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Bear Trap: Stranger Things S1E6
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The kids go monster hunting, Jonathan and Nancy buy bear traps and gasoline like it's the 80's or something! (lol) and Eleven flips cars with her mind despite merely fumbling her way through the English language.
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my COPD. its About twice a year, he's good for a six-month cold. Well, okay, but that's legitimately... That was pretty funny.
00:00:13
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I made that up on the fly.
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Well, are going to have to talk a lot because I'm going to be, the more I talk, the more I'm going want to talk. As as I get that recap, I'll be okay. All right. I think I can do it.
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Let's go for it. All right. Well, that's like confirmation. Okay. All right. Okay. Let's go for it. All right.
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All right.
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Oh, we're back. Okay. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Episodes Unscripted. My name is Scott Feltz. I'm joined, as always, by Charlie Harcum.
00:01:05
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All right. And Sean Fretwell. Hello. Hello. We are on episode six, excuse me, episode six of Stranger Things.
00:01:17
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And while I... Season one. Season one, yes. Thank you for clarifying. we're We're well behind. Yeah. And I won't even mention the fact, as I'm about to mention... But I will mention....that they...
00:01:32
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Whoa, do we have thoughts on the fact that they've introduced the next season to come out on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's? I mean, think that's just the reality of TV nowadays.
00:01:47
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What does that mean though? Anticipation is the best marketing ever. would that be? Oh, you know what we should do? Release it on the popular holidays.
00:01:58
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Why? Release it. Okay, wait, I'm behind then. Release it as in it's a staggered release that spreads out over the three holidays? yes Yeah. oh Oh. Well, I mean, everybody's just hanging out watching movies and shows during that time of year anyway, right? i agree. I guess. actually think it's a poor decision, and here's why. Y'all will definitely agree once you hear this explanation, especially the one on Thanksgiving.
00:02:22
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You know what everybody's doing on Thanksgiving this year. This year in particular? Watching football. Oh.
00:02:32
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yeah Watching part two of Wicked. Duh. It's going no time for a Stranger Things. Wow. And we're off and running. I did see that preview.
00:02:43
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Let's get to Stranger Things. I'm going to pass this to Shauna to read the summary. You pass it to me? Oh. Well, Shauna's a good reader. Maybe you'll get caught on. She's got the radio voice. We'll do popcorn reading.
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um because I'm having a little bit of a cough, and I don't want to bug everybody, all of our listeners. I want to annoy their ears.
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This is episode six. This is a recap. Okay. Rock and roll. ah So the episode opens with Nancy trapped in the Upside Down, having followed a noise through a tree portal in the woods.
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Jonathan helps her escape just in time. Shaken by what they saw, the two bond over their shared determination to fight the monster, gathering supplies and building traps to confront it.
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Meanwhile, Eleven, hiding alone, remembers more of her time in Hawkins' lab, how she was forced into sensory deprivation experiments that opened a portal to another dimension, leading to first contact with the Demogorgon.
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Elsewhere, Joyce and Hopper follow a lead to Terry Ives, a woman who claims the government stole her daughter after participating in MKUltra. Hopper starts connecting the dots between the lab, the missing kids, and something much darker.
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Back with the boys, Lucas is angry that Mike keeps trusting Eleven and storms off. Meanwhile, Mike and Dustin search for Eleven, only to be cornered by government agents.
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Just when all seems lost, Eleven reappears and saves them, flipping a van with her powers in a dramatic showdown. The episode ends with the kids reunited and the danger growing ever closer, and the adults finally start starting to realize the truth isn't just strange, it's terrifying.
00:04:37
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Oh, I see what it did there. Strange. What happened? He was writing stuff down whole time. What was he writing down? ah What's he writing? Oh, I don't know. What are you writing, dude? Two good things. You've already taken notes.
00:04:50
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a Tree portal. i didn't know it was a real thing. I mean, is a tree portal, but... It was literally... a um MK... MKUltra?
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Yeah, I never put that together. didn't realize that it had name. I wonder if it was nod to Mary Kay.
00:05:09
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Like the door-to-door makeup. Mary Kay. I remember. I remember. um i'm gonna have I feel like we're all three going to have issues separating what is episode six, seven, and eight.
