Introduction to Spiritual Journeys
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Welcome to The Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing, wisdom, and consciousness expansion experienced along the way.
What Are Synchronicities?
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Welcome back to another episode of The Brave Journey Within, and we're going to be fearless today talking about synchronicities and maybe shifts and changes and anything else that pops into our heads in this flow
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of conversation. But welcome, Jen. Thanks, Jim. Welcome to you too. Well, go ahead. Well, I was just telling you that, you know, these synchronicities have been popping up and, you know, sometimes I'll tell people to write a synchronicity journal. I will often write the synchronicities that I experienced in my journal.
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just to like, usually they're significant in one way
Navigating Upheaval and Transitions
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or another. And it's like, okay, I need to know this. I love that. A number of different things, but you know, um, I know you, I'm sure had very many interesting synchronicities in your life. So definitely. And I thought this was a great conversation to have because we also talked about just the upheaval and the
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the transitions that people are having since the eclipse, it just seems like it's off the hill. And I think there's a lot of confusion because a lot of this is happening out of the blue or it's very sudden, major shifts. And maybe sometimes we're seeing things that you have built up to this, but other times I'm just people are in shock with what's going on in their lives.
Tools for Spiritual Guidance
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And so with that confusion, it's often helpful to have
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synchronicities from the universe so we can be sure that we're on the right path or that even though it seems chaotic or uneasy that that we're moving in the right direction because it can be so hard to figure things out sometimes with our thoughts in our brain. It's so limited. So tell me you were telling me that you had some recent synchronicities and just tell me what what have you been experiencing lately?
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Well, massive sort of changes in my life. And there's like the thought too, right? Like, I mean, there's just a lot going on in the world. There is...
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you know, the threat of World War III. So there's like the fear in people, the economies, you have these sort of financial things. And then what would that mean? You know, safety and security wise, relationships, people passing away, people getting divorced, people breaking up. And all of these things tend to touch all of our lives in some form or another. Yeah.
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So it's in those moments where, I mean, I will go within and meditate or pray and ask for guidance. I was
Understanding Spiritual Gifts
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actually talking to a very interesting woman the other day who is a psychotherapist, intuitive psychic, and astrologer. I love that.
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Very interesting. I've never, you know, you'll meet people that have certain gifts and we all have gifts, right? No matter what your astrological signs is or whatever, you have gifts. And part of our time on this planet is to figure out what they are and to offer them in a sense. And a lot of times we've learned the problems when we're out of alignment with that.
Debating Synchronicities and Divine Orchestration
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So it can be helpful to kind of figure out and go within really, because ultimately you're the one that makes the changes or deals with the things that you have to deal with, right? Like you have to make the effort. I can't lean on anyone else. And if you go outside of yourself with a lot of people do, you run the risk of uncertainty there. But when you're doing sort of your own work,
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And even if you get advice on something, it's, you know, you're asking for clarity. Sometimes these synchronicities will come in. I think Carl Jung wrote a lot about them. So just looking up the definition here, a lot of times people, I think, call synchronicities coincidences, even though they aren't. Right. It's the simultaneous occurrence of events which appear significantly related, but have no discernal causal connection.
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I disagree with that definition.
Intuition and Synchronicities
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I think it's all divinely orchestrated. Yeah, I do too. I feel like everyone, you have that one moment in life where you're like, okay, there's, maybe this was a coincidence and then you fight really hard to like find a rational explanation for it. And you're like, I can't, I don't know what else to do.
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You have an experience like that that stands out, Joan? I have many. I was just in here thinking like, gosh, there are so many. And, you know, sometimes it kind of...
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correlates along with your intuitive development to like your your psychic side. Everybody has that as well. You have your intuition. And I remember the first time that I was like, that was weird. And it felt like a weird synchronicity to me. I was working at a job and I was maybe maybe 18. I was really young.
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And I was working at a billing desk. So I had my own little desk, and I was doing billing for the company. And the phone rang, and I would get calls all day long. And somehow, I just answered, hey, mom. And it was my mom. And I was like, oh, thank god that was my mom.
Astrological Guidance and Life Events
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Because if it was a client or a customer, that would have been awkward. But I just knew somehow. And I didn't even think about it. And it was just a weird coincidence.
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So I think sometimes it goes hand in hand with your intuition, because then you also have to understand what the synchronicity means and what it's trying to show you. Yeah. So you were telling me one that you just experienced recently. I thought it was amazing. Well, I'll get to those. So I met with this astrologer on Tuesday.
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And just a couple of days ago and she had emailed me, we'd been kind of communicating by email. And then I, you know how it is when you're busy, right? Like you don't get to your email and she had said, you know, I'm free from like five to six. You know, if you want to give me a call, just let me know. And I caught it like right close to six o'clock. And I'm like, you know what? Let me just give it a shot.
