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Episode 15: Missing 411, Portals, UFO Connections, & Bigfoot!
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In this episode Jim and Jenn discuss the strange disappearances (Missing 411) and the unexplained with portals, dimensions, aliens/UFO's and Bigfoot! We talked about Missing 411 and David Paulides excellent work and to find ways you too can help. Kindly check out his YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@canammissingproject
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Introduction to The Brave Journey Within
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to The Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing, wisdom, and consciousness expansion experienced along the way. Welcome to another edition of The Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. Welcome, Jen. Hey, guys. How you doing? Well, we have a fun episode for you today. We're going to get a little weird.
00:00:30
Speaker
We kind of always get a little weird, which is fun. Yeah, we always do get a little weird. Yeah, but this is a little weirder than weird.
David Paulides and Missing 411
00:00:39
Speaker
So I know we want to get into some of David Paulides, hopefully I'm saying that correctly, but his organization, which I think is called CanAm,
00:00:52
Speaker
Uh, which is, you know, people that go out and try to solve, uh, missing persons cases. And, uh, his show, or I guess it's a series of books and then also movies and YouTube channel and stuff as called missing four, one, one. And perhaps two years ago, he wrote, or no, he produced a movie called missing four, one, one. And was it the UFO connection?
00:01:21
Speaker
That's what it was. Yeah. I've only watched some of his shows and they're always fascinating. Yeah. So I was just going through his latest episode because he's pretty consistent, um, with all these missing persons cases that, you know, it's kind of frightening that you have no idea how many things go on around you that you never know about. Yeah. It's, it's mind blowing, right? Like you don't know of everything that happens around you.
00:01:52
Speaker
And these things are happening all the time or in certain parts of the country, um, which is interesting, you know, as it relates to missing persons.
Mysterious Disappearances and Anomalous Zones
00:02:03
Speaker
Um, and one of the things that I learned watching him is that there's certain areas, almost like the Bermuda triangle, if you want to call it that, which is like certain hotspots where people tend to go missing. And a lot of it is just unexplained and bizarre.
00:02:22
Speaker
It really is so bizarre. Some of those stories are incredible. I remember some of the ones I've watched where it's like even kids will disappear and end up miles in wilderness far, far away from where they disappeared without shoes. A lot of them end up without shoes for some reason. And it's just so bizarre and strange.
00:02:48
Speaker
And there's no real like easy explanation for how things could happen the way they did. So there's, well, maybe there is an easy explanation. Maybe. So there's those cases, which I think we'll maybe get into some of them that we want to share maybe. Um, and then also, I don't know, would you say like the multiverse or like other dimensions?
Meeting on Past Life Regression and UFO Evidence
00:03:18
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Yeah, we're not just in this one physical reality. There's a lot more going on. Yeah. It was, um, interesting. I think I might've shared this before, but I was invited, uh, to have a meeting with a physics professor, uh, out from California and a, um, pilot, uh,
00:03:47
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very accomplished pilot and a hypnotherapist and then me. And we were talking about past life regression and spirituality among other things. And I asked, well, the pilot didn't believe anything. He was like, this is all nonsense. I've never seen a UFO. Although he said his dad was involved in NASA.
00:04:16
Speaker
And there was one thing that he couldn't explain, but that he didn't buy it. But then the physics professor, I asked him, you know, have you ever seen anything? And this is in San Diego, which if you know anything about UFOs is, has some of the best evidence recorded by US Navy pilots. One of the more famous cases,
00:04:46
Speaker
Really in the last what, seven years? It was an event that happened 20 years ago, but was recorded by, uh, I believe there were F 18 pilots. Uh, they call these tick tack videos. Um, and so it was 2004. I think the USS Nimitz was the carrier out in the ocean in San Diego. Anyway, I asked this professor, Hey, do you know anything about this? And he goes, well,
00:05:16
Speaker
The government came up to my door one day and said, could you please take a look at these and let us know your opinion? I was surprised that he shared it. He was like, yeah, he's like, it looks like something out of this world. Although it could have been maybe in the world, I don't know, but maybe that was an out of the world one. Cause there's both. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That's fascinating. I'm, you know,
00:05:48
Speaker
I think, you know, when you're talking about the pilot, I think we see what we're open to. You know, these things are in the sky all over the place. And if you're not paying attention, you're going to miss it. And sometimes it's even cloaked or you just, you just don't see it. So I don't know. I bet he's seen more than he realizes. Well, that video in particular kind of forced the government to acknowledge, okay, these things, something exists.