00:05:22
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Since we three. No, I'm not, because remember how it ends. Okay, all right. But also, I took notes, and I started each episode with a new... like I did, too. want me, too. In my head. Very clear.
00:05:35
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Okay. I was excited from the get-go, because I'm like, okay, finally, where where we're getting to understand... Oh, the upside down. And okay, now we're getting to the meat of something. Eventually something significant is coming around.
00:05:52
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These episodes were fun. They were really... Like they were. They were fun. It sped up, which is which is interesting because I feel like I get it. Like everything is mounting and now we're we're in the thick of it.
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Like, all right, it's happening now. So everything's quick. I don't have time to stop. i don't have time to do this. But it's... it's I don't know. I feel like there's I can't think of them off the top of my head, but there's examples where I'm watching where I'm like, normally, though, they'd be a little bit distracted by that or they'd be like, I wonder about this.
00:06:25
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Let's stop and think about it. No, not now. Yeah, maybe they had a good five episodes of this is a cool nostalgia show, eighty s Right. All right.
00:06:37
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Let's go ahead and... The time for dialogue over. Let's wrap it up. Or the pedal to the metal. Wow, sweet. Other way around. How about that jump scare? That was ridiculous, right? In the very beginning when they're showing Nancy in the Upside Down, that's a huge jump scare when she turns and sees the...
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Demo Gorgon. Don't you remember? Man, it made me jump out of my chair. Literally. don't remember it. Oh, you just inserted it right here and everybody just saw it.
00:07:09
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It's a huge jump scare. Incredible. Out of nowhere. Did he come from the right side of the screen? Even when I rewound it. You were like, man, I wouldn't expect him to come from that side of the screen.
00:07:23
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No, it was straight on. It was just a cut straight to him. But a crazy noise. I see what you did there. The whole... it's coming from the right, you don't see coming.
00:07:36
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Yeah. So, I just thought... I missed that. This episode had a lot of jump scares in It did. I was thinking of the one. Sorry. ahead, please. There was another one. There was another one. And i um but I... think it was like towards the middle of that episode. Yeah. no Yeah, It wasn't in the upside down. It was something like a weird... It was in the lab, right?
00:07:57
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Yeah. there There were a few. yeah Yeah. This was definitely few. What were you going to I was going to say my notes started with when Steve caught Jonathan and...
00:08:12
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oh ah Wow. No notes before that. Okay. Nancy. Yeah. now I screenshotted my very first note and texted to Scott and it literally just says, episode six, the couple is still the effing worst.
00:08:26
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That couple that hangs out with Steve. Oh, they are. God, I hate them so much. They're literally. I mean, they were over the top. Yeah. They're just as bad as the bullies that bully Mike and Lucas and Dustin. Those guys are awful too. But this, got like just the stuff.
00:08:43
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What was it? He was concerned about Nancy because she'd gone missing. And the girl in the backseat is like, oh, new shut up.
00:08:53
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Well. I hate them. I wanted to know what could possibly be going on in Steve's head when he catches them together, having known all that we've, that we now know about, you know, Jonathan, was taking pictures of her in the window. I'm not going to let y'all forget that, by the way. I don't think it bothers. don't know why it doesn't bother me as much. I'm not going to let y'all just forget that that happened.
00:09:24
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He was in the woods taking pictures of her through her window. it was one time. Now Steve's catching him and he's like, how does that? How does he win?
00:09:35
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what What am I doing? that's not He was taking pictures of her and yet here he is winning. Okay, but here's my thing with that too.
00:09:46
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I had the theory... Steve has had a couple moments where it seems like he actually cares about her. But for the most part, I felt like Steve in this episode, especially the first portion that you're referring to, it wasn't so much that Steve cared about Nancy. It was that he cared about his own ego and he just didn't like the fact that Jonathan had something he couldn't have.
00:10:06
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That was louder to me than him actually giving a crap about Nancy one way or another. He was more just in competition. like He couldn't wrap his head around the fact that, like, I'm Steve Harrington and this guy... Like that was the energy. Jealous. Yeah.
00:10:20
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But also when he saw him in the room, technically right then I don't know if Jonathan was really winning. He just had his. I mean, he just happened to be being really nice to Nancy at the moment and was there when she needed it mean, it's not like he caught them in the bed.
