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Episode 102: Back In The Same Room
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This week the boys are back together in the same room! They're chatting AEW Revolution, leather bound books filled with math equations and taste testing the new White Claw flavors.
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00:00:34
Speaker
Hey
Introduction and Episode Setup
00:00:35
Speaker
everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined. I'm your host, Garrett Callender. I'm your other host, Derek Halpin. And this is a big weekend that we're getting ready to preview here because once again, we are sitting across from each other in the living room of my apartment and we've got wrestling on the table this Saturday, AEW Revolution, but we've got some other stuff to talk about too. And you probably know that I'm gonna be pissed off when we talk about it too.
00:01:02
Speaker
Yeah But I don't really know what happened. I just I'm so excited to watch this Goldberg match Derek We are doing a regular episode right now. That's
Wrestling Events and Saudi Arabia Discussion
00:01:11
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what you're listening to but don't worry We've got plenty more content coming this weekend including we're gonna do a watch-along of the fiend versus Goldberg match from WWE Super Showdown live from Saudi Arabia
00:01:25
Speaker
All I've seen so far is just a photo of Bill Goldberg holding the belt. And I, one, didn't know the show was happening today. Two, did not know Goldberg was on the show. Three, who the fuck did Goldberg fight? A guy that you pegged for getting really bad Vince McMahon treatment months ago?
00:01:48
Speaker
I mean, you were Stolf Ziegler. Well, ironically, I think during Goldberg's last appearance, he fucking beat Dolph Ziegler. So yes, nobody is safe in WWE from Goldberg shenanigans. I will say one thing about these Saudi Arabia shows. If nothing else, Garrett, if nothing else, they are giving us content to talk about on the podcast. Is that fair to say?
00:02:12
Speaker
Oh, at the very, very least. There's always some kind of shit show match or somebody fucking up. There's always going to be shenanigans in Saudi Arabia. As soon as the news came out, our social media got lit up with people requesting
00:02:28
Speaker
to watch this Fiend Goldberg match. Primarily I think because people know that I get worked up talking about one Bill Goldberg. But also knowing that it's like the Saudi Arabia shows are just going to be a fucking beehive of bullshit for years to come. They're getting a lot of money out of it and we're gonna be getting some good shit to talk bad about, so.
00:02:50
Speaker
I really liked an idea that Chris from the curtain jerks had. He suggested that he said the match couldn't be any more than five minutes. So maybe we drink one white claw per minute of the Goldberg match. I'll be honest with you. That sounds fun, but I don't like the idea of chugging a white claw every minute. Like we will be fucked up from that.
00:03:12
Speaker
But you'll be hydrated. I
Goldberg’s Influence in WWE
00:03:14
Speaker
might be hydrated, but I don't know. I'm okay with shotgunning a beer or something every now and then. Do you realize you could just do one of every White Claw flavor throughout that Goldberg match? There aren't enough White Claws to make me want to watch Bill Goldberg shit. Yes,
Cats Movie and Cultural Commentary
00:03:31
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there is. I think right now, I think you secretly love Bill Goldberg. I think you've gone back around on it, yes.
00:03:39
Speaker
What makes you think that? Other than just saying it because it sounds funny. No, well, I am booking logic. I guess I'm just projecting onto you because typically if I dislike something, I always come back around to it. I'll dislike it long enough. Yes. It's one thing that has consistently driven me nuts since we started this podcast is that when things get bad, that's when you start caring. Well, that being said, like, I'm the guy that's very excited for a Cat's Midnight show.
00:04:07
Speaker
Yeah, why don't you explain to people how you are trying to keep this cats movie thing rolling and you're going to, I asked you just moments ago before we started recording, are you going to try to turn cats into the new Rocky Horror Picture Show movie craze?
00:04:22
Speaker
Well, I don't think like I personally can do that because I know a lot of places are already doing midnight shows of cats. But for Nashville's midnight show next weekend, I plan on painting kitty whiskers on my face because we have to set the bar. As to where what who's we the people like the people of Nashville, the people of Nashville, we need to set the precedent for what these other cat screenings are going to be like for the rest of time.
00:04:50
Speaker
Garrett, has there been any reports of people watching the Cats movie and going in with painted faces and maybe even a cat tail or two? I love the idea of the cat tail and see the fact that you have such good ideas for this makes me wonder why you're not part of it. I'm good at like adding things that enhance the experience but I don't mean I'm I have no interest in seeing the Cats movie Garrett. I think I only saw part of the original musical on a VHS tape when we were in grade school.
Musical Elements and Humor
00:05:20
Speaker
You've pretty much seen it then, I think. Except that one is probably less sexy. I just know that after you saw it, the same one that I saw, you couldn't get the words Mr. Mistoffelees out of your mouth fast enough upon seeing that movie. You loved saying Mr. Mistoffelees.
00:05:40
Speaker
Wait, Mr. Mistoffelees, was he the one that was bad at magic or good at magic? There was the magical Mr. Mistoffelees, I believe. Oh, yeah, the magical... He looked a little docked like Cat in the Hatty. Yeah, he sucks at magic. Like, there's some cats that have, like, real, like, wizard powers, but that one is just like a shitty magician. When did cats become Harry Potter? Don't question shit that you don't understand, Derek. That's
Demographics and Audience Engagement
00:06:04
Speaker
how you learn? No, it's like Angelica said in Rugrats, if you have to ask, you'll never know.
00:06:10
Speaker
Is it messed up that I remember that line, but like now as an adult analyzing that, that is fucking horrible advice to be giving children who are listening attentively. Who do you think the youngest listener we have is? Not, not like who are they, but like, yeah, actually, yeah. What's their story? If you're a child listening to this podcast, I think a fair question to ask would be, is there anyone under the age of 15 that listens to this podcast?
00:06:40
Speaker
Like I wish there was a way we could take like prop bets on this and wait for the information to roll in. Like all, remember when we got all those downloads out of Pennsylvania the other day? Yeah, I don't know. We just might've been a 12 year old that could have been, yeah, that was a whole grade school who thought it was funny. And he went on iTunes and typed in the word Jizz and came across, came across our podcast. And he's like, this isn't what I thought it was. They keep referring to a man as Jizz.
00:07:06
Speaker
that's what he sounds like in my head but he's then saw the man and was like oh yeah get it and now we've changed that person forever now jizz is an adjective not like the way Kevin Nash described this is where the big boys play huh
00:07:23
Speaker
Look at the adjective, play. That was the punch line for those who didn't know. Yeah. Can I tell you a weird thing that happened to me on the plane ride here, Garrett?
Personal Anecdotes and Observations
00:07:35
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For those who are listening to this podcast, Garrett literally arrived in Chicago.
00:07:41
Speaker
Two hours ago? Yeah. Two hours ago. We had to stop and get that boy some some Subway and some Sun Chips from that cookies. Yes. And the Sun Chips are important because my buddy Dan Staggs in college told me if you're eating Sun Chips, you're having a better day than somebody who's not eating Sun Chips. Do you believe that? I don't know if it's true, but I've always chosen Sun Chips if it's an option because of that statement. It's a little too grainy.
00:08:11
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Mm.
00:08:12
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Either way, I'm sitting on this plane. The guy in the middle seat, he pulls out a little leather brown book. He opens it up and it is just pages and pages and pages of handwritten math equations. And he's not writing anything, he's just looking at them. And all I could think the whole time is, well, this guy's fucking smarter than me and he's proven it.
00:08:43
Speaker
What am I supposed to do with that? Are you getting a little intimidated that there's a guy out there just openly being far more intelligent than you could ever hope to be? No. See, you may not get this reference. I don't think Garrett's ever seen an Indiana Jones movie, but I was going to say, is it fucking Dr. Jones's Grail Bible over there that we're looking at?
