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EMERGENCY PODCAST: All part of the plan
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The playoffs have started, and that means it's time for a mostly unedited, emergency podcast to assess the damage from games 1 and 2. We discuss Brady Tkachuk finally scoring a between-the-legs goal as well as our worst fears and biggest hopes about this team. It was so over... but we have the potential to be so back.
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Brady Kachunk - 'Brickhead' and Team
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I don't even know what he's thinking, he's just a complete brickhead. Uh, Brady Kachunk. Thomas is my best friend. I got a lot of good-looking nukes on my team.
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You just got a newf. I've just had I've just
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had them, we'll
Craig Anderson Episode Introduction
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see. Do I get us started? Who is, wait, who is the player? You have to ask? I'll say it. Oh my gosh, I'm so dumb. It's episode 41. I know, I'm embarrassed.
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We'll leave that in. Okay.
Reflections on Crossover Episode Success
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Hi everyone and welcome to episode Craig Anderson of Elite Sense Brain. What a fitting player to have has our namesake we don't talk about last episode and the player was almost named after.
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Beata and today i am joined only by my co-host, a Twitter user, no, BlueSky user, EricssonSprinter. five Yeah, it's just us today.
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Hope everybody enjoyed our massive crossover crossover episode. We had a great time. And of course that was our playoff preview, but we are now recording this one right after ma the day after game two ah the sense leaf series.
Emotional Responses to Sens vs. Leafs Playoff Game
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And we, we kind of said we need to just like, we have so many thoughts. We need to talk about this.
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Yeah, it had to be the day after though, because actually last night I was like, i need to text her that I can't record, I'm too sad. I woke up and I was like, again, it's fine, we're fine, we're back.
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Like, I was doing a lot of copium online, so like, we're fine now. to We got called out by our friend Luke Paristi. he ah he said that we needed to get it together. eventually.
Unfiltered Sharing on Blue Sky
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eventually said on the Welcome to Your Carlson Years podcast that like i live online like it's just like when I see the bad stuff online I'm like oh my gosh I need to post about it online like truly every thought that was going through my head it's like delivered directly to all my Blue Sky followers I was doom posting guys you have no idea how much I was holding back there are so many posts I didn't send
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And I'm going to talk about, I'm going to say these things here on this podcast. Also, ah fair warning people, we are basically not going to edit this. So we're exposing ourselves. You're going to see how often we pause and say um and talk over each other. I'm really sorry.
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Yeah, we it's it's it's down to the wire. We need to get this out before tomorrow.
Brady Kachuk's Between-the-Legs Goal Debate
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Emergency podcast. Yeah, emergency podcast. And you know why we call this podcast? We actually only needed talk about one thing.
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This one incredible thing, the greatest like achievement, the greatest moment that we just have to like stop drop everything to talk about, which is Brady Kachuk scored a between-the-legs call.
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In name only a little bit. Like, it's officially credited as a between the legs goal, but everyone who's listening knows how it went. was the funniest. I can't believe, I think you posted about this.
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In all the ways we were trying to figure out the funniest way he could get a between the legs goal, we never had Banks it off, like, in, off, like, an opposing player. Like, that's so funny.
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it's so good because, like, you watch the replay. And what is he even doing? Like, that puck is not going anywhere near the net. He's clearing the net, basically. Like, what is the thought process? You can see why he never succeeds with this move.
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Speaker
He's so bad at it. You're like, Brady, why did you pull this off? And yet, it goes in. I saw some Leafs fans being like a Brady could check goal like off like it was a pass and I just like banked in and I was like I'm pretty sure it wasn't even intended as a pass like I'm pretty sure he intended that to be a shot and you're right that's why this is the first time it's ever happened for him.
Ranking Kachuk's Goal in Life Moments
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Congratulations, Brady. What a moment. Literally, I have to assume that like in terms of like ranking the best moments of his life, it must go like this, then like birth of his child or whatever. Like this is definitely number one.
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Well, yeah, he's been working up to this for like what? I think it was four years. Like, yeah, well, you posted about how you wrote an article about it. um like two years ago. In Yeah.
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Yeah, and at that point it had already like been enough of like lore to be able to like write something about it. So like it's been a while. yeah and he kind of stopped trying it for a little while. like He's gone through phases. Sometimes he he decides not to try it, and then he does, and he's like, oh, I gotta keep trying this. I gotta get it.
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So expect several more attempts in the next few games, is what I'm saying, and none of them are gonna go in. Literally, I also I posted about this because as I said, I was posting all my thoughts and just as they came in.
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i was like, that's actually such a funny thing. Like in general, it's funny thing to do. It's funny when he does it in the regular season. It's so funny to be like down in a series and you're losing and everyone's so mad and you lost 6-2 the previous game.
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And to be like, wait, wait, wait, I know what I have to do. And i can't believe it worked.
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I gotta try this and I got a whiff horrifically but still pull it off yeah oh my gosh that was the guy the best moment of and like the yeah go ahead so the way my mentions blew up like thank you everyone I love that this is my brand it's truly the best like I think probably more people talk to you about it than Brady Kachuk like I think that like this was you who did it mostly Probably.
Impact of Kachuk's Goal on Game Momentum
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And I was riding that high for like the rest of the game. Once that happened, I was like, you know what
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I'm happy now. Vibes have shifted. Like we're winning the cup. Everything's great. Thank you, Brady, for that incredible playoff moment. Yeah, it good. i loved it. Yeah, people like Leapsmans just didn't know the lore enough, though, because they were just like, what?
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Why was he trying to pass like that? Like you don't even get it. hmm. Only Sens fans, only extremely online Sens fans who follow me specifically will understand. And that's exactly who he did it for.
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I was even disappointed that the broadcast didn't mention it. I was like, TSN would never do me dirty like this. They would have talked about it. God, it's so inspiring. Like, man, dreams do come true.
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oh and anyways I think that's all we got to say about that goal which is really cool a great podcast episode bye everyone no um now now we need to to have a discussion uh how are you feeling about the Ottawa Senators right now i okay I was scrolling through like all my posts because I was like what was I saying and like I truly people always say this I went through the five stages of grief really, really fast.
