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Welcome to the Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jenn! This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing and expansion along the way. Join us as we bravely explore topics of metaphysics, spirituality, healing, mindfulness, and ascension. We will be sharing our experiences and wisdom, as well as diving deeply into various topics so that you can better understand your own journey. Whether you are just starting out or have been on the spiritual path for many years, this show is a space for you to learn, grow, and be inspired.

In this episode Jim and Jenn talk about being in balance while taking care of the mind, the body and the spiritual sides of us. We delve into toxins, healing, mindset and so much more!

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Introduction to Spiritual Journeys

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Welcome to the Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing, wisdom, and consciousness expansion experienced along the way. Welcome back to another Brave New Episode of Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. Welcome back. Yeah. Hi. How are you doing?

Finding Calm Amid Chaos with Meditation

00:00:24
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I am doing better. I feel like I'm becoming more uncomfortable with uncomfortable things, I suppose.
00:00:31
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Yeah. Yeah. What a time, huh? I always tell clients, you know, with, with meditation and kind of tapping into that space. Um, there's two visualizations that I often will use. One is to, you know, you have the hurricane going on around you. The breath can allow you to get into that eye of the storm where everything's still happening, but you were in a more calm state.
00:01:00
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And the other is like the ocean, right? You have this, perhaps in a storm in the middle of the ocean, the waves are crashing, you know, however many hundreds of feet. And yet if you go below far enough, you know, maybe 40 meters or so, it's nice and calm. So it's like, those are two things I try to visualize when the chaos is surrounding me. Yeah, that's really helpful.
00:01:29
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Yeah, I love that. If you can get there, but you got to breathe. Yeah. Well, I think.

Recognizing Value in Challenges

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As long as we're realizing whatever is happening around us, what it's trying to show us, and we can see the value in it, even if it seems horrible, when we can see the value of it, it takes some of that power away for it to have such a detrimental effect as well. And so I think awareness
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of the process that you're in is important.

Balancing Spiritual and Physical Pursuits

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Well, bringing awareness today to mind, body and spirit, which was something that you said was on your mind talking with Jacob and themes around detoxing and perhaps healing. Yeah, yeah, taking care of the body. You know, I think a lot of times
00:02:24
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on the spiritual journey, we get so hyper focused on that spiritual journey because it's a brand new door that's opening up that maybe we never realized was even there. And there's so much to discover that we have never been taught before.
00:02:39
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Even if we've been religious throughout our lives, there's still this emptiness that is now suddenly getting filled. And we end up sometimes neglecting the rest of our lives because we're so down that spiritual rabbit hole. And so we were just having a conversation around the idea of really caring for the body. But that's mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, energetic.
00:03:03
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you are a mind body spirit complex. And so what we're trying to do is to get you balanced and to get you thriving in as many ways as possible, because we're here in this physical body to evolve. We're not here to hide from the evolvement or to get locked into one way of being where we're here to constantly evolve and become better. So that was just an interesting conversation that we had. And I thought it would be fun to talk about today.

Understanding Through Body Sensations

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Well, it's very interesting because you don't know this, I don't think, but I posted this yesterday on my social media, Instagram, at mindfulbmore. I shared this quote, the only way to know a person or anything else in the so-called external world is through feeling your body, the whole cosmos,
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is experienced as sensations in the body. And that's from something called living this moment, sutras for instant enlightenment, which I apparently misspelled. But may I embrace my humanness. I love that. I love that.

Energy Healing and Emotional Connection

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I think
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The work that I do with energy healing, I often will like to be at the person's feet because as they're releasing, stuff is coming out and I will have them intend for energies to leave down through their feet while I'm pulling things out. So traumas and just old thought patterns or sometimes even parasitic energies and things like that, we're moving it out of their bodies. And
00:04:51
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There are maybe 10% of the people I work on can't feel what's happening in their body. You might say, OK, think about this experience that you had. Where do you feel that anxiety? And they have no idea. They're not at all connected with their body. Yeah, it's so interesting. And that makes it more difficult for me to move that energy.
00:05:13
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because I find that when the client is focused on a specific energy, let's say it's an anxiety and you're feeling it in your chest, okay, that's an energy. And so I'll have them focus on that and define it, okay, there's this energy here, it's related to that trigger or that trauma. And you know what, I'm done with this now and I'm telling it to leave and go down my legs. And usually they can feel it lessen here
00:05:41
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or completely disappear, and then they'll feel a heaviness or a weird tingling going down their legs. It works. And I'm also pulling it. So it's got a push and a pull making it go a certain direction when they can't feel that energy or they're not tuned in or tapped into their own body. It's a lot harder to move. So.

Mind-Body-Spirit Balance

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It also I like it because I like doing it this way because it gets them to understand
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the connection to their thoughts and emotions in their body. We treat this body like it's just this thing. It's this meat suit that we're walking around in. And it's so much more than that. This is our avatar. It's the only thing that we have to be present in this 3D experience.
00:06:28
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And we often just take it for granted. So I like coming into the idea of how do you really take care of your body? And what is it that your body needs because you're an individual? And then as a mind-body-spirit complex, which is what they call it in the law of one, which we've referenced many times, you're this mind-body-spirit complex. You're not just a spirit. You're not just a body. You're not just a mind. You're all these things interwoven together that need to function somehow.
00:06:58
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And if you are not pruning your thoughts and cultivating a more positive way of being and thinking, if you're not healing your old traumas, if you're not trying to feed your human body what it needs, and some people might need more vegetables, some people need more fats and proteins, whatever it is, but honoring your body and where it's at and what it needs, if you're not doing these things or you're overloaded with toxins, physical toxins,
00:07:27
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You know, you're in a relationship that's toxic. It all creates this burden in your whole experience. And so it's just interesting to think about, you know, what are the things that we can prune out of our lives that maybe aren't serving us? You know, what are the weeds? What are the things that maybe, you know, are actually nurturing us? Where can we water more or, you know, get more nutrients to or more sunlight? Right.

