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Episode 86 - ADHD and Creativity
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Welcome to ADHDville – the podcast where two gloriously unfiltered ADHD brains, Paul and Martin (aka your ‘co-ex mayors’), turn chaos into conversation!
This week, we’re diving into ADHD and creativity: Why our brains are idea factories (with very irregular operating hours), how rejection sensitivity can hijack a brainstorm, and why faxing yourself art counts as a hyperfocus win.
Spoiler: Creativity isn’t just ‘painting pretty pictures’ – it’s survival mode for neurospicy minds. Also featuring:
- Why Roald Dahl was secretly an ADHD icon
- The trauma of client-led brainstorms
- Our brilliant (and very unfinished) novels
Hit subscribe so you don’t miss the chaos – and drop a comment: What’s your ADHD brain’s weirdest creative hyperfocus? 🔥
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ADHD/Focus music from Martin (AKA Thinking Fish)
Theme music was written by Freddie Philips and played by Martin West. All other music by Martin West.
Please remember: This is an entertainment podcast about ADHD and does not substitute for individualized advice from qualified health professionals.
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Transcript
Introduction to ADHD and Creativity
00:00:00
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All right. so what we're doing today, Martin? Well, last week we did say that we were going to talk about a crisis, which we'll do next week. Yes. um But i so I swapped things around whim.
00:00:14
Speaker
on a whim On a whim. A whim. A whim. Cool whip. um So today we're we're going to be talking about ADHD and creativity. And be it and yeah before you kind of like go, oh, no, I'm not a creative person. I don't paint or sculpt. This is a broader sense of of of create creativity because you can be a a a creative thinker. You can be a creative problem solver.
00:00:45
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Dancer. Yeah. Writer. You can be a creative accountant. You can be a creative cook. You can be a creative problem solver at work.
00:01:02
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Yeah, there's a lot. this's this slope It tends to be like the to give create, they tend to like pin creative people into a kind of a narrow pigeon hole.
00:01:14
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But actually it's, it's way wider. It's a big freaking pigeon hole. It is. it's It's a big pigeon hole. Yeah, it's it's the it's a hole for the size of a massive prehistoric sized pigeon.
00:01:30
Speaker
Yeah. If you can imagine, like an emu sized pigeon Pigeonosaurus. Pigeonosaurus. Oh, yeah, lovely. I'm liking that. ah
Humor and Engagement
00:01:40
Speaker
You know what? If we had fans that did fan art, I would say I'd like to see that, a Pigeonosaurus.
00:01:48
Speaker
um ah Anyway, so let's go to the place where the distractions are landmarks and the detours are on the main roads. Welcome to ADHDville.
00:02:00
Speaker
I suppose we should introduce ourselves at this point.
00:02:22
Speaker
ah yeah suppose we should introduce ourselves at this point Yes, do that. Hello, my name is Mel Streep, and when I'm not collecting Oscars to decorate my potting shed, I like to do impersonations of Paul Thompson doing a podcast about ADHD.
00:02:39
Speaker
Wow. And I'm George Clooney and I am an an actor that is currently portraying um the ADHDer known as Martin West, who was diagnosed with the combined ADHD, Poopoo Platter, in 2013.
00:02:56
Speaker
twenty thirteen there yes so that's that's like the epitome george george the epitome of um of um method acting because you'd like you're like the spitting image of of martin west right now before my very eyes i know right yeah yeah no i i've me george clooney with the magic of hollywood makeup and has now become more attractive and become martyred.
00:03:30
Speaker
I know. That's miraculous. Okay. So... We start off, as always, here at the town... Not at the town hall.
00:03:40
Speaker
Because but we got kicked out of the town hall. we we We start off, as always, at the King's Agitated Head pub in ADHDville at the table at the back where we...
00:03:53
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the ex-mayors of ADHD will take care of business. Yes, we do. And I would like to say that if if you haven't already hit that subscribe button or the like button or something, or there's a button,
00:04:08
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ah helps press it. know the the You know, the the lords of the um algorithms, they love that kind of nonsense. They do. They do. its All right. So let's go and talk about ADHD and
Exploring Creativity
00:04:25
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creativity. But where shall we go?
00:04:28
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um we i think we're going downtown, Martin. We are, because that's where all the all the creative people, that's a great idea, because that's where all the creative people hang out.
