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Stranger Things S1E2: Into the Basement
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Could kids really hide a telekinetic girl in the basement? We dive into that, Nancy and Barb’s Tuesday night party drama, Jonathan and his camera..., and Joyce’s paranormal encounter with the lights. From secret hideouts to supernatural chaos, we unpack it all!
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Transcript
Introduction and Corrections
00:00:00
Speaker
All right, everybody, here we are, episode two of the Stranger Things series. I wasn't supposed to say um as much. yeah That was the feedback. And this isn't called the Stranger Things series. What's it called?
00:00:19
Speaker
Oh, sorry. maybe Maybe we run that back real quick.
00:00:37
Speaker
Hey, how's it going, everyone? Welcome to episodes unscripted. This is the Stranger Things series, the second episode.
Meet the Hosts
00:00:44
Speaker
I am joined by Charlie Harkim and Shawna Fretwell and I'm Scott Felts. So we're just going to dive right into it. Yeah, everybody's got their notes up and bring it. Let's do it. um Yeah, it looks so nice and cozy there. How is it? I mean, it looks like You know, it's must be nice to be in a nice studio like that and not like in your parents basement with your old racing fire suit hanging behind you. It's a little bit lonely not having you alongside here. It's like, oh, oh, he's on the camera. He's in his parents' basement. There he is again. I bet you couldn't get up and run to grab something because you said you're tucked in to the corner. If an emergency happens right now,
00:01:34
Speaker
I'm not gonna be saving the day. You're just gonna be stuck there. I could not get out if I tried. So. That's brilliant. Anyway, I diverged this.
Episode Recap: Stranger Things Ep. 2
00:01:47
Speaker
um Okay, so episode two. Basically, what what happened? Little recap.
00:01:56
Speaker
Eleven went to Mike's house. They found her in the woods at the end of episode one. They bring her back, put her in the basement, hide her. Uh, what else? name and this episode but She gets her. Well, yeah. Yeah, because they they name her Elle.
00:02:13
Speaker
Hider, hider in the debate. it's ah so I'm like, come on, parents. I don't think my kids could hide somebody in my house without me knowing. Let me wait let me get the recap first and then we'll dive into it. Okay, so then we go to Mike. No, not Mike. Hop.
00:02:35
Speaker
Talks to Joyce again. Still haven't found anything. He goes to Lonnie's. Lonnie didn't have anything. Jonathan goes to Lonnie's. Interaction there. Still nothing. Joyce buys a phone. Will calls again. And the phone blows up. Then she has the crazy moment with the lights.
00:02:59
Speaker
and And... ah the The boys don't tell about Eleven yet. But Eleven definitely knows where our Will is. And we wrap it all up with Jonathan spying on the party. o And Barb goes, shh, gone. So, that's where we're at. That's where we end episode two. Barb disappears at the pool. But let's jump back to taking in a stray child.
00:03:31
Speaker
and put her in the basement. Where's your hair? You have cancer? Did he run away? Are you in some kind of trouble? And then they freak out because at one point she starts to change her clothes or something in the basement and they all lose their mind. And I'm thinking, he's like, she, I don't know how y'all know he's a girl. I don't know. I remember the first time through this series, the first.
00:03:59
Speaker
two episodes in particular. I think I watched it by myself. ah I didn't know if it was a boy or girl. And I'm like, they're calling in a girl and we're going to suddenly find out no, it's not even a girl. It's really a boy. Anyway, I won't bring it up anymore because I now we for sure it's a girl. But we've confirmed. Yeah. So go back to though what you were saying before about the fact that they put her in the basement and no one finds her a human child in the
80s Parenting and Hiding Secrets
00:04:26
Speaker
basement. Yeah. Having breakfast. She's been down there all night. Are we not going to the basement for anything at any point? Right. And
00:04:34
Speaker
Yeah, I just I don't think how are do they how old are they? 11 12 11 12. I don't think they could pull that off We should tell your mom. I second that who's crazy now. How was that crazy? Not with those. I mean, I guess maybe we've already talked though. I mean their parents are a little bit this was the 80 oddballs Yeah, the basement was the hangout. I mean I Well, maybe that's why the parents don't go down there because the kids hang out down there and they're like, no, that's there. Well, but they still have to go down there for some surely laundry. ah Definitely the laundry room is down there. Definitely the laundry room is down there. So the husband's definitely going to be going down there. Yeah. I mean, I agree. There's no way that they don't.
00:05:18
Speaker
That's super proactive, very interesting. Wow, that was a great comment. That'll win you some brownie points. Obviously, obviously. Yeah, I don't know. He's a quiet child. Eleven is a quiet child. It's not like she's your average kid down there. Sure. She knew how to hide. Yeah, but i just don't I'm just not buying it. When they're sitting at the table and I'm thinking, no one's gone to the basement?
00:05:43
Speaker
Parents just don't always go to the basement. They didn't hear anything. One other thing that I think at some point in there, Mike, before they were like, oh, we're just going to hide you. And then he says, hey, we're going to let you go outside and come back through and just show up at the front door. My mom will be like, oh, and she'll know what to do. And they all was like, no. In the morning, she sneaks around my house, goes to the front door
Communication Challenges with Eleven
00:06:09
Speaker
and rings my doorbell. My mom will answer and know exactly what to do.
00:06:12
Speaker
i Yeah, I can't remember if we're gonna figure out like why she's I guess she's just not trusting well adults because she does Yeah, cuz the last guy got shot that called somebody up. He's like, hey, I found this child. And he got shot. Right, because the parents could be entangled with law enforcement and everyone else. My argument, though, there is she obviously can understand, like, she has a broad enough vocabulary to understand what people are saying. Why are we not talking? Yes. You can say if you were. That drives me crazy. He's traumatized. No, I'm not buying that. She's traumatized. Because she does this really dramatic, you know, like, is someone coming after you? Bad.
00:06:52
Speaker
Like, whoa, wait, wait, you can just say- But she comprehends all of it. Yeah, she's like, do you understand? And I'm thinking, you can just say, no, don't call anyone, they're gonna come and shoot you. But no, we bad.
00:07:05
Speaker
The point of finger gun. But I'll say the most authentic reaction of anything yet that we've seen is Mike's reaction to when he's like, what's your name? And she shows him her tattoo and he's like, is that real? Yeah, authentic reaction a kid would have to another kid having a tattoo. Is that real? but Oh, my God, that's crazy. I've just never seen a kid have a tattoo.
