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Episode 8: UFO/UAP Phenomenon, Types of Alien Races, Psyops, & Personal Experiences
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Welcome to the Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jenn! This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing and expansion along the way. Join us as we bravely explore topics of metaphysics, spirituality, healing, mindfulness, and ascension. We will be sharing our experiences and wisdom, as well as diving deeply into various topics so that you can better understand your own journey. Whether you are just starting out or have been on the spiritual path for many years, this show is a space for you to learn, grow, and be inspired.
On this episode Jim and Jenn discuss UFOs, The Phenomenon with UAP, Chris Bledsoe's Unbelievable UFO Experiences (Author of UFO of GOD), his experiences with NASA, MUFON, and CIA among others, galactic beings (Different Alien Races) and our own personal experiences. Join us for the fun!
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Introduction to 'The Brave Journey Within'
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to the Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen. This show is about the spiritual journey and all of the challenges, healing, wisdom, and consciousness expansion experienced along the way. Welcome to another edition of Brave Journey Within with Jim and Jen.
Aliens and Cosmic Consciousness
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And today we are going to get weird. Yeah, let's get weird.
00:00:26
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talk about aliens, extraterrestrials and things of that nature, cosmic consciousness. So I'm actually really excited. This is one of those things where I totally geek out on and love talking about, but you can't really just talk about this with anybody. Well, yeah, but you know what? It's getting more and more out there and more and more people do believe that aliens are real and that they do exist.
00:00:56
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Yeah. What, when did you first realize like, Oh gosh, there's something else out there? I think even when I was a kid,
00:01:05
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I believed it. And I remember being in high school one time and being at a friend's house and, uh, their father was watching something on TV about aliens and my friends were all going to go play video games. I wanted to stay and listen about the aliens. I couldn't care less about the video games. I wanted to know more about, is that even real? I think I've always believed. How about you?
Influence of Media on Alien Beliefs
00:01:34
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I watched the X-Files in my formative years and you know, the truth is out there. And I want to say one of the first episodes, there's, you know, some interaction taking place and, you know, Mulder is like, what did I just see? And you're, you're kind of left hanging there, right? And then it's like, the truth is out there.
00:01:55
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But the whole thing with aliens, that stuff really scared me. So there was a lot of fear attached to that. And then you have the sort of traditional, well, gray or green, depending on who's coloring it. Like the alien face with the big eyes. And just the thought of that and abductions and all those other things was kind of terrifying to me.
00:02:25
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to begin with. It has shifted for me, but that was sort of my introduction to it.
Evolving Perceptions of Extraterrestrials
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And then I'm sure we'll get into it, but we've both had experiences with things that, you know, once you have those, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, right? Like it's like, oh, okay, well, this exists. It's okay. Like, let's move on. And I think now, I mean, if you're paying attention to the news,
00:02:53
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There is so much that's happened. It's so much that's been revealed. It's so much that's been talked about, not just in the news, but in government that at this point, it doesn't really matter if you believe or don't. We're like 100 miles past all that. Yeah, yeah, I couldn't agree more. There's so much evidence. But that said, there's also, there's a lot of hoaxes out there too. You know, there are things, it's hard to know for sure what thing is real and what thing isn't. And PsyOps.
00:03:23
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Right. Right. And you know, don't really know who to believe or who not to believe. I think there's a lot of misinformation in the whole community. But there's also a lot of truth out there too. So it's hard to know who to believe. And it's hard to know what exactly is real. But when you're looking at like military officers and people in government under oath talking about what they experienced, something's there.
Misinformation and Media's Role
00:03:51
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Yeah, and I think that's part of what I wanted to accomplish with this episode, is that there's so much misinformation out there. And if you're just learning about this from the news, there is so much more that you have no clue about. And the so-called experts that I've seen on television, they have no idea. They're sideload. They have certain things that are coming at it from maybe the entertainment perspective or whatever. It's sensational news. The footage is unbelievable.
00:04:22
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But there's also the spiritual component, and you can't begin to put this together if you don't, if you're just ignoring that. And I think that's, you know, sorely lacking. And perhaps what we'll get into a little bit is kind of allow this conversations to flow. Yeah. Well, it's interesting.
Personal UFO Sightings
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You know, I remember I was telling you earlier, Jim, that I you know,
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I think one of my first experiences as an adult, a real experience is really something that really helped me firmly believe that there are things going on. It started with my youngest son, Nathan. He would see things out of his window up in the sky and he'd be like, mom, is that an alien? Is that a UFO? And I was like, I don't know, but it looks like it. And it would like light up and then shut down
00:05:22
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And then you could still kind of see it in the air or up in the sky, but it wasn't lit up and then it would light up and move. So we had like that kind of thing happen. And then I know I've done things like I've had
00:05:36
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I had a lot of interesting experiences where I've seen things. We took a retreat to Sedona, and we went out to this road called Schnebbele. I'm not familiar with Sedona. I really want to go. Well, if anybody is, go on Schnebbele. That was awesome. You drive up this dirt road, and then you're on top of a hill.
