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Working with SPIRIT GUIDES
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In this episode Jim and Jenn talk about working with spirit guides! Have you developed a relationship with your guides? They can help with every aspect of life and they are here to help you be your best self. We all have them, and we are never alone, our spirit guides are here to help us.
Welcome to the Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jenn! This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing and expansion along the way. Join us as we bravely explore topics of metaphysics, spirituality, healing, mindfulness, and ascension. We will be sharing our experiences and wisdom, as well as diving deeply into various topics so that you can better understand your own journey. Whether you are just starting out or have been on the spiritual path for many years, this show is a space for you to learn, grow, and be inspired.
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Introduction to The Brave Journey Within
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Welcome to The Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing, wisdom, and consciousness expansion experienced along the way. Welcome to another edition of The Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. I'm Jim and this is my wonderful co-host, Jen. Hey, how you doing?
Walking the Tightrope: Life Since the Eclipse
00:00:25
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hanging in there. I don't feel like I'm saying that a lot. I'm like walking a tightrope, I don't know. The high wire. Walking over Niagara Falls right now, just trying not to fall. Yeah, it does feel like that sometimes, doesn't it? I think since the eclipse, it's just been nuts for me. There's so much happening. Yeah. So today's episode, we're
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How did we come up with it?
Discovering Spirit Guides: Learning & Experiences
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Talking about spirit guides. Spirit guides are, you know, it's funny. A lot of, I don't know, we talk about awakening, right? But like opening up to the duality or the spirit that exists in this world or this universe, just how, you know, vast it is and how many things are happening. I,
00:01:21
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found out about spirit guides maybe four years ago, right at the beginning of COVID. So I was talking to a medium, I was going through some craziness in my life, but also the world was going through craziness at the time, right with COVID and everything. And I remember, well, talking to the medium kind of freaked me out a little bit. Um, so I think I'd shared something about like a client talking about it. And then,
00:01:49
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Uh, he was like, yeah, you know, your, your spirit guides. And I'm like, what the heck are you talking about? Like, Oh yeah, you got, you know, these guides that work with you. And I'm like, really? Like, wow. Well, who are they? What do they do? So it was the first time I'd really, you know,
00:02:12
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I'm sure I've heard of that term before, but then where someone was able to kind of say, hey, you have these beings or entities that are with you your entire life.
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And it was fascinating to me. So it was not that long ago that I first learned about spirit guides and that they are there to help us out. So what about you? When did you, how long have you known you had spirit guides and you talk about your guides? Yes.
Connecting with Guides through Reiki
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So yeah. I always felt like I was never alone. Even as a child, I always felt like there was somebody with me.
00:02:54
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um, of a positive nature. But it was really about 15 years ago. Um, I started getting trained in how to do entity clearings. That was my first dive into energy healing of any kind. And, um, I was told that I had a guide named Leonard, a lifetime guide named Leonard.
00:03:17
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And that he was very happy. He was like, it's about time. I think they were waiting for me to dive into this. I had always been interested, but never really dove in. And so when that happened, I was like, oh, okay, I guess I have a guide. I don't know. Is this real? How do I know? Someone could just be making things up, right? How do I know?
00:03:37
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And then I took Reiki healing and my Reiki master was, we would do Reiki shares and he would always remind us, make sure you calling your guides and angels. And I always thought, well, that's so sweet. That's so nice. But the cynical part of me is like, but really, does that even exist? Are you serious right now? Like- Is this real life? All right, come on in guys, whatever. You know, like it just kind of felt like make believe.
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After a little bit, I was doing Reiki healing for myself every week. I would go to my Reiki master and he would do energy healing on me weekly.
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it trudged up so much stuff. And I just remember, you know, a few days after every healing session, I would be up all night just bawling in tears and having massive releases. And it was like, it would take three days for the energy to really hit wherever it needed to hit. And then I was a mess. And so then I, you know, a few days later, I'd have to go back for another session.
Channeling Leonard and Perspectives on Guidance
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So, and I was just barely getting over the previous one. And, um,
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I decided after, I guess it was maybe, I don't know, six or eight weeks of going, that I needed a break. And that night, as I was sitting on the edge of my bed, just kind of thinking, you know, this energy stuff is so weird and maybe I'll never go back again, you know, like, okay. And in my right ear, it was like a radio station changed channels. You're just like,
00:05:10
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And then this man's voice, almost like a fatherly stern but loving kind of voice, was like, there's still much work yet to be done. And I was like, oh, crap. OK, I guess maybe you're Leonard. And I kind of felt like that was Leonard, right? It's like, OK, Leonard, hi. Nice to meet you. So at that point, I knew this was real. This was just.
00:05:37
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You didn't think like, man, am I just crazy? No, I knew I wasn't crazy because I heard it. And it was just in this year. It wasn't in the room. It was like, this is somewhere divine. I don't know. But yeah, so that's when I started believing. And then when I started working with the angelic realm, I could feel them around me. And I just, I could see orbs. I think I see angels pretty easily. Sometimes I feel them really easily.
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So, yeah, I mean, I'm definitely a believer and I work with my guides all the time. And when I first started channeling and learning how to channel, I just because I knew and trusted my main guide, Leonard, that is who I channeled with.
Guardian Angels and Personal Guides
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And so when I really dove deep and it was amazing, that was the deepest channeling I've ever experienced was when I first learned how to channel. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Which maybe we can talk about that another time, but
00:06:36
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Channeling? Yeah, channeling, like kind of do a deep dive into that, but yeah. Well, there's so much we can talk about. I know. I mean, when you're channeling or even getting guidance, like it's your guide, but in some sense, it's you, right?