00:09:02
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now i've only not seen the last crusade that's the best one but he was riding a horse on the front and that bothered me he rides there's camels in there too for the longest time i referred to any movie that
00:09:19
Speaker
had a horse as a horsey movie and i just didn't like horsey movies mostly period pieces i've come back around the thing is is that's something i actually agree with you on like i i understood what you've been trying to convey for years when you say a horsey movie like and there's a certain tint to a lot of like western films that just immediately like like i'm like nope
00:09:41
Speaker
There's going to be a lot of, of empty like spaces in between the dialogue and just ambient noise. And I'm not in for that. Like I think that Westerns are like the worst fucking produced films out of Hollywood. Sorry. I know there's somebody that's upset about that. I don't care. This is our podcast.
00:09:58
Speaker
I mean, I don't necessarily agree with this anymore. You just gave them a fucking moniker. You called them horsey movies and then fucking struck them down. Like clearly you feel something similar. I am a fan of period pieces now. Okay. That's changed. That has changed. True grit, like your shit now. No, don't. I still have a lot of issues with the, I've got a lot of issues with the Duke.
00:10:23
Speaker
Let's hear him. Well, I'm not going to talk about the Duke's racism on our show. This isn't the platform for it. That's for our other podcast. Yeah.
00:10:33
Speaker
duking it. So how did we get on the subject of oh, Indiana Jones. Oh, no, you're on this plane and this guy had a leather bound book with math equations. Like he's fucking DaVinci coding some shit. That is what it was like it was he was a fucking beautiful mind on this plane just looking at all the math equations. And that if I carried around that little book and opened it, I probably would feel pretty badass too.
00:11:01
Speaker
I think it's so fucking funny how intimidated you are. You're just like, look at him over there being a math wizard. Just no shame. He has no shame. Well, and I'm sitting there watching Hobbs and Shaw on my phone. That's where you're at. Where I'm like, look at that. Fuck you, man. I'm not fine. I am dumb.
00:11:27
Speaker
Just because you're reading math equations doesn't make you better than me. How was the flight in besides that, Mrs. Lincoln? I got stuck on the plane for an hour. Very turbulent landing. Scary. Scary stuff. You fly a
AEW Chicago Shows and Event Anticipation
00:11:43
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lot, so are you used to turbulence? Or does it still get you queasy? I don't get turbulence that often. It doesn't happen, but this landing, man.
00:11:53
Speaker
Chicago airports. You made it. I think I think there was potholes in the runway. You've officially done O'Hare and Midway now. Yeah. What did you prefer? O'Hare has a dinosaur in it. That's all. O'Hare then obviously. Yeah, Midway had a lot of construction. Well, they're improving it. Maybe they'll get a wooly mammoth in there. I doubt it.
00:12:17
Speaker
You doubt it. I highly doubt it. I didn't see any signs that said that's what they were putting up. Can we, before we dive into the meat of this episode, can we talk about the fact that in less than, what are we? How far away are we from August?
00:12:39
Speaker
Why don't you ask the man with the leather bound book? He knows that off the top of his head. He definitely knows how far away August was. He counted invisible numbers in the sky. Well, I was going to ask because this would be the third AEW show in Chicago in six months.
00:12:56
Speaker
They did all out they did the dynamite and now they're doing revolution now. This is the first one I've made this clear before if you're from Chicago you understand this struggle the other shows were technically in Hoffman Estates and They are not going to differentiate that on the broadcast But there is a difference between downtown Chicago and the fucking burbs and this one is actually in downtown Chicago They're not lying to you this time
00:13:22
Speaker
I'm pretty excited about that. I'm excited to see a new arena. I just went down there the other day. It looks nice. Of course, as my roommate Christopher Kelly pointed out, and he will be joining us on one of these episodes this weekend. Should we bring him in on a deathmatch one or like what? I think there's several things we can baptize him in. Okay.
00:13:41
Speaker
I mean, he has sat in for recordings in this in this room. Oh, you can hear him laugh in the background of some of these. Yeah. But he pointed out the NBA All-Star game was here last weekend, like a little over a week ago. Yeah.
00:13:56
Speaker
Maybe it was a week ago. I don't know. But they did stuff at both the United Center and Wind Trust Arena. So I'm sure they had it looking sharp for all that. But it's already a new arena anyway. So it's
AEW Championship Match Debates
00:14:08
Speaker
small too. So it's going to be a fucking packed house that's on top of each other.
00:14:14
Speaker
for a hot show for okay I'll be completely honest with you when the pay-per-view was announced and the same thing happened for full gear was which was that their last that was the last show that damn I mean think about that that was back in November and that was where Cody had MJF turn on him yeah
00:14:36
Speaker
Damn. See, that feels so long ago. I wasn't super pumped to watch it, and then it ended up being awesome. And for Revolution, when you said that it was coming here, I was like, well, obviously, I'm gonna go to that with you. But I wasn't super, super pumped for it. There wasn't anything that was really getting me there, and now where this card has come to is insane.
00:15:02
Speaker
made it seem like you were pretty excited about the direction they were going with the hangman and the bucks and kenny stuff like like the breakup of the elite essentially is what it looks like oh i mean i'm as excited about that but i meant like as a whole like i didn't have like super high expectations for it but now i think i should
00:15:21
Speaker
Well, I don't think I know the whole card. It's C2 E2 weekend here in Chicago, which brilliant on there and just automatically throwing in like it like there's a whole other event that a lot of people who go to C2 E2 can now go to that like on a Saturday night. That would explain why they're not doing star cast with this one then. Right.
00:15:41
Speaker
There's already a thing built in and there's a lot of the guys are doing appearances over at C2E2. So yeah, it makes perfect sense. But this card, some of it has just come together in the last week or so, but it's looking pretty nice. So do you want me to start at the top, like the ones everyone knows and is talking about, or do you want to start at the bottom and go work our way up?
00:16:02
Speaker
I feel like if you start at the top and go down, I'm going to be surprised by some matches. So let's let's start at the top. Start at the top of the card. Obviously, we got the AEW Championship between Chris Jericho and Jon Moxley. How are you feeling about this? Because you've been telling me lately you've been falling in love with Moxley a little bit.
00:16:20
Speaker
I think they're gonna do really good shit. Just Moxley has been, after his New Japan Suzuki match, I'm Team Moxley. But I hope that this is the first time we get him without an eye patch. I'm hoping he's healed. I was hoping on Dynamite this week, which by the way, another superb episode of Dynamite.
00:16:39
Speaker
It is weird to think that we were recording on a Thursday, so we didn't even get the chance to do the immediate reaction to Dynamite. We're already diving into the pay-per-view, which is fine. Did you see that fucking Moxley busted open Jericho and gave him a bunch of stitches? I saw that, but I didn't see what happened. There was like, they were doing a weigh-in. And fucking Jericho was kind of doing the nido thing where he was disrobing slowly, and then between each article of clothing being removed, he was shit-talking the crowd.
00:17:08
Speaker
and then eventually he said something that Moxley and Moxley fucking headbutted him and he just started gushing blood and then he has like stitches in the middle of his face now. What? So, real talk. Is there any chance that Moxley's walking out of revolution with the title? Or are they going to continue the Jericho reign? That's a good question. Last chance because the exit's coming up.
00:17:35
Speaker
I would say because of the inner circle and Moxley doesn't have anyone on his side, I could see there being a whole mess of fuckery. Because they didn't even show Jeff Cobb with the inner circle on Wednesday. We don't know if he's officially signed. Was he just a hired guy? Oh, he's got to be signed, right? I saw they just signed Lance Archer. Yeah. But no, I don't know if I haven't seen if Cobb is officially there or not.
