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Specialty Rescue and Animal Husbandry?
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Welcome back! This week, after the normal Rigmarole (hurricanes, chickens, conferences, and emergency services); Ron talks about the specialty rescue teams and how people get stuck in some precarious situations; Chris brings up if more of us should utilize animals to help us out in nature. As always please like, subscribe, and share with your friends. Come join the discussions on the Discord Channel (https://discord.gg/TbxA7gcUky) and follow us on Twitter, @cltruitt22. Thanks and take care!
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Podcast Introduction & Weather Chat
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of the Mythic Draft Podcast. I'm Chris. And I'm Ron. And we're brought to you today in sunny, sunny weather. Yeah. Yeah.
Tropical Storm Ophelia & Hurricane Season
00:00:11
Speaker
The tropical storm has come. Yeah. What's the name of this one? Ophelia? Ophelia leg. Yeah. Coming. One of those random storms that everyone saw hits the mouth of the bay and just comes up the bay. Yep. Yeah.
00:00:28
Speaker
surprising, because I mean, it's not like we're in hurricane season or anything. Uh, no, we still are. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's my favorite thing under a state of emergency or anything. Well, you guys are. Yeah. Uh, but that's my favorite thing about the shore. They schedule all these things in like September, October. Yeah. That's prime hurricane season. No, that's the time these things happen. Yeah.
00:00:54
Speaker
And then we're like, oh, we didn't know this was going to happen. It's like, well, you know, again, also a hurricane. It's not like you just wake up, you know, and it's like, oh yeah, sunny skies. These things develop. Yeah.
Storm Impact on Local Activities
00:01:07
Speaker
Yeah. And this one's, I mean, this is the, this is the first one I've seen for a tropical storm where they were like, you shouldn't be out on a boat. Yeah. Cause that's how like debate, like I saw the Bay advisor. They're like, she seek shelter in a Harbor now.
00:01:24
Speaker
Oh, well, that sounds fun. Yeah. Oh, I hope their harbors aren't like Salisbury's where they're only open Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. And only certain Sundays. Well, the harbors open. Well, yeah, but no services are closed. Yeah. Does the harbor master always just have to wear like the the yellow slicker or some kind of slicker with the hat and have a little lantern?
00:01:53
Speaker
I don't think that's
Community Concerns & Inconveniences
00:01:54
Speaker
the Mortons Fisherman guy you're talking about. Yeah, but I feel like the harbor master should look similar. Hmm. I may should look like the sea captain from Simpsons there. That's what they should. Yeah. Yeah. With a little cat in the hat. Yes. Yarr. Yarr. That's. I don't even know who the harvester is in Salisbury anymore. I don't know.
00:02:21
Speaker
We have one. Yeah, there's some guy that you can call. But we used to have a full time one hour and now we don't know it's part time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think they're hoping that when that developer builds those condos right across from the chicken processing plant that they will take over the marina. That's a. Weird hope. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I asked, I was like, have you talked to Purdue about
00:02:51
Speaker
The smell has gotten much better. Every time I have to go out town in the summer, I'm like, Oh God, how do people live like this? Yeah. Like we, our offices, we can't open windows because it's a secure building or whatever. But anyway, I could smell the chicken inside my office. I'm sure. Yeah. I was like, Oh my God. It's like seeping through the masonry.
00:03:16
Speaker
When I'm done being the hazmat team leader for the city of Salisbury, which is getting closer and closer every day, uh, one of the things I will not miss is having to go do the hazmat safety plan every five years. And they always call in like, in like August and they're like, Hey, can you come to it now? Let's do November. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, uh, and I mean, I'm not a big poultry fan anyway, but then after that, it's just like, no, I want nothing to do with chicken.
00:03:47
Speaker
It's like, I can remember when we would take those tours and you would see the, you know, the line and all of that. And it's like, and they'd be like, here, we'll give you some chicken to, you know, cook for dinner. It's like, no, I'm good. No, no. Yeah. But then there's the maniacs were like, Oh, fine with it. I'm like, what is wrong with you? You're not human. And again, I don't understand it with chicken. I get, you can open a package that has steak in it, set it out on your counter for hours.
00:04:13
Speaker
No smell. Sure. Chicken. You barely cut the plastic open and it's rot. Yeah. Hmm. I feel like chicken smells worse,
Hurricane Preparations: Then vs. Now
00:04:24
Speaker
faster than fish. Probably true. You reckon me really make a good case for my vegetarianism. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like one of the things you don't miss is vegetarian. You're like, Oh, like I don't have to go to the grocery store and feel like I'm giving myself Salmonella by touching things. Oh God. Yeah.
00:04:42
Speaker
Yeah. And chicken has a weird texture. Yeah. Times. Yeah. I mean, chicken wings are good. That's about. Yeah.
00:04:57
Speaker
You know, you can just have the vegan nuggets and they're just as good. Yeah. Yeah. I've got some good vegan nuggets. It's just fried breading that you care about. Oh, yeah. It's the coating. It's not. Yeah. It's not that it's not chicken. Yeah. That's like, you know, I can get, you know, Buffalo and it was it like Nashville cauliflower or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Just as good. Yeah. Sometimes a little slimy. Yeah. Depends on how they cook it. They got to be really careful how they cook it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:05:26
Speaker
That's like, I got thinking, you know, hurricane, you know, there was a time 20 years ago that hurricane, I better go get a 30 pack, you know, have a hurricane party. Now I'm like, I have enough seltzer and chicken fries, tater tots. Yeah. Yeah. We, uh, you know, we put gas in the car yesterday. The guy's like, Oh yeah. Get ready for the storm coming up. I'm like, I just need a gas. Yeah. Doesn't really. Yeah.
00:05:55
Speaker
I was really thinking about it. Not going anywhere. Yeah. Yesterday I was like at a quarter tank of gas. I was like, I'll just wait till tomorrow. Cause I'm sure there's a bunch of people who can fill up a storm. Right. Yeah. That was the worst part. Like yesterday we get to the grocery store. Oh my gosh.
00:06:12
Speaker
But it's a college town. So college kids weren't, they don't care. Oh yeah. They're the ones out there buying the 30 packs. They're the ones buying 30 packs. They bought the liquor store that had been stuffed full of them, but the store was fine. Yeah. I can just remember that Simpsons episode where like Appu was scratching out dog food and writing hurricane food on things. I mean,
00:06:38
Speaker
We're very lucky in that where we live, hurricanes are not traditionally that big of a deal.