00:06:58
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There's different points of view on that. Ultimately, we're all one, right? Ultimately, we all come from the same creator, but we're having this experience of separation. And so when I'm channeling or when I'm connecting with my guides, I don't see it as me necessarily. In this current experience of Jen Palmer as a personality, I'm not channeling myself.
00:07:25
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I'm channeling another being and their access to different dimensional wisdom and understanding. And it comes through and it's definitely not coming from my own consciousness, if that makes sense. It's sometimes different languages, different words, different things that I don't even know what I'm channeling and then it comes in.
00:07:46
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And then I can look at a blade or I'm like, oh, that's what that is. It's not in my conscious awareness anyway, whatever it is. But I've heard other people say, whenever you're doing healing or you're doing channeling, you're actually just connecting to yourself.
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And I'm like, my experience of that does not seem to jive with that understanding. But who's to say that that's not true? I mean, I really don't know. Ultimately, none of us really know what this is. Well, the first time when I shared my story about the ferry in Bangladesh, I was not sure what that voice was.
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you know, that said, hey, don't do this. This is not your time. What I later found out was that was my guardian angel. So then I wanted to know, like, well, who is my guardian angel? What is their name? Which became another thing, right?
Spirit Guides and Soul Contracts
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Like, well, they don't really have necessarily names per se. But we'll give you something.
00:08:57
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It was, Opal was the name that came through, but it wasn't really Opal. They were just like, you can just call us that. So it was like for me to be able to communicate with them. Well, I think a lot of the guides do that, too. They give you a name. Their names mean something. So if a guide gives you a name and you go look it up, it has a meaning.
00:09:23
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And that often describes what their purpose is in your life. So sometimes we have, we have lifetime guides. Sometimes we have very temporary guides. Um, yeah, sometimes they're just in and out specific thing. We should, um, so yeah, that's my understanding. You have one guy that is with you at the moment. Uh, you know, you're taking your whatever first breath or whatever, and they're with you the entire time.
00:09:54
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Typically, although I have heard other things too, you have different beings that come and go, I guess. You have a team, you have a team. So like if you suddenly decided you wanted to take a Buddhism, you'd probably start having more Buddhist guides. If you decide, hey, you know what, I think I'm going to go take a Reiki class, you'll have some Reiki guides come in. If you want to start a business, you might have some guides come in to help you with your business.
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If you decide you want to heal something really deeply within, you'll have some healing guides come in to help you. And so we have that main lifetime guide. I look at him or her as like a case manager. And then they can be like, okay, now we need someone to specialize in this. And now we need another guy to specialize in that. And, okay, I think we're covered now. So you have Leonard, mine is Marguerite.
00:10:51
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Oh, neat. Have you looked up what marguerite means? I have not. Ah, you should. I don't know. Well, I'll do it right now. I mean, I know that we
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lived a life together. She was an alchemist in France and we had some workings together of a metaphysical nature. So sometimes you can have connections in life or a past life with your spirit guide. So they are
00:11:31
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I guess, I don't know, I just like to generalize this, but like humans, they have lived and they're in spirit form and this is a task, right? Like this is their new job, if you will, that they're doing. I just heard it's an act of service. Thank you, Leonard. Yeah, exactly.
00:11:55
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an act of service. Well, that is, yeah, right? Like all of this, you know. Jen, how do you spell Marguerite? I don't even know how to spell it. Gosh, I think it would be M-A-R-G-A-R-I-T, maybe, or maybe I-T-E.
00:12:27
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All right. Do we trust Wikipedia here? Pearl. That's actually interesting. This endlessly elegant name translates to Pearl. Suitable. Interesting. That is interesting.
00:12:47
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Margaret is a French female given name from which the English name Margaret is derived. Margaret meaning Pearl. That's super fascinating. I am reading a book called The Reconnection by Dr. Eric Pearl at the moment. Oh, funny. Hmm. Hmm.
Personalities and Communication of Spirit Guides
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Synchronicity. Who I learned about from two different people, one of which is Dr. Jean Aang. Yeah.
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And Dr. Pearl basically is, this is super fascinating. Ah, this is like a little sidetrack. Basically he was a, he's a doctor. His patients were channeling the Palladians to him in session. And he was like, what is happening?
00:13:39
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And it happened like one after another, but that influenced, that healing method, the reconnection came from the Palladians and also influenced Gene Ong. He says that's what, where he got a lot of his stuff from, which is he's Arturian based. Right. So interesting. Did you know that Gene has been at our center multiple times?
00:14:06
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I've seen him. Yeah. Yeah. I did not. It was before. This was so out of the scope of my radar. Like, like, oh, Arcturians, what the heck is that? I didn't even know what it was. All right. It's like, yeah, seems kind of cool. You seem nice. Yeah, he's got some great things online, too. So if anybody's interested, it's gene.com. G-E-N-E-A. Arcturian healing method, I think,
00:14:36
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so Marguerite, um, and then Marguerite, I'll just share this, but you know, like since they were human, they appreciate you, uh, being grateful. Yeah. And normally they've been through what you're trying to do in this lifetime.
00:15:00
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So, you know, like the lessons that we're learning. Exactly. So if she's an alchemist, like, you know, how are pearls made? Right. That it's the sand that's transformed into a pearl. Interesting. And transformation that takes place. Right. An alchemy. I mean, it totally transforms it. So that's interesting that you said she was an alchemist.
00:15:30
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Yeah, I mean, that's fascinating to me. Just learning about that. And also other guides too, right? I mean, so she's one, but there's others that have popped up here and there. And then also like soul contracts too, we have with different masters and other things. Is that something that's, that's come up for you or?