00:05:58
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And we saw so much activity up there. I mean, there were ships all over the place and some of them would light up. Like I had a red laser and you had to be careful with that, you know, because you don't want to affect anyone who's actually in flight. You know, you don't want it to blind somebody. So you got to be careful. But I used a red laser just to show them that I saw them and then they would move and some of them would keep their lights off and move and you could see it. All of us saw it. It would move.
00:06:26
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trying to make sure we couldn't find it again. And then other ones we would shine on and they would bright up. They would just like all of a sudden the lights would go on and then they would shut down. And there was- This is you in a group like consciously interacting with these? Yeah. And then there was another one in that same experience where we were like, if you are positive and you mean well in your heart loving group, light up.
00:06:56
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And they did, they lit up and then they moved and then they shut it down and they lit up again and then moved and shut it down. So we had a lot of really interesting experiences with that. And we tried it three nights in a row and that was the only night we saw anything. We tried really hard to see it the other nights. We tried different locations, but that was the one location that night where we saw all kinds of activity. The sky was littered with them. I mean, I've seen,
00:07:26
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so much footage at this point with different things. Now, were you doing the CE5 protocols? Yeah, I've done other groups where I participated in where we did that, but we did something a little bit different. We got together, we just really meditated, got into a loving space, and then connected.
Connecting with Extraterrestrials through CE5 Protocols
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So it was a little bit different. We didn't play everything and do everything the way they typically recommend, but it was- For those that don't know, there's a gentleman, Dr. Steven Greer, who has a protocol
00:07:56
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There's an app you can even have on your phone that he kind of goes through how to do a meditation and just connect with them. I think play some tones and things like that recorded at like crop circles and different things which people use to
00:08:13
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to intentionally invoke communication with, I don't know, whatever this is, right? With whatever you want to call it, I don't know, extra dimensional beings, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I believe that that's very real. Some people confuse, I think, alien with multi-dimensional, extra-dimensional type beings. You know, I've definitely read that there are
00:08:40
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You know, a lot of these beings are more energetic, but they can come into a form. Um, so when it comes to, is it like a physical, physicalized being, or is it a light being or energy being, I think you can have both. So I tend to use the term galactic to kind of encompass all of it. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. Just because, you know, we don't really know, we don't really know, you know, who's what and what they're doing and
00:09:07
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And even when we're looking in the sky and we're seeing things, we don't know if it's one of ours that we just, as humans, don't really even know exists yet. Or could it be something truly alien or galactic of nature? But we don't really know for sure, but there's definitely, there's something happening and it's not just human.
Good vs. Bad Aliens and Energy Healings
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And I remember one time I was standing outside in my yard
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And I had my dog out and she was trying to go to the bathroom and she was taking forever. So of course I was like, all right, I'm just going to be here for a minute. Let's see what happens. You know, and I'm waiting, waiting. And then I was like, you know what? I'm feeling really good. I wanted to look up into the sky and just show some gratitude. And I did. I just, I felt so much love and so much gratitude for the galactic help that I've received. Cause I work with galactic beings in my healing work sometimes and um,
00:10:04
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I find it hugely helpful. And so I just was just showing love. And literally a second later, there was this, it's like a corkscrew of energy. I don't even know how to describe it. It was a corkscrew and it, it was big, but you know, it was in my front yard. So it's hard for me to describe how big, but it shot down at an angle and landed in my front yard.
00:10:32
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And then I didn't see it, you know, like, but it landed there. So I know somehow it was like something anchored there. I don't know what it was exactly, but it was right after, like immediately after I was expressing love and gratitude. And it felt loving. It didn't feel like a bad thing. And I do want to say, you know,
00:10:52
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And not all people agree with this. Some people think all aliens are bad and they're all demons. So there's a group of people that think that. True, yeah. There's maybe a more Christian perspective with that, but yeah. And then there's some that feel like they're all good and that they're all loving beings. And I'm in the middle. I do think that there are positive and negative. In fact, when I first really felt introduced to what was going on,
00:11:20
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my first mode of energy healing was to do clearings and to clear negative or dark entities from people or spaces and I came across somebody who had What seemed like and when I tuned in about it what I heard was Alien demon and I was like is there such a thing?
00:11:41
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And I talked to somebody else who did clearing work and she was like, I've never heard of anything like that. I don't know what you're talking about. Um, she's like, I, I don't know. So I spoke about it to my Reiki master and he was like, Oh, you need to work with the Pleiadians. And I was like, the what are you talking about? He's like calling the Pleiadians. And so I did.
00:12:07
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And it really did help. It really helps that there are good and bad in all aspects of being. Um, the way that I've, I interpreted or what I've heard is, you know, they're kind of like you, are you good or bad? Yeah. Well, as in humans, you know, it was like, yeah, we're, I would say mostly good, but there are some elements that aren't. Yeah.
00:12:33
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That's my take on that.
Role of Pleiadians and Spiritual Guidance
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But the Pleiadians, well, I think I had mentioned in a previous episode that my friend had gone in to do a past life regression with somebody, and it ended up being a future life progression. And the word Pleiadian came out, and that was the first time I'd ever heard that term before. And then the connection for me was, what is a Pleiadian? And then I, you know, what do you do?