00:10:39
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i mean, they were sitting on the edge the bed, but thought he caught them. They had all their clothes on. i mean, it wasn't. That's where it starts. Catch them. It starts with clothes on. That's true.
00:10:49
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Because the retaliation was so far out of the realm of what was even marginally reasonable or a Quick side note. Oh, go ahead. But, you know, we found out that he didn't do it.
00:11:02
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Right. it was the friend. Right. friend Of course it was. I'm just defending him a little here. No, he didn't climb up there and do it. But he was still standing there with them afterwards and it didn't seem like a whole lot of stuff. Right. Complicitcy. There are consequences for being complicit, Scott. That's right. Guilty by association. Everybody knows that. What did you do to stop it? Yeah. I just missed part where we're all of a sudden supposed to pull for Nancy and Jonathan.
00:11:27
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Like they're hinting at like, oh, isn't this cool? Like them, that's sweet, right? yeah Why? why do Why? I love it. and what am I? Why do want to fall for that? Because Jonathan is a straight up the dude you would never ever, he would never have a chance. Because he's he's griefing.
00:11:43
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That's why. You don't know what it's like to be Jonathan. That's the problem. Not griefing. He's grieving. Okay, but can I just say, He's also hot in like a artsy brooding. Like that's the appeal.
00:11:58
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Jonathan is hot. He's low key. Yeah. He's that brooding. I knew it, but now I know for sure. He's misunderstood. He's creative. He's a little moody and, and whatever, whatever. He's pictures of women. a little mysterious.
00:12:14
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Hides in the with the woods with his camera. at one time. That's all it takes to be a creep. If I talk to a kid underage, it's not like, well, he only did it once, you know, him a break.
00:12:27
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No, you're a creep now. That's it. That's very different. You can't talk to little kids. I feel like it's not that different. You mean because they're high schoolers, so they're minors. Maybe that was a bit of a leap in terms of an analogy I could have made.
00:12:42
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But my point being, he was hiding in the woods, taking pictures through her window of her with her bra on. That feels like, okay, you're a creep now. You don't get to just be like, well, it's only one time. Okay, but also Nancy gets to make that choice because she did know he did that.
00:13:00
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She was not unaware that he had done that. Right, and i um'm i'm not and I'm not sure why she's cool with it and why I'm supposed to be like, you know what? Right. I like this relationship. What do they say about it?
00:13:14
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But we've seen the evolution of him as a character as well. So he's not just the creep they all assumed that he was. he And Scott assumed he was. um What I wanted to say was, I love that song when when Steve and the two and the couple are in the car and they're like, I don't know what she was so upset. You know, he's driving and it's night.
00:13:35
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That song i was playing in the car, I wear my sunglasses at night. Oh, right, right. They missed opportunity for one of them to have their sunglasses on. But it made me think, Scott, I bet you're that guy, aren't you?
00:13:48
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That wears sunglasses at night. No. And in fact, I caught Evan. this past weekend wearing his sunglasses inside. And I'm like, what are we doing here?
00:13:59
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we're like getting Why are we being a tough guy? We're all sitting down to eat and he's got his sunglasses on. And I'm like, who are you, buddy? What are you looking at that we all can't see you looking at? yeah It's one of those subtle ways to assert your dominance.
00:14:15
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Just sit down your sunglasses on. I will say. No, Jonathan would never. He doesn't have any dominance to assert. Okay, excuse me.
00:14:25
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He beat the snot out of Steve and it was so awesome to watch. He did. I wrote that down. kicked his ass. Is that the episode? Oh, I loved and think it I think it is. I don't know. I didn't.
00:14:36
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I wrote it down. I was heckling. I was heckling during this. I loved it. hi I will say, i said, if we if we had first blood rules, if that was a thing, I'd be shaking a lot of hands.
00:14:51
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I... Were you the kid that shoved people? Oh, yeah. No, I don't mean he was. I meant first blood rules. Yeah. You would be. I'd definitely be the guy that... Well, you started think you could really come around and admit it still mad shake the hand?