00:06:18
Speaker
Uh, which that was, I mean, that happened seven years ago now. The government admitted this, which is so funny. Cause if you ask a lot of people now, are UFOs real or whatever? A lot of people are like, well, there's no evidence. Right. I know. Except for the evidence. Except for all the evidence. There's so much evidence. I know. Yeah. Well, I think more and more people are believing and understanding.
00:06:44
Speaker
that it is a reality of some kind. Maybe we don't fully understand all of it, but there is definitely something else from not of Earth, or maybe just things that we don't even understand or can't explain, and
Speed of Light Debate and Multiverse Theories
00:06:59
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maybe even inner Earth. Who knows? There's definitely things going on. Yeah. So before I wrap up with this physics professor, one of the things that I had said was something that I had come across
00:07:14
Speaker
And it was that the speed of light is not necessarily the speed of light. Like there are things that can go faster than the speed of light. And the pilot jumped on me right away. Like, well, that's just nonsense. And the physics professor said, actually, that is not nonsense. It started going into, I can't remember what studies and what particles can move faster than the speed of light. And I was like,
00:07:43
Speaker
Thank God you were here. Cause I wouldn't have had that sort of knowledge. I'm just, I guess part of how my mind works is I'm open to that or I hear something like that and it is immediately triggers. Like you should pay attention to that. What a great conversation. I wish I was part of it. It was super interesting. And then the other part was the theory of the multiverse. I had no idea that that was like an actual theory and
00:08:12
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I guess physics, quantum physics, that you could have multiple dimensions, you know, almost infinite around you and not know and not see it. You know, it's funny with the word dimension, I've heard so many explanations about what dimension even is. And so
00:08:33
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I know a lot of people, I've asked other people, what do you think a dimension is? There's always different answers. No one seems to have a clear understanding or they might have an understanding in their own way of seeing things. But dimension is like a, it's like a different space. It's a different way of being. So when I think of dimensions and when I've asked my guides, they say there are infinite dimensions. Some people talk about us
00:09:01
Speaker
you know, moving from third dimension to fifth dimension. And there's like that sort of understanding of it. And then some people refer to it as almost like if it's like the multiverse, it's like a parallel existence or something like that. So if you're out there confused about what the word dimension means, join the club. I think a lot of people would, I don't think there's really one way of describing it. There's different possible meanings to it.
00:09:29
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But I have an interesting story too. Multiple times I've been, I've experienced, if you want to call it the multiverse where there's like another version of us somewhere. You know, I'm Jen Palmer somewhere else. And you're Jim O'Neill somewhere else. And there's other experiences playing out. And I've had multiple experiences where I entered into what felt like
00:09:56
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a parallel reality, but I was living a very different life and I wasn't dreaming. I wasn't asleep. I literally was doing my own thing. One time in particular, I was at work. It was before I opened up my wellness center and I was at work and I was doing things and I was getting ready to stand up and go see a client of mine. And before I stood up, I suddenly entered into this different reality where I was standing in this yard
00:10:25
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And I had a house and I was standing near a tree and I had a husband and the husband was standing on a ladder and I was, I knew I was me. And, but I also knew that this reality, like it was real. It felt just as real as the one we're in now.
00:10:43
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but everything was so different there. Like the house was not my house in this reality and everything else. And I was in there, I'm guessing for maybe 15 seconds. It's hard to tell time. And then I came back to this reality and I was like, whoa, what just happened? You know, it was so strange. And then I had another one where I, you know, again, I was me and I was in this restaurant and I was, um,
00:11:08
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talking with some not so great people and I was getting into a bad situation and I was set up by somebody and I was very aware of it. But in that moment, I was living it out. And that lasted, I think, for probably more like a minute or two, maybe a couple minutes. And then I came back into this reality and realized, whoa, I think that was another version of me. So that would be more like a parallel life type of thing.
00:11:36
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I think so, you know, I, you know, we only know so much about all of this. And, you know, when I connect with my guys, trying to figure things out a lot of times, because I don't go into trance. So when I'm connecting, I am more consciously aware of what's happening. And so when I try to connect with my guides about things, I can only really understand deeply what's where there's a foundation for understanding, if that makes sense.
00:12:04
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it's got to come through my filter, my reality, my distortion to come into some sort of understanding. And so as human nature does, when you're given information about anything, it has to fit somewhere in your understanding. Sure. There's a lot more to it than I think any of us really realize. But I'm always open to understanding and I love these conversations because it just blows my mind, you know, this reality that we're in, it's not the only thing happening.