00:04:41
Speaker
They're always in the downtown area. Yeah. So let's jump in the tractor and head down, down.
00:04:52
Speaker
Yes. Budge up, budge up. Indicator on. Light, mirror, pull out. It's having gators. Hello.
00:05:10
Speaker
Oh, all right. All right. So let's talk about creativity. Creativity. Yes. Let's do that. Let's do that. You know what? I do want to kind of... Okay, so the...
00:05:23
Speaker
i be okay so ah the at the fundamental level, I think yeah creativity is just, is just finding one thing and then some finding something else.
00:05:40
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And then, and then you just, and then you can mix them up and then create a new thing. So, yeah. So in a very, I mean, like,
00:05:53
Speaker
You know, like, it's just like, oh, man, I feel like I should know what creativity is because that's what I do. But yet I've found myself slightly floundering its real broad sense. Well, I think because probably creativity is not that easy to define.
00:06:12
Speaker
So it's not, you know, it doesn't have like clear borders. I do know that, you know, like my girlfriend, she will she say that she's not a creative person. and And I've always told that she is because she she dresses very creatively.
00:06:27
Speaker
She's creative minded. it doesn't necessarily what you do, but it's your way of being is creative. Then whatever you happen to do with that way of being is, ah you know, is is another thing.
00:06:42
Speaker
Right. So, you know, because it's spirited, you know, your spirit, your, your like, your soul is creative.
ADHD's Unique Creative Edge
00:06:49
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Soul and spirit creative. then You know, if that evolves into sculpting or whether it involves in needlework or knitting jumpers or, or, you know, creative in the kitchen or a chef, so be it, wherever it goes, you know?
00:07:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No limitless. Right, because ah you know because our ADHD brains are wired differently, and that generally means that that that we have to problem-solve in ah a different way because our yeah i neurotypical brain will problem solve one way, but but our brains, like, face they say they seem to be a lot more flexible and comfortable with kind of going outside of the...
00:07:45
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Oh, totally.
00:07:51
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so i'll i yeah our brains had these kind of like these kind of this crazy ability to kind of think in yeah in a creative way.
00:08:05
Speaker
It's nuts, really. I mean, I think generally a find I find, don't know, if when I find, even if ah ah even if I've just met them, but I've just bumped into and I've started chatting with someone who I instinctively think is newde neurodiverse, the conversation is almost automatically um spontaneous and like,
00:08:26
Speaker
you know, a kind of a bit crazy and, uh, borderless and, um, you know, agile, you know what mean?
00:08:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah. No. sorry I think as you say, it's almost like, it's it's almost, it's almost like, um um you know, there's a logic to it, you know, because we, we had to be agile because we're always trying to, we're trying to work, find our way through a neurotypical world.
00:09:00
Speaker
And so it's almost like a logic says that we had to be creative in our thinking. Right. You know what? That's absolutely spot on.
00:09:11
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And I was just thinking as as you were saying that that, that there is a really nice community part to it. And I think because ADHD or neurodivergent people tend to gravitate to each towards each each other. So your friends tend to be that way. And if your friends are creative too,
00:09:34
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yeah as As you say, there's that kind of, to there's that dialogue where you can start bouncing i eye ideas around in a much more kind of yeah in ah in a very free way.
00:09:46
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and um And you can end up with some amazing things happen out of a little, yeah out of just yet two people. Mm-hmm. It's my personal, one of my personal joys, top three, if not top one of my personal, um one of the things i I get most of my joy and stimulation from is ah is creative chat, creative discussions, usually with someone who's neurodiverse. Yeah.
00:10:18
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Yeah, it is lovely shely i thought oh yeah like, i this I have this this thought, i and goes oh yeah, I like that. How about if we do this? Oh yeah, I like that. How about if we add this? Oh yeah, I like that. It just gets better and better and bigger bigger and bigger.
00:10:32
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Yeah. Oh, it's amazing. Exactly. Which actually is ah is actually um what you're just describing there is is like the the kind of um the kind of core of what it means to do a ah really good brainstorming session, that you are you ah just had a natural – people that are really good at brainstorming are just really good at being spontaneous and taking a discussion in whichever direction comes to mind, you know.
00:11:04
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Right.