00:15:10
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I guess after a while. I don't like owning up to the fact that I'm wrong. i don't like being wrong. so Nobody does. yeah Doesn't matter.
00:15:21
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I didn't have to. I wrote down my comedy still while we're not... We still are not really telling adults about what's going on. Right?
00:15:31
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Like... Because... Mike's mom and dad still don't know who else. Don't you do it.
00:15:39
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yeah I'm just telling you why. I wrote that down on episode. Bad. Oh, we shouldn't tell the adults. Um... who was in a Who was doing research in an encyclopedia or something? Oh, it was Nancy.
00:15:55
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She had done the research about the lions and predators and the sharks. And I guess she had like an encyclopedia in front of her. And I don't remember if we talked about that, but remember that, Scott? Remember when you started to dig up an encyclopedia to like i research stuff? No, I remember them being in school and're on a shelf. As an agent artifact. Yeah.
00:16:18
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And then flipping through it to look for bad words. But other than that, no, I never used it. i was always looking for like cool pictures. Same. I don't remember. Yeah, yeah no, same. That was a joke about the bad words. Yeah.
00:16:33
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That'd be stupid. No, I don't remember her flipping through an encyclopedia. Yeah, it was when she was explaining, they were coming to the realization that, oh, maybe they trick him. the blood thing.
00:16:43
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predator I have notes on that, but I think they're later episode. Yeah. yeah that dead I had a lot of questions. Yeah. In seven and eight, but we'll stick with episode six.
00:16:57
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At some point, she picked a lock with the bobby pin, the old bobby pin picking the lock. Oh, no, it was her mom. Mrs. Wheeler. Yeah. yeah That was gangster. Neither of y'all ever done that? And do you think it really works?
00:17:10
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didn't know was a bobby pin. Or like a hair pin. I don't know. why I was amazed. I was like, what did she pull? had no clue. Oh, really? Yeah. yeah you get Well, it depends on the locks. But if it's those older locks, there's like a little latch in there. You just need the pin to flick it up.
00:17:27
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Yeah. yeah You always have to bend up one end of it. And just. Wow. You guys know that too well. Yeah. Is that a parent thing or is that a kid thing? Well, it's just not a thing. don't think these days. So it was another. No, it meant the reason that you know about it. Oh.
00:17:46
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I did not utilize that skill. I don't think I already utilized it. But I remember thinking, that really work? Because it used to be a thing on all the shows and movies. Yeah. No, I've done it.
00:17:57
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Oh. um they built the scariest contraption possible for her to do her sensory deprivation that tank that they put her in they put like i don't understand why they couldn't have made this palette a little bit less and not need much salt oh right oh the salt i mean less water means less salt right Well, the fact that they put her in... No, no, no. Oh, you mean the real one in the lab? yeah, yeah the lab.
00:18:28
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And the big panel that shuts? Yes. So scary. First of all, this child is in a lab with all these guys in lab coats and scary equipment, and she steps on this rail, and they drop her down and put her in this scuba diving helmet. barely get the thing on her head as she's going down. I'm like, you could have had that on her head. could have done that better.
00:18:47
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And then, you know, it shuts. So she's like... I would be stressed out. yeah i don't understand why they don't think, oh, yeah, she's pretty stressed out. This might not. Because people who experiment on children.
00:19:02
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Does it, though? Because I think we'll talk about later. never really done anything like that. People who experiment on children are likely not considering the aesthetic of where they're performing the experiments. Good point. guess.
00:19:14
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Well, but he knows that she gets stressed out and freaks out and has to stop. So surely he's like, how can we make this more... How can we get her to calm down more?
00:19:27
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Let's think this through. I don't How can we make this feel like torturing guys? little bit better. Can we get a squishmallow for her? If they want results, surely they should be looking into we can get her relax more. The government's all over us. Audits. I mean, we got to do a better job.
00:19:42
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I don't know. Just saying, you know, don't worry. I'm your papa. I just... I had issues with that, but... I think that's a very considerate thought. Well, I just, they're trying to get results and they surely they're thinking, maybe if we make it more relaxing, she'll calm down more and won't have that panic moment.
00:20:02
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And we can get these results that we want, but no, they're just like, you better do it right. Also, although I don't think she remembers ah has not experienced a life outside of that lab.