00:12:34
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You know, we have all these dimensional spaces that are like, you know, we have like different realms. You know, some people see fairies or, you know, more like nature beings and things like that. And then you might have like dragons and, you know, so there's all these layers of experiences and realities that are all like together. Well, before we go down that rabbit hole, maybe, um, let's circle back to missing 411. Yeah. Um,
00:13:03
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because that caught my attention because David Paulides is a former detective and he's very sort of left brain. And so as he's investigating and like coming to this conclusion or maybe not necessarily giving it the conclusion but presenting some facts about things that help you get there. What were maybe some of the cases or the things that you saw
00:13:32
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that caught your attention in regards to his work with missing 411. One of the things that I remember seeing, and it's been a while since I've looked at his work, but there was one case in particular, I think it was a little boy, if I remember right, where he was literally standing right behind his parents. They turned around for a second and turned their back on him for literally a second, turned back around, he was gone, nowhere to be found, just could not be found. And
00:14:01
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How does that happen? There's no people. There's no animals. There's no logical
Portals and Missing Persons Theories
00:14:07
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explanation for how this child disappeared. What happened? So of course my mind goes crazy knowing that things aren't always what they seem. I've always wondered, could there have been a portal that opened where he was taken?
00:14:22
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or maybe there was a beam from above from an alien ship that pulled them up and out. I don't know, you know, but it's so fascinating to think about and to also realize that, you know, it isn't what it seems. I think what is amazing is how many of these cases exist. Oh, so true. There was one,
00:14:50
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I'm not even sure it was in the movie about the possible UFO connections. It was where a guy was hiking with his friend in Mount Shasta in California. And I think he even has like a photo of his buddy and you could see these footprints going up and then something happens either. I don't know if he changes the film, the camera or something. He looks back and his friend is Scott. And there's no footprints.
00:15:21
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Where could he possibly have gone? It doesn't make any sense. So you would say, you know, you go through your, in your head, like, well, did he kill him? You know, or like, is there something more nefarious? Like what would be a logical explanation for something like that? And, uh, you're kind of left with, he's just disappeared. Like it is like he just went through a portal and came out somewhere else.
00:15:49
Speaker
And he's not there anymore. I can't remember. I think I might've heard it once from David Wilcock and something that he was talking about, but I remember hearing this was years ago about there being portals.
00:16:08
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to the fairy realm and that people could enter and then also come back. And I can't remember everything he was saying about it, but I just remember thinking like, oh, that doesn't sound good. Like, but it would be like a really long time that they were gone and it would only feel like minutes to them or something like that. But so sometimes I think when people disappear, it's like. I don't know. I remember the first time I went to Sedona, I was going there for a retreat and
00:16:38
Speaker
The friend I was going with had actually reached out to some of the local Native Americans to try to help us get like a really authentic experience there, right? And this was early on. This was probably maybe 13 years ago for me. And she connected with this one guy who said that he could help us enter into a portal, but there's no guarantee that we would come back. And I was like, well, maybe I'm not quite so ready for that.
00:17:07
Speaker
But it makes me wonder, you know, I really don't think that that was some sort of fake lore, you know, or something that's untrue. I really do think that this guy who was very authentic knew what he was talking about and knew a lot more about these experiences than we do. I mean, that stuff has existed forever. If you're curious, you can learn more about, golly, like the fake,
00:17:37
Speaker
in Ireland and Scotland, that kind of stuff. For sure. Lots of stuff there. One of the cases that I looked at before this episode was the case of, oh god, what's the guy's name? Carl.
00:18:10
Speaker
What it's the case in 1974. It's one of the Carl Higdon. Okay, and So he's elk hunting. He's in I think Wyoming and he sees three elk and he lines up his shot and he goes to take the shot and he
00:18:33
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Says time seemingly stops.
Alien Abductions and Miraculous Events
00:18:36
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So he fires his gun. He sees the bullet come out in slow motion. It hits something and just falls down. It doesn't go to the elk. And then there's some kind of cloaked spaceship or something that's protecting the elk. And then a being human like being comes out and talks to him.
00:19:03
Speaker
And he goes, throws him a packet of pills and he says, take these. And so he does. The alien tells him to take. Yeah. I think he said it was like human-like or humanoid. So it was a human. Okay. I'm not sure. So, but the guy, this is a famous case of me. He was investigated heavily for this claim. He takes it and.