00:07:34
Speaker
Sorry. one One weird thing that happened was one of these annoying little, you would never talk like that, or I just didn't like it. I think it was before actually Mike had hidden her, but they were showing Hopper and all the sheriff folks, and you know they're still out in the woods searching. Yeah. Somebody runs up, or either he goes and talks to Joyce at one point, and yeah, it was Joyce. He's like, Joyce, we've been searching all night. And she goes, and?
00:08:03
Speaker
It bothers me because if he had found her or something, I guess she was just saying, and like, did you find anything? And I'm thinking of an update. You know, she would have totally he would have told you like, right. I have that problem. It was just a dramatic like, oh, we're trying to build drama. No. Well, if we already know in general. Right. I well, I feel like I get called out a lot about it. You guys were just calling me out about something where I'm like, I don't need to answer the obvious.
00:08:32
Speaker
Hey, we've been looking for your son all night. And? Obviously, we didn't find him or I would open with that. There's an update beyond whether you found him or you didn't. Did you find a clue? Do you have a direction you're going? in Yeah, you had as I was saying it out loud, I was like, maybe maybe it could have been just ah and what's the latest? I felt like though I felt like she was saying and did you find him? Also, she's yeah, we did. It's just a trick. I just wanted you to ask.
00:08:59
Speaker
one here yes i don't um I don't like the whole... And I don't know if we really know yet. I can't remember if we know. I guess we picked up on the fact that his daughter is not around.
00:09:14
Speaker
whether, you know, he's just not involved or she's dead. But the whole clap back, surely joy Joyce knows the situation with him and his daughter, but the whole like, you know, she's like, it's my son's breathing. I know his breathing. Wouldn't you know your daughter's? I don't know my own son's breathing. Wouldn't you know your own daughter's? Oh, oh, that cuts a little deep, especially if you know the situation. Yeah.
00:09:41
Speaker
I don't think she meant it maliciously. Because that's definitely a gut punch line to throw, but I don't think she meant it maliciously. I think she was desperately trying to get him to understand and believe her. Yeah. I don't think she was coming for his throat. I really don't. I think she's just, again, super frantic. I think she was, because I think she's sitting there like, again, I mean, if if my mom's dead and i'm and and you throw some line about there, like wouldn't you be able to you know tell if that was your mom?
00:10:10
Speaker
My mom's dead, and you know that. That's a little bit sensitive. Right, and they're about to be in the same boat, because at this point, we're starting to believe Will might be, too. Well, everyone else is, not her. She's desperate. She needs somebody to believe her, and she needs someone else. I don't doubt the reason she said it was because it was such a... I just thought, man, that's cold. What's all the joys hate, Scott? It's a grieving mom. Sometimes I like to think about, like,
00:10:36
Speaker
and What were the writers thinking when they threw a line in there like that? I felt like it was just a great opportunity to, let's double down on, there's something going on with Hopper's daughter. yeah So let's make it real dramatic at Joyce's disposal. That's my favorite. Yeah, cause he played that really well. Like, ooh, all right. You know what?
Authentic 80s Portrayal
00:10:57
Speaker
You cut me deep. I'm walking away. Cut me real deep. Was he mad? I don't remember. it Was he mad or just taking a picture? He walked away like really like,
00:11:04
Speaker
Okay, so for us to think oh man something really so bad happened to his daughter Right. There's a situation not around anymore Um real quick. Yeah, I just want to also double down on I mean this whole thing they nailed the 80s like it's not even just uh You know when you see a movie that they're like, oh said in a certain time period not like westerns, but like the 60s. And so you see a car or something or you see certain things. Man, everything in this is 80s, 80s, 80s. Like it's not just subtle references. It just, right the background, the scenery, like it's everything. A lot of effort. The color schemes. Yeah, the colors. I think that was when the show first came out, I think that was some of the most positive feedback they received was like, oh my gosh, the nostalgia is so heavy here for anybody who remembers the 80s.
00:11:59
Speaker
Yeah, the Browns and the... Yeah, it was all those little touches and all the... Yeah, very much so. Right, Scott? Yeah, totally. I complete i couldn't have said it any better myself, remember, in the 80s. But even the basement life, so 80s. Yeah. Being able to just do stuff and your parents may not know for like a week. It was the 80s. Yeah, I agree with you guys so much. One other thing about the 80s, this is a note. I'm not just going off on the 80s.
00:12:30
Speaker
I guess back then it wasn't as big of a deal, but when kids don't show up to school, certainly nowadays, like somebody's calling you. Somebody's gonna say, hey, Charlie, did you know, like, such and such didn't show up. Right. You get automated calls when your kid misses one class period. Right. And for the 80s, it wasn't. It wasn't, but I feel like
00:12:58
Speaker
It wasn't, obviously, you couldn't get somebody as quick and say, hey, let me call you on your cell, and hey, your daughter's not at school today. But somebody eventually was gonna. And I was just thinking, Mike.
00:13:11
Speaker
I mean, obviously will, but Mike didn't go to school. I don't remember. I guess it was just one day, but it just stuck in my mind. Like he doesn't seem to think that somebody's not going to immediately call his mom or his dad. And they'll be like, Mike didn't come to school. I mean, when you, you skipped school a lot when you were a kid, what was not right one day my parents were out of town for something. Nice. This was high school though. And I think I was sick or something. Nice. And I remember they got called wherever they were, I don't know, or they called my sister or something. And that was mid late nineties. How soon in the morning? I can't remember. here But I remember thinking it's not a big deal. Like I'm sick. I guess at that point I didn't even realize old parents normally call the school and say, Hey, my son's not coming to school today.
00:14:10
Speaker
See, I had a whole system down, because we had Mrs. Strada. She was like, When you skipped? Yes. Nice. So I would skip class, but they're going to call you usually in the evening. So I'd pick up and pretend to be my mom. Nice. What? Wow. Two different personalities here. Wow. System going. I would never be so bold as to do something like that.
00:14:31
Speaker
Did you say Miss Estrada? Who did you say? Miss Estrada. She was like the school mom. I like the way you named her as if we knew who that is. I had Miss Estrada. So it was obviously. Y'all know who she is. Of course. No, for sure. That's Andre's wife.
