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The Spark It Podcast EP 19 Pt. 1: KK Rap Soldiers │ Patrick Chandiga Justine
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In this episode of the Spark It Podcast, we sit down with the KK Rap Soldiers, the hottest rap group in Koboko, Uganda. Known for their hit single “Nobody”, which gained over 17,000 YouTube views in just six months, the trio shares their journey from dance crews to dominating the rap scene. Fadsam Faddy, Jaden Jecko, and Koffi Li open up about their struggles, inspirations, and what it takes to hustle as young artists in West Nile. From boda-boda hustle to music dreams, discover how they balance passion, survival, and culture in shaping the sound of a generation.
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:11
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to the Spark 8 podcast, where we explore stories, experiences, and insights that spark a fire within so you can go and make your next big move.
Spotlight on KK Rap Soldiers
00:00:25
Speaker
I'm your host, Patrick CJ, and today we are turning up on the hottest rap group in Koboko right now, and that is the KK Rap Soldiers.
00:00:37
Speaker
Their hit single called Nobody has racked over 14,000 views on YouTube in just four months only. And it's more than a song, it's a statement from the gentleman we're hosting today.
Meet the Members
00:00:52
Speaker
And we are joined by three voices that are behind The KK Rap Soldiers. yes We have Fad Sam Fadi in the studio. We have Jaden Jekko in the studio.
00:01:04
Speaker
And we do have with us also Kofi Lee from the KK Rap Soldiers.
Journey and Struggles of KK Rap Soldiers
00:01:08
Speaker
yes We will explore their music, their struggles, and their impact, and also why the youth of West Nile are vibing to their hit single, Nobody.
00:01:22
Speaker
KK Rap Soldiers, most welcome to the Spark It podcast. Thank you so much, my guy. Yeah. We're really so happy. We are actually so glad to have this time.
00:01:33
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ah I think, Joko, also you too. So happy. Which means when you came like this, we are so good to go. Anything that came across ahead of us, we are good. Yeah. You're most welcome.
00:01:45
Speaker
Thank you so much once again. Yeah. You're all right, guys.
Backgrounds and Personal Insights
00:01:48
Speaker
kind For sure. And ah like... I'm really so excited that you guys made the time to come and have this conversation with us, you know, today at the Spark It podcast.
00:02:05
Speaker
You guys are the hottest group in town. Yeah. But for someone that maybe might not know, who is Fadsam Fadi, who is Jaden Jekyll, and who is Kofili? So I'm just going to give each one of you to say something.
00:02:20
Speaker
Yo, what's up? Big shout out to guys outside. ah You know, the person behind the scene is Fad Samfad Walele, the Rav Masin, as you know. yeah People used to say, huh? Also Walele, the same name, right?
00:02:33
Speaker
yeah yeah Yo, yo, yo, big up to our fans outside there. My name is Jordan Jeku. Arabity game from Keki Rap. Souliazim, Rere Kuta, boy.
00:02:46
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Yo, yo, guys, as usual, you know, it's your boy, Kofi Li. Niro loka kua.
00:02:54
Speaker
how do i that mother wego mad We go do.
Challenges and Resourcefulness in Music
00:03:01
Speaker
it's It's just like a minute or less in and I can already feel the vibe.
00:03:06
Speaker
yeah And why the people of Koboko are vibing to the song and everything that you guys do. um Welcome once again to the Spark It podcast.
00:03:18
Speaker
Yeah. um I thought we could start this conversation by first going back to 2021 when you guys formed the KKRAP soldiers.
00:03:31
Speaker
I'm just wondering what led to the formation of the KKRAP soldiers. I will start with you, Fadi Sam Spadi. It's okay. So... You know, the concern here is ah we used to be like our dancers.
00:03:45
Speaker
ah Before we became in the music industry, we were dancers. So we we started dancing in 2018, something there. ah no ten ten but something like twenty eighteen is something there So we are good in dancing. We come with so much training also around the town.
00:04:01
Speaker
Yeah, we can move to Congo, those sides of Maracha. Yeah, and also across South Sudan, we shall move only for dancing. But later on, when we see the things are just keeping on changing, changing, changing, and you also we are growing.
00:04:15
Speaker
So we are like, hey guys, If you can do like some things like this, because we like hip hop normally, you know, there are some people who actually we follow, like the Migos, those are our aspirations, eh?
00:04:28
Speaker
They are ones who inspired us. So we normally like those hip hop very well, and they those of Kali Krav Jones, Judas The Raph Knowledge. We normally do those things, the freestyling, as we keep on dancing, eh?
00:04:41
Speaker
But later on, we came up with the mind like, hey guys, If you can dance like this and you can freestyle something like this, very sweet, nice like this, why can't you try one song and we see? Have we seen?
00:04:52
Speaker
So from there, we started, we we have nothing, but at that time we were mainly in the group, so we tried to contribute. Without that money for the dancing group, we have to contribute that story of us because since we said that we are an artist, so we have to go and try.
00:05:08
Speaker
So when we went the studio, We tried for the first time and the thing moves good, the song is meaningful. and So people started now. You see, also we get our luck from the studio, right from the studio.
00:05:20
Speaker
You guys, you are doing great. You people, is this your first time or you have been here? We are like, is our first time of coming to the studio to do such a thing, but the thing is okay. It has amazed a lot of people now. We were like, ah guys, go ahead, continue, you know.
00:05:33
Speaker
That encouragement is the one making us to be who we are like right now. So yeah, after doing that thing now also, they were like, we have to do more. That thing also gave us the courage to do more. After that, we came for another one. We controlled it.
00:05:46
Speaker
We had to use foreign beads. That time, we didn't have enough capital. We were just relying on foreign beads. That's why I figured, like, ah take a look at our platform, like, we wanted to see most of ourselves. They are there, not there.
