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EPISODE 4 - Mock Draft!! What QB do the Patriots take? trade?
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Introduction and Patriots Mock Draft
00:00:00
Speaker
All right. Welcome to the Savage Boston podcast. That was Brett coming in hot early. Yeah, so today we're going to do our first Savage Boston mock draft. So it's not going to be obviously a full mock, but I thought it'd be good for us to go through and maybe we'll do a top 10, obviously focusing on the Patriots and
00:00:26
Speaker
in kind of who we think they're gonna take. Although you think everyone's picks might be the same, there's kind of, there's a little more variation than you think.
Prospect Hype: JJ McCarthy and Jayden Daniels
00:00:36
Speaker
And, you know, again, things we can touch on as we go, or like, you know, I find JJ McCarthy fascinating, not necessarily for the Patriots before people get mad, but just fascinating how much hype he's getting. And even today, as we're recording, this is 327.24, Jane Daniels had his pro day today. I don't hear,
00:00:56
Speaker
shit about people hyping up Jane Daniels' Pro Day. If anything, yeah, he's athletic, but people are just mostly saying, yeah, he's got a good zip on the ball, but he missed a bunch of throws today. Got a little excited, missed people high. So that's all I'm saying. There's just some fascinating stuff going around. So that being said, do you guys have anything to add or do you want to talk about before we get into the mock?
00:01:21
Speaker
No, I think we're good. We'll just jump right into it. We'll probably
Caleb Williams: Consensus First Pick
00:01:25
Speaker
align with our first three picks, I would think. And then after that, it might be a little interesting. I'm curious to see what you guys have in mind if there's any trades that go down. I don't think we got to discuss what the trade capital is, but if anyone trades into the top ten. Unless you really want to.
00:01:44
Speaker
Yeah, we'd be it would be a shit show if we tried to pick those sort of selections, but yeah You guys don't have your trade value charts up
00:02:04
Speaker
Yeah, so what we'll do again is we'll, we'll go through it. I will probably go in order that we have right here on the podcast recorder, go Savage and Snooty, then Brett in order. So obviously this first round, this is like the most set heck.
00:02:19
Speaker
Clearly, but number one overall, Kayla Williams, of course. Not much to be said, easily the most, just a heavy, heavy
Caleb Williams vs Past QB Prospects
00:02:29
Speaker
favorite. Clearly, I think he's really talented, super polished, can kind of do it all. He's a pretty darn good prospect, one of the better quarterback prospects in a while, who could probably step in day one and be better than what Justin Fields was.
00:02:46
Speaker
So, yeah, so I think Caleb Williams, I'm selecting at number one overall. Snooty, you go for it. It's definitely Caleb Williams. I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer. Hello, are you there, Snooty? I am here. Can you hear me? Okay. I can hear you. Yeah. Anything else you want to add or... No, it's definitely... You don't have to add anything if you don't want to add anything. It's definitely Caleb Williams. I mean, there's no point in discussing any further. It's Caleb Williams. Yeah.
00:03:16
Speaker
Gotcha. All right. So I'll be easy. Caleb Williams. But my prediction is he's going to flame out like three, four years in. He's not going to be all like earth shattering elite. I think he's going to be like middle of the pack style quarterback. Just because he's a mental case or what is it? Is it his mentality, his family? Like what's the deal?
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I just don't think he's got the makeup to do it at the high level and commit the level you have to commit to be there. I just, I haven't seen him do it at a high level. And, you know, sometimes I think when there's so much hype around a guy, they typically don't deliver. So I just, I mean, what's the, like, what's the last guy that had a ton of hype coming in at the QB level and like delivered early on?
00:04:10
Speaker
I mean, you know, we talked about the all time prospects, but like, you know, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Trevor Lawrence was the last one that was a consensus one that has really not lived up to the hype. Like he's an okay quarterback. He's pretty good. So you got like two QBs in the last two decades.
00:04:29
Speaker
I'm just saying, I think it's probably going to happen with him just as he's got too much hype. He's going to Chicago. Chicago's where they all go to die. My prediction is like three to five years, he is like mid pack, nothing really pushing the needle. I think it's not making a difference. It's interesting you brought that up because actually
00:04:50
Speaker
I think luck is a good comparison. Not that he's the same caliber prospect as luck. Luck was like an all-timer. But the only reason luck didn't live up to, if you consider luck to have not lived up to those expectations, it's because Indy broke him. And I think that's what's gonna happen with him. I think the Bears will break him. That's where quarterbacks go to die. That's just, they can't- It's a really bad spot for quarterbacks. They can't have things. It's the land of forgotten toys. Like it just is what it is.