00:15:55
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Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's funny, I was just thinking, yeah, it was part of my soul contract to work with the Orochome angels with holistic metamorphosis and for ascension healing. And I just remember when I was trying to connect with one of my guides in the second level, we teach how to do body scans and
00:16:19
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I wouldn't call it medical intuitive necessarily, but it's just trying to get from the different organs, whatever it needs to say. So like if someone's having liver problems, you can tune in and try to figure out what is it talking about? What does it need? What's the energy in there? And so that's the level two of holistic metamorphosis. And we call in a guide to help us with that. And I remember when I was first calling in my HM2 guide,
00:16:49
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This was actually kind of funny.
Significance of Guide Names
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So I was like, I was like, all right, so give me your name. You know, I'm ready for your name. And I heard Riddick and I was like, Riddick? They're like, no, no, no, no, not Riddick. I was thinking Chronicles of Riddick, right? I'm like, and they were like, no, not Riddick. I was like, Redneck? They're like, no, not Redneck, Jen. Then turns out it was
00:17:19
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I think it was Rennick, Rennick was the name. And so without the D, Rennick. And so I looked it up and it was this whole big thing that I found. It's not like known as a name, but I think if I remember right, because this was probably like 11, 12 years ago, but
00:17:37
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there was like this whole thing, this whole big story about this meaning of this name, but it wasn't something you could find like in Wikipedia or something like that. Like it took me a minute to find it, but then they had this whole thing about helping humanity and all these things. And it was so beautiful. I actually wished I saved that, but I didn't. But so that's why it's like, when you really try to get a name, they will give you one. And usually it means something.
00:18:06
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And I've had times when I've channeled for groups and I've done things and somebody would say, what's the name of the guide that wants to come through? And I would, not always, but most of the time a name will come. And sometimes it's one that, you know, I'm like, I don't even know, but I think it's spelled like blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you look it up and sure enough that's in there. Like it's some Chinese name or something and you look it up and it's beautiful what it means. Yeah.
00:18:34
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I can't remember what I was learning about last week or so, but it was, they brought up, is it the Oreshone? Is that who it is? Is it a group of angels? Oreshone. Oreshone.
00:18:50
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They came up in some other modality of healing that I heard, was learning about. And it, I was like, I think that's the one that they worked with Jen. I'd so fascinating to that is fascinating because I never heard of anybody else working with them before. Not to say that I own them or anything, but you know, not in an egoic way, but I've actually looked online. I'm like, is anybody else dealt with them before? And I haven't seen anything. So I'd be, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. No, but let's talk with them and compare notes.
00:19:21
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I think it was Dr. Robert Gilbert. Oh, okay. I think it was him. He does a lot of work in biogeometry and sacred geometry and that stuff. Is that Vesica Institute?
00:19:36
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Yes, that is. It is Vesica Institute. If anyone wants to look up his work, it's just it's called the Vesica Institute. It's a lot of guys like an encyclopedia of knowledge of all these. We're mentioning him because he is sort of
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very knowledgeable about the Rosicrucians.
Sacred Geometry with Robert Gilbert
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I guess you would call him a Rosicrucian, but just the initiates like the Rudolf Steiner, that work and that kind of stuff. But he is just able to distill it. You know, I don't have a mind like that where you can just go throughout the ages and the main points of different religious traditions and everything. So it's very fascinating. But that, I think it was him who talked about it.
00:20:30
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Well, that's fascinating. Yeah. You know, one of the things I was, I was just, but just hit me. So this must've just been something coming through. I think we got to talk about the different personalities of the guides, you know, that they have personalities and it's not all just hi Jim.
Guide Communication Metaphors
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Yeah. You know, so yeah, every, every guide I've dealt with and also every angelic being, they all have their own,
00:20:59
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personality traits. Some of them are a little bit more business. Some of them are a little bit more loving. Some of them are like, no, they don't play. Yeah, they don't. And to me, it seems like the higher the level they are, the less they have to say. They don't get into like a conversation with me. They're just like, yes and no. And we're very short.
00:21:28
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sentences and they just say what they need to say and then they are done. There's no, I'm not, if I'm trying to understand it more, sometimes I'll need to go to other guides to try to escape. Okay, so so-and-so said this, what does this mean? You know, so I can distill it and understand it. But so I find that pretty interesting too. And
00:21:50
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Yeah, there is the happy medium, Kim Russo. She talks about it in her book. I think it's called like, what is my soul's purpose? I believe that's the name of the book. It was something that was helpful to me when I was going through like my divorce and stuff. It's like, you know, how do you make sense of life? And she talks about her guide.
00:22:20
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At one point leaving and like she felt abandoned in some ways by it. Um, and then she got a new guy who.
00:22:33
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you know, was training for the role, but it was, you know, she had to like earn her trust in a way, but just how like there was a difference in like the, her previous guide or whatever it was like super powerful, I guess, on the other side. And it was sort of revered in a way, uh, which is fascinating, right? There's multiple levels of, of guides and things like that in acts of service. Yeah.
00:23:02
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What else came to mind as far as personalities for you? I know like a lot of people that channel things, it's always fascinating to me to see different personalities that are like funny or playful or, you know, more serious. Gosh, I've had so many experiences and, you know, working with clients, I call in their guides and I have my own guides and
00:23:27
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It's just they all have different personalities. It's as if they are people still living, but they're just really wise and really beautiful energetically. And this one time when I was signing or just about ready to sign for the space that we're in for our wellness center now.