Cave Rescue in Turkey
00:06:45
Speaker
We were that and we've got a fairly resilient infrastructure that we don't lose power and water for weeks at a time. Yeah, which oh, my gosh, I was at this trauma conference yesterday and there was a guy talking and he was from
00:07:09
Speaker
one of the USAR teams, I think he's from jerseys. But he was on the line or radio or whatever when I and I didn't know about it. Earlier this month, there was a cave rescue in Turkey. Yes, there was. Yeah. Yeah. There was four of them and they're all like, well, two were super experienced and two were totally jumping over my topic for the day. OK, then I'll stop immediately. Just jump right into my topic. Stop. OK, I'll stop.
00:07:39
Speaker
Yeah, to do that. I don't. It's just the crazy things. Way things work.
EMS Conferences & Challenges
00:07:43
Speaker
Yeah. I was I was disappointed at the trauma conference. There was only two of us from Salisbury. I don't know how many were online, so. Right. Probably not that many. Well, there were only seven EMS folks in the room. Yeah, so. But and the majority of them were not. Not not EMS folks. No.
00:08:08
Speaker
I mean, it's a good conference. Our new assistant medical director. She had one of the first presentations. Oh, good. I remember your thought academies. Oh, yeah. You know, you know, you'll see her. She'll be around for paramedic refresher. I don't have her first this year. Well, then. Yeah. Yeah. I refresh. I think we might. And you guys don't work Monday, do you? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to figure out times for her to come around and meet everybody.
00:08:39
Speaker
It'd be good for her to ride. That would be good for the people. Yeah. We're actually talking about that Monday to get her scheduled so we can figure out when she wants to ride. Yeah. But I was going to say about these trauma conferences. I've been to numerous conferences and one of the problems with these interdisciplinary conferences is a lot of times they just don't apply to you and your job.
00:09:01
Speaker
Yeah. You know, and sometimes it feels like, Oh, okay. I just sat through a three hour lecture. It has nothing to do with me. You know, and I'm not going to stall EMS out. I went to, to FDIC and I was like, none of these things apply to me. These people all live in a fantasy world. Yeah. I went to a conference in FDIC and I went to one of the things and the guy's like, okay. And your sixth man on the engine does this. And I'm like, I'm sorry. What did you just say? Yeah.
00:09:30
Speaker
Yeah, so we have a staffing of six all the time. OK, well, this is at 1943. What dream world are you living in? Yeah, we have three people. Well, you know, when they aren't running calls, they're out whitewashing the picket fence. Yeah. Yeah. Getting their pickle cake or whatever. Pickle cake. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And the hazmat ones are. Oh, my God. Yes.
00:10:01
Speaker
Oh yeah, we put our third hazmat team on there, so we get an extra 36 people. Oh yeah. And of those 36, 34 hazmat techs and two of them are hazmat specialists. Yeah.
00:10:15
Speaker
Yeah, I went to a conference once. And it was in Baltimore for Asmat and the guys like, yeah, we're really trying to get up with an NFPA committee and really change the recommendations to you have to have 24 technicians on scene before you start any hazardous materials. And I was like, Well, we'll never start a hazardous materials. What world do you think that that's acceptable? Yeah, FDIC, or I mean, FDIC, FDNY. Maybe. Maybe.
00:10:45
Speaker
He's like, well, you know, in our department, we have we have 48 technicians on scene on shift. I'm like, OK, well, my department, I have to. And that's not even guaranteed. Yeah. You know what? You kind of got to live differently than that, bud. Right. Luckily, I think that I'm pretty sure because I followed the NFPA committee and they were like, yeah, that's not happening. Yeah, that's not the world we live in. Yeah. But you're right. It's some of those. And it's like, you know, oh, you know, when the fourth paramedic gets there,
00:11:16
Speaker
Or, you know, well, you know, you're in the ER bay and your two trauma surgeons and your cardiothoracic tech. It's like, what, what, what dream world? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and it, it must be great to live in that world. Yeah. Right. It must be like, I have unlimited resources all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But we don't have time. Those are the same people that, you know, you'll do a tabletop or whatever. I'm like, yeah, well, you know, the,
00:11:44
Speaker
The local ER has zero patients in it today. It's like, okay, scooter. Right. Yeah. I saw that on D shift the other day, they had 71 patients in the ER waiting room. Yeah. That's just the waiting room. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think there's 70 beds in the ER, something like that. Yeah, probably. Yeah.
00:12:12
Speaker
So that means there was 140 people probably plus some. Easily, yeah. Sitting in the ER. Yep. You know, at any one time and we're just like, let's bring more. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah. It's an interesting world we live in. It
EMS as Essential Service
00:12:29
Speaker
is, it is. That's so, that's so, actually, I went to a tabletop with BMC and they're like, well, we're going to, we're going to evacuate all the patients. I said, okay, how are you doing that? Yeah, yep.
00:12:41
Speaker
Well, we're going to put them on ambulances. Where are the ambulances coming from? Then there was the same one that they got mad at me because they said, well, we're going to call the hazmat team. They're going to come to our hospital and they'll do decon there. And I said, well, here's the problem. The hazmat team is already on the call. Yeah. They're already there. They're already committed.
00:13:09
Speaker
There's no other one. Yeah. Those are the elbows and alligators, folks. Right. There's not a second one going, Oh, we're just waiting around. Oh, you want our standby hazmat team to come. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I wasn't aware. Second one sitting around all these years. They've got a special phone they pick up to call them.
00:13:31
Speaker
Yeah, they're on the way. They're about two and a half hours out. Yeah. So good luck. Yeah. And that's if they're not running calls. Right. Because that's the thing people don't understand is in any of these big emergencies or anything, regular calls are still happening. Yeah. Yeah. Just because, you know, a sinkhole opened up, you know, Grandma Schmerken's on the other side of town still fell and needs help up. Mm hmm.
00:13:59
Speaker
You're still getting your chest pains calls. I was telling you before, we were literally one call away from 911 having to say, there's just no one coming. At that point, we would have been calling Sussex County and hoping they had a unit somewhere available because you're not calling Somerset County. Why not?
00:14:27
Speaker
Because we're already got three units of Somerset County. I truly feel we were talking about Somerset County. I guess the lower, the Chrisfield people, they work for the town. And I guess the town made the comment, well, they're supposed to be in our town covering. And I kind of agree with them.
00:14:57
Speaker
They don't want to be AVL'd and covering calls in Salisbury when they should break this field. I truly feel for these departments that just have to cover other people's calls because you are constantly out of your district. When you're not in your district and the call comes in, well then
00:15:15
Speaker
So we asked your district and then it just becomes this cascading. And the problem is, and I'm not throwing shade at anybody, but, you know, so you have your jurisdiction and you are like, OK, this is we're staffing it with this minimum qualification and people have this training and this and that. And then they get called somewhere else. And you're like, I have no idea who's coming to you now, folks. Right. It could be, you know, Billy Bumpkin and, you know, Freddie Finger that are coming to take you to the hospital.