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Because I was like, but I didn't watch the, I thought that like, if I watched from the beginning, because last time, like for game one, I watched from the beginning. And then they immediately went down to nothing, right?
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i was like, oh my gosh. but then I was like okay what if for the first part of the game I don't watch it like I'll just like I'll have it like I'll be refreshing NHL.com to see the scores and I'll be refreshing the feed but I but won't be watching it and then they also went down to nothing that time so I was like okay now I start watching and then they tied it so I was like I'm a genius but like in general and was like after game one i was like you know what That's game one. Who cares? Like this was who cares?
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This one hurt. I was like, I really thought they were going to win. I really thought that like Godet's crystals, like everything was aligning. I was like, this is such a Sens win game. And then they lost and I was so sad. But then i like came back and I was like you know it's only two games. Like we still can win this.
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Speaker
Yeah, I feel like after game one, i was like, catastrophizing a little bit. It's just, we're gonna talk about this in a minute, but it's it's not just the fact that they lost game one, it's the way that they lost, where it was like, all of my worst anxieties about this team...
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came true like all of my worst fears in the last few years it was like just a montage of them in that game it was the worst case scenario and i was like oh my god this team like they're not built for the playoffs this is a disaster we're gonna get swept And I just kept thinking, but then I kept telling myself, like, you know what, there's time.
Sens Playoff Performance and Improvement Needs
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Like, as long as they play better in game two, like, that's what's important. They need to turn this around and they can.
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um So I was, like, trying to calm myself down. um and then after the first period of game two, I was like, I wish we never made the playoffs.
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But then after game two, I calmed down. Because again, my expectation going into game two was I need them to either win or I need them to play better than they did in game one.
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Because, like, we'll get to this, but honestly, winning, like, losing the first two games on the road is so normal. This happens all the time. i kind of went in thinking this is going to be a long series. the chances are pretty good that Toronto wins the first two games, and that's fine.
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um So, like, I, you know, once they played better, I was like, okay, this is fine. Like, I can deal with this. We just gotta win at home. I'm stressed about winning at home, but like, I'm feeling actually fairly optimistic right now.
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Yeah, I think that like, ah you also had crazy prediction skills because I don't know, like I read it, I don't know if everyone else read it. The like round table you did like on Silver 7? Yeah.
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Predicted it, like, almost exactly, except for you got the score slightly wrong, because, like, they it was 3-2 instead of 2-1. But I was like, what the heck? Yeah, everybody else in the Silver 7 roundtable was predicting a win, and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna set my sights low. Like, I still, I didn't want be like, they're gonna lose 5-0, they're so bad, but I was like...
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You know what, I think they're still going to lose, but I think it's going to be an acceptable loss. And so I said they're going to lose 2-1 in overtime, and they're going to go home down to nothing in the series, but with confidence.
00:11:06
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And that is, except for the score, that's exactly what happened. So it's fine. I predicted this. It was how I, it was honestly how I hoped the game would go.
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You know, obviously i wanted to win, but I was like, this is, i'm so I'm setting my sights low. This is the bar, you know? her yeah it was very like, I was like, that honestly calmed me so much to know that that was your prediction.
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Because I was like, okay, like, that's fine then. Like, you don't predict the apocalypse. So it's like, it's fine. Like, it was a fine, it was a good prediction. And it happened. The one thing upon the way they lost in overtime, i was like, I'm not even going to his name. i was like, get this guy off my team. i was like, for so many reasons, like get his ass out of here. I hate you so much, this guy.
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but the The combination of like that happening and then the new Jajay, it's like, oh my god, leave. Like, was going to say something much meaner about what he should do.
00:12:12
Speaker
Yeah. It's implied. Censored. Extremely censored. Like, whoever is, like, if there's, like, an agent, like, monitoring me when I watch the games, disregard.
00:12:27
Speaker
didn't mean what I said. But, like, oh my god, get him out of this city and get him off of my team like I hate him so much ah yeah I was I was full of rage uh also didn't love um who scored for the Leafs just because like i don't know the narratives sometimes right it's like It's like, you know, it's part of the reason that I think it stings so much, ah the idea of losing to the Leafs, because it's like the narrative of the Sens coming back to the playoffs and like finally being able to like slay this demon, you know, that and change things and like actually show that they are a new team and things are going to be different this time. Like beating the Leafs is the perfect way to do that.
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And the idea of them coming back to the playoffs and just like losing to the Leafs. I'm like, nothing has changed. Literally coming back and like losing because Adomi scored. I was like, ew, that's literally disgusting to me. And also like I saw, I don't know if this was real.
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Speaker
It probably was. saw this like dumb post that was like, oh my gosh, like he scores with like his dad in attendance. Like, you know what I care about? Thomas Shabbat's mom and dad were in attendance. Why isn't that a narrative?
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I know. So, yeah, I guess we're kind of um approaching the reason that I was catastrophizing. That's my word of the week, because that's exactly what I was doing after game one.
00:13:57
Speaker
um So we were thinking maybe to discuss these games, we would start with ah the negative so that we could end on a more positive note. um Do we want to talk about the bad things about the scents the first two games?
00:14:12
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Yes. yeah I think it'll be like a purging. Like, it's like, we'll say it, it'll be gone, and then hopefully they won't do it anymore. anymore Yeah, and it's like, maybe if I say these things aloud, finally, um they will seem silly, and people can reassure me.
00:14:25
Speaker
Do you want to start, or should i You can start. okay ah um So here's why I was freaking out a little bit more. I know that everybody says, like, oh, the Sons are playing with house money and everything, but um we have spent...
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eight years saying, at least this team is built for the playoffs, you know, like just get to the playoffs and that's all that matters. And my God, if this team gets to the playoffs and everybody underperforms, like, what are we doing here?
00:14:56
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Truly, what can we even say to ourselves? And I know like logically that like it didn you know, one their first playoffs showing doesn't mean anything, but I think I was just spoiled by those, like, incredibly pesky teams of the, like, from 2013 to 2017 that I'm like, no, they need to come to the playoffs and immediately, like, you know, punch above their weight and cause problems for better teams. And you just, watching them completely crumble in game one,
00:15:27
Speaker
I was like, oh my God, this is a disaster. Like all my dreams about this team. Yeah, I feel like because it's like, I think I've like subtly like in my mind, just like rejected the idea that like playoffs are different, which like they obviously are different, but it's like that thing of like, you need guys with playoff experience. Like this is like their first, like so many people's first playoff game on the Sens where it's like, they don't, they have no experience. Right.
