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OPE S2 Episode 58 Top 5 Movie Franchises with Dan Kotnik
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! This week as voted by the listeners we talk our top 5 movie franchises with Dan Kotnik! Some picks were expected but others were surprising!
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Podcast Introduction and Guest Announcement
00:00:31
Speaker
Aloha and welcome to a new episode of the AHANA Packers Edition podcast. The podcast where, well, we're out of ideas for the off season, so we're going on with our top fives, and we're joined today by Dan Kotnick. Dan, thanks for joining us today for another Rip Roaring Fun of Top Fives as we go into our top five movie franchises. And we're going to start it off the bat.
Welcoming Guest Dan and Episode Context
00:00:53
Speaker
Joe, you had some quick marching orders for this one, so why don't you lay those out for everyone? Well, I'm going to take a step back and say thanks for being here, Dan. Like I said in the pre-show that if but and with we're all kind of busy at the moment, but I knew there'd be one person that would say yes. And I was like, all right, well, I'm going to shoot him the DM first and go from there. More like he couldn't say no to this offer. but not ah Not in the Godfather way either. Just there's no way in his body would let him say no to this kind of episode.
00:01:23
Speaker
Right, exactly. This is this is the the like lowest common denominator cheese that I will never pass up. like You're exactly right. if some If there's one person on Packer's Twitter that will always respond yes to something like this, it's me. I held no shame to that. But beings that last week was Father's Day, and I know you two are the the father type. um You know, I haven't met the right one to give me that option yet. So, you know, I'm still holding out hope and getting close to my 40s here pretty
Father's Day Experiences
00:02:00
Speaker
quick.
00:02:00
Speaker
But anyway, Mike, I know you were down with the sickness because of the presence that your, your kids decided to give you, but did you guys enjoy your father day time and, and did you have, you know, fun with your kids? Dan, go for it. Oh, yeah. No, I had a blast. I got to. Well, so I was unfortunately the the Celtics couldn't give me the best Father's Day present and win and sweep on Friday when I was with my entire family. I had to wait till Monday when I was all by myself and got to watch it with my dog sitting on outside. That was that was fun. um But no, got to do some golfing on Saturday with my dad and rest of my family and the baseball game on actual Father's Day with my son. and He didn't like
00:02:46
Speaker
bully hate it so like I will take I will any activity I can take my son to that I love and he's just kind of like and he doesn't like melt down I'm like great win awesome absolute win no yeah despite the illness that was bestowed upon me as my father's day gift from my children it was still a great day like Dan said no complaints anytime you can spend time with your kids and as long as they're having a good time we'll shovel through and find a way to have a good time like made it away
00:03:16
Speaker
and And that's not to say I didn't do anything. you know i I was with my dad. We went for a road trip to check out some things. As people may know on the podcast, I am a bit of of a genealogy nerd. So we went and scoped out some areas for some stuff that I did some research research research on, which luckily is it within a decent area so he just went along for the ride with me and we just kind of took a you know half a day road trip just driving around into the country so we did some fun stuff too but I know you guys have kids that are young enough that it's kind of the fun time to have father's day and tell they hit like the teenage age where they just
00:03:54
Speaker
don't want to be around and, and yeah they' they're still, in they they're still in the, uh, macaroni tie as a father's day gift era. was i in stage yeah yeah Yeah.
Defining Movie Franchises
00:04:08
Speaker
So, but as Mike said, this is our, we're continuing on with our top fives for the off season. This one is top five movie franchises. So I put a couple of rules in place for. uh our little thing here one is obviously there has to be at least three movies to be considered a franchise for this so like we were mentioned earlier uh dan said you know while top gun may be a good set of movies they're outside of being a full franchise right now or i said you know like the mighty ducks has three movies you can consider that a movie franchise
00:04:50
Speaker
And rule number two was just that if it made it easier for you to make the list, you could break like if you wanted. You could choose Marvel as your franchise, but if you wanted to, you could break it down to, OK, Thor has enough movies. That's a separate movie franchise. I even mentioned and when I sent these guys the rules, you know, there's been like five different Batman iterations, so. You could break it down to like the Dark Knight franchise or the 90s Batman franchise. Obviously, the newest one with Pattinson can't be considered franchise because we're only at one with him. But, you know, those those were the two guidelines I gave these guys for creating their lists.
Honorable Mentions: Dark Knight Trilogy
00:05:35
Speaker
So with that said, let's start. Let's start with honorable mentions.
00:05:44
Speaker
So Dan, since you're the guest, why don't you give us an honorable mention? Do you want just one or all of them? Because I have five. I have five. I have five outside looking in that I had like right on the edge. This might have been the hardest thing I've ever done for a podcast. I will. Why don't you give us one right now? Because I'm having a hard time thinking my honorable mentions and I forgot to write them down. Okay. I, I will say this one was literally the, like, this was the bubble team, like last team out of the, of the pick. And it's one that you mentioned, Joe, it was the dark night trilogy. It was really hard to leave that one off, but, um, it was like right on the edge there.
00:06:26
Speaker
Yeah. And those out of all the bad, I mean, I love some of the 90 ones because I grew up with them. The first one was great returns was great forever. I loved forever. I know a lot of people really were bad on forever, but I loved it. And obviously I couldn't stand the Clooney one, but if I had to choose my Batman franchise for movies, the dark night is what it is. And I wish we would have had that. I wish instead of recasting to like an Aflac or something like that, we could have saw the Batman versus Superman with Christian Bale as the Batman. And that but I agree.
Honorable Mentions: Land Before Time Series
00:07:07
Speaker
um That would be an honor roll mentioned. So with me that that would be mine too. It's arguably one of my superhero movies are arguably the best like version of a superhero movie. Yeah.
00:07:18
Speaker
And another thing is I wish we would have got, you know, had, you know, you know, God bless him, rest his soul, stuff like that. But Keith Lezard's joker was amazing. Yeah. Absolutely perfect. Yeah. And it just went downhill from there with Jared Leto and yeah.
00:07:40
Speaker
Mike, what do you got for an honorable mention? honorable mention, I'm going in a totally different direction. Land Before Time. um Okay. First like movie man movie franchise I followed. And I don't even know what number they're on with our kids right now. oh But yeah. yeah ever Everyone knows where they were when Little Foot's mother died to save Little Foot. So yeah. that is is That was our generation's Bambi. Yes. Oh, for sure. Hardcore. Yeah. Yeah.
Discussion on Beverly Hills Cop
00:08:12
Speaker
So that' that's mine. and
00:08:15
Speaker
um Now this one, and now that I'm seeing the lists, These are definitely ones that could have snuck into my top five, but like Dan said is really hard. to um Beverly Hills Cop. I love the Beverly Hills Cop movies. That was during peak Eddie Murphy, you know just getting into the movies, just getting you know his major stuff. and i I'm glad for the Beverly Hills movies for a couple of reasons. One, obviously they're great. I mean, the third one was a little bit, eh, but you know, the first two, amazing. But it also kept Eddie Murphy out of the Ghostbusters franchises.
00:09:01
Speaker
because he was he was the one who originally was supposed to play Winston Zedmore. And I just don't think it would have worked. So and he passed on Ghostbusters to do Beverly Hills Cop. So I'm thankful for that one for. Are you excited about the the new one? The new Ghostbusters? No, the new the new Beverly Hills. I am in a way, I'm kind of shy of for it because of what they tried to do with the TV show that ended up being like a, ah like a no go. But I also heard it's supposed to be more hardcore than all three of the other originals combined. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I've heard too. Real quick, real quick really too. When do you think the last lamb before time movie was premiered? When did the last lamb before time movie come out?
00:09:58
Speaker
Oh, I want to say it was the 2010s. And just because that's they, they are siphoning every little bit out of it that they can 18 I'll go 2018 2016 February of 2016. Yeah. That's 14 movies in total. That is one of those movies that they can hook a new generation every time. So they just continue to siphon it. um So, all right, well, we'll do a couple more honorable mentions and then we'll get into the heart
Honorable Mentions: Lord of the Rings
00:10:35
Speaker
of our list. So, Dan, what was your next honorable? um Right below Dark Knight is ah Lord of the Rings. OK, yeah, I only made your honorable mention. That's crazy.
00:10:49
Speaker
I know there's just it, maybe it's because I haven't watched it in a long time and I need to get back. and because I've been meaning to like, that should have been what I did for father's day was just sit down and watch like all three directors cuts like back to back like you see you in high school. Um, but yeah, I think it was just like, there's only five spots and the five that I had, I was like, it's really hard for me to take You know, it's just hard for me to find a place to put that in there. It deserves to be in a list, but it's like, in terms of what it means to me and how I view it, like in the pantheon of like full franchises, it's like loaded the three Lord of the Rings movies are great.
00:11:32
Speaker
Hobbit, if you want to include that kind of brings it weighs it down just a little bit, but like it's, it's still just really hard for me to, I will say a lot of these, all eyes, like with my honorable mentions, like they're all like one a one B I mean, it's like, right. they They're basically all like on on one plane, but yeah, Lord of the rings, just barely making it out for me. ah Do you want to hear something that could cause a big fight? Please. I don't like the Lord of remains and I don't like Harry Potter. That's fair. Lord of the Rings. Or Joe is just not a fantastical person. I just I don't know what it is. I see my dad loved him. My my sister loved him. I just for whatever it is, I couldn't sit there and get into them. Have you ever seen Clerks two? No. No. OK.