00:20:13
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So her response to it may be different than a child who'd previously been in a more appropriate environment i don't know i mean but to listen we're talking about experiments on children so i guess all in all it's like well i'm not really an expert is there an answer thumbs down to all of it maybe To change the subject, I enjoyed when Nancy and Jonathan are they're sitting on the bed.
00:20:43
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oh And Nancy goes, I can't believe like a week ago i was with Steve Harrington doing something. And now and Jonathan chirps up and he's like, now you're buying bear traps with Jonathan Byers.
00:21:03
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And she's like, yeah. And he said, what's the weirdest part about that? The bear traps are me. And she goes, definitely you. yeah I don't know if it was bear traps, but that was pretty funny. It was. Because I thought, yeah, you are the weirdest part.
00:21:17
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um Creep. No. Also, shout out to my girl, Nancy, because you know what I'm about to say. Nancy can pull, and good for her. Everybody got a crush on Nancy. All these guys are real concerned about her. I mean, honestly, though, looking at the landscape, I don't know. I mean, she she might be it.
00:21:39
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The only other option was Barbara. mean, you got to get what can get. Oh, God. Okay. Oh, we go. i mean, it's Barbara. Speaking of all that stuff that they bought, I mean, i know it's the 80s, but how old are they? They're like 16, 17? Yeah. Older in high school.
00:21:57
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I don't... I think even back then, you couldn't buy bullets. mean, he bought four the bullets were the clincher. Yeah. All of it was odd. And then he's like, by the way, four boxes of bullets. Yeah. He's sitting there watching them like...
00:22:13
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Who are you kids doing this? Monster hunting. All right, fair enough. Now, that was quintessential 80s, though, and 90s, because I do remember parents were way more hands-off. I mean, can anyone just buy a bear trap?
00:22:26
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That feels like a really dangerous thing to just go buy. That will break your leg. um You know, I don't know that I've ever seen one in a store. Where do you get it? It was just on the shelf.
00:22:38
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The only place I've ever seen it was in the mountains in those, like... Yeah. Stores, like trappers and you know. Amazon. don't think you're going to get one at CBS. You know what I mean? No.
00:22:53
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I don't know. That was alarming. i have um i have like some some real talk notes here if we're ready for them. Let's do it. But I'm going to Google where you buy bear traps while we do this. Yeah.
00:23:08
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So at the end of the episode, Levin
00:23:14
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Goes into her sensory deprivation and she finds the Demogorgon. yeah And um he's like, you know, we want to make contact.
00:23:28
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And she touches it and then cuts back to her and Mike. And she's like, I opened it. The portal. It's my fault. Implying that her touching and making contact with that thing opened a portal.
00:23:43
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where they were at to that other world, right? but We all, we agree with that assessment. That's I understood. You mean literally that location?
00:23:56
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well Is that your point? Well, maybe not specifically, but her touch It happened in the lab. like The portal opened in the lab. She touched that thing and then now there's an open portal to that world in the don't think put the two together that that actually caused it. but She did say that.
00:24:14
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I knew she was blaming herself for the portal being open. Yeah. So that we're all in degree agreement that she opened the portal by touching that thing in her little mind.
00:24:26
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She definitely thinks she did. I don't know if it really did. Well, she has internalized that. And yeah, she's she feels like it's all her fault. Well, also, though, she was there. So surely she knows how it happened. Like I touched it and we didn't see it.
00:24:42
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But she's the only one there that can give us the context to say that's how it happened. I touched it now there's open portal. So think it's fair to say that's what happened. Which raises so many questions for me, starting with the fact that, so if there was no portal open to begin with, right? These are just two separate worlds, if you will.
00:25:06
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Does that mean they were just minding their business? These Demogorgons were just living their life, minding their business. Nobody was bothering them. They were just doing their thing. And then all of sudden, these guys are like, you know what?
00:25:19
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Go touch it. And she's like, but why do we? i don't think we need to. What even is that thing? I don't know. All the more reason to touch it. But they got through. i mean, Nancy got through to the upside down. But that's after the fact.
00:25:35
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The original portal that's in the lab. No, she was in the upside down at the very, in the very beginning of the episode. At the beginning of know, but I'm saying the original portal was open first. Oh, that was a flashback. That's right.
