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The Spark It Podcast EP 19 Pt. 2: KK Rap Soldiers │ Patrick Chandiga Justine
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In this Spark It Podcast episode, KK Rap Soldiers from Koboko share raw truths about Uganda’s music scene, self-presentation, unity, and the importance of demanding fair pay from promoters. They hustle beyond the stage (boda boda) to fund better studios, visuals, and an EP. The crew salutes Homeboy Juston’s organizing, urges artists to negotiate together, and teases their hit “Painkiller,” with a video coming. They envision a homegrown label and studio to mentor talent, elevate West Nile hip-hop, and reach international stages. Expect lessons on resilience, friendship, and diversification, plus a call to support local artists and build a sustainable music culture.
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Transcript
Misconceptions Based on Appearance and Location
00:00:05
Speaker
People will say that, this ah, this guy is like from rich family. Now when they went to see where you live, even they'll wonder that even once a time, like ah me, I used to come zi smart also after my work, can dress like in the way that even people can say that, it's like these people from, one of the guys even followed me up to home.
00:00:24
Speaker
I was just there writing, they're like, ah, it's like this guy's from rich family. Yeah, because I'm near to Garibino's home there. Yeah. So there is another guy who who thought Garibino's home is ours.
00:00:36
Speaker
Yeah, he thought I'm living there. I thought those guys, maybe yeah because the wife is a kakwa. Yeah, that maybe Garibino, I'm i' a son to Garibino. Have you seen?
00:00:47
Speaker
So later on, when they went up to the area, da when they asked where's Fadi's place, where's Fadi's home, they wanted to see the home. After seeing Graster's house, they all shocked. They all shocked.
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, but why is that this guy outside there is a good at home there? There is no complaints. providing isn didn't easy rights at home there. Yeah, everything is okay.
00:01:09
Speaker
How am I managing that? It's because of the Bada Bada. Yeah, it's because of the Bada Bada. Me, I don't undermine my work. I respect when I'm in it. I respect it because I know it's something which is helping me and tomorrow is going to help me until I get another one.
00:01:24
Speaker
no like Yeah, so the guys are all surprised. They were like, ah, they were also, they are so active, they are so to see the home. So that's the, that is how we have to do the things, right?
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, you have to, you have to not to prove yourself that you come from poor family also. Yeah. After when you go, if you feel like you meet with the rich people, let them also recognize you as ah it's like, this guy's from rich family.
00:01:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And, and honestly, I agree with what
Diversifying Income for Artists
00:01:53
Speaker
you said. And here's how do I look at it now, you know, based on what you've said and your own experiences, and also honestly, the experiences of other musicians that I've spoken to, is that um artists in Koboko need to learn to do any work that can help them earn a living.
00:02:14
Speaker
Because that can help boost their music, in terms of, for example, if you want to record in a better studio and requires more money, in that case, you have the money to pay for it, you see, from the other extra source income that
The Impact of Self-Presentation
00:02:28
Speaker
you have.
00:02:28
Speaker
And at the same time, something that i've also learned is from you guys is we need to learn how to present ourselves. Because how you present yourself is how people treat you.
00:02:41
Speaker
Yeah. If you present yourself a certain way, people will treat you a certain way. And music artists in Kovoko need to learn that. Yeah. I feel like you guys could provide music artists in Kovoko a masterclass in how to do that.
00:02:58
Speaker
yeah I feel like music artists in Koboko, you need to come to the KKF soldiers and have a masterclass in how to present. Those are the things, you know, but minds differ. Minds are different, by the way.
00:03:12
Speaker
That's why you Homeboy, Homeboy, is our little forum for um but the music artists in Koboko. But he's going through, yeah he's even doing a lot to make sure that the artists will be like in one shed.
00:03:25
Speaker
But you know, the other stubborn ones, where they don't want to be there. But you never know, being there is also a good thing where you will say ideas. yeah So if you could be like, you if you are lost, maybe somewhere you'll come you come to realize, maybe sometimes in that group whereby you'll be meeting different kinds of minds there.
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, also other things which maybe we don't know we shall be getting from them because they are elders, you know. So some guys are notorious for them. They're like, those things are waste of time. They cannot do that.
00:03:55
Speaker
So other things like that sometimes are the ones which are going to bring those people who are really like going real deep on the wrong side. But, you know, sometimes people God has created people naturally like that.
00:04:09
Speaker
There some people, whenever you talk how much, even if you talk wow what, they cannot understand. Until maybe he understands when God is speaking directly to them.
00:04:20
Speaker
Right? When God is the one speaking directly to them, that's the time when they will understand. We have these categories, they are there. So people are different, that's why. That's why things are like that, maybe.