00:15:44
Speaker
Well, not on that, but when these jurisdictions do their staffing decision making, they only look at their calls. Oh, yeah. Right. They're not really looking at, and it's almost impossible for them to say, well, I need to staff a second ambulance because Salisbury needs me because that's not fair to their taxpayers. Right. It's a whole mess. Yeah, it is. It's a whole mess.
00:16:12
Speaker
can only be solved with money that we don't have. Well, when you're in charge of county EMS. I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think that's going to happen. I can't see a world where
00:16:30
Speaker
take one of those jobs. It's got to be the most frustrating thing in the world. Because you're literally walking up saying, this is what we need, and we can't accept anything less. And well, can I give you two peanuts and a green bean? No. Oh, green bean. Green bean, that solved everything. Yeah. It's one of those, we were talking about it the other day at work,
00:16:56
Speaker
The government is there to provide services. They're not there to make profit. They're not there to make money. They're losing money to provide a service. If you run your EMS department going, well, we're bringing in this number amount of billing, therefore we can have it, well, then you're already doing it wrong. The money you bring in for billing is nice. It just goes back to EMS needs to be an essential service. Yes. Cool. It's clearly become one.
00:17:24
Speaker
in theory, but it's not backed as an essential service. No, no, no. The money's not there working with us, but now we rely on, you know, how about let's say 30 years ago, there was no expectation of ALS. Oh yeah, no. Right. No. Like the hospitals weren't relying on there being paramedics giving drugs. Yeah. Now, if you bring a patient to the hospital. 30 years ago, there were medical directors that were saying,
00:17:51
Speaker
the odds of a paramedic ever looking at a 12 liter slimmed it not. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. And now the pushes for paramedics to start diagnosing people in the field and saying, no, you don't need a hospital. Right. Right. Like the writing on the wall, like we started community paramedicine, but the writing on the wall is that eventually they're going to say, stop bringing people to the hospital. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Do this. That's fine.
00:18:21
Speaker
Yeah. But look, after that conference yesterday, I feel perfectly comfortable doing this oracotomy. Oh, good. Good. I know Lamox now. How's your wound debridement? Somebody else took all that. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Donny! Donny, get in there. Get that cheese grater over there. Yeah.
00:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, the future of EMS is such influx that
Paramedic Careers & Job Market
00:18:53
Speaker
you know, it is. Yeah, this whole podcast could be us just talking about what we think is going to happen. And we'll be wrong. Oh, yeah. 80% of the time. Yeah.
00:19:00
Speaker
Well, and we've talked before about, you know, the staffing shortages and this and that. I was listening to the she's either a current or former director of the London London Ambulance Service. Yeah. The UK is in the same dire straits that we are. Of course they are. Paramedic shortages and staffing shortages and everything. So it's not just us. It's everywhere. I mean. I love being a paramedic like I didn't want to step out that way, but I ended up loving it.
00:19:31
Speaker
But who would want to go through two years of school, all of the crap, all the responsibility to come out and make what ultimately is not a fair wage for that job. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very hard to, I mean, unless you're doing it because you love it. Yeah. It's so hard to say, well, why wouldn't you go to nursing? Why wouldn't you go into X because you're just going to make more money? Right.
00:20:00
Speaker
Yeah. And not get your dick beat in. Yeah. You know. I mean, and maybe that's what we need to start looking at is, do we get these paramedics for a couple of years? And that's all we have them till they do move on. I think that's what's going to end up being. Yeah. You know, paramedics going to end up being a stepping stone, a stepping stone into nursing or flight paramedicine or because
00:20:26
Speaker
Who's going to look at their career and say, I want to do 20 years of getting up at two o'clock in the morning and taking all these calls? Yeah. I'd be shocked to the world. EMS doesn't pay great.
00:20:41
Speaker
No, I saw Cleveland was paying their paramedics in the their first year, $16 an hour. Awesome. And they they just raised it because or if you go to Cleveland and you have more than two years experience as a paramedic, they will start you out at twenty eight seventy five. That's pretty good. That's a that's that's a huge jump. That's a huge jump. Yeah.
00:21:08
Speaker
Because they have to. Yeah. Yeah. But the problem is, and it's what we're seeing, you know, company X raises their rates and then company Y says, well, we're losing people to them. So we're going to raise ours. And then, you know, it's just, it's a vicious circle. I mean, the problem ultimately is going to be this. There's X number of paramedics in the pool. The pool keeps getting bigger. Yeah. You know, where's those paramedics coming from? Right. You know, right now.
00:21:38
Speaker
The paramedics have all of the power. Oh yeah. Which is fair, but they can leave, unless you're offering them something more than just compensation, they could leave you and go, oh yeah, I can find a job anywhere. It's like we used to rely, oh, we've got LiOps. Just bet everybody on the shore has LiOps now. Yeah. And Delaware went to the 30 year thing, which is even better than our LiOps.
00:22:03
Speaker
That's, it's one of the conversations that people need to have is what can you offer beyond just pay to make it worth it? Yeah. How about a nice shiny Zune? Here it is folks. How many paramedic students are there every year? Right. So on the shore there's 20. Yeah. And the problem is most of them already have a job somewhere. Yeah, of course.
00:22:33
Speaker
Yeah, they're already spoken for. Salisbury, we have nine paramedics short right now. And we have seven in class. And so we're already below what we need so we can never expand. And then people are going to leave in that period so we're even further below. And because of how
00:22:58
Speaker
municipalities work, we can't just go out and hire 30 paramedics and say, whoa, we'll staff you until we can't. In theory, it sounds great, but then like you said, you can't find the bodies. You can't find the bodies. We literally couldn't put another medic unit in service in Salisbury. Even though we need it, we just don't have the people. We can't even get the people. It's a problem. It's a real problem for the future.
00:23:27
Speaker
It is. You're absolutely right. Poor, poor, EMS people in the future. Yeah. I look at the guys below me and say, you guys are going to have a shitty time in about seven years. I hope you're retired. I'll be retired too. Well, we're the 9-11 generation, right? We're the generation of firefighters that ran into the call because we're like, oh,
00:23:57
Speaker
9-11 happened. This is our calling now. That generation's gone. We're it. These kids now don't even remember 9-11. No. Half of them weren't born. No. We had that talk the other day. One of the chiefs in our apartment. What did we do for 9-11?
00:24:17
Speaker
What did we do for Pearl Harbor Day? Yeah. You know, it eventually it always fades away. Right. You know, we don't. No one remembers the day. No one remembers VJ Day because our generation. That wasn't a thing for us. Hey, VJ Day is very nice. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Very good. But yeah, no, you're right. It does. But it's
Cave Rescue Risks & Expectations
00:24:41
Speaker
a good thing. Like the trauma of that should go away. Absolutely. You know.