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So I was like, before the series, I was like, that's a fake narrative. created by big hockey media to like whatever to like put the Sens down a little more like an inexperienced team they play hockey for their jobs I was like they're experienced enough this is their job it's like they just got put on a new project or whatever but then I was like oh my god maybe maybe that's true like maybe they don't know how to win in the playoffs and that's really bad actually Also, like, I've been so afraid to admit this, but I finally have to
00:16:32
Speaker
There have been so many moments since about 2021 where i have watched this team and said, i don't think they're built for the playoffs.
00:16:43
Speaker
Because, you know, you talk about, like, oh, the team is so tough. They're agitators and stuff. But, like, this team, the moment things start going badly for them, they crumble, right? They have, like...
00:16:56
Speaker
we can probably count on one hand the number of times they have scored with their own net empty since 2021. The comeback against the Leafs was the only time that they pulled off a dramatic comeback in this entire rebuild, you know? Like, they have no ability to, like,
00:17:12
Speaker
just you know get things done when they need to and every time things start going badly they just dig themselves deeper into this hole and this season has been slightly better in that respect but i just kept thinking like they're gonna go to the playoffs and they are going to crumble because also every time the games matter they fall apart right like the beginning of the season when they have a real chance to make the playoffs they're like nope 20 game losing streak, not 20 games, 10 game losing streak, you
Skepticism and Hope for Senators' Comeback?
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know?
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And then the moment that it's like, oh, maybe if they go on a winning streak, they can put themselves back in contention. Nope, we're gonna keep losing. We don't want that kind of pressure. And just watching this over the years, I just keep thinking like, man, this does not bode well.
00:17:58
Speaker
and And again, game one just like brought back all of those anxieties. Yeah, I think like watching like the rebuilding team for so long, there was always a vibe.
00:18:09
Speaker
I think the vibe finally kind of left this season where it's like, we all know it. If they went down by two or more, even if it was very early in the game, whatever, we were like, they're losing. Like I was like, there's truly no point in me watching this game. They are going to lose.
00:18:23
Speaker
This season, it was a little, I don't actually know how many comebacks they actually had, but I was like, you know what? Maybe we keep watching. Like there were some instances where I was like, this team might be okay, even though they went down one or two, like maybe they'll come back. And there have been times when like, okay, they did play well and they did like maybe tie it or something.
00:18:40
Speaker
Game one I was like, as soon as they got it scored on once, in my head, I was like, they're like this it's over. yeah like I was like, there's no point in watching the rest of this game. it is truly over. like i just and I was watching with other people who were like, no, let's keep watching.
00:18:56
Speaker
I was like, you don't know it. You don't know what I see right now. They're losing this. Yeah. And I hate to make this comparison. i really, really do. But you know as a counter example, I look at...
00:19:10
Speaker
This year's Montreal Canadiens, which truly have 2017 Ottawa Senators vibes. This is a team that is bad, but they're losing 2-0 with 10 minutes left in the game. You know for 100% they are going to find a way to tie that game.
00:19:27
Speaker
and force overtime, right? like They always have a fighting chance, and I know this because I've been rooting against them, and every time, every fucking game, they're losing with 10 minutes left in the game, and I'm like, well, guess they're going to overtime. there's I hate this team.
00:19:43
Speaker
I hate them. But like I look to that team, and I'm like, that's a team where if they get slightly better, if they have you know better players, ah hate to say it, but you kind of feel like that's a team that has a fighting chance in the playoffs.
00:19:58
Speaker
And even going into the playoffs, you know that like they could take down a better team just by like pure vibes. Which, I mean, that's the last playoff experience I had with the Sens in 2017, when they could just like find a way to win. And I feel like this version of the Sens is just not able to do that. like How many times have we watched games you where we're like, well, you know what, they played well, and they were actually only losing by one goal until, like, the last minute when they gave up two empty net goals, and, like, oh, if it wasn't for that weird penalty, or for, you know, the goalie not being able to make a save randomly, like, that's the reason they lost. If it if not for that, it would be fine.
00:20:41
Speaker
and it just it reaches a point where, like, when they lose like that so many times, you start to think, maybe the problem is the team. Maybe they're not just unlucky, you know? If this is a pattern.
00:20:52
Speaker
Yeah, like, they they weren't, they're not the peskiest, and that makes me very sad. Like, I don't like that, like, other teams, I'm like, why are you doing that?
00:21:06
Speaker
Like, especially the Habs, oh my gosh. like
00:21:11
Speaker
But, game two, they did do the same thing, but then tied it. Like, yeah obviously they ended up losing, but... i like i so I kept watching. So they had gone down. I didn't watch it. So then I turned it on because I was like, okay, me not watching is jinxing them. So now I will turn it on now that they're losing.
00:21:30
Speaker
And I was like, i think I... So I started watching during the second period and I was like, okay, wait a second. and I'm seeing shades of the team that I saw earlier in the season where i'm like, maybe they can come back. and like make this a game like it didn't seem like it was gonna be like a 6-2 type deal again you know yeah truly I thought the turning point of that game was a beautiful Tim Strzler dive um it got they got the sense of power play they were really good on the power play even though they didn't score and from then on like I thought they were really good they played a great game ah you know Brady got a lucky goal and I was like you know what
00:22:10
Speaker
this team cadna can get it done. I think they can tie this. And then obviously like devastating that they ended up losing an overtime, partly because you know an overtime loss or and an overtime loss means the same as a 6-2 loss, right? like It doesn't really matter, but I did like what I saw from them.
00:22:30
Speaker
Yeah, I was so sad too because when Gaudette scored too, I was like, this has a Sens win vibe. like this is tea This game has a vibe that the Sens are going to win. And then when they didn't, I was like,
00:22:41
Speaker
So, but yeah, I think I started thinking, oh, how nice, like I had set my expectation of it's going to be 2-0 Toronto, the series, right?
