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Nobody Wants This S1E1: Meet the Rabbi
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Kristen Bell is great but let's be honest - Adam Brody’s charming rabbi is stealing the spotlight, and we totally get why everyone’s raving about him. In this episode of Episodes Unscripted, we dive into the pilot of Nobody Wants This and try to figure out if the show’s appeal is all him—or if there’s more to love.
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Transcript
Introduction and Series Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
This is the exciting one. Oh, gosh. Oh, are you ready? Are you checking out? Nope. I'm here. I'm rallying. I love that you've led with this is exciting one. Can't wait to see how that works out.
00:00:26
Speaker
How's it going everybody? This is episodes unscripted. I'm here with Charlie Harkum and Shawna Fretwell. I'm Scott Felds and today we are starting a series on Nobody Wants This and I have a feeling that the two people I'm sitting here with don't want it, but we're gonna do it anyway because ah It is new and it is what people are talking about so we watched episode one of Nobody Wants This and And I just want to give you guys the floor to open up your thoughts on it. Um, who wants to start us off overall thoughts?
Lifestyle Comparisons: LA vs Rural Areas
00:01:09
Speaker
I'd love to. If Shawna doesn't mind, please, ah it'll be short and sweet. Um,
00:01:20
Speaker
I like Kristen Bell. Okay. It's a good start. Uh, but I, over time have thought she might could be a little bit annoying and it has nothing to do with her character in this as far as I can tell so far, but, uh, Dax Shepard, that's who she's married to, right? Yes. Who has never, you know, been what he thinks he is. I don't mean he's a good or bad person, but he's just never,
00:01:53
Speaker
I think he's worn off on her a little bit and just kind of maybe making me think she's annoying. But, uh... That's a very valid thought so far. It has nothing to do with the show. And the the show itself feels like her. Is she a writer on it? I don't know. Truly she's... She's gotta have her hands up. It feels so much like her. I want to put a pause in what you're saying, because everything sounds very right. And I think I have...
00:02:21
Speaker
the thought that might tie it all together because i started thinking about this watching it i thought okay they're obviously you know in california and l.a I think we live dramatically different like lives. we We are living in a different world than everyone living in Hollywood, Los Angeles, the West Coast. They are living different lives. I mean, just the way that they interact and talk to each other. Obviously there's people you know that that live in other places that are like that, but the the interactions, everything about the city,
00:02:59
Speaker
Just, I, and i I, you know, we live in Atlanta. Granted, I'm not walking the streets of downtown Atlanta super often, right? But I mean, I think they're just living in a different world. Again, though, I grew up in rural Virginia. What kind of Virginia? Rural. Rural. Rural. So, I mean, you know, and I understand that you know I've had friends that I went to high school with that moved out to LA and are just different people now. Maybe they were that person all along, they just felt comfortable now how being that person. big i mean like The parties, the bars, just but just the livestock the elevated spaces. ah they're ah Whatever they're doing, they're making more money. They can live those lifestyles because I can't just, you know
00:03:56
Speaker
I definitely can't afford it. You need a lot of money over there, too. That's what I'm saying. Like, the places they're living in, in the, you know, show, I'm thinking, wow, I mean, OK. I love it when we see these people in, well, it's more normally New York, but same same concept where, oh, this dude is struggling, he's a waiter in this dumb restaurant, and he gets on his apartment, and it's this cool, like, bike apartment, got some crates over here. You know what I think about? I'd love to live there.
Rom-Com Critique and Character Impressions
00:04:28
Speaker
I think about- He's not struggling?
00:04:29
Speaker
Yeah, the movie AWP with Big Daddy, Andrew Garfield. You said Big Daddy. And it was about his apartment. Always. Sorry. Tick tick boom with the guy that made Rent. Have you seen Tick Tick Boom? Either of you? Never heard of it.
00:04:46
Speaker
wow okay well he lived in an apartment he was you know broke in new york he had that awesome line that i love where she was talking about like you know i'm sad and he's like everyone's sad that's what new york is i've been telling you how unhappy i am for months everyone's unhappy in new york that's what new york is It was awesome. But he's living in this super vibey, you know, brick a party, throws his party. And I'm thinking, this is awesome. What? Like, I know, I'm not buying the whole poor. Anyway, different time. But, well, I have to say, they live in a different world than us. They're not related. Okay, that's a good perspective, maybe, to go into this. Even if we lived in LA, they're still not relatable. The apartments they're living in are not, they're not struggling.