00:12:26
Speaker
One of these days go watch Clerks 2 because Randall in there puts it perfectly when he gets into a huge ass argument with um with a couple of Lord of the Rings nerds. He's defending the Star Wars trilogy versus the Lord of the Rings ah trilogy. And he just basically put it perfectly where it's just three movies of walking. Even the fucking trees walked. ah So, yeah, those those are three that I couldn't really get into. Now, with that said, I can see why people would put that in their top five. That's why I was kind of surprised that it was just only an honorable mention for you, because I know some people are like way I am with Star Wars or people that are like that with Lord of the Rings. I went through a phase. I went through a phase in high school where I was all about Lord of the Rings, man. All right, Kwonosan.
Appreciation for Kingsman Series
00:13:26
Speaker
What is your next honorable mention? Next honorable mention is going to be the Kingsman, actually. okay Oh, I thought about putting this one on my list. Yeah. Yeah. the ah Just missed it. um Really liked the first movie. um like the origin story in the third one i just didn't care for it i understood the story they were telling in the second one but i didn't like how so many of the core characters from the first movie were just like they're gone kind of thing and stuff and it was like i understood that you had to clear the deck but i was like i feel like that's either one of those off screen or it needed a little more build up to it kind of things but it was so close
00:14:07
Speaker
Yeah, I'm with you. The second, the second one is what kept me from like considering putting on the list. It was, it was just like, man, I just felt like a clunker, especially coming off of the first one, which is such a good movie. The first, yeah the first Kingsman is so good. Yeah, exactly. I haven't seen them yet. It's on my list of must watches. But I just the first one is if you want to see Samuel L. Jackson do a Mike Tyson impersonation, you must watch the first movie. Like I said, it's nothing against them. And it's not because I haven't wanted to. It's just there's such a list of shit. Sure. I haven't been able to. absolutely It's just a paralysis. Yeah. Yeah.
Reflecting on Police Academy
00:14:45
Speaker
Well, it everything I am I am a super nerd for when it comes to Star Wars so I provide a pirated Right or ties that above everything else. So I will make a list of okay Well, I need to sit down and watch this movie Oh, they just dropped three episodes of, you know, that back to like, actually i've just got out. god yeah Now I can't do anything for two months. So, um, I do it like Logan. I have yet to see Logan because it just seems like that stays on the list and I just haven't been able to get to it or anything like that. But.
00:15:18
Speaker
I'm hoping to eventually catch the Kingsman at some point to the the first the first Kingsman is like pretty close to a 10 out of 10 like perfect movie in terms of like execution set character like all of it like I'm not saying it's one of the best movies but like it when it anything it tries to do it just knocks it out of the park it's so good So with that said, I'm going to say that one of my next honorable mentions is the police academies. do I actually had to do a little bit of changing on my list. It was originally number five, but then something clicked in my head. I was like, no, the the one that I replaced it with is more with the police academies.
00:16:05
Speaker
You can say what you want about them. They are goofy. they are They can get outrageous at times, but they are still a movie. I can sit down and have it going and not and I can be entertained. because you It's one of those series that It has comedy for two different people, kids and adults. So what you laughed at as a kid, you didn't necessarily laugh at as an adult, but what you didn't laugh at as a kid, you can laugh at as an adult because you're understanding it a little bit more.
00:16:38
Speaker
Now it does have, in my opinion, there are two week movies to it. That's episode or that's a police academy five where they go to Miami, Miami. and then And then the last one I did like six, but those two are the weak ones. Obviously they took a major hit with Steve Gutenberg, not coming back for five, six, seven, but I understand not wanting to because he was wanting to branch out from those movies. So. And it ended up, he didn't really do much. I mean, he did like the three men and the little lady or and a baby and the little lady and stuff like that, but he didn't really hit that start of that. He had hope. Everyone's getting out of the police academies.
00:17:23
Speaker
It's kind of like, kind of like, uh, Estevez with the mighty ducks. Like he can't really exist outside of the franchise or young guns, young or young. than Yeah. Yeah. It's like he went into two roles that just hurt him because he went from young guns to mighty ducks. And now he can't be remembered for anything else, but kind of the same with Gutenberg. And of course, a lot of the cast that they had in those movies really didn't go on to do like major things outside of it. Unfortunately, we're we've lost a good chunk of them now. So, you know, trying to get another movie out of it. I know they've been working trying to work on one for years. They've been wanting to get the original crew back together, but they just they haven't been able to. And I know it's also been talked about as a remake and shit like that. But they did try the series and that really backfired on them, too. So and the cartoon, they had a cartoon, too.
00:18:22
Speaker
All right, one more honorable mention, Dan. All right. I'm, I will, uh, I'll pick one more out of this. that I think is maybe the most popular of the group that I'm leaving out of my top five and.
Significance of Harry Potter Series
00:18:39
Speaker
It is Harry Potter. I am leaving Harry Potter out of my top five. I really, I mean, look, I i grew up with Harry Potter. I read it in third grade, the first one, and then I got hooked. I was a huge Potter head as a kid.
00:18:55
Speaker
the books meant a lot to me. The movies, I absolutely loved all of the movies. Like there, there wasn't ever one that I was like, no, no, thank you. Um, but like now looking back on it as an adult, ah especially through the lens of what JK Rowling has ah kind of become, it's hard to look at them the same way. And, and kind of like what you were saying, Joe, is like, the The movies are like, the movies are fine. Like the books are fine, everything, but it's like.
00:19:27
Speaker
they don't really stand out in terms of like what movie franchises could be. Like they, they, it really just is a, they took a great storyline and adapted it into the movie. And the bet, like the big saving grace is they casted the absolute hell out of it. Like they nailed every casting choice. Um, so yeah, it just wasn't enough to get on my, my top five, but still I think deserved to be mentioned because of just what it meant to me as a kid. And see, that's another one like Lord of the Rings that I figured would hit somebody's top five. It wasn't gonna be mine because I never got into them. Didn't get into the books, didn't get into the movies. But I understand what's their beings that everybody knows what kind of Star Wars nerd I am. I understand there's other franchises out there that do the same thing. and
00:20:16
Speaker
It just, it never hit for me, but I understand what it is. Now I do have to ask before I let Mike do his honorable mention. I saw something, but I, I have no clue how true it is. Is it true? The movie company is trying to buy the right, the whole thing out from under JK Rowling just because of the house. She's. I think so. I think that I've heard that same thing, too. And I think that they want to like they I mean, they want to redo them. they've They've already talked about like redoing the first one. I think they've wanted to do like TV shows. And yeah, I think animated TV movies or shows or something. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think Warner Brothers realize they want to do like polar express it kind of thing is exactly the the the um what's it called the example that was given for the look.
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I think, uh, I think anything with JK rolling still attached to it is going to, is going to come under a firestorm. Yeah. And I understand that. That's why it was like, wow, that would be, if that would be like Disney buying out Lucas films. I mean, that's just yeah that level of thing. But it's also smart because like you said, anything attached to her right now is kind of tainted. So if they could give her a number and say here, Give us everything. We'll give you this amount of money or we'll give you like a 5% royalty or whatever for whatever we do. But you just stay the hell away from us. i think that would Please go away.
Star Wars Prequels Discussion
00:21:50
Speaker
so all right Mike you get one more ah honorable mention before we hit the heart of our list okay this one it's kind of going into the rule that you set out and it's the prequel trilogy from uh star wars and so like it's it's kind of formative in the sense that it's like so it's like i was you know um what was that 98 or whatever right so i was like eight years old when um two yeah when phantom menace came out yeah so it was like i got so caught up in the whole like because my the the one movie my dad and i went to like just the two of us is he took me to the special edition re-release of um um empire strikes back we sat in the front row
00:22:29
Speaker
kind of shat myself a little when the fucking Yeti came out and killed the Tauntaun and dragged Luke away. but this black um But it was so, you know, fast forward a couple years and it's like, oh my god, you know, Star Wars is coming out again. You know, we're the like, next you know, the three of us are in the quote unquote next generation who's like carrying the Star Wars fandom forward. And at the time, like, And honestly, I'm still not a great like source of movie critic you know critiquing. i'm like You're gonna see with my list, there's a very there's a lot there's a certain trend that'll carry through some of the um this the the franchises that I'm attached to. but um
00:23:10
Speaker
I think it was just so fresh, so new. And like it was like it was quote unquote our Star Wars that we could have and be a part of kind of thing. And then as you get older, you're like, OK, yeah, they're not great. you know We have sand. We have this and we have that and all that. But I think why that's why it just missed. But honestly, the nine hours was all worth it just to have fate of the duels. like Yeah. you could bottle Fate of the Duels up and that was the point of the sequels. It was a hell of a point of the sequel or the prequels, I'm sorry. So yeah, the the prequel trilogy is mine.
00:23:49
Speaker
Well, I'm sure Dan and I will be talking about Star Wars at some point in our list. um So I won't get into it too much. and It's a good pick. I will give the spoilers that I didn't break mine down like that. Otherwise I would have like three Star Wars sections and no other. but So when it does appear on my list, it will be as one thing. um But just to say this one thing about the prequels, I had a guy that I worked with years ago say this to me and it really resonated and I thought it was great. this is With the prequels, this was the first time we got to see it actual lightsaber fighting that didn't A, involve an old man in a robot or a novice in a robot.