00:04:32
Speaker
But still, with that arrangement of homeboy, I think maybe something's going to be there. There are others who are like that. they want to but They're going to embark. Yeah, to that, they'll be okay.
00:04:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, so ah
Exploitation by Promoters
00:04:46
Speaker
what you said is very interesting. And I actually wanted to follow up on something you also said earlier, yeah ah which is that the promoters in Koboko are preying on artists in Koboko.
00:05:00
Speaker
They underpay them and they overuse them. And yet you pay this so little. You see, that can barely help you, for example, to be able to maybe, you know, invest it back in your music and, you know, become with a better hit next time and stuff like that.
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah. And I feel like music ah musicians in Koboko need to unite and come with one voice when it comes to, know, demanding for a specific prize
Musicians Uniting for Fair Payment
00:05:31
Speaker
cap.
00:05:31
Speaker
yeah and And also, like you know each each musician needs to take a stand. You don't need to accept anything. Yeah. if If you've set your standard and say, you know what, for a show, I need one million oh two million, they have to pay that money.
00:05:50
Speaker
Or you walk away. Yeah. But I feel like the the situation where we have maybe other musicians in Konboko whom you give, what, a hundred thousand and then they accept.
00:06:01
Speaker
You see? Now, what what happens is that they spoil deal making for some of you who have specific standards. You see, because other people will be like, OK, if you don't want, I'm going to the other one.
00:06:13
Speaker
So I feel like you it's it's a very important that musicians in Kovoko unite and the demand for the fair share of of what they are owed when it comes to, you know, shows and things like that.
00:06:26
Speaker
Because so whenever I think you guys go to a show, you bring in a lot of money. for whoever has organized the show, or maybe the promoter who has organized the show. It's only fair that musicians in Koboko are paid good because, you know, they provide a service that is definitely making a lot of money for them too.
Long-Term Vision for Music Careers
00:06:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:06:48
Speaker
ah Me, what I will be saying to the other rest of my fellow artists also outside here in Koboko, Let them have like a tomorrow vision. Let them have a vision for tomorrow.
00:07:02
Speaker
Like, ah where is this music taking me? Am I really going to, who like, let me say, am I going to really build my house like a five star in the next years with music?
00:07:15
Speaker
So what and then how am I going to be successful on getting those things in the music, you see? So those are the things which at first you need to think yeah before coming to the industry, right?
00:07:27
Speaker
Yeah. So you have to think those things after that. So there are others who just think slow. the normal go there. And for us, ah me, i came to realize this thing after when now our balances are remaining with the promoters. And whenever you go, even recently at the end they are fighting with this guy.
00:07:47
Speaker
One almost the fought with this guy. So, which is something is not good. Yeah. Because it's something which we have, what we call theirs, we need theirs, and you have performed the yeah what you did, you have found what you want, so you refuse to refund our sweat back, why?
00:08:03
Speaker
Our remaining balance. So that thing had really caused something. That's why I was like, if that is the thing, So since when we are not sharing our money, our like ah using our money anyhow, so we know that our money should be specific for our industry to support us, to run for other things.
00:08:20
Speaker
So ah we came up here like, guys, if this is the way, how we how are we going to tackle these
Organizing Independent Events
00:08:26
Speaker
promoters? How are we going to make them free us until they accept our prize?
00:08:32
Speaker
So one, we came with an idea of organizing our own zones, right? Yeah, we have to organize our own source so that when these people come and the exact price which you want, they they might abide it, so they have to go with it.
00:08:46
Speaker
Right? So we have started the source and it is working. And up to now, we are keeping on doing the source. Those money which we collected, if we find a profit back to the account, maybe the small ones we get and we use it for our needs.
00:09:01
Speaker
then the others will keep back. So this one made they made also the promoters like when they wanted you people and since you are doing hits, still they will demand you. Even for them to come here is the fans. The fans are the ones demanding them to come and call ABCD.
00:09:18
Speaker
Even if people reject, they'll go. Still, they'll come back, right? They'll come back. As long as the hits are still ongoing, you people are trending, you're doing good. ah they will still come in that amount which you like, they will take.
00:09:31
Speaker
So is the vision which I have. And KK Rap Soldiers also I'm still having a far vision. Like me, I know I came from poor background. And since I came also, stopped the next four. I only completed the whole level, which is nothing.
00:09:47
Speaker
At least if you completed like form six, least there you can say that you are somehow there. Because there you have any access to other things. So I have any vision like ah this music before me starting, before was like coming up.
00:10:01
Speaker
I have my intention on this music tomorrow. I wanted it to help me to do to be successful, do whatever I want. And I'll say that I've succeeded already.
Creating a Music Label for Talent Development
00:10:12
Speaker
And my vision is how, when Kikilabsoda, when it started making like a so-so safe now, our account, I'm to let it somehow, okay. So our next plan is we are going to first also bring in artists, like we are going to make it like a ah kind of label, but in way in an understandable way, right?