00:13:03
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Google it. It's like, okay, these are these, I don't know, race of beings or whatever you want to call them, Galactics, who are, I would say, positive oriented, mostly. Yeah, I use, I like the term generally. Okay. We can't speak for every single being. Right. So, but they're one group specifically that is sort of helping
00:13:34
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humanity, I suppose, is they're one of the main groups. And then another time when I started getting into hypnosis, another healer had said to me, you know, have you worked with any aliens yet? And I laughed because at that point, I'm like, yes, I actually have. And then we started talking about like Syrians, like interactions with Syrian beings being in and
00:14:03
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I was so naive. I'm like, well, where are they from? They're like, well, serious. I'm like, oh. But there was a really interesting connection with that because once I started asking about Syrians in like series A and also series B, one of the movies that has been most influential in my life has been The Matrix. The actor that was the star of that was Keanu Reeves.
00:14:34
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He had a band. Do you know the name of his band? No, I don't. Dogstar. Interesting. I did not know that. Which when I first heard of his band's name, I thought that's a really dumb name or kind of a weird name. I don't know. It's not like it's what I think it's Sirius A. It's the name of the star. It's what they call it, the Dogstar. I think it's the brightest star in the sky.
00:15:04
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Well, I've always thought he's a star seed. He's got to be, right? He's got to be. And he doesn't fit in Hollywood either. He's legitimately seems like a down to earth honest guy. Who knows? But he doesn't seem like he fits into that scene. I would agree. But I thought that was fascinating. But that was another sort of synchronicity for me, where I'm like, OK.
00:15:32
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Syrians, Pleiadians. Might as well go down the list, right? Arcturians? Yeah, why not? Yeah. Well, there's so many. I mean, I don't even... We're not going to be able to name them all. Yeah. But also, andromedans are another big one in the vegans. Andromedans are very fascinating to me because when I first learned about them, someone was like, yeah, they're blue.
00:15:58
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and they were telling me about the Indromedans and they're like, yeah, you know, they were influential in the Vedic texts. It's like, yeah, you ever see any depictions of Hindu gods? I was like, yeah, they're blue, aren't they? And I was like, yeah, well, there you go. Oh, okay. So there's these interesting things. And they talk about in the Vedic texts, like Vimanas,
History and Limited Perspective on Galactic Beings
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right? Like flying machines.
00:16:27
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These are ancient texts talking about essentially UFOs, UAPs. So our history is littered with all of this stuff. And we have a narrative of history that we've been told, but I think it's far greater than that. It's far more galactic. The way that I've typically looked at this is I'm living in the cave, like the Plato's allegory of the cave.
00:16:53
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and there's all these shadows and we think this is all there is. And then eventually we break free and we look outside and there's this whole vast universe that's far more expansive than we ever imagined. And I think part of what's happening now is our own collective expansion and expansion in our lives as this sort of shift is taking place. And I think we're seeing more and more of that sightings, experiences,
00:17:23
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Things happening, you know, it's just, it's, you know, interviews in Congress, those types of things, like where it's disclosure is sort of this ongoing process. Well, you know, it's funny, I had this one experience, I'm just remembering it now. I was coming home from work and at the time I only worked, yeah, I lived about a mile and a half from where I worked. So I was just driving down the street from work and I was, I came up to a point where I was getting ready to turn right onto the street that I live on.
00:17:53
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I happened to notice as I kind of looked up, there was this huge craft. I don't know. I've never seen anything like it. It was literally right above me and to the point where I think I even saw someone sitting in it, but it was completely silent and it was just hovering there, lights off.
00:18:18
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And I literally on the road stopped the car and looked up and I was like, what am I looking at right now? I knew it was an alien. Maybe if it was further up and I couldn't see the person in there, I might've been like, I think this is alien because it's nothing like I've ever seen before. It looked almost stealth-like. It definitely sounded stealth-like. I could not hear anything.
00:18:39
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And then it'd be like triangular craft like the TRB or whatever they say. Slightly. And I tried to find an example of it online afterwards. And this probably happened I think as before 2020. So it was probably like four years ago. But it just then it took off and it like just like turned and went. But it went fast. It was it was almost like they wanted me to see it. It was the weirdest thing.
00:19:07
Speaker
I've never had another experience quite like that. My understanding is that these things are, them being seen is very intentional, but also that you have to be of a vibration to see them. Yeah, but I don't know that this was alien. This might've been human, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, we, it's hard to tell sometimes unless you really know the technology and you're aware of what's going on. And I certainly don't, but I would not say that that was alien.
00:19:37
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Interesting. But it makes it very interesting because we don't know for sure how much of what we're seeing in the sky is truly from, you know, it's technology that we aren't aware of yet. Yeah. So I guess I'm just going to go here.