Challenges in Collaborative Creativity
00:11:05
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And it's also because I've been in so many brainstorms over the years that actually sometimes being neurodiverse doesn't help because, you know, like the true the traditional brainstorm, but I've been in a lot where you have where you're all in ah in a meeting room,
00:11:32
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There's about, don't know, eight or ten of you or whatever, and there's someone at the front with bits of paper and a marker and everyone's like shouting ideas out. Yeah. and And I find those like the worst way to brainstorm because it's like, you know, because you have to kind of shout.
00:11:51
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yeah If you shout out and and and an idea and that idea just falls on its ass, Then you kind like film. Jesus, that's not bad. um I'm going to shut up now.
00:12:03
Speaker
You know what mean? I'm just going to shut up and sit quiet. see That's when the kind of rejection sensitivity comes in, right? Right. She's like, oh, fuck, I think I've got a really good idea in my brain, but it's really out there. And I don't know if I want to put my head above the parapet.
00:12:20
Speaker
And then you're like, fuck it. I'm going to say it. And then you say it and it's like, Oh, wow. And it's usually often, you know, it's, it's a winner, you know,
00:12:32
Speaker
Oh, I've said some terrible, terrible, bad, terrible ideas. For example, come on. No, I can't. Oh, come on. so No, because it's so bad to taste.
00:12:47
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Oh, okay. It's the kind of comment where I kind of go, oh, it's like this. And then everyone turns around and kind of looks at you and goes, what the fuck?
00:12:59
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I go. Right. Psss.
00:13:03
Speaker
Yeah. Is that the time? I must be going. and Jesus Christ. Yeah. Something like, you know, and you and you think of, you know, obviously I've done a lot of these in ad agencies. So you think of ad agencies as being this kind of hotbed of,
00:13:20
Speaker
creative people all all in a room but it's just like a it's actually it's a horrible place I'm glad you said that because I've actually found that very often um as you say you know you think oh ad agency or you know design agency marketing consultant you think you need be a hotbed of sponsorship actually there's a whole hell of a lot of egos
00:13:51
Speaker
And you can be sure that when it comes to egos are out and there's nothing worse. The biggest enemy of brainstorming is our egos.
00:14:04
Speaker
And I've been in a situation like like the boss was, yeah. Yeah. I remember once there was a boss who was like leading the brainstorming.
00:14:16
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Right. It's generally like the loudest person in the room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tends to get get their ideas up. Yeah. But anyway, so that's why I like working with twos and threes, like a little tiny group. Right.
00:14:32
Speaker
People can come up with some really great ideas. Yeah, yeah. yeah yeah I generally found when the boss is involved in the brainstorm, it's a nightmare because it everyone's thinking about, ooh, I want to say this, but I don't want to, you know, stamp all over her ego or his ego.
00:14:52
Speaker
So generally a lot when the boss is involved, you know, that everyone's like. Worse than that, Paul. Yeah. Worse than that is when the client um but is in thep is in the No, that's, yeah. Oh,
00:15:09
Speaker
I've never done a brainstorm with a client, don't think. Oh, fucking hell, they're the worst. That sounds like a nightmare. They're the worst. Yeah, but that doesn't work. Oh, that it's it appalling.
00:15:20
Speaker
It's like the worst for me when but with a client is on a photo shoot. That's a bad one. Oh, they're always – the client has always been on every photo shoot.
00:15:33
Speaker
And you know what? You can always tell when the photo shoot's going really well – when the client is right at the back of the room and they're on their laptop doing emails and they're not even like, they're not even part heart participating because like, yes, that's great because you're obviously, Martin, you're doing good and they feel happy and comfortable.
00:15:59
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They're just back there.
Hyperfocus and Observation in Creativity
00:16:02
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yay and I want to get back to like, ADHD, hyper focus, that was for the catalyst, if you like, of being a creative person.
00:16:17
Speaker
Like as far back as I can remember, I would get out a piece of paper and I would draw... trains and I would draw you know stuff boats or whatever and that was like and then my entire world I would just be absorbed in that yeah drawing thing and I was like oh this is a nice space I like this space yeah of when you're just for me it was often a meditative meditative state it's like I could like zone out when I do do the drawing definitely
00:16:56
Speaker
But I've got something before that, before that, that phase, so I've got something here about, I've written something here about hypervigilance and general observatory skills.
00:17:08
Speaker
Because I think I was hypervigilant, it also, what it did, you know, is good and bad size of being hypervigilant because I was a bit anxious all the time. But it also made me hyperobservant.