Commanders' QB Decision: Daniels or McCarthy?
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Speaker
So he might- I think they never even had like a,
00:05:21
Speaker
Have they ever had a good quarterback? They've never had a 4,000-yard passer. I mean, I can't believe that.
00:05:31
Speaker
In the modern game, it truly feels unbelievable that that could still happen. That's just a brutal franchise for the last many, many years. All right. We'll move on just from the sake of time. We'll move on to number two. This is where, obviously, we could get squirrely. I'm really close to making an edgy pick here, but I won't for the sake of not sounding crazy. Number two, I will have the commanders take Jane Daniels, although
00:06:01
Speaker
I'm really close to saying, I think, what's his name? Adam Peters there is looking at JJ McCarthy really carefully. I'm just saying, I think he's looking at McCarthy really carefully. I think he's gonna, I mean, they're gonna look at all the quarterbacks just since the Patriots are. I think it's definitely Daniels for a few reasons. I think his skill set fits better into what Kingsbury does than any of the other prospects.
00:06:30
Speaker
He also exudes kind of like a moxie leadership type thing with a brand new front office, brand new coach and all that. You need that on that team. I just think he fits what they want better. He's the highest and winner. It's the whole thing. So I think Daniels will end up being the pick. Gotcha. Brad, what do you think?
00:06:50
Speaker
So I'm going to agree. It's going to be Daniel. And I was hoping we'd have a little mix up the top three, but I think we're all consistent. So let's move. Let's move. Yeah, we can go through. All right. So obviously the focus here for the Patriots pick now.
Patriots' Draft Strategy: Is Drake May the Choice?
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Speaker
There's gonna be a lot of people, I don't know if you guys, this is where we might differ. I don't know if you guys have them trading down, I don't know if you want the haul, you think the Vikings jump up, whatever. But for me, I think Robert Kraft talking the other day just makes it so obvious that he wants them to select a quarterback. I mean, just painfully, publicly obvious, even though he says, hey, I'm not gonna influence football decisions.
00:07:34
Speaker
And then he's talking public, let me put on my fan hat, he's publicly talking about how he really wants them to have a top rate young quarterback. So in my opinion, I do think they go for it with Drake May. I think May has a massive ceiling. And yes, he's a little sloppy, but they have a really good developmental team around the quarterbacks and really good quarterback coaching. And I think they're just gonna,
00:08:01
Speaker
Just coach him up. I got Drake May and I think he's the guy to really grow your team around. So that's my pick for the Patriots is Drake May. I agree. I think they wound up going with May. I think trading down
00:08:17
Speaker
It only happens, and it's obvious, it's the obvious statement. It only happens if you don't like any of the quarterbacks, if you don't have conviction in them. I don't like the Minnesota rumors because I think 11 is too far down. Well, anything, but I think you're going to miss out on a lot of the tackles and receivers that you could possibly draft as well as the quarterbacks. So I don't like the Minnesota rumors.
00:08:40
Speaker
If you were going to move down, I'd prefer to move down to like the giants at six or something like that. Cause that keeps you in the realm where you can still get a blue chip type prospect. Even if, so if you presume that they don't like a quarterback and they're trading down, then I still want them to be able to get a blue chip tackle or blue chip receive or something like that. Six or eight to Atlanta, that those are the places where you'd look to trade down, not all the way down to 11. That being said,
00:09:08
Speaker
You don't ever want to draft this high again. I don't care if you have to have him sit for a year. Take May. Take him at three, if he's there. I got you. What do you think, Brett? May all day. May is going in at three. It's going to happen. I like the pick. He's going to be the better of the three. Bring it in. I want to see them happen. That trade's going to happen later on. We got to get that quarterback. It's a lock.
00:09:34
Speaker
I gotcha. Yeah, everyone. All right. We have their first three picks for everybody at the same. I wonder if everyone's draft is kind of like this. I'm sure people online when I come up with like bold takes now, but I I really feel like May is the right pick for the Patriots. I think he's the right guy. And, you know, if he doesn't have a little bit of a senior drop off because he lost weapons and has a shitty line, he was ridiculous last season. Ridiculous on a not great
00:10:02
Speaker
team. So I think he's got crazy ability and he's a really talented kid. So I'm all about that pick. All right. Number four.