Post-WWII Alien Interactions and Influence
00:19:52
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Sure. I wanted to talk about this. I think you should. So I mean, I guess a little bit of history lesson. A lot of these things started happening after the atomic bomb
00:20:08
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I think at that point, if you think about the multiverse and different dimensions, like the, what happened with that bomb and the destruction of that started impacting other things. And so they're essentially like watchers, like, you know, we better keep these people from blowing themselves up. And so you had things like Roswell after that, and you've had a number of sightings, at least with the military,
00:20:37
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around nuclear installations. So some of the best, you know, and if you're going to go there, like most trustworthy things are people that had the responsibility of making sure the world didn't blow up in their accounts of, you know, galactic beings basically shutting down nuclear weapons, that kind of thing. But after World War Two and towards the end of
00:21:06
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Eisenhower's administration. So the story goes is there was a meeting with him and then also forces within the military, the military industrial complex, and essentially a deal was made with the Zetas who are negative and gave them weapons and cloning technology and all these other things used to be more destructive versus Pleiadians who are offering more peaceful technology and wisdom
00:21:37
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And so at the very end of Eisenhower's, I think it's his farewell address, he warns everybody about the power of the military industrial complex very clearly. It's a very ominous warning that he's giving the American people. And then shortly after that, you have JFK, who might've been a Pleiadian starseed, and also Marilyn Monroe,
00:22:06
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I'm like, of course, hearing all these stories, right? Yeah. In their relationship and wanted to tell people and we know what happened to them. So that sort of point in time is very pivotal. And like, you can kind of go back and look at those things and see where, you know, our government, our intelligence agencies were involved in things that maybe they shouldn't have been.
00:22:32
Speaker
Um, again, this is what kind of, I didn't want to get into this, but at the same time, it's important to know that, you know, that was happening and that there is technology that we have that exists that, you know, is essentially extraterrestrial technology that you're seeing that is our technology. It's not some other thing. So that's a little bit about that. There's a lot of stuff.
00:23:01
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for that too.
Disclosure and Future Revelations
00:23:03
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Well, you know, it's interesting because I think we're coming into a time where they're starting to put out the disclosure, they're calling it disclosure. So they're putting out that disclosure. But there's a there's evidently a group that wants it more controlled and only certain things released. And then there are those who want everything released or as much as possible. And I just think we're in for
00:23:28
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maybe the next five, 10 years of just information coming out where we're going to find out, you know, who are we, where do we really come from? Who are all the different beings? And, you know, I've heard other channelers say that probably in the next couple of years, we are going to have open disclosure, open disclosure where we are actually seeing beings and which essentially we're getting invited into the galactic community where it's like, yeah,
00:23:56
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You know, we're here, we've been here the whole time. You haven't seen us, but now that you are graduating up, you know, here we are and this is kind of what's going on. But that's why our awakening is so important and really starting to understand like what's truly going on, what our real history is and who's been trying to keep that from us and why. And really understanding what our freedoms are and why we have them or why we should have them.
00:24:26
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and helping us commit- Well, we have free will, yeah. You're not powerless. Yeah. You just agree with me? Well, I think we should have free will. I think in some cases we certainly don't. And I also think that there are beings that try to take advantage of that and they don't follow that rule. And whether they're human or spiritual, what's that? Deception, manipulation. Yeah, yeah. And just not honoring what you want or don't want.
00:24:56
Speaker
And so I think free will is the role that the positive path tends to follow, but those who maybe play with other sets of rules don't follow that at all. They don't care about free will. But I think as we're awakening as humans or souls, however you want to put that, as we're awakening, we're realizing what that even means.
00:25:24
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And that's why at this point in time in our soul's history, or as human history, as much as we've been in this cycle, this is such an important time because it really is about us awakening and seeing what this really is, or at least more of what it is. You have power to awaken. I mean, you ask questions, be skeptical. If anyone was telling me about
00:25:53
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UFOs or sightings and things like that, you know, you, you don't take their word for it, right? Like you can be in my room and explore it yourself. Um, I was telling you about when I was talking with my neighbor, so I live in Baltimore, right? So, you know, we have these, you know, patios or porches in the front of the house and I live near a busy airport.
Personal UFO Experiences and Arcturians
00:26:17
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So there's constantly air traffic. There's constantly helicopters. It's a very common thing. And one evening I was talking with my neighbor and his wife, and I'm going to tell you the story. And thank God I was with other people, because some of these things I would never share. I was telling him about the Arcturians.
00:26:46
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at different beings and, uh, that kind of thing. And we're just kind of gazing into the sky and it was, it was clear. You could see all the stars, which is not always the case. Um, and as I'm talking about the Arcturians and we're both just kind of looking into the sky. So he's sitting next to his wife, a star you use the word phase in. I hadn't called it that, but a star came like,
00:27:17
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in and like lit up, like flashed, and then retreated. And then another one, in succession, another one did it. And then another one did it, as I'm telling him about the Arcturians. I've never seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. So I see this happening and I'm like, what do you even say? Like, it's just like amazing. Hello. Well,
00:27:47
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A lot of things I'm talking about, as I'm learning, oh, that just communicated to me. That's crazy. So my neighbor looks at me and goes, Jim, oh my gosh, did you see that? I'm like, yeah. He's like, that was unbelievable. I'm like, I know. It was so cool to have that happen where it was like these three flashes of, and these are not like,
00:28:17
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lights on an airplane. I know what those look like. Okay. I've flown an airplane. I get it. These were from the sky. They came in from far out in the universe and flashed up close and then pull back. It was unreal. But it happened at that time. I was talking about Arcturians. So synchronicities, making the connections like, okay, I was talking about Arcturians, and then that happened. Who are Arcturians? Okay, they are these
00:28:47
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Advanced beings in the universe that are like, uh, I want to say angels, but very spiritual, highly evolved, like, you know, several hundred thousand years, more evolved than we are. And, uh, we're, we're like the newcomers or the newbies in the universe kind of figuring things out, but they are far more advanced than their technology. Um, and then you've even worked with a guy, right? He does Arcturian healing.