00:05:38
Speaker
i mean to say really are Not to say we are, but if we were living in LA, we might be. I don't know. I actually only made two notes in general. So we've talked a lot. with None of those are my notes, just so you know. Okay, great. um And yes, it's the first episode. It's only 27 minutes. yep yeah So you can't have too much to grab onto yet. You're just figuring people out. Agreed.
00:06:08
Speaker
I will say this, I do like the dude, I don't even remember his name, but the main guy apparently seems like he's going to be the rabbi. I love the way he talks, whether it's the actor or the writing, he's just, I like his dialogue.
00:06:28
Speaker
um But I will say, is this a this is a rom com, romantic com, is that, did you describe it as that? I would say so, yeah. Okay. oh yeah um I didn't crack a smile until I heard the crypto joke. Which is funny because it's the guy you like in it and you're like, okay. The crypto joke was good. Yeah. But not even the joke that he told.
00:06:56
Speaker
when they cut to the guy sitting in the, I don't know if it's his friend or his brother or whatever, and he's like, I gave him that joke. That made me laugh. Yeah. Cause that's, that you can relate to. Cause you thinking, I'd be sitting there doing that. Yeah. Yes. Other than that.
00:07:15
Speaker
i Enjoyed the little mix-up, but that was like, okay. I can see that coming a mile away, which she thinks one guy's a different guy. Yeah, ah I mean i hope it I Hope it you know takes off from here cuz I mean, I think it was cool that she came around and the I was like, OK, we might have a relationship here. This is. Yeah. My first note was the moment when they're walking, he walks her to her car after she finds out he's a rabbi. And she said, I'm going to leave. And he said, I'll walk you out. And she's like, well, I'm at the bottom of the hill. And he's like, I know. It's me too. And they walked to the bottom of the hill.
00:07:52
Speaker
And she's like, where are you parked? And he's like, I got a spot right up at the top. And it's like, oh, that's sweet. He walked her all the way down and he didn't even need to because he sparked up there. And I'm thinking, well, two things. One, I'm going to play, you know, devil's advocate here. Fully support guys. Great. Doing awesome. But one.
00:08:10
Speaker
You don't need to take ownership of it. All right, that would have been much sweeter of a moment if only we knew about it. If she leaves and then we're like, oh, he parked at the top. Wow. And he didn't even say anything. Like that was just two. The only reason I say that is because we've seen this before. We've seen it been done.
00:08:31
Speaker
This is straight out of La La Land. He did this in La La Land. They go to a big party and he walks her to her car and they have that whole musical scene, right? And she gets to the car and she, you know, cranks it up and drives off. And then once she pulls out of sight, he turns around and walks back up the hill, grabs the skis from the guy and he was right across the street from the party. And I'm like, oh, that's what a guy. Just felt like a little bit of, you know, oh,
00:09:01
Speaker
All right, I mean, my boy Ryan did that already, but no, it's cool. It's cute when you do it too, but it's, well, whatever. It was little stuff like that, that I thought, okay, I at least like this guy cause he's, I mean, maybe, maybe he's going to turn out to be not so awesome at some point, but, uh, I think it have been like a nice, you know, like a treat for the audience. If only we realized.
00:09:27
Speaker
But maybe it doesn't fit this story. But it was just like, a oh, she drives off. Oh, he parked at the time. He didn't even have to go down there.
Modern Dating and Character Analysis
00:09:35
Speaker
But, you know. Would you believe me if I was thinking as they were walking down, I was thinking he's definitely not parked down there. Because I was thinking it too, because I was sitting there like, if he's parked at the top of the hill, this is la la land. I've seen it. I wasn't even thinking that, but yeah. yeah um No hate though. Shawna, what are your overall thoughts on the show before we get deeper into thoughts? this I don't know. that Talking about this show makes me feel like an asshole because I watch it and I'm just like, okay. I don't always do awesome with rom-coms. I think they did a really good job of encapsulating the modern dating world.