00:10:14
Speaker
So I have the Vikings trading up into this spot.
Vikings' Ambitions: Trading Up for McCarthy?
00:10:17
Speaker
And I think this will obviously be maybe common. I hope we all don't have the same fucking picks. But I think Arizona is so hungry to trade out. And I think they'd be right to trade out. I think there's a lot they could do with that pick. I think the Vikings not getting into value, but it could even just be 11 and 23 up for four. They don't have to include much else unless they
00:10:40
Speaker
The Cardinals really squeezed them and got like a second next year or something or first, but I think the Vikings trade up and draft JJ McCarthy at four overall. That's my pick. So what do you guys see? So yeah, I mean, that's probably the spot where they're going to try to move up. Um, I think when it comes to moving up into the top five and especially for quarterback, you can take the trade value charts and fucking throw them out.
00:11:05
Speaker
Um, it's going to cost three first round picks. It's what it costs in Francisco to move all the way up to three. Just what it's going to happen. It's going to be two ones this year and a first next year. And maybe, or maybe a fifth or something from this year goes back to them.
00:11:21
Speaker
I think they're going to move up if they don't move up. And if it does stay Arizona, then I think Arizona probably sits and takes a receiver. Try to build it. What do you think? What do you think they're doing? They think they are moving up. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, probably. I mean, I think that's where they want to move up. It's four or five where they want to move up. OK. All right. So you've moved up as well. So they move up and do what? Yeah. Tell me, who did they pick? Who did they pick? It's quarterback. The fourth quarterback. JJ McCarthy?
00:11:51
Speaker
Okay, all right, so you have the same vortex. All right, Brett, are you differing or are you in the same boat? I'm differing. And if you're doing a mock draft, you have to pick the player. That's the point of the mock. Oh, they're getting a quarterback. All right. No, I am a quarterback.
00:12:16
Speaker
I make the pick. You didn't make the pick. So I'm going to make the pick. They're not getting out in this spot. I think they're going to keep it as is. And I think they're going with Marvin Harrison. They
Chargers' Draft Dilemma: Harrison Jr. or O-Line?
00:12:28
Speaker
need a wide receiver. They're in a spot with Murray where they're not going to be able to maneuver off of that. And I think it's one of those areas where they look at him.
00:12:38
Speaker
You know, they got Hopkins, who's on the aging spot. I think they're going to look at this and say, and this could be all generational style, talented wide receiver. And they're going to take them. Marvin Harrison fourth pick. Nice. Um, all right. Moving on a fifth, the chargers. Um, so they hit, they have, there's some interesting stuff here. Cause I have some quotes today from.
00:13:02
Speaker
Harbaugh about talking about the offensive line position, but I feel like they have such a Ridiculous need now at wide receiver for her pert and a rookie to be good So I'm gonna say they take Marvin Harrison jr I think he is pretty generational Really close though with neighbors neighbors looks like a total absolute freak show Ridiculous measurables and and I think you can't you can't go wrong with either guy, but I'll say they pick Marvin Harrison and
00:13:31
Speaker
Uh, they're going Joel Joel. It's the best thing. Uh, he's the best lineman in the class. It fits what, um, Harbaugh likes to do. They're going to come in. They're going to run the ball. It's what he does. It's what he's done everywhere he's ever been. Um, don't get me wrong. He'll still, you know, um, Herbert was still put up numbers and they're still going to throw the ball around, but, uh,
00:13:55
Speaker
Harbaugh more than anybody knows the value of an offensive lineman alt is head and shoulders in my opinion the best alignment in this draft It's alt alt is the picket five boom
00:14:07
Speaker
All right, we're different here. I'm going neighbors because they clearly they don't have wide receiver score. I mean, they got rid of Allen. They got to write of Mike Williams. You got to look at it and say, all right, who the hell are they throw into? And you got a guy like neighbors out there who's like arguably like just as good, if not better than M.H.J.
00:14:29
Speaker
You can't sit there and put her but out in an island say go get them So they're getting the wide receiver for him. Give me neighbors of five Number six to the Giants that's where I have neighbors That huge I guess dinner with him yesterday or something like he's he's gonna be a I think a really really good player it just think that the
00:14:54
Speaker
I think Daniel Jones isn't the guy, but that's beside the point. I think neighbors is going to be excellent. He's kind
Giants' Offensive Options: Nabers or Harrison Jr.?