00:18:03
Speaker
I don't know what the right call is. Everyone is saying that Jericho's gonna keep the title. But it also seems like a big show and this is the main event. I just like like does it devalue the title at all if they hand it to Moxley now?
00:18:18
Speaker
don't think so. I mean, he's incredibly over. I mean, he is we had this debate not that long ago, like if not moxley, then the list of people who can compete for the title is take the title from Jericho is short. Because it can't be Cody. And it probably wouldn't be I mean, we've already decided it's not Kenny.
00:18:43
Speaker
It can't be Kenny. Well,
Tag Team Storylines and Betrayal Speculation
00:18:45
Speaker
it may be down the line. Well, that's what I'm saying is that it's either a commitment to them doing it way, way, way down the line with Kenny or I fuck. I don't know. That's why part of me thinks Moxley is winning. Like I have no problem being wrong, but I'll, how do you, how does Moxley come out of that with a loss and where you protect them?
00:19:07
Speaker
where he just gets the fuckery he just gets beat up by all the inner circle and he had no shot well i am excited about it they have worked together before so it's not like these are two guys you're like wondering like do they know what the other one does like they fucking got wwe experience man
00:19:25
Speaker
Do you think that it's gonna be like a Moxley style brawl like with weapons? Yes, think about the match that Jericho had with fucking Naito and with Well, even the one he had with Kenny at Wrestle Kingdom Yeah, and then know that Moxley is gonna be all on board for doing outside the ring shenanigans. I
00:19:47
Speaker
Well, I just I think back to that Steel Cage match they had where like the plant was up in the top. The Ambrose Asylum? The Ambrose Asylum where Jericho went through 69 thumbtacks. Yeah. They only thought it was 68. If you haven't heard the story, go find that shit on YouTube. It's funny. They thought it was 68 and they had them pull all those out for WWE video.
00:20:08
Speaker
and then when he went to the locker room and sat down he he jumped up really quick and screamed because there was one more attack in his trunks and he pushed it into his ass and that was the 69th attack but um yeah i mean i
00:20:26
Speaker
I think I agree with everybody in spirit that Jericho's probably going to retain the title, but I'm picking Moxley. I'll be that guy. I'll, I'll, I'll be the one that goes out on the, on the ledge and we'll see if I'm wrong. Here's one, AEW women's championship being decided between Nyla Rose and Chris Statlander.
00:20:47
Speaker
I say Nyla Rose retains. Oh, I think so too. Like Chris Statlander, I think right now is probably the best, one of the best things they have going for them. And she's pretty new and it's a hot commodity situation.
00:21:02
Speaker
Like they didn't just put the title on Nyla Rose for like what, three weeks? Yeah, I don't see her. I see her having a much longer reign and maybe even having like Rio come back to get it or I can't tell if they're still, I mean, I guess Britt Baker. Britt Baker's a heel, like.
00:21:22
Speaker
Again, everyone's pointed out that women's roster is really weird. I actually like Shanna. Like, I like Shanna. I like, um, uh, she-
00:21:34
Speaker
Why am I blanking? Why was it all like the Japanese names? I always fucking mix them up and I can't Heroki. Do you know who I'm talking about or are you not even going to try? All right, fine. No, I appreciate that you were trying like it. It's a brand new roster for you. It's a lot of new names to learn. But I feel this way even when I watch like a new Japan show, like so many of the names like in Japanese are so similar that like
00:22:01
Speaker
Yeah. I'll be honest, I never thought I would know as many Japanese names as I do now. Well, tell that to the guy with the leather bound book. Since I started watching New Japan, I've picked up a little bit of another language. But just the names. But just the names. Yeah, Nyla Rose. I mean, like, Statlander's over as hell. And I think she's going to be a star for them. Still working the indie scene too, so.
00:22:27
Speaker
Good for her. All right, let's get to this because I know you're excited to talk about it. Kenny Omega and Adam Page versus the Young Bucks for the tag team championships. This is the storyline match of the night, right? This could be the main event. Actually, I take that back. Cody versus MJF, which is we'll get into that in a second. That's another one.
00:22:44
Speaker
Honestly, that's why this is such a stacked card is because there's good stories happening on top of it. Oh, there's others. There's just straight up good matches down left, too. But I can't wait. I'm so excited for you to read me these matches. I'm going to see so. Every like I watched the guys over at WrestleTalk do their predictions for the show the other day, and they said they're convinced that Kenny and and Adam Page are going to retain the titles.
00:23:14
Speaker
that just straight up there's not gonna be like any fuckery. Like they're gonna just have a match. They're gonna keep this going. They're gonna keep this going. I guess it is kind of early into it. I'm just... Is it? They've been doing it for a while. But it's still working.
00:23:32
Speaker
Well, so is the Cody MJF stuff, but they're kind of, it is weird though. They did, like I said the other day, they, like they cashed in the chips on the Moxley Omega feud really quick. Like that escalated really quick. Yeah. His, his MJF wrestled much. Not really. And that's the other thing. AEW is doing a slow build, but they are building stars.
00:24:02
Speaker
Like when you think about like, I don't know if you saw the action figures that they put out. Oh yeah. Like all that stuff. It was kind of surreal to be like, holy shit. Like MJF has an action figure now.
00:24:16
Speaker
Well, I was just talking to my dad today about like a lot of these wrestlers that we started watching at the beginning of this show and where they've all come and how even guys like Nick Gage have come further in a wrestling like AAW shows now and like you're seeing them all over the place. Yeah. And fucking like actually just today I was talking to my dad about this and saying like, yeah, fucking Ricochet just wrestled Brock Lesnar in Saudi Arabia, I think.
00:24:46
Speaker
It's like I used to, every time I see that guy talk about the quilt museum in Paducah, Kentucky. A band from Alton, Illinois. I'm really looking forward to this. And I want there to be, I mean, there's gotta, I think there's gonna be a turn. There's gotta be something. Maybe Adam walks out on Kenny since, I mean, they've been doing everything in their power.
00:25:12
Speaker
How badass would it be though if they do the same thing that's been happening where something happens to Kenny and a hangman just basically beats the bucks on his own?
00:25:25
Speaker
man that this is to me okay so this is like wrestling at its best and I tie this back into super showdown I made this point to somebody the other day after the I saw the result not that I needed to of the ricochet Brock Lesnar match and everyone's reaction to it was like what was even the point
00:25:46
Speaker
They didn't really make money with the match. It didn't help Lesnar. It didn't help Ricochet. It just a thing happened. It was a minute and 20 seconds, I think. And I'm guessing Ricochet took a couple of suplexes. One F5 and it was over. And my question, like why bother? But then there's this side of things, which is this is wrestling at its best. We've collectively watched so many hours of wrestling. I don't know what's going to happen here.
00:26:14
Speaker
they have that tension but you don't know when they're gonna pull the trigger and there's always the possibility they could just pull it back and maybe things will be okay that that would be another unexpected outcome if it just ends where they don't break up the elite right they work things out i'm just i'm so excited to see hangman like that guy is such a star to me now he's he could be the main event how about the thing that nobody's talking about with this match what if it's
00:26:45
Speaker
What if it's as it appears but the thing that nobody's talking about? What if it's actually the Bucks turning heel? I see, I thought about that the other day. They were the best fucking heels at PWG. The best. I hated them. I was on team, you know, when it was let's go young Bucks, I was team fuck the young Bucks.
00:27:06
Speaker
And I started thinking about telling you at that ROH show, oh, I'm going to boo the shit out of these guys. We're going to have so much fun. But you entered Bizarro Land, Chicago, where the heels are over as baby faces. Yeah, they were just baby faces. And then like out of nowhere, I'm like, whoo, young bucks.