00:24:46
Speaker
Most of the people that were, that survived 9-11 have retired and a lot of the people that have, were started there have now retired. Yeah. You know, it's, it's the world moving on. Exactly. That's the thing. Yeah. It's, it's moving on in the right direction. It's not, I'm going to say, Oh, it never happened or isn't that, but it's, you don't have to. Yeah. No, I mean, probably in another generation, it won't mean anything. It'll be as meaningless as Pearl Harbor day. Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:15
Speaker
I hate to say that to anybody, but that's just how history works. Yeah, exactly. You're exactly right. Well, have we rigged and rolled? Yeah, we've rigged and rolled. Yeah. Let's go right into topic one, which evidently is caves. Well, it's not specifically cave rescue. Okay. And those specialty kinds of rescued, because the turkey thing happened and then there was another article about this dude who
00:25:45
Speaker
got stuck in a cave and like they tried for two days to save him and then couldn't save him. So he's dead. Still in that cave. Happened like 10 years ago, apparently. And I was thinking about it. I was like, man, I did not get in the fire department to go running into caves to pull people out of that. I don't want to do that anyways. Like I don't want to go cave climbing and cave diving. No, no.
00:26:14
Speaker
Especially with. As I say, where's the line where I don't, I can say, no, no, we're not doing this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely one of those that's like, unless you're specially trained, you can win that because like this guy yesterday talking, he was like, yeah, you know. There are some, you know, some of these caves you go in and it's, you know, a 10 inch profile for, you know, 500 yards. I'm like,
00:26:41
Speaker
Why in the hell are you going through that? Yeah. Why did you get in there? Yeah. Why did you put yourself at that situation? And why is it my job to come get you? Right. It's like this group that went in Turkey. It was it took him 18 hours to get to where they were. And I was like, I don't know. There's like three camps inside this cave system or whatever. And he started to like just
00:27:11
Speaker
had a GI bleed spontaneously. And he sent his fiance went out to get help because she was the strongest climber or caver or whatever they call themselves. But it took her 16 hours to get out. Jesus. So she got out, called for help, and I guess went back in or waited for somebody. But they said like the radios wouldn't work past a certain point because they were like a thousand meters deep. Oh, my God. And so they had like base camp to
00:27:39
Speaker
And they were like opening things up more because they knew they were going to have to like voice this guy out. But they would have this little base camp and then there was a we say like a six hour turnaround. They would get radio directions down, send somebody scurrying through the cave system, talk to the people by the patient, scurry back and then relay up. That's insanity. Yeah.
00:28:06
Speaker
Yeah, they they took down whole blood and TXA and all kinds of stuff. It took them what they say. They got to like camp two or whatever it was within like. 14 hours with equipment. By the time they got to him and got him out, it was like four more days or something crazy like that. And I mean, they're doing like TPN and whole blood and all kinds of craziness, but
00:28:35
Speaker
You talk about your massive people. I saw the picture. They had 80 cave rescue technicians or something. And that was just the technical cave rescue people. Right. So could you imagine you're on the medic in the response to that? Oh, my God. And they're like, all right, here, take this bag of TSA and a bag of rangers and go in there and go fix the guy up.
00:28:57
Speaker
Yeah. I'm sorry. What did you say? Here's a flashlight. The one that came to my mind, like these guys who get trapped on the cell phone towers or the windmills. Oh my God. I'm not ready for that. No. I know it's bad to say as a firefighter, but I don't even know where to start. I would get there and be like,
00:29:29
Speaker
Um, sucks. He's really up there. He's really up there. Like, uh, that seems really high. Yeah. But then it, you know, like this, this whole conversation happened in my head. It was reading this article. I'm like, what, what's the line that, you know, because there's something in the fire department about you just go and do it. Right.
00:29:58
Speaker
But there's got to be a line where you say, I'm not doing that. I'm going to get hurt. I'm going to hurt him. Things are just not going to go well. There's got to be a line where you, you as an individual to say, I'm out. Right. Yeah. You know, somebody was like, Hey, that guy's stuck in the shark cage and he needs help. I can tell you, buddy, if you're looking for Ron Wismar, he ain't even going to be near that shark. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of those that like, it's like,
00:30:25
Speaker
You know, Oh God, I'm having chest pains. Ooh, man. Or Oh, Oh, my ankle. Oh, turn my ankle. Oh, Oh, you guys go without me. It's another conversation about the fire service that happens. I was like, we used to, we're trained to put out fires, right? Yeah. You know, it's like the call I went on last month where we went for an airplane that had an emergency. And I said, in my expert opinion, the airplane is not on fire. Yeah.
00:30:55
Speaker
That's all I mean, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. What are you expecting out of me? Right. You know, get this expectation that we're just going to, we have the answers. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm just trying to put fires out. I take some special training in like vehicle rescue. And yeah, I know a little bit of Hazmat cause that's just my own stupid fetish, but you know, to expect me to know how an airplane system works. I was like, are the engines on? Cause I wouldn't know. Just tell me if they're on or off.
00:31:26
Speaker
What's it? I remember that airplane fire course we took or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And they would simulate blowing the tires and stuff. I was like, this is not cool. You guys have somebody else for that? Yeah. You know, but just, you know, there's got to be a line.
00:31:45
Speaker
My brother, he was a volunteer firefighter and he did it for a while and he was on an engine company and he doesn't like heights. He just can't do it. Good for him and smart. Right. And he was like, but it's like 30 feet and he's out. Yeah. And they were like, you got to go up there and ring the bell for fire school. It's one of the things you got to climb up 35 and climb up and ring the bell. And he's like, I'm not doing that. And he's like, they're like, if you don't do it, you're not going to pass firefighter one.
00:32:14
Speaker
And so he went and did it. He passed firefighter one. And he said, I'll never do that again. And if you make me ride, climb a ladder, I'm out. And he was talking to me about getting a job at the fire service. And I said, well, the problem is they'll just make you do that. So now there's a young man who could have been a firefighter who's like, fuck that. You're not going to make me do that that I don't want to do. And I'm not comfortable. I don't want to do it.
00:32:42
Speaker
And I kind of those apartments like he's kind of right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I remember in my little two weeks or whatever that, you know, they would put the old truck 16, like almost straight up and like I climb to the tip and back and I'm not a big heights guy. I got like three quarters of the way up and a pigeon flew in front of me. I was like, fuck it. I'm out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I when I was coming in and New York as volunteer, we had a hundred and five foot stick.
00:33:11
Speaker
And the last rails are, I don't know, 14 inches. They're very tight. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds fun. Yeah. And so I got to that last rail and I couldn't move my elbows. And I was like, I'm out. You know, I can't, I literally can't move my arms. It's so tight in here. I'm out. I'm not climbing any higher. And I got down and they're like, well, you just don't override the rider track. Yeah. And I was like, sure. I mean, fine. I don't care.