00:15:00
Speaker
of like OBJ was, like maybe that big rookie for the Giants to be really flashy. So I got neighbors going six to the G-Men. Marvin Harrison, Jr. All the same rationale you want to maximize to get whatever you can get out of Daniel Jones. I think if a quarterback were to fall here, they would take a very long, hard look at him.
00:15:24
Speaker
But in this scenario, it's way too early to go for the fifth quarterback. I think it'll be Marvin Hasen Jr. All right. This is where I think the Vikings slide in. I think they're going to be able to pick with the Giants. Giants will take a little bit of a step back in the draft. And this is where I think they're going to make their move. And they're going to go get JJ. So I think the Vikings are going to slide into this spot here at six. To six.
00:15:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'd be bad. They'd have to give up a lot less than you sign up to four But it's still gonna it's still gonna cost them some capital and you know the the Giants obviously need some draft capital But they're not like completely in dire straits, right? Yeah, I think that I think that's where the trade is and I think that's where it's gonna happen JJ to Michigan That's what's gonna happen Nice All right, seventh overall to the Titans. I got Joe all
00:16:21
Speaker
Just big need, big need for a left tackle there. And I think he's a pretty obvious choice, the best tackle in the class. So Joe Alt to the Titans at seven. I have Foshanu going to the Titans at seven. Same rationale. Foshanu's a little bit more of a raw prospect compared to Alt, but he is physically, his upside is just amazing. He's a very talented player, not as
00:16:48
Speaker
Not quite the measurables that Alt has, but his ceiling is very, very high as well. So for Sean under the tightens at seven.
00:16:57
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going alt. I think it's a clear spot for them. And obviously, Phil is an immediate need they have. He is the best offensive lineman in the draft. He's going seven. He'll be top 10. Really probably should go sooner. I think some of the reach for some of the quarterbacks, always the wisest, getting someone like alt on the end. He's just going to be that franchise plug and play and seeing the Hall of Fame kind of guy.
00:17:28
Speaker
No, what's funny is up until the first seven picks, I think we've all chosen only offensive players, which is interesting. I know it's an incredibly deep, heavy tackle and wide receiver draft.
00:17:45
Speaker
And again, obviously they rushed to the top for the quarterbacks. It's funny that no defenders are really creeping up into the top. And number eight overall is the first one. I think it's a pretty popular common pick for the Falcons, which is Dallas Turner, who's a good freak show. Just going to be a really, really good dynamic player. So I don't really know that much about what the Falcons want, but I think that's a pretty easy pick. I'm going to go different. I'm going to say neighbors here.
00:18:15
Speaker
Because I think Aaron Nabors falls, and I think the value would be too much for them. He would be the most explosive player they have. I know they have a ton of talent on offense already, but their defense is pretty well stocked overall. That's what everybody keeps saying. And I think you finally have a quarterback now, in theory. At Nabors, he's an explosive weapon and makes any offense better.
00:18:43
Speaker
Yeah, see, I'm going to say opposite and I'm actually going to go Dallas Turner. I thought it was funny that you were sitting there, alluding to like, we all went offense. And I'm like, are you saying that because we're about to go to defense with the Falcons? So yeah, I mean, give me Turner. I think he's going to be a stud coming into the league and be like a menace coming off the edge at times. So yeah, Turner.
00:19:06
Speaker
Yeah, it feels like an easy pick. Number nine, back to the Bears.
Bears Eyeing Offensive Weapons: Odunze or Bowers
00:19:11
Speaker
This is pending. They want to trade down or get more picks or anything. I'll just say they select here. It's so hard to predict trades as you get further down the line. I'll have them going for Roma Dunze. I think a Dunze, he's not going to perform or run this pro day. I don't necessarily know if he's helping himself now.
00:19:33
Speaker
Maybe he's being smart stepping away because after watching neighbors today have like really fantastic numbers. I don't think he wants to be compared to that because he's going to run like a four or five. Did he did he run at the combine? I don't know. I don't think I believe he did.
00:19:47
Speaker
Did he run a 40? But yeah, I think he runs like four or five, but I think next to neighbors, athleticism, he just, maybe he wants to not do that. You know what I mean? Because neighbors, to be honest today, was pretty impressive. So yeah, so I got them taking Roma Dunze, just picking up another young weapon for Caleb Williams, and then Chicago's got, what, Keenan Allen? Who's that other? I forget who else they have. It was a DJ Moore, and Roma Dunze.