00:17:21
Speaker
So feel like I see things, right? I saw things, I observed them, and and and I, you know, ah kept them in my in my head. in my head And so when it comes to drawing something, I can draw, you know, a person or a car or a train or whatever it is because I've observed it, you know, almost obsessively.
00:17:47
Speaker
You know what? Consciously or not. i've I've had this thought which has been around my head for the last... 40 years, which is that you and I, Paul,
00:18:00
Speaker
when we went When we went to art college and we were drawing stuff and then you know when we were doing our jobs, our everyday jobs, when we became designers, if someone asked you to draw a tap, for example, yeah um you would have to draw it out of a memory, right? because Yes.
00:18:25
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. Because there was no internet anymore. to go and look and see what a tap looked like. So right you would have to look at, you would so you you went around the world looking a lot because.
00:18:40
Speaker
Sure. I remember my first task as a designer, butish my very first day as a designer, and I had the client looking over my shoulder.
00:18:51
Speaker
I was asked to do a drawing of ah of ah a man on a roof repairing some tiles with magic markers. wow right yeah and it's like oh and i just did it i'd love to see that drawing now though don't know when i it did it really bad it's gonna be terrible you'd be like oh my god this is what's that that's worse ah know I know.
00:19:25
Speaker
I occasionally come across an old piece of art and I'm like, oh my good God. Yeah. You know, but hey, you know what? is so It's just reminded me of my first piece of creative work that I did when I left art college and I was in the industry.
00:19:42
Speaker
Right. I had to do a clothes label, a design for some fashion brand, right? And um I'd done this kind of fairly neat little piece of artwork. It was tiny. It was about like an inch by but about an inch square kind of thing.
00:20:03
Speaker
And the boss had just got this new fandangled fax machine installed. <unk> And i was like, what's a fax machine? And he said, you can send images over the telephone.
00:20:24
Speaker
And I was like, no, that's insane. that That is insane. and And he said, yeah, look. And then he just kind of like got this piece of paper and then he fed it through the fax machine.
00:20:38
Speaker
And then what came out the fax machine was like a digitized file. Yeah. Like eight bit version of it. And I went, oh, yeah, I can do that. So then I i got my little fashion label and then I faxed it to myself.
00:20:54
Speaker
Nice. This kind of blocky, pixely artwork back. And I went, yes, this is amazing. That sounds brilliant.
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah, the the thought process was good, but I'm sure that the actual end end result, if I looked at it now, we' were like, God, this is a fucking dog's dinner. Right.
00:21:18
Speaker
But I liked the the the thinking of it. I liked the creative thought. Well, there was a thing. Well, let's not go too long in discussion about where the state of plays it now state of play now, but it's almost too easy now to create good computers and stuff.
Evolving Creative Journeys
00:21:39
Speaker
You know, you it was much more reliant on, you know,
00:21:45
Speaker
then Then again, it's yes, it's not because there was less. It was easier. It's easier now. But then so then it is you're not blocked by, oh, God, I've got this idea, but how am I going to do it?
00:21:58
Speaker
You don't have that anymore. You can pretty much do anything. Whereas when we started out, it's like, oh, I've got this idea, but holy, holy moly. How am I going actually do that?
00:22:09
Speaker
you know, yeah other than faxing it to myself.
00:22:15
Speaker
and this Nice though. Okay. This is other other thought, which is like, and and I see it on TikTok as well, but a lot, which is like someone will pick up a, you know, they'll have a new creative bee in their bonnet and they'll want to kind of do art or knit or, and some new creative hobby.
00:22:38
Speaker
Yeah. And then they'll, then they'll kind of like get into it for a while and then they'll do so creative stuff and then they'll kind of almost kind of burn out or stop.
00:22:50
Speaker
Yeah. Lose into interest interest and then they'll go, oh no, I'm like, ah oh, I've, you know, spent the last two months doing this creative thing and now I seem to have dropped it.
00:23:03
Speaker
Yeah. um And then the cycle continues with something else like, oh, you know, they'll start up another yeah creative pursuit. but some For some people, the learn you know, the final product isn't necessarily the biggest motivation.
00:23:18
Speaker
It's the doing for some people is is enough, which is fine, you know. Yes. Like creative gardening. We didn't mention that at the beginning, but Gardening.
