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Ozzy Osbourne Tribute: MTV Dad, Metal Icon & Pure Chaos
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In this cathartic and chaotic episode of Streamin’ Demons, Jo and Amelie reflect on the legacy of Ozzy Osbourne—from bat-biting stage antics to burrito-fueled family life on The Osbournes. Jo recounts growing up with Ozzy's music as a Gen X metalhead, while Amelie reveals how she first knew him: not as a rock star, but as a lovable, swearing TV dad with 13 dogs and a messy mansion.
They unpack everything from controversial lawsuits (“Suicide Solution”) to deep-cut lyrics that hit harder with age. Amelie brings a global lens, explaining how Ozzy’s reality TV image shaped a whole generation outside the U.S.—and why he felt more like a funny grandpa than the Prince of Darkness.
Whether you know Ozzy from Sabbath, solo albums, OzFest, or MTV chaos, this episode’s for you. A celebration of music, vulnerability, messy parenting, and rock royalty done right.
💥 Key Moments
- Opening chaos – “If you were in a cave and forgot Ozzy died…” Jo sets the tone with nostalgia and chaos.
- Main arc – Amelie’s millennial MTV memories clash with Jo’s Gen X rock roots—two Ozzy timelines collide!
- Character study – Ozzy: not just the bat-biting rocker, but a real-deal dad. Burritos, dogs, lost credit cards, and actual parenting.
- Jo’s big take – Ozzy’s music isn’t just metal—it’s human. From “Goodbye to Romance” to “No More Tears,” Jo reveals why Ozzy matters.
- Amelie’s reflection – Growing up in France, Ozzy was a TV dad, not a rock god. Her POV shows the global shift in how icons are understood.
- WTF moment – A stripper, no hangovers, and Ozzy on loop?! Jo shares a chaotic Vegas story that ties back to the soundtrack of his youth.
👹 Streamin’ Demons is proudly chaotic, emotionally messy, and slightly louder than necessary.🛒 We’re Amazon Affiliates—if we link to Ozzy merch and you click/use it, we earn a small commission. 🎧 Listen + more at https://linktr.ee/Emptyhell
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Ozzy Osbourne's Legacy
00:00:06
Jo
Hey everyone, Joe and Emily here. Like and subscribe now because we got some talking to do. Special streaming demons about Ozzy Osbourne. That's right, if you were in a cave somewhere and you forgot that Ozzy died, well here we are to remind you.
00:00:24
Jo
All this and more right now. So we usually talk about movies and TV shows. And I talked to you about Ozzy when he died because I grew up with his music.
00:00:34
Jo
And you were like, music? He did music? i was like, son of a gun. Son of a gun.
00:00:43
Amelie
Kind of, kind of, because for you as an American and a Gen X, you know Ozzy Osbourne as a rock star.
00:00:45
Jo
Yeah.
00:00:53
Amelie
And for me, it's different because I'm French and I'm a millennial.
00:00:53
Jo
Yeah.
00:00:58
Amelie
I had MTV. And what happened in MTV?
The Osbournes TV Show and Family Life
00:01:02
Amelie
The Osbourne Family, which is TV reality show.
00:01:07
Jo
right
00:01:07
Amelie
And it was so great. So, yeah.
00:01:12
Jo
Yeah, you grew up the Osbournes and my generation also watched the Osbournes. We did, but we made it a drinking game. Every time Ozzy swore and you heard we took a shot.
00:01:26
Jo
And Ozzy swore like a professional on that show. So most of us couldn't make it past their first credit roll. and It was a fun game though.
00:01:34
Amelie
Yeah, it doesn't stop because the fun thing is he had a lot of dogs, like 13 dogs, 13, 14 dogs, and every time he's like, fuck off, beep, fuck off, beep, I like my burrito, beep, and he was like, fuck off.
00:01:40
Jo
yeah And they're always...
00:01:49
Jo
Yeah.
00:01:49
Amelie
He just does that. It's really funny.
00:01:52
Jo
No, in the sense, I forgot all about the dogs, like crapping on the carpet and doing things inside then running, ah ah whatever it's going to be. It was weird seeing Ozzy because you go from watching him in Black Sabbath, you go from watching him solo, Franny Rose and Zach Wild and stuff like that,
00:02:11
Jo
And then you see the actual man behind the persona, like the dotting father, where he's like, he's a he's a family man a thousand percent.
00:02:19
Amelie
Yes.
00:02:21
Jo
He's just trying to be there. He just happens to have a day job that's rock and roll.
00:02:25
Amelie
it It's really funny because we know he's a rock star. He's super rich.
00:02:29
Jo
Yeah.
00:02:30
Amelie
And on MTV, they were like, yeah, his best friend is Marilyn Manson. And during a celebration, they wear a midget in the oven and da-da-da-da-da-da.
00:02:42
Amelie
So we thought it was going to be sex, drugs, and rock and roll. Because you know MTV was starting to be trash in the 2000s.
00:02:48
Jo
Yeah. little bit.
00:02:50
Amelie
And no, no, you see this loving father who really likes his kid, who has a wife we love terribly.
00:02:54
Jo
Yeah.
00:02:59
Amelie
His two teenage kids who are like 15, 16 years old, a boy and a girl. The boy really liked McDonald's. The girl, she's always like yelling, crying, not happy, etc. Purple hair, blue hair, and everything.
00:03:11
Amelie
They look like Mr.
00:03:12
Jo
Kelly.
00:03:12
Amelie
Mrs. Everybody, you know, the neighbor ja next door.
00:03:14
Jo
yeah
00:03:16
Amelie
And that's really interesting that you say because it's not glamorous because you think, oh, that guy must be a billionaire and have a lot of lavish like lifestyle. No, he likes to drink his coffee in the morning, just like my dad.
00:03:28
Amelie
When his kid doesn't wake up, he's like, hey, Chup, chup, time for school. You go to school. No, no, no. If in five minutes you're not out, I'm going to kick your ass.
00:03:36
Jo
yeah
00:03:36
Amelie
You see what I mean? Or when there is a problem between the brothers sisters, the always comes like, hey, calm down. What happened? What's going on? Did you ask nicely?
00:03:47
Amelie
No, but whenever. Did you ask her in priority? And da, da, da, da. Like, it's really interesting because it's Mr. and Mrs. Everybody. And they're super rich.
00:03:55
Jo
it really Yeah, and that's that's the thing. There's actually the the third child who didn't want to
Controversies and Fame Across Countries
00:04:01
Jo
be on the show at all.
00:04:02
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:04:03
Jo
So it was kind of cool. Like, they noped out. And I remember one of the first videos, not the first music videos, but one of the first videos, like documentaries on Ozzy Osbourne, was through Suicide Solution Case, where he had a song, Suicide Solution, about alcoholism.
00:04:24
Jo
And the misheard lyric was, I tell you to end your life. No, was like, enjoy life, not end your life. But that was the misheard lyric in the court case.
00:04:36
Jo
And these kids killed themselves. And they happened to have an Ozzy record. They happened to have an Ozzy Osbourne record. So Ozzy Osbourne gets sued for someone's suicide.