Evolving Belief Systems and Growth

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I can remember I had a boss used to say, Jimbo,
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You got to cut the dead weight, man. You got to cut the dead weight with the use of the word pruning. But however you come to it, you know, like, yeah, evolving, letting belief systems, certain structures die or letting them go. Emotions. Yeah. To allow for healing.
00:08:20
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Well, and I think that's important to the idea of old belief systems and structures, the way that we've made it to where we're at so far. It's served us at a time, but it doesn't mean it's necessarily accurate. It doesn't mean it's the full expression of what we're meant to be. There's more for us to understand. There is no single person on this planet who does not have more evolving to do.
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We are all evolving all the time. Some of us are a little further down the path and others of us, but we're all still evolving. Nobody's perfect. It doesn't matter if it's the body, the mind, whatever it is, there's always more evolving to do.
00:09:01
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Um, so when we're in this journey of really trying to, you know, like that book, you know, with Joe Dispenza, he calls it, you know, superhuman, right?

Pursuing Passion Against Societal Norms

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We're, we're trying to become more superhuman. We're trying to have this amazing spiritual experience, but if your body is really in bad shape, you're not going to have that amazing spiritual journey, right? Well,
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Yeah, I mean, in the world I work in too, I mean, with self-limiting beliefs, I was just talking to a younger client who's tremendously talented and he was making fun of it, but he was like, you know, everyone's telling me I got to get this 40 hour a week job. And I'm like, well, some people believe that.
00:09:55
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I'm like, but you have met all these talented people in your world that they do their own thing. They have literally created their own reality. But if they listen to the people around them, they tell them, you know, you have to work a 40 hour a week job and have a boss and this and that. And that's all you know. Like that's what you're going to accept as your reality. You're not looking beyond that.
00:10:24
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You know, and then that's interesting too because, you know, doing the work that we do, we come across so many people in so many circumstances and like there's healthy ways to look at things and then there's blind ways to look at things, you know, like the toxic positive kind of idea, you know, where
00:10:41
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I don't know what this makes you want to throw up. Yeah. I know some of my clients like love attraction. You have somebody who's maybe a poet. I'm thinking something artistic because they tend to be the ones who don't typically have 40 hour a week jobs, right? Um, at least one of the different types of jobs you can have or the types of careers, um, or even better word is calling a better calling. Um, so if somebody's maybe an artist or they're, they, they write poetry.
00:11:07
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and they don't have the standard, or they're not called to do the standard 40 hour a week or whatever job, it doesn't mean that they can just sit back and do nothing either, and maybe put together a couple poems and expect that to be fulfilling for all their needs, right? So there has to be some sort of effort. You can't be lost in the singularity of I'm a poet,
00:11:35
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without realizing, okay, but you might be a poet, but then you also have a car payment and rent payment. You know, you have all these other aspects to life where you still need to thrive at, because if you're a poet and you're homeless, are you really gonna thrive as a poet? Right? So it's like this idea of balance where, okay, you're a poet, that's your calling. Okay, so what are you gonna do about it?

Balancing Passion and Practicality

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Are you just going to lay there and write a couple poems and then die in squander, you know, I mean, or are you actually going to or I was squander squalor. I don't know why I said squander. But, you know, so you're you're this poet and you've got this job to do and you've got this calling by the universe, this amazing gift to bring forth something beautiful.
00:12:20
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are you going to just let it rot or be the death of you basically because you're not taking care of everything else? Same thing I see in the spiritual side of things, we get so lost in the spiritual process, which is a very important process that we neglect other things sometimes and the idea of balance. If we're overwatering one thing and ignoring something else, we can't expect that to grow too.
00:12:48
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Yeah, yeah, no, that disclaimer, right? Like, man, have I been there? I'm going to meditate and pray and get what I need and it's going to happen without taking the action and like actually integrating the lessons into life and not neglecting the body. You know, like your spirit is in the body and your mind is a part of that. Right. Right. Your ego.
00:13:18
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No, it's just so fascinating how we put these limitations on ourselves and kind of you talked about being superhuman, but just what is possible, right? You know, the person that I was talking with, there is a young woman who is from Maryland, of all places, and created a famous cartoon.
00:13:43
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So her name is Vivian Medrano. And so one of the, and she now has a studio in Hollywood, right? Like from Urbana, Maryland. Oh, wow. Give me a break, right? But like that, that whole like real life examples of people who are like, no school counselor was going to be like, Hey, you know,