00:24:36
Speaker
So that alone is just something to be excited about was that part of it. And then as Dan knows, because we've had conversations about this in the past, I've found a new love for the prequels after seeing what the sequels became. so Yeah. do anything dad I mean, I went and saw Phantom Menace when they re-released it ah like a couple of weeks, um like a month ago or whatever for the the anniversary. um And yeah, because i that was i I know I saw that in theaters, but i was i'm I don't have like that memory of seeing it. The first one I truly remember seeing
00:25:15
Speaker
was Attack of the Clones, like I have that memory. So this is like the first time like kind of like remembering to see it. And you mentioned like the lightsaber battle, that that lightsaber battle with Darth Maul, seeing it as an adult when I'm like there by myself in like a big comfy like recliner, I'm like, oh, this is this is what everything like young Dan dreamed about as an adult, like is getting to watch Star Wars on the big screen. Yeah, i and it's it's my favorite franchise out of them all. Now, and that's not to say, like I said, we got our list here, but um so it just. There's obviously there's flaws to it.
00:25:59
Speaker
you know there I can see what Lucas was trying to do with the movies I can see that you know he was also kind of limited with what he could do because he had to pre what the original trilogy was so he had to lead up to the trilogy to and tell a story that way it has as prequelitis, and like there's just certain rays that you just can't get around that. And yeah you know there's we can go days on end about you know what Lucas did and didn't do great, but there are certain points where prequelitis will kill any of the preview any prequel movie is going to fall into that pit. Master Qui-Gon, what's amid a Chlorian?
00:26:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So.
Top Five Movie Franchises Introduction
00:26:45
Speaker
All right. So let's get into the heart of our list. Dan, let's go from five to one. So you're number five. OK, just number five. Right. We'll we'll go like what we did. Or should I go? OK. Nope. Just round robin it. OK.
Top Five: Godzilla Franchise
00:27:03
Speaker
Number five is Godzilla. Okay. Um, now is that original Godzilla or Matthew Broderick? All gods. Okay. all okay includ All Godzilla. Because so I grew up, my uncle
00:27:23
Speaker
had a bunch of the old Godzilla movies on tape. And that like, this was like, when we'd go visit, like, this is back when, you know, there's no streaming, there's no nothing, he just had Godzilla tapes, like, that's what I got to watch. um And then, like Mike said, Uh, I grew up and a Godzilla movie came out right when I was peak, uh, peak child. It is the, it is famously the first movie I ever remember crying in because I was, as a small child, I was like, why does Godzilla have to die? He just wants to go home and live with his family. Um, I watched him go home. Right.
00:28:07
Speaker
i I watched the hell out of the Matthew Broder Godzilla. It's a train wreck, but I still hold a little special place for it. The um the more recent ah mon the in the monster universe that they've started to do, the um like I think it was 2016, the first like godzilla American Godzilla movie in that franchise. And then everything after that has been great. But what really put this home for me was um Godzilla minus one was like a movie going experience for me that sort of it almost changed me hyperbolically like that movie was so good. It was such a good movie and
00:28:53
Speaker
it did it just it harkened like straight back to the original idea of like what Godzilla is supposed to be it's not ah it's not at at its heart and its origin it's not about you know Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla and Godzilla versus Ghidorah and Mothra and everything else like it's It's supposed to be a metaphor. It's a representation like the story of Godzilla is more supposed to be about the people dealing with Godzilla than is about Godzilla and Godzilla minus one was powerful. It was beautifully shot. They spent like no money on it and still made an Academy Award winning film.
00:29:32
Speaker
um I watched it again like on Netflix twice now and it still hits just as hard. like that that That's the movie that really solidified it for me. was like showing that no matter the time or the era, no matter how you want to play Godzilla, is he going to be, you know, like Rocky fighting the Russians or whatever? Or is he going to be like, you know, the a metaphor for, you know, post-traumatic stress disorder and and war and everything? He can be everything. And it's so much fun. And like there's not been a Godzilla thing that I even the show, which was like, man, was still fun to be.
00:30:13
Speaker
involved with and be a part of. So I will put guys on number five. Yeah, I I've heard good things about the newest ones. I really, again, I got a list. I just haven't hit a lot of them yet. um I do remember the Broderick one because I would see it on TV now again and we'd have it flipped on or something. But my big memories of the Godzilla's are the old Japanese ones, where you can see the strings and the mouse were completely off of what the dubbing was. Where he's doing karate moves and stuff. We need double kicks. We need double flying kicks. The gorilla thing.
00:30:51
Speaker
But I have heard the minus one is one of the best movies you could ever sit down and watch. Again, I've got a list I'm trying to work through and it doesn't help that Disney is still pumping out tons of Star Wars and and and shit like that. keep That keeps me away from things. But um no, I think that's a good number five. Quano Mike.
Top Five: Star Wars Original Trilogy
00:31:15
Speaker
OK, this one's going to get me fired. Beat that one. This one's gonna get me fired, but I do have a little bit of a justification.
00:31:25
Speaker
so let me get and money yeah button ready here and So my number five is the original Star Wars trilogy. um and The reason it's a little lower is because someone needs to just lock George in a closet and not let him tinker with shit anymore. Like, okay. So like the one that I go back to at the heart of it is Han shooting first. And you know, like, did he shoot first? Didn't he shoot first? My take on it is he should have shot first because he's a survivor and he's a swindler. He's a survivor and he's going to do whatever he has to.
00:32:04
Speaker
yeah and that's why i never understood the like oh it's the unshivalrous for Han to have shot first i'm like fuck no he's like this dude's here to kill me so i'm gonna get him dead before he gets me dead kind of thing so yeah but it's all of those it's the you know the the anakin's force ghost all that kind of stuff where it's like just leave it a alone but just in terms of like what Star Wars spawned moving forward, you know, how it is still at the heart of it, it is...
00:32:37
Speaker
every nerd's messiah like you know that is the thing that some science fiction aficionados turn to as like this is how you do sci-fi on the big screen and what's sad is with george changing so much of it is so much of it would hold up like it i get it you know you can see that um home one does it move right or it turns too fast or shit like that or maybe the falcon shoots too many times but i mean that original trilogy. I know like Return of the Jedi isn't the strongest, but I've watched the Battle of Endor so many times. um yeah Talk about make you cry. yeah Poor bears. The poor Ewok trying to wake up the other ones. Talking about the space battle. that but
00:33:24
Speaker
but no but I mean and then like and just to like twist it onto like how it affected the the the sequel trilogy to me is it's like okay like I don't like how that all turned out and shit but like what that original trilogy meant when you see the Falcon fly through the freaking sand dune and save everyone and Chewie has to fly it and Ray is shooting the gun like it brought back all the great memories from that original trilogy they're playing the music you know they're playing the the the Death Star trench music as they're doing that sequence that is all because of what that original trilogy set in stone another one of my franchises is here because
00:34:07
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of Star Wars, we have space balls because of Star Wars, like there is just so much content out there that refer and like my Marisol she wasn't like you know she's not a sci-fi girl and stuff but like she watched a lot of Mythbusters and so like I showed her that trilogy so that when she goes back and watched Mythbusters again she's like those are the references that they're all referring to you You know, like, and it is fun. Because, you know, she's like, OK, like, you know, they're all funny and stuff like that. But like, when you see why they're all Tory Grant are making all the grant R.I.P., why they're making all these different references, it's just like, OK.
00:34:48
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great like now i understand like you know a lot of them don't take too much context needed but it does just like just like you said a show on discovery channel where half the guys worked on star wars at some point in their career and then like that is influencing what they're doing on a discovery channel show so yeah that original trilogy stands up and is uh at my number five spot Well, you're safe because at least a major top five. Now we'll, we'll see what happens with the other four. If you put that sequel trilogy in there, then we're going to have an issue, but you're, you're safe on that. Like I said, I'm sure Dan and I will get into a a major Star Wars discussion. So I'm not going to deep dive it at the moment.
00:35:36
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But you can't go wrong with it. And like Dan was saying with Godzilla, George had like a like a zero budget to work with for those movies. And to be able to do a lot of the stuff that he did in those movies, it did it. it It inspired so much more going forward because of the stuff he was able to do. so And to just basically pull it out of thin air. I know i mean, you know he he obviously bases a lot of it on you know like like old samurai and like old you know stuff like that or like old westerns. like it's a very it's a very The plot is you know basic when it comes in terms of like storytelling, but he basically created an entire universe.
00:36:25
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Yeah, an entire full universe of planets of people with backstories and everything. And like you said, quantity, it's like, I just got out of the library yesterday. um The Star Wars book, um from a certain point of view, where it's like 40 short stories um from different people. And it's like, you've created this whole culture where people just want to add story and background into this universe and everyone gets to play in this universe and paint their own their own picture, you know, it's cool.
00:36:57
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It is it's very and and it's definitely something that is hard to replicate, as we've seen with the next ones and stuff like that, that they try to copy it, but they can't because there's just so much magic in it that
Top Five: Karate Kid Series
00:37:15
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it's hard to do. But so I'm going to give my number five. And like I said, this was a last minute change because I really had to think about it and I've been flip flopping. But It's the whole reason why I call Mike Kawano-san, and that's the Karate Kid. Oh. Now, obviously, number three is a little bit weaker, but it's still you know there. But kind of like we were just saying with Star Wars, that has inspired so much with it. I mean, to this day, if you say wax on, wax off, you've got somebody's attention.
00:37:52
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you wouldn't have Cobra Kai, which is a tremendous, tremendous TV show or streaming show. I just saw that Ralph Macchio tweeted a couple of days ago that they just finished up the last season with Cobra Kai, plus the next movie in the franchise. So I mean, there's still a want for it. But, you know, it's ah it's the typical story of a kid that moves into a new area, gets his ass handed to him, and then he finds a way to fight back out of it. And, you know, everybody wants a Mr. Miyagi. What do you think? I hired Kawano. It's sorely disappointed.