00:04:47
Jo
This is back when that happened a little bit more So it's like when people shot up a school and they blame Marilyn Manson and It's like, you can't blame someone for other people's actions, especially if it's music.
00:04:59
Amelie
Yes.
00:04:59
Jo
And especially if no one's really saying, please pick up a gun shoot for school.
00:05:02
Jo
And no one said that. No one said, please kill yourself. In fact, it's actually something else. I'm paranoid, you know, the whole different thing, whole different misheard lyric.
00:05:15
Jo
And so that was my first theatrical or streaming or TV show really for Ozzy Osbourne was the court case where kids were killing themselves.
00:05:25
Amelie
I never heard about it.
00:05:26
Jo
Really? He might be too young for that.
00:05:27
Amelie
I never heard about it. Never. No.
00:05:30
Jo
Yeah. I remember...
00:05:33
Amelie
For France, I spoke to my mom who is a huge metal, dark rock fan.
00:05:36
Jo
Yeah.
00:05:39
Jo
No. No. Sorry.
00:05:40
Amelie
Oh, shut Silence.
00:05:41
Jo
You can say kiss.
00:05:43
Amelie
Silence.
00:05:43
Jo
your Your mom thinks kiss is hardcore.
00:05:45
Amelie
Van Allen, ACDC, Kiss, Metallica. You know, she know Black Sabbath.
00:05:50
Jo
Doggone.
00:05:51
Amelie
We all know Black Sabbath.
00:05:53
Jo
Right.
00:05:54
Amelie
But That's all. We don't know him as an individual.
00:05:56
Jo
Really?
00:05:58
Amelie
We see him on TV because of the Osborne family. he became really famous, so he was like still bankable, right? But no.
00:06:09
Jo
I think that might be a anomaly because i'm pretty sure Ozzy by himself is pretty global.
00:06:09
Amelie
No, no, no.
00:06:17
Jo
Like OzFest went everywhere. Ozzy toured solo longer than he ever toured with Black Sabbath.
00:06:24
Amelie
No, but he's not as famous ah as he is in America. Everybody knows him in America. Everybody knows him in the UK. Everybody knows his wife in the UK. She goes to a lot of talk shows, etc.
00:06:35
Amelie
In France, you need to be i can i say very niche. you know You need to know metal songs. Black Sabbath is very famous with goth people.
00:06:49
Amelie
People who are gothic in France.
00:06:51
Jo
Yeah. The Visigoths and the Goths. Well, that's for Black Sabbath, but your mom didn't follow the career after Black Sabbath? She's like, oh, nothing happened after like 80-something or whenever we broke up?
00:07:03
Amelie
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. Like to give you a comparison, the Rolling Stones, for example, everybody you know Mick Jagger or Keith Richards.
00:07:06
Jo
Wizard of Oz, Randy Rhoads.
00:07:12
Amelie
We know these people.
00:07:13
Jo
yeah
00:07:13
Amelie
Or for example, ACDC, we know ACDC. But if we take the singer apart or the guitarist apart, you know, there's, yeah.
00:07:22
Jo
Interesting. It might be a different culture for pulp, not pulp, pop sensations or whatever it's going to be for celebrity culture there. So when we're doing this, you didn't even know that he had a history of stuff. I mean, the entire being, I believe, kicked out and banned from the Alamo because he urinated on it.
00:07:42
Jo
something you can't do here and the absolute nightmare of his early drug and alcoholic life where he once was allegedly once was mistaken for his own roadie because he was just so bloated with drinking they actually thought he was like one of the roadies instead of actually Ozzy Osbourne and that was his first wake-up call like maybe he needs to get you know you know We all struggle with things, right?
Rock Star Antics to Family Man
00:08:11
Jo
So you only saw him as like the dotting father and not the Prince of Darkness that was biting heads off of a dove during a record signing and bit ahead off a bat in the concert because he thought it was a fake one. The dove part he knew was real, apparently. just was really high. That was a good idea at the time.
00:08:30
Jo
So you didn't see any of that stuff.
00:08:32
Amelie
not No, no, no, no.
00:08:33
Jo
My God, it's amazing.
00:08:35
Amelie
I didn't know about that, which is really interesting. But during the show, you hear about the consequences. Like, for example, there is a scene where his daughter and son, confronts him and says, do you know how hard it is to go to school and be the son and daughter of the crazy guy who ate a bat?
00:08:53
Amelie
Like we've been bullying both ah about that.
00:08:53
Jo
Yeah.
00:08:53
Jo
Yeah.
00:08:55
Amelie
Also, they try to make friends and stuff, and he is this mega guy who is gothic, etc. And... and oh yeah, you hear about it, like that guy, he's very important, he's rich, he's a rock star, da-da-da-da-da, know, that was a rock star, but it was sold out to us because, oh, Marilyn Manson found him really cool, or he's a grandpa from rock, you know, or he's a beginning of metal, something like that, you know, like they're a crazy family, and when you go to watch it, it's really lovely, it's really lovely, I like...
00:09:33
Amelie
inside of their home and you can see the backstage.
00:09:34
Jo
Right. Was that dubbed? um Was that dubbed in French? Like, did they use their real voices or was it dubbed in French?
00:09:45
Amelie
i don There were two kinds of episodes. There were one episode who could be um um on very, very late at night. So it would be just subtitle.
00:09:57
Amelie
And I had the very badly translated
00:09:57
Jo
right
00:10:02
Amelie
So you will hear them speak in English, but there is a voiceover.
00:10:05
Jo
Oh, God.
00:10:07
Amelie
Yeah.
00:10:07
Jo
That's even better.
00:10:08
Amelie
Oh, mon Dieu! Try to speak English. Simple sentences.
00:10:12
Jo
Okay, I'll do... I'll speak English like Ozzy would. You ready? See if I can still do this.
00:10:21
Jo
There, i'll translate that one.
00:10:23
Amelie
D'accord. Donc... For that, you would have the beep, beep, beep, and the song.
00:10:30
Jo
Yeah.
00:10:30
Amelie
But sometimes you would have, for example, this is for fucking idiot or fuck off. We would have degage, which is not a bad word, but still. And for degage.
00:10:39
Jo
Bagage. Isn't that one a piece of bread? A bagage?
00:10:42
Amelie
Degage. Degage. Degage means go away. But very badly.
00:10:46
Jo
Degage.
00:10:47
Amelie
Fuck off, basically.
00:10:47
Jo
I'm to start using this in Quebec now.
00:10:48
Amelie
Degage.
00:10:50
Jo
Amelie is teaching me all the good words to use in French now. So, degage, yes. Go on.
00:10:55
Amelie
Mm-hmm. For example, instead of others, it would be like ah ah that idiot of dog. Cet idiot chien ou ce genre de choses.
00:11:03
Jo
and so you it's sean Yeah.
00:11:04
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:11:05
Jo
Yeah. One of the first words. Okay. When I started to live in Quebec, I was asking someone, please teach me the words I need to know.
00:11:14
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:11:15
Jo
One of the first things I translated, a was the Blues Brothers scene about how much for the women. I want to buy your women, your wife, your woman. That one. And the second one was from just Ozzy Osbourne songs.