00:10:14
Speaker
And a lot of how difficult it is in the year of our Lord 2024 for a lot of people and so the whole premise here, right? Like the internet collectively, at least from the the the side that women hang out on, collectively lost their mind over Adam Brody in the show, which is the guy y'all are referencing, the actor.
00:10:34
Speaker
Noah is his name. Noah, OK. Now collectively lost their minds over Adam Brody. And in fact, I saw off um footage from a shoot he just did. I think it was for a Vogue or something, and he's doing kind of the quirky, like messy hair, sweater up over the head. Like he is America's dream guy. It checks all the boxes almost to the point where it's borderline too cliche. But this bothers me a little bit because I mean, I don't know him as a real guy. He's great, probably, I'm sure. But he's a rabbi in the show. So he's, you know, he's supposed to be a great, wonderful, thoughtful, open-minded listener person.
00:11:17
Speaker
It's not just that though. It's the way that he makes her feel. it's yes to her It's the way that he, a rabbi would, you know, I don't think so. Not on a potential romantic. Yeah. Because the things that she feels insecure about and the things that she feels wobbly about, he knows exactly what to say. Like he's already posturing himself.
00:11:41
Speaker
to make her she obviously has walls up right we already can tell right out of the gate oh he's gonna come along and say all the right things and knock down all the walls and she's you know what i mean like you can already yeah but i think i'm competing with a rabbi here and that doesn't feel fair it's like okay if you put you know me and him and it's like all right here's the question what do you how do you respond but anybody's gonna know better than i But that would only be a due to lack of effort. Anybody can figure out. Oh, I didn't go to rabbi school. Wow. Rabbi school. i think Rabbi. I think a rabbi school is very just religious. stu I'm not. I would not assume just because you had a degree in theology that that would make you a good boyfriend. And the fact that you a little that what you just explained, though,
00:12:30
Speaker
that that's where i was like i like the guy and and that's exactly why because i thought okay he seems real he said he knows exactly what to say to her and what she wants to hear and that's why i knew when he was walking down the hill like he is not parked down there he's doing this for a reason because he knows that ah He's gonna check all the right boxes, yeah and he's gonna tear her walls down, and she's going to come out of this a better version of herself. because yeah I agree with all this, and and you're you're right. I do think there's a small part of it that is because he's a rabbi, but regardless, I think you're right. But you just said something interesting. Say what you said again, Chuck. I'm pointing at you. You were talking about, you know,
00:13:20
Speaker
I'll say it for you. You said, yeah, you said he knows exactly what she wants to hear. It's interesting. You phrase it like that. Are you saying that maybe it's, you know, he's running game like it, right. Is he just spitting game here? He knows exactly what she wants to hear. Regardless of what he thinks. That's what she wants to hear. That's what I'm gonna say. Um,
00:13:46
Speaker
Yeah, I feel, I mean, I think naturally he would be, but it all felt genuine. I didn't, I never thought he's just saying the right things. Oh, no, no, no. He seems very genuine. Because the way you phrased it was like, you know, well, he knows exactly what she wants to hear.
00:14:01
Speaker
No, I was no. No, I was thinking No, he means all of what he's getting a little swept off your feet. But that's I was totally that's why people lost their minds over him I know I know I know this guy is written almost too perfectly. Yes, he's written almost too perfectly He's not running
Cultural Elements and Stereotypes
00:14:20
Speaker
games. though it's So it's some point though. He's gotta not be Right. He's gotta have some it's almost too perfect. It's almost too perfect. I can't get into it when it's that far That's interesting that people have even pointed that out. But yes, it was too perfect. He had the right thing to say at every point throughout. In just one episode. It's incredible.
00:14:42
Speaker
um Yeah, I don't want I. So another thought I'm going to I still didn't like it. I mean, i'm umm I'm looking forward. I think it was just because of him. though That's crazy. I'm a namor with him. Right. Oh, wow. He got everybody. Well, maybe, though, maybe, though, you'll start to come around because you'll be like, oh, well, she's just a little bit misunderstood. And she just needs someone like that to help her along the way. OK. Um.
00:15:12
Speaker
But, oh, what was I gonna say? But that's the part. That's the part that every woman got so crazy about was like, oh, this guy gets me. He understands me, even though I'm out here. I was thinking. Dude, 30 years ago, whenever.