00:05:59
Speaker
because there are foreign beats and we cannot put it on YouTube everywhere to stream. Yeah, we are using someone's beats. So, like right now, you can only see like few inside our channel, platform.
00:06:11
Speaker
It is because others, like even 10, 10 songs even, they are all foreign people they died like that, you see?
Evolution and Dancehall Influence
00:06:19
Speaker
Yeah, they died like this because, but we can we can just sell it like locally here, but you cannot put on something which you can own on YouTube like platforms.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yeah, so those are the things. That's why up to now we are like this. So we go with the hip hop, with the hip hop afterwards. Like in 2020, that's when we started the now music industry. Now reaching like to 2024.
00:06:40
Speaker
This duration like of three to four years, you know so? Yeah, so we are in hip-hop. It's doing great, people are liking it, but you'll find they will not be calling us for performances.
00:06:50
Speaker
Now they will call us, now what do we do? We move for the parties and what you also have to do, we are like, ah now since people have gotten to know us, we have the, any song which we produce, we have to go and share to the liberals around.
00:07:01
Speaker
So since people cannot like get outside. Yeah, so we do those things, that's why also we started now catching fire around the home. You see? So after when we started catching fire, so that's when you we started moving for souls, for souls, for souls. And then there when we get like a capital whereby we can go and get our own beat, that's when we started now.
00:07:21
Speaker
Yeah, like we have like currently like five songs now, which is yeah now ours originally. hey So when we do that thing like ah for this duration of three to four years,
00:07:35
Speaker
We are not seeing change, but people are actually respecting us with the hip-hop, you know? Here, when you do hip-hop, people fear you so much. And as the rap machine and the rap rebel and the rap mechanic, you see this gomezo, gomezo.
00:07:46
Speaker
This gomezo is very bad and marvelous, you know? So this thing, people love us anywhere we go. We are just like that. And also, the other thing people also like from us, we hustlers.
00:07:59
Speaker
yeah We cannot depend, we are on bikes, we are hustling on the road, seriously. So when that time came, also we also go full force. That's actually what we do for ourselves. That's why we are somehow becoming right now, okay as you can see now.
00:08:13
Speaker
yeah So reaching like 2024 to 2025, around September there.
Success of 'Nobody' and Future Plans
00:08:21
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So we sit down, we come and we sat down, are like, ah guys, now since we came,
00:08:28
Speaker
Since that year up to this year, we did not get anything. And yet our way of marketing, our way of source performance is very low. What is really going, what is really taking place? What is it really like affecting us, you see?
00:08:43
Speaker
So that thing made us to sit down. And we discussed, we were like, no, this time we have to change because those of like ah the likes of Justin Cool, these are the guys who came before we yeah after us. They the ones who came after us.
00:08:57
Speaker
It's those of Alexo who started when we are dancing. Yeah, but those of Justin Cool plus others who hit today, they came after us, you see. Now that thing started us, we started now cooling down and we started now to ask ourselves what's the problem so that we correct.
00:09:13
Speaker
Now, when do we come with that thing, So that thing came up to our to our mind when were doing also another hip hop. So that thing, when we were doing the hip hop, were like, ah guys, but for like from this we have to leave. We have to leave, in anna focus on now, and dance all things, because now since hip hop is doing like this, we have to focus on dance, or something which is a very, can access like ah ah disco places, can so many parts of the of day of the places, yeah where but people can feel okay. That's when that magic came.
00:09:47
Speaker
I don't know even how, and even, Even if you ask me how that song came like this, is like that. But you we are truly that we have found where we fitted. So we are going to continue like that.
00:10:00
Speaker
Yeah. So we made we made that thing before the new year, like we released the song, ah like when the new year is almost like remaining like one week towards it. Yeah. So the song didn't boom, but we know it is a hit song.
00:10:13
Speaker
It didn't boom, but it didn't shoot the video. So at that moment, so what do we do? We went. wendy buck I I uploaded this song slowly, slowly, slowly, because we don't have a blogger, we don't have anyone to put some music.
00:10:27
Speaker
Yeah, we are ones doing for ourselves. Yeah, so I tried those things slowly, slowly, slowly. So when I put the song there, it relaxed there. The song, I am sharing it, but canno of it didn't catch fire.
00:10:39
Speaker
So from there, like, reaching like to January, February. almost too much. too much ninety hour That's when and we sit like, ah guys we need a video.
00:10:49
Speaker
So that's when we try to connect with my guy in Arua. We're having a such song, let him first listen. The song a guy was like, this song is going to boom. Even if I like or not, that song is going to catch.
00:11:02
Speaker
So from there, ah the guy, should I go deeply to the expenses of the video?
Music Video Production and Impact
00:11:08
Speaker
How? hey
00:11:13
Speaker
It's okay. So since that time we have small capital, but those ones which we are collecting from the source, these are little source which we have, we we we are not like sharing money.
00:11:24
Speaker
And so we go because we have unity, we can understand ourselves. That's also the advantages of growing together, you see. When you, since they're in childhood up to now, they will have dirty words, dirty mentors of understanding, right?
00:11:39
Speaker
yeah So we move together on that thing, we understand ourselves, so any money which we collect rich we collect like from performances, we but don't have any amount of sharing.
00:11:50
Speaker
So what we have to do, we get the money we keep, so if there are other things which need the money in which can help also the brand, we we are only picking for that specific reason. yeah Not like ah we go, we sell, take yours, take mine, take...
00:12:05
Speaker
Those things are not there. So that's why that thing worked, worked, worked, done it and later we collected like, ah we collected, we organized, it reaches to any extent whereby we can organize our show, right?