00:23:48
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I had this one guide come in. It was funny. So I had just gone down to Mexico and had a vacation and my connection was so much easier in Mexico than it is in the swamp of D.C. You know, the energy here is so thick. And when I got down to Mexico, it was like so easy to connect. I was so used to piercing through the fog and the swampy energy here that when I got down there, for some reason, it was just quick and easy.
00:24:18
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I got back here and it was still kind of easy. It was like something had shifted, but it only lasted for maybe a week. And, um, but in that timeframe, like the night, I remember the night I got home, I was laying in bed, getting ready to go to sleep and this guide came in and I felt its presence and I thought it was my guide Leonard. So I was just gonna, you know, say, Hey, what's going on as you do with your guides. And, um, but he was like,
00:24:49
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I want to talk to you about the contract. And I was like, he had a accent. I think he was British. And I was like, who are you? And he was like, my name is Jeffrey with a G. And I was like, OK, Jeffrey with a G, what do you have to say? So he gave me some guidance around the contract.
00:25:10
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And I think I spoke with him one at a time and then he was gone, but he had like a really pleasant, bubbly kind of voice. It was so sweet, but he was also just all business. You know, he wasn't like, Oh, how are you doing today, Jen? It was not that it was like, boop, boop, boop. Okay, we're done. Was he tapping it? Was he asking you about your contract or like a contract you had with him? A contract I was going to be signing for the lease with a physical space. So he was literally just a negotiator.
00:25:39
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Wow. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. And then I've had other ones, um, like, you know, I work with different levels of angels and when the seraphim come in, they're very direct to the point, it feels very loving, but it's, I remember this one time I was. Can you just talk real quick about the seraphim? So they're the highest level of angels.
00:26:05
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So when I was downloading the holistic metamorphosis classes and starting in level one, there are activations in each class to help you activate the energy and activate yourselves into being receivers and transmitters of this energy. So when I was trying to get the steps and what they wanted me to do, I literally was like, I think less than a week away from my class.
00:26:33
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And I was like, all right, guys, I think it's time for you to give me this activation. The class is coming up. I need to know. And I heard, go sit down. So I went and I sat down and I'm sitting on my couch. I'm trying to tune in. And then they were like, get pen and paper. I was like, oh, OK. Got pen and paper. Sit back down. I connect. And they give me the first step.
00:26:58
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And I'm like, mm-hmm. And they're like, write it. I'm like, oh, OK. So I wrote it. And it was all loving. I mean, I know it sounds like very stern, but it was just very direct, very to the point.
00:27:12
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one thing at a time. And then they were done. It was new. It wasn't like, Oh, hey, it's so good to see you. Oh, you know, you poor thing. Look at your energy or anything like that. You know, it was like, it was just directing to the point. But then, you know, if I call in other guides, like my more lifetime guides, it's more like it's more like a direct teacher student kind of feel but
00:27:41
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they're really more in my business if that makes sense. If I'm working on something in my life and I'm asking for specific guidance or what would be the outcome of this versus the outcome of that and we'll get into conversation. My experience is the higher the level of energy or the vibration of the being, the more direct and less conversational it is. I don't know.
00:28:07
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It's interesting. I mean, some of the healers that I've worked with, they will, if there's a question about, you know, medicine or surgery or health issues, they'll be like, hang on, we got to get somebody in here who knows this stuff because, you know, we need an expert opinion, you know, or a high level person to come in person being entity.
00:28:32
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Somebody who knows a bit more than what we know right now. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's also, you know, you have these were mentioning Dr. Eric Pearl. You know, you talked about essentially being downloaded or channeling this holistic metamorphosis.
00:28:52
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these energies that are these ideas, these things that come down to us, you hear about it all the time from creative people, musicians like, how did you get the inspiration for that song? I don't know, it just came to me. It's like your guides are also whispering in your ear, well, your head, not your ear necessarily. But your thoughts, they influence you in that way too, in a positive way.
00:29:20
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Yeah, through things too and synchronicities. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Some of the things we've talked about before, right? Like synchronicities, like, um, you know, paying attention to signs. I know that my guides often make fun of me, you know, it's, it's, and this is always funny to me, right? Like I'm a mindfulness teacher. I try to be very mindful, but I am also reminded quite often how not mindful I am.
00:29:47
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Or like, you know, you got, you got to start paying attention, dude. That's funny. Yeah. Okay. But that, you know, um, energy act, you talked about activations. Um, Kelly, there's so many things like health wise, it's super fascinating to me. I'm very fascinated by, um, well, I'm just learning about the Palladian.
00:30:16
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healing stuff, but like the Arcturian healing chamber, DNA. How many strands of DNA we have? 12 strand DNA. That was fascinating to learn about.
00:30:31
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But this energy that you're able to tap into, which is all around you, or that you have access to your guides, talk to them, ask them questions. I remember I had a funny experience when I started to realize I had guides, realizing that they were connecting me with specific clients.
00:31:01
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who's guides were also orchestrating that meeting. There's all these things behind the scenes that were taking place. That blew my mind. I'm like, oh. It's funny. One of the things I've talked about Raymond Grace before, but one of the things that he teaches in his class is that sometimes when you're not getting along with somebody, it's because your guides don't like each other. And I was like, I never thought about that before, about guides not really liking each other.
00:31:31
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They have love, especially the higher they get. There's love for everything, but there's a resonance that needs to be in place. And the way Raymond Grace talks about it, he's like, well, your guides don't like their guides. It was kind of funny.