00:38:42
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I mean, but i still I still get called Daniel's son. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just it's a great story. and there's I know Pat Morita gave an interview a long ass time ago that they didn't want him for Mr. Miyagi, but he just kept pushing and pushing and and he finally walked in there as Mr. Miyagi and they said, that's it. And and it's just a great movie. Obviously, it's it's like a typical movie. It's not the most realistic that some kid is going to not know anything about karate and in two months is winning a friggin all-valet championship. But, you know, the music, God, the 80s music that runs through all that.
00:39:34
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chef's kiss on that shit, man. because you just you could You could argue that the like plot of Karate Kid set up the plot of almost every Disney Channel original movie of like like new kid, fish out of water, has to learn something new, you know runs into bullies, overcomes bullies. Everyone accepts him and loves him at the end. like That's almost 90% of Disney Channel movies. And and it did have the cultural impact of providing one of the funniest long running jokes in how I met your mother with ah Barney Stinson being a lifelong ah Cobra Kai stan.
00:40:13
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Daniel LaRusso is the worst villain in the world.
00:40:19
Speaker
And I still to this day say the no can defend. I don't care what it is. I will still to this day, know if done properly, no can defend. who Who hasn't going into the fourth quarter of a Packer game and they're up 10 points and you just say, just look at somebody say, sweep the leg. No mercy. Like let's end this sweet. Well, I have, I have edits that I did that was Packer Kai. No, you know, strike first strike hard, no mercy. And so
00:40:55
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I love it. I love it. It's it definitely I flip flop with police academy, but it's timeless. It's just timeless. It's pure timeless. Now that I'm sitting here talking it through, there's no doubt that it it's my number five. So Danno, number four. Number four, number four for me, uh, means a lot to me, um, in terms, talk in terms of like franchises that I am like obsessed with in terms of like lore and backstory and like side stuff and everything. Like this is probably like one B behind Star Wars for me. And that's Jurassic park. Okay.
Top Five: Jurassic Park Series
00:41:40
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Um,
00:41:41
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i no I know the first movie like word for word, beat for beat. I watched it so many times as a kid. um The second and third Jurassic Park movies are all over the place, but they are still like so much for the second one. Everyone wants to rip on it, but Jeff Goldblum. You full jip goldlo purere uncut columbian Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum. um and then like even with the Jurassic World movies like ah a completely different take on it and you know the Dominion kind of Petered out for me a little bit, but I loved fallen kingdom um I'm actually like really excited to see what happens ah with the new one that they're coming out with apparently next year um But like and I mean on top of it too like I think I the movies mean so much more because I just love the books. like i I literally will fall asleep listening to the audiobooks of Jurassic Park and Lost World. like They're just two of my favorite books. I love Michael craton love michael Crichton. i just I just finished listening to his last his most recent book that James Patterson finished for him.
00:42:53
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Um, it was so good. I love Michael Crichton. Um, and like, and just and as much as you, like, you could argue that the second and third Jurassic Park movie, like bring it down. The first one is so effing good that I think it just, it, Aaron Rogers in like 2015 carries this team to the NFC championship game. Um, like, but it's almost like a dividing line of like when you go and watch like any movies from around like, and basically 85 to like 2000. And you start judging their like special effects or whatever. And it's like, it was like a movie that came out like 99. It's like Jurassic Park came out and like these dinosaurs look real, it still holds up today, when you watch it.
00:43:40
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And it's like that kind of stuff and the acting and everybody just absolutely nails every part of it. And it's a murderous row of like talent, you know, with ah Richard Attenborough. um That was my first Samuel L. Jackson experience. Samuel Jackson, right, Wayne Knight, um Jeff Goldblum, obviously, Sam Neill, like Laura Dern. It's just, everyone slaps and it's, yeah, it's still just so good. I love everything, Jurassic Park, All of it is all of it's great. um So i but I will put it for I put it for down the list a little bit just because some of the other titles do tend to drag it down a little bit. But the first one still brings it up. I remember. seeing the Yeah, I remember seeing the first one when I was a kid and scared the hell out of me. um I never did watch the second one.
00:44:30
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but the third ones where they were with William H. Macy, right? Okay. I did watch that one. Yeah. Yeah. And that one wasn't bad. I didn't mind that one. I haven't been able to watch the the lost, the not the lost worlds, the Jurassic world. Yeah. Yeah. but But that's solid. I mean, and who, what else? You got one of the most memed moments from Jurassic park. you know, that gigantic pile of shit. And it just every time you turn around somebody, i thought that out i I thought I thought you were going to say about the gold bloom. Yeah, I thought I thought you were going to say, you know, you're you're your scientists are so preoccupied. Oh, my God, I know this line by heart. Your scientists are so preoccupied that they could they didn't stop thinking that they should.
00:45:18
Speaker
I was talking about the one where they asked Neil and Goldblum about it, where they put Sam Neil on the triceratops, but they photoshopped the triceratops and they put him on top of Jeff Goldblum when he's all wounded in the control room. And Sam Neil is leaning on Goldblum's belly. yeah it's so that just so Like I said, cultural impact. like yeah that And Spielberg says it to this day, all the guys at ILM who worked on it, and it's all captured in that scene when you see the first brachiosaur and none of us to this day say, you know, we're all Sam Neill. That's a dinosaur. that And it you know it's is just awesome. And what I was going to say, Dan, don't worry. I've got several on my list that are
00:46:09
Speaker
okay after the first couple it's kind of like uh-oh what are we dealing with but no awesome pick i couldn't bring myself to admit that it didn't make my top five so that's why it wasn't one of my honorable mentions that three-year-old mike would have murdered me but top but all right mike all right follow that number my number four okay so
00:46:38
Speaker
Number four is Tremors.
Top Five: Tremors Series
00:46:41
Speaker
Okay. Wow. And I remember and so like this goes into the depths of like my upbringing in like media. So my mom like always tried to show me as like many different movies as good when I was growing up. And I think I saw the second one first because we were, my mom was flipping through channels and she was like, Oh my God, there's a sequel. And so we watched like most of the second one. And then we went to blockbuster and found the first one and watched the first one. And my God, like putting
00:47:18
Speaker
but You know, and the whole backstory on it is like, um Universal didn't know how to promote their original movie. ah Kevin Bacon at that time was like, well, shit, here goes my career in the shitter. I've made another, I've made another bust. Oh, shit. And, and it now Tremors is now like, it's just this whole cult following and it like it threads the needle between comedy and sci-fi horror so well and what i did like about it and like i don't know how many people know that there's like five or six of them because michael grosses is like fuck it i'm gonna do it until i die kind of thing and a tv show
00:47:58
Speaker
Yeah, because he just loved being Burt Gummer, which is so funny because the dad from Family Ties is like, yeah, I'm a survivalist. I'm a survivalist gun lover in the middle of but fuck nowhere in Nevada, but with my Atlanta Hawks hat. But it's just such a fun, good movie. The characters are all smart in their own right. Like, that's the thing that I think it doesn't get enough credit for is they're like, nowhere you know they're they're middle of nowhere hicks but none of the characters are stupid in that movie like yeah everyone no one's played like dumb for yeah the kid like the kids are dumb because their kids kind of thing and you know like everyone is the way they are for a reason and
00:48:43
Speaker
and I did enjoy like in the second or the third one they evolved the monster so that like it can walk and then it can fly kind of thing like that and it always was just one of those like it's like an amusement park ride and where it's like it's just different versions of the same amusement like ah the different roller coaster kind of thing it's like the first one's Space Mountain because it's all underground and then you know it goes to Batman because it can walk and so so yeah I i just love the the creative ride that that movie franchise took you on where you're like it's a worm like what is that but they just had so much fun and Everyone who was in those movies talked so glowingly about the experience they had because, you know, it's, you know, kind of like we're talking about, you know, it's in that era where it's still mostly practical shots and stuff. And they actually built like a fucking 30 foot worm.
00:49:34
Speaker
to put in the ground and stuff like that so i mean it's just formative and it does build off of the like okay star wars sci-fi what can we do and there's one movie that's in the middle of those two that's still higher on my list but just building off of that side like i said kind of ties back to star wars it's like this thing from another planet and now you have worms in the desert kind of thing so tremors
00:49:59
Speaker
That's a good choice. I mean, yeah, I'm surprised it made it to number four in a top five of all time franchises. But i like I said, you're going to reevaluate who I am and what you should do with me after my list. But I mean, I have no problems with it. It's so funny that, like you said, that it borders on, you know, horror, sci fi, but comedy when the original intent for the first movie was to be a horror movie. but they couldn't get it done properly. So it just kind of went on. Cause Kevin Bacon and Fred Ward are just too, their roles as Val and Earl, the the two of them have a chemistry on screen that was absolutely perfect for what that movie needed. Yeah, it's, I have no problems with it. I watched the first one. I really didn't get through any of the rest of them cause it's just like, okay, now we're kind of getting a little,
00:50:58
Speaker
But it's it's another one, like I said, with the land before time, they just have to suck the complete as much as they can out of out of the story to just Michael Gross doesn't want to live just on AARP and social security. But yeah, keep those royalty checks coming. So my number four
00:51:27
Speaker
It's hard. This one, I might get a little bit of flack for not because it's a bad franchise, but because I just might brought out tremors, Joe. Like, why are you a worried about anything at this point? Well, I'm not worried because as you guys know, I don't give a fuck what anybody says, but it just in my mind, you see this franchise on like number one, all time lists everywhere. And I love them. And that's the Godfather. ah Now, obviously, I'm not a big number three. That one definitely is weak because they they struggled to do what they needed. And obviously, they couldn't get a lot of the people that they needed to to come back to make it a
Top Five: The Godfather
00:52:13
Speaker
better movie. But but one and two, oh, storytelling, acting. Just amazing, amazing.