00:11:23
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:11:27
Jo
I was getting translated into French so I could have something of a basic in my mind because i knew Ozzy really well. Like, okay, this is what the words mean. And then I was like, well... How about swear words?
00:11:39
Jo
and like, what does bitch mean? Like Shen. I'm like, no, that's not it. That can't be Shen.
00:11:45
Amelie
Salope would be salope.
00:11:47
Jo
Was that? So look, yeah, right? Yeah, but they're like, they didn't want to say, I'm like, well, I know you're lying because now you're saying female dog. And that's not the same connotation.
00:11:59
Jo
You know, I need the actual of it all. So Ozzy was my gateway drug into learning more French because I wanted to remember words I was learning.
00:12:09
Jo
So you you you have that. And yeah, the poorly translated stuff. I was really wondering like how well he translates throughout. I guess not apparently too well for the Osborns. Did you ever watch the ones in the History Channel where him and Jack go around to different museums and different historical places?
00:12:27
Jo
Brilliant.
00:12:27
Amelie
No.
00:12:29
Jo
Oh, yeah, I think you'll like
Cultural Impact and Ozzy's Interests
00:12:29
Jo
it. If you like history at all, I think that's a brilliant one where Jack and Ozzy tour the world and they just kind of go on like an ah RV trip across the United States and they started doing other locations later on.
00:12:42
Jo
But he was a big history buff and it's really fun to see him just doodling away in a sketchbook as Jack's trying to drive and just being ah ah normal dad.
00:12:56
Jo
Like, honestly, you're saying i'm like to like the Osbournes kind of made you think like, oh he's just a normal person. The history, the world, world history channel. Wow. The history channel one makes you go like, oh, my God, this is what it's like to drive around my dad.
00:13:15
Jo
Like, just to go to different historical museums and look at it and spend our time there. It's. So weird. And then every once a Jack would sit set up a like a surprise for Ozzy, like ah ah a choir singing one of his songs or one of his recordings being put into an archive for like Forever Never type archive.
00:13:37
Jo
and And just the emotional connection that Ozzy would have or the reflection he would have with Randy Rhoads or someone like that. all kind of hit home where it's the humanity. And I think that's what gets through.
00:13:50
Jo
When we're listening to the songs, we're listening to his humanity come through. Where you're sometimes you're listening to some groups, and God, I love ACDC.
00:14:01
Jo
It's a thousand percent jam with both singers, right? i Three if you count Axl Rose. I love him Brian Johnson, and I absolutely...
00:14:14
Jo
adored but the older older stuff and I'm drawing a blank now but most of her songs are about women cars she was a fast machine you know stuff like that it's hard it's hard and rock and roll
00:14:29
Amelie
ACDC, for example, I know little bit more about the main singer because he's really good with car. He's actually an excellent driver. He's a smart man.
00:14:38
Jo
no Brian Johnson is yeah
00:14:39
Amelie
Oh, yes yes, yes, yes, yes. Well respected in Australia. yeah I watch a lot of shows about him. It's completely normal, but you're right. How is he right with his heart? Talking about the show, there is many, many moments when you recall his childhood and where he came from, etc.
00:14:49
Jo
Yeah. Right.
00:14:55
Amelie
And there is some personal story shares. And you're like, oh, the guy is not just a drug addict. There is also behind a man with a heart.
00:15:01
Jo
right Yeah, I mean, the Bon Scott years for ACDC were more poetic than the Brian Johnson years, I believe, except for maybe the Black album, or Back in Black. But you see that with Ozzy throughout.
00:15:16
Jo
You see Goodbye to Romance. you're listening I was listening to Goodbye to Romance the other day, and it was one of his first songs he did solo. And it was, if you listen to it,
00:15:32
Jo
It sounds like it's about a breakup of a girl, but it's a breakup of Black Sabbath. It's about the Black Sabbath breakup, and it's just so many levels, it works so many levels lyrically.
00:15:39
Amelie
Interesting.
00:15:44
Jo
And he's had excellent, he's he's written songs with Lemmy, know, Hellraiser, and about being on the road. And we all can kind of, not that we're all rock stars who know what it's like to tour on the road, but we all know where we've been in the job, especially with Blue Collar,
00:16:01
Jo
that you've been in a job for so long, your body just can't take it no more. And like the doctors say, we should all, you know, payment maybe I'm speaking to myself for myself and my my job's not been blue collar for like decades or so.
00:16:15
Jo
and You know, the doctor's like, you should probably take it easy. You know, and you know, you try, but you know, you say you're in a quid and you know, you're a liar in the end and you always come back. So you have all these things that go lyrically where it's just very a human condition.
00:16:31
Jo
I love highway to hell. I've never drove on that highway, of that road in Australia. you know It's about driving.
00:16:39
Amelie
I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it.
00:16:41
Jo
The highway to have, you're going to that one?
00:16:42
Amelie
Yeah, the long I wear around Australia, I want to do it. I spoke to my husband, who is Australian, and I say, I want to go to the Outback, and he's like, I'm over my dead body.
00:16:47
Jo
Yeah.
00:16:53
Amelie
You're not going to the Outback. Like, yeah, sure, maybe you're part of the Outback, because it's it's too dangerous.
00:16:55
Jo
Like the steakhouse? but The Outback Steakhouse? I can take to one of those down the street.
00:17:01
Amelie
It's too... Oh, you bad. You bad. no, it's too dangerous. It's really too dangerous, but On the side of the coast, there is the ocean.
00:17:12
Amelie
It's doable.
00:17:12
Jo
Yeah.
00:17:13
Amelie
It's rock and roll, but it's doable.
00:17:15
Jo
Yeah. Well, that'd be kind of cool. Yeah, so like if if you don't if you're not experiencing these things, and the Highwood Hell is actually a windy road that was really fast, no breaks, but you're you're like, okay, I get it. She shook me all night long. Who made who? These are all great songs, but...
00:17:30
Jo
Road to nowhere. We've been on the road to nowhere. It changes. it Stuff like that. If you've ever taken a drink that maybe you ended up a little bit blacked out, suicide solution.
00:17:45
Jo
like there there's like These are tons that can go on and on and on and on and on. I will show a video and people are like what was you what were you like growing up? I will show to this day. It's weird. i was watching this a couple days ago.
00:18:01
Jo
The ordinary, excuse excuse me, not the ordinary
Parenting Style and Family Dynamics
00:18:04
Jo
man one. The Under the Graveyard video of Jack Kilmer playing a young Ozzie. that If you ever want to know what I was like in Vegas, that video, press play, walk away.
00:18:18
Jo
and And that's exactly how it was like in Vegas. And people are like, don't know, that's weird, but you can connect with that. You can connect with that and you connect with someone going back.
00:18:31
Jo
So yeah, I think that's one the part of his music is enduring because it is endearing. It connects to something with us. And maybe that's what you saw.
00:18:42
Jo
who don't You don't have the background of his in music. You don't have the connection with music. But you saw that with his TV shows. You saw the endearing part, the human part come out.
