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Hot Takes: Magnus vs. The Dress Code
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Magnus Carlsen, the world’s top chess player, refused to play after being asked to change out of jeans. Was he being petty, or does his status give him the right to walk away? We debate his decision and whether the #1 player has a responsibility to compete or can choose to sit it out.
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Introduction and Team Overview
00:00:11
Speaker
Welcome to Episodes Unscripted. I am Scott Felts, joined by Shawna Fretwell and Charlie Harkim. All right. Today we we're gonna dive into, what was that?
Pondering Wickedness: Nature or Nurture?
00:00:25
Speaker
Just confirming what you said. Okay. Nailed it. Before you, Scott, you you asked about the quote behind me. ah You were asking about the quote? Yes, please. Yeah, so the quote today, I hope folks that are,
00:00:41
Speaker
watching or listening. Nobody listened and noticed that it got updated. But those that were looking noticed that it got updated. ah The quote of the day, but I don't change it every day, are people born wicked or do they have wickedness thrust upon them?
00:00:57
Speaker
hi This is your whole personality this movie anonymous So if you know, you know who it is, but I'll just quote anonymous I didn't see the movie but I knew where it was from. There were a few buzz. Yeah, cuz nobody says wicked Unless they're talking about that movie. I Don't really i don't know what you're talking about Scott. We're gonna move on.
Admiration for Morning Brew's Creativity
00:01:19
Speaker
I'm glad you asked. Thanks for asking Three headlines in a lie. Shout out to the Morning Brew as always. ah Love those guys. And we're very interested now in how they come up with these three headlines because the past two that we've done, I mean, props to you guys. I don't know how you do it. I want to know the process. Who's sitting there like, I got one. This will get them. Or are you reading the headlines and you're like, oh, then'll well, let's just put something stupid up there. They'll never believe that all these are true.
00:01:50
Speaker
It must be so much fun, honestly, it's got to work with your team to come up with this. It's got to be a blast. And are they sitting there with like a list of like you know future? i just I'm so impressed. Anyway, I'll shut up.
00:02:07
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um I just want them to send me like a t-shirt or something. I got, I've gotten like 10 referrals. So I've gotten a lot of stickers or something. do I have a lot of stuff morning brew because of all the referrals. Anyway, moving on three headlines in a
Game Time: Spot the Fake Headline
00:02:24
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lie. The game is there's three real headlines and one fake one made up by the morning bro team. Well, we have to figure out which one is fake. These headlines are from the holiday break are real and one is faker than the champagne you popped on New Year's Eve. We all know sparkling wine. Can you guess the odd one out?
00:02:44
Speaker
Number one. They really came for our lives on New Year's Eve. You did not do it right. Number one. A Wisconsin city rings in New Year one hour too late after forgetting daylight savings time ended. Oh gosh. No, that's not real. Forgetting daylight savings time. That's not real. That can't be. Ah, if we have people listening and watching from Wisconsinans, that's real. I'm embarrassed. Oh, that better be fake. It's not even supposed to be some goofy city. They ring in the New Year one hour late after forgetting daylight savings time ended. There's so many reasons why that can't be real. Wow. You fall back. No one had a TV on? You gotta fall back. People aren't on their phones and they're like, what's? Everything's so automated now. I feel like we don't even need to hear the other three. That better be. Is there one city wall clock and that's all you all refer to? Wait a minute. Wisconsin, did it say town or city? The city, a Wisconsin city.
Paris 2024 Olympic Medals Deterioration Discussion
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Yeah, but I mean cities can be what is this Hawkins Wow ah Yeah, that's okay number two these better not be even more bizarre they probably are but they're goingnna be real They're gonna make us think about this Wisconsin thing number two Olympians reveal how much Paris 2024 medals have already deteriorated No, I believe this. I believe that. Because there was a story on it very early on about the medals were, who was, it was Nigel Houston, the skateboarder, and he was showing off his medal on Instagram and he's like, it's already fading. o So I can believe that they're still there. Yeah, I'll buy that. Yeah.
00:04:37
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That's okay. I'm good. Yeah. that No notes. Yeah. sounds Number three. It's official.
Debating the Bald Eagle's National Symbol Status
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Biden signs new law designating, designates bald eagle as national bird. I've heard all of about this and everybody's like, what is this? This is one of those, uh, what's it called? The Mandela effect. Yeah.
00:05:04
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Now, I would have sworn to Bald Eagle was the national bird, but I mean, I don't want to spoil it for y'all, but this really, this one's real. But if you know it's really, you can say it. But honestly, in that moment, I thought, wait, what about that is new? Is that not the national bird? Apparently it never was officially. I didn't go do the research, but it's real that it was never like,
00:05:27
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by law or officially or something. I'm probably getting that wrong. But see, that's stupid anyway. I mean, what is, you know, oh, a stamp of approval. It is official. The bald eagle. Right. Did we just renew our contract after a certain number of years? Like what was fake about it? It's all made up anyway. Oh, our national, you know, song is Celine Dion. I wish. It's just like, come on. There's a good trivia fact for those of you living in your particular state. Do you know what your national, what your state bird is? I know the state bird of Virginia. What is your diana? The state bird for Georgia.