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much smaller, I don't email her back. And because I think me, like most other people, like you don't pick up numbers that you don't know necessarily. And then she picks up the phone very hesitantly. And I'm like, Hello, I'm Jim. And she's like, she's like, I normally don't pick up the phone, but I did thinking I thought it might be you. That's awesome. And then we started chatting and
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What was the other thing?
Balancing Professional Life with Spirituality
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There was some other things and some interesting things that popped out in the conversation immediately that were like, okay. And then she was going away out of the country.
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And I'm like, well, you know, maybe I guess I'll just see you in a few months or whatever, whenever you get back. And she goes, let me just look at my calendar real quick. And then she was like, I got a cancellation next week, right before I go on my trip. And I'm like, well, that's fortuitous. So I got in right away when typically you might have to wait a while. So it was like, okay, that was very cool. And then there was a number of synchronicities that I don't even know if we have time for.
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But when they start happening sometimes with people, it's super fascinating. It's like, do I know this person? How are all these connections taking place? But yeah, so that was super fascinating. And then a lot of it is, or at least it was kind of funny with the reading. She was like, you know, kind of get the sense that you need to let out your inner freak.
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I was like, kind of like, like that, right? Like, but I kind of feel like I'm doing that with this podcast a little bit. Like, Hey guys, here I am. I guess there's deeper layers there. You're more freaky than you realize, Jim.
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Well, yeah, and I think that's kind of like, you know, when you are a professional counselor and therapist, right, you have to answer for that. And the land of the woo does not necessarily correlate with that world, or even spirituality, even though it's a huge part of most people's belief
Tarot Insights on Spiritual Sovereignty
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So it's kind of wild to think about because it's a lot of times, I think a lot of therapists are afraid to go there or they haven't really opened up in their own spirituality. So it's hard to talk to someone who does have a certain faith or spirituality as well. So the synchronicities that happened over the past couple of days after that, where I was using divination,
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So the tarot and one of the decks that I've been working with is by a woman named Lisa Royal Holt and she is a channeler of some repute. She's been doing this for a really long time and her deck is called the Galactic Heritage Cards. Do you have it in front of you so you can show anybody who's watching? Nice.
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I don't know how well that comes across if that. Yeah, I can see it perfectly. Okay. So these are super fascinating. So I'm asking for clarity and I pull the card and basically, you know, there's certain, I don't know, suggestions on how to do readings, but it was like, what is my call to action? So like I pull this card and it's the, uh, I'll just show the card, I guess.
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spiritual sovereignty card. And the galactic beings that it says on here is Essasani. And then the Essasani are beings that Bashar supposedly comes from. So the entity known as Bashar is Essasani. And so I pulled the card and then I opened the book and literally goes right to the page. Yeah, that's amazing.
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So I'm like, okay, I pulled the right card. So I pulled it and I guess I'll read it. I don't know, it might be interesting for people of the year, just kind of this world and kind of how this specific guidebook kind of works. So it says, spiritual sovereignty is a place of complete balance. One walks in integrity,
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has completed unfinished business, confronted and owned the shadow, recognizes illusion, and knows the self intimately without judgment. From here, the person becomes free to feel the flow of the universe that is called synchronicity. This is an essential S. Asani teaching.
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Once you are firmly rooted in an open-hearted life based on integrity and synchronicity, you become a fully realized being. This is a roadmap to awakening for individuals and Earth as a whole. If you haven't already, it is time to
Self-Realization through Tarot
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begin the journey.
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So then it goes into to kind of further explain this, but the the Essasani is a species of hybrid of human and Zeta and is a highly evolved species assisting Earth through its transition, which is what we are in now, if you haven't noticed. Deep within the Essasani collective memory lie the healed lessons of the Zeta, Orion and human species.
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Because these lessons were fully integrated, the outcome is a species of pristine consciousness capable of non-polarized thought and a catalyzing energy that propels others forward in their own process of integration. The concept of spiritual sovereignty is described well in
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the text above, but it is often a difficult concept for the mind to grasp, which is a tendency we all have, right? We have these ideas, but it's hard for our minds to wrap around sometimes. The human tendency is to think that something out there will bring us liberation or awakening, such as a specific meditation or process or having the right guru.
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But unless we clearly see the false self and refuse to live as that illusion, true spiritual freedom will elude us. The Essasani have broken through all illusion and achieved their spiritual sovereignty, and this potential is possible for humans as well. If you pulled this card,
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It is most likely is acknowledging your potential to do this too. This is a message of gentle encouragement to continue forward and do what is necessary to awaken beyond illusion.