00:18:50
Amelie
Yes. e It was a lovely surprise because thought, you know, it was at the same time like the Kardashian and I'm like, oh, again, a rich family who used to be famous and now...
00:18:55
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:04
Jo
Kardashians.
00:19:04
Amelie
The mother wants to be famous, you know, so she wants a piece of the pie.
00:19:06
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:08
Amelie
Not at all. They were fantastic.
00:19:09
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:10
Amelie
That's a nice surprise.
00:19:11
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:12
Amelie
The teenager boy is it a little bit chubby. The daughter, I went to high school with that kind of woman who is very stressed with a lot of medication and she's not fine and she's cream all the time and This kind of thing, I wish my parents were more like him because the he never beat the shit out of his kids. He just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What's going on? Why are you yelling out?
00:19:34
Amelie
Stop yelling. I cannot think.
00:19:36
Jo
Yeah.
00:19:36
Amelie
Take a deep breath. Speak. What's going on? Oh, well, she did this and she did that. Okay. First of all, did you call her? Yes. So what do you want me to do? What do you want me to do?
00:19:47
Jo
yeah
00:19:48
Amelie
Can you go and see her? Okay, I'm going to go and see her. So calm down. Go to the kitchen. have a burrito, I'm going up. And he goes up, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. And sometimes she yell at him, she's really upset and stuff, but he never hurt his kid. He never, you know, pushed them.
00:20:05
Amelie
Or when there is this famous scene when they confront their parents on the TV room about the bat, they're like, we understand, we're training our best and everything.
00:20:08
Jo
Yeah.
00:20:13
Amelie
They listen. They sit and they listen. They never like, hey, I'm the biggest adult.
00:20:16
Jo
yeah
00:20:19
Amelie
Silence, you're just a kid. No, it's like, what's going on? What's your problem? Okay, okay. And it's really funny to see how messy the house is because they're just a normal family who just have a lot of money.
00:20:33
Amelie
have the impression.
00:20:33
Jo
yeah
00:20:34
Amelie
There's a guy like Boito, the guy like his dogs. The guy has a conversation with his wife. He loves his wife and stuff. And it's not over-sexualized.
00:20:45
Jo
No.
00:20:46
Amelie
You can see they love each other. They're real old.
00:20:48
Jo
Yeah.
00:20:48
Amelie
They have kids together.
00:20:49
Jo
but That's exactly it.
00:20:50
Amelie
They travel. And you can see the backstage also.
00:20:51
Jo
It's cute.
00:20:53
Amelie
The backstage of some concert, what's going on. So you see he's got an assistant and stuff. He works with other people, tries to find a solution and stuff. I like my favorite scene is the credit card.
00:21:04
Amelie
you Have you ever heard about the credit card?
00:21:05
Jo
Oh, no, this one.
00:21:06
Amelie
So apparently, it's so human, you know. It's like, Ozzy's like, where is the credit card, Sharon? And he's like, oh, I don't have the credit card.
00:21:16
Amelie
i gave the credit card to her daughter.
00:21:16
Jo
Panic.
00:21:19
Amelie
And you you can see the daughter running. It's like, it's a credit card. Fuck, it's a credit card. And she's like running in the back of grabbing all the things, trying to empty her purse, looking for the credit card.
00:21:31
Amelie
I'm in charge of the credit card. I do not know where the credit card is. And that was... not planned. You can see on her face, she's looking around, there's light following her, you know, she's running around, she's wearing clothes like a teenager, you know.
00:21:38
Jo
and
00:21:45
Amelie
And I found myself in a situation where I was like, where is the key? What key? Amelia gave you the key. Oh, shoot, the key. And you run around and you try to find the key.
00:21:54
Amelie
So it's really funny to see Then having this situation in a big mansion, you know, in America and this big rock star who has this ordinary problem, you know, I really like it.
00:21:54
Jo
yeah
00:22:07
Jo
No, that's that's I'm glad you mentioned that because when you look at those episodes, you're thinking his kids must be messed up.
00:22:07
Amelie
I really like it.
00:22:15
Jo
His kids must be, and they're not. They're some of the most well-adjusted. If you look at it the the later ones, especially when they go into the History Channel, nice. They just seem like a happy family that can talk things out when they need to.
00:22:34
Jo
Yeah, they can yell at each other, but there's still that love there. Like and were saying, there's still that romantic connection between him and Sharon. you know there's There's that lifelong, that you just know type thing. And some some families on TV, will't well you won't say their names, Kardashians.
00:22:51
Jo
They seem fake as, you know.
00:22:53
Amelie
Bless you. Bless you.
00:22:54
Jo
Thank you. I know. But they just seem like fake and plastic as they're as their personas are. And... It's like the opposite with the Osbournes.
00:23:06
Jo
And that's the funnest thing. If you see Bruce Jenner, back in the day was Bruce Jenner, now it's Caitlyn. He was an all-American guy. He was the Wheaties box. He was the super stud.
00:23:17
Jo
And then his family life was a nightmare. Like a toxic waste nightmare. And maybe if Kim ever passes her bar test, you can sue me. but Sorry.
00:23:30
Jo
And then you see the guy who is supposed to be the prince of darkness and his family life is beautiful. Not perfect. But like you were saying, like, boy, I wish that was my dad. Not because they're rich, because he's not beating the crap out of me right now.
00:23:43
Amelie
Yeah, exactly.
00:23:43
Jo
You know?
00:23:44
Amelie
Yeah.
00:23:45
Jo
Holy crap. People listen? Really? This family?
00:23:47
Amelie
When you listen to the daughter and son in podcast, they tell you the backstory, what happened,
00:23:52
Jo
Yeah.
00:23:54
Amelie
And they're like, for example, they met so many rock stars, they don't care. And there is one encounter, as you said, they visit, who did they visit? The house of po po pozi the wife, the widow of Kurt Cobain.
00:24:15
Amelie
And apparently she kept his shirt, the one he committed suicide with, and some hair.
00:24:15
Jo
and Okay, Courtney Love.
00:24:19
Jo
Yeah.
00:24:23
Amelie
And so during the podcast, like, did you see the shirt? Did you see the shirt? Could you imagine being born and raised in a family where you can have access to all this rock star, like Marilyn Manson and stuff and stuff and stuff, you know, you're like, oh my God, you can, like,
00:24:33
Jo
Yeah.
00:24:39
Amelie
And when you listen to them, they're like, oh, they're just neighbors, you know. like
00:24:43
Jo
Yeah, they're they're just normal kids.
00:24:46
Amelie
Like the home for the show, they both this is their house.
00:24:49
Jo
Yeah.
00:24:51
Amelie
It was from the president of Congo. His name was Bongo, apparently.
00:24:55
Jo
Wow.
00:24:57
Amelie
Bongo from the Congo.
00:25:01
Jo
No idea? I'll take the word for it.
00:25:02
Amelie
So, apparently, yeah. So, I wish this podcast, you know, was there from time to time interviewed and how did you think about this and that and what happened, etc. Was it true? Was it planned, etc.?
00:25:13
Amelie
No, no, it was not planned. They're really like that. They're really, really normal. already It's really interesting. Really interesting.