00:20:17
Speaker
Is the DJ more than half? They did. Yeah. They got DJ from Carolina. No, no, like that's pretty, that's pretty good, man. All of a sudden you got three dudes and you try to make see like, is Caleb Williams real deal? Cause they're going to play him for day one. Like I don't think anyone plays for Caleb. I think he comes in and plays. So, so yeah, I got them Roma Dunsey at nine. He also, he did run. He ran a four, four, five. That's pretty good for his size. It is a number nine. I'm going to go same thought pattern, but I'm going to go Brock Bowers.
00:20:47
Speaker
pop tight in a real hard guy to tackle physically. He doesn't look super imposing, um, at least compared to some of the other tenants in this draft. Um, but I mean, he's held football player. I mean, did it at Georgia and the sec, uh, numbers, by the way, like offensive numbers, um, you know, the, the, the old, uh, the old adage is the
00:21:12
Speaker
Quarterbacks best friend is a as a tight end, right? So you get a rookie quarterback at one You might get the second best player in this draft at nine the Brock Bowers Wow Yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna go defense again and give me Jared verse Fsu I think they're gonna get an edge guy. They got to get someone else to help out on that defense They're gonna go offense obviously early and then I think they're gonna go defense. So Give me another edge guy coming in the top ten It's gonna happen pick nine
00:21:42
Speaker
Nice. All right, number 10, then we'll end at the mock here. The Jets, our old friends, the Jets. I think Bowers would be a popular pick here, but I think it'd be smarter for them, or I'm going to say they do it. I think they'd pick up Olu Foshanu, solidify the line. They got, what, Tyrone Smith or whatever, who's got a crazy incentive deal, but I just think bring another big tackle and can't go wrong there. So Foshanu.
00:22:12
Speaker
Uh, same line, but given I have for Sean, we're already off the board, uh, Fuaga, offensive tackle, Oregon state. Um, he's, he's, I think he's flying up draft boards. Um, we're gonna say not really known for their football prowess, but they had a real good team, real good old line. This kid's a good player. Um, he's a big, nasty motherfucker. So I think he would fit in need. He may not start right away with Smith, but Smith can't stay healthy. So.
Jets' O-Line Reinforcement Plans
00:22:51
Speaker
Yeah. So this is where I'm going to go to do and say, you know, I think they need to get another weapon out there, put them next to Garrett Wilson. I think it's going to give, you know, hate to say it Rogers, just another person to go out there and get up there. I was considering Brock Bowers and then I was considering offensive lineman, but I just think having a guy like that out there, he's, he's, he's top 10 talent. Take him. Nice.
00:23:08
Speaker
I'm sure he would get some time this year and you know, unfortunately, the Jets would get a good player.
00:23:18
Speaker
So yeah, there's, so there's our, that's the inaugural mock. We got like about how many days now, you know, like 29. We'll have to, uh, too many. That's all we've been talking about. Um, but you know, the draft April 25th, what Thursday night, no, I've just the first, um, I mean, for you guys, when you look at, when you look at, as you brought up earlier, Brad, when you bring up who you think it's going to be,
00:23:47
Speaker
Offensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, I think that's a good prediction, good question. I also kind of like talking about who actually do you think will be the most successful quarterback in the class? So let's start with who wins offensive rookie of the year, in your opinion, in 2024? Snooty, you go first.
00:24:09
Speaker
I mean, if Marvin Harrison goes forward to, uh, Arizona, he might, uh, simply because he'll be. Probably besides being arguably the best wide receiver in the draft, he'll, he will almost assuredly go to the team with the best quarterback, um, which will enable him to put up numbers and, you know, that would really work out well. So presuming he goes to Arizona, I think it'll be Harrison. Okay.
00:24:38
Speaker
Nice, right? What do you think? I'm going neighbors. He's going to the charges of my book. I mean, that's obviously what I just put for a mock and he's going to have a better quarterback in Justin Herbert than what Arizona has. So I think it's going to be one of those situations where he's coming in. He's going to be the clear number one and he's got a. I think you know top 10 level quarterback out there throwing to him and I think he's going to feast. So give me neighbors rookie of the year.
00:25:09
Speaker
Who won it? Was it CJ Stroud that won in 2023? Did Stroud win? Yeah, Stroud. Yeah, he had a great season. I'm going to go with Caleb Williams. I think it's easier maybe to go with a wide receiver. Sometimes they get put in a good situation. I think if Marvin Harrison Jr. is on the Chargers with Herbert, he could put up numbers. I think that could be a really good situation for him. But I'm going to go with Caleb Williams.