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Conversely, the card may instead be a warning that your current path may not be leading you towards sovereignty, but further toward illusion. I hope not. I don't know. I don't, that doesn't sound right. I think you're heading towards the right direction. Be really truthful with yourself, which I think is very important. Go deep within and open yourself to seeing what you need to see for your highest good.
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If you need assistance, call on the Essasani energy to guide you. One, well, that resonated very deeply with me in a lot of ways, but that was a synchronicity. And then it talked about the language of synchronicity as well in non-judgment, which was super fascinating. And also, I mean, that's one of the things that the therapist said to me was,
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that caught my attention and she said, there's a lot of unemployed angels out there. Have you heard that before? I think from you. She said, you know, they're just sitting there wanting to help, but you have to ask. I thought that was like a really very strange thing for a psychotherapist to say, but not someone who is very
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I would say soul embodied. Like that's not a weird thing to say if you know that there's angels out there that want to help you. That's more your realm though. Yeah, I love it. I think we should all be like, all right, all of you unemployed angels come help. I think that's fabulous. But I will say they can only do certain things. They can't run your life for you. You have to go through the things you have to go through.
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they can help you navigate. Well, that would be more kind of victim, right? Like mindset or spiritual bypassing. Like, you know, you do the work for me because I'm not willing to do it or something. Well, and it's hard sometimes because your life, life is life, right? We all go through challenging times. And sometimes I think a lot of times we're taken to our limit on purpose because you can't grow without doing
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you know, in order to build that muscle. Yeah. That's like that part that sucks, right? Oh, God, it sucks so bad. And that's what I'm like, Where are you guys? And they're there. But there are certain things that we need to get and understand. And, you know, it's like when if you're in class, and you're being told, let's say it's a science class, and you're told what to do in an experiment and to make certain things happen or not happen.
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it's not the same as going through the experiment yourself. And while the angels or guides can sometimes help you through these things and they can give you step-by-step directions at times, a lot of times we have to work our way through it blindly. And there's purpose behind that. And it doesn't mean that they aren't there trying to help and support you, but there's certain points in which you have to move forward
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believing in yourself and without their guidance as a step-by-step instruction list. Absolutely. Which I tend to want. I'm like, all right, guys, this is part of what's next. I could ask for help and it'll be given. Yes. Go away. So this will lead me into my second Tarot
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experience synchronicity.
The Hero's Journey and Spiritual Awakening
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So the last reading, I don't know how much people caught, but it was talked about non-judgment. So this was a deck of cards that was gifted to me. The Lightseer, which I think is like a popular modern tarot deck based on, you know, the, was it the Rider, Waite, Waite Rider deck? So pull this card.
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Uh, right. Kind of a couple, maybe a couple hours before we're coming on here. And this is the, uh, major Arcana, the judgment card. And then right away, pull my book open. It pops right there. And I'm like, Oh my God. Like Jared is like, he's being like, Hey man. Um, so I'm like, okay, let's soak this in because this, what's fascinating is that it's open to interpretation, right?
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So I don't get into the whole upside down type thing, but there is that polarity there, which I think would be helpful to put the, uh, the way that it came up is, uh, so light seer, uh, for judgment is self-realization and understanding.
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So going through some rough times now requires to figure out, right, the process. And then it says spiritual awakening, which I think was the title of our last, I don't know, episode. Redemption, knowing your motives and your heart to be true. Total transparency, a glorious unveiling of spirit. And then it goes into its description.
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You have judged others and have been judged yourself. And you are awakening to the understanding that the only approval that really matters is your own. And you're, and you, I'm sorry, are you doing your best with others and with yourself? It's time to shed any negative facades
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Drop the masks behind the masks, which I thought is very interesting. It may feel risky, yet this profound act of self-acceptance will unleash your absolute essence. You are light, shadow, matter, and consciousness, and you are a miracle. Why then? Do you keep your true nature hidden away from the world
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fear. There is no way to really understand your full potential until you are open and honest with your own heart without judgment. To expand and evolve requires this colossal forgiveness of the self. Forgive your beautiful soul, accept your beautiful heart,
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As you do, you consciously answer the call of your highest self and the vastness of your horizon will make itself available to you. As a nice little saying at the end, hello, essence, I invite you to show up every day. I invite my soul to shine unapologetically. So those were my two synchronicities.
Healing through Synchronicities
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It touches on a lot of topics that we've brought up though. Spiritual awakening, trust, judgment, non-judgment, soul embodiment, allowing your essence and your power to emerge. And like we've shared, this is constant work that I do on myself. It's not like I've figured out all the answers and speak from a bully pulpit here.
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Well, you know, I think as much as, and there are definitely people in the spiritual community who are very high level, who you might think that they've done most or all of their work, but I don't think we're ever done until we merge with God again. I don't think we're done with the learning and the growing and the healing. Like it just seems like it's ever refining until we're at that place where we're actually done.