00:31:47
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hadn't thought about it that way. And he cracks me up. But yeah, so there's a resonance that needs to occur. Like as a healer, when I'm calling in other people's guides, and I've definitely had times when my guides were like,
00:32:04
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their guys are not gonna be like in resonance. It's not a resonant type of situation. So then the healing I have to do is different. And I have to honor that they're on my table for healing that they signed up for me, but the approach now has to be different because there's something about the resonance of the energies I would typically bring through or the guidance I would bring through that it's not, like it's just not in resonance.
00:32:33
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I'm imagining you sitting down the guides on a therapy couch and be like, all right, we got to hash this out. What do you do? Well, I've also experienced times when it seems like I might have a team of guides helping me with something. Let's just say business or something. There's different aspects to business. You have the clients that are coming in. You've got the administrative stuff. Well, I've got renters and other things. And I've got my own.
00:33:03
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modality I do, then you've got like finances and revenue, like that side of things. So you might have like a team that helps you with specific things and they might not always be in agreement about a best approach.
Boardroom Perspectives on Decisions
00:33:16
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And so one of the things I've learned is that when I'm trying to get guidance, sometimes I need to be like, okay, what do you foresee or what can you tell me about
00:33:26
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X, Y, and Z, if I take this path or I do this thing, then what do you foresee? And so they might, I might get two or three different answers about the different specialists and the aspects that they're working with me on and what might happen. And, you know, so sometimes it's kind of like one might be like, I don't recommend that way. But the other two are like, well, that's probably the best way. So it's not always
00:33:53
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It's just like, if you imagine you had a boardroom, you might get different points of view about a thing. So that does happen too.
Free Will and Life Path Guidance
00:34:03
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I was just seeking guidance on something and they were like, yeah, we're like 80% in favor of this. What's the 20% hang up? I know exactly. I know. It's nice when they can tell you that, but they can't always tell you that either.
00:34:18
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Well, that's important. We have to touch on that, right? Because there is, I know on my end, it's like, well, I want to know the answer is just the one or you know, this person or should I go in business with this person? Or should I do this? Or should I do that? And, you know, they they they're not there for that. Like you're living to you have to make your own choices with some things. It is. And part of the problem with that is, well, there's the law of free will. So they can't
00:34:46
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tell you how to live your life, basically. They can guide you and give you options or guidance or wisdom. But part of that too is sometimes when you're trying to make decisions,
00:35:00
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And there's probably at least one right path or one best path to go down, but it doesn't mean it's easy. And you might have five good paths to go down. And maybe one of them is gonna be easy, but the other four, you've got karmic lessons or things that you'll need to work through. But maybe the best and highest path is the hardest path, right? And ultimately as a soul, we came here
00:35:28
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to live our best and highest path at any given point on any given day. And we often don't meet that. We often end up choosing a lower path in some way or maybe not the highest of the higher paths. And so we kind of get a little bit off track, but then we got to choose the next best.
00:35:45
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And, um, I think I had asked my guides one time, is there ever anybody who like every single thing they do is always of the highest path. And basically it was like, no, that just doesn't happen. But as a soul, we set up those highest paths. Cause it's how we get the most out of this lifetime. And usually to get the most out of this lifetime, you, you have the most catalyst, you have the most challenges. Uh, cause that's how we grow and it's how we, we tend to.
00:36:12
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to get our lessons and learn things typically. But if we knew how hard that path was going to be as an ego sitting here facing, oh my God, really? What am I going to have to go through to get to the other side? Nah, I'll take the easy route. We would take the easy route because that's
00:36:34
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as an ego, that's what we would do. We're like, no, no suffering for me. I don't want that challenge. Well, there's something to, you know, when you, when you plan out your life on the other side, it's nice and cushy in a sense, right?
Choosing Life Challenges for Growth
00:36:52
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You're not in, you're not in it.
00:36:54
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And so you take on challenges for that expansion, right? You're very intentional about like, you know what? Oh, I could take, I'll take on this challenge and this challenge and this challenge. And sometimes it might be too much, but you, it's very easy when you're in a place of comfort to, to say, Hey, I'm going to do that. And then when you get here and you're like, Oh, wait,
00:37:15
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I chose this. Wait, did I choose that? Why the heck did I do that? Well, you know, and it's funny, I know this is a little bit off topic, but I think
00:37:26
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When we're in that space, when we don't think we can make it, I think we forget who we are and how powerful we are and we lose track of what this is really about and what we're really meant to learn and go through and we get so caught up in the fear. Usually we're facing our fears and we get so caught up in that fear and we forget our power and what all is working with us.
00:37:53
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Um, and all we see is what's working against us. Yeah. But can you imagine, I mean, like, you know, you graduate one day, right? And you're, you're a guide and you see someone going through it and you're trying to steer them to like the hard thing, like persuade them that it's going to be okay. Yeah.
00:38:15
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It's funny, you know, because the highest path is the hardest, typically. I mean, it's where you're gonna have a lot of things happen. And I've always wanted to be on the highest path. But, you know, I have to say, after 2020, I'm like, okay, the highest and best path, like, make sure I'm on the right timeline where it's like, things are still joyful, you know? And like, I know joy is within.
00:38:41
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but at the same time, when everything is crashing down around you, it's hard to find a lot of joy. So it's like, you know, I mean, let's have a medium there. I'm all for the growth and the challenge, but at the same time, I need some wins too, you know? And ever since I started doing that, I've noticed a shift in how things are showing up, but so not- It is important to know that, and this is something I share with my son the other day is, you know, at any moment you have the ability to ask yourself,
00:39:08
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what would be the best, most courageous, wisest version of myself do or say in this scenario. And you can literally choose to enter into that. Like you could do that. It's, you know, we don't always do that.