Dark Order Leadership Theories
00:27:24
Speaker
That was the show where everything turned around. I mean, think about it. They've been they've been the ones that have essentially been flocking to Kenny.
00:27:32
Speaker
and showering him with praise and congratulations and essentially ignoring fucking Hangman. They've been pushing him out. And yes, Hangman's been a dick and kind of turned into alcohol, but... But Kenny needs to be a better friend and tell the bucks like, you need to quit sucking my dick so much. Inclusive. Inclusive. Why are we ignoring him? You just invite him in at the end of the thing? Like that would be the ultimate thing. Just real quick.
00:28:01
Speaker
Can we have a couple white claws? Yeah. Garrett, hold down the fort while I get some claws. So Derek stocked the fridge with some claws. He got the, uh, the round two version of the multi-pack. What flavor are we going for? I would love a watermelon. We're going to get to hear Derek crack open a watermelon for the first time. It'll sound the same, but see how it tastes.
00:28:31
Speaker
all right I guess do we do it in sync or do we do it separately so they get to enjoy it twice three two one I tried to do it in stereo it's cool because I'm watching the
00:28:47
Speaker
I'm watching the audio over there and, uh, definitely peaked. Watermelon things just usually aren't the best flavor. I think this is a good one. So crisp. Isn't that nice? That's nice. I can't wait till it's like 50 degrees warmer than it is right now. Oh man. Yeah. Like the only other watermelon thing I can think of that I do enjoy is like watermelon, laffy taffy.
00:29:10
Speaker
Watermelon, I like watermelon Jolly Ranchers. Okay. You ever had a, okay, I got you. I don't know if you agree or if you're just accepting what I said. You ever had a watermelon bubble tea? I have. Trash. I didn't mind it. The one I had was bad. I know that for a short time at Taco, maybe they still have it, but at Taco Bell, they had a watermelon like freeze or a slush that included watermelon seed candy in there.
00:29:39
Speaker
Enjoyed that so maybe I just straight-up enjoy watermelon things way more than I thought
00:29:44
Speaker
I found out that one of my managers goes to Taco Bell three times a week to get a Mexican pizza. He described it to me today. He seemed the happiest I'd ever seen anyone. That's, I mean, I know that all the shit on the menu is essentially the same, but that's something I would definitely not order as the Mexican pizza. I thought he seemed- Don't turn out supreme like a normal person. I'll be honest. I thought he was going to be fancier than Taco Bell. Now that I know every day when he disappears, he's going to Taco Bell. More respect. More energy? No, more respect. Are you a T-Bell guy?
00:30:14
Speaker
I mean, I'll go from time to time. Yeah, I go to T-Bell from time to time, too. Well, you've got a cantina. I've got one near my work downtown and I have one in my neighborhood. So it's been a couple weeks since I've had the bell, but I'm overdue.
00:30:27
Speaker
I agree with the Jeffy wrestling though. They change their menu too much. Every time I go there, I have no idea what's going to be on that thing. Well, I think there's key elements of the Taco Bell menu that need to be rotated. Like that $5 box is in constant flux. And I think that's the way it's supposed to be. And then their rendition of the McRib are those goddamn nacho fries. They like putting them on the menu, letting people remember that it's essentially a seasoned fry. It tastes delicious, but they take it away for a little while and then they bring it back.
00:30:57
Speaker
We really need to get Alex Zane on this podcast to discuss the Taco Bell menu. Well, let me tell you something, Garrett. I'm contemplating very strongly, like almost a certainty that I will be going to freelance wrestling next Friday. That card is fucking stacked. Where Zane shall be wrestling and I will be in attendance.
00:31:21
Speaker
If that guy is selling t-shirts, grab me one. You want me to grab you an Alex Zane t-shirt? I've never been in a room where he's selling t-shirts. I feel a little dirty committing any kind of loyalty violation to another man named Zane. Did you ever think about that? I had to legitimately think of who the other one was. Like, what are you talking about? Alex Zane is my Zane. Not related to Sammy Zane. He's a hell of a Zane.
00:31:50
Speaker
So are the Bucks turning? Like what's happening in this tag match after the Taco Bell-White Claw intermission? Brought to you by White Claw and Taco Bell. Well, I like your idea that they all just become friends and stick together and that's the big surprise. That's the story. Now, I do hope that if they lose that we get to see Hangman just knock Kenny Omega's hat off. But that's only because I want to see Kenny versus Hangman.
00:32:15
Speaker
So this is as good a time as any to bring this up. I mean, we'll get to some more matches here in a second, but I texted you the other night during dynamite and I told you that there are rumors that Matt Hardy could be headed to AEW because this WWE contract is coming up this weekend. And Dark Order has been hinting that their fucking leader is going to be arriving any day now.
00:32:42
Speaker
Could be Lance Archer. It could be Matt Hardy. Think of all of the vignettes they've been airing for Dark Order of people who are troubled and feeling isolated. It's fucking Hangman. No. You really think so? I know that they have planted the seeds.
AEW Revolution Match Previews
00:33:06
Speaker
Like Hangman turning heel has been like the obvious option this whole time.
00:33:15
Speaker
like he's got a substance abuse problem maybe he needs maybe he needs a heater maybe he needs to heal a faction to work with that'll make him truly detestable because that's the thing people are having a hard time hating hangman right now he's too cool if you put him with fucking dark order he's a little less cool and that makes him way more hateable
00:33:37
Speaker
that if there is one thing you said that is very correct and is if hangman goes to dark order he is slightly less cool yeah I those guys just aren't cool
00:33:48
Speaker
They're just super uncool. Does broken Matt Hardy being their leader make them cool? It makes more sense. And I do like that. Do you think this was all originally supposed to be leading up to Dark Order having a leader? Or do you think Dark Order wasn't working and they're like, we got to get somebody bigger than Dark Order wasn't working?
00:34:07
Speaker
This is one of those where if you're being fair to WWE, you gotta let AEW have it a little bit here because I don't know why that act, they thought they could just push out on TV and thought, well, people will get it. People know what that is. And you and I just at home were like, it's the gimp, it's a sex cult, clearly.
00:34:29
Speaker
And they were like, well, no, that's not, it's something deeper than that. I'm like, I don't know. Guy looks like the guy from God of War and the other guy looks like a fat version of the gimp. No, the other guy looks like he'd be in the Viking Raiders. Sure. He's the lost one. He wound up on the wrong show and they were just like, sure, whatever, it's wrestling. Three's a crowd, they said.
00:34:50
Speaker
Go form a sex cult. No, Dark Order. The thing is, I think it's working. I do think the way they repackaged it, or they are a cult.
00:35:01
Speaker
that is targeting people who are troubled. I think that actually got them somewhere. I don't know if it's gonna work. I didn't know the Eric Cannon stuff until you told me about it at freelance a couple weeks ago. I had no idea that those punches that were thrown, that was a big story, what, two months ago? Yeah. Sorry if I'm late to the party on this, but apparently the guy who was throwing really shitty punches was Eric Cannon, and everyone else knew this but me. I'm sorry.
00:35:32
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think Dark Order's working, but I think it's working better than it was, and I think if they do inject another member in there that makes you care, you have no choice but to care. I just don't see Hangman Page being like, I've been hanging out with these fucking sex weirdos, and now I'm gonna kick all your asses.
00:35:54
Speaker
You doubted Hangman one time before. And here we are. Let's fast forward to six months from now where Garrett's got two Dark Order shirts. Two foam finger, one foam finger on each. Speaking of foam fingers, did you see what foam fingers they have available now on prowrestlingteas.com and maybe at AEW events?