00:14:51
Speaker
You're welcome. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to circle us back here. Uh, so in the hallway, they're at school before the bell rings and Steve's telling Nancy and Barbara about the party. Hey, we're coming over to my place but and they see, and they see Jonathan and they're like, Oh, look at this dork. Oh, like picking on him.
00:15:12
Speaker
You know and then of course nancy does goes over there I have an issue with the fact that jonathan can be a dork and he definitely is and we find that out Not a door just weird. Just like uh, wow bold words. Not really maybe not dork, but like He's unique for sure and a positive confirms that positive. Well later on he's a little too unique But, at this point, right, we don't know that he's spying on him and taking photos. He's just being Jonathan, and he's kind of an outcast. I don't understand why Jonathan is bullied, and I'm gonna say it, and Barb isn't.
00:15:51
Speaker
Oh, so you can go through gold foil, they become a space. At the same time, Barb is a level of confidence. She wasn't like an insecure person and that'll put a target on your back. Whereas Jonathan, his body language, he comes across more like a target.
00:16:09
Speaker
Okay, maybe I just think my beef, though, is the fact that they're so like, okay, he's a loser. His brother's lost? What an idiot. And Barb rolls up looking and acting the way she does and they're like, nobody has anything to say. There's never a moment of like, you know, when Barb's not looking and they're like, Barb, really? Gonna throw shade at Barb. Back on the Twinkies Barb. Is that what you're trying to say? I'm not calling her fat. I mean, you're just saying That's... she's fat and ugly. Is that what you're saying? No, again, she's not that fat. What's wrong with her then? You're gonna throw shade at her though because Steve's trying to run game on needs. He's a gender. You don't like her. She's a gender. And you did nice and big glasses.
00:16:51
Speaker
That was an 80s thing. That was an 80s thing. You know, it just, the the capris, it just, it was a weird look. Wow, I didn't pick up on the i didn't see wardrobe too. Man, you were a bully, weren't you? Oh my gosh, I was just interested in that. That's normally what it is too.
Lucas' Rational Dilemma
00:17:10
Speaker
Right. there's a There's an attractiveness there. Like you're attracted, but you're like, wait a minute, I'm not supposed to like that kind of person. So I'm a bullion.
00:17:19
Speaker
Man, we're learning a lot about you. Yeah. I was hanging out with Steve and I'm like, Steve, you don't want to bully her. You don't want to. Yeah. Okay. Not cool. Whatever. Um, Jonathan definitely has some kind of, again, I can't remember things we might eventually learn, but Jonathan has a significant limp, right? Limp. He's got a weird, when he walks out of that, yeah, it's a,
00:17:45
Speaker
He kind of looks like he's dragging his, but he's got a drag on one of his feet too. It's very obvious in one of the scenes when he walks out the front of the house. Yeah, you should go back and check it out because it's almost like a he's got physical problems too. What are you doing? What are you doing? all I was going to look it up. No, don't go shit Google because we might find out later. That's fair.
00:18:10
Speaker
yeah i can't it than naval li onm <unk> literally The one scene where he walks out the front of house and somebody just pulled up I don't remember who it was um It's it's it's very dramatic like he's dragging his foot You know, like he's he's got Jonathan's life is it against him. Yeah, I think that's part of why he's an outcast and gets picked on. He's a tough life. He's from the wrong side of the tracks, you know, single mom. Those were the kinds of people I befriended, by the way, Scott. Yeah, no, that's cool. I don't know. Hey, Jonathan, I think he's just a little misunderstood.
00:18:51
Speaker
i Honestly, I can't really figure out why they bully him other than he just acts a lot different. Yeah, yeah. ah that's ah That's a slippery slope. um i I don't like that Lucas is kind of punished for being the only rational one when they're in Mike's room and Eleven's sitting on the bed and and Mike's like, she knows where, she knows where she pointed to him and Lucas is like, no, we're telling your mom. This is a human? she No, we're telling your mom. I'm going to tell your mom.
00:19:25
Speaker
And they're all like, no, no, she's we have to, you know, friends keep secrets. And then she like slams the door on Lucas and they're all and I'm just like, that's rational. That's the only kid here that's thinking like a kid. There is a child in your room, Mike, and we don't know what to do. And we're not just going to go off the idea of, oh, bad people are after she said one word bad. Right. We're just supposed to assume. No, I'm not doing it. Telling the cops. No.
00:19:55
Speaker
I can appreciate that. No, no, no. We're going back to plan eight. We're telling your mom. There was a, there was a period of time in there too. I think right when he, Mike was first Heidner where the, the mood kind of lightened a little bit and it was like, Oh, okay. We're gonna, this is going to be okay. We're friends. And, and I remember thinking, man,
00:20:22
Speaker
Will is still missing. like It's still a big deal, but there was a five or 10 minute stretch there in that episode where it felt like, oh, okay, we don't and we we still care that Will's missing, right? like This is a big deal. and We've got other stuff to do. I have other responsibilities in looking for your kid, all right? Listen, Flo was just telling me the garden homes are gone again. At some point, I gotta dig into that. That's right. I mean, listen, Joyce.
00:20:50
Speaker
Go buy a new phone, I don't know what to tell you. It was a rough storm. At some point in there too, I don't remember when it was, we had a classic cliche, you gotta see this. Flo was telling Hopper about something and she's like... Oh yeah, she's like, you should probably get over there. Oh, and just tell me what was said. Yeah, just tell me before I get there, I might need to prep or what's going on. I think you need to get over there, Hop. Hey Chief, we got a call from over at Benny. I think you need to get there right away.
00:21:15
Speaker
I guess things wouldn't be as like dramatic TV shows wouldn't be what they are if you just talk like normal, right? I guess not. Also, who are we to say? I mean, it's a ah kid's gone missing in a small town. This guy has apparently shot himself.
00:21:32
Speaker
I mean, there there is a lot going on. Oh, right. That's what it was. Yeah, I don't know. But I have an interesting thing I want to get to later about that that maybe we can figure it out. ah I like the the guy. All the women talk about, you know, Joyce's son and then that one guy with scraggly beard in the station.
00:21:51
Speaker
You know, he's talking about, yeah, I was, I don't know. I was there that day at the Donner. There was a kid, there was a boy in there. He's like, was it this boy? Nah, that's Lonnie's kid. I want him. And I'm like, you're the only guy that's referred to him as Lonnie's kid. Is this like, you know, is Lonnie just like one of those, like him and all his buddies are hanging out in the bar and that's when he's like, oh no, that's, that's Lonnie's kid. I ain't seen him.
