Introduction and Podcast Theme
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to the podcast. The three of you guys. I am Scott Felds. I'm joined by Charlie Harcum. It's me, this guy. And Shawna Fratwell. I like the championship belt in the background of Shawna's video. Very, very Shawna esque.
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Um, so so we're starting. Do you have a belt back there? You
Stranger Things Episode One Focus
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have a, well, I won this trip. Um, this is the first episode of a series on stranger things. We are, we've all seen it up to season three, right? We've seen everything season four. Is it four? Seeing everything. We've all seen everything. seen I've already seen everything it's too much. Um, I know what you're doing. I'm going to move on. Um,
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But we're going to go back and rewatch and go by episode. So today we're going to be talking about episode one, which I did not remember much from when I went back and rewatched it. I thought, okay, wait a minute. I knew the idea of it, but there's a lot that I wasn't thinking about. You know what I
Foreshadowing in Stranger Things
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wondered? And I'm i'm thinking about it again. When did the first episode air? I have no idea. Somebody asked our producer.
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Kevin, do you know when the first episode aired? Look it up. Of Stranger Things? Easy, tiger. um Do we got a Google guy? I'm that guy. We have a Google search.
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Uh, it would be right here, but no, I don't know why y'all are figuring on that out. Uh, so episode one, stranger things. We're going to go through every episode, uh, up to season, whatever is the latest one for, I believe. And then by that time, I believe season five will be out. So that should be exciting. Um, 2016 2016 wonderful. I would first like to start off by saying the there's a There are some things in in like I took a few screen screenwriting classes in college and there's a few things I know roll the eyes There's a few things that are just like weird when you hit them on the nose and I think you were talking about this right before we recorded the Demogorgon
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Right. I i don't. Of course, I don't know if they made that up or if that, you know, but regardless, when they're leaving Will's or Mike's house. Right. And Will was like, you know, he's all the dice land on seven. Is that ah it? Does it count? And they're like, no, I didn't count. lu He didn't see it. Move on. And then we go outside and was like, hey, man, it landed on a seven. So i I totally lost. But he says he says the Demogorgon got me.
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And that feels like a little bit aggressive foreshadowing. ah yeah Two minutes later, not even, it's not like a later on in the episode. It's literally two minutes later, the Tim McGorgon gets it. And it's a little bit like.
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Interestingly, when I watched it, I watched it with someone else that first episode, and that's exactly what we talked about. I said, that is the definition of foreshadowing right there, but not even subtly. It's too on the nose. You know what? i i Now that you say it, I'm like, yeah, it it was. I didn't even pick up on it.
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I was thinking about some other silly stuff going on. I liked it. It was ominous. It was spooky. But I think it's because I was watching it through the lens of already knowing that that's what was going to happen. Well, i so.
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I'm not trying to talk about myself, but when I was in the screenwriting class, I wrote a script. They gave us this prompt. they the The lead has to like kill himself, which felt aggressive, but good grief that I know it was like, man, all right. So my script, you get to the last scene and they're hanging out in this barn and one character was like, hey, I'm going to head out. Do you want to go with me?
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And the guy that stays and he he hangs himself, he's like, no, I'm going to hang out here. Oh, my professor, my professor circled it like a big circle and said, yikes. Wow. But I didn't know it when I wrote it. I was realized, oh, wait, that's terrible. But why does the same person came up with this prompt to get to say yikes now?
Demogorgon and Dungeons & Dragons
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Yikes to the whole idea.
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What do you mean? Oh, oh, yeah, they sign this subject matter and now all of a sudden you're clutching your pearls Yeah, they well they wrote it. You wrote it. I wrote it You wrote that line. I did but I didn't realize in the moment that that was what I had. Oh But maybe they made a big circle subliminally you I just never I thought you're just saying the words and you're just on the nose that much with screenwriting maybe and we should dig into your screenwriting well There are some problems on there were really I have some really gross ones I can show you do we had the counter going on that word by the way, we're up to three prompts I
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Okay, I would counter going prompts. That's it. That's the key word. Okay? Um, can we talk about the word demigorgon yet? Yeah Demigorgon it's demogorgon. Okay That's twice you've corrected me on that. I don't know if I'm gonna get it right. It's not dimmy a Demigorgon like demo Dmo Dmo goron gmo oreggan g and demo Gorgon. Demogorgon. Demogorgon. Okay. So like I had said but before, I don't think I realized that they made that word up. I thought demogorgon was like whatever these things are. I thought it was a real name of what they
Family Dynamics in Stranger Things
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were. And so when they were playing Dungeons and Dragons, I was like, whoa, what, how do you know what it's called?
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I think comes to life later on you guys are gonna be mind alone That exact thing is real. I was so Caught off guard by that. I don't know if I just never picked up on it I'm not going to go into Dungeons and Dragons, but man, we should have a separate some kind of alternate episode about and Dragons. I played in college and I thought it was the best. Granted, my ignorance, I think, made it that much better because I played with a group of people that did know about it. And I don't know. I thought it was great, but.
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I'm sure it was. um Well, I thought it was interesting. the And this actually, Shawna, you might can answer this. This is sort of a question that I had. um A prompt, you might say. Go ahead.
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or I would I'm not gonna I wouldn't say it prompt as a mom though. You might can answer this cuz I don't know I Don't understand it. So when they You know, all right wills lost and I don't know where they were at by the way, they were Jonathan was asleep or he was who he said he was working late and she was out of town or something So neither of them were there when he was working, too. ah Yeah, they're all working. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they were both struggling family and And the next day, right, I wonder if that plays a part in this. The next day, you know, to try to figure out where is he at? And she calls, you know, Mike's mom, who, by the way, you've been playing for 10 hours. I who she cute. Mike's mom does something for me. I don't know what it is, man, but OK. Nice. Stick on that real quick. I'm not saying she does anything for me, but I remember thinking. This woman is like a young
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my mom like It wasn't like the old school, like when they show a mom on TV and it's like. Right. Frumpy mom. Yeah. I pick up on that too, actually. She's gorgeous. And I do not remember that from the first. Yeah, me neither. And I hate the dad, by the way. Why is she such a weirdo? Why is she with him? She could do some. I have that written down. They don't get it at all. He's useless, too. He sits at the table like, come on, man. What did I do? What did I do?
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I'm trying to remember if something else not cool happens with him later. But to
Character Introductions: Jim Hopper
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get back to my point. So yeah, she calls up, you know, Mrs. Wheeler and she's like, hey, did you know his will still there to hear him? She's like, no, did he not come home? And she changes gears real quick. And she's like, oh, no, he probably I think he left to go to school early. Yep. And then the next it's not like she really thinks it because the next scene she's at the police station.