00:25:49
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wow. guess I've been under the impression the whole time they were. Yeah, I was under the impression they were in pursuit of something. Right. but But that's the thing. I don't like we just see her them doing experiments on her having powers and stuff. Right.
00:26:05
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We don't really learn where she gets her powers. And then in her little mind thing where she's like, all I'm going into my mind world. There's a monster in here. What should I do with it?
00:26:17
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Touch it. Touch it. Why? So I know where you're going with this. ah So are the Demogorgons the real victim here? Oh, kind of like, I hate to do it again, but I mean... Polonizers.
00:26:32
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Maybe the Wicked Witch of the West was not the bad person after all. Scott, you said it yourself. You literally just said it. We need the alternate movie from the alternate perspective to understand what made them the way they were. Maybe we're just interpreting them. Scott, you're on to something. I don't know how you're making a comparison. do we even bother them?
00:26:53
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Why do we bother who? The animals? The Demogorgon. The Demogorgon. No, but what is the comparison you're making to Wicked? Well, in Wicked, everybody, you know, in Wizard of Oz, it's like, ew, I hate the Wicked Witch of the West.
00:27:06
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Ew, she's, yeah. this her And then you, I don't want to spoil it, but I mean, you kind of find out maybe she's not as bad as you think. So that- I don't know. we just left him alone.
00:27:18
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The Demogorgians get a that doesn't like a fair comparison. What I'm saying is, regardless whether they were good or bad. If L almost Elphaba. L and Elphaba. Oh, my gosh. This is crazy.
00:27:30
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But if L had never touched it, maybe we wouldn't have this problem. Just leave it be. What they want from that? I agree with that, but I don't think that that's a comparison because it wasn't like someone went said, you're green.
00:27:45
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That's hard to miss. That's hard to, yeah, but she she was were you're different. Let me go mess with you. Well, look what happened. She's already here, though. We can't ignore She's here and she's green. That thing is not even in our world. The only person that can see it is her.
00:28:00
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And it's like, well, just leave it alone. Go find something else. Okay, but also it's the. Quite a stretch. But also it's the government. They don't leave stuff alone. Not ever. Also, I don't know how they know what's in her head.
00:28:13
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When she goes into the like, is she describing it to him? Because we know she's not good with words. I'm glad you actually brought all this up because I've been thinking, wait a minute. Did they know these things?
00:28:26
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Is that was that their whole intent? Right. They just like, oh, gosh, look what she's uncovered. With what we've been led to believe so far. the She has superpowers, right?
00:28:39
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Her mom said... Have we gone to see her mom yet? Nope. It was in this episode, though. I don't think it was. Yeah, it was in this episode. Okay, all right, all right. So we go to see her mom, and she's like... was useless.
00:28:52
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She has powers. right, well, but to be fair... And they're like, what are these powers? No, no, I meant the whole scene. Listen to me, guys. She has powers. And they're like, what?
00:29:03
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That doesn't have anything to do with ah this other world. Like, this baby just has powers. We just know that. And they're like, well, we want it because that's cool. And then in doing so, they're like, wait a minute. There's a whole other dimension.
00:29:18
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But I was almost under the impression they knew that existed and she the to How they have known? Yeah, I couldn't tell. I still don't know. How would they have known? Well, I don't know, but that's what saying. the government, Scott. It's one of those government things where they've figured something out and then they're like... Oh, gosh.
00:29:33
Speaker
What did... i don't think it was this episode, but what did... Oh, the dumb ass dad. What did he say? It's our government, sweetie. It's our government. We trust them. We can trust them. can trust them. They're doing what's best for For a quick second, I really like the dad.
00:29:46
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Ooh. I have so many notes on that guy. so Anyway, I just thought that was crazy. I had another thing here. Well, too, Lucas is still the smart one. Like, what are y'all doing? This is ridiculous.
00:30:01
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At some point he, you know, but also, so when the, when the bullies popped out the knife and they were going to cut Dustin, well, before as they were creeping up on him and he pulled out that knife.