00:23:31
Speaker
I love the idea of creative gardening. I'm kind of quite quite ah quite keen on that. All right. Yeah, so I think like, so I personally, I don't give myself a hard time if a I do some drawings and stuff and then I just drop that and then it goes quiet for a bit and then I start to do some writing or something. might do that for a bit and then that will drop and then I might do something else and then I might come back around to doing some drawing at some other point.
00:24:06
Speaker
So I don't mind fact the fact that I just almost like hop from one creative lily pad to another creative lily pad. and Yeah, yeah, yeah. I found, I'm not sure about you, but since I got diagnosed with ADHD...
00:24:25
Speaker
um and that the the um consequent unmasking um since then, my creative juices are just flying.
00:24:38
Speaker
yeah'd like Now that like I don't feel like I have to limit myself or suppress myself, my authentic pull, that you know is showing up um artistically, creatively, much more than it ever did in my life.
00:24:53
Speaker
yeah my life It's really, really showing up a lot, and really enjoying my creative side more than I ever did before. is it Is it because, well, part of it, i I tend to think is like, oh, I'm ADHD and I have a creative brain and therefore yeah i'm ah i I allow myself it's exactly that I'm an authentic creative person. Therefore, yeah I can just ah can just go and do my own thing.
00:25:24
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I just think, and you know, the gloves are off. he mad Yeah. know, the shackles, the gloves are off. It's like, fuck it. Right. I'm going to do that. You know, i think I mentioned to you last week, i've I've decided I'm going to write a book, a novel, which I'd never thought of before.
00:25:40
Speaker
I was going to bring that up. and um Oh, were you? Okay. Because, yeah you know, in ah in in a true we are twins kind of way, I have, i have ah for the last year, i have been not writing a book, but building a book out, you know, like doing web research and building plot. Okay. And building characters and and just building this thing. And then, so so for the last year, I've been been working towards
00:26:14
Speaker
right Okay. Doing a book. Okay. Yeah. i'm doing so I'm doing the same thing at the moment. I'm not committing myself to writing a book, but I am building it up, you know, researching where I need to.
00:26:30
Speaker
um And, um you know, like being playful with it. It's like, oh, yeah. Could it start here? Could it start there? There's a really good one, someone said, about creative writing, actually.
00:26:43
Speaker
Hilary Mantle, that wrote the um Wolf Hall and the other, you know, the Tudor historical novel books, she said um she did a masterclass thing on on the internet ah about creative writing, and she said, what if, for example,
00:27:00
Speaker
You started the little red riding herd story with the words, it was dark inside the wolf's mouth.
00:27:10
Speaker
oh that's good so at the moment right I'm thinking about that it's like how can you be playful and creative with the structure does it have to start here does it have to end there where the how is the middle do I have to have a plan you know douglasckless ah Douglas Adams who wrote sir as you know Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy he said he never had a plan when he started writing a book so I thought oh that's cool you know Yes.
00:27:41
Speaker
There are apparently two ways that you can write. One is where you have no idea and you are literally just, or you have some vague idea, you know, like there's some, you're kind of,
00:27:55
Speaker
working towards something that you know is going to happen. But yeah, but it's, the but it's an, it's an adventure to yourself as you're writing it or totally.
00:28:07
Speaker
Yeah. Or you, you plan absolutely everything out. Like it's all just kind of, it's just very planned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've, well, I've, I've basically come where I am at the moment with it. I don't want to tell the world about what the, what it's about.
00:28:27
Speaker
Um, because I've started far too many projects and not finished them. So I'm not, I don't want to like, you know, spout it out the idea too much, but I have what used to be the ending is now the start.
00:28:42
Speaker
I've got that far. Yeah. All right. Which completely flips, literally flips it. But it also makes you think about it differently, the the whole story.
00:28:53
Speaker
Right. I wonder if it started where you thought it ended. so Oh, that's interesting. And anything, what I've come to realize at the moment, anything that stimulates it, if I think if I can write the first paragraph, I'm away.
00:29:07
Speaker
I'll be fine with the rest of it. it's like, oh, it actually starts where I thought it ended. oh and that's fine for me, you know? Yeah, no, mine i've I have my start, I have my middle. I've got all the main plot points along the way.
00:29:26
Speaker
I've got most of the main characters. um I even just how how ah know how it ends. ah by i' i've just okay um I'm just like fleshing little interesting bits out, playing with it in my head. But it's it's it's weird because because I don't know about you, Paul, but...