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So I'm wondering, like, is there a little bit of, like, embarrassment there? Like, Oh, totally. You don't know where your kid is. That's literally your number one job is to know where your kid is. And she's a working mom. She's juggling a lot of things. And this one slips through the cracks. And then, yeah, you would totally play that off. Because at that point, you don't know that he's gone gone. I feel like though, is there not a level of like, my kid's gone, okay? I'll be embarrassed. Forget about embarrassment. But like, I'm not trying to say. don't know what I'm saying at that point. Kids are kids, they do squirrely things. And so at this point, it's too early. For all she knows, he's gonna come busting in the back door cause he was out back dinking around. Like she doesn't know, she's trying to be cool. She's trying not to freak herself out. um I don't know. All right. I mean, I just felt like, okay, that was weird.
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If it were 2024, I think you'd probably freak out a lot. that There might be a, but to what we were saying about the family, you know, they definitely look like they're a struggling family. Dad's not there, whatever. She's probably already getting judged anyway. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. There's probably already some history of Oh, gosh, their buyers are at it again. And right no now she doesn't know where she's got baby daddy drama. She seems really nice, though, like she wouldn't be judging her for like sure she seems genuinely worried. Did he not come home? Right. do We need to do something. But she's probably like that family's got it all put together. And here I am. I lost my kid. OK. All right. Well, I think it was just embarrassment. All right. Fair enough. Well, what about the
Small-Town Dynamics and 1980s Culture
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love him. Because for me, what the mom says. Oh, really? Oh, I love him. Even though even like the whole setup where he's got like this. Yeah, I missed that whole little dramatic. I think yes it's a little bit like there's a lot of open beer cans in there. They're like, oh, what can we put in this? You know, the pill bottle. him I can fix him.
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Oh, man. Yeah, that ham sandwich or something. mean What do you think? OK, so so you you know, you and Hopper go on a few dates and then you go to his house and that's what you walk in on. Does that change anything? Oh, that's got to change something. Yeah, no, you yeah you would hope that he know. it' Yeah, no, look he's cute. You know what I mean? He's cute, but that doesn't mean you want to necessarily get back deep in this situation. Okay. well Well, so what I was going to say, they it doesn't even pertain to him really, but he comes in the office, obviously small town, right? They don't normally have any issues. The secretary, I don't know what her name was, Debra, Flo, was it Flo?
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born of woa it's slow i heard he He keeps a diary and he mentions her name a lot. I've read a few pages I've heard. yeah ah Flow, um I wonder if this is in there. So she gives him the rundown, right? Hey, so blah, blah, blah. She mentioned, she's like, so, you know, Jill called whoever, you know, the kids are stealing her garden gnomes again.
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that some kids are stealing the gnomes out of his garden. Oh, those garden gnomes again. And he's like, okay, yeah, lost the garden gnomes. Oh, also, in more sudden, urgent news, ah Joyce Byers, her son's missing. On a more pressing matter, Joyce Byers can't find her son this morning. Wait a minute! Wait, is that not the opening line?
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You have two things to report to me. She was building up. She could tell he was a low hungover. What's our expectation level of flow? Because my bar would be real low for her. She's just she's going through the motions. She's never seen any different. I mean, I feel like, you know.
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You're setting him up to not care. Hey, so garden gnomes missing again, Joyce Byers son is lost, you know, nothing crazy. Can I get your lunch order? Right. If it were like, hey, you're walking in the door, but you need to know someone's kid is missing. They called. I just feel like, I mean, I don't blame him for like, because he just blew it off. Like, whatever. But again, I think it's that same idea that like,
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Kids are kids. They do squirrely things. We just don't know yet that it's a full blown emergency. He's really gone. Well, but she called the cops so they have to treat it like, OK, well. And it was probably just to harken back to your screenwriter days. There's a little bit of exposition there, right? Like we're reinforcing that nothing exciting happens in Hawkins which and something very significant is going to. but But we want to make sure, you know, these are just plain folk.
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ah This is where I would argue, though, you don't need to do that. I can pick. I've already brought up on it. Yeah, that's quintessential, though. How many times have you seen that done? Small town, you know, and it's like, OK, I mean, I him walking in and then joking and like, obviously nothing goes on. There's only two cops apart from him. And they're playing cards. Right. I can pick up on that. You don't need to tell me, Jill, whoever's garden gnomes are missing again.
Character Tropes and Realism
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one ah One other thing real real quick. Pause right there. I want to go back to the wheelers just super, super fast. Yeah, please. Okay, it's 1983. I may or may not have been around then. five Good year. Was it 85? It's 83. Okay. um You know. Oh, I got nice. So it it's a Monday morning. They're all sitting around the breakfast table, the table eating breakfast before they go to school.
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Quiet. Is that a reality, dude? Oh, I mean, even in the 80s, I don't I wanted to ask that. that But actually, actually, um it could be. It can be.
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my kid, we totally did that with my kids when they were younger. And now that they're older and running all over the place, it's like, listen, here's a bagel, right? Take it as you're going out the door. But I guess Nancy, or what's what's the mom, whatever mom, she probably not working. So maybe that's just her thing to like,
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She yeah, she got time. Anyway, I just thought, oh, look at them sitting around the table and they're all dressed and ready to run out. Oh, yeah. I don't like it because it it's it's a classic. well I can't think of the movie I'm thinking of where they make this whole spread for breakfast. Yeah. The dad comes down. He's like, oh, I'm late, grabs a piece of toast and bounces. And I'm like, wait a second. so What are you going to do with all of this now? What was the point of that?
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Actually, I'll take it a step further and say, I don't think it's so weird that everybody sits down to eat real quick. I think it's what's on the table. If you're having oatmeal real fast, I could believe we're going to sit down and have our oatmeal for 10 minutes together. But when you're talking about bacon and eggs and toast and pancakes, all right, be so for real. There's always a stack of pancakes. There's always a stack of pancakes. I'm gonna argue she definitely doesn't have a day job if she's got the time to get up. If she does, she's super mom. If she does, she's that much better. Oh boy. Wow. Okay. That one's just saying that level. She gets up at 3am to do her hair before she starts the pancakes. Okay, last thing on Hopper and his morning, you know, he wakes up, he's late. Hopper's got a pad, like, or he's got a prime location.
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His guy he walks out on that porch and he's on yeah the river, the lake, or whatever. chief scholar He's got a bachelor bed there, so that is another check mark for him. Oh, he's quintessential bachelor. Oh, yeah. It's just, he just needs to clean up. But you hear later on that his daughter died, and so obviously- Right, he's going through something. He's not just a gross person. He's breathing. That's right. He's a broken man. Never got past his grief.