00:12:15
Speaker
So we tried to organize a warno our first show in Busia. So down the deep, deep village there. Yeah, so that's also, it's costing, it's like 1.2 something.
00:12:26
Speaker
So from there, the soul moved well, everything okay. yeah So we collected money, though the profit was less, but we we did not complain because we got the profit done in negative, you see?
00:12:39
Speaker
Yeah, it worked. So from there, we're like, guys, we get this money like 1.8. Yeah. Apart from now, which means the profit is something like 800. So this is the profit. So guys, let's plan immediately for the video.
00:12:53
Speaker
Yes. So from there, Immediately we started now making the collaborations of the video, where to shoot. yeah as we We keep on now like searching for the places. That oh that guy now is the one who looks for the places in Arua. We went there, but we normally move in the deep places.
00:13:10
Speaker
That's the thing which also costs us much. yeah so that video the guy was like ah he wanted to do for us with like 600 so we're like we're beginning we arere upcoming and i got your contact from one of my friends like this he said you are you're a good guy so you can understand yeah so the guy also understood us everything moves specifically okay so we went weren for the video We spent like three days there in Arrua, so we are in the rent in the lodge, whereby also it is costing, so from that place to the village there it attend needs transport, so the total amount of that video which we spent is actually like 1.5900.
00:13:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's 1.5900, which is not even too much, but on our side it's too much because are head down. Yeah, we are head down. But it is something which also we know that it's going to refund our money back.
00:14:02
Speaker
So after when the video was so good, perfect, we give the guy real time. We're like, we don't want hurry, let him go and do by his time. Everything let him just take slow and do. If he's ready now, let him send and I see.
00:14:16
Speaker
So that's why the guy, will we leave him and like ah we didn't shoot the video. We left him just to do his things there. And after when he's done, he called He was like, the video is ready, ABCD like this.
00:14:27
Speaker
The other balances, and then I sent to him. So he came from Maruadilla to Kobago to send us the song. And after singing the song, But even that song, in fact, it is lacking some of the scenes inside.
00:14:40
Speaker
sa Suppose we need some scenes which is indoors plus ah the street, what do I know? Due to the money challenge, we stopped with only two... That song is only for two places only.
00:14:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's only for two places now, the data videographer you know uses data his knowledge tornato to to also make that thing look so nice. Otherwise, what we are expecting very big on that song.
00:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, so in fact at the end the song looks okay, everything became good.
Friendships and Creative Synergy
00:15:09
Speaker
And that's where now everything started. Now when we started marketing, the song blew up from the video now. That's where now the song became everywhere.
00:15:17
Speaker
The song now is everywhere, everywhere you go the song is. Even one of my guys recently, he was they went to the side of Sudan deep. They were like, even and they are coming from nowhere, they just hearing the song.
00:15:30
Speaker
So people are crazy about it. So when someone came with such a thing, which means everything is moving, okay, and it is God's grace, which means God has planned this year to be for us.
00:15:41
Speaker
Now, for life to be continued. So I said, not let it down. You have to bleed talk. Yeah, so that's how nobody catch fire. Yeah.
00:15:51
Speaker
And you guys have blown. Yeah.
00:15:57
Speaker
Yeah. ah Honestly, you you have blown. And your story is a special because ah the three of you, the three of you grew together. Yeah.
00:16:09
Speaker
Yeah. together You guys lived together. Yeah, even in school all together. Oh, you went to the same school? School, yeah. In fact, yeah yeah we come to find this one. This one used to study in the village.
00:16:19
Speaker
When we the primers, was me with this guy. Yeah, we competed at the same school. So we grew together. But this guy, we came to meet at secondary. Yeah, come we came to meet at the secondary level.
00:16:33
Speaker
So that's when now the principals also became so bondily. Very nice, yeah. We keep, that's how it is. That is very interesting. so So you guys...
00:16:47
Speaker
literally have been friends for almost all of your lives. That is it. That is very interesting. Yeah. And and maybe i have a question for you. and And like looking at the story of how Rap Soldiers came to be as a rap group or a musical group, I think right now ah you do more than rap.
00:17:11
Speaker
Because I think there's already a little bit of maybe R&B that you guys mix with the rap. Yeah. Those things are there. Any kind of beat, in fact, we can fit there.
00:17:22
Speaker
e With any kind of style we can fit. And the people will like it. People will like it automatically. Yeah, that is the advantage of rap. Rapping, in fact, can go with any kind of beat.
00:17:38
Speaker
Yeah, it is now how you play with it. there twist it, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. and And so for you, when you guys came together, ah who who initiated the idea of saying you people should come together?
00:17:51
Speaker
Was it you? Was it you or was it him? We knew everything. that That's why we left him to talk. We have nothing to say. So he's... We have nothing even to say.
00:18:08
Speaker
The issue is that time, Because the time when you met and we when we had done, there was something which came up. I came, was like, I was the greater, I was the greater among these guys.
00:18:23
Speaker
hey Even and if I was taken to the studio, can do better than them. So they were like, you will fight, you will not defeat me also. I'm also the baddest, do you know me? yeah So that's how the thing started. Yeah, very cool.
00:18:35
Speaker
Yeah. yeah and that is out That's how things started now from there. That's when we ended up in the studio together to try whether we can meet, we can be, but maybe match together.
00:18:47
Speaker
Yeah, and indeed it worked. yeah ah Something you said that I'm interested in. You said you your life was one of better. So you guys used to do hop battles in the Yeah, rap battle, just face to face battle. I have my group, just also his group.
00:19:03
Speaker
So that we battle. We battle. That thing. And then the thing comes apart from there. Interesting. and And is that like something that strengthened the relationship that you guys had together with him?
00:19:18
Speaker
Yeah? Interesting. That's nice.