Overcoming Societal Expectations

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you should do this. This is a safe path.
00:14:06
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But if you can create that in your mind, like, this is what I want to do. Like, I'm actually passionate about it, right? Like even going back to Bashar's formula, like following your excitement, actually taking action on it. Because if you don't, that's also a choice. That is true. But that idea that you do have to take care of things and take action and be active with your health and paying attention to your thoughts, your belief structures.
00:14:34
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evolving along with those things. When coming back to the idea of the poet, so if that poet has not done the mental work of, you know, healing traumas and woundings or limiting beliefs and thought patterns and things and working with someone like you, Jim, if they have not done that,
00:14:51
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Their poetry is probably going to be pretty dark, even if they do get it out there. And it's not going to be uplifting or might not resonate with people. But beyond that, I think a lot of times we get callings to do things that are not standard, you know, way most people do them, like becoming a healer or a poet or something like that.
00:15:16
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If you are not healing through that process and really looking at yourself and trying to become a better version of you, what I find is a lot of times you're not going to get anywhere. You're not going to really, because you're not trying to evolve, it's almost like the universe puts
00:15:35
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this ceiling on you so you can't move past it because there's something that you really need to understand before you can up level. And so I think that's why it's important to look at all different aspects of your being. You know, are you taking care of your body? And you know, it's so interrelated. So if you're not taking care of your body,
00:15:57
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your thought processes are going to be off, or you won't have the energy or the motivation to do things. And then if you don't have the correct thought process or the right energy, then you're not going to put forth what you really need to put forth with your intention around your calling, like if you're a poet or whatever it is that you're doing. And so even your relationships are going to suffer. So it's like this entire system, it's all interconnected.
00:16:26
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So what I've found, I just had someone reach out to me the other day and they were like, listen, I'm a young guy. I work very hard and very successful. I have all of these health issues. And I'm curious, what is your perspective on the mind-body connection? And I'm like, well, it's everything. Yeah.
00:16:52
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It's everything, right? Like you're going to go to a doctor and you're in a chronic pain and all these things and they'll treat these symptoms. But if you don't resolve them internally in some somehow or find healing somehow or detox, whatever needs to be detox, these things will persist.
00:17:13
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So how do you, I mean, I'm sure that's kind of how people come to you know, in searching for ways to heal from this.

Impact of Health on Spiritual Calling

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Yeah, I mean, I get all kinds of different people. Some people are struggling emotionally and they want healing around the emotional suffering. Some people, it's more physical. They've got chronic illness or they've been in an accident or something like that and they're looking for ways to heal physically. And some people just, they're on that spiritual journey and they need some guidance and support around that. So it comes to me in all different directions, but I always connect to the body.
00:17:52
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to try to find where the blockages are, even if let's say somebody's got a spiritual calling to become a life coach or something, and they're having a hard time taking off, I will connect with the body and feel into, okay, what is the body processing around this? What do I need to understand? And then I'll go to more spiritual aspects of things. But it could be that they were holding a trauma from when they were in third grade,
00:18:21
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and something happened when they were in front of the class, now they're afraid to stand up in front of people to be who they are. So it's like things like that could happen and they've locked that into their body. So every time consciously they're thinking, yeah, I wanna become this health coach. I'm gonna do group training and do things or whatever. But subconsciously they're like, ooh, no. So it's just about finding
00:18:48
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through that holistic way of viewing your experience here, where are the problems? Where are the blockages? Where are you out of alignment? Where are you not watering or nourishing enough? Or where do you have too many of those toxins? What do we need to pull out? But it's all aspects of your being. You need to do that. You need to prune some things and add in other things and try to come up with this beautiful experience
00:19:16
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But it takes dedication. It takes awareness and effort, right? That's a part you have to actually want to do it and then put forth the effort.
00:19:33
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Now, I would say healing wise, at least my understanding at the moment, is healing the emotions. You have to be aware of them, right? But once you find them, you can start to cleanse your energy, cleanse your body, cleanse your soul.
00:19:54
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Obviously your energy, your chakras are all a part of that. And then symptoms that you are experiencing will begin to resolve sometimes miraculously. Yeah, true.