00:19:32
Speaker
He wakes up and he's on the spaceship with these three elk that he was trying to hunt. He essentially gets abducted and then he recounts his experience. I'm not sure exactly what happens, but he comes back and he's like this weird thing happened and he gets polygraphed like three times by the police. He gets, um, Oh God, an evaluation by like the,
00:20:00
Speaker
psychologists at the University of Wyoming, and they're all like, this guy, something happened. And there was physical evidence, right? So we had this bullet that had hit this spaceship or whatever, and all this other stuff. And this probably sounds, I mean, obviously fantastic. I highly recommend you watch the movie in the story. So David Paulides, I guess I'd interviewed him, I think he's since
00:20:29
Speaker
passed away, this happened in 1974. But it's just this amazing story of, you know, this craft and these beings that are like studying him and the elk, like these animals, like it was clearly some kind of like a research scientific, like study. Now what that was, who knows, you know, I know there's thoughts in the, you know, UFO world that these
00:20:59
Speaker
Oh, I don't know if it's potentially the Zatus, the Greys. But if it's human, and if they're talking about taking pills, that means it's probably a human working with them at the very least, or it could be some sort of like space, secret space program or something, you know? So it gets pretty wild. So the guy had tuberculosis and he had tuberculosis scars. And after he had taken these pills and this thing happened,
00:21:29
Speaker
they were completely gone. Wow. And that doesn't happen. So he had these health things that were healed so that there was this healing involved in it as well. Wow. I know that story. That's amazing. It's in the movie. Yeah. Missing four and one the UFO connection. I will watch that. It's right up my alley. Yeah. Well, that's
00:21:57
Speaker
Some of those cases like that one in particular are interesting because there's evidence this guy tells the story and it's heavily investigated. So there's lots of firsthand accounts of what that was like or the medical stuff. I mean, the guy got healed miraculously. He was examined by medical doctors. There's a medical record, right? So it just adds to the
00:22:28
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claim anyway. Wow. I know when you know I talked about Raymond Grace a few times when I was taking his class, he had a good friend named Jeff, I think his name was that got up and spoke. And he talks about energy and just when you're really saying you're going to be at the right place at the right time and really affirming that belief system so that you're always in the right place at the right time. And
00:22:55
Speaker
He told this one story, and it's happened to him a few times, but this one story, he was actually traveling to Raymond's house and he was going to, I think, be meeting somebody there. And I think if I remember right, the trip should have taken, I think he said, about eight hours or so. And he only had like three or four hours to get there on time because he was leaving late. And his intention was he was going to arrive on time, but that didn't make any sense.
00:23:24
Speaker
And intuitively, you would think, okay, I got to take all highways if I can get there as quickly as possible. You think logically, that's what you would think. But intuitively, he was getting the hit that he needed to take back roads. And he was like, well, that's going to take even longer, but okay. So he went.
00:23:42
Speaker
he noticed that suddenly there was like this older car and there was a woman who was wearing something that looked a lot older and she was carrying strange bags out of her trunk which it just looked very strange to him but he was like oh okay whatever
00:23:57
Speaker
And then before he knew it, he got to Raymond's house with minutes to spare. Like somehow he got there in three hours instead of eight. And he does not know how that happened. But like he thinks that maybe he went through some sort of like an interesting portal or went through time and came back out through a different, like some sort of weird time portal and they got there on time. So, but in order to get through that portal, he had to go the back roads.
00:24:25
Speaker
is what he was saying. So it's just kind of like, there's so much we don't understand. And that the idea of time seems to be an aspect of this idea of portals where people, you know, it's like they think it takes longer than does or they're gone longer than they realized and they truly were or, or vice versa, you know, and just time seems to be a thing with all of this. Just like we're seeing that time slowed down.
00:24:54
Speaker
The time stuff can be weird. Yeah. You know, I know in some of the, uh, sort of near death stuff that I've experienced where time seemingly stops or slows. That's an experience that it's just super strange. Right. There is, I can't remember some scientific explanation for some of that stuff, but, um, I mean,
00:25:24
Speaker
time bending or like time is an illusion, right? Like it exists for our learning purposes, I think on this planet, but it's not a real thing. Um, I can't remember who I was watching what they were talking about how impressed spirit was that we invented clocks to measure something that doesn't exist so precisely. That's so funny. The precision of clocks that, that measured that.
00:25:55
Speaker
Huh. And aid with navigation and everything else. But, um, time is super fascinating, right? Like you talk about like, um, performance and flow states where lots or large portions of time can feel like nothing at all. It's the blink of an eye. I feel like every year is like that right now. Yeah. Right. It does feel like it's, it feels like it's going quicker, but.
00:26:24
Speaker
Does it seem exponentially quicker now? It does to me. I don't know. I feel like I blink in the sand of the week. I'm like, what just happened? What did I do this week? I don't even know. And I'm trying to be present with it, but it's just going so fast. Well, a lot of abduction cases too, there's missing time, right? Like the, what was the first one? Like Benny and Barney Hill or?
00:26:55
Speaker
Betty and Barniel. That's a common feature where they're gone, come back, several hours have passed and it seems like it's the next second. I want to go back to missing 411. So I know some of the people have been found and some weren't. With the ones that have been found, what are some of the strangest things that he talks about
00:27:25
Speaker
with like how they're found or, you know, what are some of the things that you've heard with all of that? I am not as familiar with the ones where they have found people, like they went missing and they were found.