Optimism for Senators' Upcoming Home Games
00:22:51
Speaker
And I, but I had this moment where i was like, but what if it ends up being 1-1 and then we go to Ottawa and I ah truly believe they are going to win both of those games in Ottawa. Like I feel it in my heart, guys, don't worry. It's going to happen.
00:23:05
Speaker
Hopefully. But yeah, I like, so I'm like, you know what? Maybe they're going to be okay. Like, is I said this on Blue Sky. Game one, i was like, my view of it now, that is a wash.
00:23:18
Speaker
They, that that's nothing. That's a nothing game. Like, that's like, Toronto has all the playoff experience in the world. Even though it wasn't, it's always not always successful playoff experience. We're now deciding that that matters.
00:23:30
Speaker
So that's, game one, they got it out of their system. That's your learning curve game. That's you were onboarded. Okay, whatever. You're done now. Yeah. Game two, he brought that same energy in the first period. So I'm like, okay, i like imagine, i like imagine like, got like, a like obviously Allmark, I think he's been like fine, like as fine as you can be when you gave up like six goals in one game. But like, you know, it's like, he's fine. But it's like, imagine he was just like randomly like really, really clutch in the first period while they were like still kind of struggling through it. Like very different game.
00:24:05
Speaker
Obviously that didn't happen, but I'm like, Maybe. Yeah. i i don't know. I feel like they turned a corner. I feel like they got comfortable with playoff hockey. They realized they could win.
00:24:16
Speaker
And even though they lost in overtime, like they are going to Ottawa knowing that they can beat this team. So i think I think it's going to be fine. both of we have to remember, guys, both the Leafs and the Sens had some of the best records in the league at home and like bad records on the road.
00:24:36
Speaker
So just saying. I feel like this bodes well for a big comeback in Game 3 in Game 4 as well. Truly, I think they are going to tie the series.
00:24:48
Speaker
I believe in them. The other thing is that it's like, once, like if they win next game, like if they win Game 3, I'm like, god that's as if they got the split. And then like, it's all, it doesn't matter anymore, you know?
00:25:05
Speaker
And then it's like, if they... Yeah, they have to win one game in Toronto at some point. Yeah, exactly. But like, I think that like, I don't know. I saw some people being like, no, like they need to win. And it's obviously we would have liked them to win game two, game one and two. It would have been amazing.
00:25:23
Speaker
They didn't. But it's like, I myself was like, this means it's over. But actually, then I then I napped and like I slept and I was like, no, it's not over. Sometimes all you need to do is sleep.
00:25:35
Speaker
Exactly. Like, it truly, i i know it's stressful, like, oh my god. But truly, i watch a decent amount of playoff hockey. I at least pay attention to the series. And it happens all the time, guys.
00:25:51
Speaker
All the time that one team wins the first two games and then they go to the other city and the other team wins the other two games. And like game three is always, I feel like sometimes that's the most consequential game because it's like the difference between three nothing and two one is astronomical, right?
00:26:09
Speaker
But truly, that's how quickly the momentum changes, right? And you're like, guys, you're all forgetting that this is extremely common for teams to go down to nothing in is in a series and then end up tying it.
00:26:23
Speaker
It's definitely possible. Yeah, the thing, I think it's like, it's still possible. They just have to like not blow it. It's like if they just need to like lock in, like truly just like stop being bad. And like, I think we saw that in like partway through game two.
00:26:40
Speaker
they They took that advice to heart. And I was like, okay. Yeah, I think they could do this. The one thing is obviously losing those first two games. They now have very little wiggle room, you know, i like they could afford to lose one more game and that's it.
00:26:55
Speaker
And if they lose game three, no more wiggle room at all. They have to do the reverse sweep, you know? So it's a little stressful, but truly i think they could do it I believe in them.
00:27:10
Speaker
And you know what? Also, this team, we've seen how streaky they are, right? When they're on a roll, they just keep winning. They've had so many winning streaks. So I think they they have a decisive win in game three, and then they just keep winning.
00:27:28
Speaker
I agree. That's, I'm manifesting that. And you know, you can't, I said this also, and everyone agrees, you can't win in six or seven unless you lose two, at least. Exactly.
00:27:40
Speaker
And again, they always say you're never in trouble until you lose a game at home, because like I said, it happens all the fucking time but that one team goes ahead to nothing and then starts celebrating and they're like oh my god the series is basically over and then bam the other team wins game three they win game four it's all tied up happens all the time the other thing is that i keep seeing things or it's like any other year i would be more cynical of this but like truly this is how scared i am like literally yesterday
00:28:11
Speaker
When was watching the game, all I could say was,
Cautious Optimism about Leafs' Current Team?
00:28:13
Speaker
I'm afraid. I'm afraid. Like, I just kept saying that and couldn't say anything else. But like, okay, I keep seeing things, obviously, that's like, is this Toronto team different?
00:28:21
Speaker
Like, is this the one? And any other year, if they were playing any Florida team, I'd be like, obviously not. Cringe. Lame. Stupid post. But now I'm like, wait a second. Oh no. Did we face the one different Toronto team?
00:28:36
Speaker
But I'm still missing it though. That was another thing I thought of after game one, where like I have watched a lot of Toronto Maple Leafs playoff hockey, because I root against them every year. And I was like, I don't know, guys, this team looks different. But then remembered, no, actually, they did they have looked like this at points in the playoffs. It's fine.
00:28:57
Speaker
they i still believe in their ability to collapse. Yeah. i I really think that they can still collapse, yeah. Like, I think that they, as much as the Sens can still win this, the Leafs can still lose this.
00:29:14
Speaker
like you Like, they both, I think we, I can see both very much happening, so Yeah, what is sad is if the Sens win, nobody's going to give credit to the Sens. They're going to be like, I can't believe the Leafs blew it again. And it's like, um give us a bit of respect here. Like, the Sens won a series.
00:29:38
Speaker
Honestly, though, if that happens, I'll take it. If people are like, yeah and they're like oh, the Sens didn't defeat the Leafs. The Leafs defeated themselves. I'll be like, whatever. ah Same diff to me. Whatever. I literally don't care.
00:29:51
Speaker
People are also always, they keep being like, Toronto has gone ahead to nothing in a series for the first time since, like, the last time they won a series, basically. Wasn't it the first time since 2002? Because somebody made a joke about 9-11 happening that year. Like, earlier that season.