Physical Detox and Spiritual Well-being

00:20:06
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But what are some of the things that kind of came up with you and Jacob in terms of detoxing that you're finding just in your own work and discoveries?
00:20:18
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Well, we're going through some things in the last few months with physical detox because what I've realized is I've spent most of my adult life focused on how to heal my body. And a lot of it has been around detox fasting and foot baths and really good things trying to help my body function better.
00:20:42
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And that led me down my spiritual journey, really. But that was the foundation of it was I was trying to heal. And recently, we found some other ways to go even deeper into the detox. So we were talking about that. And it's so easy to be pulled off into this idea of we're just these spiritual
00:21:12
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powerhouses and we're here if we wanted it, so shall it be, that can be true. But usually there's action that has to take place. So we've been talking a lot recently about the physical body, just because we've been going through some different things and trying to heal that recently.
00:21:31
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It's an ever-evolving journey, and I'm in menopause, and so things have shifted for me. I don't know if you've ever heard that, Jim, but when women get into menopause, suddenly their bodies don't respond the same way. It's been a huge topic at my gym.
00:21:48
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Yeah. Among the, you know, there's a number of physicians and other science, you know, oriented type people, but just, you know, trying to figure out how to best deal with that because it's not settled science on how to really help with that. It's apparently, so I see snippets of the dialogue, but I'm like, Oh my gosh.
00:22:16
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It's a big deal. And I never realized how big it was till I entered into it. Like I was like, nah, I should be okay. Like I take good care of myself. I'm good. Pari-menopause hit and I was like, well, okay. All right. You know, I'm doing okay. I'm keeping my head above water. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. And then full-on menopause hit and I'm like, oh my God. Like what is happening to myself? You know? And like the foods just aren't the same. My body doesn't respond the same way to food. You know?
00:22:45
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where I ache and pain and all the things and even toxins, you know, because as you start losing some of your bone mass and you know, because when the estrogen goes down, other things start happening in your body and
00:22:57
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you can get like aches and pains and different things happening and you're releasing more toxins out of your bones. And so suddenly you're like, wait a minute, I've been spending all this time detoxifying and now I've got this big toxic load again. What's going on? Right. And so that's what I've been personally processing and trying to move through that, which is a whole different challenge than anything I've ever been used to. And, um, you know, my son Jacob, who used to be on the autism spectrum and
00:23:27
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just some of the things he's processing through, like he's always been chronically low in B vitamins. But every time I give him B vitamins, it's almost like a backlash effect. His body just does the opposite of what it's supposed to do. And so even though he's low in B vitamins, I can't give him B vitamins. So my hope was with some of this detox that we've been doing,
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that it will get him to a point where his gut health and his cellular health are good enough where he can absorb and utilize these vitamins correctly. So that's what we were talking about a lot this morning. But when he's low in B vitamins, he needs more sleep because he's not sleeping as well and his body doesn't have as much functional energy basically to do all the different processes and things that he needs to do.
00:24:16
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So he gets really into the whole spirituality of things and he will spend his whole day in what we call planet Jacob processing and spiritually and healing people and doing things. But he's all spiritual all the time. And so we were talking about, okay, but let's also bring some of that energy into taking care of your body. Because if you can take care of your body, you'll need less sleep.
00:24:39
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you'll function better, you'll have more energy, and then you can go do these other things related to your calling and what you're actually meant to be doing, and in a more balanced and well-rounded kind of way.
00:24:50
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And, um, so that was the conversation, you know, so, yeah. So is this like a new technique or new process or just, well, it's actually a special kind of zeolite and it's a totally different topic than I really want to get into here today, but it's, it's a special kind of zeolite that really gets into your lymphatic and your bloodstream to help your body detoxify on a very deep level. I've never seen anything else like it. Um, so that's just something that we're doing and.
00:25:19
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It's a bit of a process, you know, I've been on it since December and I cannot believe the level of toxicity that I'm still finding in my body that I have focused on detoxifying for so many years. It's probably been about, see, I've been in business for coming up on 13, 14.
00:25:39
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14 years since I opened up the business of nourishing journey. But I've been focused on detox before that. So I'd say probably a good maybe 16 years, maybe 17 years of really trying to detoxify on the physical level. And here I am like still really struggling in a deep way.
00:26:02
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from all the things that I thought I should be good with. So it's just an interesting process as I'm understanding more and more and learning more and more and finding more tools to approach it with.
00:26:15
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And then what that's doing for other aspects of my life and how it's bringing things into a different level of balance than I've ever experienced before. Yeah. So it's it's just a fascinating concept, you know, not to make this a physical health podcast, but it all goes so hand in hand. And I think we mentioned previously
00:26:39
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I can't remember which episode it was, but I briefly mentioned that there was this study that was done of people who were incarcerated where they studied certain nutrients to see, was there some sort of a foundational understanding of what these people might be low in? So if they committed murder, did they have certain deficiencies? Or if they committed theft, did they have certain deficiencies? What kinds of diagnoses did they have and things like that?
00:27:08
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And there was a very common thread amongst everything about the nutrients and like sometimes they had too much copper or not enough copper and you know but across the board they were finding these similarities and when they would balance things.
00:27:26
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like old behaviors would get better or, you know, they'd have no desire to harm anybody or what, you know, or harm themselves and their depression would go away.

Nutrition's Role in Mental Health

00:27:36
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And so the nutritional aspect of things, it was fascinating because it changed their behaviors and which can sometimes, you know, like if you have certain, I had a client one time who she was, excuse me, she was, she was suicidal.
00:27:55
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And she asked me for an energy healing session. And my first response was, you need to go see a counselor. Like, I don't want to be responsible for your life right now. You need to go see a counselor. And she was like, Jen, I've been on medications my whole life. I've seen counselors. It never does any good. I'm in this state, and I'm telling you, I'm not going to go take care of things in this minute, but I'm in that state again, and I want some energy healing. And I was like, OK, then come on in.
00:28:25
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So she came in and what I picked up in the session was she needed protein. She was a vegan and I didn't realize she was a vegan, but I was like, I'm, I'm really getting strongly. You need some protein. And she's like, I never eat meat. And I was like, I, you need to go eat some meat. I feel like there's something in there that you're going to get. That's going to really help. She went out and she got it right after our session. She went out and got a burger.
00:28:50
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So I don't know if it was the B12 or certain amino acids or whatever it was, but she got, you know, a beef burger and immediately felt better and no longer was suicidal. So, you know, maybe it was a mixture of the energy healing. Who knows?
00:29:04
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you know, but still these things matter. There's a lot of research being done and thankfully it's being done at Harvard because people tend to just take that as truth even though they shouldn't. But just in terms of like the field of psychiatry or ADHD and children and medication and how a lot of the research being done is going into
00:29:35
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nutrition and what is happening with the foods that we're eating or even if we're eating certain foods that are
00:29:45
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maybe healthy, but we're not getting the same level of nutrition in the food because there's a certain amount of toxicity and a lack of nutrients that are not in our foods. But it's impacting brain health and brain energy, specifically impacting mitochondrial health. So you'll have people being treated for schizophrenia or bipolar depression or ADHD and all these other things.
00:30:14
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And they change their diet and their symptoms resolve. Exactly. And it's wild. Yeah. So there's, you know, obviously, if you're listening to this, do your own research. Brain energy. Oh, it's the guy's name. Dr. Chris Palmer, I believe. There's been a few of them that have studied this and
00:30:35
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Thankfully there's more and more research coming out, but you're definitely seeing a shift. Like they're definitely looking at like that mind body connection and gut health and your body's ability to absorb, absorb, sorry, nutrients. Yeah. Another big thing with that is, you know, a lot of the more sensitive people that have come in, especially kids, um, you know, like with the autism spectrum and ADHD and things like that,
00:31:01
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they are very sensitive to toxins and there was a diet that we had Jacob on and he's improved quite a bit so we don't have to be as strict about it but back when he was like you know in first grade and really throughout most of his childhood we had to be very careful of anything that was high in salicylates which is a type of phenol and
00:31:25
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things like preservatives and food colorings, but even tomatoes and certain apples and almonds, they're all high in salicylates.