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We learned a lot of, we yeah, a lot of character building in the first 10 minutes. yeah really We're judging these families and individuals already. Okay, good. Look at it, we already have enough to say, all right. um One, Steve, his whole situation, I don't, he's great, right? Cool dude, he's the cool guy, but I love Steve. I love Steve now, but Steve then,
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Like the first episode and so on. I'm trying to remember when do we grow to like, not like Steve Moore. I mean, I know he's already like, oh, maybe not an awesome some guy, but I can't remember. Episode two and three get into like, you know, he starts to redeem himself. He's so generic in the beginning.
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Well, two and three is where he really leans into the douchebag. Okay. That's what I'm trying to remember is when, what does he do that makes us be like, Oh, come on. We don't want to get into too much of it. We don't want to act like we've already seen all of it, but you know, you know, the whole thing with Jonathan and he kind of, you know, bullies him a little bit and bit a lot of it. So there's that got a very specific note on Jonathan. Have y'all seen the movie? What's eating Gilbert grape?
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Yes. No. And the character that Leonardo da Vinci. DiCaprio. DiCaprio. I'm good with names. Barney. Mm hmm. Jonathan reminds me so much of Arnie. That's fair. Yeah, and I'm like there. I could see that he pretended like in the beginning. I thought something was up with Jonathan. Like it's got a little extra. Carmazon or something. Right. Right. Because I was thinking of Arnie. He's off kilter. Yeah. Yeah.
Chef's Reaction to Eleven
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we should We should check that movie out sometime down the road. Scott, write that down. Write that down. Write that down as a movie person. See that movie.
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Well, I just feel like, I mean, you know, he, he, Steve is brave because he just rolled up to her house after hearing she could, and just climb, just chose a window. I were assuming he knows what window. That's another one I wrote down. Like, i did that ever, did that really happen too? I never climbed in anybody's window, but it happens all the time in movies.
00:19:21
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Right. Never. You wonder if it's like, are there people out there that were doing this or? Right. You considered there was no wrong answer. Well, we either get Nancy's room or you get the hot mom one way or another. You're in somebody's window.
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oh Okay, but what's bad that's actually and dad obviously doesn't care right tacked out to light Well, we find out later on in the next seasons that she's wildly open to that um But I can't wait. I don't remember that. Okay. I don't remember that I don't I don't remember anything Billy and we'll get into it oh billy Anyway, maybe not, maybe not, maybe not. Oh, I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, so what got me with the whole, like, is this real thing? We're the bullies at the school. Step right up, ladies and gentlemen. Step right up and get your tickets for the freak show. Hold you a million times. My teeth are coming in. And I remember
00:20:16
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Making a tiktok video on this before because the bully later on in like season three four and they're at the skating ring thing and the bullies are like Extra to the point. I'm like, I don't I'm not buying that I have never experienced it myself and maybe it's real maybe they are but it was obnoxious write a good bully though, I mean, I don't think they can well-written bully and I mean, these kids are like, you know, they just roll up, right? They just stand there and like, oh, what does Johnny have to say? Go ahead, Johnny. Dish out your lines. Yeah. Trip me as I walk away. hey and I think there's a lot of those ah cliches and definitely in this first episode that they're just like.
00:20:58
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Okay, these are the kids that get bullied here I think that's intentional because they really are trying to make this authentically and that's one of the first things I noticed about this show the first time around that I watched it was how authentically it felt like an 80s movie and So I think were they being bullied like that in the 80s? I I don't think it matters. I think that it needs to line up with the 80s movies you've seen prior because it gives you that feeling. I'll jump right out of the gate. That's part of my life. I wrote down, this is definitely the 1980s for a lot of reasons. Well, so I agree with you that that's probably what they're thinking is like, oh, well, this is what we know about 80s movies and whatnot. I don't like it.
00:21:36
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because of the fact that okay but don't just give me what all the other movies get if this didn't happen or if you have a better way of writing bullies do it because this is poor but all the other movies did it sure but they suck too but the story is so good it's like you're gonna love the show regardless yeah this piece is what like hits that nostalgia oh but we needed this yeah i think the bullies come back later right so we Yeah, well and even if they do it could have been any bully, but yeah, I mean I guess the idea of being like hey by the way These are losers, but I mean when they get all excited about the CB radio When they were playing Dungeons and Dragons or the ham radio, and we were picking up all right but you yeah anybody that plays that you know, you're already suspicious of yeah. Yikes. What a um, I I don't know about when ah I don't I don't know if it's
00:22:30
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weird to you guys, but the chef, when 11 rolls up and is eating the fries in his kitchen, right, and he loses mine, and he's yelling, ah and he catches her, and then, you know, but then he, next thing you know, he's sitting down with her table, and he's, I'm like, okay, but wait a minute, though, a child just rolled into your restaurant in a hospital gown, and you're just gonna make her a burger, and be like, so what's going on with you? Wait a minute,
Gender Assumptions about Eleven
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There's a road down. Why did he call child protection services or human services? Why didn't he call the police? Right. They don't got much to do. Call the police. Hey, I thought that was weird. I just felt i felt like, you know, as we see the double agent comes in later, if if he had called the police, it would have been Hopper, one of the two guys. So they had no way of.
00:23:30
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having the, the, the, the lady who shows up, you know, and she's not really the human health and human services, whatever. I guess that's the only reason, but why? Yeah. but Why would you not be calling the police? yeah I mean, if it helps supply, obviously it's convenient, but I'm arguing the fact that like, okay, what, who is really going to find a child in the restaurant and be like, all right, for a call 911, let me each sit down and you're obviously hungry. and Let me get some info out of you. You're treating like a dog.
00:23:57
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they It would be nice to her. i Hey, really but did y'all know it was a girl? If you were watching this for the first time, i I'm honest. The first ten i remember two or three episodes, I still thought it was a boy. She's so young. I mean, she's at the point where he calls her girl, even though they say it's a girl. You just didn't believe it. You're like, no, it's definitely a boy. I actually thought it was going to be a weird like plot twist. ah It's not a girl, it's a boy, something like that. and I would feel like a double down, like, oh, they mistakenly think it's a boy, but then they're like, oh, no, it's a girl. Oh, no, it really was a boy. as That's extra. Oh, we see her cut the fan off, whatever, with her mind early. I don't remember that either. Yeah. Like while she's sitting in there and that's how we, and you know, obviously we know something's up with her.
00:24:50
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But I just, well, when he calls the cops to go back to the chef, or whoever he calls, assuming it's- Human services, child protection. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, he you know, he's like, yeah, I don't know, shouldn't have a collar, just a stray, I don't know, you know. um Yeah, it'd be great if someone would come by, that'd be awesome. Yeah, obviously, that's the only reason I'm calling.