00:33:41
Speaker
But that was their thing. Like you had to, you had to climb all the way up there. I'm like, what did this prove? You know? Yeah. It's that stupid machismo that the fire service has. Yeah, but it's probably not serving us well. Oh, no, it's not at all. Yeah. But like, you know, you tell me to go in this cave and go find this dude and get the lieutenant's hole. I'm like, fuck that guy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, but no, no. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't put him. He's one with the bats.
00:34:12
Speaker
You look at the spiders in there. Oh, oh, my God. I would die. Yeah. Or I would open up the cave. One of two things would happen. I would either just have a heart attack and die or I would freak out and just explode the area around me. Oh, that's how my mutant power gets erupted. That's how your power goes in. God, it was like the guy, the guy who they left who ended up dying.
00:34:41
Speaker
They, you know, he got into this position and he was actually upside down and stuck. Yeah. And, you know, some poor bastard who probably has bothered him for the last 10 years had to say, sorry, bud. God. Yeah. We've tried everything. Right. You know. Yeah. And they're doing this for fun is my thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the one in Turkey, they're like, oh, they were going in there to take
00:35:12
Speaker
I don't know, mold samples or something. I was like, no. Yeah. Send a drone or something. Yeah. There's got to be technology that can do that. I've seen an RC car that can go places. Yeah. But I mean, at least the guy, you know, working on the gal, working on the windmill. I mean, there that's a job. It's a job. Yeah. Yeah. And who knows? There could be some mold down there that's, you know, going to cure male pattern baldness. I don't know. Get on it, people.
00:35:42
Speaker
But no, yeah, I don't, I don't, you're taking all these, you got to take nutrition with you and this and that. I know there are these little camps
DMAT Teams & Water Rescues
00:35:54
Speaker
that they can hang out with. I was like, Oh, these little camps is, is there a seven 11 in there for them? As soon as my boss looks at me and like, all right, you're going to go to camp too. You'll be there for three days. I'm like, I think I got some vacation time. Yeah. Yeah. I'm good.
00:36:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to breathe stale air. Oh, and the Usar guy, he was like, well, the good thing about caves is they're always the same temperature. So if this, you know, in this system, if the cave is 52, then this cave is going to be 52. I said, it don't matter, man. And there's really no humidity in there. I was like, I don't know what you think you're pitching, but you ain't pitching.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah. The moment that you're like, all right, the hole's 10 inches, but it goes for six miles and you got to go through it. Yeah. Nope. I'm good. Aren't there snakes and scorpions and bears and shit and caves? Sure. Yeah.
00:36:54
Speaker
Yeah. That would be my luck. Like I would disturb like a badger nest or something. And I'm like slowly shimmying behind me. They're shimmying behind me. I'm going to get you. Yeah. Just shimmy, shimmy, shimmy behind you. Yeah. I'm out. Yeah. That's the nice thing about living on the shore or living on the Delmarva pizza. We don't have caves. Yeah. Yeah. No, it doesn't exist. We're going to have cliffs. I like those, those maniacs who go off cliffs. Oh yeah. And then expect the fire department to come get them. Yeah.
00:37:25
Speaker
Uh, you know, here's a rope. You can come get yourself up. Then we'll, you know, we'll gladly give you a ride back to back to the station, but yeah. And tell you what, once you get up here, I'll give you a bottle of water. Yeah, sure. Tell you what, I'll throw the water down at you. Catch. Catch this as the water bottle has terminal velocity. Yeah. Put the hole in the ground next to you. Yeah. People like, I remember as a kid, like,
00:37:55
Speaker
You know, we've got ditches and there'll be those culverts underneath them. And people would dare you to crawl through there. Why? Why would you want to crawl through that? Yeah. We're dumb. People are dumb. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One funny thing the guy said yesterday, he's like, yeah, because, you know, USR stands for unpack, set up, repack. Because that's mostly what we do. Sure. I was like, yeah, yeah.
00:38:22
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Yeah. We have a young man with our fire department who wants desperately to be on those teams. I'm like, I don't think you understand how boring it is. Yeah. Well, it's in this guy who's like, you know, we get the call and, you know, it takes us 20 hours to drive to, you know, load up and drive down to Florida. And then they give us a mandatory cool down time because you don't want us gassed as soon as we get there. So, yeah, it's, you know, the second day easily before we're doing anything.
00:38:52
Speaker
Oh yeah, I was on that DMAT team. I don't know where it happened at, but when they were talking about deployment and stuff, they're like, all right, we've got to be within two hours of the airport at all times and you've got to deploy for two weeks. And you know, the whole first day is just setting up a hospital. I'm like, that sounds exciting. Young and I had to listen. I was like, that'd be cool. I'll go to the hospital.
00:39:17
Speaker
But then you're just taking care of patients. I mean, you're not doing anything more exciting than that. But I just yeah, I these that situation with the two that the one that just happened to again, like the reading about the one and it was somewhere in America that happened. I was just like, I don't know. I think I would just be like, OK, I don't need this job. Yeah, you know, we're like the underwater cave stuff. Oh, no. That's a whole nother level of you committed suicide.
00:39:47
Speaker
If you survived it, awesome for you. But no, I'm not going after you. Especially the ones that they like. Oh, yeah. You got to take the tank out of your B.C. and slide that in front of you and it. No. Yeah. There's the one. I don't know where it is. I think it's in the Caribbean. They actually put a sign up that said like, hey, everybody who goes in this hole dies. Yeah. So stop going in the hole. Yeah. And they're the ones that like. Oh, you can go through it.
00:40:13
Speaker
in this like two hour window each day because of the way the current is, but otherwise, yeah, it's nothing but death. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're not. Or the maniacs that, you know, hold their breath and go through those under our caves. Oh, the freedivers? Yeah. Yeah. Those people are insanity. Yeah. I can hold my breath real long. That's great, Scooter.
00:40:38
Speaker
Well, look, but how deep I got. Awesome scooter. Yeah. You know what? You could do the same thing your bathtub. Yeah. Yeah. You can get in your swimming pool and there's a lifeguard right there. Yeah. I hold my breath. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's those specialty rescues. I'm with you. No, no. I feel like if that's your thing, you really like I'm sure those cave rescue guys are like, we have been training for this for 10 years. This is the best thing that's ever happened to us.
00:41:07
Speaker
You know, but thank God they're there. Yeah, but yeah. But I just think of the poor bastard who first got there. Yeah. Somebody, some guy or gal just showed up on this call because this woman is screaming bloody murder. And they were like, and she's like, my boyfriend's 16 hours down these caves. Come help him.
00:41:27
Speaker
I get off in about an hour. I mean, look, there's this cat we can send down there. I'll keep him company. Do you know how to start an IV? I'll just give you a bag. Look, I'll let you practice on me a couple times. I don't know that I would do it.