00:36:19
Speaker
They have Orange Cassidy thumbs up foam fingers. That looked like just the little thumbs up. I turned to my girlfriend when I was browsing the website and saw that and said, if they're selling those, I'm getting one. I mean it. Do you think Orange Cassidy is starting to get over more with Jim Ross or do you think he still hates it? Look, I'm going to tell you.
00:36:45
Speaker
There's no way that Jim Ross didn't watch that segment on Wednesday where they put the fucking glasses on Tony Schiavone, and then Schiavone got the thumbs up, and then they all did the best friends hug to Tony Schiavone. There's no way that Jim Ross didn't crack a smile and enjoy the ever-loving shit out of it. I just love every time they do the hug, hearing Excalibur say, give the people what they want.
00:37:12
Speaker
What was funny about the line on Dynamite was your boy Chuckie T saying, this time he's gonna try. And the crowd goes ape shit and fucking Jim Ross makes some comment. Well, yeah, that's the idea, right? He needs to calm down on Orange Cassidy.
00:37:35
Speaker
I think he's going to do the opposite of calm down if they let, if they unleash the Orange Cassidy that it really we know can go. Jim Ross is going to be a fan. Just think about Orange Cassidy's next couple months. So he's got Pac this weekend. What mania weekend he's got Minoru Suzuki.
00:37:59
Speaker
I don't know what you were doing during the show, but when I, you were being quiet for a little while, and then I text you, holy shit, we're getting Orange Cassidy versus Pac. You immediately responded to that text. That got a response out of you. That's insane. It's crazy. Speaking to the rest of that card. We are getting Orange Cassidy versus Pac, which by the way,
00:38:24
Speaker
No joke. As soon as that was announced, that immediately shot up to the top of the list of all the things I'm looking forward to on that show. That's number one. That could be the hot opener. That. Oh my God.
00:38:39
Speaker
Yes, please. It's his first AEW match. Can we just do the pro wrestling rules and say that he has to win during his debut match? Can we please just follow that? Because Pac being absolutely distraught that he lost to Orange Cassidy is hilarious. What if it is just a squash match though and Orange Cassidy loses almost immediately? I mean, that's a possibility, dude. And that sounds great too.
00:39:05
Speaker
He'll take it in stride. He'll look so disappointed, but shrug it off. What's the difference between Orange Cassidy not giving a fuck and looking disappointed? This time he's gonna try. Yeah, Cody versus MJF. This is a well-told story that played out over several months.
00:39:33
Speaker
Can Maxwell, can Cody carry Maxwell Jacob Friedman to a really good match? Yeah. You think this is going to be a good match? I think at this point, Cody has proven to me that he can do a really good match with anybody and tell, and he's already got the story. As long as Cody has the story, the match will be fine. No way MJF's losing, right? Wow. Just think if MJF is the one that's bleeding all over the place in this one.
00:40:00
Speaker
like god is that like he's gonna be the one who gets like his ass kicked like you're gonna get the satisfaction of seeing him get the shit kicked out of him but shenanigans mjf win then he gets to be shitty about that it's funny because there's really like no steak like it feels like this is a bigger match like it's for something there's definitely gonna be more than one of these right
00:40:24
Speaker
Like there's eventually going to have to be a Cody versus MJF match where the stipulation is that if Cody can win, he gets the right to challenge for the title again. I mean, that's ultimately one day where that's going to have to wind up. You're right. I forgot that it was. Maxwell fucked him out of it. Yeah. I mean, technically Jericho might hold the keys to that stipulation, but it would make sense for it to come back with retribution over MJF.
00:40:51
Speaker
I'm looking forward to the match. It wasn't that I was doubting that Cody could, it's just, we've seen, like you pointed out, we've seen so little of MJF actually wrestling. Like the only match that comes to mind isn't even a match that, I remember he opened all out or all in. He did, he was Matt Cross versus MJF. Yeah. He did that tag match at whatever the, someone's place, tiniest place, whatever in,
00:41:20
Speaker
in Tampa, right? No, in Jacksonville. You mean the weird venue that's at an angle of the like concert venue? Yes. Yeah. He was in a tag match with a guy that, uh, Tully's man. Why am I blanking on everybody's name tonight? I'm trying. I have no idea who you're talking about. Um, Ty Dillinger. Oh yeah. Fucking. Where's he?
00:41:48
Speaker
He's been gone for a little bit. He was in a feud with Joey Janela there for a little bit. Yeah. Oh, does Joey have a man? No, no, Joey. No, Joey.
00:42:00
Speaker
Yeah, keep going, because I got to know what I'm watching. So we're going to get a payoff. Jake Hager's first match against Dustin Rhodes. OK. So you're getting Jack Swagger versus Goldust for free. Didn't have to pay a thing. Didn't have to pay a single thing. It's on the card. Unless you're on pay-per-view. But we're going to see if Jake Hager has a reinvented move set. Like if he tries to do some more Brock Lesnar MMA type shit. And Dustin Rhodes has been motivated as fuck since he's been in AEW.
00:42:30
Speaker
Yeah, there's no reason why that can't be a good match. This is one you probably don't know about. Darby Allen versus Sammy Guevara.
00:42:40
Speaker
They've been having a little mini feud on the outskirts of the Jericho Moxley thing where Darby's a somewhat ally to Moxley as far as respect goes. Man, those are two guys of similar size. Love doing a lot of high spots. That could be the hot opener.
00:43:02
Speaker
Yeah, because you get Darby Allen doing several spots where it looks like he's going to die. Well, Sammy's flipping around. I feel like the key to a good wrestling show is if you're going to do that first match, the first match, the baby face character, their music has to hit to get like the fucking crowd going. And then you get the heel to come out like that's just that's just science.
00:43:24
Speaker
And the crowd just loves Darby right now. They do. Again, I'm mystified.
Wrestling Divisions and Show Structure
00:43:30
Speaker
Darby's still right there with Dark Order as far as I'm concerned. But y'all seem to like him, so you get him. I wonder if Samuel wears fucking Panda Bear costume. It's a pay-per-view. You gotta break out the Panda Bear. Especially if you got a singles match at a pay-per-view.
00:43:48
Speaker
Pre-show, there is a pre-show. I was gonna say there has to be some women's matches. So Cal and Censored taking on the Dark Order. I may be buying my Orange Cassidy foam finger while that's still going on.
00:44:04
Speaker
Can we once again just plug how delicious this watermelon white claw is? If you haven't already, go to your local grocery store and pick up that new pack. Yeah. Cause we want to, if these got to keep doing good, if we want to want them to keep making them. Yep. That pumpkin spice white claw is still a possibility next fall. If we Garrett shaking his head. Oh, like this isn't me shaking my head. No, this is like, yeah, you gotta, you gotta push it. You gotta push. What other flavors do you want Garrett? If you could pick two new flavors to add to the, to the rotation.
00:44:34
Speaker
I would like a blackberry. You want a blackberry? That's my favorite berry. What about blueberry? No. It's not a blueberry. I would not. Is there... There is a raspberry, right? I bet they could do a pretty good version of Paul McGrannett. I'm gonna go... It sounds like you said Paul McGrannett. Paul McGrannett. Paul McGrannett. I think I did. Now you've got me questioning how I said Paul McGrannett. That was the fifth beetle.
00:45:04
Speaker
Paul McGrannett. So what comes in this packet? We've got mango, lemon, watermelon, and tangerine. Yeah. Lemon is my least favorite.
00:45:20
Speaker
I'm going to try lemon because I if I recall correctly, you don't like lemon starburst, right? No, that's my favorite starburst. That way you wrote it into that script with with the guy in prison. That was his favorite flavor. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. I don't remember what I vaguely remembers the script. Garrett was working on a script when we were in high school where the theme was we were stoner cops.