00:25:11
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Later on, it's referenced that Benny, Benny is the chef's name, and he and Hopper are friends. he Like Hopper says, he's like, that's that's my friend. So it's also interesting that he wouldn't just jump um in with his buddy and be like, dude, you got to come down here. There's a kid sitting in my kitchen. I think you might be a few episodes ahead, though. I don't i don't know. I don't think Hopper knows yet in episode one. Well, but OK. Yeah.
00:25:36
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Fair enough um ah hang on root super super fast go for it. I don't remember the Very and actually, I mean, I guess there's undertones throughout all the seasons, but I don't remember the early reference to You know ah Joyce was talking about how wheels getting picked on and yeah, they call him They question his sexuality and that kind of stuff calm gay. I and he's like busy Right and I thought that was a little weird. I know that was the 80s and that was very different back then. But he's a child. So it's just a weird question to ask. Yeah. paul and I thought it was very strange. It was very gay. Well, is he gay? I mean, maybe they're right. I don't. Yeah, I don't know. That was just odd to me. I didn't want to let that. I think that's the 80s thing, maybe like.
00:26:30
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Obviously, that was a lot different in the 80s than it is now. Right. I i would not dare ask now. Well, they call him gay. OK. Say less. Got it. But I wouldn't also ask someone if they're like 11 year old kid was heterosexual either. I wouldn't ask.
00:26:48
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Yeah, I kid sexuality period because that's weird. Well, and he knows he's ah he's a guy he's lived through that time period where gay is just an insult. And so he knows that that's how it's used. And so it's not like a. I don't know. Yeah, he's a little rough around the edges.
00:27:06
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He is. He is. You got a lot of work to do, Sean. He's rough around me. I don't know. I feel like, I mean, with Mike's mom, it's teed up. I mean, she's already looking for a ah ah way out. Yeah, you're the one who's got to step up.
00:27:22
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I can't wait till we get to that season with Billy, and because ah I'm telling you, immediately she's like, this is it. I forgot it was her. I forgot it was her, until you said that. But it was at the very- I think you told this very moment. See, now y'all are spoilers. We're not supposed to talk about it, but it was it was the very like the end of season two, I think it was, and he rolls up to her house, and you get this like idea of, oh, she's into this.
00:27:47
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I remember it because I was in college with with my roommate, Ricky, and we adored Mike's mom. Wow. And
80s Horror and Scary Techniques
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we were like, you know what? Yes, Billy. Go for it. Because this dude has got no... Give her what she's looking for. um Dad's not getting it done. Would you? When do they watch Poltergeist? Sorry. wait ah they watch they They talk about watching Poltergeist. I can't remember who it was that even watched it.
00:28:16
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And somebody's like, no, that'll give you nightmares. Oh, that was a flashback of ah Joyce was in Will's Little High. That's right. Oh, so that that scene wrecked me, by the way. I can't. when Anyway, the movie Poltergeist. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying the movie Poltergeist.
00:28:42
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I probably watched it around that time frame. It was probably a few years ago. Oh my gosh. That movie, I can't, I can watch it now, but that movie terrorized me. There's some a few things in there. Was that your first scary movie? Yeah, I think so. And I was like, I shouldn't be watching this. We were at somebody else's house.
00:29:05
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And I'm like, okay, I know mom and daddy would not be okay with me watching this. You were like, I don't need to be watching this. i'm And I'm like trying to pretend like I'm doing other stuff because I was scared. Not only because I was watching because, but also the movie was scaring me. So when you're with your friends, you got to act not scared. I know. And I'm like, but I am. Which adds a layer of intensity. I was pretending to be pretending to be pretending to be a person.
00:29:34
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So that's two movies now, Scott, you need to watch. Noted in the original. day guys for Sure. Well, you don't like scary movies. I don't. This one's going to kill you. I've seen a few. And actually, I just I was talking to somebody from work the other day. Did you know and this is way off topic, but did you know that 90 percent that I'm making that number up, the majority of scary movie jump scares happen from the right side of the screen? Yes. Because that's where you expect action to happen. Or you don't expect it. Because your eyes read left to right. You're left to right. But see, I'm left-handed, so I'm right to left. You don't read right to left. I never jump scare. It's amazing. It's amazing. Joe is fine that you're watching that.
Fear and Friendship Dynamics
00:30:21
Speaker
I just talk to a different lens. He's ridiculous. That's my left-handedness.
00:30:25
Speaker
Oh, would you rather, um, would you rather be lost, like be the person, like be will, or be one of the friends that that lost him? This feels like a one-sided thing, but if it were like, obviously for a kid, I feel like you would say, well, I would rather be me than my child. That's a different level of fear. I don't know. I don't have a kid, so.
00:30:54
Speaker
um I'd rather be the person lost because I would least be in the person that's not lost you got so many questions and it's so many unanswered it's like an annoyance yeah so many questions I just don't know if you are the one lost I mean you at least know what the sexual want to solve this right now I don't have time for this there's a bloody handprint on the couch does anyone know I don't want to do this Yeah, cause see, I'm going friend. I don't know. I don't want to be will in the upside down and the Demogorgon. No, thank you. Yeah. Knowing what he's going through.
Byers Family Dynamics and Childhood Adventure
00:31:31
Speaker
Maybe it's like, I think I now like does it turn out to be that bad. I don't we don't know. yeah Seems pretty bad. It turns out bad for someone else, but I don't know her later. I can't wait. ah Barb makes me feel like a bad person.
00:31:49
Speaker
I got a little bit annoyed when so as they started searching by the way, I kept waiting for the point in the show where it's like Why are y'all just sitting around y'all aren't out looking like I felt like they did a good job of always be looking like hey This is still pretty important There was a period of time when they're in there writing out the signs and but she was on the phone trying to get people but I I was a little when they go and find and look at Castle Byers, the little thing he's built out in the woods. I was thinking, hey, we're like 12 hours into this thing. I feel like you probably should have already looked at. Yeah. Now, they kind of looked at it once earlier and she was going back. It occurred to her later. It occurred to her later, though, which is interesting. Yeah. Because, you know, you know where your kid likes to hang out. Right.
00:32:43
Speaker
That's a cool little fort there, right? Oh, God. like it Shows and movies always have the coolest forts. Yeah, I totally hang out there all the time. In the woods, maybe. and I'm a little nervous, but... Not a woods guy? Well, at that age. Especially when there's demigorgons. Oh, heck yeah, are you kidding? Demigorgons out and about. The woods is where it's at when you're a kid. No parents. You're just out there.