00:25:20
Jo
Yeah, I mean, that's the fun part. like What most people would cut out of their true serious type thing, that's the only thing we kind of see because there's nothing else.
Concert Presence and Audience Connection
00:25:32
Jo
You see, and he did make, when he was making No More Tears, he did the No More Tours album, and and he kind of does some back behind the scenes things when he retires the first time, back and back then, like in the 90s.
00:25:46
Jo
And you see just the the showmanship of it. And I've been, and I probably complained about this a couple weeks ago. forget what concert I was at.
00:25:58
Jo
And they're like, get up, jump up, do that. I'm like, man, it's not gym class, dude. Shut the up. up Like, if I want to go to gym class, I would have gone to Orange Theory Fitness.
00:26:10
Jo
and like And this is a concert. Will you tell me to do jumping jacks now? What the hell, dude? i'm not for I'm not a conformist that way. and like Everyone's like, stand up. we're good. like i'll If I want to do something, I'll do it. but ozzie But honestly, 1,000%, every time,
00:26:27
Jo
He jumps, you jump. If he's like, put your hands in the air, you put your hands in the air. It's Simon Says with Ozzy Osbourne. And you forget that you're a grown man.
00:26:39
Jo
And being basically ordered as ah a a gym instructor, like Ozzy is a gym instructor, ordering people to jump up and down and wave their hands and pump their fists. and Because he's doing it with you.
00:26:51
Jo
Versus like the Kanye, everyone stand up. and And then Kanye actually shames a dude who was in a wheelchair because he couldn't stand up at the concert. I'm like, that's a douchebag thing to do.
00:27:01
Amelie
No.
00:27:02
Jo
Yeah, Kanye was being Kanye that day.
00:27:03
Amelie
No. Oh, la, la, la, la.
00:27:06
Jo
Yeah. So I'm like, no, dude. you you like No, we're good. We're good. Ozzy is the perfect showman for this. And he would... Ozzy Osbourne's reason why I know Carmina and Burana is through Ozzy Osbourne. He used to start that his concerts out with that song.
00:27:24
Jo
great the song of blood that's a great song like i need to learn this now i need to learn the classical ozzy's a gate with a classical music how words that if you're actually into his music he will start his concert that yeah
00:27:35
Amelie
He's a musician. He's a musician. That's the thing. He's a musician. He's an artist. And what's the difference between him and somebody starting with the letter K? He was famous.
00:27:47
Amelie
He's known. He's renowned. He's famous. He's respected as a songwriter, as a person, as an artist, as a, let's say, comedian in some way, right?
00:27:57
Jo
Yeah, it is pretty funny.
00:27:57
Amelie
And the difference with K, who is just, look at my life, I'm rich, you know, and then became famous.
00:27:59
Jo
It was.
00:28:05
Amelie
you know And that's interesting to see these two entities, two families, one who was very humble and climbed the ladder and still the same, and one who is super rich, born rich, and will be rich forever.
00:28:15
Jo
Yeah. Yeah, no, it's it's weird. is You're right. That one that starts with K also married someone who starts with a K as well. And like we're talking about toxicity of that family. It just, yeah, there you go. that that's cut up That fits, it fits, man.
00:28:34
Jo
You know, when you release a sex tape to get yourself famous, who knew? But when you're going back to allegedly, can't get me, it's my opinion. Deuces.
00:28:45
Jo
Oh, deuces go this way? I'm doing this way today. Yeah, so you're going back to Ozzy. And i remember when I was...
00:28:57
Jo
late teens, I saw Alice Cooper in concert. And I thought, holy crap, this is what I want to do. I want to be on stage.
00:29:09
Jo
I want to hold the theatrics of it. It's amazing. Alice Cooper is a character that is played, right?
00:29:19
Jo
When I saw Ozzy, was like, it was... really just the energy and the crowd is one big family. didn't know people from the left or or right, but everyone's your best friend at the Ozzy Osbourne concerts.
00:29:36
Jo
Like there are no enemies. no one's It doesn't matter what side of the street you came from, where your income bracket was, you're there for one reason. And then he starts doing things like OzFest and introducing tons of bands that we would not have been able to hear, and including some...
00:29:58
Jo
that I discovered through OzFest. I discovered drain, TH, TH, yeah, through OzFest. I discover typo negative through OzFest.
00:30:09
Jo
I sat through Marilyn Manson who sucked
00:30:15
Jo
hardcore.
00:30:18
Jo
as the penultimate act for OzFest right before Ozzy got on there. I sat through that crap. I suffered through that. This was when Manson was kind of like phoning it in at this point.
00:30:29
Jo
He's like, oh, I'm shocking. Oh, look, at I got the boob suit. Oh, I'm the Antichrist. or Something that.
00:30:37
Amelie
You both heard.
00:30:38
Jo
It was horrific. It was so boring. It was just boring.
00:30:42
Amelie
Rhi.
00:30:42
Jo
And when i when I heard Beautiful People on the radio, I was in a gym. I was like, oh my God, it's not arrhythmics. Is this the end of the world? like I was like, i am I having a stroke?
00:30:54
Jo
Like, no, it's just a different it's a different cover.
00:30:58
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:30:59
Jo
i was like, oh my God, Marilyn Manson, this is brilliant.
00:31:01
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:31:02
Jo
And then his next common album, like whatever, is his last album was the Chaos one. was pretty decent.
00:31:07
Amelie
isn
00:31:08
Jo
But he became more of a persona than an artist at some point.
00:31:13
Jo
And that's what it was.
00:31:14
Jo
He was phoning it in.
00:31:14
Amelie
That's good. That's good you pointed out because in my generation, Myron Munson was his creator, his character. you know He wanted to be called Mr.
00:31:22
Jo
Right.
00:31:23
Amelie
Munson and stuff. So for my generation, he's a rock star. He's persona, a character. And we were raised into the beginning of TV reality, reality TV, sorry, with Ozzy Osbourne, Kardashian, and other stars who try out but didn't work, didn't catch on, right?
00:31:38
Jo
right
00:31:46
Amelie
And the last album, I think the last two albums of Miron Munson are really interesting because when you listen to it, it's more rock and roll. There is ari some lyrics.
00:31:54
Jo
Yeah.
00:31:55
Amelie
it's He's still Miron Munson with makeup, but it's not so just Miron Munson's character, like David Bowie.
00:31:56
Jo
It's matured.
00:32:01
Amelie
You see what I mean?
00:32:02
Jo
Yeah.
00:32:03
Amelie
Like, yeah, you're right. a lot of people criticized his concert in France because, you know, there is a difference between you see a rock star in America who tour in America, right?
00:32:14
Amelie
And rock star who come to Europe because they come to Paris, Bordeaux, then Berlin, something else, e
00:32:18
Jo
Yeah.
00:32:19
Amelie
So people are like, yeah, he's coming and they expect a good show, you know? So yeah, I'm not surprised of your point of view. I get it. too
00:32:28
Jo
Yeah, it was just, I mean, it was just boring. I mean, I like, like I said, this is someone who loved his first album, really dug the last album.