00:29:47
Speaker
ah The thought of writing a book has always been like, what, why? ah That seems like such um a mountain to climb. Yeah. And why would anyone do it?
00:29:59
Speaker
And then yeah this thought just sat in my head like and it was just kept growing. I was like, God, this is a book, isn't it? Oh, damn it. Like, do I really want to write this book? but But I just can't help but keep thinking about it.
00:30:15
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's always an acid test for me. If I find myself, keep i keep thinking about it, it's ah it's a goer. It's got legs. And i should should go for it because so many ideas, you know, pop up and die.
00:30:30
Speaker
But generally, if they survive three weeks, it's a runner. All right. Mine's been about a year, easily. Okay. Actually, but you know what? the yeah div yeah The first genesis of the story was...
00:30:46
Speaker
about five years ago. So the first thought of like, oh, a book, oh, it could be about this. I like this. That was five years ago. And then I've kind of been kicking around my brain for that long.
00:31:03
Speaker
Wow. Have you started writing?
00:31:07
Speaker
I did write the first two pages and then I realized that I'd not done enough thinking. Okay. That, that, that I was, it sounds like you should just write it too early.
00:31:25
Speaker
Yeah, no, I, there's, Put yourself into a remote hotel.
00:31:32
Speaker
know. I should just, like all those films, I just have to kind of go to an island somewhere so can concentrate on yeah writing a book and then fall in love with ah someone else.
00:31:45
Speaker
no i've I wrote last week the first sentence of my book. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:55
Speaker
which I quite like, actually. oh Yeah, so far. I can tell you that the first sentence of my book is about the barnacles. Oh, really?
00:32:06
Speaker
Yes. Barnacles is the first little thing, is the first introduction Okay. is Is how it starts with barnacles. I can tell you the first word of mine. All right. 150 euros. a price. 150 euros.
00:32:28
Speaker
It's a price. Yeah. Yeah. price yeah
Early Influences and Creative Origins
00:32:35
Speaker
Okay. Well, that actually leads me on a nice little segue to actually. Yes.
00:32:40
Speaker
I was trying to think my first ever, what, what, what were the first kind of thing or person or writer that actually really started to like um feed my imagination when I was a kid And I was thinking about it and I think it was, there was probably stuff before it, but the first one that comes to mind was when I was about nine years old and, um, the world of Roald Dahl books.
00:33:13
Speaker
Oh yeah. Malcolm's Marvel's medicine and you know, all that kind of thing. I was completely, it blew my mind. It opened up this world of that. It kind of like sparked my imagination. thought, Oh wow. That's an interesting kind of shiny new toy to play with him in my mind.
00:33:37
Speaker
and your mind stories, nice, nice little interesting imaginative stories. Yeah, because he he was like Roald Dahl. He was mental. He just like, he blew apart so many, you know, I i grew up basically in kind of suburban South England, you know, and a lot of, you know, the kind of mediocrity and kind of boredom that is quite famous for, you know, those kind of environments.
00:34:07
Speaker
And then Roald Dahl appeared in My Little World. It's like, holy crap. You know, he just breaks all the rules, you know. Right. Yes. It's like this one, George's Marvelous Meslin, he knocked off his grandmother and she had a mouth like a dog's bottom.
00:34:26
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Oh, yes. Come on. That's what want to hear. Yeah, that's what it's about. Because she was nasty. So he knocked he tried ah finally you try to invent a ah poison to knock her off.
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Wow, that's crazy. Oh, wow. Just to kind of bring it bring it back to ADHD, don't know about you, but at school I found that because I was because i could draw, and I used to draw the robots and science fiction and stuff, that um I was picked on less So I was a little weird kid with ADHD, but um
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one but you know but I got respect for what I i did and I didn't get picked on. So it was like ah it was like a not only was it a nice way to kind of hyper-focus on something and escape the world, but the rest of the world seemed to value what i did. so so I got this kind of like this...
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this two two punch sort of um yeah thing which we we which meant that oh i could see i get value from it everyone around me can see value in it and i get treated better i'm just gonna keep doing this yeah yeah yeah I had that, but not with art. It was, i um, with me, it was, um, just making people laugh like the classic, you know, defense mechanism, you know, don't, you know, don't, don't punch me. I'll like make you laugh instead. You know, if you don't punch me, I might make you laugh. It might be better. Right. You know, that kind of right sit situation that could be better.