00:15:30
Speaker
I wish I could have had the... I needed you as a wingman, like... And when you're hearing him saying it, you're like, yeah, yeah, obviously. That's what you should say right there. Can I also add, though, they that they really... Because all that stuff alone is great, and he could have won us over with just that. As an audience, it'd have been like, oh, he wins, because we're loving this and it's great, and he's hitting everything perfectly. But he was...
00:15:54
Speaker
He was handed to us on a silver platter because the first interaction is him going in and finding out his fiance. Oh, homegirl. Not fiance yet has found the engagement ring that he was going to use to propose with her. She's already wearing it. And he's like, what's that on your hand? Oh, wow. I forgot how about that. Oh, that part was so funny. They walk in him and his brother and she's wearing the engagement ring. And he's like, where what is that? What's on your hand?
00:16:25
Speaker
Oh, it's an engagement ring. Whoa, did you guys get engaged? No. And she's just like, yeah, I found it a few months ago in the bottom of your desk. And he's like, the desk that was locked. So I like randomly found it. It's so weird. A few months ago in like the bottom drawer of your desk. The desk that was locked?
00:16:46
Speaker
That's a huge invasion of privacy. And she's like, but it's fine. You were going to propose. We're engaged. what ah What's the problem? I don't understand. And I'm thinking, OK, but that they know that is like beyond bizarre. That's wild. They're handing him to us like this is the guy. Right. You're going to be already know he's not right. Yeah. And you want to see him with somebody more like Kristen Bell's character, because there's nobody that's going to root for. Rebecca was hurting the nice Jewish, the nice Jewish girl.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah, you know, all his parents love her. It's interesting. You said Jewish. Does that have something to do with the fact that she took it out of his desk and was wearing his engagement ring? What are you talking about? I'm just saying you are all about some slippery slopes here. I'm just I'm just stirring the pot. But she checks all the boxes.
00:17:37
Speaker
Supposedly for him, you know, his parents are very into the idea. She's a jew nice Jewish girl Like their situation was all set up for them And then that happens Now, um i it's interesting, again, that you said Jewish because I think it's really, really funny. She goes to the party and she thinks, you know, the one guy is the rabbi. Well, Judaism doesn't exactly- Wait, why are you talking? Joe, that's so rude. what do you Isn't he the rabbi?
00:18:10
Speaker
Right? Why? Because he looks like a rabbi? Okay. Great. When she goes to the temple to listen to him, they all sit there and they're like, who's that? And she goes, a shiksa. Who the hell is that? A shiksa. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What do you know about her religion? Because she's a short blonde woman? What does that have to do with anything? Am I missing something here?
00:18:40
Speaker
uh i don't know a ton about other than rumors and hearsay about the jewish culture but but just based on her being there and look on i think they can yeah yeah they immediately apply the temple yep so she must be Must be a shiksa. Yeah, she can't be I think that's probably a real I don't want to offend any I mean these these sound like stereotypes Which is ironic? I think that's a big deal and for the jewish culture like they They're separated would have been different the rest of ah everybody else if she wasn't blonde
00:19:21
Speaker
Blonde, not a, not profound Jewish facial figure, facial structure features. Yep. ah Yeah, but you could- Seemingly attractive. You're like, okay. Oh, she can't be Jewish. She can't be Jewish in a traditional off sense. Yes. I'm actually very interested to hear more about how, cause I don't look at her and think Jewish.
00:19:48
Speaker
I think if her he's not and the girl, the Rebecca girl, one that wore the engagement ring, walked in the room. I don't remember what she looked like, but. She had brown hair, right? She just. Oh, OK. Oh, there's the checkbox. You. That's just. That's the thing. You can't tell someone's Jewish just by looking at them, although sometimes you can, because, you know, like the parents, for example, they were quintessential. Yeah. Classic Jewish parents. There was no question.
00:20:16
Speaker
i I don't know. It's just, it's quite interesting to me. Is Kirsten Bell Jewish? Should we get into that? Like, I don't think we should get into it. No, but she did the whole Kabbalah thing. remember when clever gonna look at And they had the red bracelet. But okay. If she, what if she converted to Judaism and walks in that temple and they're like, who's that? Well, wait a minute. I mean, maybe we should ask her.