00:32:39
Jo
ah ah One of his songs is still my favorite playlist. It was just that show. And maybe because were there for all day for OzFest, and it was the last act to go on before Ozzy, you're like, come on, man, let's just get to Ozzy.
00:32:53
Jo
Like, no one cared. like we just want And once Ozzy came on, the whole life came up again. Everything just blew up again. So you you have, and maybe, you know, also everyone has a bad day.
00:33:05
Jo
Maybe Madison just had a bad day. It happens. I got them. I got bad days. Heck, you know. But the OzFest thing, it was just giving back to a lot of artists who were starting out.
00:33:19
Jo
He was bringing people up. He would always take new bands out on tour or bands who are almost established and getting their way up. It was like very generous that way. it's It's like the... you know Jon Stewart does this for comedians a bit where he'll develop lot of talent. like That's what Ozzy was kind of doing, the mentorship of how to do this.
00:33:40
Jo
At the same time, A lot of those bands, like the whole Monty Crew thing, like they have stories about him snorting ants because he was insane. he was was clinically just, you can't top it. And then he's also the the father who kind of doddles in people.
00:33:55
Jo
So you have that. And one of the biggest things I learned from Ozzy
00:34:04
Jo
was to be genuine. You can be this insane act on stage, but he always ended, and I still remember this in my head. ah ah He was talking to Jack. Jack's jack's little like eight or nine years something like that. Jack was on stage for No More Tears.
00:34:22
Jo
And Ozzy was explaining how you end the show because there's no there's no crowd yet. They're just doing like sound checks or setting up the stage or whatever. And so you put your hand in your out hair. You take a bow. You put your hand in your hair.
00:34:35
Jo
You know, you bow, you bow, bow, hand heart and say, goodnight, I love you all. And he said that every show, I love you all. And it wasn't a throwaway.
00:34:47
Jo
You can feel that he was touched, that everyone showed it up for him. And that was ah ah was a two-way street with him. Like, I love you, you know, goodnight, I love you all.
00:34:59
Jo
And throughout his concerts, you ever go to his concerts? You can take a shot for every time he says, I love you. And you might get drunk. You might get drunk through mid-set.
00:35:10
Jo
but And it's genuine. it's It's not like a tick, like, and love. No, it's none of that. It's actually genuine heartfelt. It always felt that way. It was always emotionally felt. And that's why like, people would go to his last concert. I tried to get tickets. I couldn't.
00:35:29
Jo
I was line number 1.5 million in line
00:35:34
Amelie
Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho.
00:35:36
Jo
yeah like like I had to get it like a ah ah calculator out because Ticketmaster doesn't put commas. They just give you like a straight line.
00:35:41
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:35:42
Jo
i'm like, okay, hold on. One, two, three, four. Million. Oh, I ain't getting tickets.
00:35:47
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:35:48
Jo
like
00:35:50
Jo
By the time was in queue for a half hour, and all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom. Everyone's empty in queue. like, oh, they're sold out. Yeah, they sold out. Even the bad seats sold out. like, damn it.
00:36:03
Jo
Oh, well. But I watched a concert. I watched it before. It was an amazing event just to see him out there. So you have all of this. You have all of this. And that was Ozzy Osbourne. And dang it, you know Marilyn Manson, but you don't know Ozzy Osbourne? For shame, France.
00:36:23
Jo
For shame. Or as my French friend would say, something, something, shit French. France. I can't believe you knew Marilyn Manson music, but not Ozzy.
00:36:36
Amelie
It's a person. It's because it's just a single person. If you say Black Sabbath, we all know Black Sabbath. We can give him some song and stuff.
00:36:43
Jo
But, Manson's a person?
00:36:44
Amelie
There is Evan on the channel number first, one in on TV in France. We have a song from Ozzy every Saturday night who run out.
00:36:55
Amelie
Yeah, we know. We know. But the person, not really. It's perception.
00:37:01
Jo
That's weird.
00:37:02
Amelie
It's perception.
00:37:02
Jo
That's weird. going have to give you some music homework later on. But it happens.
00:37:09
Amelie
Look, it's a world after the Second World War. We we were really Americanized in Europe, you know, we've with Elvis Presley.
00:37:19
Amelie
And after Elvis Presley, it's all this rock band from England, Beatles, etc. And now, nowadays, it's K-pop.
00:37:29
Amelie
So, yeah. Yeah, why not?
00:37:31
Jo
Blackpink.
00:37:32
Amelie
Why not? K-pop. So maybe one day, we're going... there Someone is going...
00:37:35
Jo
Do you want the list of why not K-pop? Or are you just asking a rhetorical question?
00:37:40
Amelie
Maybe one day somebody is going to do a podcast about K-pop artist who is really old and die and the French girl will be, oh, I didn't know that person really well, but you know we know that person because of that movie. I didn't know he was a rock star.
00:37:58
Amelie
How many times that happened?
00:37:58
Jo
know Well, that that happens.
00:38:00
Jo
that happens no I get it.
00:38:00
Amelie
Yeah.
00:38:01
Jo
I get it. I get it. i get it
00:38:02
Amelie
No, no, I know who is Ozzy Osbourne. I know the Osbourne family and From my point of view as a millennial who grew up with MTV, I know like that. I'm just telling you. It's like, for example, you have a Gen Z. Does Gen Z know how Z was born?
00:38:20
Jo
Gen Z, I'm not going to bag on. That's too easy. Sorry, Gen Z. and I'm not going to bag on you guys today. It's all peace and love today, man. Buy my book, Surviving Gen X. See where people came from.
00:38:32
Jo
No, maybe they do. Maybe they don't. I think some do. When I play music, okay. When I play music, I'm doing Cape. I'm breaking Cape Cape right now. When I play music for my classes, because i play music the beginning of my classes and during breaks, because I need that energy to get me through the class.
00:38:51
Jo
but That's what I do as I write stuff on the board. And would be surprising how many people not like won't know any of my songs, not that.
00:39:03
Jo
How many people really like stuff like Ozzy and Sabbath and Red Hot Chili Peppers and ACDC and Guns and Pantera. was all these bands people are listening to.
00:39:17
Jo
The whole 90s generation of stuff like Alice in Chains and Smashing Pumpkins and Chris Cornell stuff. Or how many people connect with that stuff still? Jane's addiction, you know.
00:39:32
Jo
Stone Temple pilots. You see all that still in Gen Z. They might call the oldies. But that's still their jam.
00:39:44
Jo
Because it's still good music. And they're gonna have their own new music.
00:39:46
Amelie
True.
00:39:47
Jo
that Everyone adds on to it, which is fine. that you You should add on. Music should evolve. All things need to evolve. And I think Gen Z is doing a terrific balance balancing act.
00:40:00
Jo
You know, we did it. Gen X did it with Doors. We had the Doors. We had... uh, CCR, we had Zeppelin still, i think Zeppelin is still immortal. The who the stones were there. And cause stone just came on forever though, you know?
00:40:16
Jo
And honestly, Ozzy Osbourne, even for my generation, it went black Sabbath. And then the first time I heard Ozzy Osbourne solo was in the nineties with no more tears. My friend Mike gave me a tape to listen to.