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So it's super interesting. I mean, you brought up the hero's journey, right? I mean, like all these sort of themes tying in, you kind of right now with these sort of synchronicities that are popping up in, you know, my life and that I have the privilege of talking about with you and sharing with others, but, um,
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you know, there's all these things happening, this transition, but you also have these wonderful galactic beings that are, you know, or angels and everything else kind of supporting you behind the scenes in this duality, you know, wanting us to accomplish it, but we have to accomplish it ourselves individually and collectively. You know, what was just coming in, the reason I got quiet for a second,
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I just heard life can be messy. And I think a lot of times people tend to believe that if they awaken and they jump into their spiritual awakening and their growth and everything else, that they're going to get to a point where it never gets messy again. And while we don't necessarily want to manifest it unnecessarily, we don't want to create that messiness or the discomfort
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for the sake of creating it or because we're not awake. But I think we have to realize that sometimes it can get a little bit messier because you have to uncover all those layers that you've been ignoring that need healing and that need to be resolved. And then sometimes, you know, that ascension spiral as you're coming back around and you're coming up to a different vibration, you're then able to
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look at something again and find even deeper healing that you need to go through or have a greater awareness of something to help you step further into that ascension journey. And it's like, you're not done with an issue until you're truly done. You may be done for a time. But like, for example, I think I mentioned recently, maybe a month or two ago when we were talking,
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I was working on a very specific issue in my life and I was doing some work on my chakras around it and I was just cleansing and just trying to approach things differently. And at my root chakra, which is your foundation, your core safety, I heard
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father. And I knew I was like, Oh, there's something I need to work on around my dad here. And I've done so much work around all of that, right? With everything with my dad and my dad hasn't come up in years for me to work on. Like I felt like I had probably worked through it. And so talking about synchronicity later that day, I went to my wellness center and I was running a zoom meeting.
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And we were talking about toxins and toxicity and weight loss and things like that. And somebody in that call was like, Jen, while you were talking, I got an intuitive hit about something. So after the call was over, we had a quick conversation. And she was like, I really think it has to do with your dad. And I was like, interesting. OK, so that's second time within a few hours that that was mentioned, right?
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Then a couple hours later, we had an event, a nourishing journey at my center and somebody else was running the event. And she passed around a book to everybody in the group and said, I want you to just open up the book and point to a spot in the page. And that is your, that is your message. It's called bibliomancy, which is another form of divination, right? And
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So I was the last person to go. And as I was waiting for the book to go around and everybody's reading their message, I said to my guides, I'm like, all right, show me what I really need to know. What is it I need to know? And they were like, are you sure? I was like, yes, I'm sure. Just show me. Just point me in the right direction. I opened the book. I point. I look down. It was about it was a letter written to this woman's father.
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And it, I read the first line and I don't even remember what it all said now and I didn't take a picture. I wish I did, but it basically was like, I always wanted to be daddy's little girl, but I wasn't right. So, and I don't even know why, but I suddenly started bawling in front of all these people. And I was like, well, clearly I still have healing to do around something. Um, but you know, so the synchronicity of all that happening in the same day and the fact that I came to such a motion with that and, uh,
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And it was even with different issues, you know, things that I've been working on and trying to heal within myself. And that came up. So like, you just don't ignore those synchronicities. They're so important. Right? Well, it's hard to stay curious with them and be like, you know, what is this about? You know, or in that case, maybe they're, you know, something to release, right? Like emotions, energy, emotion, and just letting that go.
Starseeds and Galactic Connections
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like that for somehow that your soul needed that to happen. I don't know, but I was very grateful. It was such a beautiful day with the synchronicities. I just loved it. Yeah. Yeah. What other, are there any, there's one involving your son that is very fascinating to me. All right.
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At one point, I think it must have been the time when you had the famous actor over from Dawson's Creek. Oh yeah, Kerr Smith. Kerr Smith? Kerr. Kerr Smith? Yeah. And so your son Jacob was telling me about the law of one in Ra.
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And I was like, you know, like, in my mind, I'm like, the sun god? Like, who is Rah? Like, not really fully comprehending any of that. So then, I mean, you know, Jacob said it very, you know, tenderly and very seriously, like, oh, we're having this conversation, like, all these people were gonna have this discussion about this. I'm like, well,
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That sounds super interesting, but outside of my radar of things that are of interest. It was years later, I was reading a David Wilcox book. I'm not even sure, it might even be Synchronicity, now that I'm thinking about it. Synchronicity Keys, yeah. It might even be that, but he talks about the law of one a lot in the book.