00:22:17
Speaker
That guy was such a dork though. But everyone else is like, oh, that Joyce is missing her son.
Concerns about Restricted Areas
00:22:23
Speaker
He probably he probably ran with Lonnie when he was still on the scene. Yeah, they were they were riding their bikes in the streets when they were kids. They're sitting in the the bar every night talking about the good old times. Yeah, you remember you remember old Johnny. He used to come down. Oh, we had a good time then, man. Old Lonnie. The restricted area.
00:22:47
Speaker
and This really bothers me. i won And maybe we'll find out more. But, you know, they're doing the search at night and somebody finds something. Honestly, I don't know how he finds it because it's this small little piece of fabric coming out of the tunnel. Oh, yeah.
00:23:07
Speaker
which is bizarre to find that at night, but maybe, you know, oh, pipe let me look. Anyway, it doesn't matter. And then they walk over and it's like, oh, restricted area. And it's just big fence. And I'm thinking, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. Have we not considered this as an option or we just find it out about this restricted area because we're all standing there like, wait, you think he's in there?
00:23:29
Speaker
Well, maybe call the company. Surely we can. Hey, we're missing a kid. Has he shown up in your, you know, like we've not crossed that off the list already. Right. I don't know that bother you on the up and up with this, though. The bad guys would have you in a second. You're reporting the kid in the basement immediately. You're calling the restricted ear. Yeah. Yeah. But that's my thing. this That's logical. You're going to get us busted so fast. It's the thing. We don't have any reason to think that they're bad guys. Other than 11 said bad. It's a government building surrounded with fences, immediate distrust. Immediate distrust. Well, but i me as law enforcement is required to do my job and say, this is a fenced in area. I'm missing a kid. I need to ask everybody, hey, listen.
00:24:17
Speaker
I don't care what you guys are going on over there, we do whatever you want. I have a kid missing, have you seen him? Yeah, I don't wanna, you know, I'd love to come search your area if you'll let me, but otherwise just tell me, have you seen him? Do I have any reason to wanna go search there? I should be calling every business. And they're guilty AF and they're gonna be like, nope.
00:24:34
Speaker
It's a small town. I mean, like, well, they they don't know. I mean, I guess they find out that a kid's missing, but they're more interested in 11 and the monsters and all that's going on. I don't think they really have any stake in people not finding will. They have a lot of stake in people not rolling up in there asking questions. Well, I think my point, though, is I have no reason to know that. And so.
00:24:58
Speaker
Them rolling up to that fence like, oh, maybe he's in this restricted area. We should have already crossed this off the list. A big gated area close to where he got lost. We should have already asked somebody. Remind me, it was a was the restricted area like Just the fence of like the- Around the building. Yeah. Around the facility. There's a big Marlboro fence. Right. I guess maybe this is more also what you're saying though. like
00:25:30
Speaker
The restricted area shouldn't be a surprise either. Right, it seemed as though when they rolled up to it, they were like, whoa, this is new. Well, it shouldn't be. It's a small town. That place has probably been there for a long time. We've been searching for a few nights now. No one has considered this as a possibility. I would expect Hop to be like, no, I called the people. Yeah, that was the second place I called. Right, because it's a barbed wired fence in the area like I just, okay, now that we found something, maybe we need to do a little more more digging, but I called them, but they had a look like this is the first they've ever ever seen. He's only been missing for a short period of time, and I think the places they looked first made a lot more sense. Maybe. They they just looked at it like, ah did you know this was here? in this Right. I have no idea what this is. That's fair. That's a fair point.
00:26:25
Speaker
Uh, I have, I don't, I don't remember why I have this. Maybe y'all remember. I have written down milk for supper. Milk for supper. milk Yeah. The dinner table. Oh, that's exactly what it was. They were drinking. The kids were drinking milk at supper time. Do y'all recall when y'all were younger drinking milk for supper?
00:26:49
Speaker
hu oh yeah Please enlighten us. I mean, that's it. We definitely had to suffer. Was it a desire or was it, hey, you can have milk or water? It was one of the options, milk or water. It was always milk or water. You always got to go water, right? I liked milk. I guess. And it's a real thing. Yeah, I'm not sure when the, I mean, I know milk and kids, it always tends to be a drink, but Man, I can't remember. Like the got milk era, like everybody was drinking milk because it was like calcium and that's part of having healthy kids. You have a glass of milk, but yeah, we would have a glass of milk with meals all the time. Man, I had a cousin. This is way off topic. He would run in like we'd be outside middle of summer, run in. We've been playing basketball all hot, sweaty. He would run in and all he wanted was a glass of milk.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah, no saying. Did you know? i'm Milk is actually more hydrating than water. You can look it up. Whoa, somebody please look that up. Because water a lot of times while hydrating lacks certain things that your body needs in in terms of, um I don't know, electrolytes in milk. um But yeah, there's absolutely hydrating properties to milk.
00:28:06
Speaker
oh I mean literally in the word H2O is hydrogen, which was where a hydrate comes from. This is from health dot.harvard dot.edu. Very trustworthy.
00:28:20
Speaker
after drinking milk the study volunteers produce less urine and therefore retain more fluid than water or sports drink because it makes you pee oh sorry was considered to provide better hydration because you're not peeing you're not peeing as much so you say right through because you can drink too much water and actually end up in a bad way and deplete your nutrients all your electrolytes and your salts So you have to make sure that if you're just chugging water all the time to stay hydrated, you're missing. I don't even, I don't even remember the scene that you're referring to that brought this whole conversation up. I'm so glad you remember it was supper because you're right. That's why it was weird. I thought it was maybe Mike had, but he gave her waffles or something, didn't he? Eggos. Yeah, she was really into those. Eggos. Those are so gross. That's a classic too. Gross. I don't like them. We're not gonna do that. The real ones?
00:29:11
Speaker
Don't get the operands. Yes, the operands. Okay. Okay. Sorry. um All right. let's Let's get into the the meat meat of this thing here. Jonathan taking pictures. But we got to talk about some other things before we get to the pictures. Do we? o Yes, we do. Go for it. Go ahead.
00:29:35
Speaker
Well, I don't know what you're thinking about, but there's a lot that transpires leading up to that party and it's funny and noteworthy. Starting with the, you know, they do bully Nancy a little bit for the fact that she's shocked that they want to have a party on a Tuesday. So are you in? For what? No parents. Big house. Party? Ding, ding, ding.