00:40:32
Jo
And it was like Mr. Tinkle train. And, ah ah desire and no more tears mama coming home all these songs i was like wow this i mean i what's this you know so yeah we kind of get that later on in life you know so maybe it's skip millennial
00:40:51
Amelie
It's completely normal. Like, for example, Johnny Cash. You know Johnny Cash?
00:40:56
Jo
card of cash
00:40:57
Amelie
Johnny Cash, right? Johnny Cash, you need to be really, really, really into music in France to know who is Johnny Cash.
00:41:08
Jo
Even with the American albums like Hurt, the remake of Hurt.
00:41:11
Amelie
You need to, as a millennial, yes.
00:41:14
Jo
Huh.
00:41:14
Amelie
As a millennial, yes, you need to, right? A lot of people who are a boy fan were like, oh, Johnny Cash, you know, this is a story, da-da-da-da.
00:41:17
Jo
Interesting.
00:41:21
Amelie
I'm like, oh, interesting. Okay, good. Because of video game and because of TikTok, e as a popular he popularity with a Gen Z because the song Hurt, he's taken for a lot of trailer for a lot of video games.
00:41:31
Jo
What game? Yeah.
00:41:37
Jo
Hmm. Oh, really?
00:41:38
Amelie
But her is really beautiful.
00:41:39
Jo
The Nine Inch Nails remake.
00:41:40
Amelie
And a lot, a lot. Like, for example, I was surprised. I listened to Johnny Cash in 2010. So I was 20 something.
00:41:51
Jo
but Okay.
00:41:52
Amelie
I was surprised a lot of Johnny Cash songs were taken or revisited by... um Ah, forgot the name of the group.
00:42:04
Jo
Kanye West.
00:42:05
Amelie
No.
00:42:06
Jo
The Cash West Productions.
00:42:08
Amelie
shihi shuhu Enjoy the silence.
00:42:11
Jo
j youru
00:42:12
Amelie
That's all. You are are personal.
00:42:14
Jo
journalist ah jeron Duran Duran.
00:42:17
Amelie
Personal. Jesus.
00:42:19
Jo
Yeah, okay, Depeche Mode.
00:42:21
Amelie
Merci. Thank you. Despechement. Despechement took a lot of songs.
00:42:23
Jo
Let's see, there could be Duran Duran, Depeche Mode.
00:42:25
Amelie
No, Despechement.
00:42:27
Jo
Whoa, no, okay.
00:42:28
Amelie
So if you ask me.
00:42:28
Jo
Cash did a Depeche Mode song, Personal Jesus.
00:42:32
Amelie
yeah
00:42:33
Jo
That's a remake by Cash. That's not Depeche Mode remaking a Cash song.
00:42:38
Amelie
It's Johnny Cash who took the song from Debeshman?
00:42:42
Jo
Yeah.
00:42:43
Amelie
Really?
00:42:44
Jo
Yeah.
00:42:45
Amelie
Are you really for real?
00:42:47
Jo
for For real, dude. Yes, yes.
00:42:49
Amelie
Oh man, didn't know that. Mm-hmm.
00:42:50
Jo
but Nine Inch Nails did hurt. Johnny Cash does hurt. Covered it, man.
00:42:55
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:42:55
Jo
Covered it. This is during his American 1, 2, 3, 4, and I think 5 albums. It might be 5. Maybe even more. And then he did Personal Jesus, which was a cover Depeche Mode song.
00:43:04
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:43:06
Jo
He covered U2 as well. He covered us.
00:43:10
Jo
Shit, I think Colin... Who did Rusty Cage? Was that Soundgarden? No, I can't remember.
00:43:14
Amelie
Because lot of his songs, this song he takes from different groups and songs and everything, they're used nowadays on YouTube a lot for video games by Gen Z and stuff because it's really dark.
00:43:20
Jo
Yeah.
00:43:24
Jo
Because his version's better.
00:43:27
Amelie
Yes! Because the man, ta-ta-ta-ta. And sometimes there's some song where he speaks and they listen and his voice and his presence, his charisma and the person
00:43:31
Jo
yeah
00:43:35
Jo
Right. Okay, but that's, of course, that's Johnny Cash, but with Ozzy Osbourne, right, we are taking someone, i can't remember if Ozzy did cover cover songs.
00:43:38
Amelie
Yeah.
00:43:47
Jo
He might have done one or two.
00:43:50
Amelie
He's more on TV. He did a lot of commercial. He's really funny. And there is American commercial for candy.
00:43:54
Jo
Yeah.
00:43:55
Amelie
He's like, hey, kids, you like that candy? Listen to grandpa. Do not snow it. He's like, but we we're not planning on snowing it. And be very careful with what you do. Don't drink and don't do drugs.
00:44:07
Amelie
Do candy. He's like, but we're just in a skate park. That's all. Like, it's really funny because he played with his persona of guy who was totally crazy talking to the new generation who is really nice, you know.
00:44:11
Jo
Yeah.
00:44:18
Amelie
So, yeah, he's known. He's known, but not... as a rock star, he's more known like he used to be, he's a rock star, he's a singer, but he's really funny, he's really cool, like the dad, grandpa kind of thing, it's really interesting.
00:44:31
Jo
Well, which is weird because you had to grow into that. I mean, ah ah for me, for me, it's funny, you bring up the the the drug and alcohol thing.
00:44:36
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:44:41
Jo
I don't get hangovers because the first time I went drinking, like really professional level drinking, it must have been, we'll say 15, 16, whatever was.
00:44:41
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:44:45
Amelie
Mm-hmm.
00:44:55
Jo
And I fell asleep listening to Ozzy Osbourne. I think at that time it was like Black Sabbath album.
00:45:03
Jo
And I didn't get a hangover when I woke up. Because in the first time, like, you watch out for the hangovers. You know, they're really tough there. And I'm like, what's a hangover? i was like really, really, really trashed.
00:45:17
Jo
And pressed play on my boombox before I pass out. And when I woke it was ASEAN, just on tape, I think. And when I woke up, yeah, no hangover whatsoever.
00:45:33
Jo
No ill effects of alcohol. Or also could just be because my how my body processes and metabolizes alcohol as a poison. And it's probably a bad thing, honestly, not having the after effect. Well, think about this.
00:45:47
Jo
Why do people stop drinking? Hangovers.
00:45:51
Amelie
Yeah.
00:45:52
Amelie
Headache, hangover, spooking around, standing up and the room just turned and you're like, I will never, ever, ever get completely drunk.
00:45:52
Jo
So if you don't get the hangovers,
00:45:58
Jo
Yeah.
00:46:03
Jo
Right.
00:46:04
Amelie
Never. And you always go back.
00:46:05
Jo
And if you don't get those, how far do you drink then? there's no If there's no sort of Damocles hanging over your head of a hangover, how far do you push the envelope?
00:46:17
Amelie
So you didn't...
00:46:18
Jo
There's no fear of the repercussion of tomorrow.
00:46:19
Amelie
No migraine, no feeling...