Life Before Music and Balancing Responsibilities
00:19:23
Speaker
That is very nice. And I wanted to ask you know um to ask you in particular, and maybe you later, ah what did your lives look like before the music and before the dance?
00:19:38
Speaker
ah love you My was just... I'm a family. I'm a farmer. I always deal with digging with my mom because I lost my father since when I'm still young.
00:19:49
Speaker
So i stayed I grew up with my mom. So he's the one who even paid my school fees, what, what. Up to now, we are together. So at that day, now better. At this time here, I see my life better with the music now.
00:20:01
Speaker
So it means I'm coming up. It means if I made it, we are going to be together with my mom. Like the way last time he appreciated me, he's the one who said, that ah, Jekko, if God is the one giving you this talent, because people of those days, they say that you've been an artist. It means you have entered to be juju. But my mother is the one who said, Jekko, if you want to do music, you better do gospel.
00:20:25
Speaker
So we started up with the gospel. So after that, Tuana Ganaro also came up with it. So after that, maybe what changed my mind to now with this crazy music.
00:20:44
Speaker
That is very interesting. Yeah. ah so So for you you, were a farmer farming with your mom andy and now you are a musical artist and you know you said yourself like ah your mom wanted you to do gospel. How how were you able to navigate to that?
00:21:03
Speaker
I can never say that much. So it means because of my friends now. Because of my friends so My fans, my fans, they are ones who that they ask, Jekko, you try to change also.
00:21:15
Speaker
You try to change like the way other friends of viewers are doing. So that's why I come up with just other things. And still the gospel didn't die. We are going we are going still for it.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah. You know, any song which has message, vital things inside there is the gospel. no Not like that. Yeah. So but can we cannot live. Also, we are still also under God. God is with us. No, so...
00:21:42
Speaker
yeah So that is the thing. We are still going to sing those Gospels. Also, the mother of this guy, I appreciate the guy so much. He loves what he's doing so much.
00:21:53
Speaker
In fact, our parents, they're happy with what we are doing. Because those days, like I said before, it's like ah like ah these things. Anyone who started like ah being in the such industry, automatically, will be underwater.
00:22:06
Speaker
and automatically you are a Mami, Otay, Owe, Juju, what, what. They call you with several names. Yeah, and those are the things so which nowadays in the community, I'm seeing now they are getting, they are getting over, they are not even much from people now.
00:22:19
Speaker
Because with most of the people are educated and they know how my life is nowadays. Yeah. Now when they see, and also the second one thing when they see now the way how we are on the road, hustling, doing our things to guide ourselves, now they really they really believe, they're like, ah guys, now what they are doing is they are adding more prayers for us, yeah, to be successful in their life so that they be okay, yeah.
00:22:43
Speaker
Interesting. So we were speaking about, you know, the lives that you guys had before you started music or before you became the Kikirap soldiers. And for ah for for, that is Jardin, yeah?
00:22:57
Speaker
Yeah. For Jardin, you were farmer. How about for you, coffee wow Wow, I used to be a footballer for me. I was a footballer in the field. I was just playing. When I came to school, I go to play football.
00:23:10
Speaker
And then end up when we met up with these two guys of mine. These are the fucking guys in my life. Yeah, they are the fucking guys in my life. Because without them, minus them, my life could have not been this way.
00:23:24
Speaker
They are the ones pull me from the field to come and hold the mic. That's how now we are doing good on the mic and i appreciate them. That's why I like to stay with them. That's nice. That's really lovely. Yeah.
00:23:35
Speaker
So it's, it's, and do you still play football right now? Yeah, i do play, but not all the time because now I have two businesses to run. ah You're the one with the money.
Dedication and Hustling in Music
00:23:52
Speaker
Yeah, he he is the boss. yeah He's the one with the money. that will relax Oh that's nice. yeah How about for you? What was your life before you started music?
00:24:07
Speaker
ah You know, they actually, I'm a guy from Loblé. Yeah, so before we were in Lobelé, so my mother came to town also when I was young.
00:24:20
Speaker
So I grew up in town. ah Like everything we did here in town, so we understood actually. When we were in school, yeah it was my mom and my father who was behind me.
00:24:33
Speaker
I was in school. So the time when we ended up, like, with this guy in the primal. So when I proceeded to my second race, so we met up with this one. Yeah, as the friendship was so tight with that one.
00:24:46
Speaker
So at that time I have no, no, and i edit and ah I have no another thing to do. right I'm not doing anything, but I was mostly focusing on one my school.
00:24:57
Speaker
yeah Because you know when we were young, your father used to ask you what you're going to become, what are those things. And I was like, I have to put my mind to become who I am. But you know also God's plan is different.
00:25:09
Speaker
God's plan is different. So I came to realize that I have talent after when I joined secondary. Yeah, so that's when you are now i quit. it And at that time, my lifestyle is now... I started now hustling on the road when when i I stopped school.
00:25:25
Speaker
Yeah, when I stopped school, when things became hard, after after losing father also.
00:25:30
Speaker
my my father also Yeah, so things become hard, somehow hard on on the side of my mother. So what I have to do, I have to come home and so that we we take the home to together because the we are we are we are we are only two, but it is it is a it is like a me from my with my mother, which is somehow at least can coordinate.
00:25:53
Speaker
So I have to help, I have to help the at least to to relieve that pain where I see, I have to make her happy about that. And as the other things of the school fees is very tight. And right now, even I'm yearning, if any link of the school came back, will just go back.
00:26:08
Speaker
yeah Because right now, I think we are on the music, but also educational, you have to also to, yeah, to ascend it. Yeah.
Inspiration Behind 'Nobody'
00:26:17
Speaker
So that is how it is. But right now I'm on the road. yeah I never give up.