00:10:32
Speaker
Yeah, we are going to bring an artist who can understand inside us. Again, I think concerning music, we will be on our side, like production and, uh, and the video is on us.
00:10:43
Speaker
So like when we shall keep on promoting that guy, so and it like ah when he also blew, when he was like, ah needs for so everything is through us. So this division which we have currently.
00:10:56
Speaker
So me also, I thank God that we didn't support, and we did't we we are not supported before and we came Up to now, we are still struggling for ourselves. And you know, when you are self-independent and it you you you you just survive for yourself, you'll be a good leader.
00:11:13
Speaker
You'll be a good leader. You'll be a good person. you Because you know what is bad, what is good, how you suffer to get this one. And how am I going to use it to get this? Yeah, you'll use the things that accurately and okay, which can help, you see.
00:11:26
Speaker
So I wanted to bring these things so that also we can bring the other artists who likes that support. who lacks that money which for production, which is a like a, for those things, wanted also to bring, and they have talent, wanted to bring also in between us.
00:11:42
Speaker
Yeah, so that also they they they go, you know? Yeah, though the other things, we have also much artists here who are doing good, but the issue is visit money. Hustling is hard, everything fine, it's not good, so you'll find Now, we will be looking for money for the products. At least here, they are helping at 150.
00:12:01
Speaker
So other places, 200, 500, 1 million something. And even if we didn't interest 1 million, we are in the 150s. Yeah, we are in the 150s. And our producers nowadays are doing good. If can do something like this, where people can love to outside places, which means our producers are okay.
00:12:17
Speaker
So those are the things which we wanted to do to bring other talent from down. Yeah. And honestly, i think I love how you you guys are not just thinking of the now.
00:12:29
Speaker
The KKRAP soldiers are not focusing on the now. and yes You guys are not focusing on only your current heat. You're looking at the long-term vision.
Challenges in Promoting Koboko's Talent
00:12:38
Speaker
yeah You want to be able to have your own recording studio, so a record label of your own, but you also want to support talent development by basically being able to bring other talent and help them you know have a space where they can practice, learn, produce their own music, but also promote their own music.
00:12:57
Speaker
which is amazing. And I think like what you're doing really ah is is amazing because it it's it's it's amazing because it will amplify the music industry in Koboko.
00:13:11
Speaker
Because I think Koboko has amazing musicians and produces a lot of good music. But the did the music that comes out of Koboko is not adequately promoted.
00:13:24
Speaker
Yeah, to be able to to to go nationally, regionally, and even internationally, you see. And I think like this this vision, my prayer is that it comes to pass because it would be fantastic if it does.
00:13:38
Speaker
Yeah, it would be a game changer for the Koboko music industry. And I honestly feel like if there are other ah musicians in Koboko who feel the way you guys do, it would be a nice thing for you guys to you know come together, sit and see ways of you guys working together.
00:13:57
Speaker
I think it would be good, like really nice. And I wanted to follow up on on something that you said. a little of bit and that he also mentioned which has to do with revenues the money part of it i think it's super important just like you have mentioned that music artists in koboko and any kind of artist diversify their sources of income and honestly this goes even beyond an artist to just another human being.
00:14:27
Speaker
It's just important you diversify your sources of income because it can help you grow. It it can help you have more resources. And once you have more resources, you have more room to play in terms of where you want to invest the resources.
00:14:41
Speaker
Otherwise, you have a fixed resource that you have you have very little you can do. So I totally agree with you. Yeah, I totally agree with you that definitely, you know, like musical artists in Kovoko really need to diversify their sources of income.
00:15:02
Speaker
But also i agree with something you said to do with the promoters, not really treating musicians as ah they're supposed to, because I feel like Promoters in Koboko either really, really undervalue the music artists in Koboko or they do not have enough respect to treat them decently, whether when it to comes to payment and other things like that.
00:15:28
Speaker
Because I feel like if you have a contract and you've signed with this promoter and a music artist, you should be able to fulfill your own end of the contract. As simple as that.
Refusing Unfair Treatment from Promoters
00:15:39
Speaker
Shouldn't get to a point where we are arguing and we are fighting over something that we already agreed on. Yeah. and And I feel like, honestly, I don't know what you guys think about this, but for me, music artists in Koboko need to refuse to work with promoters like that.
00:16:00
Speaker
Promoters that do not treat music artists in Koboko decently. Yeah, you have to refuse working with them. It's only better to do it that way.
00:16:12
Speaker
For real, nothing can happen. But, you know, like I said before, there some artists there which God have created them differently. So you will be there just planning, but there are others which they'll be just making that money.