00:46:20
Jo
Nothing. Nothing. However, I do remember drinking so much. Okay, this was Vegas, so I must have been late teens. Everything late teens.
00:46:36
Jo
This is Vegas, so it must have been late teens, early 20s. And I... Warning, kids. If you're listening in other locations, your mileage may vary on this one, okay?
00:46:48
Jo
I was dating a stripper.
Personal Anecdotes and Ozzy's Impact
00:46:52
Jo
I would say exotic dancer was a stripper. And this was like our first date. I picked her up somewhere.
00:46:59
Jo
And in Vegas, it's not like, ooh, I'm dating a stripper. It's kind of like saying you're dating the pizza delivery person. It's a fucking job. Sorry, it's a job. Right? It's just a job. And i was like, excuse me.
00:47:14
Jo
I have vague memories. that kind of hurts my head to remember how really attractive I was. This big blonde, whatever. And cool person, by the way. I don't talk to her anymore, obviously, but still.
00:47:28
Jo
And I remember being so gone because I never knew when to stop. Because the next day was always nothing happened.
00:47:43
Jo
I got alcohol poisoning. And so we're talking about vomiting, fever, thankfully not having my stomach pumped, but I was in bad, bad shape.
00:47:48
Amelie
All who
00:47:59
Jo
And all I can think of was like, she's in my bed. I'm in the i'm on the porcelain. I'm praying into my toilet bowl right now.
00:48:11
Jo
I'm like, never again. This is must but must be a hangover, it feels like, but I got it because I just kept drinking, dummy. And then I started to learn how to modulate my, I kind of always knew, when when my face starts going numb, I start, I stop drinking.
00:48:28
Jo
That's my cue, because otherwise, i don't really have a cue for that. And it can keep going the next time. And just like you just, you know, one day your heart will stop. So yeah, if you don't get hangovers, there's no pain punishment thing. There's theres there's no like, oh my God, going to punished later on for this. You just keep going.
00:48:44
Amelie
It's true. And you always the pride of, oh, look at me, I can drink that many beer.
00:48:48
Jo
I never had that pride.
00:48:48
Amelie
And I can hold it and stuff like that.
00:48:49
Jo
i didn't really care.
00:48:51
Amelie
Oh, enough for Francis. See, I'm a woman.
00:48:53
Jo
Sorry.
00:48:53
Amelie
I can drink beer. I can hold the beer, the alcohol.
00:48:55
Jo
Sorry.
00:48:56
Amelie
I'm not drunk. I'm fine. I can drive. I can walk, have a conversation. Because it's dirty to to get fucked up drunk in France. Like compared to the American, we have this education, very young, very, very young.
00:49:10
Amelie
to drink. Drink is to have a conversation, is to well behave. It's a social thing. You drink wine with your red meat, you drink beer, but you can have party and what we call aperitif and drink, drink, drink.
00:49:22
Jo
Drinking games.
00:49:23
Amelie
Yes. Drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. But I remember... What stopped me is I had the education. I was to a bar. I was drinking with other people. So young people drink with older people. Like you can have 18 years old and the eldest 50 years old. It's fine.
00:49:42
Amelie
We all talk to each other, men and women. Everything is fine. We drink and stuff. And I did shots.
00:49:50
Jo
Okay. Well,
00:49:50
Amelie
I'm 18 years old, it's Slovenia, and for the first time I do shots and I'm like, oh, I can do shots. I'm from north of France, we drink beer. Shots and beer are not the same, right?
00:50:00
Amelie
Especially when the shots are from Serbia and it's homemade. I do not remember the end of the night. I remember feeling really tired and it was Monday night and I woke up on Thursday.
00:50:00
Jo
but yeah no
00:50:17
Amelie
thinking it was Wednesday. is day I was sick all Tuesday. i didn't stop. I would stand up and go ah to to the loo. It was catastrophic.
00:50:25
Jo
Really?
00:50:26
Amelie
And I remember asking my classmate, Flora, and said, oh, I'm going to be late at work. No, no, no, no, no. You were sick. you You stay in sleep. Yeah, but it's Wednesday.
00:50:36
Amelie
No, Emily, it's Thursday. And I'm like, oh, na la, la, la, la la la na na na na na na na na no, no, no.
00:50:40
Jo
I'm really going be late.
00:50:45
Amelie
I did a Peter O'Toole. Like Peter O'Toole said, what time is it? No, no. What day it is? It's the best question.
00:50:52
Jo
Yeah, well, that's true. and that And that's the thing, you know, that's where kind of living in the North woods, growing up Gen X, we we started with whiskey and we switched to beer because beer tastes like crap in America.
00:51:04
Jo
You had to get drunk first to enjoy it. And so you were like, oh, I can do this. stuff No, you can't. Now, here's the here's the other thing for Ozzy, right? We, like the whole not having a hangover thing, I still attribute it to Ozzy. Maybe it's just his magic.
00:51:20
Jo
But there are certain moments in my life that will forever be tied, and I won't talk too much about them, that will forever be tied with Ozzy Osbourne for me.
00:51:32
Jo
Like forever and ever to be tied. That might tell you off camera. There go I'll tell you this story off camera. not telling you that on camera because it's it's not polite to say. But all I know is for all the years and all the things, the one thing that's always been there for me was Ozzy Osbourne's music.
00:51:51
Jo
And it's still there. It's still there. But it's weird world when Ozzy's not. It's like we always joke to be the cockroaches in Ozzy Osbourne, the last people on this planet.
00:52:02
Jo
Well, cockroaches, you better start hugging those buttholes because you're next. That's all we know. So, wow, we talked for an almost an hour on this. Nice. So next week, next week, okay, did you watch Awesomest Maximus yet? Because I watched Showgirls and part of me died watching it. So did you watch your assigned movie of Awesomest Maximus?
00:52:27
Amelie
Not yet. I make some research, of course. I check some trailer and what people think about movie, etc. etc
00:52:34
Amelie
I really look forward to watch it.
00:52:34
Jo
Yeah.
00:52:36
Jo
Good. and
00:52:37
Amelie
I really like movies who are laughing at other movies because it's a world art.
00:52:41
Jo
Yeah.
00:52:44
Jo
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And then like next week, we'll we'll start doing that. We'll maybe start doing this. We'll go. Of course, we still got Barry season two coming out. We've got some new movies. Fantastic four is out Friday.
00:52:57
Jo
Fantastic four is out today, I think. So maybe I think or maybe next Friday. I'm not sure. So we'll talk about Fantastic Four. Thanks for all your love for the Superman com ah ah man movie.
00:53:10
Jo
That was brilliant. Thanks for all the Barry stuff. You have been supporting that. and My interviews with J.D. Barker, like even the the small trailer bits. So I want to say thanks for all your support. Honestly, it does mean a lot.
00:53:22
Jo
And if you can, just click. I know if you stayed with us for 53 minutes, like and subscribe. It does help, guys. It does help. So, behalf of myself, Joe and my co-host, Amelie, I bid you let the madness begin.
00:53:38
Jo
bye everyone. Deuces.
00:53:41
Amelie
Bye.