00:26:21
Speaker
I never give up. I have to be on the road to hustle to support the home. And as also I keep pushing the music. Not like that. Yeah. So this is what actually I'm doing.
00:26:32
Speaker
Yeah, like currently. Wow. Yeah, that's amazing. That's amazing. Maybe we could we could move ah to something else, which is the making of Nobody, your hit single.
00:26:46
Speaker
Yeah. your your Your song, Nobody, is everywhere. Literally. You must be proud. Yeah? Yeah.
00:26:56
Speaker
We're so glad, yeah, man. Yeah. So, so, so happy. So happy. And also, the big thanks also take to the producer. You know, this guy came new here. The time when we started being in the mind music industry, it was when he's a guy whereby when you go to pay money, he's like, Kasia, what do they call but you go yeah when you go When you go to the studio, you pay him and you go to the producer.
00:27:21
Speaker
That time, the guy and doesn't know anything about it. He's a church guy. He's a church guy, but he's not a producer. He's just there to maintain his brother's work. Yeah, so you when when now we came back now for nobody, we went to him when he went to the school. Now, finally he returned successfully.
00:27:41
Speaker
So that song, even, yeah we came just like, even, I don't know how that magic, by the way. Even up to now, I'm asking myself, even, I keep laughing, and when even, even, ask these guys, guys,
00:27:53
Speaker
Really, that song, even I don't know what can what what has come to our mind to come with that song. Even we can't fail to give the right answer. Yeah, that thing just came from the rehearsals, when we were rehearsing.
00:28:05
Speaker
So from nowhere and then the thing hit. Then from there we were like, tomorrow we have to go and release. Yeah, something like even like a miracle. From there went, after one to two days the song was out, the producer also has worked on it that you guys come and pick your songs.
00:28:22
Speaker
Very good, unique, everything. Just like that. So I also, tell my, my, my, my also high respect is to him for making him, for making like us to be recognized at large.
00:28:33
Speaker
I also appreciate him so much and we are still living. If, if it we get also something much, you cannot also forget him. You have to give him also something little because he has also played a very big role on our side to be who you are, right? Who we are right now.
00:28:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what I can tell you.
00:28:55
Speaker
that That is actually very interesting because I know you've mentioned already the rehearsals that you guys did. And you know, I wanted to actually ask and maybe understand a little bit what was the creative process like?
00:29:12
Speaker
Yeah? For the song, right? and and and And what inspired it? And maybe i could give Jaden who looks like ram ah yeah
00:29:24
Speaker
By the way, he actually really looks like Rema. This is the Rema of Kobogo. I'm not Oziba. yeah All right.
00:29:37
Speaker
So thank you. For that song, Bey, I really appreciate it very much. Very much. Fad is the one coming up with that chorus there.
00:29:51
Speaker
Fad is the one. For us, are in the coffee, so we just give verses. He's the one doing when he's alone, when we are no longer there. are you He just called us that, guys, you have made something here.
00:30:03
Speaker
You come and hear so that if it's good, we we we continue with it. So he called us. We started listening from him. So he said that the song is nice. We need to practice. I don't know.
00:30:16
Speaker
He come with it. so From where? I don't know. I think the ball was passed back to me. It's okay. You You know? okay corner douglas are not right and you know That thing, you know, I have my beloved wife right now. I'm married.
00:30:34
Speaker
Yeah, I have my wife, which I loved also so much. Yeah. So I'm just thinking of what we have been through when we are dating, you know? Yeah, the lives lifestyle when do we moved, those things, when you moved. I was just refreshing about those things.
00:30:52
Speaker
And then after that, I was like, ah. If there these things is like you, let me try to come up with the song. like i it Let me just focus and see what do we have been doing before and how it will make it to be like a good hit, right?
00:31:06
Speaker
So that's how I came up with the thing. Yeah. So and that's why i ended up singing the song. You see? So those are the things, eh? So my feelings for her is more than anything else. I love her much.
00:31:19
Speaker
ah just wonder yeah dis will turn busy one i do you do nobody comfort me like ever want to see you close to me ah just want fire days blood on you you see to does that thing so my my feeling is voha is more than anything else i love us much So that's why that thing came up. You know, emotional things, you need to see.
00:31:42
Speaker
Like when wanted to derive something for the emotion, you have to be also emotional, right? i On that um mind of being emotional, you will come up with that good thing emotionally also.
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah, that's how the song came up. Yeah. So if I get what you said right is the inspiration behind the chorus, which is magical, by the way. yeah I love the chorus of the song.
00:32:07
Speaker
It's amazing. ah The inspiration behind the chorus of Nobody by KK Rap Soldiers was your wife. In essence, this was a chorus you were singing to your wife and saying, hey, my wife.
00:32:22
Speaker
That's like that. There's no one else like you. Yeah, like you. mean, I have to believe that even though they're there. According to there's no one else like you. Yeah.
00:32:33
Speaker
There's nobody like her. Yeah. You love your wife so much. love her. Wow. I feel like we all have to start loving our wives. Yeah, do it again, man. You don't need to do it again.
00:32:47
Speaker
Yeah? Yes. Because let's like that is where inspiration to do great things comes from. And that is another way of making her all so happy. She'll feel happy. If she was thinking like a woman going outside, now so if zla she was like thinking like, i wanted to go maybe i'll outside for another one, she's like...
00:33:03
Speaker
If this guy can sing for me a song like this, can do for me something like this now, who am I to go outside to cheat? You see? So can't do that thing. Also, that thing is also another security to keep your home. You see?
00:33:15
Speaker
Yeah. So that's how the thing is. So it's this is very interesting because now I start to look and listen at nobody from a completely different angle.