00:29:58
Speaker
it's tuesday Tuesday, oh my god, come on. She's like, yeah, but it's Tuesday and they're like. who um So it's like this whole big thing, right? And then she has the conversation with Barb in the car and Barb is like, what are you about to do? What are we even doing here? Like, you're compromising who you are because you want to go talk to this boy. This is the classic, you know, we knew this from the get go. You could tell from looking at him.
00:30:28
Speaker
Wow! You can! You can look at Nancy and Barb side by side and tell me that Nancy is not the one that's like, okay, eventually Nancy's gonna realize she could fly with the cool kids and can skip out on studying. and Or just move a little. The cliche cool kids. I mean, who's to say they're the cool kids? They weren't that cool.
00:30:50
Speaker
Well, right. Right. But also Nancy's at a point in her life where she's getting older. She's towards the you know, she's in high school. And so she's been a good kid her whole life. And now she's like, maybe I want to go hang out with this cute guy and like.
00:31:05
Speaker
I don't know. Are you defending or I mean, a little I understand where Barb is like, hey, listen, don't put yourself in a bad spot, but also Barb can relax a little bit. You're not my mom. You know, let's just I mean, she looks like somebody. But you're lucky to be here. OK, the only reason you're here, Bob, Barb. It's because I'm cool and I let you hang out with me. no i You have gathered in for Barb, obviously. He was not part of the hashtag Justice for Barb. Do y'all remember that? What? I don't know that. There's a whole hashtag. Anyway. Oh, because she went out so soon? Mm-hmm.
00:31:43
Speaker
Yeah, it was a whole minute going looking for will and what what was the significance of even mentioning its home Tuesday just to make it like Give Barb even more of a reason to be like Nancy. What are you at the stage for like this is not your you well I think it just it highlights the fact that Nancy and Barb are like, you know goody two shoes. It's a Tuesday You're partying. Well, but even now I if somebody tells me they're going out and doing something on a on a Tuesday Tuesday I'm gonna be like it's Tuesday okay it's Tuesday I don't disagree I think it may be in that time period it was a little bit more like guys you're partying it's Tuesday night we have school tomorrow it's a time period thing I think it's where was Steve's family what did he say they were just out of town yeah I get the vibe they were sort of like wealthy and not completely involved type of yeah they which is how Steve turned out to be
00:32:39
Speaker
A little bit of a... The way he is now, maybe he'll be alright. Who knows? We'll see. um Well, okay, but regardless of all that, they roll up. It's obvious that Barb is not having a good time. Nancy is, you know. Shugged a beer. Shotgunned it. Shotgunned a beer. She did a great job, by the way.
00:32:59
Speaker
Honestly, Barb's not taking advantage of the opportunity to fit in with cool kids. Oh, my gosh. i you saying Listen, here's the thing, though. She obviously doesn't want to be there. OK, Barb, it's obvious you and Nancy are like not aligned here. This is, you know, can I just say like I this is probably not a surprise. I would have totally been Barb.
00:33:22
Speaker
Oh yeah, you wouldn't have gone. If I would have got, I'm telling you, like I was, I was very good in high school, very, if I had been somewhere and I'd have been like, let's, let's play this out a little bit. Okay. It's me and you, Shawna, invite me and Chuck to a party in the hallway.
00:33:42
Speaker
I'm your buddy. I'm the one that talks about it in school. That's even more crazy. secret Oh my God. All right. We're at lunch. We're at lunch. You, you really like Shawna and she comes over. All right. Invite us to a party. I'm like, guys, my parents are out of town. Y'all want to come hang out. Are you, are there going to be other people there? Yeah, but a couple it's Tuesday, though, too. I got homework. I, you write you guys, you got to do, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:34:07
Speaker
No, no, we we. I mean, you don't have to come, but it's going to be really cool. And I see you're inviting. You're inviting Charlie. Are you? Who are you in this scenario? Oh, are you the title? She's Nancy. Are you the default? No, I mean, it's I'm his friend. He likes you. I'm trying to hook him up, you know. OK. Are you inviting Charlie? Yeah. Come over. It'll be fun. You're going to hang out by the pool. My parents are not there. Oh, come on. Don't be lame. I don't have.
00:34:35
Speaker
It's fine. You did schoolwork all week. Let me... it Yeah. Can we talk for a moment? and we talk Let me talk to him real fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Am I gonna have to take my shirt off? Maybe, but like...
00:34:48
Speaker
Yeah, you can't wear that that pool shirt. No, you have to take your shirt off. Well, it's like freezing outside. Well, it's fine. It's I got this is your opportunity. You've been
Jonathan's Photography: Creepy or Not?
00:35:02
Speaker
talking about her for so long now, but I don't even I mean, yeah, talking like what? I mean, I mean, it's happening. This is your chance. I accidentally brushed her shoulder one time in class. That's about it. I mean, what? Right. This is your moment.
00:35:18
Speaker
Don't blow this for us, Chuck. And it's Tuesday. I mean, what am I going to tell Mama and Daddy? God, you're getting red. Mama and Daddy? He's going to tell him anything. I got to tell him where I am. Just make something up. You're coming over to my house to play micro machines. Well, what are we going to do over there? What are we going to do? I don't know. Hang on. I don't know. I don't know. We figured out. We pretend.
00:35:46
Speaker
and All right. Uh, do you have any friends that'll be there? Yeah. Is Nancy going to be there? Yeah. I told her she could come and bring that ah whatever her word. Oh, Barb. so bar that her name? Yeah. Oh, okay. Is she going to be there? I don't know. She goes everywhere. Nancy goes. So maybe oh i think a yeah I'll go. I'm going to be there. Yeah.
00:36:12
Speaker
See, see, let me let me interject in the scene here real quick. See, I would love Barbie in there because I know. Yes. Me and Barb would be on the same page and I wouldn't be the only one freaking out like you would have been your emotional support. Yes. Oh, I would. feel I feel comfortable now.
00:36:32
Speaker
Just knowing she's going to be there. hey It's Tuesday and Barb. I was going to say, yeah, we might actually have to do that homework, Chuck. We might not. We might yeah you were and have your notebooks by the pool or if you're going to be such a drag. She's going to ruin it. I would have saved Barb. Wow. You know what? You might have. Yeah, she'd have had she'd have had a buddy and ah there's no way with Barb there. i I'm thinking I'm getting any action from Nancy now.