00:20:46
Speaker
Well, I mean, it's kind of like you and Barb. I mean, you knew immediately that she was no fun, annoying, the outcast. And and you wanted to bully her. I did want to bully her. Okay, well, they're bullying her. Based on her looks. yeah Okay, yeah, no, that's fair. We live in a shallow world. That's fair. Well, in the 80s, they lived in a shallow world. They wanted to but bully Jonathan. We're getting off topic. It's still shallow, don't worry.
Comedy and Relatability in Writing
00:21:10
Speaker
Okay. um Interesting. What do we...
00:21:14
Speaker
So you liked the guy that was that made the crypto joke? Sasha? I don't mean I liked him. i just That's the first time I actually smiled at the show and I'm like, oh, maybe this does have some comedy in it. Because up to that point,
00:21:31
Speaker
I was like, okay, these are supposed to be funny little things that are happening, but that's bad to me. I think he's the comedic relief a little bit, so I think that might... I was looking for that the whole time, and I'm like, oh, okay, we got a little bit of... Yeah, because I wasn't getting it with the whole, like...
00:21:48
Speaker
you know, the podcast and yeah, that was and i in her sister. I think her parents are a little too extreme, like weird to be funny. And maybe that's just me. Maybe the, the masses love it, but the whole, like her mom, you know, it just, it was a weird, it was almost too weird. Oh, there,
00:22:15
Speaker
You know, oh, it's our anniversary, yeah, of when they got divorced. Special occasion? It's our anniversary. Aww. Of the day they got separated. Why do we do this every year? Yeah. Okay. What are we doing here? yeah Like what? Yeah. And I kept thinking the same thing. Like, Oh, and they're both gay now or whatever. And I'm like, okay, but I'm not laughing. I mean, what can we say? me Because laugh out it's almost like they're so based on the way they, you know, act, it's almost like they're so weird that you almost don't even believe that they would even be capable of being responsible.
00:22:49
Speaker
Especially not enough to raise children, but they're you know right they act a little bit like children And you're like wait am I supposed to buy that these are the parents? But that was the vibe of the show to me every character was overwritten, and I didn't see them as irresponsible people They were just very modern like they were obviously living out a very like dynamic that is very modern for 2024. Oh, we're divorced. He's gay. We're still. Yeah, that part's fine. But the way that they almost acted stupid like she's, you know, I went to the doctor and he's like, I i know your face does look.
00:23:25
Speaker
I went to the doctor the other day and she discovered something awful. Oh, I noticed that the second you walked in, your skin is this awful blue. That's like a softball pitch joke for I'm just not buying that. It's not really funny. it's Yeah, it was not.
00:23:41
Speaker
Funny was it supposed to or was it just like? Because he definitely told it in a way that serious like his character wasn't trying to be funny I think that's when I started thinking Oh, Kristen Bell write some of this like is she trying to write jokes because these feel very like Dax Shepard Yeah, I was like these aren't funny. There is no love for Dax Shepard No in this room. I wish by the way complete side note that dude I don't know if y'all have ever seen him on him one of the podcasts he shows up on. I think it's Theo Bond. He talks about his life. So I respect that. Like that dude went through some stuff. story I like his story. He came back around. That's awesome. I just never thought he was funny. And the whole time I was thinking, maybe he even wrote some of this because this is not, I'm not
00:24:31
Speaker
I like because I don't like it. I like insightful Dax Shepard better than I like funny Dax Shepard. Yes. I like him when he says there is no funny Dax Shepard. I always thought he was the lead singer of Nickelback. All right. Yeah. Yep. Yep. They are very doppelganger possibilities. I'll think you don't know.
00:24:52
Speaker
You know, it's crazy though. I mean, I had no interest in, I had two notes written down about this thing and I am realizing now I did not care about it until the rabbi showed up. This is blowing my mind. Okay. But I think that's the point though. I think that might be the point is like, we're giving you all these crazy extreme characters that you don't really have any sympathy with, you have no reason to sympathize with them, and then he'll give you this one that's like, his his you know girlfriend is crazy, and he's acting and reacting normal and relatable, and it's like, okay, I can, this is the guy I'm gonna latch onto for this, because I don't, I'm not buying the rest of it.