00:33:08
Speaker
My siblings and I used to, like, we had a game we played called Orphan Kids. Oh my gosh. We did it. I love to see the rules of that game. Geez. What is this? Oh, it was epic. We loved it. It always started in our unfinished basement and it always ended with us in the woods with our dog, who was a wolf in that scenario. What is the objective of the game? It was a survival game. so what's What are you surviving? What's the game? Oh, you have no parents. We were orphans and we were thugging it out in the woods. We played it all the time. We would build forts and like. So you would pretend you're orphans. Yeah.
00:33:49
Speaker
we we want us to be orfits We are so rich and have everything we need and all this food that we don't. We, I'm telling you, we were in the woods all the time. Man, do your parents know that you wanted to be orphaned so much that you played a game called Orphan?
00:34:10
Speaker
Listen, there were so many of us, I'm the oldest of six. My mom was like, get out. Get out of this house. I mean, we played in the woods. The orphans, if you need to be, go somewhere. But I don't know if we pretended that like, this is our life. We have no parents now. We sure did. We had some very cool forts.
00:34:32
Speaker
Well, okay, not not to a step away from that. But that reminds me, he' speaking of the woods, you know, Hopper finds his bike. And I think you mentioned this before. Hopper finds his bike on the side of the road. And what does he say? He's like, you know, we wouldn't just leave this. This thing is like a Cadillac to these kids. Okay,
Hopper's Detective Instincts
00:34:51
Speaker
why did he leave it? Was he that scared? Right. Or the other thing I'm thinking is,
00:34:58
Speaker
ah Thought as soon as he found it well two things one dumb thing, but one serious the dumb thing is I don't remember cool headlight lamp things for bikes back then. I was going to ask about that. That was high tech. I mean, i'm obviously, it's battery power. But but also, he I was a little mad because I'm like, why didn't I have one of those? Yeah. How did I not get in on that? Yeah. He was a nerd. For the record, i was on I was not riding a bike in 1983. I think. What were you doing in 1983? I mean, I was
00:35:31
Speaker
crawling around. Not really. I was walking, but well I wasn't riding a bike, but I was a little upset that I didn't know about these headlights. The other thing was, how did he know that was Will's bike? Bike like this, like a Cadillac of these kids would have walked in, huh? I feel like that's a... I guess it was... I just didn't like this, like, bang. Here we go.
00:35:54
Speaker
I guess maybe i think it towards that. Well, because okay. The buyers, they lived a little off the beaten. They weren't in the burbs. They were, you know, they were in the trailer park. Yep. They were headed towards his house. why don't so How did he have that nice of a bike?
00:36:13
Speaker
i was catalyzed mr president Yeah, maybe Joyce and Jonathan worked those extra shifts. But I think Hopper definitely was like, all right, there's a kid missing. Here's a bike. I'll put one or two together myself.
Dr. Brenner's Role and Impact
00:36:25
Speaker
He goes really hard on the detective mode, though. Like he kicks into gear but because he was investigator here is a big city cop before he came to Tiny Town, USA. And I think he was a part of me that's thinking,
00:36:40
Speaker
Man, I'd love to do a good job for Joyce. and if you know what i mean they love joyce i'm team joyce oh were there yeah and why noah writers and i i've totally got a thing joy at bull i don't think we're I don't think we're there yet with him because he was, when she was telling him in the station, hey, this is what's going on, and he's like,
00:37:01
Speaker
90% of the time, 99 out of 100 times he's with the other parent. Like, it's not a big deal. You need to relax. Your kid's going, Oh, they were kind of him though annoying with that. The whole call the dad thing, the deadbeat absent dad, who's like 80s, though, you know, a million miles away. And now all of a sudden, like this man's been involved in nothing. lonie this lonie e Lonnie, F and Lonnie. And do we we eventually see Lonnie?
00:37:28
Speaker
I don't know. We get we get a little more Lonnie. We do, but I don't think I'm allowed to talk about it. Yeah, okay. Yeah, not yet. We don't. Oh yeah, I think hot a piece of Hopper was like, oh, Joyce, I haven't seen you in a while. so yeah I mean, not that they have a thing, but, you know, his ex-husband, you say. Yeah, of course.
00:37:47
Speaker
Let me find your kid. I think I will go look for old Will. I'll do my job. Yeah. Probably have some late nights in the woods with Joyce. Who knows? I think you might be over here. Me and Joyce will go look. Yeah. We need to build a campfire over here. It's good to take a while. It takes a little small liquor out here.
00:38:05
Speaker
I tell you, there's plenty of this out there of choice. A grieving woman with a missing child. I don't think he would in an opportune time. I think it's a cliche in movies, though. You're like, y'all do not have time to be doing that. You're chasing a murderer or whatever they're doing. The whole entire situation happened. There are demogorgons out here, and we know those are real. Those are real things. It's just coincidence that those kids were also talking about in their game, but they're totally real.
Film Tropes and Realism
00:38:35
Speaker
y'all think of the guy who's I meant to Google it? The the guy who plays the the main ah the white haired dude from the lab. Oh, ah Papa. Yeah. Well, what's what's the actor's name? You know, that's all Matthew Modine. OK. He.
00:38:56
Speaker
When when you he's a little bit jarring when he first comes on screen at least it is for me because i'm like I know that guy from like 10 different movies and he's just a little bit like he's in full metal jacket that was a long i'm good but I remember thinking That's jarring it's something about him. It just caught me off guard. It took me out Like I couldn't quit thinking about the actor. It's funny. That didn't happen really well, though Yeah, yeah, no, he's good really well He's good Papa. Shane called him Papa, yet. Yeah, I've never seen him in anything else. Matthew Madine. Yeah, look at him. He seems old, so maybe that's why. Maybe. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. I mean, well. I mean, his hair is white. for those That's your third. That's your third movie to watch Full Metal Jacket. For those listening, you got a little bit of gray on your beards. Just for context. Wow. Is that by design? Touch of gray. Mm hmm.
00:39:52
Speaker
Nice. It looks good on you. Looks good in the 80s. Too bad it's the, what do they say? That's a classic, like, dads, they get trapped in one time period and then that's just how they dress for the rest of their life. Not me. 2000. Boom. That's it for the rest of your life. The New Balance shoes for sure. Yeah. Oh man. My old shoes. My old shoes. Oh, one other, one other. Go ahead.
00:40:21
Speaker
Me? I was just just gonna say, yeah, go ahead. I was just gonna say my old boss did that. You said go ahead, but go ahead and continue. Yeah, it was just... One other movie TV trope, but they have no way of getting around this. Yeah. I can't stand when we see a 555 phone number. It drives me crazy. It's just such an off-putting like, ugh.