00:29:14
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Yeah. Yeah. We used to have him come to the center and do things. In fact, I was going to say another experience I had with the phasins, but I'll mention him real quickly before I go into that story. His name is Gene Aang, A-N-G. And if you just research him, you'll find his website, but he does Arcturian healing method. And it's a really wonderful set of technologies and energetic technologies and things that we use to help with the healing process. And I love the energy. It's fantastic.
00:29:44
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But one time when he came to do, he would come into town for like a week at a time and we would do training in the healing method and then do other things at night. So one night, we used to like, every time he would come in, we would go and try to connect with galactic beings. And I think almost every single time we would get together, it was never a letdown. I mean, you know, there might've been one time when we feel like we didn't get much. But this one time in particular that we did,
00:30:13
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We were actually in a somewhat busy park area, but it was nice and big so that we can meet, and there was maybe 10 of us. And we were sitting in all this park area with our lawn chairs, and the park was lined with trees. So when we started calling them in, all of us started seeing, and it looked like a four-pointed diamond, and the light would just kind of phase in and then pull back out.
00:30:41
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And, but it was like at the tree line level, we saw it down low and they were phasing in and coming in. What Jean had said, if I remember right at the time, cause this was a while ago, uh, this was probably maybe more like seven, eight years ago, but he thought it was them phasing into our area, like trying to come in and be a part of things here. But I mean, we're talking by the hundreds. We saw a lot of those phasins.
00:31:09
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And I'm sure people walking by would see it too, because it was dark out, you know, or getting dark out. It was like it had just gotten dark. And then we started seeing all the phasons. And after that happened, when I would get into sacred space and start doing healing work, and I was using the Arcturian healing. So maybe it was the Arcturians. I wasn't putting two and two together until we were just sitting here talking now. Maybe it was the Arcturians. I wasn't sure who it was. But when I would start doing healing, they would come in. I would see the phasons in my office.
00:31:40
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Yeah. Yeah. It's super cool. I've had one, maybe a couple, but one more that I'll share. When I was out in Colorado, I saw a light shoot at a high rate of speed up into the air, like straight up. And I didn't, my first thought is not that this is like a UFO.
00:32:09
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I was like, what in the world could possibly do that? Your mind tries to make sense of things that you see. Then there's some fairly famous footage of a UFO in Jerusalem. When I saw that footage, that is exactly what I saw. It was super cool to see something and be like, I have seen that same thing.
00:32:40
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And then Colorado has its own, like it's Mount Blanca among other places that are sort of UFO hotspots and things like that. I have not seen anything there, but I do know that that's, that is a thing. And there's also a connection too with Native Americans and sky people. And there's a lot of history with that.
00:33:04
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dating back, not just like the Andromedans and the Vedic texts, but from a Native American philosophy and their stories and traditions have a lot of these things. Yeah, I've read about some of that too. And you see some of the depictions that they have where they tried to describe the sky people and who they were. It's fascinating. I want to say too, if anybody who's listening to this is fascinated by this conversation, they should check out the show on History Channel called Ancient Aliens.
00:33:35
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That's fascinating. I think we mentioned it in another show, but it's really, they've got a lot of different, I don't remember how many seasons they have at this point, but fascinating. It really, not that everything is probably true, because who knows? But I think a lot of it strikes true to me. It feels like it's in the right line of thinking anyway. And so I'm curious now that we're talking about this, just, and the only reason I'm thinking this is because
00:34:03
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In ancient aliens, they talk about Bigfoot, but also East City Ranch in Washington, which I've never been to, and I would love to go to at some point. But they're known for their galactic contact, and they have experiences all the time. But they also have Bigfoot. And I was shocked that ancient aliens put Bigfoot in connection with this idea of aliens. That was the first time I ever heard of that. Oh, yeah. Now I'm like,
00:34:30
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I think it's true. You know, you take these two crazy things, aliens and books, like you smash it together and what do you get? Ancient animals. Don't we talk about it in the law of one? You know, I don't know. I don't remember that because like I said before, a lot of times when I, when I try to read through law of one, I get into a trance. It's so hard for me to digest what's being said, even if I'm listening to it.
Bigfoot, Multidimensional Beings, and Strange Disappearances
00:34:54
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So if I listen to it, I've got to do for like maybe five minutes. Well,
00:34:59
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They talk about it a little bit in the law of one. What do they say in the law of one? I don't remember that at all. I mean, I want to say, well, there was life on Mars a long time ago. And so sometimes you'll see like, you know, people on the Internet seeing like satellite photos or being like, oh, there's structures here. There's this there on Mars. And it's like, well, according to law one, there was life there. And, you know, it's it's since moved on.