00:52:24
Speaker
And I don't know if you guys have ever done it, but there's a version of it that they made for HBO where they cut it, chopped it all the way up, split it all the way around and started from when Vito was a kid all the way until the end of Godfather II. And it's like an eight hour movie and HBO will occasionally put it out there and it's a complete waste of a day if you ever had one. But they they went in and put you know deleted scenes that really filled in some gaps and stuff like that. And it's just tremendous. This is one movie franchise that I can honestly say can never be remade as a movie. But with that said, I think they could do the Mandalorian or whatever style thing to it and make it a TV show.
00:53:24
Speaker
And didn't they start like show of it? On on Paramount, or it was like the no, that was the they did a story behind it or something. What they did with that, I know what you're talking about, was how it got made, how it got made. OK, OK. come But um I think they could honestly do a TV show of Vito growing up in the neighborhood leading up to the first Godfather and then maybe go through that as a remake style. But the movies themselves can never be remade because you're never going to get that back with it.
00:54:07
Speaker
um I have been ah with my wife for 10 years now. We're celebrating our third wedding anniversary in ah just a couple weeks. And the very first time I ever met her father, ah he told me that The Godfather was one of his favorite movies of all time. And I was so nervous about him liking me. I did not have the heart to tell him that I have never seen the Godfather and I bullshitted my way through. He was like, well, what's your favorite scene? It's like I gave him like the classic like, oh, I mean, there's so many like how do you know? And I on I think like I think it was when we were at the rehearsal dinner for our wedding, I told him, I'm like, David, I have to tell you something like
00:54:57
Speaker
I've never actually seen the Godfather. And he thought it was the funniest thing. But that that is Joe, like you mentioned that there's a bunch of like ones on your list. The Godfather is on my list of like, I know they're good. i know There's plenty of people tell me that they're good and I need to watch them. I just haven't sat down and made the commitment to watch them, but I know I need to. Well, I tell you what, Dan, if you're going to and I will be honest with you, this is no shit. And I know I just said it's a complete waste of day. If you do it, if you're going to watch them, ah I would do it. The the the HBO cut because okay that even though. It's kind of like when people ask you, how do you watch the Star Wars movies? Right, right. You you can do it. You know, Godfather one, Godfather two, Godfather three and that and you'll be fine.
00:55:51
Speaker
But the way they did it for the HBO cut is so tremendous that it reignited my love for those movies because it gave you so much more than what the original versions of them did. So I know I said it's like an eight hour, you know, viewing. yeah That's going to be my next father's day. I'm going to tell everybody. I'm like, I don't want anything else. Everyone leave the house for a day. I'm going to sit down and watch Godfather. But like I said, just the people that they got cast in there, the the story, the you know how they always try to adapt books into movies and it doesn't always do well. This is one of those rare instances that they hit the notes perfectly.
00:56:47
Speaker
And like I said, I, this one, I could see people giving me flag for just because it's always on like the blockbuster lists and you know, stuff like that. But right now it's at my number four. never feel that Dan number three. All right. Um, sorry, my, five leap so I was like, who's telling me what now people are already lighting you up on Twitter. They're already lighting me up. Damn it. Um, this one I feel is going to no offense. I feel like this one might go over Joe's head, but I think it's going to land right in. mar I think it's, I think it's going to go right in Mike's wheelhouse.
00:57:31
Speaker
the Lego movie franchise.
Lego Movie Franchise Praise
00:57:34
Speaker
Lego movie one, Lego movie two, and the Lego Batman. man movie on law That opening montage alone in the Lego Batman movie. Where he just like starts listing through all the all the old Batman. Are those real? Probably worth a Google. Probably. be this This might surprise you, Dan. but I love the first Lego movie. All right. I haven't watched the other two, but I do love the first one. I, would so this, fine and so the first, and the first Lego movie came out my last year of college and I was living with, um, a group of roommates that I was like good friends with and Lego movie came out and, uh,
00:58:20
Speaker
I feel okay saying this now because it's legal in the, both the state I live in now and the state I went to school in, but we got super stoned and watched the Lego movie. And it was one of the best movie experiences of my life. And there was a time like we as a group, like on a Saturday night or something, my, my, my moon roommate Jocelyn, like she would be like, we don't have anything going on tonight. Like. can we get high and watch like the legally streamed download episode of Lego movie that you found? Hell yeah, we can. Hell yeah, we can. And we went into like, we went to Walmart at like midnight when they first released the DVD. Cause like we had to have the DVD of Lego movie. It's just like, it kind of is one of those movies and the whole, I mean, all three of them, they just came out of nowhere. Like, yeah, like,
00:59:10
Speaker
like a movie was supposed to be like what Barbie was supposed to be like a like a toy franchise movie that just comes out of nowhere and blindsides you and Lego movie did that better than like anything I feel like I can remember of just like you think you're gonna go see one thing and it just from the gecko was like, nope, like buckle in buttercup. Like you're here for two hours, you're here for an hour, 45 of all of this. And there's like, there's just no, there's no weak part to it. Like the the the every character that they bring in,
00:59:47
Speaker
does everything well all of the voice acting everything is like just nailed perfectly and they commit to the bit of like lego and the lego movie without like going overboard. It's like a very fine line. And they just they nail it. And like like Quanto said, like the Lego Batman movie, that one was like, I was like, OK, this is where they're going to like F up. And then it was like, oh, God, damn, like they did it again. like they did So, yeah, to they did it. Forget towing the line. They went into the line and popped back out. Yeah. iically Like just. Yeah.
01:00:31
Speaker
like yeah like i' leave it yeah like Like Michael, you said like they had like thread that, like thread the needle of being like too self-aware, but be like being comedic enough and, but still being heartwarming enough to like actually still even care about the movie. They just nailed it. 10 out of 10. I don't, I don't know if they're coming out with more, but like if they ended those three, that's three bangers. Yeah. Well, even the behind story of, you know, how they have your main storyline of the Lego movie, but then you have the behind it where it's the kid and the dad, right? We've all been there, but you know, sitting there playing with Legos and you're, you know, you build something and then the little kid comes over and wants to, and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm full. I'm on it. I am. And it made so much sense.
01:01:25
Speaker
Because when you first start watching it, it's just a bunch of goofiness. Right. and And goofy lines and goofy this. And then all of a sudden you see, oh, no, it's a kid that's doing this. as And it's it total sense. And it was just it was perfect. Like I said, I haven't watched the other two, but I have my DVD copy over in my pile over there somewhere because I occasionally bust it out. If you get I think agree with Mike, Lego Batman is is the better movie than Lego movie to Lego Batman is, especially if you're like in like if you have any knowledge of any like superhero lore or like that kind of, you know, backstory stuff, they they do that one really well, too. Yeah, it's almost like a spaceballs in a way go fight Batman. Yeah, best way possible. Yeah.
01:02:18
Speaker
All right, Mike, hit us with your number three.
Top Three: Alien Franchise
01:02:21
Speaker
All right, so my number three is going to tie in the the gap between Tremors and um Star Wars. And it's Alien. It's the Alien franchise. OK. And so, like I said, this is dipping into the whole, like, um it's fitting your rule, Joe, where there's more than there's three movies at minimum. But it's those first two that it makes the rest of them just doesn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter how bad some of those other ones were. you have two of the greatest directors that have ever walked this earth who took this franchise so you know you have Ridley Scott who has given the the credence of like all right star wars became a great movie you know like a new hope prove that you can do
01:03:02
Speaker
uh science fiction on the big screen and you have it make a shit ton of money and now it's given you know sci-fi is like let's give it to the hands of this visual masterpiece worker in Ridley Scott and he's gonna do truckers in space and we're gonna have them all get picked off one by one and I'm not a horror person i'm not a horror movie movie person I like to sleep at night I don't like things intruding in the dark narrows of my dream world but the The claustrophobia that heat that Ridley Scott created in that first movie is some of the best just storybook crafting and you know Ridley Scott uses all the like he has headlines on the Blade Runner newspapers kind of thing and all of the detail that he crams into Alien
01:03:52
Speaker
and once again kind of like touching on tremors where it's like these are all smart characters they're all reacting to this thing in a very realistic like yeah I would think it would be like that kind of way and stuff like literally the only part is um John Hurt sticking his head over the egg kind of thing and stuff but other than that everything else after that point in the movie is like well shit like yeah you you would have reacted that way and you would have done this and you would have done that and The big bonus of the first two Alien movies is Sigourney Weaver cemented herself in film royalty playing the character of Ellen Ripley. And um you know, like even her backstory on that is so funny how she's talking about like she thought she was going to lose the job because she thought she was allergic to the cat and the cat was a very central character to the original movie. But it turned out it was something on like her outfit or whatever. But
01:04:46
Speaker
So like, you know, the first movie is pure sci-fi horror. And then they go to the second movie and it's like, all right, James Cameron, do your take on it. And he's like, we're going military. we're going I know he's Canadian, but we're going full on America. We're going to shoot some bugs kind of thing. And you have the absolute best of, well, okay. Not the absolute best of Michael Bean, but Michael Bean up there. And he actually missed this time in a movie that once. as It doesn't just get turned into meat hamburger. Bill Pax. Game over man. Game over. RIP to Bill Paxton and you just carry for it and you take the horror elements from the original movie but you just add like the just gung-ho macho sense of the the space marines to the second one but at the heart of it it is Ellen Ripley's journey of like
01:05:40
Speaker
okay like all I want to do is be a space space coal trucker and like I'm just supposed to get coal back to earth but now what the fuck uh John hurts got turned de inside out and here we go kind of thing but and then how it goes through like her PTSD at the beginning of the second movie and then it it kind of like turns into her motherly instinct with new her and Newt as over the course of the second movie and Like I said, the other movies do exist. Really, Scott went on to wank about the meaning of life in the more recent movies. But so um those first two movies alone just totally changed what everyone thought you could do with sci-fi on a big screen in terms of like, okay, like Star Wars, like that's what you think of sci-fi. It's like this fantasy world and, you know, in a galaxy far, far away kind of thing. But it's like, oh,
01:06:36
Speaker
Alien was like, Ridley Scott was like, well, fuck it. We're out by Saturday. Now I'm going to show you what we're going to do in this world and stuff. So alien is up there on my list on number three. I can't speak on it. I mean, I know the movies, but I've never really watched them. So, and they're not even on my list. but Well, and it's like, you like Michael, you said, like it's the first movie that like used a, I mean, I'm, I'm half asking this. So maybe I'm wrong, but like to me, it feels like it was the first movies that was like, Hey, you guys like no aliens like like, you know, like aliens, like it felt like before this was like, oh, it's ah like the fifties, you know, like, like, you know, like, oh, like it's coming from outer space kind of thing. Like this is the first time I was like, ah aliens are badass and they're going to come fuck you up. but you Like yeah they will just kill you.