00:16:26
Speaker
Now, if anything came like, yeah, 100,000, yeah.
00:16:31
Speaker
those minor stuff, their minds will be ringing directly there. they cannot think like, even, oh, I found this money, should I use it for producing another song which also can help this one?
00:16:43
Speaker
They don't sing it for that. So what they only think is that sort is only those stuff. So those are the other things which are also like, yeah. But with a few which you can understand, I think, an egg slowly, slowly they'll follow. So those ones who really like, and they doesn't want, they're the one at the end to to suffer.
00:17:02
Speaker
They the one and the one to suffer and they'll be looking like, ah, how did this guy hit that star? How? They don't know. He went there a lot.
00:17:13
Speaker
He went lot a lot, ABCD, ABCD to reach that star. Yeah. And honestly, I would even add to what you said and say that, ah for example, if most ah artists in Koboko take a stand, a very strong stand against this kind of abuse by promoters, ah what would happen is that Most artists who are established, who are doing good job, when they refuse, the promoters will be forced to change.
00:17:47
Speaker
Because otherwise, you can't organize a show and not to bring those people that would bring the most fans. So in this case, you are forced. Your hand is forced.
00:17:58
Speaker
You have to do the right thing. You see?
Standing Against Unfair Practices
00:18:01
Speaker
And it only happens when you guys, as a musical artist, take a stand and say, no, it's either you pay us this or we are not coming.
00:18:10
Speaker
It's as easy as that. And I think the more artists do that, the more the promoters will start to treat musicians in Koboko decently. And I think the more art the show organizers, the promoters start to pay the musicians in Koboko well for their art, the more you guys are going to grow.
00:18:31
Speaker
Yeah, because now you can have more money to invest in better videos, ah better distribution deals, and stuff like that. And you can have the money now to invest in what you're talking about, recording studio of your own, a record label of your own, and those kind of stuff.
00:18:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what you guys think about that, but... ah is This is what even we are looking into. Me, I'm just happy and I'm just praying that God should keep us alive until maybe, yeah, until yeah we made everything and till the end even, we should not to like develop these certain things of like splitting ourselves or what.
00:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, we have to be together. And we push everything okay. So with what I'm seeing and with the whole, the prayers, which also I'm praying, I think one day, one time, we are going to make this thing and can hit.
00:19:24
Speaker
Nice. That's amazing. ah Do you guys is a see yourselves as activists in any way? Like, do do you ah have any particular social issues that you're very passionate about?
00:19:38
Speaker
I know we've already talked about love and so forth, but maybe issues that are facing the community that you talk about in your music. I think so far, ah my my biggest favorite songs from you guys, Nobody and Painkill, are all to do with love.
00:19:53
Speaker
ah The issue is, like I said before, the other songs we did not get the access is because they are foreign beats, but they are there. They are there, I remember, ah here locally even after where, but there are others which yeah I put on YouTube, but later on I realized. So they are writing copyright, others, yeah.
00:20:11
Speaker
So I have to remove them for the safety of the account. Yeah, so that's why the songs are few inside there. Right now, currently we have like about 18, 18 songs, something there.
00:20:22
Speaker
So... Those things like in the community, yeah. yeah Community, we are okay with the community. That's why and this music issue, this music thing, this dancing thing like i started in the community.
00:20:35
Speaker
At first they were like, ah, we shall be misleading people. So we we are moving today because we used to do our rehearsals of dancing in the bush. even to together with the singing. We used to do in the booths, we'd go in the booths, we'd shout there. So people, ah our our parents plus all the old people, they don't allow that.
00:20:55
Speaker
They were like, you people, you are going to like turn into, you are going to kill people. Then secondly, you people are going to mislead the other children to smoke. People are going to do ABCD. So many things are on us, but we maintain that thing.
00:21:09
Speaker
We have to make sure that they they really have to know that what they are thinking is very different from us. It's what we we are normally not going there to do.
00:21:19
Speaker
so yeah After like two years like this, they came to realize that these guys are doing the real things. Then what they come later on, they're like now guys, they're the ones even praying. You guys continue, keep yeah keep growing, continue with the talent which I see from you people.
00:21:35
Speaker
Keep it up, let God bless you more and more so that you heat, so that tomorrow you become like a mirror. they one day wanted to see, like, ah you people, like, being called international, where, yeah, like, even they started with national, where can you can go the whole region of Ugandans, Ugandan, and also international, so that's when they'll be up there, will be their pleasure, because most of the artists here are told, like, ah they cannot blow, and especially in Koboko, that they cannot make names, they cannot be called international, like, even sometimes to Nigeria, where, where, it is how you put yourself.