00:25:39
Speaker
If they do have if they do take let's say a doomsday or neighbors or something right they get a really talented wide receiver and they have DJ more they have Keenan Allen and you got this guy who's supposed to come in and and ball I think he could have a pretty impressive season so so yeah I'm gonna take
00:25:58
Speaker
Yeah, I'll take Caleb Williams for that. Because even if the Patriots get, you know, let's say Drake May or who we're all we all think they're going to get, he's not even going to play. He wouldn't play nearly the whole season, let alone any of the season necessarily. We don't even know how much time he'll get. So so, yeah, so I'm going Caleb Williams defensive rookie of the year. I guess like we didn't even pick many defensive players. So who do you guys have for defensive rookie of the year?
00:26:28
Speaker
I mean, I'll go first. I got Dallas Turner. I mean, I think he's going to feast in that division. Division sucks. Yeah. I just think he's a beast off the edge. Those guys have done well coming into the league. They're going to put up some stats and numbers on highlight reels. Give me Turner. Got it. I'm going to go oddball. I'm just going to say Byron Murphy. He's going to slip a little bit in the draft. So you're going to go somewhere.
00:26:53
Speaker
where he's going to get a little bit more airtime and primetime games. Perhaps he's a replacement for Aaron Donald in LA. I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald, but he fit that mold of the little bit shorter. But the explosive defensive tackle, I think he's going to put up some numbers this year and turn some heads. So Barry Murphy.
00:27:24
Speaker
wacky on his name, but what is it like Lele recording? Sorry, we had a snafu. Of my own doing. Yeah, so Latu, who is I think gonna be, I'll choose him for defensive rookie of the year. I think he's supposed to be a pretty dynamic player off the edge. Dallas Turner easily could pick as well. I just think Latu is supposed to be really dynamic. So yeah, Brad, why don't you go ahead and ask your question you just asked us.
00:27:51
Speaker
Yeah, no, I was just saying, you know, what's your guys thoughts? Do you guys like the prime time spot for the draft starting on a Thursday night and, you know, going Friday night and then they got, you know, late rounds on the weekend? Or do you guys kind of miss the days of when we had the draft started at noon and it was kind of like an all day event on Saturday, get through like the first, you know, three, four rounds on a Saturday and then finish it off on a Sunday. What do you guys think? What's your preference?
00:28:20
Speaker
I like how it is now because we have children, you know what I mean? Like without, um, you know, I think if we didn't have kids, I did like the whole all day Saturday thing. I'm sure you have some beers, hang out, like you need to watch it all day, sit on the couch. But now it's like, I'm thinking, what time does it start Thursday night? Is it like a seven PM? Oh, I think it's like eight o'clock. That's a Gatorade 30. Jeez, it's late. Um,
00:28:49
Speaker
So what I mean by that is like, I thought if it started at seven, the kids would still be awake, then I'll watch the first few pics with the kids awake. But now I'm like, all right, well, just get them down early. And you know what I mean? I'll just have
NFL Draft Timing: Saturday Format Preference?
00:29:03
Speaker
to be like set up in time. So it creates a little bit of havoc, as you guys know, that's all getting kind of towards the middle of bedtime area for the kids. So I don't know. What do you guys think?
00:29:15
Speaker
I definitely prefer Saturday because I'm a fucking old curmudgeon and given my full day Saturday where I can wait like eight hours for the Patriots to draft Logan Mankins and have no freaking clue who he is and then four seconds after a highlight video later.
00:29:34
Speaker
I'm all in. You're so hyped on Logan Mankins. That was tremendous. We had no idea who he was. I think we wanted, who was it? The guy, I want to say it was Ball from the center from Michigan we wanted. And they took Mankins instead. So give me the Saturday, all day. I hate it how it is now. I hate it. I want one, two, and three on Saturday, and then four through seven, just a blur of lesser guys on day two that I want.
00:30:03
Speaker
Oh, you think totally agree. Totally agree. I missed the all day Saturday. Give me the let me set myself up in this chair at noon. I've got a spread of meat. I got pizza. I got beer. I'm telling the wife and kids to leave me the hell alone so I can watch the draft.
00:30:23
Speaker
Give me Saturday all day long. I would love to bring that back. These late night things. I mean, yeah, it starts at eight o'clock. I'm like falling asleep before the end of the draft. I mean, it's almost like thank God we're the third pick in a sense because I can actually stay awake and not have to worry about waiting up to pick number 32, which I would fucking pull my hair out just trying to wait up. Give me that Saturday draft all day long. Nostalgia all the way. Would love it.