00:37:01
Speaker
And just to such a go even further with what was going on in that house. I mean, yes, I in high school, I was very naive to like somebody told me not to do some or it was not right. Like I was like, yeah, du of course, I'm not going to. Are you not going to do that? My gym teacher said I should do that crazy.
00:37:21
Speaker
um I obviously have come to realize like there was a little bit of stuff going on, surely, that I wasn't a part of. but it just still blows me away to see Steve and Nancy and they're like about to, you know, have a good time together and they're drinking beer. Yeah. I mean, maybe high school year, maybe I was at somebody's house and I was like, Oh, they're doing that. Okay. Whatever.
00:37:55
Speaker
I'll give you a little bit of credit. I would totally overthink the whole situation because I think like, where, beer, where am I going to get beer? I can't steal my parents and they would know that it's gone. I didn't like saying the word. I've never even had it. So funny. I would definitely be overthinking that situation, but I would still be peer pressured into doing it. I think I'd definitely be peer pressured into doing it way faster than you would.
00:38:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah. I mean, I had the opportunity to be peer. I mean, it's hard to get you to do something now as an adult. I'm like, Chuck, let's, you know, I don't want to feel very self-conscious about my high school experience. No, no, no, I think we were the I was the oddball for sure. Not I was the non non non. I was in the minority. Yeah.
00:38:44
Speaker
I think I was too just on the other end of the spectrum. And I was right in the middle. Look at that. We found the sweet spot. Me. Oh man. I used to walk to class smoking cigarettes out in the open. I'd cup it in my hand and just walk. No. Okay. You are in the minority. No, I was waiting. You're on the other end. You're lying. What? You're in an high school and you're smoking. And I had cigarettes and I would hold it like this and cup it in my hand and I would take drags um between classes walking down the track. And see, we used to hear, I would hear stories about all this person smokes.
00:39:20
Speaker
And I was thinking, no, they don't. They're making that up. No shot. Nobody's smoking here. Nobody's in the back of school. Smoking, right. They were. Shauna.
00:39:34
Speaker
that's crazy the one time where i thought that might be a real thing there was a kid on the bus and he had told me that he had cigarettes and but he pulled out a little ziplock bag with like four or five of them in there and i'm like that's crazy i mean we're like you know, eighth, ninth grade. And I just thought that was bizarre. But that was the only interaction. Here's my other thought, though. I went to a big high school because y'all are y'all were in school. It was a pretty small out in Virginia. And I was in high school here in Atlanta. People were doing drugs in the back of the school bus. I mean, it was not that weird.
00:40:14
Speaker
There are a lot of things to be happy. Wow. That's a good, that's... I think location, man. We'll cut you a little bit of break, but you're still on the far end of the spectrum. Can we get back though to the fact that Jonathan was taking pictures of them at the party, and that's weird? Because you wanted us to skate by that, and I don't want you to... He was taking pictures. Well, I would like to say, I know what you're about to say, he was taking pictures of the crime scene. They weren't even good pictures. He stamped one, and I'm like, that's a branch. What is that going to tell you later, Jonathan?
00:40:42
Speaker
Oh, look at his picture. Maybe he's a tracker and you don't know it. He's got skills. At night? Even better. And then he runs down and he's like, oh, party. Might as well take pictures of him here. It was, it was like a little bit like, okay, the situation just happened to land there. Fine. Okay. It was fine. But once they went inside,
00:41:03
Speaker
And he took a picture of her up in the window. I'm like, ooh, ooh. Whoops. Jonathan. Jonathan is a repressed individual. I'm going to tell you that right now. He does not. He's he has to parent his parent.
00:41:18
Speaker
And right he has very few social outlets. At the moment he has to parent his parent because she's in distress. credit I think i think she but because he's older, I think she looks to him a lot because even in the first episode, she's like, what do you mean you don't know where your brother is? Like he's expected to carry weight.
00:41:35
Speaker
that somebody his age really should know. I'm concerned you're trying to justify him taking pictures of a girl. and No, you should not do that. You should not. I'm just saying that I recognize the nuance there. And I think in that moment he made a bad decision. I don't think that makes him like an across the board, creepy pervert. I think.
00:41:51
Speaker
Again, he just had a moment. He redeems himself later, for sure. I don't think that. I just mean, I think he had a lapse in judgment. But I think there's a part of him that he doesn't he never gets to let his hair down. He lives like a heavy life. And in that moment, I think he just his hair is always let down. Chuck, what are your thoughts here? Please chime in. I'll be honest, I don't even remember thinking, oh, this is so creepy weird. He's taking pictures of them.
00:42:18
Speaker
Maybe I'm just not remembering as much. I know he like he's he's in the woods and the edge of the woods Taking photos of them at the pool party
00:42:30
Speaker
But he did. And he got pictures of all of them. It wasn't just when Barb was sitting on the. No, he got pictures of all of them and then they go inside and Nancy stands by the window and he takes oh cover up there. OK, OK. Yeah, I remember that. And then after he takes a picture of Barb on the diving board, he runs out of film and he misses a Demogorgon, Eatener. I mean, Demogorgon. Convenient. No. What were you going to say, Shona?
00:43:02
Speaker
You were going to justify it somehow? no Well, I will go along with what I mean, I do. I don't feel like, oh, my gosh, he's a weirdo. Well, let's picture the scenario where he gets caught. Let's let's how does he talk himself out of that?
00:43:19
Speaker
John, is that, wait a minute, is that Jonathan in the woods? He was out looking for his brother. He's taking pictures of us. But that's not why he was, it's not like he went there to take pictures of him. Wait, wait, wait, wait, but it doesn't matter. I think that's a fair point. I actually think that's a fair point. Again, he just got caught up in the moment. He didn't leave his house like, I'm going to go sit in the woods. Well, I know, I know, I know. But you guys are missing the, you guys are missing it. The point. I'm the one with the point.
00:43:43
Speaker
He's it doesn't matter what he was doing or what it looks what all the matters what it looks like If you walk in and someone's standing there holding a bloody knife and there's a dead person on the floor You're not gonna think oh, well, maybe they will just walked in too and picked up the knife No, you're going to think that person just killed them. Similarly, if he gets caught, they're not going to think, oh, well, his brother was lost in those woods. He's probably out taking photos. I think that's exactly what I was thinking. That's not what you would think. If you caught him, if you're John or Steve and you're like,
00:44:17
Speaker
Well, Steve doesn't think rationally anyone at that party. Nancy is going to see Jonathan in the woods taking photos. I bet Barb would have maybe been like because Barb had no allies in that situation. She's just desperate for any. I might have been like, oh, hey.