Food Sensitivities and Behavior

00:31:38
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And so we have this enzyme that's used to break down salicylates that we eat, but it's also used for other
00:31:45
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throughout our entire bodies, basically, it's used in so many different ways, including brain function. And so what would happen is if some kids get, a lot of kids, when they get these things, let's say like the red food coloring or something, their body suddenly put all of its effort, what minimal stores it has of those enzymes towards breaking down those phenols, the salicylates,
00:32:11
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and then they can't do all the other processes they need to do. And so they end up with like ADD or behavioral issues. I mean, it's crazy. I was at a gathering of friends maybe a few months ago and this was the wildest thing. We were having a discussion on food and somehow it got brought up
00:32:39
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something about I think it's like red dye number 40 or something like this, which is I think banned in Europe, if I'm not mistaken, because it is not good. And at this gathering, someone was handing out red. I think I get trouble Gatorade, I think.
00:33:02
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A red-dyed electrolyte drink. It was like a red, whatever, popular sports drink. And some of the kids, and one of them in particular, they were like, man, he's not acting like he normally does. And he was just off the wall and having all kinds of behaviors. And the mom was involved in the conversation. And she was like, what have you been drinking?
00:33:29
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connects like, oh my gosh, the thing that we're talking about, he just ingested and is now having all these behaviors. And in real time, she was like, oh my God, I've never even thought that there would be something in food that you would buy at pretty much any grocery store that could be potentially harmful to my child. That's crazy. In fact, a lot of things. Jacob to this day can still not do tomatoes and almonds.
00:33:57
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because they're very high in salicylates. And we just generally don't do preservatives and things like that. So we try to always buy foods and things that don't have food colorings or preservatives or almonds or tomatoes, because Jacob will still respond negatively to those. His brain starts misfiring. So we just try to steer clear of that. And I can always tell, because he just can't seem to,
00:34:22
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get it like he's not himself. But when he was younger, it would be a lot of like ADD ADHD kind of behaviors as well. So we always problem is yeah, you can easily get diagnosed with something and being treated for something that it's not even related. It's just a food sensitivity or chemical sensitivity really for a lot of it. But so you can imagine like,
00:34:49
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I used to get so much crap for, I would bring food, especially for Jacob, to parties and things. And the parents would be like. Gaslighting you. Well, yeah, it's almost like it was child abuse. Why don't you just let him have the pizza that the other kids are having? And I'm like, well, because, you know, it creates all these behaviors and I want him to function. I don't want him to be an outcast amongst, I'd rather him
00:35:15
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eat the pizza I'm bringing him because I know it's something he can eat and not have a reaction to and enjoy the experience and still eat good food, then I feel like my child is a troublemaker. I mean, I remember thinking back when he was in kindergarten, I literally said to my sister, I was like, I think Jacob's gonna end up in juvie. And you know, Jacob, Jacob,
00:35:40
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When we took all the junk out of the diet and we realized what that was doing to him, he was just this beautiful, heart wide open, loving soul and everybody, you know, all the teachers loved him. He was their secret favorite student. And because he was such a sweetheart, but before that you would not have thought that because he was always not listening and laughing when you would get in trouble. And like, I was like, Oh my gosh, what kind of monster did I bring to this world?