Character Development and Audience Appeal
00:25:36
Speaker
And he still hangs out with this crowd, he went to the party, and he's still a cool you know guy, but he's hanging out around all these people that are very like,
00:25:45
Speaker
you know, up here, just, yeah, exciting. And he's just right here and he's cool. And I think the point is to give you a character to be like, that can be that person. Yep. That's or that's my tie into this. Right. Yes. Yeah. I think as it goes on, there's there's a little bit more.
00:26:06
Speaker
but i just hope so i just think you know right now they're like this is your guy okay we want that's the one and the whole you know then he preaches and oh i did did love that she showed up i would I was still not into it, but I was like. Humanized her a little bit. Okay. She showed up. That's cool. But I was happy more for him. I didn't even care about her. I'm like, okay. He said all the right things and he got through to her. And it checked. And she showed up. Well, all right. That dude's winning. He is winning. But it it's almost like there's a little bit of jealousy, like.
00:26:50
Speaker
I can't spit that kind of game. That's such a good thing to say right there. Oh my gosh. Now I know why Aaron liked this show so much. Why didn't I park at the top of the hill? Like what? I'm gonna do that one time.
00:27:04
Speaker
Oh, let me get there. So, away to like, there's so much to it. Well, you could just, you know, freshen things up. there's There's nothing wrong with the gesture for you. Well, you definitely couldn't do that. guide together Write that down. Well, but you would drive the same car. So maybe I could learn a lot from this dude.
00:27:24
Speaker
He should probably write things down. Yeah. Probably take notes. Every woman in the man said it saw the show, fell in love with him. Yeah, I can't. I'm gonna go ask Aaron all about it, like... On a scale of one to ten, just based off looks. Shauna, what is he? Be honest. Be honest. He had a neck beard. Yeah.
00:27:46
Speaker
Like a seven, I guess. No, you can't say seven. Why? That's the everybody thinks seven. You can't revise the seven. So he's either a six or an eight. Yep. And we know because six feels low ball. Eight is not exactly which is what he looks like now. He looks like. He looks like Adam Brody. He's remarkably average. He's the type of guy he's the type of guy That's how I want to be described. Remarkably, remarkably average. He is. He's the type of guy that his personality, his personality, could launch him up to a nine.
00:28:26
Speaker
or lob him back down to a four. If he's a a-hole, you're out of here. If he's a super nice guy, like what part of what makes him so attractive in this show is because of the type of person he is. It's not his looks that are carrying him here. It's his insightfulness and his thoughtfulness and his- But you have to approach him to get to that point. He's not so unfortunate looking that if he walked up to you, you'd but You know what I mean? Like, I think most women would probably- I gotta pull him up here. Also though, it looks like she walked up to him. Like, I don't think he's the type of guy based on his personality that's gonna walk up to someone and start hitting on him. Oh wow. That's part of his game. He's remarkably average. He's remarkably average.
00:29:12
Speaker
He's not, part of this game is that he's not going to go up and, okay I heard, go up and talk to her because then that changes his whole dynamic. Now he's is he as insightful or is he just hitting on her because he approached her?
00:29:26
Speaker
But it was very, oh God, his beard is trash in this picture. Yes, that first one. That's why I said. Like if this person, yes, but someone who looks like that, who embodies what his character does in this show, yeah, you can talk you can talk to a beautiful woman and it'll work. Here's my thing though, again.
00:29:45
Speaker
She walks up to him, approaches him. So he has to be at least good enough looking to draw in something. But his vibe, his vibe was also a thing. All right, but you walk in a room and you can feel his vibe? Absolutely. The energy somebody puts off, a thousand percent. That's crazy. Now you're talking like the podcast girls in LA. But it's true. The energy that he puts off.
00:30:07
Speaker
am home Finally! Okay, this is a cry for help. I don't know. I found it in the back of my dad's closet, so maybe. What kind of energy is Chuck putting off right now from across the world? No, I'm not trying to put it off. Don't put that voodoo on me. Okay, alright, put it off. He's gotta be putting off the energy. I'm picking up the energy.
00:30:26
Speaker
But see, that's what I'm saying. It's it's not just your- He's the center of the room. He's the first thing you look at. It's how you carry yourself. And he's not even trying hard either. It's just that. That's part of it Oh, the glaze for this guy right now is incredible. I get it, but.