00:30:14
Speaker
I'm like, Wait a minute. What are you about to do? what are you going to do? would Yeah. Were they really going like, what's the plan? I know he's talking about cutting his teeth, but was he originally going to kill him? like was a good yeah Why did you have a knife? Even so, who who's to say this kid has the stomach to cut out Dustin's teeth?
00:30:31
Speaker
Right. Like, what are you about to do, child? I don't think he will. I wanted to call his bluff. I would love to see what you do with that thing. When Mike jumps...
00:30:42
Speaker
That bully kid is just as surprised as anybody. He wasn't planning to crap. Yeah, he wasn't planning to do crap. He's like, oh my God, he did it. He what? And we're thinking, were you not about to do what you said you were going to Exactly. No, he was just talking a bunch of crap. he had no He did not think in a million years he was going to have to back anything he said up.
00:31:02
Speaker
And then they tell him to wet yourself. Can you just do that on command?
00:31:08
Speaker
what well have you ever had to pee in a cup it's the same thing yeah if I were Mike I'd be standing there like okay well you're to give me a second yeah give me a minute and let me over and look at the waterfall or something that's not easy to just do my body knows that I shouldn't do it my body knows I shouldn't be doing this with my clothes on I have to like fight that willpower. Your whole self just clenches up.
00:31:31
Speaker
have to like. It's not right. Punch through and be like, no, no, no I'm, yeah, I'm actually trying right now. and then we got a one word. on We still got the one word talking from Elle.
00:31:43
Speaker
At some point she just says, go. i think it's at the very end and I'm like, ah but I got another note on that in future episodes. One other thing I want to ask y'all when Dustin and Mike are riding their bikes. They're going go try and make up with Lucas.
00:32:02
Speaker
And he's like, he's your best friend. And no, y'all are my best friends too. no you can only have one best friend. Thoughts on that? ah I love that you are on this podcast. I just want to say that because I i made so many notes it. That's how good your hair looks, Shawna.
00:32:19
Speaker
We're just out here. Anyway, hey guys. ah we I literally was like, i have so I have so many thoughts on that very conversation. What are they? Well, she's not going to tell us. that She has a lot. right Well, I didn't know.
00:32:33
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up I can nutshell. I'm curious what yours are, though. going first? Well, asked you first. I think so. ah yeah You think you can have more than one best friend?
00:32:46
Speaker
Totally. in the In the truest sense of the word, I don't. But in the... best friends like i mean but i don't really have friends anyway i hope y'all don't think we're friends please don't misconstrue this situation um i don't even like the the name best friend i mean it's just i don't either yeah think it implies like a weird sense of ownership and i prefer to have different people in my life i don't have them ranked necessarily but like you did at one point that's my space
00:33:17
Speaker
Oh, I have my top eight. I sure did. um Don't get on my nerves. I'll pull you from the top eight. Horse be down. But you know what I mean? Like I have close friends, but I have close friends that I talk to about certain things or do certain things with.
00:33:34
Speaker
Right. And depending on what I'm doing or what kind of conversation I want to have, there's different people that I'll reach out to. I'm really thankful for all of them. I wouldn't categorize...
00:33:45
Speaker
Like, you're my best friend and then no one else can... Like, I just think that concept is yeah weird. Diversify your portfolio and, you know. Nice. Wow. Scott, what do you think?
00:34:01
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Don't be afraid. i just don't think it's that deep. I mean... I mean, again, what ah what is... i don't I don't get the term best friend. i get it. But also, I mean, different people mean different things to me. Yeah.
00:34:16
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So how am I... I'm not ranking, you know... Right.
00:34:21
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is that be like you know who's who's I hate the argument. Who's the best athlete ever? Is it Michael Phelps, Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, LeBron James? Those kind of relative, yeah right? um But it's like, why are we comparing? they They do different things. Why would we compare Tom Brady and Michael Phelps?
00:34:39
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but They accomplish two different things. That's the analogy. That's kind of the friendship thing, too, though, Look what there. Right. So it's like, oh, this my best friend that... But when it just comes to one category, you know who the best is.
00:34:54
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Like, oh like yeah my friend for when we go to the movies, like, that's my go-to. Same thing with sports. Like, okay, best basketball of all time. I mean, you know you know who it is.