01:07:27
Speaker
And I forgot to tie it into tremors so some of the guys who did the effects for tremors they worked on alien and aliens. And so the tie in there is they're like, trying to figure out how to make the graboid look and they're like, Oh, like, it's not outer space it's a worm on earth and they have this funny story where they're talking about how like, they tried to do up the graboid when on the first shot. And the director was like, it doesn't look right. It looks like there's something wrong. And they're like, slime. We need alien slime. So it just to bookend how those three franchises tie into one another. They're just inspiration on inspiration on inspiration. Two movies with like badass practical effects, man. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:09
Speaker
and a time that they didn't have the technology that we do now. So that makes it and kind of tying back into the George, the George Lucas, like James Cameron's like, I don't have a big budget for this. You know, you look at aliens and you're like, that must have been Fox. And it's like Fox was like, he can have a little bit, but like, you know, like you're not really Scott. And so James Cameron being like the move you know I know he's not like the greatest person kind of thing, but just how his mind works from a filmmaking point of view, like he built so much of the practical practical effects on that movie and it stands the test of time that so much of it is like, yeah, like you don't lose your immersion in it in any of the special effects shots in that movie.
01:08:50
Speaker
Well, like I said, I can't speak on that. So I'm just going to go ahead and jump into my number three. yeah Go for it. in Indiana Jones. And there's not much you can say
Top Three: Indiana Jones
01:09:00
Speaker
outside of that. I know people have their feelings about the crystal skull. I haven't been able to watch the dial of destiny just yet. I know it's on Disney plus and that, but you've got Raiders, you've got temple, you've got crusade.
01:09:19
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And you know how they always talk about how the sequels get worse is, you know, most movies with their sequels get crusade was probably the best one out of just because of yeah the, the, the back and forth between Sean Connery and Harrison Ford. So, I mean, I, I'm a big action adventure guy, so I love that stuff. you know Indiana Jones, obviously Star Wars. um I even loved the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, even though that was the movie that made Sean Connery quit Hollywood. he um But those type of movies are just my go-to. And i again, it's another movie that if I see it on and I flip it on, I'm not doing anything until it's over.
01:10:11
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because it just I'm engrossed in it. now there's ah couple Now, I've come up with a couple of theories on Temple, and I think that whole movie was just to see how much they could gross people out.
01:10:30
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It was a real heat check of a movie. Like in general, it was like, how much can we gross them out? How much like cultural insensitivity can we get away with? And he's like, here's short round. Like, let's just put it right in your face. And the person who played Willie ended up marrying Spielberg. ah So that had to been like his test on is she going to be the one or not? As as much shit as she he put her through. ah so yeah That has to be Stockholm syndrome. There's no doubt. There's no doubt about it.
01:11:04
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Um, I did see a interview or a blurb or something where she said she didn't know how to scream before the movie. So she had to learn to scream for the movie. And that's just all you get out of temple. But that just goes to show that that series of movies are just amazing because it's a good mix. You can tell George Lucas had a hand into it. because he and and Dan and I, I know you and I have talked about this with the sequels. The the sequels of Star Wars, they tried to put too much humor in into it and they've tried to force it in there. Whereas between Star Wars and Indiana Jones and movies like that, they had a good mixture where it was it was a natural humor into it instead of a forced, well, we need you to laugh at this because we're writing it because of that.
01:12:01
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They just went out there. Plus what better story than the scene from Raiders where you've got this guy doing his sword stick and it's supposed to be a whole drawn out battle with Indiana Jones using his whip but and Eddie just pulls his gun out and shoots because he was sick for the day and didn't want to film any longer.
01:12:26
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So yes, the Indiana Jones franchise is my number three. I understand there's a lot of hate for Crystal Skull. I still enjoyed it. I get what it is. I haven't seen Dial of Destiny yet, even though I've heard that that one's kind of on on the lower scale to be also got to remember Harrison Ford's in his fucking eighties. What do you expect out of him as Indiana fucking Jones?
01:12:50
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I mean, I think I think that's why it works so well. You mentioned like the comedy stuff. It's like because it's Harrison Ford as Kobe Bryant and everyone else just like you you are working around the orbit. of Kobe or like Michael Jordan, like you're working around them. Like the, like the sequel stuff, like they tried to have, it's like, Oh, Scotty Pippin's going to be the star of this time. It's like, no, no, no. Like it needs to be Michael and Harrison Ford like is perfect for that. Cause it's like, it's like, it's just the serial like cowboy, like, you know, fifties, forties dramas and Harrison Ford is the perfect like
01:13:29
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Super here like superhero quote-unquote for for this franchise. Yeah, he he nails it It's it's such a good there. It's such a good franchise all up and down The only thing that I can say is the only way they would have been able to ever remake the movies which again I don't think is ever possible like I mentioned with is if they used the guy from the young Indiana Jones Chronicles Yeah And I know a lot of people don't like those either, but I really did. Um, and I, every once in a while when I need to watch something, I'll find it on Amazon prime or Disney plus or whatever. But the only way that you could replace Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones is if you use that guy and that guy's not getting any younger either. I think he's in his fifties. So it,
01:14:18
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If only River Phoenix had stuck around for us, he could have been the the next Indian. Wasn't he a young Indian ah in that first part of Raiders? In the first part of last, yeah. Or of Crusade, yeah. yeah um But he was also rumored to be Anakin Skywalker in the attack of the co clones. So we would have had a big fight there. But that's my number three. We're getting into our last two. So, Dan, why don't you kick it off with your second one or your number two?
Top Two: Star Wars
01:14:51
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I mean, Joe, you mentioned Anakin Skywalker. Star Wars is my number two. um And it's, you know, I'm worried what your number one is.
01:15:01
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i i think I think, I think number one, we'll see what happens in number one here. I mean, Star Wars, yeah. It means so much to me. It's so it's so much fun. Like I mentioned, like I think it's just, there is something for everybody. There's there's really no other franchise, movie, book, TV, whatever, that just is a sandbox and lets everyone be able to kind of figure out their own place in it.
01:15:40
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as much as Star Wars is. um And the movies like, you know, I i did it i did the the rewatch with all of the movies with ah Aaron Alice on watch and stuff. And like like, you go back and it's like, yeah, even the ones that are just absolutely bonkers, like Attack of the Clones, it's like, yeah, but it's still Star Wars. Like you're still getting Star Wars. like but like that's why like any of the any of like the TV shows and stuff it's like I didn't enjoy Book of Boba Fett and I really didn't like how they you know made it Mandalorian season 2.5 but
01:16:23
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It was still Star Wars. Like you were still getting to like, there's just, ah there's something about like the whole essence around it. They're like, I will watch anything. And then like, when you mentioned as movies, you, people think of just the Skywalker saga, like the nine movies, but then you throw in rogue one, which might be the arguably top two Star Wars movies ever made like they just like from a ah story and like visual like movie creation. Like it's so good. And I know it got a lot of now got a lot of shit, but solo was a hell of a lot of fun. I really enjoyed watching solo like a lot better than sequels. Yeah. that um You know, like just even even the worst movie Star Wars movie on on the on the, you know,
01:17:18
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platter there is still pretty damn good. um So I will I'm putting Star Wars here and i'm I'm interested to see how you react to what I put number one. Okay, so I'm going to do something extremely weird here. And I'm going to jump ahead and quote of Koano Star Wars is my number two. I am shocked by both of you. See, now I'm really interested in what Joe's got. I'm so confused right now. um what i Well, will be honest, if I had to, my top two would be like a 1A, 1B type thing. They're so interchangeable with them. But Star Wars, like you said, Dan, has a lot of meaning to me outside of just being a movie.
01:18:12
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I've got 500 books from the Expanded Universe over there. I've got Funko Pops of um probably 20 or so Funko Pops right up there. um You know, I've um ah invested into it, but I have a lot of personal reasons why I am invested into it. Um, Mike, you said it kind of resonated to me because you said that your dad took you to the, the, when they re-released them into theaters, my mom did the same exact thing to me. We went to the theaters for each of the re releases. We made a day of it and stuff like that. So there's a lot of that for that to me. And if, if I had my way.