00:30:49
Speaker
It's the way to watch the draft. You can enjoy it. Draft is meant to be shared with your boys, hanging out, watching it, talking about what's going on. Let's be real. People aren't going out and hanging out at 8 o'clock at night to watch the draft. It's just not happening. At least I'm not going to the pub for the draft. That's certainly nothing. We're all working.
00:31:11
Speaker
the next day, but we're all old now. We're 22, maybe we'd be out somewhere. But yeah, it's definitely not now. But yeah, I don't mind it, like I said, because at least on a Saturday, the kids are awake or doing something, or I'm going driving them somewhere. We're at basketball. Who knows what we're doing? And I think the older thing.
00:31:38
Speaker
Snooty's going to teach his kids young. They're going to know what it's like to watch the draft all day long. They're going to be locked in. His son's going to be writing it. Unfortunately, my girls have no interest, so there's no way they're going to want to watch it. I don't want to watch any of the Patriots, Brad. You can't get them to watch any.
00:31:56
Speaker
Well, I mean, there was definitely the Taylor Swift effect. Let me just say that with my oldest. She was tuning in. She was watching, but basketball is her love. She's locked in on basketball. She watches more Celtics coverage than I do. She's all in. That's sweet. Good for her. Good for her. That's good. Yeah, some sports to be into. I mean, Caitlin Clark's going to be a big two. That's probably
00:32:20
Speaker
She's like a superstar, man. Caitlin Kirk is huge. It's awesome. I'm going on Saturday, bringing my daughter, bringing my wife. We're going on Saturday. Check it out. We'll see two games out in Albany. So yeah, it's pretty exciting.
00:32:38
Speaker
I got to say, I mean, not to like go down a rabbit hole, because I know a lot of people probably don't really care too much about women's NCAA basketball tournament. But I think even Shaq said it the other day, like what's going on in the women's game right now in sports, it's better than what's going on in the men's side. It's just a, it's a great product. And they're doing well. But like I said, I don't think people want it.
00:33:04
Speaker
But it's not even just Caitlin Clark, dude. They got Paige Buckets, Paige Bueckers down in Connecticut. It was really good. Obviously, you got the LSU as the reigning champions with Angel Reese, and they have this girl, Hailey Van Leth, who came in from Louisville.
00:33:20
Speaker
They're like a solid team and I'll get a chance to see them on Saturday against UCLA, which is actually a better team than LSU. So I mean, it's just a, it's a good product, good game. Um, and yeah, I mean, I think Caitlin Clark was a spark plug and you had a little bit of that bird magic effect with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese last year. That's kind of drawing some attention to the sport, which is great. And I'm happy to see it. Cause.
00:33:46
Speaker
Obviously, I look at someone like my daughter who's really passionate young into basketball and it's something that's Promising for us you coming up, but now we'll see what happens all that and you didn't even name the best team, South Carolina. Oh My god, you didn't base team rolled like they've won 33 34 in a row, which is insane Absolutely insane. I know if I would love to have seen South Carolina, but um, I
00:34:12
Speaker
Yeah, it was tricky to kind of navigate when we're mapping out tickets and trying to go through. So we're going Saturday. It's probably going to be a huge turnout. I mean, I think the Iowa game they had last round was like the highest viewership with like 5 million plus viewers for their game on ESPN on a Monday night game. Yeah, honestly, good for them. That's, you know, I wish the men's game had more stars, but they also had, they all go to the NBA. You know what I mean?
00:34:42
Speaker
Nick stars when you're one year done or you're just going straight to the league.
Red Sox's Season Outlook: Management Woes
00:34:46
Speaker
You know what I mean? It's just not, it's tough, but last thing we should touch on really quick is no one seems to care about this, but the Red Sox ironically start tomorrow, literally tomorrow. There's Red Sox baseball. What's your over under this season on the Red Sox? Give me how many wins the Red Sox get.
00:35:11
Speaker
76 I'll go I was thinking like 82 81 something like that, but yeah, they suck It's obviously everyone's just more upset that I set my over under an 80 maybe they overperform 78 80 but like
00:35:34
Speaker
It's just nobody cares. I mean, nobody cares. This is the weirdest thing. It's like they've done a really great job of eliminating all passion from somehow from the fan base. Like this fan base is ready to care and ready to explode. And they've just done absolutely nothing with it, which is just super disappointing. They're not messaging it correctly. What they're trying to do is they're trying to be the raise, but with more players locked up because they have more money, I guess.