Managing Behavior Through Diet

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You know? Oh my gosh. It was the chemicals.
00:36:11
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Yeah, Jacob is one of the good guys. He's a very gifted healer and just an old wise soul for sure. But his body is very sensitive. Yeah. And a lot of people who are spiritual are very sensitive. Yeah, I mean, I think he's part of that class. I don't know what you would call them, what, rainbow children or indigo? I've always considered him a crystal child. Crystal?
00:36:40
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Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, that's just the label. Yeah. I mean, he's definitely one of those people that you can tell incarnated to usher in this new better era of sorts. And one more example of this, I used to be heavily involved in the PTA and things like that. So I used to meet with the parents and got to know the kids and things like that. And, uh,
00:37:06
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I had another parent in the community whose child, her daughter, had a behavior, what do they call that? It's a program because the child had, I forget what the name of it was, but the child had behavior issues sometimes. And so they had this whole plan. So it was not like with my son where we had an IEP
00:37:31
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And he had like the special. Like a 504 action plan or something. Yeah. It was like a behavioral action kind of plan thing. And they would get rewards if they, you know, had a certain amount of time with no behavior issues. But she's the sweetest girl at the same time. Like I was just like, how can this girl have those problems? Like I was shocked. And then so I told her, I used to try to educate parents a lot more back then, but I realized most parents didn't want to hear about it. But I was like,
00:38:01
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Does she get a lot of like food coloring and things? And she was like, what do you mean? And so I explained it to her and she was like, whatever. She didn't, I don't think she believed me. But then she went on a family trip. And when she came back, she's like, Jen, I don't understand what happened. My little girl, and they had a family. There was a bunch of kids and two adults and they were in this van driving south.
00:38:29
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And she was like, I don't know. We were just eating lunch. And then all of a sudden, my little girl starts flipping out. We all had to stop the car, pull over, and we all had to literally get out of the car because she was tearing apart the car.
00:38:47
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in this crazed state. And then, so they just had to wait for it to finish. And I think she said it was like 15, 20 minutes and they all got back in and they were like, what just happened? She was like, I don't know, mom. I don't know. Like she could not control it. And so she was like, I don't understand what's going on. I'm really worried about my daughter. I was like, so you said she just ate lunch. What did she eat? She was like, just a baloney sandwich. I'm like, you do realize there's preservatives in baloney. She was like,
00:39:18
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And I think she started putting two and two together and started realizing that it was actually her daughter's reaction to the chemicals that were causing the behavior issue. So the reason why this is important, not to get too far down a rabbit hole of physical health and chemical toxins and behavior, but if you're so sensitive, which a lot of people who are meant to do spiritual careers are,
00:39:43
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If you're so sensitive to something you're eating that it's creating this distortion of this behavioral issue that you're then going to get diagnosed as oppositional, whatever, that's taking you way off track. How can you possibly do what you came here to do if you're so often left field spinning because you're just trying to process these toxins?
00:40:11
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And you're not able to be like fully functional in your body doing what you came to do. Yeah. Not fully integrated or achieving your potential. All of your energy in your body is being spent to processing that thing that it can't deal with. So then you can't put your energy towards the things that are actually important. Yeah.
00:40:34
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So when you have all these people, so for some people watching this, they might know this, they might be like, yes. But for people who don't, one of the things I would say to some of the parents who would question why I did these things, why did Jacob have a special diet? Well, because I want him to thrive. I don't want to throw medication at it and cause more problems. I don't want to have him think he's a bad kid when he's really not.
00:41:02
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I don't want him to have a learning disability if he doesn't need to have one. Maybe it's just the toxins. Maybe the toxins are causing ADD, which means that then he can't learn and communicate well. And so it's like this chain of events happening, but the problem isn't the chain of events, the problem is the toxins. Well, there seems to me to be greater awareness with those types of things, like coming into the collective consciousness. Yes.
00:41:32
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which is obviously the children are gonna benefit the most. Like in the example I told you, I'd heard about red dye or whatever, but to actually see it in real time with somebody who knows their kid very well and to put that together was mind boggling to me. But yeah, but shifting maybe gears a little bit, detoxing,
00:42:02
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I don't

Emotional Healing Through Meditation

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know. The word transmutation is coming up for me. Yes. But I was mentioning, well, you brought up Avatar, the guy who has a podcast, Reuben Langdon, that I really like. He had an entity or someone that was channeling an entity named Abram a few weeks ago.
00:42:25
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And they were talking about healing. And with talking about healing, one of the things they were mentioning were like, you know, you're essentially you are in healing, you are learning how to balance your emotions, which are you can sense in the body. So tuning into the body, you can sense the emotions and based on that,
00:42:53
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once you resolve that, you will see the healing take place. And that not only is that going to heal your body, but also your soul. So it doesn't matter if you've known about your past lives or future lives or anything like that. Like it's in this moment. I know you might bring up like karma and stuff like that, but it's
00:43:17
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very important to pay attention to what you're feeling in your body and that's where you can find what needs to be healed and to start to resolve those things, which is very fascinating to me because as someone that does Vipassana meditation,
00:43:35
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it drives you into the body. You are doing a body scan at a very cellular and particle level to tie into that energy. And when you do that, that's when you'll sometimes jump back into a past life or some other point in time in space where these are things that need to be resolved. To give you an example, I was having back pain, which was
00:44:05
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you know, obviously very uncomfortable. But when I actually focused my attention on the point of the back where the pain and like laser like precision, like tuning into it, it came into an emotion of anger. And underneath the anger was self hatred, which is one of the five hindrances in Buddhism. But it was like, Oh, my God,
00:44:33
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Like that's hiding in there. But if you had asked me beforehand, like, hey, what's going on? Like, oh, I'm doing pretty good. Got a little bit of back pain, but I'm all right. You know, like the thought of having self-hatred was nowhere in my consciousness. But when you start to do healing, and once I became aware of it, they talk about eradicating your Sankara's or there's different pronunciations for that.
00:45:01
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It resolved, the pain went away. And that was the first time it blew my mind where, okay, I'm meditating, I have this physical pain that is severe. And now it just disappeared. How the heck did that happen? But that's what it was. It was like, all right, once you spotlight it, and you're aware of it, and you meet that, you give it love,
00:45:27
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You don't love your pain, you give it love. That was a distinction. You're able to dissolve that root of that suffering. And that's, you know, one of the guys who was my teacher, I mean, that's how he got started. He was very wealthy. He was one of the wealthiest men in the world, but he went to every doctor and had like severe migraines, could not find relief from anyone.
00:45:55
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went through a vipassana retreat for however many days and finally his migraines disappeared and it was through that technique of tuning into the body
00:46:08
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which in mindfulness we call the body skin, but Vipassana is the true sort of fundamental technique underneath that, but you feel into your body at a cellular level, which everything is energy. So when you tune into that energy, you'll start to see what is causing those issues. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. Sorry, I just had to mute because my dog was starting to bark. It's all right, we're dog friendly, right?
00:46:39
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Um, yeah. And I, you know, it's interesting to me that the number of people that don't realize the deep emotional wounding that they have, you know, it could have been something from when you were a kid or even a past life or even an ancestral thing, but you hold these things in your body and you're going through life. You're like, yeah, I'm good. Yeah. It's a good day. I'm, I'm in pretty good mood. I feel good. I like my life. It's good.
00:47:08
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but you're not going deep. You have to go deep and you have to really tune in and feel into things because
00:47:15
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There's something there. And yeah, you just like you're used to sweeping it under the rug or it's not a big deal. So many times, you know, especially people who are just like they want to be good people, right? We make excuses for other people's behaviors, even when it hurt us really badly. So I don't know, let's say something happened when you were a teenager or maybe your spouse cheated on you or something.
00:47:38
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And you're like, no, but I feel good. Like, you know, I've forgiven them. It's all good. Right. And you know what? We all make mistakes. We all do these things. And I think that's an important viewpoint to have. I'm not saying don't do that because we don't want to become victims of everybody's actions. Right. We don't want to become victims of everybody's actions, but it's important to
00:48:08
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find a way to honor, though, the experience of the pain, that emotional pain, we need to honor it and allow it to have a voice for a moment. And to find it where wherever we've hidden it in our bodies, we need to find it. And just and it could just be a disappointment. Okay, you know, I did this thing when I was 22. And I failed, you know, and it was very it was a disappointment, but it doesn't logically or emotionally even affect me now, but I've locked it in my body, right?
00:48:39
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There's a book I have, and I have a number of books that go into the different places in the body and different illnesses that people have.
00:48:49
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and kind of go into what might be underlying or things that emotionally you want to resolve or some trauma, something like that. But in one of the examples, one of the authors of one of the books was a massage therapist, and she was working on a client, and I think it was the glutes. She was working on the glute, and as soon as she put pressure in that spot,
00:49:17
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the woman that was on the table was like, did I tell you that my husband had an affair or something like that? And it was something that she was sitting on, right? So the moment that she, it was instantaneous. And I have seen this in meditation with people when you're directing their attention on certain parts of the body, that's really what comes up. So it's really hard sometimes to explain a body scan to someone or it's like,
00:49:44
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focus on your foot or your toe or your ankle, your joints, but there's emotions that are stored in each of those places and things like that, like the story comes out, right? Like that's one part of it, but there's an emotion in there and that's in the body and that's what you have to release. Well, I think people need to understand their bodies have a consciousness. Yeah.
00:50:09
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separate from your own awareness. It's kind of its own, it's its own awareness.