00:06:10
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Oh, dang. I feel like I can see it. Virginia is the cardinal. It's something with an A. It's an oriole, isn't it? No, that's Marilyn. Okay, with the factoids. No, that's a joke. Baltimore Orioles. I don't know. I don't watch sports. I don't care about that. I don't believe you don't know who the Baltimore Orioles are.
00:06:35
Speaker
I know them, but they're not. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Before you look all that up before, let's, let's go ahead. We, I mean, it's a Brown Thrasher, which makes so much sense because our hockey team was the Thrashers. Oh, okay. Anyways, moving on. I needed to, okay.
Magnus Carlsen's Chess Championship Jeans Controversy
00:06:51
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So number three is real. We have no reason to believe number two is not real because that was kind of happening at the time. Number four,
00:07:00
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Magnus Carlsen plays in World Blitz Chess Championship after resolving Gene's controversy. Okay, so I think we've nailed down, and which I don't even think we needed to read out any more than number one anyway.
00:07:17
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That happened. If that one is real. The Magnus one is real. It is, yeah. No, no, no. The daylight. I'm already back to it. We know which one is fake. If that one is real, we need the morning brew people on immediately. I need to talk to somebody because that's bizarre. I just... And then eventually made the other three so believable. If it's the Olympic one,
00:07:48
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Then they're sitting there like on a gold mine. They're thinking, oh, we got him. Nobody's going to guess this. Because it's too stupid. They're thinking, yeah. But they're they're like, nobody's talked about the Olympic medals deteriorating. That happened in the moment and then we moved on. They'll totally believe it. What does deteriorating mean? ah those Those things aren't like solid gold. They it? When it happened.
00:08:13
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It was like a week later after he won the medals, not as used to. And I remember, and then a few other people were talking about it. Uh, yeah, it was almost like, you know, the gold had kind of scraped off. Like when something, you know, just wears down over time, but it was like a week later. I know. Times are tough. They're cutting corners. So we're going with number one, right? Got two. Obviously. I mean, three and four true. Lock it in. Okay.
00:08:46
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Okay, yeah, we made up the New Year's one. but Apologies to Wisconsin for catching straits. That is honestly a relief. um This one was super obvious after we just did all that gushing. It was. I mean, we can we can go back to last Thursday. Read the jeans one, though. What's the what's the jeans?
Dress Codes Debate: Chess vs. Hot Dog Eating
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Magnus Carlsen plays in the World Blitz Chess Championship after gene controversy. I don't know what. ah the I've already pulled off of it.
00:09:18
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But basically, he was wearing jeans and they said, you can't. We have a rule, you can't wear jeans. And he's like, so he said, okay, I won't play. Like, I just won't. And they're thinking, well, we need you. to No, you have to play. You're the guy. So they were like, you can wear jeans. It's fine. You know what? We need to relax our dress code anyway.
00:09:38
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So they were like, no, it's cool. And he's like, all right, I'll play again. And I'm going to wear jeans. What a hill to die on. Who cares? I mean, he wore you know like a blazer or something. it wasn't I mean, he's number one in the world, right? Yeah, he's the guy. What's he going? Yeah. No, I mean, I get it. I just think, all right, sweet flex, I guess. But like, they can't. It's it's Well, but well i I would say the same thing if I were him. Like, okay, I just won't play. Everybody already knows I'm the best. I don't, like, you're only hurting yourself. If you're going to give me all these stills to jump through. You're hurting the organization. yeah Don't you have some respect for what you're involved in?
00:10:19
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Right. That's like when you tried to show up at the golf course that time and cargo shorts and cut off shirts and a backwards hat. I'm like, no, Scott. That's a bad look all the way around. What are you doing? You look like you're going on a date. When I go to work, I can wear jeans. If I wear a nice shirt, like a button up, you know, you tuck your shirt in, your jeans. Because your work doesn't have the rule. Right, everywhere. They said you had to wear jeans.
00:10:44
Speaker
You're wearing jeans. Every organization has the right to decide if you're gonna be involved. Okay, well, to be fair, he said, okay, that's fine, I just won't play. But that's so, that's so petty. that's Is it not petty to to make him wear jeans? To be like, you can't play if you're wearing jeans. This is a prestigious event, and they're saying, let's maybe at least put on some. Who says it's prestigious? They do. Chess. Chess. They decide what what, you know,
00:11:11
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So it's not like this, oh, chess, you have to dress up to play chess. No, they just decided you had to dress up. Right, and then when you got involved, you knew that. Okay. Like in golf courses requiring college shirts. Right, but the thing is, it wasn't like, you know, all of a sudden he decided, you know what, I know they don't want me to, but I'm just going to wear jeans. Just see what they say. It wasn't like he just decided to be a rebel. Right. So what did he do? He just showed up late and was like, oh, this is all I got. I'm going to dig up the story.