00:33:29
Speaker
Now I see it as a message from the husband to the wife saying, there's nobody like you and I'm going to love you. I'm going to keep you. I'm going to provide for you. I'm going to protect you. ah I'm going to be there for you.
00:33:46
Speaker
yeah Yeah, you're like my wife, I am your soldier from the KKRF soldier group.
Influence and Leadership in Koboko
00:33:56
Speaker
but That is nice. I love. I think it's even beautiful. You know, it's beautiful to understand that it is so personal to you. Yeah.
00:34:07
Speaker
As the person and it's very personal to them as well. Because I think like, I don't know if I listened it well. One of you guys, I don't know if it's the Rema guy ah coffee that says he got converted.
00:34:20
Speaker
He's the guy, he's Kofi. So you're actually converted now? but Yeah, by the way. Since I met that lady a alone, that girl really makes me crazy sometimes alone.
00:34:34
Speaker
You know, sometimes I don't have so time to go out, but she can force me. can go because of her. That's what comes in my mind. So I would have to tell her that, man, ladies,
00:34:46
Speaker
lady you have changed me alone i've become a believer with be yeah ah is have gonebelir because of that lady by the way hey sir so when you say you've become a believer what kind of believer like a christian or what kind a believer and liver love believer
00:35:10
Speaker
yeah yeah yeah like You believe in love. I believe in his love, yeah. yeah love I believe in our love, ya like yeah. Wait, so ah you you are married?
00:35:21
Speaker
Not yet, I'm not yet You're dating? Yeah, i'm dating now. yet single. yeah so And that is the person I'm looking to, by the To marry. Oh, man.
00:35:34
Speaker
but
00:35:37
Speaker
Good luck.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah, but I love it. I love it that the inspiration for nobody is very passionate to you guys. Yeah, it which is really good. I don't know what inspired your verse, but it's amazing.
00:35:53
Speaker
Yeah. So my verse is just the because of my mom. o My mom is the one just give me this morality of being an artist so that I come up to mention her name also in my music too and my wife too also.
00:36:08
Speaker
Oh, you married her.
00:36:11
Speaker
My mom is called Akanth with Jenny and then my wife is called Ajonye. that's why I come up with Akanth with Jenny, Pejejeko, Ajonye. It means my mom asks me that where's my wife? Ajonye. It means my mom who loves my wife down with me.
00:36:27
Speaker
My wife helps my mom a lot. That's why she asks me that, Jeko, where's your wife? yeah
00:36:37
Speaker
So he wrote the chorus for Nobody and you did a verse and he did a verse. Yeah. And it's such an amazing tune. I love it. I love the song.
00:36:48
Speaker
And I think later you guys are going to perform the song.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, so I think, like, you know, you guys have made the the message that you wanted to send very clear, yeah which is for you. You just wanted to, ah with Naobadi from Kekirap Soldiers, for you, the goal of singing as Fad Sam Fadi is to tell your wife that you love her so much and there's nobody like her.
00:37:18
Speaker
You're willing to protect her, to provide for her, to be there for her all the time. And for you, you're like, mom and my wife, you mean everything to me.
00:37:30
Speaker
You mean everything to me. Yeah. and And for him he's like, you know what? It's you I want to marry. Yeah.
00:37:40
Speaker
No, that's amazing. Honestly, that's amazing. And I'm just wondering, like, um in Koboko, You guys are the hottest ah musical group right now.
00:37:51
Speaker
What is being an artist like in Koboko?
00:37:57
Speaker
you come again and Yes. So right now, you guys are the hottest musical group. Koboko has a lot of musical groups, duos, and you guys are trio and very many others.
Local Challenges and Solutions
00:38:10
Speaker
What is it like being artist here? How is that life different? oh How is that experience different? How is the feeling different? oh You know, some people, normally do the things like, they didn't do the things in the way that some of the others are like, right?
00:38:29
Speaker
Yeah, there are other artists who really have, that there are some people really, they have that ah intention zone of being an artist, but that knowledge not there. Yeah?
00:38:40
Speaker
That knowledge is not there. So you'll find at the end, They'll be just there messing around. When they even sing, however songs they sing, it will not make some people even feel okay.
00:38:52
Speaker
They're not yeah even trained. water was Sometimes they are now blaming the others. Like, ah why is it that people are not playing our songs? What, what, like that? It's because the song quality is very low.
00:39:02
Speaker
And it is such people who doesn't have that mind of singing, but they are just there, you see? Yeah, they are just there. And truly, if you really wanted to become like an artist,
00:39:13
Speaker
Those things are supposed to be there. And the hard work also pays. ah Hard work is another thing. ah Things like concerning the industry, there are many. There are many. And for you to become an artist, there are many sides which you need to to be tackling.
00:39:27
Speaker
You have to hustle. You have to be smart. You have to provide anything concerns in the industry for you to be like you're an artist, right? And you take a look of the artist here, for them, you'll be there calling like artists, but even if they say that this is the artist, even you, you will not even feel like ah it's spoiling our name, you see?
00:39:46
Speaker
According to the way they dress, how they express themselves in the street, word to word, those things also. Also, are the ones affecting like mostly here. right? The other one affecting here.
00:39:58
Speaker
So, like when we started now the industry, now these are the things which also, me, I didn't into go for for for for school or like a music is school.
00:40:10
Speaker
These guys even, they didn't. ah For us, we start k we started coming up with our brains because of aspirations from others. yeah at the Other artists which we like so much, they the ones who now make us now to be like this.
00:40:27
Speaker
And also in the mean i mean the industry, also or the same industry, as they said, that the most thing is the smartness, hassle for yourself, those are so many things which we are we are we are tackling, the 70% of it.
00:40:42
Speaker
which I can just say that we are doing our level best, which is also okay from others, which can even can derive that's different from others. Because if during the work we are dirty, so people really know that these people are hustling to support their brand.