00:35:27
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But Bigfoot plays a part in that, in that it's essentially a multi-dimensional being. So some evidence you'll see, you know, one minute Bigfoot's there, one minute it's gone. Or I saw a really good piece of footage that described it. There's, I think it's on the travel channel, there's a show. They got a, they captured footage of a silhouette of a Bigfoot, but no Bigfoot.
00:35:58
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that are like scanning and you see this, like you see an image, but there's nothing there. And it was just, to me, it was like, okay, yeah. So there's something to it, right? Like you can't dismiss all of these encounters and all of these things, you know, certainly there's hoaxes and people praying pranks and all this other stuff, but I have nothing to say with ancient aliens about it, but. Yeah, you should watch it.
00:36:27
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I remember watching that with my kids. It's like, no way. It's just like, it's such a cool show. But it reminds me of, you know, a different note. Have you ever seen the show Missing 411? Yeah. Yeah, that's some pretty incredible stuff. Okay, keep going.
00:36:45
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I haven't watched as much as some other people have of that show, mostly because it freaks me out a little bit. Yes, it freaks me out a little bit. But didn't he used to be in law enforcement? Yeah, I just had an interaction with him on Twitter. But yeah, he goes into these, you know, a lot of times it's at state parks where people go missing. And they're there and then they're gone. Or they
00:37:10
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or they might show up again sometimes, but they're like miles away, barefoot, and there's no way that this kid could have gotten to where they ended up in that timeframe, barefoot in the cold weather or whatever, there's just in the terrain. And so there's like all these really strange things. And so it's like the more strange it is, the more he takes it on and he goes and looks to see what's happening.
00:37:33
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there's like these beliefs that, you know, maybe I've heard some ideas that maybe it involves Bigfoot somehow, or that there's portals to places. And there's like all these crazy theories around it. But there's something really strange happening there. I think he's very, he's very practical. I think he was a homicide detective, if I'm not mistaken. I think you're right. If he was just an investigator or
00:37:58
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was with the FBI, but his videos are very compelling. One in particular, when I saw this, I did not know that there was a lot more to this particular place, but there was a guy, he's walking, he's with his friend. They are both seasoned hikers, and I believe they were, this is at Mount Shasta.
00:38:27
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in California. The friend is walking ahead of him, like maybe a few hundred feet or so, and then he just disappears. And you can see the tracks in the snow, and then there's no more tracks. And he's gone. And so the connection is like, where could you possibly have gone?
00:38:53
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It makes no sense. When you know, Mount Shasta is known for its alien connection, too. I did not know that at the time. Wow. I'm not even sure this was the show that it was talking about the alien stuff because he's trying to figure he's genuinely like compassionate and trying to figure out like to give these families and you know, these spouses closure, like I'm going to take a look at it and just kind of see what angles to take with certain things. I did not know
00:39:22
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I have a group in California, they were like, oh yeah, like people go up there and there's supposedly like a civilization that lives in the mountain, like the Telos, I think is the name of it. Telos civilization. And I'm like, wait, what? And this guy just disappears there. And like, this is, you know, if you're talking about different dimensions, like, did he just walk into another dimension? Like, where did he go? Like, how could he just disappear? Right?
00:39:52
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And there's like, like, you know, it's a police investigation. So there's evidence of everything that they show, but missing 411 is the show. I can't believe you brought that up. We should totally do a show on this sometime. It's reminding me of, we're totally getting off topic of galactic beings, but it's fascinating. So I want to go with it. Um, I recently took a pendulum healing class from Raymond grace, who he is just amazing, amazing, amazing healer. And, um,
00:40:22
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He's really well known for changing water and healing water so that you might have a substance or a toxin in a water. He does his pendulum healing, and then it's gone. It's not in the water anymore. So he's fascinating to me. But he was telling in his class, he was talking with another friend of his who also attended and was telling some stories. Both of them, they had two different stories about trying to get somewhere and
00:40:50
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It might've been like a, I can't remember now for sure, but let's just call it a six hour drive. It would have been a six hour drive, but the guy who was telling the story, his friend, I think he was actually getting to his house if I remember right. So he was driving to Raymond's house, but it was like a six hour drive and he only had, and again, I can't remember the exact timing, but let's call it two hours to get there. And you know, there's no way, no matter, even if you drove really fast, you can't get there in two hours.
00:41:20
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And so one of the things that he says you should always do is basically reaffirm constantly that I'm always at the right place at the right time. I'm always at the right place at the right time. Two different times, they had two different stories with this, but I'll just say this one. He was driving and suddenly it felt like he had entered into a different time.
00:41:46
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And then he saw a car on the side of the road and the way the woman was dressed, it looked like it. I think he said it was from the seventies, the car and the person, the woman, the bag she was carrying, she was carrying bags and everything looked like from the seventies. And then somehow sometime he popped out. He got to Raymond's house with a few minutes to spare. So his theory is,
00:42:12
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And actually, Raymond's is too, because they had another experience where they were doing it together in the same car. They were driving south. Same experience happened. They somehow went through a time warp of something they think maybe they entered in. This is how I understood it. They think they entered into a different time. Like they time jumped or something. And they came back out of it and ended up where they needed to go on time.