00:40:46
Speaker
Okay, I know you can't show real numbers up here. and Immediately fake. You know what I'm talking about, right? Okay, woof. yeah You almost scared me there. Don't ever put real phone numbers in your screen place. Sure. It's always jarring. it make script i mean nobody's Man, the prop guy had to go through a lot of trouble to make this fake news newspaper article, but to put in 555 numbers in it, ugh. Ruined the whole thing. He just credited everything else. It just takes me out of the Just don't show me the phone number. i don't You don't need to show it. I think that's fair actually. That's a fair assessment. And when they show them typing in numbers on a phone, if they show it long enough, they have to yeah be pushing 555. It drives me crazy. Anyway, for any screenwriters out there, don't do fuck we're giving great feedback. Just don't do the things that we don't like and it'll be good. Well, what would you do instead? Could you do like one, two, three, four? is that Well, you don't have to show the whole phone number. just
00:41:43
Speaker
Oh, just show part of it. But then it's like, oh, you can't show us. Or just show them flipping through a book and they're sliding their hand down and they're looking for a phone number. I don't know. What would you do? Just give them your phone number and just assume no one cares that much. call phone number be the universe How many people are actually stopping to call it?
00:42:04
Speaker
Oh, I mean, people watching. How many of them are like, Oh, I think it happened a ton. Oh, yeah. And that's why they had to change it. Back in the day. Oh, yeah. That's the first thing you would do. Let me just dial that number. Yeah. Prank calls were a big deal. They were a lifestyle back in the day. That's what they were doing when they were playing orphan. All right. Well, to move on here, we've got a horoscopes with Shauna.
00:42:28
Speaker
Shawn is going to give us her understanding of what the horoscopes of all these characters are in the first episode. um This was we should put up a poll that says horoscopes fake or real. So no, no, that's interesting to see where people are at, you know. Yeah.
00:42:48
Speaker
But then you've got to use the correct terminology. It's not just horoscopes, it's astrology, my friends. Oh, my apologies. um this is This is a zodiac sign, right? that's what That is correct all the same. Correct. Same umbrella. um This is an intimidating assignment, however, because there's a real demographic for this conversation.
00:43:09
Speaker
And there's a lot of deep dives that have been done many times over not only for these characters, but characters across the board. Right. People take these assessments very seriously. Well, to your defense. I mean, it's the first episode. And what but what will we do another day? We're talking about echoes other day.
00:43:28
Speaker
You know, and you were very on the nose about, oh, I don't like her, she's doing this. And then a few lines later, it was like, oh, well, she's just trying to defend. Okay, that's cool. So it's very like, I mean, once you learn more, you're like, oh, that's completely different than what I thought. But that's kind of the point of the film, right? So. That's also how it works in my head. Perfect. Well, go for it then. We're not judging you, obviously. No.
00:43:55
Speaker
Internally, maybe, but not out loud. Right. I was going to say, what do you mean? If you get them wrong, we would have no idea. um but And that's the thing, though. I don't know that it's necessarily I don't know if you can say it's right or wrong based just off the characters. You could off the actors, but I don't know that we go over birth dates for everybody.
00:44:13
Speaker
in the show. Well, yeah, I mean, you definitely don't know based on the birthday. It's just like, oh, so that's the fun in the speculation is you're going purely off personality traits and characteristics. Well, but that's that's where it's proven though, right? If you knew the birthday, you'd easily say, oh, well, that's this because careful.
00:44:30
Speaker
But it's one of those like, all right, well, now you got to step up to the plate, you know, right this is based off of your, but to be fair, I don't know that we ever find out what the birthdays are. I was going to say, if we ever do come across a birthday, we need to make note of that and see if these horoscopes are accurate. No, there's, if you Google it, there's plenty of people that have offered up their assessment, but for factual,
00:44:56
Speaker
Zodiac sign just well in this case go ahead. What do you all right? So I just did the The main cast that were introduced to in the first episode episode um Mike for starters I immediately said Aries he's a fire sign He's the leader
00:45:20
Speaker
I'm sorry. No, you can't. I just, the thing is when you say Aries, like I have no, kind right what right i'm like okay. Okay. it Sounds right. Maybe we'll learn though. Go ahead Aries. Okay. ok So like leader, you were. So an Aries. So you've got, I feel like I have to, like y'all need like a breakdown of the Zodiac. Like what it, well, just Aries because of your Zodiac sign, there's different elements.
00:45:45
Speaker
So, actually, I know what Scott's zodiac sign is. Charlie, what's yours? Do you know yours? I can tell you his birthday. I hope so. Wait, you know yourre so your... You know your zodiac sign. It's okay for me. I know what somebody who...
00:46:02
Speaker
leave and those things you know what my which what is i a leo I'm a Leo. yeah Leo. Nice. Okay. ah Does that seem like him? Is that right? I don't i you know. I don't know. I don't know that I know enough about your like day to day interactions to specular. Let's do this. What is a Leo? And then I'll tell you if it's accurate. Okay. Give me a brief summary. Leo is a fire sign. Now my sister's a Leo. Um, she will not be told.
00:46:28
Speaker
She will not be told. She's very much herself. She's going to do her thing. She has a strong personality. um
00:46:38
Speaker
The Leo is associated with a lion, so they're very creed ah courageous, ah deeply convicted. They have convictions. They stand by.
00:46:50
Speaker
Can I just say this is and not to not to wow for the sake of easy careful hating on astrology or whatever, but that is not Chuck Chuck is ah He will go with whatever you challenge him on something and he'll just roll over. You know what? That's fine Yeah, it's not a rollover. It's a, okay, whatever. It's not worth much, right? Yeah, yeah. But it's not about all the things. It's about what you care about. Oh, fair enough. Because people let stuff go because they just don't care. It's not that deep to them. Yes, guys. It's about the things you care about. All right, fair enough. Hashtag Leah. Okay, so Mike is an Aries. He's a leader. I'm going Aries. He's a fire sign. Okay. When you say fire sign, is that part of it?
00:47:32
Speaker
Yes. but he like like Also, Leo's fire sign. What does the fire have to do with it? It's the element been assigned to that. But is there any like context to it? Does it add anything? Oh, absolutely. So fire signs are very strong, passionate. areas Okay. Aries in particular prone to a little bit of a temper. Okay. It seems like Mike. Okay. Mike is Aries. That's what I went with. Yes.
00:48:01
Speaker
From what we know from episode one. From episode one. we we We'll regroup. Yeah, we'll reassess. Well, yeah. Go ahead. So next. But he's the leader of the pack in the meantime. Will is a cancer. well ah Cancer is a ah water sign.
00:48:17
Speaker
so um Very emotional. Will was a sensitive little dude. All up in his feels. We don't necessarily see this in episode one with his character, but cancers do tend to be a little bit in the the realm of self-pity.