00:11:42
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But that's what he does, too. That's his thing. He shows up late to his matches. Yeah, man, I don't think that has anything to do with jeans. No, definitely not. I mean, he knew. He's not dumb. That just sounds like you're a little full of yourself and you're just bored. I cannot believe that you're taking the stance and that you're agreeing with it. You're just agreeing to be agreeing. No, he's not. This is not that dramatic. If that's their rule. Right, then rock with it.
00:12:11
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But I don't see what the problem is with him saying, okay, I just won't play. Why is that petty? If he doesn't want to play, because he wants to wear jeans, so what? He ruined everything, sir. How did he ruin everything? He just didn't play. They can also play. It's just like people might have been paid good money to watch him play. Okay, that's not his fault.
00:12:30
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But a little bit. That's just like the NBA players wrestling. I can't stand it. Well, that's different. But do they not have a line up or a rotation where they're expecting you to be there because they need you to be a part of this bracket or whatever's going on? It's just like the hot dog. What's his name? That eats a gazillion hot dogs every year. Joey Chestnut. Joey Chestnut. Gross. He said, i don't I want to eat these hot dogs. And they said, no, you can't. You have to eat this brand. And he said, well, I'm i'm not going to do it.
00:13:00
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I mean, was there context there? What do you mean? That was their rule. They said, no, you have to eat this brand. He said, I don't want to. I just want to do it. I feel like that's different though. What's different? Explain what's the way he eats them. I don't think that affects the other participants the way you would if you're in a roster to play chess. There's been preemptive effort and organization. What about him wearing jeans affects the other people?
00:13:25
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If he can't play, you just screwed up the whole flow. Because of your pants, ya dork. What do you mean? What are you saying? Because he's out of the bracket, they have a hole to fill? Right.
00:13:37
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No, that's a very small issue. If they're like, oh, this guy's out, okay. Isn't he like a big deal though? And he's expected to go through and like- Yeah, he is. But so with Joey Chestnut, he wins every year. And he said, okay, well, if you're not going to let me eat these, then no, I won't do it. I feel like he might've had a good reason because the hot dogs really- Wait, wait, wait. The type really could affect how many he eats.
00:13:59
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Now, now you guys are going down the, you know... He might have had a good reason is what I'm saying. Magnus had no good reason not to play. Jeans are not a good enough reason to be a little... Oh, you know what? My sister calls people like that. I'm gonna say it and I love it because it cracks me up every time. This is a bad word. She calls them titty babies. He's being a titty baby. Go put on some pants and come down here and play chess.
00:14:25
Speaker
I just don't get the double standard that you guys are presenting where it's okay for Joey Chestnut to walk out. No, the hot dogs really could have impacted Joey's performance.
00:14:36
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Or just, I don't feel like it affects other people. Maybe they're made a little different. if So he's like, no, I can't. I'm not going to do it unless it's these. But if he chooses not to, I don't feel like that has a detrimental effect on the other participants of this contest. That's an individualized thing. They're both individualized things.
00:14:54
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Chess isn't, you have to play against somebody. Yeah, but your what you wear does not matter. No, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about his decision to not play affects others, including the person he was slotted to play against. Yeah, I know. You keep saying that. But again, that's a very small issue. We'll just get someone else. There are a ton of other chess players that want to play. We'll just fill your spot. That's not a big issue. We'll find someone to play against. Like, we'll put someone in the bracket. That's not an issue.
00:15:20
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Is that how it works? So, I don't, yeah, there's a ton of good chess players. I don't think there's like a- I know there are, but there's a- Well, call me. You probably have to qualify, right? You don't just like, is there a wait list? Is there a wait list? It would just be a forfeit. It would be a forfeit and that person would just get to move on. Right, that dude just gets to move on to the next round. It doesn't really, you know, I mean, it's the same as being like- I just don't think he had a reason to not play. Joey had a reason. Potentially.
00:15:48
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I think you guys are throwing out a double standard where it's like well, it's petty if he does it put it joe but you understand i'm saying potentially the brand and make of the hot dogs it was possibly because it was ah a Vegan thing he wanted to eat like vegan style see That's what I'm saying. If it was an ethical thing if it had something to do that's not even more people would argue It Well, sure, but I mean, similarly, what I mean, dress codes, what you could argue some people can make the same argument that, well, this is ethical for me. I'd have to hear that. I'd have to really hear that. I'm just saying, what? first a What does it matter if he eats, you know, those pants made out of vegan hot dogs, if they're the same, OK, let them eat those. They just.
00:16:34
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they This is one I would love to see some comments. I feel like taste that might would impact how quickly he eats them. That's bizarre. But if he doesn't want to consume animal products, if he's made the decision to be vegan. No, that's stupid. These taste like pork. I'm not going to eat as many. That's ridiculous. Anyway, okay. well Good bunny trail. um Let's move on from that.