00:30:13
Speaker
um that's how long it's been. everyone's like, oh my god, it's so different. And I'm like, okay, guys. They did go ahead famously 3-1 once. They're the second seed multiple times in these series. Like, let's let's simmer down a little bit, guys.
00:30:30
Speaker
My thing is that it's like, if the Sens win game three, which like they must, they have to win. If they win game three, and it's like one is 2-1 no matter how you got there. There have been times when i like the Leafs have been 2-1 before, so it doesn't matter.
00:30:45
Speaker
And in fact, it's better to be 2-1 I'm going to do so much copium. It's better to be and the one team just won, because now it's like the tide is turning, the momentum is shifting.
00:30:59
Speaker
My The guy predicted Game 2 almost exactly, and my prediction for Game 3 is I think they come storming out the gate, they are energized by the crowd that is going to be almost entirely Sens fans, and they are just gonna, like, score their first goal, they're gonna take an early lead, they are going to pummel these Toronto Maple Leafs to the ground, and we're gonna feel amazing after Game 3.
00:31:26
Speaker
I'm truly manifesting this. Like, I want this so bad. I'm also like looking to you as like, you are like, what I'm like your disciple or whatever. I'm like, really? It'll happen? Because like, I believe it. I believe it all. Remember, i believed the Sens making the playoffs all season long. i said, I could just feel it. They're gonna, they're gonna make them. off So basically, I'm a prophet.
00:31:49
Speaker
Literally. the and Honestly, that and the game two prediction, I'm like, whatever you say. i know this team. I know oh they wrote how like how this works.
00:32:00
Speaker
And I'm telling you they're gonna tie up the series. And then I don't have a great feeling about game seven, but we're not there yet. They will bring it there, at least. But manifesting. They like touching wood Don't worry also about jinxing. We're touching wood and everything.
00:32:17
Speaker
We are. And like, It's really... The thing I was just most afraid of after game one was, like like I said, if the Sens just completely crumble and show no fight at all, and we're you know we go into the offseason wondering if this team is built for the playoffs at all, and like what we're even doing here. And, i mean, obviously i need them to win against the Leafs. I really, really need this.
00:32:42
Speaker
But... If they can just make it a fun series, if they can show some fight, also show that the Leafs are not that good. Because the other thing I was afraid of was like, oh my god, if Leafs sweep this series, they're going to be juggernauts going into the second round, you know? Because they've never been able to finish off a series quickly, right?
00:33:02
Speaker
so just, oh my god. just Just extend it to seven, and then we'll talk about that later. But for now, but now just like push it to six or seven games. Yeah.
00:33:14
Speaker
And yeah, before I was like, I will not be happy with anything other than a Sens win. And that's still true. But now that I'm like, wait a second, I really don't want them to get swept. I'm like, my bar is lowering.
00:33:26
Speaker
I know. It's like now I've I've come face to face with like one of the possibilities. And I'm like, oh, OK, well, if a win is too much to ask for, let's at least lose with dignity, you know? Yeah.
00:33:40
Speaker
Let's get some respect in the handshake line. OK, guys. Exactly. Yeah. The other thing, though, is that it's, like, the Leafs... I didn't also allow myself to agree with this one because I was like, no, be quiet.
00:33:55
Speaker
It is true that the Leafs are expected to win this. Like, if they don't win, it's, like, really embarrassing for them. So, like, whatever. Like... But it's also like, oh my god, we can't lose to the fucking Leafs. Like, truly, the Leafs losing... but This year, the Leafs losing in the first round is more important to me than the Sens winning a round, you know?
00:34:17
Speaker
no literally. it Like, it's very true. Like, if they were playing separate series against the Florida teams, and someone... And, like, a genie was like, I have two options for you. Either both teams advance and p play each other in the second round, or both get eliminated. i wouldn't even have to think about it. I'd be like...
00:34:34
Speaker
with there's always next year let's get them both eliminated you know yeah so I think I like I have had a stomach ache for many days but I think it'll all be okay hopefully think so and you know what I don't even want to think about the possibility but If they go down three nothing remember what we predicted in our hit our playoff preview.
00:35:02
Speaker
We predicted a reverse sweep. We said that is the most painful way for Toronto to lose. I mean, but also the last time I thought the Sens, the last time I truly believed the Sens were going to reverse sweep a series was the Habs in 2015, which ended with that stupid early whistle on Peugeot that I'm still not over.
00:35:24
Speaker
So i don't want to ever i don't want to ever see this team put themselves in a position where they have to reverse sweep. Because the payoff would be great. I've seen seen the alternative. Yeah. like yeah Again, you hope that they just win in four. But since that's not the option anymore, we have to just like we have to play with the hand we've been given.
00:35:49
Speaker
We do. I also want to briefly say um i I love Ridley Gregg so much.
00:35:57
Speaker
Truly the star so far. Like, I love also, who was like looking at, I think I like, I don't know what I saw. Like it was on Reddit or something. But like, I saw the video obviously of like Stolarz just like beating his ass for no reason. Well, like we know the reason, but like whatever.
00:36:14
Speaker
And then people were like, actually how did like what did they even call right because they got pet they got matching like they got offsetting penalties so I was like okay what the hell so people are like what is he even being called for here like what and someone was like well he technically didn't do anything but when he skated into the blue paint he knew what he was doing know
00:36:39
Speaker
ah know He like, but also it's so funny to be like, oh my God, Ridley Gregg is being like bullied. He's being beaten up for no reason. This poor little boy. Cause like we know.
00:36:53
Speaker
Like to be clear, I know that he knows what he's doing, but it's like, you can't say that that's the reason for the penalty. You can't be like Ridley Gregg two minutes for knowing that he's being so annoying.
00:37:06
Speaker
so I was like, and then, yeah, there was just so much about like, I think that, The discussion on Twitter, which like I am not privy to, I feel like it's like that discussion about reffing is just like, I don't even want to know what goes on there.
00:37:22
Speaker
on Blue Sky, if I follow you and you're a Leafs fan, you have been muted at this point. So I'm in an echo chamber and it's lovely. i just see all the people I agree with.