00:41:50
Speaker
But then the dumb part of me knows like, I would still try. Yeah. The dumb part of me is like, Oh my God, we could do it. We got this. We don't need any help. Donnie, get down there. Donnie, you got, you got long arms kind of skinny. Get in there. Yeah. That's the other thing. When they size you up for the team and they're like, how skinny can you get? Well, this is it.
00:42:16
Speaker
I've been working on this for a long time. You pop up like a blow toad and you're like, oh, no. Do we get scarier than this? Well, that's like even take that part out of it, just like the water rescue part. Like I know we're going to have all this flooding and things and there will be a thing, you know, all that kind of stuff. And the guy was like, yeah, you know, they talk about these water rescues and everything. He's like, you aren't going into water.
00:42:45
Speaker
And people are like, what do you mean? And I was like, yeah, it's sewage. He's like, exactly. You're going into poop. It's poop. It's poop and oil. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said one guy on his team, like almost lost his leg because he got a cut through his dry suit and got like three different gram resistant bacteria or something crazy. God. Yeah. Yeah. I remember after Katrina, I was still working for a hazmat company.
00:43:15
Speaker
And they had called me, they're like, hey, we need to start sending people down to Louisiana. I was like, okay, well, I still got to work at Salisbury. So I'm not going. I'm like, well, we really need people to go down there for like two days and just test the water. I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, like there's a lot of oil that got loose and they need to figure out where the oil is. It got loose like it was in a pen.
00:43:41
Speaker
It actually kind of you guys don't ship your oil What happened was apparently it was it was like all this water that was in oil that was in like retaining Walls, but when the water flooded there would just literally get everywhere, huh? And there was just what there was like hazardous materials everywhere. I was like, yeah, it doesn't sound great No, no, no idiots are in fan boats like jumping into hazardous materials water Did Talbot send its fan boat
00:44:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be, we'll probably, it's not going to happen this week. I don't, I don't think, but you know, Salisbury, when it floods, it gets crazy. Oh yeah. People then are like, come help me. Are you on fire? Now you're in covered in water? Nah, we're, that's the opposite of us. You need to call the water department. You need the water department? Yeah.
00:44:39
Speaker
fire department. Somebody called the station the other day. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about, except the people calling us for crazy. She's like, my bathtub's leaking. It's like, okay. And she's like, well, I called the water department, but they're not, they don't answer until Monday. I said, well, I guess you should probably wait till Monday. Or you should call a plumber. Or call up and she's like, well, plumber was going to charge me money. I'm like, yes, that's, that's
00:45:06
Speaker
It's your house on fire. You're asking them for a service. Of course. Yeah, I should call the volunteer plumbers. She was, she was literally calls the fire department because she's like, well, I hear you guys do this. I'm like, well, I hear you guys do this. We're not plumbers. Oh yeah. Sorry, ma'am. Our bathtub units actually on a call right now. Yeah. Oh,
00:45:32
Speaker
So being the nice person I am, we loaded up one out there and it was literally water dripping into the drain of her, of her bathtub. And she's like, I was like, we'll just let it keep dripping until you get the plumber out here. Yeah, but my brain feels bad.
Fire Department Misconceptions
00:45:47
Speaker
I was like, lady, this is not us.
00:45:51
Speaker
Oh yeah. We'll hook the hose up and blow out your drain field. And we've, we've, we've done this to ourselves. Oh yeah. Cause we don't say no. Cause we don't say no. And people call and say, Oh, you guys, uh, unlock cars, right? Nope. That's Papa lock. Yeah. Uh, you guys, uh, you'll let me get in my house. Nope. That's your landlord. Yeah. Stop calling us. Yeah. Are you on fire? Yes. No.
00:46:18
Speaker
Because you got the fire department. Yeah, we're fire type Pokemon. Let's talk about, you know, the whole call the water department. I was. I think it was in an ICS class I was in and it was a flooded situation or whatever, and someone in the class said, well, why don't you just open up the manhole covers and all the water will flow away?
00:46:43
Speaker
And we all turned and looked at this person like, how dumb are you? It's not just a cork that, you know, works. Did you think that the sewers were waterproof until you opened up the covers? Evidently. That's what this person thought. Yeah. I was just like, Oh my God, I hope you don't work for anybody near us. Yeah. Yeah. ICS classes with interdisciplinary classes are amazing. I took an ICS class and I can't remember what our scenario was, but they had this like,
00:47:12
Speaker
group was from the college and they were all college students. And like every other group is done. And we're like,
00:47:22
Speaker
Because this is the last thing you got to do for ICS 400. You got to do this stupid project. Oh, yes. Run a scenario. Yeah. And every other group has done it. We're all just sitting there with our arms crossed. And my group is firemen and cops. So we did all the fire and cop crap. And then the other group was like an EMS group. And it was all people who worked in the field. And then the one group's like Dell Dot. So they're like, oh, yeah, we got
00:47:45
Speaker
plows on the way or something, you know, whatever they're doing. And this group from the college is like, okay, now we're going to set up a command board. And we're like, it's like 40 minutes into this and the instructor is like, what have you guys done? Oh, we're still setting up a committee to talk about what we're going to do. And we were like, it was, it was very eye-opening because these are, these are all people who are
00:48:09
Speaker
trying to become emergency managers for a living and I'm like, oh boy, this is a problem. But here's what I'll tell you folks, if you get lost in the cave, don't call me. I'm not going to get you. If your dog gets lost in the cave, now I might help you. Yeah. Cat gets lost in the cave. Yeah, it depends. Cats are liquid. They can get out of everything.
00:48:38
Speaker
It's a liquid. But yeah, it's yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. You throw the dog into the mix. It's like, oh, gosh, I will move heaven and earth. Yeah. Yeah. Dog didn't have a choice in the matter. Yeah. Or didn't reason his way into it. Yeah. You made a choice to go in that hole. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I don't know. Maybe there's a special squeaky ball down there. It could be. Could be.
00:49:07
Speaker
Was that a side tangent to that? Oh, side tangent. Squeaky ball? In Bulger's Gate. I found the squeaky ball or the dog in the camp brought me the squeaky ball. Mm hmm. Yeah, I found another one. Found another dog or another squeaky ball? Another squeaky ball. Oh. Just out in the wild somewhere. I think it was in the underdark. I was like, I will bring this back. And the same thing. You throw it and he gets it. And I have two squeaky balls. I somehow missed the dog.