Reappearing Objects and People
00:27:41
Speaker
I know there's a lot of like you're in their back or shoes or like, oh, gun, right? Like it's a hunter that are,
00:27:55
Speaker
found that are like untouched. Or, okay, here's one that it's wild. They, you know, sometimes with these searches, there's lots of people, technology. Uh, he was just talking about, you know, someone potentially drowned in the river. They have, you know, side, um, sonars going in the rivers to find these bodies. Like there's drones now that can cover,
00:28:23
Speaker
All kinds of distances, right? In addition to more traditional helicopters and things. But one of the ones that I remember is they had searched this area extensively and found nothing. And then maybe a year later saw these things. They were found untouched. Like, where the heck did that come from?
00:28:51
Speaker
Because it doesn't make any sense. It defies logic. Those are the things that I could recall. Yeah, I just remember watching an interview with him where he was talking about why he started getting into all this, because there were some missing persons in a state park. Or maybe it was a national park, I can't remember. But one of the parks, there were missing people.
00:29:17
Speaker
they were very strange occurrences and there were no explanations and even the the park rangers knew there was something going on and If I remember right, I don't even think they really wanted to talk about it because it was just so strange but so he started getting involved and was was looking into these things and he was verifying that it's just so odd the things that are going on and how these things are happening that there's clearly a
00:29:44
Speaker
something. Now, of course, like it makes your mind think, you know, OK, maybe it's like, you know, I like start thinking about Bigfoot. I start thinking of aliens. I start thinking of portals, you know, like there's so many different strange possibilities that, you know, have been thought about with all of this. What are some of your thoughts? What do you think it is? Do you think it's and maybe they're all different. Who knows? But what do you think from your experience could be happening?
00:30:14
Speaker
with some of these abductions? Well, Mount Shasta is interesting to me because that's, there's a lot of mythology, if you want to call it that, stories about, you know, the civilization of Telos that's like currently there. There's all kinds of UFO sightings there. People have had all kinds of experiences missing people, like
00:30:43
Speaker
Did they go into that mountain and are they just living happily there? Like who knows? I don't, I don't know. It's been a few minutes and on our end it's like been a hundred years. I remember I watched a movie one time and I'm trying to remember what it was called, but it was all about they entered in through some sort of portal and in the portal they were experiencing time just like we do here.
00:31:11
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But on the outside of the portal where they actually entered from is like every second was another year. And so it just kept speeding up and speeding up. And they just kept losing days. And when they finally came out, it was way beyond the time frame and the Earth was ruined. It was like there was no real inhabitation of Earth anymore. So they got saved by aliens.
00:31:37
Speaker
But it was a really neat show, though. It was fun to watch. But the realization of the whole timepiece is just so fascinating to me. I don't know. I think there's something to it. So one theory is that the Civilization Telos at Mount Shasta is connected to the origins or the civilization of Lemuria.
00:32:07
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one of the more advanced civilizations that existed prior to Atlantis. So, you know, I think Netflix did the Graham Hancock special was a year ago, maybe, you know, where he basically they go in the Pacific in these different areas and they kind of discover all these temples or
00:32:35
Speaker
monoliths and all these other things that supposedly couldn't have existed that do exist and don't fit in with sort of modern-day archaeology's narrative.
Zetas and DNA Preservation Theory
00:32:48
Speaker
Right. So there's that in the, from a ufology standpoint,
00:32:58
Speaker
Well, maybe not Ufology. I don't know what realm this is anymore, but the Zetas or the Greys are a version of us. So where we have sort of weeded out emotions and things that we may not have thought were necessary and embraced technology, but in a not healthy way.
00:33:27
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to the point that, um, their DNA started to degrade. So this was like, they were trying to save their race, basically. They had all kinds of cloning technology and things like that. And part of the abductions that happened now are souls that volunteered to give their DNA to help them save their species.
00:33:58
Speaker
So it's a version of us in a different timeline coming back here to save their race. The first time I heard that, I was like, what? I was like, that's just going too far. It's very plausible. I think with everything that we don't really understand and all the crazy experiences and knowing that time and space is more of just a construct. It's not necessarily reality.
00:34:28
Speaker
Why not? Why wouldn't that be something that's happening? Well, you can kind of see how we might get there. Right? Oh, gosh, lately. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that was the future timeline where we all just kind of like really, we just screwed it up. I don't know. But maybe there's a better one now, which comes back to the whole idea of like the multiverse and parallel experiences and
00:34:57
Speaker
Dimensional spaces and things like that, you know, just so crazy. Well, that's, I mean, everything is happening in the moment. Yeah. So, you know, their technology is far beyond us, right? Like our scientific instruments aren't at a level that they could detect certain things, or maybe you have to be at a certain vibration to see certain things. Yeah. Why can I see something and someone else can't?