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I'm like, what the heck is this book? And so finally I go, you know, as you do look up the book and I guess, you know, the raw material that's a channel book, you know, from raw, the raw collective who I don't know exactly who that all is. Are you aware of that? Like the raw collective, are they connected to any galactic type? Yeah. To me, they feel like they're Pleiadian.
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Pleiadian yeah So yeah, I mean intuitively that's what I get is that they're Pleiadian so for people Unfamiliar with that although I guess if you listen to this you're probably familiar with Pleiadians They are percentage-wise probably more in tune with what's going on on our planet in terms of our Transition or ascension or shift
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mostly good, mostly positive. The first time I ever heard of Pleiadians, well, so this kind of goes down a rabbit hole. But when I first started doing energy healing, the first thing I got into was learning how to clear entities. And as I got more and more into healing,
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things got more and more complicated, like really learning how to, because there's different types of entities, some of them are, you know, more galactic negative beings. And so there's all different types and forms of
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negative entities, if you want to call it that. So as I was going down my healing journey and learning more and more about how to do clearing work, I was starting to have to learn about negative galactic beings, which some people have no idea even exist. And I was having a hard time finding answers about how to do clearing work for that. And
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my Reiki master had lent me a book, I think it was called the Pleiadian Workbook, but it went through like these healing chambers basically of Pleiadian energy and starting to get connected with the Pleiadian energy. And so I started using those chambers on the people, the couple of people that I had that had those issues and they both would react the same way.
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So, but that's a whole different story, but like with the energy healing, it was just very much, it was very different and it was helping them and their bodies would jerk and they would like do things. And like, it was so fun to watch and it actually was very effective. But one, she says, and I can't remember all the different groups, but there's like the RA group, there's a CAH group, there's PETA and there was one more and off the top of my head, I can't remember what that is because I don't really work with that.
Seeing Auras and Energy Interpretation
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So they're like collectives within the Pleiadians.
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So when I heard about the raw material, I think there was a natural assumption that it was the Pleiadians, but when I connected into it and felt into it, it feels Pleiadian to me. So yeah, so I think that's what it is. And I think I tend to resonate with the raw collective. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, as a soul, maybe I'm a part of that in some way. I do feel like I very much am a part of the Pleiadian energy. So yeah.
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Should we unpack that a little bit for people just to. How do you unpack that, Jim? I don't know. So our souls have origins. So for example, you know, a friend of mine, when I got into past life regressions, did a past life regression and it came out that he was an alien. And at the time I had no idea what it was. And that was probably another synchronicity too.
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So the day that we're having this conversation, I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry. Like, I don't know what happened. Like, why would anyone, why would hypnotherapist tell you that you're an alien? This makes no sense to me. You've come so far, Jim. Right? This is only a few years ago.
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like this sounds ridiculous. Like what the hell is a Pleiadian? So then he's like, no, no, no, it's like a real thing. I looked it up and I'm like, what? This is like a CPA, right? Like very kind of black and white, like these are the numbers, these are the facts, you know, this is the logic. And so I Google it and I'm like, okay.
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Pleiadians and I start reading about them and then they're like, yeah, you know, like most people will know this, uh, the Pleiades like from, you know, the symbol of like the Subaru, like the star systems on like the logo of the Subaru car. And I had literally just bought a Subaru and I'm like, what?
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So the stars on this symbol of a Subaru are the Pleiades and you're an alien. What a day. So then it was like, okay, like I guess that like, that's a synchronicity, right? Like, could it just be a coincidence? I don't believe that anymore. But at the time, like you try to explain it that way. Well, I think there's a lot of truth for that. You know, and I, some people say that there, that all of us are,
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alien, right? My guides have said that we're not all alien souls. I guess there are certain star systems through which we are intended to be born in. But there's that term called starseeds, or in the law of one, they call them wanderers. But those really are, you know, those souls born in other places that have come here to help the ascension cycle. So
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I think Dolores Cannon also, I think she has a book called The Three Waves of Volunteers in the New Earth. And she uses the term wanderers too, but like the volunteers, like these souls volunteering to come here specifically and in these ways to kind of set the stage for this shift or transition into a new earth or whatever you want to call it.
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But that was very fascinating, right? So that opened up my, okay, well, I've kind of always been fascinated by UFOs and aliens and that kind of thing. Although I was very terrified of aliens and UFO abductions and all that kind of stuff. But the fact that people communicate with, you know, entities or galactic, I guess is the more appropriate word of the moment.
00:37:57
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That's usually the term that I use because it doesn't have a charge to it necessarily. So I tend to try to use that. I was talking with a medium who was telling me about Star Wars being channeled by George Lucas, like that whole thing. And I think it really ties back to what I now know is known as the Orion Wars. See, I wonder if it was channeled or if he was
00:38:25
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My conspiracy mind is like, who in the government was he working with? Who wanted that put out into the realm of the average person? Yeah. Easy to do. Easy to do. I don't know. Maybe he channeled it. Maybe it came from elsewhere. How it was framed to me was that he was like the historian who was chronicling that. And then in this incarnation, he's retelling the story, basically.