00:48:37
Speaker
Um, and they just tend to be a little squishy on the inside. He seems re-wallowing in something. Yeah. There's just a little, and listen, a lot of people I know and love in my life are cancers, but they're pretty consistent with some of that. Um, so that was my assessment for him. Uh, Dustin, I went with Gemini, which is an air sign. Hmm.
00:49:01
Speaker
um He is definitely, I wouldn't, I mean, he's not the class clown necessarily, but he's very social. um He's a little, everyone else is very rigid.
00:49:17
Speaker
Everybody loves Dustin. He's great. i do he is He's not embarrassed by anything, right? Air signs are built a little different. and He's built a little different. He's built a little different. But it's not his fault. He says teeth are still coming in. Right. They're still coming in. Exactly. kind now and But he's a little, you know, yeah, he's a little different from the rest of the group and he's a little more fluid and a little more detached and kind of in his own world. ah So I went with... He you might say he's the kind of guy that would meet a girl online. Hint, hint. Spoiler alert. I mean, there is no online, but okay.
00:49:57
Speaker
You might have nailed that one. um Maybe. um Lucas, I like Lucas. I just want to say that. I like Lucas. I went with Scorpio for him. Scorpios are, shoot, I think they're earth signs. maybe they're I can't remember now. Scorpios are very skeptical people.
00:50:19
Speaker
And. I'm a Scorpio in this moment. I'm skeptical about your. Hmm. If. side You can do better. You better be careful. Go ahead. Go ahead. He's a Scorpio. I'm a Scorpio. What is earth sign? Earth sign? You're an earth sign. They're very grounded.
00:50:40
Speaker
Is that right or is he just said that as like a whatever? No, actually yeah earth signs are they're very um Rigid is one word you could use. Okay and But They're Scorpio specifically, they're very passionate, but they're also very skeptical and they're very independent and Okay, and so that's what I gave to Lucas. That's fair because my man he had questions He was buying none of it
00:51:09
Speaker
11, I assigned her Pisces, which is a water sign so much like cancer, a little bit in their feels. Pisces, they get in their heads. 11 was obviously very much in her head. That seems fair. They're also very intuitive and very creative.
00:51:29
Speaker
Oh, okay. ah So we went well, I think she's a lab experiment. So right. She's basically rocket wrecking, but that's a pretty clear. Oh, that was um harsh.
00:51:43
Speaker
But we love rocket, right? He's great. I love him and make you cry. Don't make me cry. I said two, one. Okay. Keep going. I just said one made me cry. Um, Steve.
00:51:58
Speaker
I gave Steve a Leo. Steve is awesome. Leo. I sure did. Fire sign. Wait, wait, wait. I'm I'm. Well, you want to be Steve, but I really do. All right, whatever. That's fine. I am him. OK. I'm confident, ambitious. I didn't tell like Charlie at all. Jack and Jack and go ahead.
00:52:24
Speaker
Tell me how it's not. Don't be rude. I can tell you how it's not Charlie. Go ahead. And then for Jonathan. Oh yeah. I gave him Pisces as well. Okay. Little, little in his feels, very creative, little sensitive. That's, that seems fair. Like Pisces can be very romantic. Uh, and so, you know, he was down bad for homegirl and uh,
00:52:54
Speaker
Yeah. I can't wait till we get to episode two and three. We can really dive into Jonathan's. Jonathan's got stuff. Wonderful trades. I'm going to say it though. I'm a fan. I like Jonathan. Oh, he's great. i He's a little bit like. I have empathy for him. I have empathy for Jonathan. Right. I mean, all the odds are stacked against Jonathan. Like he's. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:15
Speaker
But is he kind of like helping the odds be continue to be stacked against him? i mean well yeah i mean he could he can say Maybe he knows it works to his advantage. He's playing to his ignorance. Okay. um Hopper. I went with a Taurus. Definitely.
00:53:35
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? right You can just see it. He is an earth sign. So he's a little rigid, a little stoic, very stubborn, which is the signature, signature move of a Taurus. Very stubborn. That sounds like the hopper. That's why. Which is funny because you could be making all this up and I have no idea, but just sounds just it sounds good like you're nailing it.
00:54:02
Speaker
Right. um I mean, which I believe in. This is great. Keep going. um I had two more. No, I had three. and Nancy. OK. I gave her Virgo. Wow.
00:54:19
Speaker
I gave her Virgo. a She was a very structured person. ah She had a plan in her head. And by God, we're going to follow this plan. We're going to study. OK, we're not going to make out. We're going to study. OK. So. Right. I'm getting down with it. i'm For those listening, I am a Virgo. And female and male Virgos are somewhat different. Very.
00:54:47
Speaker
they I like Nancy. Cool. I mean, it's fine that Charlie got Steve and I got Nancy, whatever. but I didn't think, I didn't think that hard about it time. I was sure, sure. care Right. It's just a immediate reaction. What do you think? And that's what you went with. But no, I think, but and I love, I love female Burgos. I'm friends with several. They're really great, but they are very structured and, uh, you know, they've got a plan. They've got an idea and we're going to stick to it.
00:55:17
Speaker
and And finally, my girl, Joyce, she is an Aquarius. She's an air sign. She's the only character that I did a little Googling to see what the rest of the world thought um because I was just genuinely curious. The reason that I went with Aquarius for her is that of all the signs in the Zodiac and Aquarius is the only one weird enough and outside the box enough to believe anything was going on beyond what meets the eye. Oh, oh, OK. I think I think that may also be leaning into that later on. Yeah, she. Yeah. It's the lights. Trust me. It's happening. No lights are going crazy. If there was a zodiac and I. OK, so I'm going to say this to you. I'm an Aquarius.
00:56:15
Speaker
it This would not be a hard sell for me, uh, in terms of, of her being like, no, but for real. Okay. but So let me ask then it not to get in this episode two and three and four or whatever, but if you were sitting there and the lights were moving and turn on crazy, would you be like, that's my son? It wouldn't take me long to get there now. Cause I also, well, but the phone call had happened.
00:56:40
Speaker
Right. There were content. And so she felt like there's some contact going on here. Like, right. That was definitely Will breathing on the phone or whatever. That didn't lead you to anything supernatural, though, but. But later. Yeah. OK. that's Right. That's true. All right. She. Yeah. And so she. OK. She's. Except the power was out. but What? What? When the power out, when that happened?
00:57:05
Speaker
I don't remember. Anyway, yeah, whatever. You might be on some. Yeah. I know. I don't want to go too far ahead. But yeah, Joyce was... Okay. I'm giving her a clear. So for everyone listening, write those down. We'll revisit them in a few episodes and see how we are. Not not for the sake of proving you wrong, but just to see, okay, now that you know more about it, do you stand by your original assessment or do you... Right.
