yeah Shane Pinto, good answer. Shane Pinto loves to just like randomly tweet at like whatever football team he supports. I can't remember who and be like, let's go or whatever. And it's kind of like, I'm like, that's nice. Whereas i feeling like i like Josh Norris is just like, he's watching hours and hours of sports podcasts. He's like scrolling through TikTok. And it's just like incomprehensible videos is brain rot. Like not even he's not online.
01:18:17
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He's just consuming really easy content. This is a long way of saying I think Josh Norris is too dumb to be really online. No, that there's no such thing. No such thing as being too dumb to be really online. There's anything since Twitter taught us there's no such thing. I just don't think I don't think he's interested in like having any serious conversations or looking at anything serious. He's just looking at very low effort. Yeah. Meaningless stuff.
01:18:45
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Because like online almost implies like you are getting sucked into some sort of discourse or something like that. Like you have to like you kind of like you're so online that like you have certain opinions on stuff. I think like Josh Norris sees like a meme or a TikTok and laughs and scrolls and I like I don't know if that counts as being online.
01:19:06
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So yeah, um, and then the last question comes from at patty can 32, which sends player is which emotion according to inside out logic? So I just pulled this up here, the emotions and inside out in case anyone forgot, I still haven't seen the sequel. I really need to again, I saw it. I'm not watching. good like me Yeah, it's good. Yeah. Yeah.
01:19:32
Speaker
Anyways, um, so the emotions are joy, sadness, fear, disgust, and anger. Um, and then later anxiety and the embarrassments on the, and possibly nostalgia. Um, so right away, I would say Brady Kuchuk is joy. It's just a very joyful man. Or maybe Josh Norris. No, yeah even very joyful man, but also has been through so much. Yeah.
01:20:03
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But he still endures, so maybe that's part of it. um Yeah, I would say Brady Kachuk, though, for Joy. Yeah, yeah. That feels right. Who would be sad now? Oh, none of them seem that sad. I in the set just think of Quinn Hughes. Nobody is as sad as him. It's true. Wait. Yeah, I don't know if any of the songs are that sad. It's a very joyful team.
01:20:31
Speaker
Yeah. may Oh, I think like check in after they miss the playoffs again, and we'll probably see you finally. Like, who can't take it anymore? speak I would say, okay, maybe Tim Mestuzza would be disgust, because I feel like he's always disgusted at things. He's like, I can't believe I got tripped again, you know?
01:20:54
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yeah and Fear, who would be fear?
01:21:01
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See, it's not a very fearful team, you know? Yeah, I don't think anyone's really afraid of anything on the team. If anything, they're a little too bold sometimes, you know? Yeah. They need to, like, trade for a fear. Probably. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Sorry, these are terrible answers. Yeah. It's just because, like, they're not very, like, multi-faceted men. So, like, they're all just, like, either, like, joy or anger.
01:21:31
Speaker
ah Yeah, they all have kind of the same personality. Yeah, see, yeah, anger, that could be a lot of people. It could also be Brady Kachuk. I feel like he's very angry.
Sens Players' Emotions
01:21:41
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i anxiety Again, that's just Quinn Hughes. like Nobody on hear on the set is anxious. Yeah, and he is everyone because they're all right like, again, if anyone, maybe it's Brady Kachuk of being jealous of like, uh,
01:22:00
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bath check But it's like probably just all of them who don't have a cup. No, yeah, he's not. Maybe and yeah his english generally he's not. um you like The thing is, is that that and every exit interview, they're just like, I mean, they're all just like, I mean, it sucks, you know, you want to be competing, you see guys competing, you want to be competing. So it's like, oh, all of them.
01:22:24
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all of them. Maybe Thomas Shabbat because he's just been around the longest and not made the playoffs so he's a envy. Yeah. Embarrassment. It will not be ready to try. Definitely not. Um, embarrassment.
01:22:43
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but can I just remember after the biting incident, when someone literally asked Brady Kachuk in a media scrum, do you ever feel embarrassed? Like, do you feel the emotion of embarrassment? And he was like, oh And because he's the captain, I feel like he coached it out of everyone else. Because I feel like I can't Like, the thing is, like, okay, a lot of them, obviously, like, when they miss the playoffs again are like, I mean, it's embarrassing, but it's like, nothing they do individually, I think they find embarrassing. Yeah, definitely not Travis Hamanek.
01:23:24
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No, definitely not. Um, sorry, these Yeah, it's hard. Okay, yeah, that's one I think that's what we can do. Yeah, on we I don't think anyone is Pathetic about anything like they're gonna get there probably Yeah,
01:23:41
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the fans the fans are on we e Yeah, good point nostalgia is I'll be 100% that's the right answer Okay so That was all the questions we had I'm just I'm just gonna repress the Twitter right now just in case anyone got in some last-minute questions
01:24:05
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and
01:24:08
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Nope, but that's it. And I'm just going to check the Tumblr. I'm so sorry for not posting on Tumblr. Not much. I will do better. So anyways, thank you everyone who submitted questions. Without you, we would have just had one hour of me explaining dressage. So much appreciated.
01:24:29
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and hope everyone enjoyed me going horse growth. This was such a horse century episode. It was awesome. This is the new one.
Olympic Equestrian Enthusiasm
01:24:39
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Elite Horse brand. It's like the Olympics bring this back in me because, you know, the Olympics are always a time when, like, everyone else is watching your sports, you know, because everyone's watching all the sports and it's the only time that, like, people have opinions on equestrian sports and people are watching them and I have to, like, and I'm explaining things and I'm also seeing terrible takes. So I kind of become
01:25:04
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um more horse girl during the Olympics. And I guess it it gave us incredible content. Yeah, well thank you and thanks to all to the listeners who submitted horse related questions for allowing me to go full horse girl in this episode.
01:25:22
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And yeah, that's, that's it. We will see you next time. Whenever the Sends give us something to talk about, there will be less horse content next time. ah Thank you so much. If you sat through that whole thing and are still listening and yeah, thanks for listening. I already said that. I i don't know how to do a podcast anymore.
Social Media Sign-off
01:25:44
Speaker
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