00:38:56
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Ah, well, I guess, you know, we may never know, but I believe it. I believe there's a lot of truth in that. Think about with how many people that story resonates with. Right? I know. You know, like, it's like deep inside your DNA or your soul consciousness that that resonates like there. In some ways, you look at these things, you know, like, okay, well,
00:39:21
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that sort of gives you the sense that that might be part of your makeup, right? Or your past, your ancestral connection. Otherwise it wouldn't resonate, I would think. Yeah, I think you're right on. When I think too, coming back to synchronicities, I think we tend to watch these movies at the right time too. Whenever your soul needs to awaken to a certain idea,
00:39:51
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or awareness, we come into that movie. And, you know, it's funny because we talked about The Matrix a few times and I haven't watched that movie in so long. I decided I was going to watch the trilogy and I was just going to start from the beginning and go to the end. I'm almost done with the third one. Maybe I'll go through. I was just like, there's so many things I forgot about in that movie. So I don't know.
00:40:17
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Maybe symbolism or symbolism, some of the just maybe things I took for granted or just was not paying attention to on a deeper level. But it's just it's interesting how we come back to some like a book or something even, you know, something we've read before, and we're like, I don't know why, but I already read this, but I feel like I need to look at it again. And then you pick up something different.
00:40:42
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And I think that we're just at a different, you know, that ascension spiral, we're in a different place where we can take different things in or see it from a different lens and process it in a higher way. And yeah, it just, it kind of blows my mind. Yeah. Yeah, it's always interesting. Even with the, you know, the tarot and anything else, you pull a card and there's a different interpretation in a sense. That's very true.
00:41:11
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or if I read the definition, certain words will stand out or there'll be like a new takeaway from it, new perspective, which, I mean, obviously our perspectives are always changing as these things arrive in our lives. Yeah, you know, I think, you know, we often see through the goggles of our wounding
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and hopefully in our healing journey, we're clearing those goggles, you know, our wounded glasses here.
00:41:41
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We're kind of seeing things through the wounding and as you heal, your vision becomes more clear and you can take more in or see more broadly what it's trying to represent. I can't remember if we mentioned this on the last episode, but we talk about how it's, I think there's some research done, 80% of what we see in someone else is our own stuff. It's like our own projection.
00:42:10
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We're not actually, I don't know if we talked about that, but I absolutely believe it. Yeah. At that number struck me as like, wow, that's kind of high. But then at the same time, I'm like, well, people do do that. Right. Like to the point of completely mislabeling a person. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about, um, you know, lying to ourselves. Right.
00:42:36
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And in my holistic metamorphosis class, we talk about the foundations of a consciousness that will help you heal. And one of it is talking about mirroring. And mirroring is confusing sometimes.
00:42:53
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Because I think most interactions are a mirror. I don't think all, but I think most. And 80% sounds about accurate to me, the way I experienced that. But it doesn't mean it's like, let's say someone lies right to your face, bold face lies, and they're just always lying. It doesn't mean that you're always a liar, but it could mean that you're lying to yourself about something.
00:43:17
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or that there's a part in you that you need to heal, because maybe in a previous lifetime, you have been a liar or something. That's a very generic example. But it gives you an idea of an energy that you're processing within yourself. It doesn't have to be tit for tat kind of a thing. It can be very confusing sometimes to see what it is they're actually mirroring. Yeah.
00:43:42
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I can remember I was in a meditation retreat and you know, they were very specific about the type of technique that we were doing and sort of some of the those very strict with the rules. And there was a guy who was doing like a yogic technique and was putting his body in a certain way. And he was reprimanded. And I'm sitting behind him and I'm like,
00:44:10
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In my mind, this is in complete silence, but I'm like completely judging this guy. Like, did he just not hear it? Is he just being arrogant? Like, well, I'm going to do what I'm going to do anyway. Yeah. I created this whole story over the course of this week. I've been silenced about what a terrible guy this is. And then lo and behold, I think this was meant to happen. We're in line.
00:44:36
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maybe for food and at this point you could talk and I got right next to him, you know, randomly. And we start talking and I'm like, man, this guy's like super cool. Like I actually like this guy, like this entire story that I have in my mind is complete bullshit.
00:45:03
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And then right around that time, another guy walks up and he goes, excuse me, to this guy who I'm having this conversation with. And he goes, I just want to tell you, I see auras and you have one of the widest auras I've ever seen. Wow. I just wanted to share that with you. And I'm sitting here like, what the hell is an aura?