00:45:42
Speaker
That sounds about right. And the idea was that somehow we looked into getting jobs as police officers, despite the fact that we were completely unqualified. And I think my big sticking point in the script that you didn't like is the idea. It was essentially the plot to what became that Vince Vaughn movie where it was called The Watch.
00:46:02
Speaker
And we just liked the idea of normal dudes having jobs where they have positions of power and then suddenly the shit hits the fan and there's monsters. And in the script, I kept pushing for the cloud creature with the horns and the single eye in the cloud from Kirby, like Kirby's Dream Land. I wanted that monster specifically. And I remember in a very serious manner telling you, we'll never get the rights.
00:46:33
Speaker
I damn near spit out my watermelon white claw. Because yes, you did. That was your big thing. Like you would throw up your hands and be like, even if I wanted it, Derek, we'll never get the rights. They won't just give me cloud man. Like Nintendo.
00:46:51
Speaker
And I was like, what? What is this movie? You're not actually making a Kirby movie, but you want Kirby villains? It's like, yeah, it's a stoner cop movie. Anyways, one of the characters in the movie, you had a guy in prison who siphoned. What was the deal? He gave his clean urine specimen in exchange for the lemon starburst, because those were his favorite.
00:47:18
Speaker
And I had this argument recently with somebody where I was telling, because somebody was like, nobody likes the lemons. And I was like, I think the lemons are my favorite. Fuck you. Everyone likes the pinks. Everyone fights for the pink starburst. See, I thought I was always lucky because I would I wanted the lemons and everybody wanted to toss those to the side. So bring them on right here. Right in the mouth. Delicious. But you don't like lemon white claw.
00:47:39
Speaker
No, I don't like, uh, I like lemon flavored things. Like I like a lemon bar. Uh, but I don't like when, if somebody brings me a glass of water with a slice of lemon in it, that water's been contaminated. Do you like Sprite? I like lemon and lime mixed together. That's different. That's true. Are there, what other, did you like lemon meringue pie? Yeah.
00:48:05
Speaker
I just don't want a fucking slice of lemon in my water, okay, Derek? I've learned that there's quite a few people who just don't grow up and they can't just have a drink that doesn't have any kind of flavor in it. So that's what the lemon's for.
AEW Women’s Division Challenges
00:48:20
Speaker
People go, oh, you want a water? You sure you don't want a little something extra in there? Shut the fuck up.
00:48:27
Speaker
Not at me. That was me yelling at a server. You were doing an act. It was a bit. It was a bit. Didn't work. I thought it was okay. What other matches are happening? That's the AEW Revolution card. Wait, the pre-show is just Dark Order versus what I just read on Bleacher Report. You seem disappointed now. Well, I figured there'd be like three pre-show matches.
00:48:50
Speaker
So for those who were hoping that we were being more women's matches on this card, nope, you're getting one. So you can continue being angry with AEW. But it is one I'm looking forward to. That's important.
00:49:01
Speaker
I think if I get in defense of AEW, I think we take for granted that WWE had a long time to build up their women's division with really good pieces. And people just showed up on day one with like, you said that AEW was going to have a women's division and there's no NXT.
00:49:26
Speaker
There is no developmental. They're basically going after the indie stars that WWE doesn't get. When you put it into perspective, it's not that bad. They've probably been on air since, fuck it, when did they start? When did Dynamite start? Was it like October? I wish you guys could have seen Derek's face as he talked himself into realizing he likes the women's division. It's not that I like it, it's just that I think
00:49:54
Speaker
They still WWE like, especially going into this WrestleMania, they're clearly trying to make the next wave of women's stars. That's why you've got Becky working with Shayna Baszler. It's why you've got Charlotte working with Rhea Ripley. Like they're there. I hate to break it to the rest of the women's roster in WWE. Some of y'all ain't going to be around a year from now because they're going to be adding a couple of people to the main shows and cutting some other people.
00:50:24
Speaker
That's what they're setting Rhea Ripley and fucking Shayna Baszler up for. AEW has got some work to do. And you were the first person to be like, actually, I don't think Britt Baker's as good as people say she is. You said that like week two.
00:50:40
Speaker
I remember her having a very bocce match. And I don't think you're wrong. I think there's work to be done there. But for those of you who are just like, just make half the card women's matches. I'm like, that would be disastrous for whatever card that is because nobody would give a shit. Have you been in touch with this fucking Nyla Rose controversy?
00:51:02
Speaker
what what's the controversy she has the title that's the controversy I don't think there's like fucking Cody and everyone in Jericho been fucking handling it like like gladiators taking on the the transphobia there's people who aren't happy about it Garrett you know that why I assume there were people that weren't happy but it's pro wrestling and I think it's kind of awesome yeah
00:51:32
Speaker
I don't even know what to say. I was hoping I could drag some more. You're like, I'm so beyond that that it doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect me either. I
Humor and Style of the Podcast
00:51:41
Speaker
just didn't know if you had any thoughts on the controversy around it because, I mean, it is technically, neither Rose is the first trans champion that we know of, right? Period of any kind. I would think so.
00:51:58
Speaker
I think that's fuckin' rad. I think that's fuckin' awesome. Do you think I'm gonna say the opposite? Is that why you're flaggin' the ground? No, I don't. No, it seemed like you were trying to get me to be like... It seemed like you were trying to treat this like a Joe Rogan podcast and bring on a guest that was gonna say something controversial. How do you feel about it? I was hopin' I could... And you were... I don't have a controversial opinion. My opinion is that it's awesome and that I'm very happy for it. That's a boring fuckin' answer, but if it's the truth, I'll take it.
00:52:40
Speaker
Derek's refrigerator is covered in pro wrestling shit. He's got a picture of DDP that says DDP is watching you eat shitty food. And then also a collage of Joey Ryan.
00:53:04
Speaker
they probably didn't know the revolution to why do you he needs this microphone back because i need to know why he has the joey ryan uh mural so i don't know if garrett did a good job of narrating that exchange that we just had but as i got up to go to the fridge and get us some new white you didn't even wait he didn't even wait like a gentleman he just fucking cracked it and it tastes like um you could have exploded in your face and i would have been fine with it
00:53:32
Speaker
To me, this tastes like Lysol. I'll confirm or deny. My finger went in it. Fuck yeah. Maybe that'll add some flavor. Alright, let me... Your Pine-Sol. The smell... Well, here's the thing. I actually think that lemon Pine-Sol smells delicious. But I like lemon stuff, so here we go.
00:54:01
Speaker
I love that. That's really, really good. See, I think this is going to be one that if you like lemon stuff, you'll probably really. Yeah, no, totally. That tastes like a like a watered down lemonade to me.
00:54:16
Speaker
So this is just the White Claw version of Mike's army. So this, yeah, I feel like your opinion on this was more controversial than anything we had to say about Nyla Rose. No, I don't and I don't have anything to add to that. I just feel like people should
00:54:37
Speaker
I guess maybe once again we have to address the fact that maybe sometimes I try to steer this podcast in the direction of let's have this hard-hitting discussion and you're just like no and you pull the wheel back this way you're like we're goofy cum jokes over here. Laugh at the jizz. I don't know. I don't think we've ever had any feedback from our listeners that's basically like you guys are supposed to talk about this thing.
00:55:04
Speaker
And this week, you didn't talk about that stuff. You talked about hard-hitting stuff.
Goldberg and Current WWE Storylines
00:55:08
Speaker
No, I appreciate that you guys don't bust our balls and just let us talk about what we want, and you keep showing up every week anyway. I think the idea when we started the podcast was that it was supposed to be a free-flowing form of communication. And the idea was it's like you're hanging out with us on a sofa, like the one you're sitting in front of. And where the conversation may roam, sometimes it's serious.