00:30:43
Speaker
I just would literally put it down was I like him. That's basically what it says. But it's not you. I like him. It could be anybody. The kind of energy you the way you walk into a room, the way you carry yourself, that emits certain things to other people. Well, I'm just wondering, he's just standing there at the table opening a bottle of wine. What is this energy that he is putting off?
00:31:10
Speaker
Well, you see it later. I mean, it's not. it Right. But no, no, no. But that's what, you know, I just went, of course, I don't think she like noticed somebody and felt a little curious or like, oh, what's their deal? But you don't even know why you just. OK, no. OK, you might. ah You got me there. They don't have to do anything. It's their energy.
Predictability and Story Consistency
00:31:32
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You're well, but is that a personal thing or is it like, oh, yes. I mean, is it like as everyone going to feel his energy?
00:31:40
Speaker
Well, there's obviously you don't. But there's chemistry. I mean, different people are going to vibe with different people. I think I'm trying to talk myself out of it because I think I do, but I don't want to because it doesn't make sense. I was getting ready to say like maybe.
00:31:55
Speaker
I don't know, but gosh, he's he's the only yeah he's the we talk about it too. I'm like, I want to go watch this episode again because we love him. I think I was in love with Adam Brody, but whoever wrote this, I would say the producers and the writers just gifted that guy. Yes. With a career.
00:32:16
Speaker
That feels very insulting to say. He probably had a great career before this. I don't know him before this. And he's, you know, very capable of getting his own work and everything. But I mean, they they just handed him it's a breakout to the world and said, this is your guy. You love him. but And they're like, we do. And he's like, yeah, I guess you kind of do. They cast him just right unless they wrote. I mean, it's incredible.
00:32:43
Speaker
I mean, at some point in a future episode, I mean, maybe we're going to be like, is he going to be the bad guy? So perfect. But I mean, no one's talking about that. She's saying that everyone everyone is talking about how much they love him. So I would they say he's going to be awesome. He's going to be dragging her. Is that going to be annoying?
00:33:03
Speaker
I'm gonna get more annoyed with her because I'm gonna be like, okay, you big dummy. I promise you she's going to, yeah, so I can tell you already the things that she's going to do is she's gonna show her crazy side at least once. She's gonna make at least two solid attempts to push him away. She's going to spiral. You know what I mean? She's gonna do all those things and he's gonna remain rock steady and solid through all of it. I'm calling it now.
00:33:32
Speaker
I'm gonna make a quick comparison here. It's only because we just watched this movie In no way is this guy sure on the same level you're talking. Yeah, go ahead. Uh Y'all seen the bridesmaid the movie bridesmaids Bridesmaids. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yes the the cop boyfriend in that Mmm, the the good guy like the didn't he He always had the right thing to say to her. She pushed him away. She had this doofus, not nice to her boyfriend. And he's he was just always saying the right thing to her, but he wasn't all he's not a 10.
00:34:15
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attractiveness or anything, but he just always said the right thing. And he was there when she needed him, even when she didn't realize it. It reminds me a lot of that. It's that same thing. It's that same thing where he's just, and then when you think, okay, there's no way he's gonna, you know, be nice to her ever again for all the horrible things she's done to him. He's got a crack at some point. He was there. No, this guy never cracked.
00:34:44
Speaker
No, I know, I'm just saying, that's what you're thinking is, really, he's got a crack at some point. I mean, he can't be Superman this whole time. But you're right, Shauna. She's gonna do all those things to him. She's gonna do everything she can to make him run away. He won't run away. And then the whole nation fell in love with him. So for him, is it her looks? Or is he just such a nice guy that he's like, no, I think... Maybe he's found a project and he's like... Well, that feels malicious.
00:35:11
Speaker
He's now he's in it for the fact of like
Character Arcs and Rom-Com Expectations
00:35:14
Speaker
experimenting. No, I mean a personal project as well. He's like, you know. I mean, I think the other piece of it that would sell women is that he's going to make her feel seen. So he's going to see past everything she puts out first to who she really is, which is somebody worth loving. Yes. And he's got to bring her to realize that about herself. Can I just say, you guys, I'm i'm calling every bit of it. Yes. How this is going to write itself. Mm hmm.