00:45:33
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Like, what does my aura look like? What does that mean? Like, had no clue about that. Come to find out later that there are, there are psychologists actually nearby that do, that's one of the services they offer is sort of aura readings, interpretation, but essentially it's energy that they're able to perceive in one form or another. Do you see auras? Is that something that,
00:45:59
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I have, I don't see it all the time. And usually when I see it with the exception of a couple of times, it's usually just like that first layer, that first layer around the body. And, um, it just looks like almost like someone's shining a light. So I can, it just, you can see a glow and I have to, like, when you look at an aura, you don't look directly at it.
00:46:26
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You have to kind of like relax your eyes and let your senses take over. And so you're not looking at the thing. Like, so let's say, Jim, if I'm going to try to see your aura, it's usually really easy to see around the head and shoulders. So I might like just gently look like off to the left or right, or maybe just above your head and just have like a soft gaze without any focus. And then I can see it. I have seen colors in people a couple of times, usually in classes.
00:46:56
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And I'll have people get up against a wall and the whole class will practice seeing each person. And usually most of the class can see it when we're doing this as a group. And we've even had somebody who was not in their body and you could see their whole outline of their aura over here. Oh really? Yeah. And then we were like, all right, you're not in your body. And she tried to come in and it was like.
00:47:22
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And then we go over to the other side. And so that was fascinating because again, most people in the class saw it. Yeah. And in that class, a couple of times I saw, I think I saw a yellow and then I might have seen almost like a greenish color, but as real faint. And then one time I was working with Jacob before school and I used to give him Reiki before school. And I was like sitting at his head and sending energy down his body.
00:47:49
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And I was in that soft gaze again where I was not hyper focusing on anything, I was just in a gaze. I saw from his leg, I was kind of gazing down towards his right leg. And it was like a river of the most beautiful blue energy you can imagine, like an indigo kind of blue, but it was absolutely beautiful and had sparkles all through it. And it was flowing like a river down his leg, it was moving.
00:48:19
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You know? And I was just like, I focused. And I was like, what was that? And it disappeared. So I was like, all right, well, if that was real, I'm going to be able to get into that soft gaze again and see it again. And I did.
00:48:32
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So I don't know. I guess that was his aura or maybe it was something else because I've never seen anything else like that. Maybe it's just his natural being color. I don't know. But he is what I would call a crystal child. One of the levels of kids that have come in to shift
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00:48:54
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things. So there was indigo and there was crystal. And then I think there was like rainbow. Oh, I have heard of indigo child. OK.
00:49:02
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So yeah, the indigos are usually more from like the eighties and I think some started in the seventies, like eighties, nineties, and then came in the crystal children, which a lot of those with autism.
00:49:16
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are the crystal people, the crystal souls. And then now it's like the rainbow. And my understanding of it is, and I think there's a lot more to it, but my understanding of it is that those who came in as crystals, it's like such a different vibration. And it's hard to navigate this density with the vibration that they're in, but the rainbow souls came in and they're more easily integrating and they're meant to
00:49:47
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kind of like really stabilize the new energy here, that Christ consciousness energy. So yeah, the crystals were bringing in that energy. I think the indigos are meant to disrupt the system and start thinking outside the box. So we aren't all just like, you know, the same BS. Yeah.
00:50:10
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Amy talked about my daughter being a rainbow child, and I had never heard that term before. I still don't really know what it means, but I had, sorry, go ahead. Well, I was just to say, I like to think of it, they're just really wise souls that are coming in. I didn't read the book from Dolores Cannon that you're talking about, but I think about them being those three waves.
00:50:35
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I mean, when you were talking, that's what I thought of, like, there's these specific ways of, you know, certain children, souls coming in at that time. Yeah. Wow. Fascinating. You know, you were talking about seeing colors in classes. That's the only time I've ever seen colors that I can vividly recall where it was sort of like confirmed for me. But there is
00:51:02
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a guy named Bill Sander that does readings at your place every now and again in Akashic readings. And part of his, you kind of meditate and pray over, like you're like around the person that he's doing the reading for, and you're praying for them. And you're in this silent meditative state. And I remember when I was doing that,
00:51:29
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It's not necessarily Reiki, but you're almost like having hands up or like, you know, sending them your love that they're going to get that energy and connection and sort of healing. And I remember having my eyes closed and seeing these colors. It was like purplish and gold, but very vibrant. And that's not something that I typically might see in a meditation.
00:51:58
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And then when the guy was talking about his reading, he was like, I felt myself being just bathed in this gold and purple color. And I was like, what?
00:52:15
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i was seeing purple and gold without a doubt and that's what you're talking about you experience that was the first time i know you know it was in my own mind visualizing this so i wasn't looking at the person and seeing it around them or if it was some type of or anything like that.