00:40:56
Speaker
And later on, when that time came for like ah for that for the people to come and see now who the artists are, we also go full force whereby they will then say that, These guys now have money. kube The money is not there, it's not much, but it is how now.
00:41:12
Speaker
Yeah, you express, yeah. So that is the thing. wow So I wanted to add something to some mar on what you had said. You know, in this business of music, that is a big business. That is an industry. You know, in industry, you work out with products. yeah You work out with products. How you come up and how you sell your products, it is how you come up. Minus selling the probe products or marketing, you just remain how you are.
00:41:40
Speaker
That is what music is. me yeah Actually, thank you for reminding me on that, you know. We are many here in Koboko actually.
00:41:50
Speaker
Let me say Koboko, Uganda, South Sudan, because we are Kakwasalia, there are many artists here. Even if you compare Koboko with the Arua,
00:42:01
Speaker
Nowadays Koboko has a lot of artists which are doing greater than the other artists, right? ah And the other things which is normally like liking, seriously. You'll find these artists, these artists of Koboko, they'll have good songs, they'll have anything to do like concerning the music, but you know sharing is something. You'll find an artist, a big artist is moving with a flash.
00:42:27
Speaker
Anything which you find, the man the the songs are in the memory card. You will go and say, this music is on the libraries for free, what words are they? You see?
00:42:38
Speaker
Those are the other things which is affecting here, locally. And the other thing is, It's a how now. They express themselves like, ah you know, when they are like ah moving on the, they are shabby, very shabby, very dirty. Let me be strict.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah. It's not that because maybe we are talking because now we are somehow, but no, I have to speak the right thing. Yeah. ah Maybe let me get this clear. yeah What you're saying is,
00:43:10
Speaker
Most artists in Koboko are dirty. they They don't present themselves well as musicians. Yeah. Like, a yeah, like um there are some, there are some.
00:43:24
Speaker
There's only a few. Even others, does when you, you like, and anything which is called, like the artist that needed to come there, the way even they go there, even cannot please others, right?
00:43:35
Speaker
Yeah, because like being an artist, first of all, is the smartness. That's the one thing. yeah So if you are smart, which means your brain always going to be smart, you'll do something good. So if you keep yourself dirty also, which means your mind will be dirty, you'll be doing something which is also not good. yeah So those are the things which affect them. They are good, but now the others who are now sharing the songs, they don't know how, how they don't have even a single smartphone.
00:44:01
Speaker
And they call themselves artists. For them to have a smartphone is the tag of a war. Anything they got is for drinking. Money which they get, they can work, but drinking alcohol is everything which they have normally.
00:44:13
Speaker
But the other thing is concerning, like, I got this money, should I use it for maybe what, what? This thing which can support my brand, not there. Buying my dress, at least I look good, not there.
00:44:25
Speaker
So what they do is, the songs will be on memorabilia. What they know is, after saying, the songs that's around, the places which they're around, when they hear the songs blowing, they're okay.
00:44:36
Speaker
So they feel so okay with that. So not knowing that there are other people from Sudan, which is they may need your songs. Well, you see, they may need your songs. They may need their home songs.
00:44:48
Speaker
Yeah. So those things are the one affecting also the other guys here. Yeah. Let me follow up on something ah that you said with regard to music distribution, yeah which is a very crucial thing. And so You said a couple of things. One is that most music ah artists or musicians in Koboko are unable to distribute their songs, right?
00:45:17
Speaker
ah Whether it being locally or nationally or even globally, right? Internationally. yeahly Yeah. And one of the things that you attribute that to is the fact that they do not invest, for example, in gadgets that they might be able to use for distribution of their songs.
00:45:34
Speaker
For example, having smartphones and then maybe using that as a way to create, let's say, a Spotify account or maybe a YouTube, you know. Even a Mia Barton, they not have. Others, they don't.
00:45:46
Speaker
A Mia Barton phone, they don't. Now, it makes it difficult. Now, you'll find them, they'll be making like hit songs. It'll be difficult now for someone from camp to access them. Now, that guy will be the one to come and look from person to person, person to person to reach you, you see, which is also affecting.
00:46:04
Speaker
Other people are here that doesn't have even a single button for the communication. Yeah, it doesn't have. So you guys are you guys ah musicians from Koboko.
00:46:17
Speaker
Yeah. You you have learned a certain way of presenting yourselves to people in Koboko as kicker up soldiers. and you understand what the context is when it comes to the music industry in Koboko, what would you say is the problem with other musical musicians in Koboko who you say are dirty, who you say do not invest, for example, in simple gadgets like a smartphone, and they do not invest in distributing their music, and they are instead investing in alcohol?
00:46:56
Speaker
and stuff like that. What is the problem? Yeah. Even up to now, I feel to understand. When you go and ask, they cannot even give you the right thing. You know, because the time when you go and ask them, they'll be when they will be high now.
00:47:11
Speaker
They cannot also understand. But there are others which normally when I sat with them down and I sit, because my my my my past priority is to tell them that, guys, the first thing is life is the hustling. No matter which kind of work you are doing, but you have to hustle.
00:47:27
Speaker
You have to hustle. Even if you are doing something, even you are carrying and dirty things like even those rabies pit whereby they can get you 500 ceilings per day. Work. Work.
00:47:37
Speaker
As long as it's getting for you something which can make you feel okay, you can go. Even if you like push someone's things on the road, you can pace. you can pay Even if you do what can help you do that work.
00:47:49
Speaker
The other thing islessness. The guys are failing work too much. You see? Yeah, because I know if i if you could be like other guys, like ah doing butter, butter work, doing butter, butter work, if you could be like other guys by now, since we have made a hit already, we should not be there now.