00:44:32
Speaker
Jonathan, we should have. i I mean, he was. If anything, those two are probably the better suited. Well, it didn't make me. It didn't make me like totally hate his character. Not at all. Right. Well, that's the thing, though. You guys have the context. I'm just saying in terms of like what Steve and Nancy and everyone else at the party would have seen.
00:44:58
Speaker
it would have been and They wouldn't have had the contacts and he would have been labeled a creep, which again, I argue to say he's a little bit because he, oh, he came over there and he's still taking photos. What what are we taking? Yeah, I wonder if there was another way where they could. Not to always be thinking about what they were thinking when they wrote that, but.
00:45:19
Speaker
Maybe there was a better way to make him not look as creepy, but also... But I think the point was to make him look creepy. You think? I do. I don't know why I would want to make him look creepy. Well, it gave his character some nuance. Well, maybe we're just... Yeah. I think the idea was maybe that like... It's just for us to be like, oh, well, he's his deal. Well, I think maybe too it could be...
00:45:43
Speaker
maybe to signify, oh, he's a loner. He doesn't have friends. He's kind of like wondering what it would be like to be on that side. That's what I mean. He had a moment where he was like. I know, but I still just think that's weird and they definitely shouldn't have made him do that because I just don't understand it. I don't understand. Oh, yeah I have a camera. I might as well just.
00:46:02
Speaker
I think you don't like that he happened to just focus on Barb there towards the end. That's not that because Nancy's up in the window a snake on his girl and she yeah takes her shirt off and she's standing the window. that new ah and by the way That's one picture. here and He's like, you know what? That's kind of hot. Click. Anyway, let me go run off and get these weird to take pictures of people back in the eighties.
00:46:26
Speaker
In their windows? That never changes. Half naked in their window? Yeah. that ever still Is that not okay? When you're hiding in the woods? Yeah. yeah I don't think that. Whether it's 80s, 90s, a cell phone or 2000s, it was okay. But then we came back to the room. And during COVID, it was okay. Yeah. Everything was okay during COVID.
00:46:47
Speaker
Yeah, you could blame anything on the fact that I took creepy pictures. because it Okay, but here's, here's again, there's more meat to this. Nance, not Nancy, um, joists with the lights.
Joyce and the Supernatural Lights
00:47:00
Speaker
I, I'm not going to say this is weird by any means, because given all the clues in the situation, right? Obviously Joyce has reason to believe that is her child playing with the lights and there's crazy stuff going on. Okay, but I want to know, and we'll obviously, you know, get a taste of it in episode three, but I want to know, how would you guys describe that situation as someone? Okay, your Joyce, your son's been missing, they already think you're a little crazy.
00:47:32
Speaker
because you're getting a little delusional. You're, you know, you're thinking on your emotions. You're like, oh, that was totally well. There's no other explanation. You know, how are you explaining? OK, so he called again. The phone blew up again, but then the lights started flickering and I followed him down the hallway and then that song started playing on the boom. And then these faces started busting through the wall. So here's my thing, too, as a former problem child.
00:48:01
Speaker
Go ahead. I wouldn't trust anybody. So I think I wouldn't. I'd be so selected, that'd be the biggest difference. I'd try to find somebody to tell maybe, ah but I wouldn't trust anybody with that information because it does sound insane. Wait, but wait, wait, though.
00:48:23
Speaker
You're not gonna witness something like that, something crawling out of the wall and not tell anyone. I can't hear like a little taste of gossip and keep it to myself. I gotta to at least tell somebody, yo, you won't believe what I just heard. So ando and so and so and so man, let me tell you.
00:48:43
Speaker
like Wait, is that Hopper or is that you? No, that's me. Oh gosh, that's good to know. I can sit on some stuff. I can sit on some stuff. And I just, that would be hard because I would be like, I don't. That's supernatural. There's no way you're going to pocket that and be like, all right, let me. But that's the reason why. Also, you're already emotional. Your kid's been gone and he's obviously there.
00:49:08
Speaker
That's the part that you would have to somehow try to get out ahead of, is the fact that you're so emotional and frantic, but if it's your kid, can you even? What do you even do? I, again, I would, okay, so you're obviously not gonna tell anyone. Chuck, I would love for you to play Miss Winona Ryder here. I was initially thinking like, yeah, the face and the hands coming out of the wall.
00:49:34
Speaker
Like, I wouldn't even try to explain the lights. I mean, that could have been just a weird thing. But yeah, I think the face and the something supernatural going on like that, that's very obvious and has no other possible cause. I'm not gonna believe you in the lights. I'm going straight with that. And right, the lights could have been, oh yeah, whatever. The face coming through the wall is like, I mean, I would have led with that and been like, okay,
00:50:04
Speaker
You guys are never going to believe me. I wouldn't have been worried. Are you going to believe me? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you open with that? OK, listen, guys. Is Hopper who you're going to tell or would you potentially maybe try to find somebody who'd be a little more likely to believe you? Who is somebody who is somebody, one, that's going to believe you, but two, that it's going to matter? What are you going to do with that information? I feel like it wouldn't matter if I told Hopper he wasn't going to believe me regardless. So you're still on your own.
00:50:33
Speaker
It is a very- It's worth a shot though. Out of the norm thing to hear somebody say, so you, like if somebody were, if I were Hopper and you, anybody told me that, Joyce or anybody. Right. I'd be like,
00:50:46
Speaker
Okay. Well, that's definitely not what happened. Cause that's not, that doesn't happen. So let me just let them see hear what you got to say, but something else happened here. Not that. but So I guess you do have to think about that. Like if you tell somebody that chances are they're not immediately like, Oh my gosh. yeah Right. They're not going to help you. You're still in there. That feels like you're insane. It feels like a bad reason not to tell. us Well, they're not going to believe me. No, I'm still going to tell all them. Right. I wouldn't tell him, though, because of his personality. Who are you going to tell? Pick any of those characters. Who are you going to tell? I don't think there's anybody that we've seen so far. So you're going to sit on it? I would probably tell Jonathan. Oh, that's a terrible. But she kind of does anyway. I'll go. Let me go grab my camera.