00:36:04
Speaker
But they're not even marketing themselves as like, look, we're trying to do this, trying to do that. They're like completely ignoring or just bypassing the fact that they're just like punting on multiple years in a row.
00:36:16
Speaker
like no no no we definitely want to win we totally want to win but you know but why would they have said full throttle though like well honestly why would that even have been something to cross his mind if he had any communication with john henry who's said they're not spending money like why would that have been something he would say because they lack all ability to understand how the fans feel they've never ever ever
00:36:42
Speaker
been good at understanding public perception of them or their team. They've never been good at that. It's why when they shit all over Fran Kona, when he left and they got all sorts of blowback for that, they were like, oh, what do you mean? Oh my God. And you're like, oh, I don't know, maybe slandering the guy to win a world's multiple world series here for the first time in 80 years, 90, 86 years, you know, which was a bad thing over personal matters when he didn't even do anything. Like they do this routinely.
00:37:09
Speaker
They're so out of touch. They need to hire someone who just all his entire job or their entire job is to just sit in the room and go, that's fucking stupid. Don't do that. Just that they just need one person to be like, maybe don't do that. That's that's not going to go over well. That's they just need a common sense director. That's the only that's what they need. They lack all ability, all ability to do that, to have any common sense whatsoever. Yeah, it's been a really, really
00:37:39
Speaker
Horrible horrible look to this offseason mostly because as people touch on you can't just switch how you manage a team You can't have like an a top three top four payroll Which has been in every single season they've won a World Series last 20 years has had a top three top four payroll every single time
00:38:00
Speaker
And now I think they're at 10th or 13th or something. They're like, they're like middle of the pack and payroll because they've just radically changed how they're running this team. Maybe they're looking to the future and realizing somehow, you know, baseball is not making the money it used to make or they're not as profitable, but it's clearly about money. And, uh, and it's just, yeah, it's just super disappointing. So like they keep trying to, you know, go the route of prospects, which fine, but they cannot draft and develop pitching.
00:38:29
Speaker
They can't do it. They don't have any fee in the high majors, anywhere close to have, you know, it's just bail. That's it. But he's not really a prospect anymore. Right? Like, so they don't have much in the way of like top tier pitching in the minors, especially the high minors. So you're going to have to go pay for that because you can't draft and develop that. If you want to tell me you're not going to pay for, well, first of all, they just signed story. But if you can develop short stops and middle infielders and you don't want to pay for them,
00:38:58
Speaker
fine I guess if you have a history of bringing those guys up which they did for a little bit but then they bring in story they let Bogarts walk and they just do nothing but draft and develop middle infielders it's like the only people they just they don't have any pitching they have no pitching they refuse to invest anything in pitching and that's how you're gonna win
00:39:19
Speaker
I mean, people online, I don't get how people are being like, oh yeah, no, just wait and watch, don't be negative. Dude, they've had three to last four seasons are in last place. And they refuse to spend money. The ownership doesn't care about winning or spending money. So what part of this makes you feel like not being negative? Why would you not be negative? What rationale is there to not be negative? It's embarrassing.
00:39:49
Speaker
Um, but yeah, so I guess, you know, we'll probably wrap up here. Um, good mock. I think we're all pretty close. Um, and yeah, long story short, uh, you know, I think we all think they're going to lock down Drake may that being said wildcard. What if they fought? What if the commanders fall in love with like Drake may, what if they fall in love with JJ McCarthy?
00:40:11
Speaker
Nobody knows. This is why it's all speculative. We all just assume now that they're taking Jane Daniels. They might look at him and be like, Adam, he's not the guy for me. You know what I mean? We don't know that. So that's just hype. You may end up having to stay up because there's a good chance that they could move in to the end of the first round from 34. Yeah.
00:40:32
Speaker
Try to target someone like, uh, Mitchell from AD Mitchell from, uh, or he's legit worthy from Texas or, you know, one of those guys that wide receivers that sits kind of towards the end of the, the first round tackle someone like Guyton, if he fell from Oklahoma or Mims from, um, Georgia, who's 60 Mitchell's 40, six, eight, three 40 Mims. He's, uh, if you could build someone in a lab to play left tackle, it would look like him.
00:41:03
Speaker
It's a deep, it's a really good deep draft, so. All right, boys, we're gonna wrap up here. Take it easy. We'll see you next time. Peace. Peace.