00:37:36
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really sorry to the people that I am on friendly terms with who are Leafs fans. Nothing personal. all all I'll remember to unmute you once your team has been eliminated. But yeah, i also just, oh my god, it's just so funny to watch Ridley Craig in the playoffs, because also, like, doesn't even talk shit. Like, somebody, I forget who was pointing this out on Blue Sky the other day, but it's so true, where, like, he's not even going up to people, like, you know, chattering away the way, like, Brady Kachuk and even Koji Ru are. He just, like, gets in people's way, and then he just, like, you know, new throws hits or whatever, and everyone gets mad, and he just sort of
00:38:16
Speaker
she shrugs it off, you know, he'll he'll fight someone. Doesn't say anything to the media afterwards. It's so good. Yeah, he's just like the purest, he's like, what's that called? Like, the platonic ideal of like a shit disturber. It's just like, no, no. It's like, perfect.
00:38:34
Speaker
I absolutely adore him. I hope he gets the series winning goal.
00:38:42
Speaker
Praying.
00:38:45
Speaker
It's like, I don't know. i feel like people mischaracterize Brady Kachuk sometimes as, like, the player Ridley Gregg is, right? When, like, truly, Brady just does silly stuff. Like, sometimes he's, you know, getting in people's faces and stuff, but most of the time, like, he's not, like, scary, you know? He's not throwing dangerous hits or anything.
00:39:08
Speaker
He's just, like... ah being dramatic about something whereas Ridley Gregg he's the one he's he's evil you know he's like he's doing evil things he has plans so those are our thoughts on games 1 2 I wish the sense had played better but I truly am looking forward to 3 and 4 I believe in the sense I keep saying this I also believe in them because the alternative is just
00:39:41
Speaker
You may as well just believe, you know, like why?
Choosing Hope for Senators' Playoff Success
00:39:44
Speaker
It's like that thing where it's like, if you don't believe, then you'll just be sad twice. Be happy for now Yeah, this would have been a very different podcast if they had continued to play the way they did in game one, beginning of game two.
00:40:01
Speaker
And look, just like I said, I got my my anxieties out, I expressed my worst fears about this roster, and okay, I talked myself out of it.
00:40:15
Speaker
but So now that we've talked about those games, we thought we would quickly do our playoff
Discussion on Playoff Brackets
00:40:21
Speaker
brackets. Just talk about the other teams, because obviously we haven't done a podcast since the matchups have been confirmed.
00:40:29
Speaker
And, you know, our our playoff preview was the Zoopcast one where we were focused on just the Sens. So we're going to go through some of these series and just rapid fire decide how they're going to go. So ah starting with Toronto, Ottawa, we have already said our piece about this.
00:40:46
Speaker
Are we saying Sens in six or Sens in seven? I, on my official NHL bracket challenge bracket, put Sens in seven. i did too. Just the narratives.
00:40:56
Speaker
The vibes. You know? Yeah. I hope they do it in six, but but I think it's going to be seven. Also, again, the thing about like both these teams are very good at home. So I think Toronto wins game five, but...
00:41:11
Speaker
Sens in seven, that's our official prediction. Now, hippa Florida. think it's oftentimes when you're like looking at the matchup where you're going to play the winner, you always want to be like, I want this to go seven. I want them to beat each other up. I want them to be like you know extremely beat up by the time they get to the second round. But I'm like, no, I want them to sweep so that whoever wins Toronto-Ottawa gets Has like a very difficult opponent. it Because I don't give a shit if the Sens lose in round two.
00:41:46
Speaker
But you know who I really need to lose? Toronto. ah real relax. so So that's my thinking. I am hoping for, well now that Florida's won game one, hoping for Florida sweep.
00:42:02
Speaker
know you've said that I'm like yes you do hope for a Florida sweep on my official one I put Florida in six because I feel like I always I'm like Tampa's washed now and then they're like never washed so like what the hell see when it with this thought they've been washed for so long but also every other year they have been like uh exhausted from getting really far in the playoffs the previous year I think last year was the first time that they came in well rested and you know, they faced Florida who won the cup. Right. So I can kind of talk myself into Tampa ah having a back and making it far in the playoffs because they've had a lot of rest. They're still really good. They're still the team that won all those cups. So it's like, you know what?
00:42:50
Speaker
I could see it. I almost... prefer Tampa over Florida because Florida's also gone to the final two years in a row now it's like I actually kind of feel like Tampa's probably gonna win this yeah I like I always just like underestimated them but I was still like okay I feel like Florida's just too good but like I don't know I truly don't attention to any teams that much I know.
00:43:20
Speaker
i so i will say I'm rooting now for a Florida sweep, but I feel like it's going to be Tampa in six.
00:43:28
Speaker
Does that make sense? Yes. All right. i but Rapid fire. Let's move on to the next one. oh ah ah but ah My nightmares.
00:43:39
Speaker
um Washington, Montreal. i didn't watch the first game. I heard everyone saying that Washington did not look good. ah Montreal did what they do. They overcame a, like, oh, wait, no.
00:43:52
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah. i Sorry, I was looking at the score, and I was like, it was 1-0? No, the series has won nothing. Montreal overcame two-goal lead and forced overtime, but then they lost it overtime, so it's fine.
00:44:05
Speaker
Truly, truly, I think Montreal wins in seven, but I don't want to say that. I like, okay, I have many Habs fans in my life, so I'm, like,
00:44:17
Speaker
ah Like, but the Habs fans in my life are the most pessimistic people I've ever met. They're like, this team sucks. And i'm like, what? Really? And then you watch them you're like, don't know if this team sucks so bad, but okay, whatever you say.
00:44:30
Speaker
I just like believe them too much where I'm like, okay, I believe you. So I have Washington and five on like my official thing because I'm like, I believe you that the Habs suck. i i think, like I said, Montreal has 2017 Sens vibes. They are a bad team, but they have that dog in them.
00:44:48
Speaker
They will find a way, you know? yeah And they didn't find a way in Game 1. This is going to go out after Game 2. But I don't know. feel like... ah And again, Washington has first-round exit vibes.
00:45:04
Speaker
And I don't think Montreal is going to make it far in the playoffs, but I do feel like they can overperform. Which is why I feel like this is ah this is going to be an upset. That's fair. As soon as though saw like Washington win game one, because this entire time i was like...