00:22:10
Speaker
So, they They accepted what we are normally doing. That's why up to now we are here and in the community we are perfect. and Nothing is bad and we are also there, you know, being in the community, how also you behave, those things, yeah.
00:22:24
Speaker
The behaviors are so cute, okay, fine. Yeah, so those things are the one, you know, to add a place to the community. So also they like that. Even normally we used to go and we do freestyle, they gather, we do those things. you want to Yeah, we made even the others now, even everywhere we go, we'll find any place. A children knows me, you knows this guy. hey but Hey, you'll find when you get them.
00:22:51
Speaker
You'll find they are freestyling for them. They'll be happy just going there. So people might be asking, ah, then Paris, who doesn't know? Who is that? Is that in Diego? Oh, Kofi, oh, Fadi. Yeah. They're okay.
00:23:02
Speaker
With the communities, we have no problem. Yeah. That's why you see us like ah the grace. The grace is a really okay. God's grace is okay. What would people like it. yeah i So why I was asking that question is because for me personally, I believe music is a weapon.
00:23:23
Speaker
Now you you probably have seen you guys mentioned the Bobby Wine as one of your inspiration. ah you You mentioned who is the other person from Jamaica Chronics.
00:23:34
Speaker
but Yeah, as as I think an inspiration. But I wanted to understand, like, when you when you look at, let's say Bobby Wine in particular, when you look at Bobby Wine, um you see he talks about social issues a lot.
00:23:49
Speaker
whether it being politics, whether they' poverty, whether things like that, because ah ah music is a very, very, very powerful weapon. You can either use it to numb the community, to to help them keep quiet and so forth, or you can use it to basically help the communities wake up.
00:24:06
Speaker
wake up to their rights, wake up to the reality, wake up to fight for for what is theirs, wake up for them to resist oppression. Like it's a very powerful tool. So for you guys, how do you use it to address social issues? Because I think there are a lot of issues in Koboko.
00:24:21
Speaker
that are being addressed through music? For example, think your colleague, Homeboy, that you guys are working together, ah he is into social issues a lot, whether being poverty, what is stuff like that. yeah For you guys, what do you address in your music?
00:24:39
Speaker
yeah The first song we came with Dunyana. hey So Dunyana, it also means a lot. That's why the song we hit the first time. Duniana, it considered a lot of things like... ah a you You tried to re try to sing the song.
00:24:58
Speaker
So... to sun niana joe re kupureo you wo rosa roka na daga joe settania do mar on na job yquila baggiiada nau den unu lu mea du die but i yeah ni ni The world is great place. world is great place.
00:25:22
Speaker
The world is a great place. The world is a great place. niana ajo heyana yeah <unk> nana ajare ku youma That's the chorus of the song. I cannot go for the verse.
00:25:37
Speaker
im not That song, especially, also as has a lot of message inside it. Yeah, like ah my chorus, my verse, it has a lot also. His verse has a lot.
00:25:49
Speaker
Talking about also juju things where people are talking so many things inside. Yeah. I think I can get even from what he was singing from the chorus. I can see themes like unity, addressing things like hate, ah love and all those kind of things. normally when we came with such songs, we started with those songs whereby can attract the community.
00:26:15
Speaker
Yeah, so when we attracted the community, so even that they the ones like, we need to organize the show at the area, they go and see. They are the ones even supporting, they went and paid the money to go and see their home people, you see?
00:26:27
Speaker
Yeah, that's love. ah They are the ones doing that thing, to show how much love, the love there is now, they need us to prosper. but Yeah. So we have those songs, those meaningful songs, and that's why we twisted this one, it's because we wanted now to catch up somewhere.
00:26:43
Speaker
hey And also we started to go back and also do that thing. That's how music normally does. Yeah. okay So let me hope you understand what now. yeah Yeah, I do. I honestly, like you guys believe music is very, very dynamic and very, very context is specific. and the context changes. And that means the type of music you do changes.
00:27:09
Speaker
It's just like trend, yeah you know, it changes with the trend. This time we have a piano. Now we have a pro beats. We have what is so much going on. Yeah. And stuff like that. So now, um,
00:27:23
Speaker
This is probably something that I would want to know from all of you. I will start with you, Jaden. ah What are the most important lessons you have learned since you guys started, you know, your music to now where you are right now?
Lessons Learned in Music Careers
00:27:39
Speaker
What are the most important lessons you've learned that you would want to probably anyone who is listening to us also to be able to learn? So, good. That one, I learned a lot.
00:27:51
Speaker
Staying with the people is very good. Minus these friends of mine, I cannot be like this. So they the other one pulling me up. Sometimes for me, I drink, I do everything.
00:28:05
Speaker
But for fatty, you cannot drink, you cannot do as well. He's the one advising me that, Jekyll, this thing you can take but take it with care.