00:51:32
Speaker
ah You know what I'm honestly thinking? I would probably try to tell somebody who already believed in supernatural things. But you're picking people that aren't involved. You have to pick someone that's there. You don't think there's like a priest somewhere around or something? I don't know. I don't know why I'm thinking like that. I would just want to tell somebody who already had a priest believe in the supernatural. Yes. Jesus.
00:51:55
Speaker
Whoa, we're getting religious. I'm just saying I would want to talk to somebody who at least but like Hopper seems like somebody who's like, if I see it, I believe it. If I do, he's very concrete. Yeah. But I don't think there's a downside to telling him. them I think because he obviously has a soft spot for Joyce. That probably works to her advantage. Otherwise, if it and like if you can give me a reason why telling him would be a bad thing.
00:52:23
Speaker
Otherwise it's, I tell him he doesn't believe me. There's a sliver of chance. He does something to try and believe it or go, okay, maybe we can set something up. You know, wait, does she tell him? Well, we find out in episode three. Oh, okay.
00:52:40
Speaker
I just, I mean, again, I think the fear would be she'd leave with the lights. Listen, the lights start flickering, and then that one started flickering. I followed them down the hall, and then the boombox started playing. And- Boombox? The song that Will and Jonathan- And then I held the lamp, and I said, Will? And it got really, really bright. And I'd be like, listen, Joyce, I'm gonna be honest with you, you sound delusional here. But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, but wait.
00:53:09
Speaker
Then I look over and the wallpaper, there's something on the other side of it that starts to like try and climb out. Joyce, Joyce. I mean, you run the risk of trying to institutionalize you at that point. Well, I think it would be more of like, OK, she lost her child. She's not thinking clearly. She might be hallucinating.
00:53:30
Speaker
Maybe we get her some medical attention. I don't think she's crazy. She's just losing it right now. And then they take you for a little drive, and you pull up to a building, and then you really can't find your thing. And they're like, just look at the flowers. Just look at the flowers. That's why I wouldn't tell people. I'd be so selective, because I'd be like, y'all are putting me away, not today. That was a Walking Dead reference.
00:53:50
Speaker
Yep. You got it. I did. I forgot about this. Oh my gosh. what ah what did ah What did the guy tell Lenny and a bison man too? He told him to look at something or do something while. That's dark. Speaking of the, when they were sitting in there just listening to the, was it a record?
00:54:13
Speaker
That's why I made the face when you said boombox, because I think it was a record player. We don't call those boombox. Boombox is the thing you put up on your shoulder and walk around. Got it. But I mean, that was, that's not a thing that really happens anymore. Like you just, well, I guess people do just chill and sit in the room and listen to music.
00:54:33
Speaker
her
Bonding Over Music
00:54:35
Speaker
Okay. No, man. I just thought it's so neat. It was just a cool moment. It was a vibe. You were wanting to be there. You were like, I want to go hang out with these guys. It was like, look at them just hanging out on their bed, two brothers listening. And the way they just were doing it. And I was thinking, well, that's a big deal for them to have that record and to be listening You know, nowadays we just take for granted. All right, listen to me. You better cry. No, I wasn't. It was an emotional moment for them, for two brothers to just be on the bed.
00:55:06
Speaker
And surely Will's sitting there thinking, oh man, this is cool. I'm sitting here with my older brother and we're listening to this record. That was such a rite of passage back in the day. He's going to cry. I'm not going to cry. I don't have an older brother. It was such a rite of passage back in the day though. I mean, I had this same experience with my cousins and CDs. The first time I heard the Nirvana Nevermind CD was my cousin came over to visit for Christmas and he played me that album and it changed my life. Yeah, you could tell Will was sitting there like, this is awesome. Yes, this is awesome. That was a whole thing. Like when somebody plays you a record or a CD and introduces you to an artist or a genre. And the whole, like a little bit of bonding over, you know, hey, dad sucks. Also, what's the first thing you think of when you hear that song? Should I stay or should I go?
00:55:53
Speaker
a Guitar hero. Yes. Yeah rock man. But yeah. Yes. Yeah immediately rock and every time I hear Danny nanny nanny nanny nanny Yeah, that was terrible. But it's a first thing and and I'm like expert easy. I'm a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah I've been watching a big play that gaming man. Well fun little fact me and chug did the was it was rock band and Yes, we did they had this one and then i'll wrap this up because we we got to wrap this one up I we did this they have this insane playlist on there Like this, you know game, you know, you do a playlist you have to play all their songs without break And we did the insane one which had every song on the game in one playlist. I think it was like 62 songs Goodly and he played on the drums and I played on the guitar Drums is the hardest part
00:56:45
Speaker
And we sat there for like five hours and busted out every one of those songs to the point he broke the pedal on the drum. then on the last song On the last song we thought there's no way we're not gonna make it. We can't do it without the kick. When there was another song that we're sitting there like You know, different parts, like we're saving each other. Like I'm going to lose it. Yeah. You have the star power. and That was a marathon. Oh, and that might solidify the fact that we were dorks and you were smoking cigarettes in high school. So, yeah, that's meanwhile, we're sitting there doing a marathon of Guitar Hero in his basement. Except we weren't in high school. I was like a grown adult.
00:57:33
Speaker
It's very wholesome, it's very wholesome. Anyway, okay, well that wraps it up for episode two of Stranger Things. We'll be back with episode three. um I think it's going, it's going well. The 80's is his vibe. um Yeah, so thank you everyone for listening. Chuck, you wanna say something?
00:57:50
Speaker
Yeah, real quick. We did have an entry from the diary, literally, from Hopper. Please. Oh, don't get too excited. I mean, apparently some stuff was going down. He's like, dear diary, hot man here. You know, that's his thing. All it says is WTF. Bad day. Hop out. Wow, that's it. He's feeling it. Like, he's going through some stuff. So bad he was nonverbal. Oh, yeah. Nonverbal in the diary. You know what I think it was? I think it was the daughter comment.
00:58:17
Speaker
Oh yeah. He's thinking. I felt the WTF bad day. dot dot He had a dot, dot, dot in there, which is actually where I get the dot, dot, dot from. from So we're like, yeah. Bad day. Dot, dot, dot. Wow. Joyce mentioned my daughter, which she knows about. Yeah. A little insensitive, but whatever. Okay, Joyce. All right, Joyce. Okay, great. Thank you everybody for listening and we'll see you for episode three.