01:19:00
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I would subtract the sequels out of it completely and you would have like the perfect franchise ever. Because then you can consider the prequels as your your lower tier but still tolerable movies. You have your TV shows, you have your cartoons, you have your book series, you have everything. With that said, I understand what they were trying to do two with the sequels. But Dan and I have had these conversations millions of times on this stuff. The execution for what they were trying to do with the sequels completely ruined what the sequels were meant to be. And instead of being the star the the Skywalker saga, you made it the sky the Palpatine saga because it was completely just continuation of everything Palpatine.
01:19:57
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That's a whole other conversation for a whole other day that we could probably have our own podcast on that we would be talking for the next five years on. So, but it's my number two. Again, it's more like a 1B, but it's one of my things. Again, I could lose a day just because the next time they have you know, the a marathon on TBS, I will flip it on and I will be lost because it just that's my soothingness. um Again, the reason why I haven't got through a lot of my list of movies to watch is because they keep dropping stuff. and It's like, OK, now I got to watch this one. I said this a couple of months ago to um to Emma on Twitter that
01:20:52
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I'm to the point where even though I'm enjoying it, I'm kind of hating Star Wars right now. And it's not because it's bad stuff that's coming out. It's just they keep throwing it at me. and It's like now I'm going to lose a week because I'm trying to catch up on on on my episodes. I think I finally caught up on all of Bad Batch just like last month. I haven't even been able to dig into the acolyte yet. So it just, it's crazy, but we're talking about movies here. I, I always liked attack of the clones and I always will have a special moment with revenge of the Sith because I lost like a whole day just rewatching that over and over again. And you got the originals. I mean, I know everybody's always down on return.
01:21:46
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and you know oh well Luke is just a whiny kid you get why he's a whiny kid you know he's stuck with an aunt and uncle an uncle that won't let him you know move on and branch out and shit like that i'd be whiny too just like they like they said on family guys like there's two there's two sons and no women what am i supposed to do on that
01:22:12
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now i will disagree with you a little bit mike on some of the stuff that lucas did with the reimagine there are some things he did add in there that added to the story but the way he did it sucked because of the graphics and the stuff like that. The scene with Han confronting Jabba at the Millennium Falcon, amazing. But horrible because you see the replicant of him going up and over. ah So again, I'm not gonna keep going on it because I could probably spend another three days talking and we're already at an hour and 20 some minutes for this episode. But yeah, number two is Star Wars for me.
01:22:55
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Alright, so my number before I do my number two, I realized the engineer in the group totally fucking miscounted his top five. And now I'm picking between two of my favorite actors of all time. And it's gonna go purely on which franchise has more good movies. So Fortunately, sorry Arnold, Terminator is in the honorable mention because you had, just like Alien, you had two awesome movies, but everything else has been, should have been nuked in the future. and So, but Arnold is atop the list of actors that it's like, if he's in something, I'm going to watch it and I'm going to enjoy it because
01:23:32
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Arnold the actor can do no wrong for me. So that that's the last honorable mention I have.
Top Two: Die Hard
01:23:37
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Number two is Die Hard. And Bruce, it's, I think what separates Die Hard is Bruce Willis, like, you know, he was, he wasn't, you know, it's not like he was a scrawny kid or anything like that. But you know, in the first one, he's not Arnold um Sly. He's not any of those like yoked up 80s action heroes. He looks like your dad kind of thing. Like, you know, like, yeah and so, And I always appreciated that, like, he's just the cop, he's just an everyman, and he's just doing this, and it is a Christmas movie, the original, and they even doubled down on it in the second one, like, they they they just so blatantly were like, in the second one, like, it's a fucking Christmas movie, this this sequel is also happening on Christmas, so...
01:24:26
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they they have um i forget the cop who as the car is getting told he's like yes santa for a new one or whatever something like that but i mean i don't have not much needs to be said about die hard like it's just balls to the wall action And the level of practicality that they kept in it, always I always appreciated. like Obviously, I know that John McLean going down the side of a building with a fire hose isn't the most realistic, but everything else up to that point in that movie, it's like, yeah, like he's figuring that shit out as he goes. and
01:25:03
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The part that always resonated most with me is Bruce Willis just ad libbing his talking to himself move points across the whole series, the moment where he's like, just, why didn't you stop him, John? Yeah. We're in the doctor's hole. Come down to the coast. We'll have some fun. Have a few laughs. You know, like just all those moments or even in like, um, live free or die hard when he's setting up to drive the car into the helicopter. And he's like, he's like, ah, they needed a senior detective. How hard can that be? Like, yeah like it is just that whole like, whenever any of us encounter issues in our lives where we're like, can't believe that we fucking got stuck with this load of shit. It's like, yeah, we're going to mutter shit under our breath and we're going to like,
01:25:49
Speaker
disagree and be abrasive and stuff and just like that. And then of course, on top of it, you've got the studs you've got Bruce Willis doing Bruce Willis action things and stuff, and it just Even though they tried they dipped into the mid-2000s things of trying to make Jai Courtney a thing, even that couldn't ruin the series for me. so everything i just That whole series, I will watch one, two, three, four, five. I'll watch all of them. It does not bother me which one. I will watch Bruce Willis shoot people up.
01:26:24
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Joe, Joe, I'm taking I'm I sewing this. I'm I sewing right now because Die Hard is my number one franchise. OK, so do you want to hear something? Hit me. You've never watched any of them. That's all right. i I as a kid once I remember I randomly saw like the second half of like maybe like the like last like three like I missed like the first half hour of um
01:26:57
Speaker
die hard with a vengeance on TV. And I was like, holy shit, like this is awesome. And I remember there's like a scene where they cut to Hans Gruber falling off the tower. And from the first movie, I'm like, who the hell's that? and But like, like like Mike said like the all of the diehard movies just work so well because again it's like it's like the Indiana Jones thing Bruce Willis plays this character so well and it's like you can't imagine anyone else being this character and it all revolves around him and I personally for my money diehard with a vengeance is my favorite diehard movie because it's
01:27:40
Speaker
You've got a villain that's almost on par with um with Hans Gruber and oh, why can't why am I blanking on his name? Alan Rickman. um You've got a villain that almost matches up perfectly with him. But then for like the first like the first time in any of these movies, you actually pair him up with a but like it's a buddy cop movie with Samuel Jackson, Jackson. like Zeus, like God of thunder, don't piss me off, I'll put a lightning bolt in your ass, Zeus. And then on top of that, kind of like with Star Wars, it spawns
01:28:22
Speaker
this like trend of die hard on a blank, die hard on a boat, die hard on a bus, like ah like under siege is die hard on a boat. It's speed is die hard on a bus. Harrison Ford got in on it and did die hard as the president in Air Force One. Air Force One, exactly. It's just one of those movies. like it's It's a movie, any of those movies, if I see it on I need to sit down and watch it and
01:28:54
Speaker
Like there's just no like it's. It's just the movies where like like unlike Star Wars and I like it sounds like I'm bad mouthing Star Wars, but it's like there are movie there are Star Wars movies where I won't just like if like Attack of the Clones is on like I'm not just going to sit down and watch Attack of the Clones like but like if it's but if it's Die Hard and I know like oh we're getting to this part over into this kill like we're going to get to this like it's it's very much like it just keeps it drips you all these different scenes like you have to watch the next one you have to watch the next one. um
01:29:26
Speaker
Yeah, Die Hard for me is I've got a so with the third one. So when epoxy started to become a thing, and my dad had to fix um the side mirror on one of the family cars and he got epoxy for the first time. And it was so funny because he's like, he's like, yeah it's this new glue and you you it comes in two different bottles and you have to mix them together it's like the bomb in diehard the third diehard movie but it's glue not a bomb i'm just sitting there like all right dad just tell me when i put the duct tape on it to hold it on as it sets so even forget mainstream media my own dad was referencing it for the first time he lost his mind buying epoxy glue
01:30:14
Speaker
It's like the bomb from Die Hard, but it's not bomb. It's glue. Now, see, the reasons why I never watched Die Hard was because I went the other way and I watched Lethal Weapons. So the Lethal Weapons were mine. I mean, Lethal Weapons were great. No in that. Are you ready for my number one? Go for it. Yes. yeah And I know everybody's shocked that Star Wars is not my number one, but there is actually a hint behind me at what my number one is.
Top Franchise: Ghostbusters
01:30:43
Speaker
Oh, OK. And this one, you can honestly ask anybody who knew me as a kid. I was absorbed into the Ghostbusters culture. There are actually pictures around here of me in the Ghostbusters jumpsuit with the proton pack with I had everything. I had the proton pack. I had the trap. I had the goggles. I had everything for Ghostbusters. It again is, and I kind of mentioned this with um when I did the Beverly Hills Cop is my honorable mentions. This was a complete accident of a casting that worked out. Because when you go through and see all the guys that were originally supposed to be in the movie, compared to the guys that are in the movie, you you're like, that would have never worked.
01:31:44
Speaker
that That should have never been a thing. But here we are in 2024, and we just had the fourth movie be released. And it's just the comedy. it Again, like I said, with the Star Wars and Indiana Jones and the George Lucas thing, the comedy wasn't forced. It was a smooth entry into it. and You know, it does still have a lot of the horror aspects to it because I don't care who you are You're still jumping out of your mind when the the terror dog arms are popping out of danish chair and sucking her into the kitchen and When I was a kid fucking ghostbusters 2 scared the hell living shit out of me vego popping out of that fucking painting and
01:32:36
Speaker
Hated him. I had nightmares for years because of that kind the the goo coming out of the bathtub. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah but I just I've i've always loved Ghostbusters cartoons were my thing the the movies all that and ah It's also one of the reasons why I hate Bill Murray
01:33:07
Speaker
Well, I shouldn't say because I I'm not a hate I but one of the reasons why Bill Murray made me mad is Because we should have had a true Ghostbusters 3 But He wouldn't do it because he had a falling out with Harold Ramis and it wasn't until Harold Ramis passed that we were able to start getting the Sequels we should have been having years ago With that said
01:33:39
Speaker
Afterlife is one of the best sequels I have seen in a long time. Because that is the perfect way to make a movie with somebody who has passed. And I will not lie to you, it made this fat man cry.