00:57:30
Speaker
Could something be? I mean, you only know a little bit about him, but that's the point of movies. Now we're introducing this part of him. Oh, you thought he was bad. He was really just doing it because he felt bad for these people. Oh, he's a softy, you know, so we find out. You never can tell with the horoscopes. I mean, they're hitting mess, right? Well, it has more to do with your headline internal wiring. But that's all I'm going to say about that. OK, moving on. I think we have that was awesome, by the way. Great job.
00:57:58
Speaker
um I think we have a diary entry. Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that, Scott, because ah I happen to have grabbed a page out of the diary of ah Hopper himself. Oh, wonderful. OK. He writes a diary. did He does. Did he mention? Well, did he say anything? I have not looked at future entries in the diary out of all the characters. It could be.
00:58:26
Speaker
I'm I'm I'm you're surprised aren't you surprised that he's the one that keeps a diary maybe I was too I'm found I was okay when when the National Archives told me they had it I'm like they told you they were like hey by the way they reached out okay they heard what we were doing here the three amigos and they're like you would love to read this diary we have okay for you uh just happens to be from November the 4th 1983 so okay days prior to Uh, the disappearance of Will Byers. Interesting. Okay. November 4th, 1983. He starts out. Dear diary. I mean, Hopper is like all over. He's a romantic. he Right? I can see him laying on his bed, on his stomach, kicking his feet. Kicking his feet. Dear diary. Today I saw the most beautiful girl ever. Uh, go ahead. Not instead of standard or anything. Go ahead. Uh, dear diary.
00:59:27
Speaker
Hopman here. No, that's a little weird. He calls himself. He calls himself Hopman. I don't know. what I mean, I'm just reading it. He might have been a couple of beers deep at this point. Hopman here. What's happening? Hopman. Hopman here. I guess I need to give up on that nickname. Everyone just wants to call me Hopper now.
00:59:48
Speaker
So I don't know if he was testing the waters on, right? I think he's like, let me see if this works out. Uh, everybody just wants to call me hot for now, especially at work. Speaking of work, my brand new Chevy Blazer is awesome. I don't know if y'all happen to see that roll up at Hawkins police station. It was, it was actually nice. So I'm glad he referenced it here. Uh, shout out to the Hawkins taxpayers because it wasn't cheap. Uh,
01:00:17
Speaker
Flo hates it. She says it's a waste of money. Flo might be onto something. Right. I was going to say nobody asked you, Flo. Out of context, Charlie knows a little bit about city money and vehicles, but... Oh, I think I've actually heard a little bit about this. But go ahead. ah So moving on, he says weight loss is going well. Even with all that beer.
01:00:47
Speaker
Uh, folks say it's the cigarettes though. So I'm a little worried. He's like, fair, fair. I got to smoke to, you know, whatever. It's like going to the gym so that you can eat whatever you want. Right. And it's the eighties. I mean, when did the whole paid these things are terrible for you? Yeah, it was cool. Um, gets a look, gets a little weird at this point. I don't know. Not as interesting, but, uh,
01:01:15
Speaker
Looking forward to the upcoming college basketball season. I guess, you know, he should be he says I should be pulling for the Hoosiers, you know, they're in Indiana. Mm hmm. But then, you know, back in the 80s it is. So he says, but man, Michael Jordan and North Carolina are looking strong again. You know, they won a national championship in 1982. Michael Jordan hit like the game winning shot. ah But this this really caught my eye. I tell you, Jordan or jump man, as I would like to call him,
01:01:45
Speaker
ah What? I mean, he's almost nicknaming Michael Jordan before Michael Jordan was even Michael Jordan. um If I had some money saved up, I'd put it all on him becoming the best basketball player in the world. Dude's still playing in college. I don't, I mean, maybe he sees something in him.
01:02:03
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I thought that was pretty impressive. In spite of his lack of range when it comes to nicknames, he's insightful. Yeah, it's true. it yeah It's a shame. there I mean, on on to be fair, he came pretty close. I mean, Michael Jordan did end up being the second best player of all time in basketball. So easy, easy. I'm just ah I mean, so then he wrapped it up. Well, got to get a run by the store and get some slit smart liquor.
01:02:31
Speaker
Just gonna hang out at home tomorrow and watch the Rams and Bears game Fun fact the Rams and Bears were playing on November 5th 1983 look it up. So it must be true Got my new Jim McMahon jersey. So apparently he's a Bears fan Okay, Indiana, whatever um and But he goes on to say speaking of the slit smart liquor on my salary I'm not sure I can afford many more six packs four dollars doesn't go as far as it used to I Four dollars for a six pack inflation. ah And then he says, all right, that's all I got. Hop out.
01:03:12
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So hop out that does feel like. and Wow. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah. November. I mean, that sounds just like him from what we know about him. Hop man. Hopman. Wow. I love the nickname. The National Archives have told me there are more. So if we look forward to to yeah we'll pull up some more if we need to. Man, that's awesome. Hopman. I'm going to make some T-shirts. He's a Bears fan. He thinks Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time.
01:03:43
Speaker
It's great that he got signal back then out in that cabin. He must have had some advanced range with those, uh, the antennas. Yeah. I'm not sure how he's watching that game. Well, he's got, he's near that lab though. And there's a lot of. Radioactive. Weird things going on. He's got quite the location. It was a national lab.
01:04:07
Speaker
I guess they pick weird places to stick. oh god it's so funnying I thought that, but I thought maybe it is just cause I thought, all right, we're talking about weird stuff and weird places in the country. That's very true. They pick residents know about us. That's what I was. That's what was in my mind was like.
01:04:29
Speaker
Do they know this? You there's like National yeah Energy Lab is they know it's there, but do they know what's really going on? They don't know what's going on. Right. All right. Well, thank you for that diary entry. Thank you for the horoscope. That was all awesome. um That is episode one. Stranger Things. We look forward to reviewing episode two. um I don't know how many episodes are in season one.
01:04:56
Speaker
Uh, maybe our Google guy can bring us that information. Um, eight. Okay. So we should fly through these pretty good. I forgot they were an hour long too. That's a solid hour of viewing. Yeah. A lot of time to take in a lot of information and let them drag out meaningless exposition.
01:05:16
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pieces. Oh, by the way, these guys are losers. We'll show you that in three different ways. um Anyway, thank you all for listening. This is episode one. We'll be back soon with episode two, Stranger Things. Thank you for Scott Filts, Shawn Fretwell, and Charlie Harcum. Peace. Hop out. So good. So good. Hop out.