00:55:34
Speaker
I'm not even, we'll, we'll talk about this when the podcast is off the air. Cause it's not even, it doesn't even work for the show. Um, it's, it's the year 2020. And no matter how many times we talk about it on, on the podcast, no matter how many times I try to get it out of my system. The reality is that two of my favorite wrestlers in WWE over the last five to six years have been fucking squashed by Bill Goldberg.
00:56:06
Speaker
And Goldberg is a champion in the year 2020, no matter how much I don't like it. And I'm not fucking happy about it. But I can't wait to see this fucking match. I can.
00:56:24
Speaker
Do you remember how fun it was when Bill Goldberg was in Saudi Arabia last time? And Undertaker had to give the fucking resting bitch face look to the camera like, this is the WCW guy that everyone's excited about. He had the look of that gymnast a few years ago when she won the silver medal and like had that like side like, hmm.
00:56:47
Speaker
How excited would you be if I found, if you found out from me that we were going to have a guest on the podcast, who was a big fucking deal. Like what, if you had rolled into town this weekend and I said, Garrett, we get to do a fucking interview with somebody. I'd immediately be nervous. And then you walked in here and it was fucking Undertaker. And that was our big interview.
00:57:10
Speaker
Would you ask him about the fucking Joey Ryan penis? Druids? I wouldn't know what to ask, Undertaker. Would you be scared? Yes! Not like because he's a spooky man, but just because of social anxiety and not being prepared to interview- Like, I think that would be fucked up of you to just be like, surprise Undertaker's ear! Mark Callaway!
00:57:30
Speaker
The man himself. Hey man! What would you do if you found out he was a big fan of the show? Well, I did work with his son for a minute. Yeah, he did.
00:57:43
Speaker
I hope that we can get that spread to Undertaker. I think we could say something to make him laugh. I absolutely think we could. I think he would have agreed with everything we had to say about his Bill Goldberg match. Would you do the watch along again with him if we had him on the podcast?
00:58:04
Speaker
What's going through your mind right here? What's going through my mind is I'm goddamn Saudi Arabia and Bill Goldberg's dumping me on my head. It's 110 fucking degrees and that dumb motherfucker ran his head into the post again. Did he bleed?
00:58:22
Speaker
I think he did. Or did he just knock himself stupid? I don't even remember. He's already stupid as shit, so. I did see that after Goldberg won, did you see Scott Hall's tweet? Yeah, I fucking retweeted it. I retweeted it and I tweeted at him and said, please, pretty please. Scott Hall said he was going to have to dust off his old taser to take care of Bill Goldberg. And damn near gave me the biggest erection I've ever had because fuck.
00:58:51
Speaker
So are you telling me, though, that this is leading to Roman Reigns versus Bill Goldberg at WrestleMania? It has to be. What the fuck else could it be? Can I tell you that I like that? Would that upset you? Yeah, it does. You know I like Roman Reigns now. No, you don't! You only say you like Roman Reigns because it's funny.
00:59:16
Speaker
I think I just like Roman Reigns. No, you don't even watch main roster stuff that's not NXT. But if I did, I'd tune into some Roman Reigns. If you did, you don't. You are busy on Friday nights going to shows that I can't even fathom. Wait, is... Yeah. Is he on SmackDown? Yeah, see, you don't fucking watch. Oh no, he's a raw guy through and through. No, Roman is a SmackDown dude, if there ever was one.
00:59:46
Speaker
I like Spear versus Spear, and I like Roman Reigns walking out of the main event of WrestleMania with that, but it won't be the main event, because it's the SmackDown title. Yeah, you and these shit opinions are the reason that continues to happen. Not you specifically, but there's always that, I think it's a good idea. Vince McMahon listens to this, he's like, see? See? Half the people say it's great. Even the Marx like it.
01:00:20
Speaker
Are we technically smarks? I don't know how the fuck that works. No. If we were smarks, we would be walking around with that little notebook filled with equations. That guy's a fucking smark. Under flight. How bad would you feel about yourself if you spoke to that guy and he was really nice and he knew way more about pro wrestling than you did on top of having that fucking...
01:00:43
Speaker
Also, this is the equation that cures cancer. Actually, middle finger to me. You ever watch any AWA stuff? On his computer? I'll show you some good stuff. I don't know, man. We're in a weird state where it's like, WWE can completely disregard putting out good content because they're making so much money from Fox and Saudi Arabia.
XFL vs. WWE Quality Discussion
01:01:09
Speaker
I mean, they're going to be living off of these deals probably until Vince dies. I have to work this into the podcast because I said this to my roommate, Chris, earlier in the day. I said to him, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart, so digest this. I said to him, I never thought I would live to see the day where I can out loud say that Vince McMahon is better at football than he is at pro wrestling. And it be completely true.
01:01:39
Speaker
Because I believe that I believe that the XFL is a better product than WWE.
01:01:49
Speaker
for what it is. Hey, my parents are going to an XFL game on Saturday. I hear that downstate Illinois and Missouri are absolutely ape shit crazy for the battle. They wanted a football team and they got the dumbest name ever and they're fucking into it. Is it the dumbest? Yeah. My dad says he refuses to do that. And I said, you wait till you're in that stadium, man. It's going to take you over and you're just going to do it.
01:02:16
Speaker
Did I meant to ask you this, this is old news. Did your dad shed a tear when the Blues won the cup? I don't think he did. That's a shame. I did. Did you shed a tear? Oh, there's fucking video of it. That's adorable. There is literally a video of me standing in front of the TV just like crying and being like, I just never thought it would happen. I saw the Hawks win three cups. I don't recall shedding a single tear. You didn't have to.
01:02:48
Speaker
Well, we beat your ass the other day and by beat your ass, we beat you by one point, but it was actually a very good game. Exciting back and forth bullshit that we came up on the wrong end of because we don't have a GM that knows what he's doing. We're talking about fake sports on this podcast, not real sports, Garrett. Do you think it's possible? Predetermined sports, please. Predetermined sports. Is that what the XFL is? Is that predetermined?
01:03:19
Speaker
Huh? I hope not. And if it is nobody's thought of it until now, I mean it is run by that WWE guy.
Listener Engagement and Future Content
01:03:28
Speaker
Can we do, we've been getting requests for watch alongs out the ass or at least matches for us to like check out for the show. Do you think we could do a watch along from a Gruber?
01:03:41
Speaker
You mean, that isn't a watch-along, that is just an audio commentary for a movie that... That's fine. If you want... Derek has a copy of MacGruber sitting on his table right here. You can't tell me that you can't tie that back into wrestling. Le Champillon was in that movie. I'm surprised no one suggested that just to put us through 90 minutes of a movie. Derek did. Did you see that they're making a MacGruber TV show? Okay, so this came up here the other day. My roommate asked...
01:04:12
Speaker
Did you know they're making a MacGruber too? And I said, I stopped. I was like, no, they're not. Cause that movie did not do well in theaters. There's no way they're diving. It was like, well, I think they're doing MacGruber too, or at least a TV show. So they are doing a MacGruber TV show like officially. Yeah. Like Netflix. Um, it's going to be one of the streaming services. I don't remember which.
01:04:37
Speaker
What showed it was that last man on earth that he was. God, that show was so fucking funny. I've I remember watching the first season. Dude, that was I stand by. That's one of the funniest shows I've ever seen. I wish that had gotten more seasons. I don't know why we're talking about it right now, but I like it. Well, because I was pushing for us to. Oh, yeah. Watch my group as a watch along for this podcast. There are several WWE stars in that.