00:49:37
Speaker
No. Mm hmm. And I have an option that you can like summon him when you're like out and about. Uh huh. I don't want to. He a good boy. I don't want to bring him out. Right. I found a dog collar. Oh, I found the dog. Oh, I held that dog collar for like. Well, 90 hours. Oh, I found the dog. Well, hopefully this play through you will. Yeah. Some mistakes were made. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:04
Speaker
That's when, when I finally finish it, we can go through all the mistakes. It's a lot, a lot were made by me. That's why I don't want to like influence you, let you make your own mistakes. Oh yeah. I make plenty of them. Well, on the topic too. Sure.
00:50:24
Speaker
Topic two, one thing. Happy equinox. Last night was the equinox. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's now officially fall. Yes. My wife can finally put out her Halloween decorations. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I heard a, let's listen to a podcast the other day and they were talking about. There's a, I guess a service in, I'm sure there are other places, but they were in the Bay area in San Francisco.
00:50:54
Speaker
And they were talking it was going to cost this person like two thousand dollars to hire a landscaper to take care of like they have some kind of invasive vines out there or something on the kazoo or what. But instead, this company will loan or rent you goats. And they put up like an invisible fence. They leave the goats there for like a week and pick them back up because the goats
Eco-Friendly Landscaping Solutions
00:51:23
Speaker
are they love to eat this vine? And it's like. What they say, it was like $100 for the it was 100. Yeah, it was four goats, $100 a day for four days or something. I was like, that's that's so much cheaper. Yeah. It's like, should we look at animal husbandry more for stuff like that? Like you and I.
00:51:51
Speaker
No, no, no, I'm just saying in general. I mean, oh, yeah, of course. Use the goats or use use the goats. It's like it's the, you know, smart farmers that use goats to like keep their grass down. Yeah. Just put them in an area and you just let them go. And yeah, we we were talking about that. Who was I talking to? Because I want to turn my side garden into a pollinator area. Yeah.
00:52:15
Speaker
I don't really like using Roundup because it's not great for things. It's not great water. I mean, there's a lot of problems with you.
00:52:23
Speaker
But we've gotten to the world where we just use it on stuff. But if I had something to eat all that stuff up, I'd be happy to let a goat just go in there and clear it out for me so that I can be friendly playing it soon. But then what do you do for the rest of the time with a goat? Or you just run a goat? Yeah, just run a goat. I don't want a goat. I don't want a goat. It seems like a lot of work. And eat everything. Yeah.
00:52:50
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But no, like we we have totally screwed up our ecosystem by getting away from stuff like that, I think. Yeah. Well, and also because we lick the goats and everything, they they fertilize and. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you watched Clarkson's farm on Amazon, but they had this had these chicken coops where the chicken coops moved. Huh? So like they would
00:53:18
Speaker
they would put out a little mesh fence for the chickens. And they would let the chickens out for a couple of days. And then they'd put the chickens back in the coop. And then they'd move the coop and put the fence out. So they would eat the grubs and fertilize the grass. And then they'd just move it around. I'm not sure. It's much more labor intensive than just spreading fertilizer, but how much better for the environment is it than spreading poisonous chemicals into the water? Oh, yeah.
00:53:49
Speaker
Yeah, stuff like that's fascinating to me. Yeah, I think. Yeah. I mean, I know we would do I mean, not like to that amount, but I know like in like this time of year when they start harvesting corn and things like that, that, you know, mice would inevitably end up in your house because they're coming from the fields and everything and.
00:54:13
Speaker
we would get them in the attic and we would take one of the barn cats and put her up there and just let her wreak havoc for a couple of days. And then we had no mice upstairs. Yeah, traditional answer to the problem. That's what cats are for, right? They're mousers. Yeah, I think that stuff's awesome. It was actually Maryland.
00:54:39
Speaker
that a couple sued their HOA because the HOA wouldn't allow them to have a bee pollinating on. Really? And they won. So Maryland law has changed recently that says they can't stop you from having a environmentally friendly lawn. Good. Because grass is useless. Yes. It doesn't even look great. It depends.
00:55:08
Speaker
It doesn't look naturally great.
Conservation & Development Concerns
00:55:12
Speaker
What you're really admiring is, oh, I really like the fact that they keep it trimmed square, but that's supposed to be square. It's not supposed to have lines in it. It's not good for anything. Just tear it all up and put down an astro turf. Sure.
00:55:30
Speaker
put pollinators out so the bees have places. We tore down all these. I saw this thing in Sussex County they're fighting right now. Sussex County is the only county in Delaware that has the least strict conservation rules. Really? So they've lost hundreds of thousands of square feet of marshland and forests in the last year because of all this development. So now they're finally pushing back saying,
00:55:59
Speaker
You can't just keep stripping. We need trees. If you don't have trees, you're not going to have a county because the wind is just going to take everything away. You would say, laugh and say, yeah, it's dumb. But it's true. The dust bowl in Kansas and the Midwest was because we stripped all the trees away and just let it get eroded. We didn't
00:56:25
Speaker
We learned that lesson 100 years ago, but we have to relearn it because the developers are greedy. Oh, yeah. Well, it's just like down at the beach where they have to constantly pump sand back onto the beach. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to tell you something. It's a barrier island. It's supposed to go through its natural degradation and reclamation. Maybe it was a real bad plan to build a city on a barrier. Yeah.
00:56:48
Speaker
Maybe that ended up being a real bad plane. Yeah. My favorite notion city is literally my favorite place in America because like, well, we used to not have an inlet, but we have an inlet now and I don't think that could happen again. Yeah. Cause you know, the hurricane came through and apparently like they were super happy when it happened. Oh yeah.
00:57:15
Speaker
because they used to have to like overland their stuff. Yeah. But yeah, you're on a barrier island. Yeah. You're literally on a sandbar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You built your town on something that is to be a barrier to waves. Right. OK. Yeah. Well, it's like Assateague. I feel bad for the people who enjoy Assateague, but like the natural life cycle of Assateague is that
00:57:45
Speaker
It's going to move. Oh, yeah. And by us fighting it, what are we doing? Right to that cycle. Exactly. You know, this is why the phonies get angry and attack. That's why the police get angry. Yeah, so there's the oldest lighthouse in America is in Jersey. OK. And it was originally 500 feet off of the water.
00:58:10
Speaker
And in the 200 and some odd years, 300 years at this point, it's now a mile and a half off the water. Wow. Just because of the natural progression of erosion and sand deposits. It's kind of cool to me that it's like, wow, that doesn't seem that long to gain a mile of land. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.
00:58:36
Speaker
But like by stopping Assateague, are you keeping that erosion from happening in places it's supposed to happen? Right. Yeah. I'm sorry, objective. Again, you build a town on a barrier island. I can't even pronounce your city right.
00:58:54
Speaker
Can you pronounce their name of their town right? It's Chincoteague. It's Chincoteague. I don't have a shin. I have a chin. Yes. Chincoteague. Yeah. I think all of the natural ways to do it. All these problems, we had solutions for them for millions of years. Yeah.