00:28:16
Speaker
This is not the way you take, what what is the one advising me with this a friend of mine, so that I learn a lot from friends. It means music. If you listen, someone who gives you advice, you need to take it seriously.
00:28:30
Speaker
You need to take it seriously so that you prosper. I agree. Yeah. How about you? Wow. Wow. Wow. In the music, you know, I have learned a lot, a lot in the music. By the way, by the way, if you want to grow in this world, want if you want to grow a good person, but guy, stay with people, stay with people. will give you different advices by there. If you're lost, you come to line and that is it.
00:28:55
Speaker
m How about you? Well, yeah well For me, as you shall say, you know, i've like also me, I've learned a lot because for them, they have also their are different friends where do I also have my different friends ah due to some of the stuff which they are taking.
00:29:15
Speaker
And me, I'm none to them. I'm not taking any kind of stuff So they are taking those kind of stuff whereby they have those friends. But what I normally do is also I have to stay with someone who is a ahead of me, who can give me advice whereby i can also change my life to be like the one of him.
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah, those good, those are positive positiveive minds. ah And as also I started getting from him where i hit he with those friends of mine, where he can tell me, feedback me with ah ah good a good advice where I can help me tomorrow.
00:29:48
Speaker
Also, I cannot let these guys of mine also to be like also like deeply on those things. So what I have to do whenever, when I see they are like ah going so deep, I'll tell them ah this one is too much.
00:30:00
Speaker
Now like this, like this come back. Yeah. nay So like you are doing such thing, which is not like ah pleasing me, can just go direct to you. Even if you, when I'm angry, what, what, because we know now our characters, we grew together.
00:30:14
Speaker
I, and they know how, when I'm annoyed and how, when I'm not annoyed. Yeah. Because when I'm annoyed, also my speech is different. I talk to them very harassing, harassing me, harassing it.
00:30:25
Speaker
Yeah. So, Those are the things which, like, ah also I do, but, then like, a what I was, I passed it to Rolso.
00:30:36
Speaker
it It is also so hard, you know. It's also hard sometimes to control such kind of brains. So hard, but i'm key I'm trying my level best to make sure that we be together until we hit that bell. Yeah, until.
00:30:50
Speaker
Because right now, even if, when you feel like, ah With too much too my taking of this thing, it can lead to something else. yeah Yeah. It can affect, even if you one person is the one doing, can affect the whole of the the crew.
00:31:05
Speaker
You see? Yeah. Even I say that I'm innocent, I'm not there, but still, I'll be i'll i'll be done carrying KKRUP students for theory, it is those theory. So I don't want that same.
00:31:18
Speaker
So what I wanted to do is for for the betterness of us so that we go good. Yeah. So those are the things. That's amazing. I think ah for me, like one thing I've gotten from what you guys said is that it's really super, super important. Yeah.
00:31:34
Speaker
to ah stay well with your community, with the people, with your friends, with those around you, but also to learn from them and to be open to advice ah is super important because ah you never know, you know, just like how you guys, none of you knew that, you know, as friends, you would do, you know, become musicians and now one of the hottest rap group in Koboko.
00:31:59
Speaker
Yeah, right now. And it's because you guys stayed well with each other and you each had a trust the ah for each other. You trusted that, you know, you have best intention of the group in mind.
00:32:12
Speaker
He trusted you have best intentions of the group in mind. are You guys trusted him too. And I think it's like, for me, it's like we have to learn to trust. that other people have best intentions for us, but we also have to learn to be open, to advise, but also stay very well with other people because that's how we get to access opportunities or that's how we get to discover ourselves.
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah. Like really. Yeah. So ah what is next for Kick It Up Soldiers? Are there new collabs, new tracks, new shows that the people of Koboko should watch out for?
Ensuring Fair Compensation
00:32:49
Speaker
What is going on? Well... ah yeah I think right now, if you could be like accepting socials, by now we so not be we are we are not sleeping even.
00:33:02
Speaker
Tomorrow so, tomorrow so, tomorrow so. So the issue is the prize challenge, like I said. So we are now well organized. We are well organized. Anyone who come for us, you have to come to our office.
00:33:13
Speaker
We sit for the prize, we sign an agreement. You want us with such price and we normally see with the range of the places where we are taking us. And the price matters according to place where it varies.
00:33:25
Speaker
So right now, the source are many. The source are many which we are given the deepest already. Even Lubeck, Kerry, where well they have given the deepest already with the price which we like.
00:33:37
Speaker
So there are others which they are still running for us, but they didn't find that chance because of the price. i They still run back and I know they going come back. Yeah. So it was concerning the souls. We are perfect.
00:33:49
Speaker
We are moving so well. Yeah, we are moving so well. And the other thing concerning the heat, Hits are after hits. If you mean like even to produce like EP we can. But it's not according to how are we going to market the EP.