00:45:20
Speaker
if they do have first-round exit vibes, I really feel like it's going to be, like, that um Tampa team that, like, didn't they, like, get swept when they... Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, okay, as I feel like when they didn't get swept, like, obviously they won a game already.
00:45:34
Speaker
I was like, okay, wait, I'm, like, confident in my prediction now. Because I was like, I was like, if they do, if they are first-round exit vibes, I was like, I feel like they just collapsed so hard.
00:45:44
Speaker
And then it's just, like, over. Yeah. But I'm thinking, remember that Bruins team from like two years ago that set records with their like points total? I think they lost in seven, didn't they?
00:45:54
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I think you're right. Like, I think the first round exit doesn't always happen in four, but it happens, you know? I think it's just like, we don't have excuses or whatever. That like famous, like whatever, is just so in my brain that I'm like, whenever a top seeded team loses, I'm like, I'm pretty sure it'll happen in four. Yeah.
00:46:15
Speaker
yeah I hope you're right. And you know what? What this means is that if this Montreal team loses, what absolute losers that they couldn't even beat the team with the most like first round exit vibes ever.
00:46:35
Speaker
Yeah. So, okay, what are we saying? I think the official Elite Suns brain prediction should be an optimistic one. Let's say, do we say Washington in five? Sure. Let's do that.
00:46:47
Speaker
I do feel like it's a good omen that Washington won in overtime. Because it's like, now they're not getting too comfortable, but also like, the magic is wearing out. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
00:47:01
Speaker
Uh, Carolina, New Jersey, everyone seems to agree this is going to be a sweep. i' I'm like so hesitant to predict sweeps for some reason so I officially predicted Carolina in five but I'm like I this New Jersey team does not even seem that good like I think they put fewer points than the Sens I'm like they did fake team yeah we're saying five then Yeah, four or five, I think. like Also, like Carolina, I truly feel will do what Carolina always does, which is make it to like the conference finals and then lose yeah or whatever. like
00:47:38
Speaker
Exactly. Well, I think either way, they've got a pretty easy matchup in round two. So well' I guess we'll get to that later. Okay, moving on to the West. Do you believe in the Winnipeg Jets?
Predicting Winnipeg Jets Playoff Success
00:47:51
Speaker
I do. I also have them in five because i I will never predict a sweep. But like, I believe in the Winnipeg Jets. I do. And I do not believe in the St. Louis Blues. I think I have them in seven, actually. Yeah, that's fair. I'm like, I'm just like, Winnipeg has been so good in the regular season for so long where I'm like, maybe now, like, this is their year.
00:48:15
Speaker
But I'm like, don't know. You never know. Yeah. ah Dallas, Colorado. Everyone seems to agree this is like the matchup.
00:48:28
Speaker
Like potential Western Conference final happening in the first round. Uh, sounds like Dallas has had some injury troubles. I look at me knowing my hockey. It's because I'm listening to all like, I'm paying attention to all the NHL stuff waiting for them to talk about the sentence. And it's always bad what they say about the sentence, but I need it.
00:48:46
Speaker
Um, anyways, yeah. So Dallas has been kind of bad lately and had injury troubles. i I think Colorado wins this one. Yeah. I also how like in my head and also in my bracket, like have Colorado winning, but I was like,
00:49:03
Speaker
I'm like, wow, how is this the matchup? I guess because Colorado randomly didn't get them any points this season. But I was like, I feel like these are two very good teams. Like, it's crazy that they have to beat in the first round.
00:49:16
Speaker
And Colorado has like proven themselves in the playoffs too. So I say Colorado, you know what? I say Colorado does it gets it done quickly. They go in five because everyone keeps saying if Dallas can push this to six or seven games, they get all their like, well, they get some of their injured players back.
00:49:35
Speaker
And I think Colorado just like gets it done in five. i can see. Yeah, I agree. Okay. Next, Vegas, Minnesota, which is currently 1-1.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah, I thought it was going to be Vegas dominating. I think last game, they did not. Last game, what was it even?
00:49:59
Speaker
I don't know. It was Minnesota. I saw like Evolving Wild on my like feed and I was like well sorry winning by that much actually doesn't mean anything the Leafs one six two exactly but yeah so I but I'm like still like I'm pretty sure Vegas will win because like the vibes I get is that they will always win Yeah, I think they win too.
00:50:25
Speaker
And then our final one our friend Oily Gifts ah is listening, so we gotta be careful. ah What do we think, LA Edmonton?
00:50:37
Speaker
officially predicted this because the alliance stays strong to me. i have Oilers in seven. I'm like, I believe in them. Hell yeah. Um... Okay, look, Oily Gifts, if you're listening to this, I'm contributing to the underdog narrative. I am, you know, jinxing you so that you win this.
00:50:57
Speaker
I do think, I don't know, I've seen it happen so many times that a team has like a magical run to the cup final and, you know, after years of not being able to make it very far, and then they just like completely implode the next year.
00:51:13
Speaker
and I don't know. Maybe just because it always happens to Canadian teams and not in the American teams, but I'm like, i I have read this script before. i know how this works and it's a first round exit in seven games.
00:51:29
Speaker
But i I mean, for oily gifts sake, I hope that doesn't happen. But yeah, my bracket, I did two brackets, one that was like what I hope happens and one that was what I think is going to happen. And the one that was like actually what I think is going to happen. I did have Edmonton or no, LA in seven.
00:51:45
Speaker
i also had Montreal in seven. So, you know, I it's it's not that I want it to happen. I should have done two. I only did one. So I had to balance like my dreams with like reality. And it's like, I don't know.
00:51:59
Speaker
But actually, Gifts, so that you don't hate the podcast. I have the cup final as Sens Oilers. So. Well, see, no, I couldn't even do that in the one with what I want to happen. Because I was like, I can't, we can't be pitted against Oily Gifts. Like, no, we would hate each other. We can't do this. know.
00:52:19
Speaker
yeah In my dream, it sends Oilers and then like, they just are all like, we'll let the Sens have this one and we'll get them next time. And then they're all friends. See, I spared us that.