00:35:26
Speaker
Or, you know, someone else can see spirits and the other person can't, you know, their radio is tuned in or open to a higher frequency, perhaps. Or just a different frequency. Just a different. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, you know, good or bad with that. The Shard has a documentary called First Contact where he
00:35:52
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talks about this. So Bashar is Essasani. Essasani is a hybrid of the Greys, the Zetas. Oh, yeah. I think I remember hearing him talk about that. So they were successful with our help figuring out their DNA and being able to kind of revive themselves in this new, more evolved species, which is more positive. So there's a happy ending.
00:36:24
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I'm sure that doesn't feel so good to the people who were abducted and had nothing but fear. Well, but did they choose that experience at some level? At some level, yeah. Yeah, it's funny, my son, and I'm not sure if I talked about this before, but one of my sons, not my oldest, but my youngest one, he really did feel like he's experienced being abducted and woke up with a mark in his arm that he remembered seeing in his dream.
00:36:52
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definitely had some crazy experiences, but it was more with dracos and like reptilian type beings and, um, the Draco reptilians. Yeah, that's not so fun. They're pretty, pretty nasty. I've come across them a few times, but when he told me about it and he kept it to himself, but when he told me about it, I immediately, as soon as he started telling me about it, I started feeling the energy.
00:37:20
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It's almost like it was directed at me. And so then I started scanning him for any kind of energetic implants, and I found some. And I cleared them from him. And what was interesting is for a while, he was acting like more irritable, more angry. We just kept thinking like, well, you know, he's a young adult, you know, hormones, I don't know. You know, we were just trying to figure it out. And then as soon as I cleared that, all of that
00:37:51
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weird, angry, aggressive kind of energy he had had disappeared.
Personal Alien Abduction Experiences
00:37:58
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It was gone. So whatever they did with him, they clearly did something. And he had had a previous experience, too, where he felt like time disappeared. And he was younger and we can't remember how young he was, but it was bedtime nine o'clock and we put him into bed. And, you know, he remembers looking at the window
00:38:19
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And he used to always look for UFOs out the window. And he remembers seeing one. And then at around midnight or maybe a little after midnight, he comes walking into my bedroom. And I'm like, honey, what are you doing still up? You need to get to bed. And he felt like it had only been a minute. And he very clearly remembered that and was really confused about what time it actually was. And so he really thinks that he got taken.
00:38:48
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and that they've been tracking him. And so I don't know, it's just so crazy, all of it. Well, one of the cases that is featured in Missing 411 is a hunter who, he was a guy, so he's not just like a, you know, hobby hunter, he's an expert at crack. And
00:39:12
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He went into a place where he had been many times and disappeared, and there's no trace. And in the course of the investigation, David Coletti's asked his girlfriend, did he ever say anything strange happened out in the woods? And sure enough, she's like, what do you mean, strange? He's like, just anything strange. And she goes, you know, a few months ago, he talked about
00:39:43
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He was going into the woods and he saw this UFO like following him, this, this light. And he told her about it. And it wasn't too long after that, that he just disappeared without a trace. So it's interesting. Now there is, I know when I say Drake,
00:40:11
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Billions, you feel a certain type of way about that. But there are positive Draco resilience. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. These are not, they were not good. I'm not positive at all. Yeah. I could tell by the energy. It really was not hopeful. It was not good. Yeah. Have you ever come across Rob Gautier? No. Does that name mean anything? I love this because you and I follow different people. And so it's like this beautiful melding of information. I love this.
00:40:40
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So in Sedona this weekend, he will be there with like, Reuben Langdon, Maureen St. Germain, Linda Moulton Howe, who's done a lot of investigations with, if you've seen Agent Aliens, you've probably seen her. She has a book and a documentary on like Antarctica and UFO stuff there. There's some
00:41:09
Speaker
crazy stuff going on in Antarctica. But anyway, they're all getting together in Sedona this weekend. But Rob Gathier channels two Draco Reptilians, I think. One is Treb, and the other is Aradief. Aradief, I think. But he's a very fascinating person in Channel. He's a very interesting story. He's been on
00:41:38
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Reuben Langdon's show interview with extra dimensionals. But he, yeah, these Draco's that he channels are fascinating. Yeah, I don't know. I know they exist. My guides have told me positive ones exist. I've not ever experienced positive ones that I'm aware of. I tend to steer clear if I can help it.