00:42:39
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Right? And they're just crazy. So, like, there has to be, like, doors. I've heard other stories in, uh, I'll shh. Is that called jumping timelines? You know, I don't think I would call that jumping timelines, but maybe. But it's like they entered in through a portal of some kind that took him into a different time and then brought them back out where they needed to be on time in this time and space.
00:43:07
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That's interesting. I've heard people talk about that. I've never had any, well, that's not necessarily true. I don't even know if I want to share this. People are going to be judging me already. Well, then why not continue? Well, I'll share someone else's. One of my friends, there was a movie, an Elvis movie that came out.
00:43:36
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like maybe like a year or two ago. And she had her girlfriend over, they were all excited, you know, kind of like, they're old, a little bit older, they're, you know, kind of reliving their youth, they're going to watch this movie. And so they have a DVD or like Blu-ray, right? Which who has that at the bar? They have a physical copy of this DVD, and they open it. So
00:44:06
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Some people might not even know that like there's a plastic wrapper on the DVD box. Yes. Right. So you have to rip off the plastic wrapper and then usually there's like a sticker and you got to like peel that off and then you can open up the case and then there's the disc. So they do this and they go to like make popcorn and get ready and they come back and then the DVD is sitting there and it is completely sealed like nothing had ever happened.
00:44:35
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And they're looking at each other like, we just opened this DVD. How does that happen? Interesting to note, this woman has been to Mount Shasta many times. So who knows? But like that, that sort of timeline, not long after she even told me that story,
00:45:05
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I had something where it was basically like deja vu where I had read this book and then I'm going back and then I'm like going over or trying to like finish it and like it starts replaying from a time where I'd already heard it and I'm like,
00:45:31
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am I losing my mind? Like how I've already like, I've heard all of these words, like I can remember all of this stuff. And it was it was like time had skipped back, or fast forward it back to the future. I don't know. It was super weird. But it like freaked me out. Because I'm like, what's what is happening? You know, the first like skip to be
00:45:55
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Um, and that, so that was like my only time with time where I'm like, okay, this is super strange. Like this is like this thing is happening right now. That is apparently already happened. What I was told cause I was super curious about it was that sometimes when you're in a certain resonance, you can essentially in a future life, you have lived that experience. And so you tap into it.
00:46:24
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So you are experiencing or you're feeling into another dimension, which dimensions can be right on top of each other, right? Like we can have all these things happening all around us. We're not perceiving it, but it's right here. I've experienced stuff like that. I'm not sure if I've ever told you, I can't remember, but I've experienced multiple times.
00:46:50
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where I think I suddenly out of nowhere drifted into without even trying a parallel experience where I'm the same person, but the person I'm with, like it's a different, my home is different and the people I'm with are different, but it feels just as real as you and I. I was not daydreaming, I was not in a dream. I was actually very focused in doing other things and all of a sudden I was in a different space. It was so weird.
00:47:20
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So weird. I've had multiple experiences like that, but I wonder if I've had clients tell me things like that where they are like, I, it is me. It is very vivid. There's, you know, different, same, same, but different basically. Yeah. Uh, in the, the situations around, um, but yeah, that's, it's fascinating. I parallel is universe or dimension is what I would call it.
00:47:49
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Um, someone that I work with said that you can have multiple incarnations or carnations, right? And I guess, uh, kind of, and you, you might catch a glimpse of it when you're sleeping or something like that. Yeah. This one in particular that I had, it was not, it was, it was an alternate reality. And the way my guides, my guides described it is, you know, every time we make a decision, there's another dimension that, that exists.
Parallel Universes and Quantum Physics
00:48:20
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So now let's say you marry person A, but if you didn't marry person A, you would have married person B, right? So in the life that you're aware and conscious of, with person A, you're in this life and having this experience, but that experience also exists over here with person B. You're just not consciously aware of it. And I think what happened to me, those times that happened, it's
00:48:46
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I slipped into that and I experienced that for a moment and then I came back out and was in mine again. It's almost like the awareness or the consciousness was like, all right, let's go over here and see what's going on over here. And then it came back. Every time there's a pattern. The shark talks about kind of like where I was talking about Kennedy and Eisenhower. Well, there's a version of reality where Kennedy wasn't assassinated.
00:49:15
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You know, and he talks about that. And so like, you know, some of these things are kind of like almost unpleasant to think about like, Oh my God, there's all these things happening. It's like everything everywhere all at once. And one of the ways that he describes it is like, you know, the TV where there's all these channels, they're all playing. There's only one box. So you're getting that perspective, but there's these other things that are happening simultaneously. Yeah. In the moment. It's a lot to take in. I know.
00:49:46
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as I've kind of started to learn more and more about these things. Again, you get back to the connection with just physics and our quantum physics and spirituality converging. So I think that's, they go hand in hand. You can't dismiss one or the other. I'm trying to think, getting back on the extraterrestrials and things like that.
Chris Bledsoe's UFO Experiences and Government Research
00:50:12
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I did want to bring up, are you familiar with
00:50:15
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Chris Bledsoe and his story. It sounds familiar. Explain, tell me what the story is that I might remember right by the story. He wrote a book called UFO of God. Doesn't sound familiar to you. He's a guy, he's a former pilot and he had an experience. He was fishing with some friends, I think in North Carolina.