00:52:34
Speaker
Okay, so do you want to say the official Elite Sense Raid prediction is we believe in the Edmonton Oilers? I don't know. But, like, we both had it in seven, so it's like, yeah it could truly go either way, i guess, according to us.
00:52:46
Speaker
I honestly, in my head, LA is still bad because they're the LA team that, like, originally was, like, in the draft lottery who then drafted Quinton Byfield, who has made them not bad, assume, but I'm, like, in my head, I'm living in that 2020 draft forever.
00:53:01
Speaker
I'm, like, they're still bad in my head. So whenever, like... And also, feel like this is always the matchup, right? This has been the matchup for, like, years. So, i don't know. It's like, eventually you've got to break through, unless you're the Ottawa Senators against the Toronto Maple Leafs in the early 2000s. But, you know.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah. So, I don't know. I guess our official prediction will be series in seven. Let's say Oilers. Let's be optimistic here. yeah um Okay, second round.
00:53:31
Speaker
We have Ottawa Senators versus Tampa Bay Lightning. I don't give a shit who wins this one. I think the Lightning win it. Well, no. Wait, I forgot. We were going to do a bit for this. It's not a bit. It's my life.
00:53:47
Speaker
We won't cut it. Don't worry. um i Well, I can't see this going any other way Ottawa in four. yeah Sens, they learned to win in the playoffs, even though they have not won yet in the playoffs. But in this in this thing, they have now learned.
00:54:06
Speaker
They are now a speed ran understanding how to win, and they studied the game tape and whatever. And so, yeah, Sens sweep. Yeah, okay. ah The other series, we said Washington. Which one did we say?
00:54:21
Speaker
I think we said Washington. yeah any case, I think Carolina was. wins yeah whoever they play like against whoever they play Carolina in six because they like to make things more complicated than they need to be but yeah yeah let's say that uh second round Winnipeg versus Colorado think Colorado wins I don't believe that much in the Jets I agree I'm like it'd be nice for the Jets also fuck Canada's team no truly
00:54:54
Speaker
I think like, do. want the Sems to have all attention. ah The one thing I'll say about the Winnipeg Jets, I like how their fans all coordinate their outfits. I'm like, that's cool. Like,
00:55:07
Speaker
That it is cool. Okay, I will say though, the thing where they chant True North is so cringe because that's like the organization that owns the team or whatever. And i still remember I went to the Jets game in Ottawa and there were like a decent amount of Jets fans as there usually are for any Canadian team in Ottawa, right?
00:55:26
Speaker
And they sang the anthem the way they always do, which is like the middle part in French, which means that the True North part was in French, right? And the fucking Jets fans still chanted true north at that part.
00:55:38
Speaker
I was like, you losers. What's even the translation of that part? It's like, true it's completely different, isn't it? Yeah. um like Isn't it?
00:55:51
Speaker
you say put say birthday de like quas That's true north, strong and free, right? Yeah, yeah. yeah I think it's something like that. Yeah. It's so funny. It's completely different. Yeah. Yeah, well, because in English it's with glowing hearts we see they rise the true north strong and free. And then in French it's ka car but pay it say birthday like So yeah, it was like they they were singing it in French and they were chanting true north.
00:56:16
Speaker
It's like what? They are anti-prancophonie. not Not a true Canada's team. That's so funny.
00:56:27
Speaker
um So yeah, for that reason, i'm Colorado will win. I just realized I never told that story on the podcast and I was like, i need to I need to make fun of Jets fans.
00:56:38
Speaker
To be honest, though, if Sens fans did it, I'd be like, you guys are so funny. Like, exactly. I think it was funny that they sang that part of the anthem in French. They always do. But I was like, it's a little extra funny against Winnipeg.
00:56:51
Speaker
the
00:56:54
Speaker
um Okay, Vegas versus Edmonton. We're taking Edmonton, obviously, right? Yes, obviously. As i said we know the cup final. Yeah.
00:57:06
Speaker
Cool. Now, Eastern Conference Final. Ottawa Senators versus Carolina Hurricanes. Once again, i think the Sens sweep. I agree because here's the real... If you pay attention to the Carolina Hurricanes, every year they're a cup contender. I'm doing air quotes.
00:57:25
Speaker
Every year, this team is going to win everything, blah, blah, blah, whatever. They always lose then. They always choke. ah really don't i don't know if they choke. I think they bring it to a decent amount of games. I think for a while, it was just like they kept losing to Boston.
00:57:40
Speaker
And Boston's not here, but Allmark is here. close enough. It was also, they just kept only winning on the road her only winning at home and then losing on the road.
00:57:51
Speaker
Losers, who does that? can't imagine. um And then I guess, so in the West, it'll be Colorado-Edmonton. I mean, obviously.
00:58:04
Speaker
we want our cup final. Yeah. If not, like... yeah so yeah if not like I see it happening still. I'm just like, for some reason, I'm like the Edmonton Oilers can do anything. I think because I haven't actually watched an Edmonton Oilers game. So I'm like, I don't even know if I watched when they played the Sens.
00:58:23
Speaker
So I'm like, in my head, they're just that same team that went to the Cup Final and that's the last time I paid attention. And also like, Oily gives tweets. So they're perfect, I guess.
00:58:39
Speaker
Great. So now our cup final is Edmonton Oilers versus Ottawa Senators.
Senators' Playoff Sweep Prediction
00:58:45
Speaker
And, you know, once again, hard to see anything happening other than Sens sweep.
00:58:53
Speaker
bro
00:58:55
Speaker
Yeah, so Sens win a hard-fought first-round series in seven games and then just sweep the rest of the playoffs. Exactly. Put all your money on this.
00:59:07
Speaker
Just kidding. don't Don't do that, but only because we're not sponsored by any betting companies. We don't condone betting, but this is our betting advice if you want to make a ton of money.
00:59:23
Speaker
Exactly. So with that, hope everyone enjoys hopefully game three. we can get this out early enough. I'm going to try really, really hard.
00:59:35
Speaker
Hope you enjoyed this podcast full of weird pauses. aye so san Go Suns Go!
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00:59:42
Speaker
Go Suns Go! Bye! Bye. We won't even plug our stuff. You know where it is. Yeah, it's fine. Bye.