00:39:29
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But I was trying to express to him, when you're in that situation, that's a moment that you can seize that opportunity. And if you do that enough times, he was like, what, what? I'm like, you become unstoppable. Yes, these things suck, but you can get through them. I love it. Well, it's easy to say, right? It's harder to integrate it into your daily life. And we have these fears and doubts.
00:39:58
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I don't know. It's, it's very reassuring. I would hope to people listening that to know that you do have guys, you got people looking out for you on the other side and they're always there. They're never not there. And they're working in your favor all the time. Like they really want you to succeed. How many people would believe that? You know,
00:40:23
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I don't know, you know, and I'm sure most people have seen, you know, that thing where they have the footprints in the sand. Oh, yes, absolutely. I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Oh, footprints. Yeah. Yeah. You are being carried when you think there's no one around to support you. And but somehow we make it through.
Safely Connecting with Guides
00:40:44
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I really, I'm convinced that I wouldn't even be here today if I didn't have guides helping me out. It's easy for us to kind of talk about it because we've had experiences where it's like, okay.
00:40:59
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This stuff goes on, right? Like it's, it's far different. Um, my son was talking the other day, he's like, I really want to see a ghost. And I'm like, be careful. I don't, you know, what you asked for, but you know, if you get what you want, you asked for, you might, you might not want to do that again. But, um, you know, I almost feel like, you know, when you play a video game and you, you hit the boundary and it's like, no, you can't do that. Like, I feel like that was my experience on the ferry where it's like,
00:41:29
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This is just a game. Don't do it, man. Yeah. You call it our bluff. Yeah. You know, like, all right. So there's a framework here. There's rules. There's things going on that we can't see. Like, all right. So yeah, we're going to scare the heck out of you right now, but you're OK. You're all good. Hey, man. Now you know.
00:41:55
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although perhaps that was by design, so. Yeah, I'm sure it was.
00:42:01
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One of the things I wanna say is, you know, cause when people first start trying to connect with their guides, usually people are so excited when they open up that you just open up spiritually and they talk to anything or they want connection with anything. And it's a little naive because there's different types of beings out there and some are wonderful and mean well and some are not. So I would recommend anybody who's trying to learn how to connect with your guidance team.
00:42:29
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to learn how to do clearings and then to learn how to set sacred space before you connect. And so a really good reason or example of this is when I first started learning. Did I talk about this before when I first started learning how to meditate?
00:42:44
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Um, I, maybe, but go ahead. I mean, I'm sure it's worthwhile. So I was just learning how to meditate and I got, this was years ago and I got a book that had the CD in the back of the book that you could put in your little Walkman. And, uh, it was how to talk to God is what it was called. And I think it was by Susan Shumsky, if I remember right. But anyway, she goes through this whole thing where she tells you, you know, to basically send
00:43:13
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any spirits that are around to the heavenly realm to try to create a clear and sacred space. But I don't think it was strong enough. And so I get I know I did that I did what she recommended and I put the earphones on and everything and I go in and I am trying to talk to God.
00:43:31
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I never talked to God, I never heard anything, never felt like I connected to anything. But when I came out of the meditation, I was super irritated and I didn't know why. And I was like, gosh, I guess, you know, maybe I'm just not good at this. And now it's irritating me. I don't know. But then I saw my dog and I was like, stupid dog. And I was like, what the heck is going on? Like, I just felt like, where is that coming from? And then I saw my husband later that afternoon and I was like, stupid husband.
00:43:59
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It was just crazy. So then I was like, okay, this isn't normal for me. Maybe I need to do that prayer. And I don't know where that idea came from. I did that prayer that she had to remove any beings or entities. And I started trying to recite the prayer out loud and literally I couldn't. It was blocking my ability to talk.
00:44:23
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and I forced it, it was brute force, I forced it and I was able to say that prayer and I felt it lift off my head. So it's really important, make sure you really learn how to do a really good clearing, it's a whole different conversation, but you gotta really learn how to clear, you gotta really learn how to set a sacred space. And it can be through prayer, it can be through visualization, there's many different ways to do it.
00:44:51
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Yeah, I would say visualization is very important, you know, imagining that you're, you're light in you and your heart, kind of being bright and connecting with that. Suzanne Gieseman has a
00:45:09
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It's a mediumship course on Hemi Sync. But in one of the practices, she talks about, essentially, it's a meditation, but protecting yourself, turning up your light. And then you have your energy field, like your auric field, and then sort of merging with your guide, in a sense, and meeting your guides. And it's a formal practice.
00:45:38
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But she kind of sets you up for that. Her method is, it's called the bless method. But as you know, obviously, you're connecting with your body through your breath, your your prana, a cheeky, whatever, like your, your sort of turning up your energy, your light, and then you start to let go of your fears and things like that, making sure that you're not, you know, doing this in a fearful state, you don't
Protective Meditation Practices
00:46:06
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want to attract anything that would
00:46:07
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be attracted to your fear. Right. You want to be more of a loving gratitude type state. Hence, I think the name of her method is wonderful, right? Like blast, but basically breathe. What's the L? Lift, expand, surrender, and then shift.
00:46:31
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But yeah, it's, but this expansion, right, like, so in really, in some ways, it's similar to remote viewing, but expanding your consciousness or opening up your consciousness to, to the other side and communicating in that way.
00:46:46
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But she talks about a number, you know, the different guides. St. Giesemann is a, I don't know, I would say she's relatively well known. She is a trained medium, meaning she was not born a medium. She learned how to do it. And so now teaches people how to do it. She's very fascinating. But she
00:47:10
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just very, very keen on helping you learn the different types of guides and how to work with them. Uh, but she talks about meeting your team. I mean, I think that's probably the meditation that I do the most is, is meeting your team, getting to visualize yourself, uh, meeting them and talking to them. You know, it's, it's super fascinating. It's all super fascinating. Yeah, absolutely agree.