00:35:40
Speaker
You I mean going into this you guys seem like you were gonna hate this and I still hate it i I'm mad at it, but I also know what's gonna happen like it's it's very predictable In that way, I'm sure they'll be silly since written. It's interesting Scott that you said something about the masses Yeah, it feels like it is written written for the for the mass It's like doesn't have somebody puts out and you hear the hook in it and you're like Okay, this is just a cookie-cutter song. Not a deep track. Yeah, every they knew this would get people pumped in the club. Doesn't every show feel like that at the first episode? Not like this. Not as transparent as this is. Okay. Transparent, that's a good word for this. I think you nailed it, actually. i can There's definitely a psychological component here. I mean, when I watched the first episode of Breaking Bad,
00:36:37
Speaker
I wasn't thinking that. Well, you make a good point. how You had to drag me through the first, like, five. And you really do. You really do. But you were like, no, no, no. I even got to a point after, like, season two towards the end of it. And you're like, oh, no, but you've got to. You're right there. you Trust me, it's going to turn. And Sean, you're a big Breaking Bad fan, right? So I've only watched a couple of episodes. um ah But I will tell you, I will tell you this. I immediately.
00:37:07
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understood Walter White's character. Like, when he finally snapped, I was rooting for him so hard. I was like, you deserved that, sir. You earned that moment. Like, I understood completely why he did. He deserves... I'm a member of him. Wow. No, because because the guy was out here just trying to do the right thing all the time and everybody around him was the worst.
00:37:30
Speaker
And he was due to have a moment to lose his ish a little. Oh, I know what it was because the person doubted him. He was like, you won't do that. You cut him or something. And then I was and ah I remember watching that scene going, oh, yes, he will, because they pushed him just far enough. And he sure did. Oh, yes, he will. Yes. You don't think once. Well, if you've ever been in that moment where you here I bet you won't and you're like, I bet I will. She didn't hear Walter.
00:37:53
Speaker
but Show him. I was so excited for him. He doesn't think he'll do it. Show him what you're made of. Trying to think of other shows, though, that would be like from day one, you're like, oh, I already know where this is going. Rom coms in general. Yeah. I think when you called it a rom com, when you told me we were going to watch this, I'm like, oh, please have some interesting dynamic that I don't see coming. But at least they have Adam Birdie.
00:38:22
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and his immaculate neck beard. Maybe they do have something that you don't see coming. It's the first time. Oh, very well. I hope so. Otherwise we like anybody could have written this. You're just going to enjoy all the note taking. Oh, I'm definitely using that line. That was. Oh, yes. But you've seen it too, right? She has. And did she like it? Maybe I shouldn't say love, but she liked it. She said, oh, it's good. I bet it was.
00:38:51
Speaker
That sounds about as exciting as she gets. Yeah. Well, it's good. Yeah. I want to at some point have her on for an episode of this though. Yeah.
Conclusion and Future Plans
00:39:00
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No, I want to talk to her about him in general. Yeah. And just see what her thoughts are. We'll have to, I mean, maybe later on. Without, yeah. Because she's seen it. So we'll, yeah I don't want her to actually spoil anything. Yeah. that And see if her thoughts line up with with where where we where we'd land. Yeah. Okay, good. Well, ah we're going to wrap this one up. It was very insightful, I'll say. I didn't think you two would take that as far as you did, but there were points where I'm thinking, I'm not even talking here. Right. You guys are really rolling with this. I wish I could read ah the rabbi's diary.
00:39:42
Speaker
I don't have any entries from it, but gosh, wouldn't that be good? how That dude's writing down yeah poetry, straight, like romantic poetry. Holy cow, it's gotta be good. I would be very, very shocked if whoever it was last time that gave you Hopps diary gave you this guy's diary. Listening to you read his diary is like, wait a minute, I don't know.
00:40:10
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I think you know what I'm putting down here. I the and don't know. Anyway. Okay. Um, we'll get our hands on it. Maybe we will. Maybe we will will. We definitely have some interesting things to dive into later on in this series. Uh, thank you everyone for listening. Charlie Harkum, Shawna Frantwell. My name is Scott Phelps episodes unscripted. We'll be back with, and nobody wants us.