00:52:32
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So I don't even really know what it was other than it was some type of energy. I'm sure, you know, colors have frequencies and there's connections with angels and colors too. You know, I've met, well, I've met children who see angels, but angels as colors. Yeah, I tend to see them as colors too.
00:52:53
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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I've only seen them twice as colors. I'll put it that way, but I knew that they were there. And then I saw those like plasma balls and I was like, Oh my gosh. And it's the color that people talk about. So. Yeah. Very fascinating. Are there any specific angels that you like working with? Or I know you have done angel meditation type things to connect.
00:53:19
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Yeah, I work with the archangels a lot. I also work with a group called the Orochome, which come in for the holistic metamorphosis modality that I do. And they're like all the different levels of the angels.
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00:53:34
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They've got different ones. It's like a special focused group where they bring forth a very specific kind of energy for the ascension. But I love working with the archangels too. So I do mostly with them. What about you, Jim? Do you work a lot with the angels?
00:53:51
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I, there's an angel oracle deck that I have, uh, when I first started playing around with, uh, you know, cards and that's when I, the Meditron, um, cards started popping up like repeatedly where I'm like, okay. And then it like frightened me. I'm like, okay, there's something's messing with me here. Um, but in my office, I have, uh, a lot of sacred geometry and then some of it is Meditron's cube.
00:54:22
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So that, you know, maybe that one specific, I'll invoke Archangel Michael and actually have another deck of cards that it's, it focuses on Archangel Michael, Archangel Raphael, Archangel Uriel, and then Gabriel. I've been told I have a connection with Gabriel, but I don't, you know, I don't,
00:54:50
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see him or anything like that. But I have prayed in that in that way. And there's specific prayers tied to the cards that I've used. So in that way, I work with them. But. But it is nice to know that they are there, that you can work with them if you would like. Are there any particular resources you might recommend if anyone wanted to look into that at all? Well, I mean,
00:55:20
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I do have an Archangel, not to plug myself, but I have an Archangel activation and healing course. So if anybody's interested, hit me up, but, um, feel free to plug yourself out. Like, you know, they exist, but there's, you know, there's so many resources out there and meditations and things like that. Um, but you know, really, if you really want to connect with an Archangel, just get into a sacred space.
00:55:49
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which means defining your space around you as pure and clear and defining what you want to bring in. And then bring in an archangel. So a lot of people start with Archangel Michael or some people called Michael. Bring in Michael and just see what that feels like. It has a very certain energy about it.
00:56:12
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and then try Raphael and then maybe try Zadkiel. And so there's so many of them, more than we could even potentially name, but it's just like get a feel for their energy and they're all different. They all have different purposes in what they do. Reading about them is one thing, experience in them is where it's at. Wow.
00:56:40
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So I definitely know that one time, at least, you know, I think it was Amy, it might've been someone else, but just my experience on the boat was my guardian angel. And when I asked what she looked like, she was talking about like, you know, these colors. So it was very fascinating. So I guess I've had at least one interaction with them.
00:57:10
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I'm sure you've had many. Jokingly, I've had many more. The comment from my art from my guardian angel was like, could you please pay more attention to what you're doing? Yeah, yeah, rickety boat next time. Can you imagine the job of a guardian angel just like, Oh, my gosh.
00:57:36
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the levels of miracles that probably happen every time we step off the curb and you know what I mean? Just like keeping us safe, making sure that we're not doing something at the wrong time. You know, what if you get stuck behind someone slow and you're driving on the highway? That could be because your guardian angel is like, gosh, they will slow down. They're going to have an accident a mile up ahead. We got to slow them down. You know, it's like, oh my God, no, all the times they actually come in and manage things because we're not.
00:58:07
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I have no doubt. I just heard a story. Yeah. The other day about that, you know, like where it's like, I, a few minutes is more and I wouldn't be here. It's like, yeah, I love my dad, but he, he falls all the time. And I jokingly say this, like your guardian angel is putting in over time. Like, I hope you're thanking her. Like my God, unbelievable.
00:58:35
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Yeah, I agree. Well, maybe we should do a talk on that someday. Absolutely. I'm sure I would enjoy that and people would enjoy that as well. All right, so you have a number of classes that you offer on your website. Do you want to tell people where they can find those services?
00:58:57
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Yeah, and I'll link it also in the description, but it's, uh, Jen with two N's dash Palmer.com. So J E N N dash P A L M E R dot com. All right. I know I've, I've taken your Reiki one class and, uh, I mostly just do Reiki on myself though.
00:59:21
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00:59:50
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Yeah, absolutely. All right, till next time. Bye. Take care. Bye. We are so grateful that you joined us. Check out the description to learn more about us and also for additional resources to help you on your journey.