00:42:07
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Well, you need to listen to Rob Gathier to cleanse your palate. Cleanse my palate, yeah. And that's funny because I literally taste the energy. When anything that's detrimental or harmful comes around, I can taste it. So, yeah, cleanse my palate. Because we've talked about remote viewing in the CIA, Rob Gathier, how he sort of became a channel, he started doing the gateway process.
00:42:38
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He was doing the meditation and he, uh, overcame a, uh, uh, serious addiction issues and got sober and started meditating a lot and did that, uh, those binaural beads from Hemi sync and then opened up and became a channel. So a lot of times, you know, people like that.
00:43:04
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or who have gifts have gone through some type of trauma near death type of stuff. And then their consciousness opens up and they tune into the cosmic radio. There's a lot to tune into out there. Yeah. So to what channeling? Well, they're all meeting in Sedona. So there's going to be some interesting things there.
00:43:31
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Uh, so if anyone is in Sedona or going out there, uh, that would probably be a very fascinating group of people to come across. Um, but yeah, they're all, I don't know if the community is growing or more people are just talking about their experiences.
UFO Sightings and Telepathic Interactions
00:43:51
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Obviously in Sedona, it's one of those places that they supposedly, you know, the veil is thinner there. Um.
00:43:59
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And if you're thinking about, you know, spaceships and other things in plain sight, that's what place they might be. They are definitely there. Say more. What did you see? Yeah, I went there with, I ran a retreat and forget how many of us were there, maybe 12 of us. And we went to, I think it was called Schneebly.
00:44:27
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It's like a dirt road going up a hill and you're basically overlooking Sedona. And we got there and I had my, you know, everything that you do, you know, with a laser pen and, you know, we were in meditative state, we called in love and we started seeing them. And there was a bunch of them up there that night. And I don't know if they were all ours or all
00:44:56
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someone else, you know, I don't know where they were from or what they were doing, but we could tell they were there. And so I just took my laser when I knew it was safe and nobody was going to be riding around. I just kind of circled their ship. And then they would move with lights off like they didn't want us to see it, but you can see them move. And then they would stop and I would do it again.
00:45:23
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And then they would move in a different way. And then they just, literally, you could see it move away. They didn't want us to see it. And then there were other ones where we were just like, all right, telepathically, if you can hear us and understand us, shine your light. And they did. They blasted their light, and then they turned it off again. And then you could see them move, and then they blast their light and turn it off again. It was fascinating. I don't know how many were up there, but there were a bunch.
00:45:54
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And I don't know if they were all ours, but whoever it was in that one specifically, they were telepathically communicating with us. And it didn't feel bad. It didn't feel negative. To be clear, what Jen says, we're not sure if it's otherworldly, extra dimensional, or domestic. Right. We don't know. There is
00:46:22
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Well, I mean, everyone will know Area 51 or S4 like these other, you know, Locky, Martin, Skunk Works and all these other things that have these super advanced technology that is far beyond what people would realize, right? Like it's perhaps from other people, other beings. Someone we both know, Whitney,
00:46:53
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If I could, she has some amazing footage of UFOs in Sedona. Yeah, that was from that trip. Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh my gosh. She showed that to me. Unbelievable. Yeah, there was a lot going on that night. We went to different locations each night and
00:47:15
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One of the locations, we saw some things that we felt like maybe, you know, it looked like it wasn't a satellite and it wasn't plane. It was something interesting, but it wasn't as apparent as the first night because the snubbly, I think it's snubbly road or whatever, but that was really apparent. I mean, it was so in your face. You can't deny this is what's happening. And then we went to another location. What's that?
00:47:43
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It was, it's so clear like her, what she, the object she captured was the one or two. Yeah. The third night we were going to try to communicate again and it was a clear enough night. Like it cleared up and we get out there and as soon as we get out there, it was like immediately it all clouded over and then we couldn't see as much. So yeah, it was.
00:48:10
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It was almost like we were like, is this happening on purpose? They don't want us to see them tonight. They're probably tired of us. Oh, those people again. But we had a great time. We, we, um, you know, they say, you know, it is really important. I agree. It is really important to be in a high loving space. Uh, cause there's so many different types of beings out there and you want to connect to the ones that are, are really loving and high vibrational. And, um,
00:48:39
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the loving, high vibrational ones won't even interact if you're not in that space. Yeah. But you know, if you're not in that space and you're trying to reach out and something does reach out and communicate or show itself, it may not necessarily be high vibrational. Yeah. Well, it was just fascinating with Whitney's video. I mean, she's like talking to it and it's like reacting. Yeah. It's super cool.