00:34:02
Speaker
How are we going to plan it. I ran up and told me cannot count those these songs with foreign beats. Because those are the wasted songs already. Yeah. It's the wasted songs though. Our plan starts with Hustlers, Pain Nobody, Painkiller. Those are the songs with the studio beats.
00:34:18
Speaker
The only few. So what I was just suggesting is ah if God's helped, release an EP next year.
00:34:30
Speaker
We have to release an EP to back up at least this song sort yeah to make our songs to be like many so that we can access other sides very easily. Yeah, ah those are the things which are like ah currently the song which we released is Painkiller.
00:34:46
Speaker
as yeah It's out now already. Yeah, Painkiller is out now. It's a collaboration from the 70s, the Northern region collaboration. But we normally call We are from West Nile, so it is a Northern.
00:35:00
Speaker
Yeah, the guys from Navy. a So we call it the West Nile Northern Reconnect, which means we are all in Northern. Yeah, so it is a hit song in which we dropped is a collaboration and the video is going to be soon.
00:35:15
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be soon. We are going to drop that and i always thank God for making us to stand as KKRB soldiers and making us to do our things.
00:35:28
Speaker
independently, without the support of anyone. yeah And if it could we be like anyone who will be coming outside to give us support, also we like that. We like that.
00:35:38
Speaker
Who feels like wanted to support his hometown, his home artists, yeah to reach also that next level, but we are also here. They can. For us, we are free. Yeah, we are free to do anything.
00:35:51
Speaker
Yeah. That's amazing. ah If you're watching this, go check out Painkiller from the KK Rap Soldiers. Go check it on YouTube. It's on YouTube right now, yeah?
00:36:02
Speaker
It's a hit song and the video is coming out very soon. Go check it out. Don't miss out. And so you guys for... For the next, what, five years, the plan is you want to work on an a ah EP for next year. And are you planning to do an album or something like that in the next couple of years?
00:36:24
Speaker
ah Album can count. Because right now, you see, even most of the songs, even the songs which even I wrote inside, I just left them, I packed them like that. Because now, any song which I wrote, I'll just, when, after me, like, ah coming up with an another song, that song becomes like, i just, I just ignored it, like, that song cannot make something.
00:36:44
Speaker
So I started writing another So this what normal I do. I packed them. There are many there. But I didn't go and record, you see? So it will make us easier to go back and even do those things than just to come from studio.
00:36:55
Speaker
So it is easier. i think albums can cant be definitely there. Definitely we can do. Yeah, yeah. That's amazing. Honestly, I can't wait to stream your album. ah Maybe on a Spotify, YouTube, or maybe Apple Music or Amazon Music.
00:37:11
Speaker
You know, hopefully you guys will have your sound all over the place. And so anyone anywhere can stream it. Let them also know that there are no rap machines outside. There are also rap machines from then from Uganda, Northern, Koboko.
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah. and So the rap machines are here, people who can rap like I said, they cannot breathe. People who can also, the rap mechanic who can work on the rap, which is not well-made.
Ambitions for the Next Five Years
00:37:41
Speaker
We have the rap rebel. You know how rebels behave? those things. so it does need Okay, that is very interesting. Now, as we we wind up, I wanted to ask, you know, Kofi, where do you see yourself in five years from now?
00:38:02
Speaker
And what do you want to be remembered for? Wow, wow, wow. You know, in this whole five years, I've seen a lot a lot of change in me. Because when I started, for sure, um I was not like this. And because of these two colleagues of mine, yeah have made at least life better sometimes for myself. ah And I'm not stopping here. We are still continuing. We got started and we are moving on. That's why we are loading many hits.
00:38:29
Speaker
Yeah, we have a big vision by the way, guys. yeah We are planning for the big concept, which is coming, which is coming. I cannot tell the year, but it's on the way coming. That's a great plan. We want to make it out. so Amazing. that Is it this year? The big concept? The big so concept. It will be next year.
00:38:49
Speaker
will be next year, but it's on the way yet. Okay. That's nice. That's amazing. Okay. ah How about you? Yeah. Many just support.
00:39:00
Speaker
When we get something just very, so that we support our family members, our our our friends, was even our how are people here. If money is there, we can mean to build some schools, what, what, for our area people, for our districts, what, what.
00:39:15
Speaker
So our plan, we are focusing on it. It's only a God's plan. When full winning money is there, I hope we are going to be all right. Yeah. so So for you, you're looking at, you know, being able to be in a better position of supporting both your music, your family, ah yourself, but also being able to have resources that can invest, let's say, in the recording studio.
00:39:39
Speaker
ah That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah. And the idea of schools is definitely amazing. Yeah. Yeah. How about you? Ah, the next five years.