00:47:38
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What what else do you think people should know about spirit guides in general? We haven't mentioned yet, because it's such a vast topic. It really is. I think be patient, they'll connect with you. As you're opening to it, if you aren't already talking to them, just be patient. And
00:48:06
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If you don't hear them, like I tend to hear, you might see visions. Sometimes, you know, if you see visions or things going on, that might be your guides trying to connect with you. Sometimes through dreams or when you're in that sleepy state before you go to sleep or when you're just waking up, you might hear them then, when you wouldn't hear them before. Chills, feeling them.
00:48:33
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Yeah, that's a big one. The synchronicities, they'll try to access you in whatever way you're open to it. So when you first learned about angel numbers and you're starting to get aware that the universe might speak to you in numbers, they'll start using that. So they'll be like, oh, OK, now suddenly you're aware and you're seeing all these crazy synchronicities. They're going to do that to get your attention and to confirm or
00:49:03
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show you that you're off in some way to try to nudge you in certain ways or they'll send people other people that you might know might come through with a message.
00:49:13
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That's happened a lot, too, for others who maybe can't connect directly. But yeah, pay attention to what's happening around you. Nothing is a coincidence. And when you start realizing that, you'll be like, oh, I just saw the same numbers four times in a row on the same day. Or these things happened three times over here. Or three different people said the same thing to me. There's a message there.
00:49:44
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Yeah. Yeah. That's an important reminder, you know, or why is this person driving so slow in front of me? I think preventing you from being up the road and getting in a car crash or something. Yeah, it could be work or just be a lesson in patience.
00:50:06
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Yes. This clearly happened to me. So what would you, do you mostly just hear your guides or can you sense them or is it all the above for you? At this point it's all the above. Yeah. Learning how to channel was really important for me to be able to connect deeper. And so a lot of times I'll channel my guides.
00:50:35
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But they can talk to you in so many, there's like a range of different ways and depths through which they can connect with you. And they'll meet you where you are at. When you're channeling, are you conscious channeling? Yeah, I think only a couple times did I get close to being more unconscious. That's just not what I typically do. Which is more, you might hear like trans channel. Yeah, I'm usually more conscious, but I can go pretty deep with it.
00:51:05
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Um, Edward Casey, I think was a trance channel, right? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. He would totally be unconscious and yeah, somebody else would come in. Yeah. Um, but I would say he hears some things to keep in mind when people are learning how to connect with their guides or they're asking for information.
Discerning True Guides
00:51:25
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They,
00:51:27
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It's important to distinguish between guides that are definitely trying to help you and guides or beings that are pretending to be guides and give you interference or wrong information. And it's gonna happen just like if you go into a busy city somewhere and you're trying to talk to people, you're gonna get
00:51:50
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some helpful information and some not so helpful information. You're gonna get a whole bunch of different experiences. And do not be afraid of that, but also at the same time, have a very clear definition of what you're looking for in that experience.
Setting Boundaries with Guides
00:52:03
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Go in with, this is who I'd like to talk to, and I'm not talking to anybody else right now, this is who I wanna speak with. Because if you just open up to anything and everything, you're gonna get anything and everything. And if that's what you wanna experience, that's fine.
00:52:20
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It's not a judgment, but just understand that there will probably be beings who want to take advantage of you. I would be very specific too with your intention to connect with your guide. I would specify that, or being that is wise and benevolent beyond your capabilities. Right, exactly. Making that connection. But understand that,
00:52:50
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you know, sometimes they're going to be a little tough on you, they're going to say things, you know, that you need to hear. If you're having a relationship issue, and you want to feel like you did nothing wrong, you know, they're not going to say that they're not gonna be like, Oh, yes, honey, you're, you're perfect.
Respectful and Loving Guidance
00:53:08
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They'll be like, well, there's some things you can work on. Would you like to? Okay, yes, I would, you know, so they'll meet you where you are at. And
00:53:20
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They want you to come to them with respect and love, and they will meet you in respect and love. And if your purpose is to grow and become a better version of yourself, they can't wait to help you. They want to help you. So coming at it with as little ego as possible is really important.
00:53:45
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Humility and then I really like what you said, you know Being open to becoming a better version of yourself and knowing that you can do that That's such a beautiful thing to think about like, you know, and not everyone Not everyone realizes that you can do that at any time
00:54:06
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Well, here's the thing, Jim, none of us are perfect. We all have thoughts and we all like to judge each other for our faults. Speak for yourself. Well, you know. But we do. We tend to like because we don't want to feel bad about ourselves. We don't want to feel like we've done something wrong. So we will perpetually make the other wrong or the situation wrong or whatever it is that we can feel better within.
00:54:33
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And while sometimes that might actually be true, we should always approach it from a standpoint of, OK, but how could I have done that better? Or what else could I have done that, you know, better on my end of things in whatever the situation is so that I can grow from this experience? And your guides love that. They love the hunger for growth, the hunger to just be better within your own being.
00:55:02
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they will jump on that and show you whatever you need to see. Yeah, it's funny. I do hypnosis and past life regression.
00:55:15
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But one of the mediums that I was talking about earlier, Kim Russo, she had the show, Celebrity Ghost Stories. I can't remember what channel it was, I don't know. But it's when she at some point was learning about, she grew up Catholic and so this, but she was born a medium. So she had to like make sense of like, okay, so what are these things I'm seeing that are like dead people, right? Are these demons?