Body's Consciousness and Awareness

00:50:15
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I forget, I think it was in the journey of souls or life between lives or something like that. The guy talks about Michael Newton. Yeah, when you come into your body, if you come in sooner, during you know, when you when you're in you're in the womb, and if the soul comes in to and integrates with the body sooner,
00:50:34
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the body receives it better. But if you wait until the end, let's say like the birthday or something, and you're waiting till the end, the body has already developed its own sense of being. And then you come in and you start
00:50:46
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upsetting the apple cart, basically. And it tends to be a little bit more difficult to integrate. And so, like, there's more resistance there. And I always found that fascinating, that whole idea that the body has its own consciousness. And it's one of those things that I wish I could just really fully understand. Like, how many awarenesses are within this mind-body-spirit complex, right? Like, how many consciousnesses are there? I don't know. I think about these things, Jim. Yeah. Think about it.
00:51:16
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I mean, this is the brave journey, right? Yeah. I mean, I tell patients, clients to talk to their body. I talked to mine, you know, it needs to be heard. I'm grateful for, you know, all the stuff I put it through and it's still kicking.
00:51:35
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sometimes screaming, but yeah, it's still here. Yeah. It's super fascinating. It's like, well, why would you not talk to your body at a cellular level? Everything is consciousness. Everything is energy. There's energy there. Have you ever heard of muscle testing? Yeah, yeah.
00:51:57
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I don't know, found out about it maybe a few years ago. Like what the heck is that? I mean, that's your body's way, right?

Muscle Testing and Emotions

00:52:04
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And so for people that maybe don't know about this, I think I was watching a healer and he was working on an animal and he was using muscle testing to like figure out what was going on with the animal.
00:52:19
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What muscle testing might be, they actually do this in therapy too. EMDR, emotional or freedom technique too, where you ask yourself like, is this issue resolved? And if you are, you know, if anyone can see this, but if you like, you know, are able to like push your arm down, then it's not resolved, for example.
00:52:41
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But if it's steadfast and your arm is not going down, it is resolved. So figuring out what the yes, what the no is, that type of thing. But your body won't lie to you. Yeah, your body knows truth. Yeah. Whereas we can lie to ourselves like, oh, such and such happen. Is it resolved? Have you forgiven them? Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
00:53:10
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I'm a spiritual person. I'm forgiving. It's like, wait, no, you're, you're lying to yourself, dude. Well, and on some level they are, but on another level, no, I mean, that's accurate. That's where they're at. That's why they're so blind to it even being an issue. Like, no, I feel good. My parents did a really good job. All as well. Like I just, we were really close now, but I'm like, okay, but you had problems with your parents when you were a teenager, pretty significant problems. That's still,
00:53:39
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in your physical body or it's still creating this blockage. And so we need to dive in. And it's so hard because I'm like, all right, go back to that time when you were 16 and this thing happened. And they're like, oh, yep, yep. And then they're like, but you know, my parents just, like they immediately go back into it. Like I'm trying to access that point that you're talking about, you know, in the body, where are you holding this? And they're just so busy making these, you know,
00:54:06
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beautiful gestures of but you know they're good people and we're close now and that's all behind us. I'm like I know but we need to access where this is in your body because it's causing that kidney pain that you're having you know so like let's see if we can access that you know so it's like things like that. I had a funny story too where I worked on somebody and she was having sciatica pain
00:54:31
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And she was walking like she was 80, but she was only in her 30s.