01:34:04
Speaker
And if you haven't seen afterlife, I suggest doing it because it is one of the best sequels to be made. And like I said, they've, you know, how Star Wars did it with like Carrie Fisher in that where, you know, they were able to cut in and all that or with, um, rogue one where Tarkin was. Yeah. They kind of involved that into afterlife, but they did it in a better way. that the effects didn't look off. It's still because, and and I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen Afterlife, but I just got to say the way they did it was perfect. Frozen Empire, great for what it was. There are some complaints that I have with the two newest sequels, but they're minor. There's not, you know, it's not like
01:34:59
Speaker
they're horrible movies. It just, there's are some things with it, but just, just all those movies and the actors in them and just everything about them is, is, that's why it's my number one. I always appreciated that Ghostbusters, you got um Dan accurate at his bass-o-matic absolute limit for a whole movie. He was at the level of how he plays the bass-o-matic sketch on SNL for a whole movie, for that first Ghostbusters movie. so Great pick, Joel. I mean, but sorry, that's why it works so well is because you've got all these SNL CTV guys that do comedy so naturally. Like you said, like yeah they can act and just the comedy comes naturally. Yeah.
01:35:45
Speaker
Well, and like I said, if you actually look at the list of people that were supposed to be in it compared to what they had in it, it's crazy. Like Louis Tolley wasn't supposed to be Rick Moranis. It was supposed to be John Candy. yeah Winston Zedmore wasn't supposed to be Ernie Hudson. It was supposed to be ah Eddie Murphy. um Venkman wasn't supposed to be Bill Murray. It was supposed to be John Belushi. ah There's one other one that I keep forgetting but there was another one that was supposed to be involved in it And I think it was Egon. I don't think Harold Ramis was supposed to play Egon I think you're right, but whoever was backed out so he was like, okay Well, I'll just step in and that's how we got Egon. So I mean it just it's amazing that this accident of a movie Turned into what it did
01:36:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's quintessential 80s, man. but Absolutely. All right. And then my number one, it's a much more recent one, but goes back to my whole love for like specific actors and shit is the John Wick series.
Admiration for John Wick Series
01:36:53
Speaker
And that was on my that was on my honorable mention list. and i think And I think what, you know, it's Keanu at his absolute best and you're like wondering the whole time. I know he wasn't like, he wasn't a spring chicken when he made the first one, but he also like, you know, but you're like watching as he does, you know, he's that's the whole thing is that most of it is practical-ish stunts for him and all.
01:37:15
Speaker
and It's just unreal how he, you know, he and Stahelski crafted this whole series together. I know it's like, you know, the bulletproof suits and all that kind of stuff, but I mean, it's just some of the most fun like gun show stuff that you see ah in a movie set. And then I think the overarching part of it that makes it so fun is like, especially the first two, I know like the timeline kind of spreads out because of how the movies play out in the the third and obviously in the fourth one. But it's just funny that the first two movies, it's like, this is like the shittiest weekend that a person's had. So like the the premise behind the first couple of movies is it's like, dog gets killed next day, I'm going to go murder everyone. And
01:38:02
Speaker
like the just the weight of the John Wick character is um it's so it's shown in um Viggo and when John Leguzamo has to tell him like yeah I hit your son because he beat up John Wick and stood and killed his dog and when Viggo turns around and all he can utter is oh like it's that scene where it's just like Like, we haven't seen John Wick do shit to that point. He's kind of driven his car around and stuff like that. And it's at that moment that, you know, the first time you're watching it, you're just pulled in and you're like, all right, Kiana's about to do something, and let's see what it is and stuff. with it And then just that whole interaction between Viggo and his son and him. The son goes like, ah, I'm going to go make it right. Viggo's like, did you just hear a fucking word I said? And like, it's a fucking pencil.
01:38:56
Speaker
That whole exchange and then it's it's another one of these movies, like obviously not to the extent of Star Wars, but the little chunk of the that assassin world that they built in that that world within the John Wick. series that world is so carefully crafted like the most outlandish thing that you kind of laugh about other than the bulletproof suits is like no one knows what a gold coin is worth but it's the whole like it's kind of like fight club where it's like if you have to ask you're not in the in crowd kind of thing and so just that that world building Keanu doing everything in those movies adding guys like Donnie Yen and stuff and you know just
01:39:40
Speaker
um Hiroyuki Sonata being in the last one too. like da They've pushed the right buttons with the kind of co-star to bring in and how to intertwine. And just the storytelling is so enjoyable in that world. Okay. So this may surprise you, but I haven't watched John Wick movies. Now, if I can catch the first one after a certain point, I may watch him, but I have this thing that I won't watch a movie. If I know something happens to a dog, ah yeah you can, you can find like the timestamp people have of like, you can start the first one after this. You don't miss anything. Yeah. After the dog, like before the dog dies, just get to that point and watch it from there. I'm with you. Yeah.
01:40:27
Speaker
But yeah, I've not watched a lot of movies because something happens to a dog and I just I won't know or any really any kind of animal, you know, I'm there's some. du I watched I watched Clifford the Big Red Dog with my son today for the first time. And halfway through that, I was like, this is the last time we're watching this movie. This dog is like going to through too many emotions. I can't. Well, there was one that my dad really likes and we were sitting there watching it and all of a sudden the dog gets shot with an arrow. And I'm like, I'm done. And I walked out the room.
01:41:00
Speaker
I think the dog survives. And I said, No, I don't care. They just check the damn dog. I'm like, I'm with you. I love the John Wick movies. And it was like it was it's so cool. Because like, I don't I don't know if there was more that came before it, like lore or like backstory. But like, I knew nothing, nothing about the John Wick movies like before I went to that first one completely blind and it was like Holy crap. This is my new favorite thing. And like the fourth one, like I went and saw it in theaters and it just became like, it became like a cult thing almost where it was like everyone that went to these movies knew it's going to just be bonkers. And so it's like, it was a movie experience of like, everyone's just like, fuck yeah. Like, like, like, like every fight scene. Yeah. That was, that was a hard one to leave off. That was a hard one to leave off. I really loved the John Wick movies.
01:41:56
Speaker
And see, I love Keanu. I will, I to this day love Bill and Ted. Keanu Reeves is the man. And the only reason he, that franchise didn't make my list is I still haven't seen the third one yet.
01:42:15
Speaker
I've heard mixed reviews about the third one. I have too. And he looks really weird because yeah I think he had the beard and mustache going on and they tried to CGI it out.
01:42:27
Speaker
But it's, it's, um, Henry Cavillish from, uh, what's the mission impossible versus, um, which one of the ah DC movies it's, it's a little bit of that. hollywood justice league yeah Yeah. Um, yeah, I love Keanu. Keanu is amazing. Even just as a human being, he's an amazing person. And, uh, but yeah, to this day, that's the whole reason anytime I hear somebody say, You know, I know the whole thing about 69 and everybody, you know, that's the whole joke. But anytime I hear somebody says 69 that I always hear it in the cat Keanu 69.
01:43:07
Speaker
Joe, I will say, I will say, though, to my product, Donnie Yen in the fourth movie, he basically plays an assassin version of his character. Yes. From row one. one ah really It's so awesome. He's he is maybe one of my favorite, like, it that like, it's like it's like the honest trailers guy's joke is like he has to play blind people in his movies because no one will believe that they can fight him if he's not blind in one of his movies well like i said if i can find a timestamp to where like okay i'll watch from this point on if i'm not lost in it and i'll yeah watch it but i do i have a strict thing about movies no no no it's how we understand that i even it could be like a star wars movie
01:43:53
Speaker
And if they have like just the only dog in the Star Wars universe, and it gets crushed by an at-at, I will no longer watch that Star Wars movie. You know, what's it called? What what was the second last Jedi? Joe was watching those crystal foxes and like, if a rock crushes one of these fuckers. I don't know if anything happens to these crystal foxes. And I didn't even think of that a Luke friggin Skywalker. I was more worried about them damn crystal foxes All right guys, I think we've went long on this one Yeah, but it seems like it will work with Dan here because Dan we can have a hell of a conversation with Dan Yeah, thank you Dan for taking out basic. Let's just call it two hours. Are you tired? My wife literally just like open the door like ten minutes go like still in here
01:44:46
Speaker
Hey, just be glad it's not a Star Wars centric
Closing and Farewell to Dan
01:44:49
Speaker
friggin podcast. Right, exactly. I mean, we might not even believe it. became that but of the original series ah We might still be here tomorrow. yeah Mike went to sleep already.
01:45:06
Speaker
But Dan Kotnick, thank you for joining us. Check out our website, ohanapackers.org. Check our merch, check our blogs, check our live streams. ah follow Follow the pod on Twitter at ohana underscore packers. um We will be putting up another another um another poll this week to go over what next week's episode will be. Who knows? Maybe Dan will be back, depending on the content. Dan will still be here. and Maybe Dan and Joe will just have been recording for the whole week at that point. Who knows? Gotta find out next week, Tuesday. But thank you. Go Pack Go and aloha.