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And, um, ah For me, art was, I was lucky because I had an art teacher that said i actually had a talent. It was like, oh, that's great. And I was away, you know, that's all you need. It's like, oh, you've got a talent pool.
00:36:31
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Oh, fantastic. Because some people don't get, their creativity isn't recognized, you know, because there's not in that particular school in that particular year um ah that they were scored. They don't have, the teacher was actually sensitive enough.
00:36:48
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or human enough to say, actually, oh, do you know you're quite creative and you you should actually pursue that a bit? That doesn't always happen, you know.
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and especially like, as we said right at the top of this, yeah, the idea of whether you're creative person or not just seems to sit in whether you can draw and paint.
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or not yeah and it's really narrow isn't it when really it's you know yeah and that's why you end up with so many people going i don't have a creative bone in my body but yeah they can go into the kitchen and look at a bunch of stuff that they've got in their shelves and go well if i combine this with this and make a sauce out of that and then i'll just cook this up and then i'll and then i'll have a a a a meal you're like yeah that's just that's just creativity right there just making something out of my nothing yeah at school I did with my Italian teenagers I did a class once where we did I got them to present a story based on it was it was called an ode to the letter K
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because the K doesn't exist in the Italian alphabet, I thought, oh, let's celebrate the word K, the letter K. And so they they were brilliant. And like writing some really cool stuff about the letter K, you know, koalas and kayaks and stuff.
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It was brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. And that could, for so I don't know if if any of them will take that on, it will go any further, but you know, that might be, you know, the only impetus they needed to to actually think, oh, I might be good at creative writing.
00:38:42
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That's crazy. so There's no K in the Italian alphabet. No. That's nuts. No. Yeah. I never thought about that. So that's why i did I thought, oh, let's have an ode the letter K.
00:38:58
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And ah it was a lot of fun. ah lot of fun. Nice. Nice. Have you got any else that that that you want to add to this before we jump back in the track tour? No, I think that's great.
00:39:14
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Oh, well, just reference. We're just talking about then, you know, me using a sense of mean oh who i just reference we're just talking about then you know me using sense of humor which is a creative output.
00:39:30
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Absolutely. You know, comedy, um um especially UK. Anyway, British british comedy scene, but in America as well and, you know, everywhere.
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But obviously I'm shouting, I defend the corner for British humour because I love it so much. But um we talked just to so just ah to sort of remind you, episode 60, go back into our into our other
Engagement and Humor in ADHD Context
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episodes. You go back to but it so episode 60, there's a whole episode about her sense of humor and how it relates to how it helps the ADHD mind.
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All right. Yes. Yeah. All right. Well, let's let's just jump back into the tractor and let's go back to the ah no to the desk go to the post we post post office.
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Let's get the post office and we'll open up the mail. Let's get back in the tractor.
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That's
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are it.
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I do like how it starts first time. Every time. Every time. It's very reliable. Every bloody time. Okay. So your feedback is vital to us. We might read out your feedback on a future podcast.
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Like this one. exactly um I think we got something, the postcard from from someone. From ali Alexandra, the the the official ADHD town crier.
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um Slash mascot.
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um So last week we you you were talking a bit about Scottish, and we had a bit of a Scottish quiz. Yes. And you talked about tartan.
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Yes. And in in in her lovely comment in um on on YouTube's, in amongst all of that good stuff, ah is um she says, I'm a huge fan of Frasier of Glovett clan.
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What's that? Have you ever heard of that? Frasier of Glovett? Right, which is the color it's the um it's the clan in um out Outlander.
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Is that the film? Okay. There could be only one. Okay. You know that that film? Yeah. Outlander. So that's where that's that's from.
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um And she also says, a great catch catching up, guys. Looking forward to the next one. So this is the next one. This is the next one. And this is what we did.
00:42:32
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This is what we did. This is our output. This is the output for our Wednesday. This is output. um Yeah. This is the what the expression that I hate at the moment.
00:42:45
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This is the, what's it called? Content creators. What does that even mean? Content creators.
00:42:56
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We create content. Create content. but the So like... Content. Is that all you can say? Content creator. Yeah. oh Anyway.
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This is a piece of content. yeah um All right. So next week, we we will be talking about ADHD and handling conflict. um Yes. But...
00:43:21
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But yeah. We don't mean wars. Well, it could be.
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Right.
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