Resolving Pain Through Emotional Awareness

00:54:35
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And I was like, you need to come in for an energy healing session. So she came in. And so I put my hands on her. She was laying on her side. I put my hands on her bottom, you know? So that's where she was feeling the pain, the point of the pain. And I was like, all right, so who's the pain in your ass? And she was like, oh, I know what this is, my mother.
00:55:00
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And I was like, okay. And she had come to see me after being in pain for about four months. And her mom had, after not talking for about four years, decided to stay with her for a while. And so that's when the pain started. And so we worked through her mom issues in that session. And I just had my hands, I was giving energy to the pain.
00:55:27
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And while she was talking through the issues, she got up and she was about, I think it was like 70, 80% better. She came back again the following week. And what I got from my guides was like partner, like this was a love thing, a love relationship. And, um,
00:55:47
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she had had a girlfriend and it was a year previous they broke up. And she was like, you know, that's funny because that's about the time I started feeling twinges right where that pain was, but I never had pain. And I was like, okay, so this is the route, this is when it started. And then it got exacerbated with your mom. So the majority of the pain and everything was from her mom, but there was a little thing there
00:56:14
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around love relationships. Yeah. So we worked through that and then she was completely fine. Yeah, I mean, those are really good ones to kind of look at when you are, you know, in relationship and you are feeling something, you're going to feel it in your body and that feeling is not to be ignored. But we're very good about ignoring our bodies and the discomfort that we don't want to see sometimes. Well, I think what helps me with this because
00:56:44
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You know, we want to be good people. We wanna forgive what's happened and we wanna be loving and, you know, let bygones be bygones and just from here on forward, we're good, right? But that's our spiritual consciousness that's doing that. That's the higher version of us, but there's a lower version of us that needs to be healed, that needs that attention. So it could be, if you wanna call it the body consciousness or the ego or the lower self, whatever you wanna call that.
00:57:12
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but that needs to be resolved. And then you've also got like the shadow self, which is like the really dark aspect of things of you. It's like the reverse of the positive basically. And the negative side of things that needs to be resolved as well. You can't just ignore those things and pretend like everything is great when it's not fully. I'll share a story. When I first started teaching mindfulness and meditation to people,
00:57:41
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I was working with a paramedic and we were doing a body scan and their legs started shaking violently. And I was new to this and was like scared, like what the heck is happening? But then as I'm learning and I had a mentor and these types of things,
00:58:10
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years, I mean, decades of trauma, right? Like being a paramedic, you know, EMT going to accident scenes and, you know, experiencing all of that. The accumulation of all of that trauma over time was that's what was coming out.

Trauma Release in Meditation

00:58:30
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And it blew my mind just with the whole body keeps the score type thing, like, wow. And
00:58:37
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They don't really get great training in it, but like, you know, they go from one case to the next case or, you know, like one accident to the next accident. It's just like, if you don't resolve that stuff, it sticks with you until you decide to take a look at it. So true. So yeah. Any other thoughts on the mind body connection and how to be stewards of good health?
00:59:06
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No, I think the big thing is just look at where you're lacking, if you are, and take some strides to improve those areas so that you can be a more well-balanced mind-body-spirit complex on this planet. Live in the best life that you came here to live.
00:59:27
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Well, since you said my body spirit complex in the spirit of the raw collective, I drew a card and the card I drew from today, the deck was the Starseed Oracle.

Exploring Inner Wisdom

00:59:41
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Great deck.
00:59:43
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And the card that I pulled was Star Ancestors, which has the pyramids at Giza, which is very fascinating, given that comment. So this is the card here. And on the card it says, hidden secrets, lost wisdom, look a little deeper. And the card itself, or the book, the description that goes along with it,
01:00:12
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The ancients knew much more than we do about our connection with the stars.
01:00:18
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There are pyramids, temples, and other places of worship created in precise enlightenment with the stars exist in all corners of the world, which is super fascinating because I think we're going to be experiencing more and more of that as we look a little closer to things in Antarctica as well. What if this ancient wisdom is available for you to uncover now? Excellent question. You're being called to think
01:00:47
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and listen with your ancient heart and soul to tap into the part of you that remembers and knows. All ancient secrets are whispered forever in your ears. All mystic, knowing blooms in your heart. All potent power pumps through your veins.
01:01:08
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You're being invited to step into your ancient knowingness, to be held by the rememberings of the star ancestors, to look a little deeper. If you're feeling stuck, you're being called to do something different, to change your point of view. Creativity happens when we put together two things that don't belong. When we do the unexpected,
01:01:33
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So often, a creative solution is right in front of us, but because we think the same thoughts and act the same way, we miss what's in the open. You're here to remember and uncover ancient secrets and transmissions, technology and wisdom that are so needed on the planet right now to unlock your soul's memories of a time when we lived in harmony on Earth and one day will again.
01:02:03
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So, and then the the activation, if you will, is to put your hand on your heart and say I'm ready to remember ancient mysteries and secrets from deep within. So, you know, as all things when I share these and when we have these these dialogues like there's an energy transmission that's taking place.
01:02:23
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which took me a while to kind of buy into, but something happens when you share in the energy of a conversation. There's something sacred about it. Yeah, absolutely. All right, Jen. It's a great way to end. Thank you, Jim. Thank you. Until next time, be well. Yeah, you too.
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Alright, bye.

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