00:35:05
Speaker
Right. You don't even need to say you know who it is. Right. You don't even need to say because you know it is. Right. You don't have to say Obviously. So don't say it. I wouldn't. Everybody knows. Any more notes?
00:35:18
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please. By the way, you can get a bear trap at Walmart. No. Online. Are they in the store? I can't go pick up a bear trap from Walmart right now. Are you serious?
00:35:30
Speaker
She's not listening. I am listening. I'm locking back in Because you're right, Charlie. There's um the online. Mm-hmm.
00:35:42
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mean, you get anything from Walmart online. Oh, there was a really funny joke, but it i it wasn't meant to be a joke. When they were looking at the drawing that Hopper had found or seen, and she's like, ah Joyce is thinking, oh, Will draws. Maybe that was where he was. And she goes, was it good?
00:36:03
Speaker
What a funny line, except she really meant it because if it's good, it might really be Will. He's like, it's stick figures, Joyce. I don't... And she goes gets a drawing. Like, look at... Is it like this one?
00:36:16
Speaker
It was almost like she was an art connoisseur. Was it good? Was it good or... I mean, on a scale of one to ten because he's like an eight. So... Was it any good?
00:36:27
Speaker
You can get bear traps. Curbside pickup from Ace Hardware.
00:36:34
Speaker
Ooh. Okay. Okay. That's good to know. I don't even get mole traps. But like, is there an age limit? Like, can I just go pick up one right now? Yeah, that's gotta be... don't know.
00:36:47
Speaker
I know when you mass chat, GPT. Any more thoughts? Unless it's down again. From episode six? That was pretty... i mean, yeah, all my notes were around... Bear traps?
00:37:00
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Nice. And best friends? Charlie? I'm good. No, that's okay. I like, okay, I'm going to actually call it something that Scott had mentioned to me before this episode, but it was funny because the lady who was talking to Nancy after Jonathan had been arrested um was telling her that only love would make somebody do something so crazy, ah like assault an officer, right? And it's cute. and That was cute.
00:37:30
Speaker
But I felt like this was a good note. Scott goes, right. Okay. But not like he wasn't also dogging on his entire family. obviously And I was like, yeah, actually, that's fair. I don't know if we could just chalk that to And sitting there antagonizing him. Like, yeah, your dad's stupid. You're just like him.
00:37:45
Speaker
but Don't even get me started on your crazy mom. Right. He dug into some deep wounds. And then she's like, love will make you do crazy things. Girl, that had nothing to do with her. He's just attacking me personally now. And Jonathan has been listening to that crap for so long.
00:38:01
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Obviously, that's why he beat Steve's face in because it wasn't just about that moment. and would you say I mean, the record, that was a pretty even fight. Oh, yeah. i wrote that down, too. Jonathan whooped He got whooped.
00:38:13
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but Jonathan whooped him. Okay, but it was a pretty even fight to begin with. it but In the very beginning, they traded one to one, then... They traded a lot, which felt so stupid.
00:38:25
Speaker
I hate movie fights because they're always like big punch, bam. Very clean. Respond, bam. And it's like... Dude, what? like And did he assault an officer? The guy just kind of bounced off of him, didn't he? That's right that's a classic. He pushed him or whatever. He read back to punch and elbowed him. Yeah, it was a technicality. Yeah. He's like, yep, nope, that's it.
00:38:47
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Get him. And finally the officer made a funny noise or something. He's like, oh. It was really funny. but Then he goes, so the one guy gets Jonathan and he's like, get get him.
00:39:00
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And he's chasing after and He's come here, you pucks. Yeah.
00:39:05
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That dude's having the time of his life. He just trained his whole life for that moment. Jonathan also did redeem himself a little by the end of this episode. He told that jerk couple to screw off and he went back and helped scrub the sign.
00:39:19
Speaker
You mean Steve. You mean Steve. Oh, I said Jonathan. Sorry. Yeah, Steve. Steve. he He started to make amends by the the end of the episode. We got to give him credit for that. Okay. We don't really know yet. He's a medium okay guy. All right. Well, that'll do it for episode six.
00:39:37
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We are nearing the end. So stay tuned for Charlie Hercom, Sean Fretwell. I am Scott Feltz. We will see you next time. bampa and ben tu