00:39:51
Speaker
hey Me, I'm seeing stars on my eyes now. What I'm seeing is only stars. Me, I just wanted to wake up one day just on my, inside my house, or aszza maybe outside looking, the five-star house. I was like, really, I've worked something like this.
00:40:10
Speaker
And later on, you know, and These things are like that. And indeed, if you like get like that support, if some, like, we have guys, we have people outside there who are willing to take such kind of like ah serious people who are serious on the such career, right?
00:40:26
Speaker
So they are there who can support. If that they are there also, yeah we yeah we warmly welcome them. And the next five years, I think, we shall be international. or me I'm just saying we shall be international, being called to any kind of the country where are we are.
00:40:42
Speaker
Right? Yeah. Any kind of a country where we want, we can move anywhere we want and we can do also what the community prayed for us before we can do what they will be happy for it, that have really sent people, you see, they have really sent people ahead.
00:41:00
Speaker
ah Because they have to also benefit. yeah and They have to benefit that this is their guys who they'll be there together before and now they've made it. Also, we have to make something from where they want it to be done according their way, where they decide what to do.
00:41:16
Speaker
Right? Yeah. This is what I put in my mind. Yeah. But with God's grace, I think it's going to happen. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. As we wind up, what's your final piece of advice to anyone listening to us right now?
00:41:34
Speaker
yeah Yo, yo, yo. Shout out to my guys up but abroad, okay? Abroad or within Koboko. But guys, let's just promote peace and love. That's my only advice to you, my guys.
00:41:47
Speaker
We'll make it one love, okay? Thank you. about you? Yo, yo, yo, this is Jared and Jake once again. really appreciate you.
00:41:58
Speaker
My G is outside there. I really appreciate you, the time that you have given us at this time. So, big up, My G. The name is Alon. The name is Dave Kajar.
00:42:09
Speaker
bla the news yeah little the name is this kind' and well you i do Yeah, how about you? What's your final you know piece of advice?
00:42:21
Speaker
I'm really, politically, I'm so happy for for for this important time where you called us to to take this thing. ah My appreciation goes to you for the first time.
00:42:34
Speaker
Then the second one also to my big fans outside there who give fucking clap of my hands when they see me outside. They are happy. Also, I really thank them so much.
00:42:45
Speaker
And also we are here to let them, no, to not let them down. We are here to make them happy. And I really know that they have supported really the guys who they want and what they are going to be tomorrow.
00:42:57
Speaker
So big shout out up to everyone. I love people outside there. You have to keep the love, the unity, everything. We keep together. We want to be together. Anyone who is like ah messing out with something, if you know that he's going very badly, please and please just go and talk to him because this person is not like any animal whereby you go and turn his face back and can go back.
00:43:23
Speaker
You have to move. Don't don't don't just that i get tired. Keep disturbing them until will change. because men's people are people. One day they will change and you'll be surprised.
00:43:36
Speaker
Yeah. So this is my piece of advice to also the other guys outside there. Yeah, we did that. too ah Much respect to everyone outside there. Thank you.
00:43:47
Speaker
Thank you. Uh... ah Thank you very much, ah the KKRF soldiers, for coming to the Spark It podcast. We really appreciate you. This was a great conversation and it was good getting to know you ah a little bit more than just, you know, your hit singer.
00:44:05
Speaker
So this is really awesome. And ah for anyone... um who is listening to this, I think for me, ah the key takeaway from this conversation is that we need to learn how to present ourselves because how you present yourself is how you will be treated.
00:44:22
Speaker
So you better really present yourself well. Present yourself according to how you would want to be treated. And another thing i think for me as a takeaway from this conversation, we need to learn to stay well with one another because that's how we learn.
00:44:36
Speaker
That's how we grow. And that's also how we get, you know, some constructive feedback. And we need to be open to learning, which is amazing. And I think another thing for me is work is work.
00:44:50
Speaker
We have to find any kind of work. As long as it helps earn a living, let's do some work. Yeah. So thank you guys very much for these amazing lessons.
00:45:01
Speaker
I think anyone listening to this will take out something. Thank you for sharing those insights. To anyone who has not streamed, nobody from KK Rap Soldiers, please go to YouTube and stream this amazing song.
00:45:13
Speaker
You won't regret it. And thank you once again for coming on the show. And... My advice or message to anyone would be that support your local artists.
00:45:24
Speaker
Support the KKRap soldiers. Support any local artists you know. Share their work. Play their music. And that's how we can build a very strong music industry here in Koboko, in Uganda, in Africa, that can be able to influence all the countries around the world.
00:45:42
Speaker
So thank you very much. Until next time, this has been the Spark It Podcast. Take very good care of yourself. Bye-bye.