00:48:07
Speaker
You see this thing? So since we know that Bada-Bada-Ga is where it brought us, it it is the the main point of our work where it brought us to where we are, and the up to now we are still depending on it, on the other sides of our work, so we have to push until we find the other one which is also somehow yeah As we climb the ladder slowly, slowly like this, until you climb the one which you need.
00:48:32
Speaker
So the other thing which also I see commonly is just the laziness of the other guys. ah They are not lazy. And there are others who, when they produce like a hit the song, when the song trended, will find at the end the other song will be difficult for them now to... The other song which can catch at least to back up, this one will be hard. You'll find this guy will just die like that.
00:48:52
Speaker
You see? Not for bad. We are having them here. But me, I was just telling them to be, now because of that thing now, anything now you go for the performance now, other people now are like talking like, ah guy, you are like that, you are like that, you are like that now.
00:49:06
Speaker
That thing also makes you to lose like the courage of being an artist, you see. Now you feel like now, your music is the like nothing now, what you like that now, can make you also to be what you're doing now, nonsense things, you see.
00:49:18
Speaker
Yeah, so there' that it is because now they refuse to hustle. If they could be hustling for themselves, they will do that thing. They are depending now on what they find.
00:49:29
Speaker
Like ah the music is my way of now getting something, you see. And there are others also here like whenever they we are called, you know, our promoters here are funny. The other thing is the promoters, they are funny.
00:49:41
Speaker
Yeah. As we are growing like this, you know, even since when we are growing, it is what even went through. But when we are now selling our market, we are like, guys, and We cannot reject this, we have to go and let we know when we are going to tackle these guys, when we are going to be tight on them. you see Now when we are coming up, we have to first give these people away because somehow they are here like a promoters, they are making us to be known. right yeah So at first we pass through such things whereby someone will call you
00:50:13
Speaker
and said that he wanted to give you like 100,000, always like 350 at the end after the show, this guy will not finish the balance, you see. Yeah, most of our money remained with these guys and we didn't care.
00:50:27
Speaker
So we are like, next time he's going to be there because we we are the murder murder, we go murder them, the KK Rav soldiers, which means murder murder. Yeah, they are going to come back to us. yeah They are going to come back to us they going to come back to us in the time when that time came.
00:50:43
Speaker
Yeah, so where by now, that time with Salbina we settled, okay, now you come to us, our man is ABCD, if you can provide, okay, if he didn't, you go, right?
00:50:55
Speaker
As we have our limit, this is the limit, if you cannot afford this one, you cannot go for that. So this is the limit, if can afford this limit, so that we help you, you provide it, and we go for your soul, right?
00:51:06
Speaker
So the other thing is this thing which is killing, which is killing other guys of, ah other fellow artists of ours. Yeah, you'll find it even interesting whereby someone will be going there with only alcohol.
00:51:20
Speaker
You buy for me any analog alcohol, I'll perfume for you too. Any small event you go, without you even being mentioned, without you planning for anything, you have to go and perform it. That people should recognize you as president, you see?
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah, this is what is happening here in Koboko. That's why it leads to flop of some of our big, big artists, which they granted before us to be now nowhere, you see? So that thing pained me so much. It's not good.
00:51:46
Speaker
It's not good. Like even sometimes I go to him, I i talk to him muchly, but now since i don't know, how his mind now is ah about cannot even come back.
Concluding Insights on Work Ethic and Success
00:51:56
Speaker
Now it's like now coming back to the music community hard, you see.
00:52:00
Speaker
So these are the most things which are affecting like our artists also here. That is interesting. i I wanted to do a couple of follow-ups. Number one has to do with the something you said to do with you know musicians not investing their resources wisely, but also the thing to do with work.
00:52:19
Speaker
And I genuinely agree with the what you said that work is work. no You have to work. And you guys don't to treat music as your only source of income, which I think is very smart from, like, literally all of you.
00:52:35
Speaker
And you have an extra source of income ah besides the music. In fact, you say it is your primary source of income. You guys ride border, you see. you You ride Boda, which is, I think, super really good because ah it allows you to be able to know provide for your family, meet your most basic needs.
00:52:55
Speaker
But also as music is also bringing in other money that you either reinvest in music, in yourself or other ventures, which is amazing. And I wanted to follow up with the ah literal jet and to find out, like, do you agree with the characterization from your colleague Fadsam that Musicians in Koboko are lazy.
00:53:19
Speaker
ah Musicians in Koboko do not want to work. Most of them instead are spending their time drinking alcohol. they the They are not taking an example from the KKRAP soldiers who are everyday hustling.
00:53:33
Speaker
you know When they're not doing music, they're riding border. When they're not doing music, they're farming. When they're not doing music, someone is busy playing football and stuff like that and getting paid for it. Would you agree with that characterization?
00:53:46
Speaker
Yeah. How about you? Yeah, it is like that is what actually Fadi says, because, you know, some of our guys, they they work without target. and If you come for something without targeting, it means you're wasting your time.
00:54:00
Speaker
Yeah. They don't plan things for future. They just come like that. They think they are done. But by the way, that is you need to come with the target ah so that if you reach that target and then you decide what to go on again and what to do.
00:54:14
Speaker
So that is what is affecting our fellow artists of Koboko. yeah I see. And I think, honestly, your message is very strong and clear, which is that we need to find something to do.
00:54:28
Speaker
yeah Instead of staying there and doing nothing, doesn't matter whether you're an artist or you're not. Work is work. As long as it is providing you something to provide for yourself and provide for those you love, your family, work is work.
00:54:47
Speaker
Do that work. Yeah, whether it is, you know, doing boda, going to clean toilets, or going to do at anything, as long as you're getting paid. At the end of the day, you're walking out with some mula.