00:50:44
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He had this experience where he saw these like bright orange orbs. And so he has this experience. He like is fishing. He had walked up to his truck, had this experience, and then walked back down to the river. And he walked back down the river, the people that he was fishing with, like five guys or so, I think his son was there as well. They all saw what he talked about. So they all had this experience.
00:51:16
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And so he wrote, he's like an upstanding guy. You ever hear him talking, there's, there's a lot more stuff you can watch with him now. He reports it, but isn't who to report it to, you know? And so he ends up reporting it to, uh, move on, which is the mutual, uh, UFO, that's like a civilian research group.
00:51:45
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And they had just gotten this contract with the Discovery Channel. And so they go out for this TV show, right? So this is maybe 15 years ago. And they go out and they give him a lie detector test and he, like, I think he fails the test. And so they kind of treat him different after that. They don't treat him very well.
00:52:12
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But they're investigating his claims, and as he's talking, he had essentially, they put him in hypnosis, and he had been abducted. That came out. But in his waking mind, in his consciousness, he had a dog kennel. He saw a little child-like alien. He describes everything. He's very articulate, very well-spoken. But they basically confront him, and they're like,
00:52:42
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It's just, this test came back and you're lying. And there's a lot that goes into a polygraph if you're familiar with them. Anyway, this guy, when you hear him talk, he sounds completely authentic. And so he gets sort of trashed in this TV show and disrespected. And because of where he is in the South, you know, like the Bible belt in the sense, like,
00:53:11
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Your word is very important. And if your word is questioned or dishonored in any way, it's a big deal. So he was sort of ostracized from his community in the worst way. And he had all kinds of issues from that. But lo and behold, someone in the government from NASA goes, hey, wait a minute. What's going on here? So they come to his house. They start visiting with him. CIA starts visiting with him. He is now.
00:53:39
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a government, he's either a contractor or an employee, but he is heavily researched because he has so many experiences and the phenomenon is what he calls it. I think he's the most documented person. He's constantly interacting with galactic consciousness and like a woman, I think he calls her the lady, but they're just
00:54:05
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He went from being this pariah, which is so funny because like the one group that you think would sort of take his side, like dismiss them. And then, you know, the government comes in like, wait, what's going on? And so it's been a period of about 15 years now. And actually his son has a podcast. So his son was young at the time and he was scared by what he saw in like,
00:54:29
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know, psychologically, the whole family went through a lot. But the son now has a podcast. I'll plug it because I think it's interesting. Bledsoe said so. Oh, that's fun. But his dad went from being like this liar to being this, you know, well documented government worker for the intelligence agencies. So when anyone ever addresses any kind of skepticism, I'm always like, Yeah, okay. Don't, don't pay attention to it. But someone is paying attention to it.
00:55:00
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And there's all these things that happen.
Misinformation and Spiritual Awakening in Extraterrestrial Community
00:55:02
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And so he's got all this advanced equipment around his home that's installed by the government, basically, to monitor all these things because they keep happening. And he's done some miraculous healings and all these things. But UFO of God is his book. It's a fascinating story. And he's been making the rounds on several podcasts, but he's a super fascinating guy to look up if you
00:55:31
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If you hear this topic and you're unsure of something, look up his story. Yeah, I don't know. It's fascinating. There's a lot of evidence. And don't just look mainstream. A lot of what you're going to get mainstream is curated with a certain agenda. So make sure you're looking at alternative sources.
00:55:53
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Do you want to outline what that sigh of or that misinformation is just to give people a little bit of that? Well, I think we kind of did earlier. I don't think there's certain groups that don't want us to know what all we're capable of and the technology that we already have. And there are others who, and they're also trying to keep us from our awakening and from coming into our power as spiritual beings. It's all connected.
00:56:20
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You know, as, as much as I just kind of excitedly told you about Bledsoe's story, I'm also concerned by who he's working with and other groups that are involved with that and the information that comes from that. So you do have to be careful. You know, you have to really discern for yourself what is truth. Um, but just as a general rule of thumb, if it's, you know, very fear based, I would be very skeptical.
00:56:48
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And also, sometimes it gets too naive as well to believe that everything out there is good, I think is very naive. And I highly recommend people open their eyes and see what's around them. I liken it to imagine if you're walking down New York City and you're walking around and just being in your power, eyes wide open, aware of the good, the bad, whatever's going on, but being aware and appreciating the good and discerning
00:57:19
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what you do or don't want in your experience is so much better than walking through New York City with your eyes closed and being very afraid or just being ignorant to what's around you. So, you know, open your eyes, look into all of this and really, you know, dive in to find out what truth might be, you know, because it does affect our everyday lives, even though we don't realize it, it's there. Yeah.
00:57:45
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Well, some of the best advice I've heard when people are talking about this phenomena is to look up. Yeah. That's a great way to end this. Look up. Yeah. All right. Well, we did it. We dived into the topic of aliens and UFOs. I think we kept it pretty good. So we'll end there. Yeah, you did good, Jim. Thank you, Jen. And we'll do it again. Sounds great.
00:58:15
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