00:55:45
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But she learned about hypnosis and her husband was a psalmambulist, which is like a sleepwalker. And so he could go under pretty good, pretty deep. And she started communicating with his spirit guide while he was under, which was super fascinating. But his guide was named, I think it was Callie. And she was like, wait, who am I talking to?
00:56:14
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She grilled Callie until like she knew for sure. Okay. This is his spirit guy. But it was like that skepticism, like, okay, are you good or bad? Like, how do I know who you are? You know, and she just knew too many things about his life that until she was able to establish a connection in, in that sort of opened her up too. But that was, it was always fascinating to me how the spirit guy was able to come through her husband while
00:56:44
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You know, he was in trance. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many amazing things when people dive into the spiritual experience and the craziness that ensues with all of this, but it's so heart opening and it's so healing.
00:57:06
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Yeah, I highly recommend it. Don't don't get lost into the spiritual
Emotions as Indicators
00:57:10
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bypass. There's a lot of hard work to do in in carnations. So yeah, you don't get to skip it. Well, I mean, you can but it's it'll just be there for you later. Yeah, it's not gone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anything that your guides would like to share? Let me just say
00:57:45
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So they want to talk about emotions. So if anybody's listening at this point, whoever is listening,
00:58:04
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The big thing I think they want you to understand around emotions is that they're never to be, I think as we were talking about bypassing, they're never to be ignored. Don't ignore your emotions, but understand that they are just a red flag. There's something to get your attention to look deeper within. And a lot of times we get upset in fear or anger or frustration or sadness because something outside of us has happened.
00:58:32
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to realize what's going on within yourself. What is that trying to show you? What is it trying to heal? What other wounding have you had around that? Because if you're triggered in some way, there's usually something that needs to be resolved within. But a lot of times we either ignore our feelings or we live only from our feelings and we don't honor them for the guideposts that they are.
00:59:00
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So using emotions as a key to sort of unlock some unresolved issue or? Yeah. I mean, different teachers have taught different things. My guides tend to say your emotions are a byproduct more of your thoughts and beliefs or deeper understandings. So for example, let's say someone has passed. That's definitely one where someone you care about, they've passed on, you're going to be upset.
00:59:30
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You're probably going to feel really sad, but there are people who are not upset by that. Why would that be? Right. And it's a deeper belief system where it's an understanding that they have that this is not it, that they've moved on and forward. They've graduated and you can actually feel joy for that person.
00:59:50
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So, you know what I mean? So your mindset matters and that mindset or that belief system creates different emotions. So when you're hit with experiences that come at you, your response and your reaction is the emotional side of things. Um, so I don't know that that's a hundred percent true in all situations around, you know, your emotions, but it seems to be largely true where, you know, if you're triggered by something and you have an emotion,
01:00:19
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Which came first, the thought or the emotion? Usually it's the thought. Right. Yeah, I mean, just be curious about it, at least, right?
Exploring Emotions and Triggers
01:00:29
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Like, why am I feeling this? Or what am I feeling? Yeah, and what am I thinking? You know, so you can use your feeling. Okay, so what? Yeah, what am I feeling? I don't know, very, very sad, abandoned, you know, so to say what you're feeling, right? And then
01:00:48
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question that, well, why do I think I'm abandoned? What am I actually thinking about this situation? What's really going on? So you can really start to understand things if you start questioning the emotion as well. So what's going on behind that to lead me to that emotion. I mean, that's a very meditative process to tune into that and then to see what shows up.
01:01:18
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you know, to derive that insight, you know, is this a past life thing? Is it a karmic wound? You know, some, you know, ancestral family trauma that you don't know, it's hard to tell, but it's interesting when you tune into that.
01:01:35
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essentially vibration in the, typically it's felt in the body somewhere, but as you start to tune into it and investigate it, seeing what comes up. And if you're open to that and nonjudgmental and very curious and compassionate with it, you can tend to get some very cathartic insights.
01:01:57
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I've had some really interesting sessions and I don't know how far down this rabbit hole we want to get because we're already at an hour, but where somebody would say they're feeling a certain kind of way and I'm doing the energy healing. I'm like, well, why? And usually sometimes they'll be like, I don't really know. I just feel it.
01:02:16
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And then I usually know it's maybe more of a past life thing or it's an ancestral thing or it's just even somebody who's just still living that they're connected to and they're feeling something with them, like they're feeling their energy. But usually they can identify, well, I'm thinking this thing. Well, why is that? Why do you believe that?
01:02:39
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And so I'll just keep asking why until we get to a point where we can't answer it anymore. And that's usually where I then I try to do the healing work is at that deepest version of why. And so that the why question is a really important healing tool. Well, why do you think that? Why are you feeling that? You know, well, meanwhile, your spirit guide is just helping you with. Exactly. Exactly.
01:03:07
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It's includes like, Come on, let's go. Yeah, yeah. So people, their guides, like when I'm working on somebody, their guides will come in and give me an image, like maybe I don't know, a school room with a chalkboard or something. So I'll feel like I'm in school with them. Or it will be like, I'll hear the word mother or, you know, something like that. And so I'll know where to guide the session. But yeah, yeah. So going deep and working with your guides.
01:03:38
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Yeah. We'll just know, you know, keep going. They're there for you. They support you. They love you. You're loved. Oh, yeah. So loved. Yeah. And that's...
01:03:51
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often a message is one of hope, I think. So know that, and hopefully this was helpful for those that are out there. And if you are still with us, please comment, like, subscribe, share some feedback with us. We would love to hear from you. Absolutely. All right. Well, Jen, till next time.
01:04:21
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