01:05:05
Speaker
that all explode that all I mean if you haven't seen mcgruber that may be actually a perfect excuse to introduce this movie to a bunch of people who have not seen it is to do a watch along like 90 minutes of us sitting here talking over mcgruber is pretty rough though we do an hour already just for a show yeah but I don't have to do comment I don't know
01:05:29
Speaker
All right. I mean, I'm not pushing for like, like, it's not like we have to do. You want to hear me talk over my grouper? Let's fucking do my grouper. No, no, no, no, no, no. Um, I just think that there's a lot of things that our listeners would like to get from us.
01:05:48
Speaker
As far as watch along content, we do have to watch some Some more deathmatch shit. I know coming into this weekend that you were gonna Jam that up my asshole. Yeah, I believe our let me read you whip out your fucking notes on your phone to be like Seven matches here. Well, no, I've got we got another request also. Yeah, I think uh, I
01:06:12
Speaker
strange dabs aka chris he's kind of found a loophole because he doesn't contact us through social media he does it through reviews on on itunes and i think that's kind of awesome actually that he just updates it so that it pops it back to the top so that we see it and that is kind of a loophole he keeps doing it so that we keep talking about what he wants uh... but i don't have a problem with it other than this next one is
01:06:41
Speaker
a death match he says hey guys i have a watch along request if you can find it uh that made me wonder how many panes of glass could a person go through before the viewer watching feels the pain themselves epiphany cage of death 19 ricky shane page versus shane strickland versus joe gazey
01:06:59
Speaker
for the CZW World Championship made me have literal all over body pain after watching. I believe this would make anyone feel the same. Keep doing what you guys do. Always a fun time sitting on the couch with you guys every week. A.K.A. or Chris A.K.A. Strange Dabs. P.S. Secondary request. During the match, how many panes of glass were used? Can you keep count?
01:07:22
Speaker
If only we could just insert that little like that ding noise like every time a pane of glass gets broken and then do like a counter. I think we can definitely find that match but it sounds like if it is that gross
01:07:41
Speaker
I guess we'll just be squirming on the podcast. You and I are gonna have plenty of time together in the next 48 hours to record a lot of content. There's gonna be shit you and I stumble across in the next 48 hours that we're gonna decide to do. We might even do a fucking Watch Along for an XFL game, because it's gonna be on Saturday before the fucking revolution. I would like to catch a little bit of that Battle Hawks game, because I still haven't seen a second of XFL. That's gonna be done. It will be done.
01:08:09
Speaker
Alright, I need to edit this thing and get this out because we're already late getting it to you guys. We're late getting it to you. We went over an hour and we still have more stuff to record. Right now. Right now. I think this was a fun sit-in. Yeah, we're actually on couches. We're staring at each other. It's insightful.
01:08:27
Speaker
This one actually felt a little better than the last one to me, and I didn't have to look- I even brought my Kevin Owens Funko Pop. Do you know why this one felt better? Why? I'll tell you why this one felt better. Funk Shway. I tried warning you that we were gonna get back from that freelance show late, and then you had, essentially in your head, whether you believed it or not, you had a deadline to get back to your wife at whatever hotel you guys were at, and you kept watching the clock.
01:08:52
Speaker
And every time we weren't making progress on that episode, you were like, oh, let's go. It's getting late. And now you don't feel that. So you're relaxed. You've got several days here and I'm going to get the best out of you over the next few days. And
Hypothetical Wrestling Matches
01:09:07
Speaker
I'm going to have a controversial take this weekend. That's actually my goal. You want me to have a controversy like like you're older than me by what? Couple months. Yeah.
01:09:20
Speaker
There's been very few times in our relationship where I felt like your big brother, but when the fucking Jim Nasty boys went at you the other day, last two weeks ago, I felt like I had to be a little like, oh, fuck you. You were fine. They were wrong. They should apologize to you.
01:09:40
Speaker
Well, that seems like a controversial take because it seems like they were coming at us a little bit and and Team ski take that Jim nasty boys you were I'm I am not starting fights with anybody. I am uh The difference between me and you is there's actually a few pro wrestlers. I think I could beat in a shoot fight You don't think that's true. Who didn't? Know why
01:10:09
Speaker
What are you? You look so confident right now. I'm highly confident that there are at least a few pro wrestlers I could beat the shit out of. One thing that you don't lack is confidence. What? I can't tell if you mean that as like, fuck you. No, like you have a look on your face like you're like, I know at least five wrestlers off the top of my head that I can beat the shit out of.
Podcast Tone and Social Media Engagement
01:10:34
Speaker
I think Lodi was one.
01:10:39
Speaker
I'm not saying that wrestlers are like secretly pussies.
01:10:43
Speaker
I'm saying that a lot of them are also just people who are really good at fake fighting. Okay. Who else? Um, you're like wrath. I'm going to assume that anybody that is way stronger than me just has an advantage from the get go. But there's people who are at least in my strength range, body weight range that I might just be slightly more aggressive than like that. I might get the edge on.
01:11:12
Speaker
What about, like, Spike Dudley? No, he's tough. Yeah. But I didn't list him as a guy I thought I could beat! What na- Mmm. What about Gigi Allen? So-
01:11:27
Speaker
No, I'm not gonna go down this road. I fucking hate Gigi Allen. And that may get me some heat. There's a lot of people that listen to this podcast primarily because they love the fuck out of you.
01:11:45
Speaker
And I just want to let you know that I think I want to get you to say a controversial thing because I want to test their loyalty. I want to hear something borderline offensive. No gymnasty boys. He didn't say anything about you that was borderline offensive. He said the truth, which was that you were, what, homoerotic? That's not what you said, but that's what you meant. This is you trying to get me to go down a path that I'm not. Maybe.
01:12:15
Speaker
I just want to make, I just want to talk about cum for everybody and just have everybody be cool. Your dad must be so proud of that line right now. I just want to talk about cum and make everybody happy. I just want to talk about cum and make everyone smile. Seaman's funny, right? You just look like a stoner like Jerry Seinfeld of Jizz there.
01:12:44
Speaker
Do we make... How many female listeners do we have? Three. I don't know. You being... Is that a shoot? Nah, I have no idea. Nah, I can't imagine that they would tolerate these Jizz jokes as well as... I think you'd be surprised. Probably. Probably. Jizz is universally funny. But I know Steppstool Stare ain't... Steppstool Sarah ain't listening to this shit.
01:13:12
Speaker
because of the gymnasty boy stuff. Probably like don't listen to assholes. I'm not an asshole. No, I agree. That's what I said. I like the gymnasty boys. You don't like them that much. I did though. You did until they bullied you, until they stuff you in a fucking locker on Twitter. Yeah, but in all fairness, like maybe we seemed like dickheads on the internet yelling at people. Yeah. Cause nobody else on the internet seems like that.
01:13:37
Speaker
Yeah, but get us out of here, Garrett. We've done enough. The heater just kicked on. You're going to hear it. I'm going to have to hit a button that turns that sound off. All right. Hey, everybody. Give us a follow on the social media at Wrestle Hangout on Twitter and Facebook at Predetermined Podcast on Instagram. I'm at Gartet on social media. Derek is at Halloween helping. If you want to send us an email for whatever reason, predeterminedpodcastatgmail.com.
01:14:02
Speaker
Leave us a review, rate, review, subscribe, help us out. It really truly helps us. It gets more listeners and we love there being more listeners. Join the hangout. The couch is growing and I love this growing couch.
01:14:17
Speaker
Yes, you can technically go on iTunes and update your fucking review to request new matches. That is a loophole, but I might have to take a stand against it. Email us. I actually want more emails. I don't know if I necessarily need more erotic fanfiction. Do you check that email? No, but I know that I see you resetting the password every other fucking week. That's because I forget it every time and I have to reset it. Well, make it something we can remember.
01:14:43
Speaker
Fair. Like, Semen makes me smile. Don't say that because now they'll know the password. Oh shit, hit our damn music.