00:49:09
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I didn't know you were on that trip with her. Yeah, I was running that trip. Yeah. That's fantastic. Well, let me know if you go back. Yeah. And actually Mount Shasta is on my list. I would love to do that. Yeah. Sedona is always amazing too. I have a group in California, actually, and I'll be talking to you very shortly, but they go look for UFOs there.
00:49:36
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And they've seen a lot of people have just seen stuff there, which is fascinating. And also one of the guys in my group has a Bigfoot story, which I feel like there's a lot in California. I love that. Yeah. He said he didn't see it. He was walking, can't remember the name of the
00:50:05
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for sort of the mountain range, but he was walking was with his dog and all of a sudden he, um, his dog, like the hair stood up on the dog and the back, you know, the dog went to fight mode, which was kind of unusual, but he said this dog was sort of aggressive in that way. And, uh, like it was trying to protect him.
00:50:32
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And his dog wanted to jump over on this other side of the like cliff, kind of like he couldn't see anything.
Bigfoot and Mysterious Forest Phenomena
00:50:38
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And then all of a sudden he heard a knock. Like on a tree, like knocking is one of the phenomenon that you'll, you'll hear about sometimes. And he said, whatever hit or made that knock on the tree in the middle of the forest where no one else was, was big. And.
00:51:00
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He was like, this guy is one of the most incredible people I know. He's not someone that scares easily. But he was like, you know, he just you read the tea leaves and you're like, okay, I'm out of here. I'm gonna walk back and he began to walk back a few miles to his car, where he had parked. And he said he could hear
00:51:27
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you know, this knocking as he was going back to his car. Like it was like letting him know, like, keep going. Like, yeah, you're going to the right direction. So he never saw it, but he was like, yep, that's Bigfoot. Ruben Langdon, who has the show interview with extra dimensionals, this big bear, which is, uh,
00:51:57
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out in California. And he has had sightings and knocking with Bigfoot too, which was interesting. So yeah, that that is really fascinating to me. I love all that. I've never had a Bigfoot experience personally, but I'm okay not having one. I'm happy to hear people talk about their stories. Yeah, yeah. I have a
00:52:25
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client who she told me about this and I don't want to go too into it because it's a very personal thing but she felt like her son had seen one and he's not even necessarily a believer in any of this and but afterwards she asked me in a session she was like did this happen and I was like oh I think he saw something and then they started having weird experiences in their house and I
00:52:53
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I remember, right, what I tuned into was it felt almost like a watcher of sorts, not like a watcher watcher, like you tend to hear of when someone says it's a watcher, but almost like just checking in to see who these people were that saw that thing. That's how it felt. And it didn't feel necessarily nefarious. But from what I remember, it just kind of felt like. Who are these people and how could they see that? That's how it felt.
00:53:23
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And so I think that's the closest thing to a Bigfoot experience I've ever gotten to was I had a client who thinks they saw something like that. So I don't know what they saw, but it definitely felt like it was something they weren't supposed to see. I can't remember where I heard it, but it said that Bigfoot has a sense of humor. You know, it sort of knows when it could be seen and not and can mess with people. It sort of has
00:53:53
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that type of personality which is just me saying that i heard that but yeah yeah i've heard everyone say that you know sometimes they're actually more friendly and sometimes they're really not you know so i don't know yeah i'm just kind of like okay well anything more you want to add about portals or missing 411 or
00:54:22
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No, and I know a lot of this was just us chit-chatting about really fun topics, but I think if anybody's interested, they should really research Missing 411 and David Pilates and really just look into these things, research some of the different UFO stories out there. There are a lot of UFO stories out there and things that people have come forth and talked about, really credible witnesses and people who've experienced things.
00:54:48
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You know, some of it's probably false, but a lot of it I think is true. And it's just, I think it's important to open our minds and our wisdom and understand there's so much more to all of this that our regular physical 3D reality can't explain. So. Yeah. There's a lot that we don't know.
00:55:12
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or we've been misled about and I think a lot of this stuff is going to come out and it's going to be super interesting. I know we got to wrap up, but I found the old Unsolved Mysteries series on Amazon Prime. You can watch it for free and watch the Roswell episode. It's one of the first episodes in the first season of that.
00:55:42
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I relearned all the stuff that I did not know and just how the truth about things was twisted and manipulated. And it's fascinating because this is what that show was in maybe the late eighties. So a lot of these people were still alive who were being interviewed that were there.
00:56:04
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And so you got to see this again, because, you know, nowadays it's like, well, this person said this or this account, and it, you know, so it was interesting to go back in time and see that. So it's there if anyone wants to watch it. Yeah. Good stuff out there. For sure. All right. Well, Jen, thank you very much for your insights and wisdom with these topics. You too. This was fun. Thank you all for listening. Till next time.
00:56:32
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