00:59:20
Speaker
made chemicals to do them and now going, wait a second, these chemicals are real bad. It's because people want the quick and easy route. Yeah. Yeah. It's super easy to spray round up, but it's more annoying to, you know, so that Salisbury has a feral cat problem.
Feral Cats & Urban Wildlife Interactions
00:59:36
Speaker
Sure. Do we bring in? What do we bring in for that? Foxes? Leopards. Let's let the Jaguar lose from the zoo for a little while.
00:59:51
Speaker
What eats cats? Wolves? Do wolves eat cats? Coyotes? I don't know. Maybe coyotes. I mean, it seems like there's a feral cat problem. They just canceled the folk fest for today. Oh. Good for them. Good for them. Well, let's see. What eats cats in the wild?
01:00:19
Speaker
The coyotes, eagles, owls, raccoons. I've never seen a raccoon eat a cat. Cows and otters. Otters? Yeah. Man, we'd be the cutest town in the world. We'd let otters loose. Oh my God. The feral cats are bad, but we've got otters playing everywhere now. And raccoons. And raccoons, but they got the little hands.
01:00:44
Speaker
Do you think like the raccoons are like the, you know, the overseers since they do have the people hands? Yeah. Do you think the other animals look up to them? Of course they do. They got a mask of authority. Yeah. They've got a mask and they're like, look, I can pick this up. I have an opposable thumb. Yeah. Teach them how to work a car keys and they can drive. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I can wash things. They do. They wash. You ever seen anyone, they wash cotton candy. Oh, it's so sad. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, no, it's the feral cat problem.
01:01:14
Speaker
That's a side tangent because I have a we have a feral cat problem in my neighborhood too. And nobody takes care of them. Oh, yeah. You know, like my neighbor has started to spay them. OK, but like she has to catch them. Oh, yeah. And get spayed. And I think she's paying for it out of her own pocket. Yeah, I just bless her. But right. Yeah, you know, instead you should offer to buy an otter. I should get it. We should get an otter. Oh, my gosh.
01:01:43
Speaker
Or a sack full of rocks, which of the two? Or Eagle, you could you could learn falconry. I could learn is it falconry if it's an eagle, you agree with you? It's not you agree with it. Oh, gosh, but no, I think so. Jeez, I want to honor. I mean, it's like the Florida boat is a problem, like they have all these structures of pythons that are loose and the Everglades killing everything.
01:02:13
Speaker
Cats are the same thing. They're killing all the birds. Cats kill more birds. They're like extinction of animals for birds. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. They still call it falconry. But yeah, they say the golden eagle is the best. It's very sharp. Get a gir falcon. Have you ever seen one of those? The green face.
01:02:40
Speaker
No, I'm trying to get like a how big a gear falcon is. They're pretty big. Gear falcon. Let's see. Come on, this is a size that is brought to you by Bing. Yes. The largest falcon in the world.
01:03:08
Speaker
48 to 61 inch wingspan. Well, that's pretty big or just scary. Yeah. Yeah. Especially when they get big like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like what they said, the shoe bills or whatever. Oh, the spoon bills or spoons. Oh, God. That's a thing of nightmares. Yeah. They're big birds, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Given that's a worry. That's a worry. Oh, yeah. No, no. Yeah. That's the thing. They're like, look, you got a cat problem. You can either get a raccoon, an otter,
01:03:38
Speaker
or an eagle. It's going to be the raccoon or the otter. Probably the otter. I'm going with otter. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the raccoon is cool. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess the cassowary probably take care of your cat problem. I'm sure. But yeah, then you got a giant. What do you do for the cassowary? You get a tiger. But then you have another cat problem. Then yeah. Yeah. Then you have a bigger cat problem. And I don't think there. I mean, maybe a pack of otters could take down a tiger.
01:04:07
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And the castaway is a dinosaurs. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Literally dinosaurs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then maybe you get a hippopotamus to take care of the tiger. No, hippopotamus is scary, too. Yeah. They kill a lot of people. Yeah. Well, and people don't realize, you know, like, oh, yeah, they're just fat. No, they have like an inch of fatty tissue. And under that, they are pure steel muscle. Yeah. They are just aquatic animal tanks.
01:04:38
Speaker
Don't ask for typos. No. No. It's just a rhino without the horn. Yeah. Yeah. It's those bite times. And they can move deceptively fast in the water. Very fast. And they get addicted to cocaine. What? Yeah. I know that. Yeah. Who was... No, no, no.
01:05:03
Speaker
One of the drug lords had his own hippos down in Columbia. Now the hippos are like loose in Columbia. Yeah. I'm here cooking bear, not cooking hippo. Cooking cassowary. Oof. No. Yeah. I'm going to go buy an otter today. Yeah. Take care of my cat problem. You got a guy for your otter. Like, I mean,
01:05:33
Speaker
Yeah, there's that side of it. But then what happens? So let's say there's this. Yeah, we've got this hurricane coming through. Say it wipes out pets more. Could we have could there be like the potential for a feral hamster population? Hmm. Because they're not. I mean, they're a little domesticated critters, but I mean, are they not hamsters in the wild?
01:06:02
Speaker
Uh, I mean, somewhere, right? Giddybakes, definitely. Right? They gotta be ready. They're wild somewhere. That's what the cats, where is he? That's what the cats are. Yeah. Yeah. People go out and buy an otter. Buy an otter. Get rid of your feral cat problem. Yeah. Yeah.
Farm Practices & Animal Safety
01:06:32
Speaker
Yeah, as soon as our neighborhood, if we get a couple of extra stray cats by an otter, but they're all over the place in my freaking house. It's crazy. They sleep under my car. Really? I feel like I'm going to turn my car on one day and just going to wow. Oh, God, that's awful. We used to do it at the farm all the time. When you before you start anything, you would knock on the hood and the fender.
01:06:54
Speaker
to try and wake them up. But yeah, there are still sometimes when we get cut because it's warm when you park it. So they curl up there and get all warm. And then, yeah, you start it up and they get caught the fan belt. But then it just burns off slowly. You can't get it out of there. I mean, you get the most of the corpse out of there, but you still got like skin and fur and things about.
01:07:21
Speaker
OK, yeah, yeah, terrible. Send a send a raccoon up there. Yeah, or an otter or an otter. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a good place to end. Yeah, I mean, it went dark. Yeah. Loose cat skin. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:46
Speaker
Well folks, uh, try to stay dry during this tropical storm. Yeah. Yeah. And then everybody weeks of rain it's bringing. Yeah. Makes out all right. Yeah. And, uh, let's see all this rain. Perfect for an otter. Perfect for an otter. Yeah. Speed out there running around. Take care of yourselves folks. Folks have a good one.